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I'll just leave this here guys

>>>/adv/17390965

The secrets are all out guys. Spread the word.

Anyone having feelings for that special someone, just look out for these signs.

>feminist rekt thread begins here.

Post your thoughts on what these landwhales are talking about
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Did you know that the MRA tried to boycott Mad Max Fury Road on the grounds it was feminist propaganda?
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>>696370190
wat
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>>696370190
Eh, didnt know that. I just boycott Hollywood and mainstream media. That includes Facebook and youtube.
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wtf
Sure, most violent crimes might be committed by men, but most men do not commit violent crime, so it's more sexist to think that.
Now replace men with non-whites and sexist with racist, and checkmate, cucks
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Yeah. They want us to take their complaints seriously, but they pull that cringey shit.
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it's obvious to anyone with the correct amount of chromosomes that feminism really needs to get its shit together and start caring about logic because honestly the amount of retardation polluting the movement is a poison to what i believe started out as an honest and good cause
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>>696370804
Shiny and chrome!
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>>696369734
>caring what landwhales have to say
gtfo fgt pls
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Daily reminder that if you spend more than 1 second a day thinking about feminism, anti-white racism etc. then you are a fucking professional victim CUCK.
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The hypocrisy is more annoying than the politics itself. I wouldn't be so bothered by feminism if it were internally consistent.
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Why did you guys protest Mad Max? Stop shitposting and address that.
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>>696371065
Do you have any proof that the same people were making both claims?
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>>696371555
You know he doesn't.
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>>696371555
It's the same source. It may not be the exact same people but it's clearly from the same political bent.
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>>696371065
I agree, i belive in fairness above all else. if it were fair, equal and reasonable then 3rd wave feminism would be tollerable.

>>696371555
different people can make the claims but one entity made the claims as the different people are under the same banner
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>>696371065
women's eyes are always bigger than their stomachs

haven't you guys ever been on a date before?
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>>696372048
You've never been out with a fat girl.

"I'll have the grilled chicken salad."
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>>696369734
anybody know where this pic is from? I've seen it as the face of anti-sjw but I've never found the source.
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>>696372602
>4chan
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>>696370536
Why, what do you watch then
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>>696369734
actually whites commit ~54-56% of all violent crimes according to the BJS. Go fuck yourself you racist piece of shit, OP.
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>>696373473
webm's on an indonesian basket-weaving forum
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>>696373473
Liveleak

I spend most of my time outdoors building things, kayaking, rock climbing, hunting, or stay inside reading.
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*tip*
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>>696373988
You got me.

The only group I discriminate against are the sjws.
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>>696374629
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Seriously? Fury Road?
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>>696373988
Pls
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>>696376698
I gotchu, fam: http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=tp&tid=70
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>>696376698
oh yeah, I did cite my source (the Bureau of Justice Statistics) the first time, but just because you asked so nicely:
>>696376927
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>>696377046
>>696373988
Well considering whites make up 64% of the US population, we commit less crimes proportionally. BUT I'M NO SCIENTIST
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Feminism means equality for both genders. How is that undesirable?

Flounder off or post better content, silly cunt.
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>>696376292
Just learned there are apparently no white people in all of Russia
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>>696377046
>cites bjs
>no where on any single one of the links provided does it map offenders by race
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>>696377730
If feminism is for both genders, why do they focus primarily on the female gender?
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>>696376204
this one is so truth, same story in my country. Two team male and female, after less than 2 weeks the production has decided to mix the two team, why? Because female team was so under equiped, almost no food and no water; lose every game due to less health and physical condition. After the "union" same shit again, men at work female on the beach taking sunbath. And guest what a woman won the game in the end. god sake and she was sooooo proud
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>>696377840
Yes there are slavs and others (native mongolians, eskimos, etc)
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>>696373988
Oh no, he got one specific number wrong so his entire argument must be invalid. Darn, he was doing so well too
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>>696376292
When did Russia become non white?
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>>696377730
Once you're not underage, you will learn that the majority of feminists aren't trying to acquire that all, and merely want superiority and special privilege.

Egalitarianism is true equality for both genders.
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>>696377046
I even went as far as typing "Offenders by race" into the site search bar.
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>>696377967
rekt
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>>696369734
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>>696377414
whites make up about 62% of the population you dunce, at least read the source before you make a buffoon of yourself.

(and once you adjust for socio-economic status most differences between races disappears)
>BUT I'M NO SCIENTIST


>>696377967
>I don't know how to read
I STILL gotchu, fam, page 40, I think: http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cpp05.pdf
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>>696373988
Whites also get killed by cops more, guess what fucker there's a lot of us.
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>>696378221
the black ones represent minorities, not just niggers
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>>696378760
It's easy to spot tumblrites by the way they type
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>>696376698
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>>696378760
>2002

Keep trying
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>>696378772
Actually all of the figures represent a local majority or the largest minority. The white figure represents white people and the black figure represents non-white people.
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>>696377730
>>696377990
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>>696379118
That's a pretty big or you misinformationist twat
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>>696378763
no, blacks actually are like 3.5 times MORE likely to be the victims of police violence, proportionally.

see >>696378760 (I was wrong, though, it's like page 8 or 9, not 40, it's a 14 page thing)


>>696379050
>I STILL can't read
>2005
FTFY
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>>696369734
implying sjw's opinions are worth anything in either case.
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>>696379225
Proportionally yes, but as far as numbers go no. If you read my whole post you'd see the part where I said "theres a lot of us".
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>>696379225
>contacts with the police
>implying contacts = percentage of crime committed

Still not trying hard enough
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>>696379225
>11 years ago
>trying to claim it's relevant
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>>696379225
Also
>traffic stops

When did traffic stops become raping murdering or robbing people???
Try harder pls
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>>696377730
True. But remember that 3rd wave feminists are the same people who claim to fight for the rights of women while wanting to import people who practice one of the most misogynistic cultures there is.

Feminism has gone to shit. I would have supported the first wave feminists had I been alive at the time and some of the second wave feminists were good while some were like the ones you see today. But third wave feminism is a big mess of sexism, contradictions, ignorance and delusion.
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>>696377730
What rights do men have that women don't?
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>>696379711
Stats remain largely unchanged, and 11 years isn't that long ago.
>trying to claim 11 years ago is irrelevant
kek

>>696379402
>>696379573
>implying that it's meaningful to look at the situation non-proportionally
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>>696380078
I'm sure if any old statistics didn't match your Tumblr agenda you'd throw them out the window
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>>696380025
actually, counter-intuitively, women have a right that men don't and that causes a lot of the disparity: maternity leave.

On average, women make about 3-4 months less salary than a comparable man over the course of their careers. Average maternity leave is like 3 months.

Give men paternity leave and those kind of differences tend to disappear (see France, Sweden, Denmark, Italy, among others)
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>>696380078
Show us modern stats then to prove they're unchanged. And if that was true you wouldn't have to purposely dig up old ones.
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>>696380025

right to a higher amount of combat deaths
right to a higher amount of Industrial deaths and accidents
right to a high amount of suicides
right to a higher amount of homicides
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>>696380633
/thread
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itt man babies: feminists are evil, I care what they say about me and let me be a racist bigot to please.
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>>696380409
>ad hominem

whoo boy, don't tire yourself out, there, anon.


>>696380532
those BJS stats are the most relevant freely available publications. If you want more modern stuff it's almost always behind a paywall, and then everyone screams "paywall" as though that negates the validity of the findings.
>implying it's my responsibility to educate you on something about which you're clearly and purposefully under-informed .
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>>696381019
>I can't find recent information to better prove my claims, therefore it's your fault

Whatever you say, tumblrite
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>>696380078
Thanks for showing me that blacks aren't targetted more than whites when it comes to traffic stops.

You're being counter productive, actually, I'll use this link next time people say blacks are more targetted than whites. Thanks man!
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>>696380514
Men should have equal parental rights but feminists won't like that. Also they WANT there to be unequal numbers so they can point at it and cry muh oppression.
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>>696374136
Typical /b/tard activities. Seems legit to me.
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>>696377046
>>696376927
>>696373988
Not adjusted for population size.. look at the FBI homicide table 6 for raw data...
Do your own thinking dont be a nigger

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/tables/expanded-homicide-data/expanded_homicide_data_table_6_murder_race_and_sex_of_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2014.xls
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>>696370190
they should have boycotted it, its a shitty film anyways
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>>696376292
please dont group us Asians in with the niggers kthxbye
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>>696381636
This retard (>>696373988) is an SJW who is used to making blatant shitpost arguments and put up random numbers. That's why he doesn't realize what the situation is in reality.
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>>696381019
Fact of the matter is that blacks commit a disproportionate amount of violent crime, and that your link is not relevant to the claim you're trying to make.

If you had solid (((RELATIVE))) citations and sources to back up your claim, I'd entertain the idea that you're right. But traffic stop encounters from 2002&2005 aren't relative to the claim you're trying to make.
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>>696381916
That's not what the image is doing. The purpose is to show white people that they aren't a "majority" in terms of the world. That's why it only shows whites and non-whites of any race, to make white people realize how little they are compared to all people in the world. Because our racist genocidal brainwashing media propagandas constantly say we are a "majority" to inject white guilt and self-hatred.
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>>696380979
/truth
But it won't stop them from whinning about it day and night
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>>696381225
>I can't be bothered to educate myself, quick, let's find a way to blame it on this anon.
>i-i know! he must be from tumblr! that's it!!

>>696381271
>blacks aren't targetted more than whites when it comes to traffic stops
>blacks are almost 3 times as likely to be searched, and almost twice as likely to be arrested

read the whole thing before you open your mouth. Don't just look to confirm your own bias.
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>>696381993
>your link is not relevant to the claim you're trying to make.
>let's not say why

>encounters from 2002&2005 aren't relative to the claim you're trying to make.
>let's not say why either

>>696381992
>ad hominem makes me right!!!1!!1!
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>>696383024
>Dear diary;
>today i learnt how to greentext
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>>696383024
>I use big words without having any idea what they mean
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BUILD THE WALL! BUILD THE WALL! BUILD THE WALL! BUILD THE WALL! BUILD THE WALL! BUILD THE WALL! BUILD THE WALL! BUILD THE WALL!BUILD THE WALL! BUILD THE WALL! BUILD THE WALL! BUILD THE WALL! BUILD THE WALL! BUILD THE WALL! BUILD THE WALL! BUILD THE WALL!
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>>696381993
They are also far more likely to kill cops than be killed by a cop. 40% of police murders are by black people.
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>>696381636
Thanks for some actual numbers, I appreciate the link. What's your point though? That blacks are over-represented when it comes to violent crime? I never disputed that. That most people are victims of own-race violence as opposed to other-race?

How does this impact whether blacks are unfairly targeted by police or not?


>>696383406
according to whom/what?
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>>696383232
>>696383242
>ad hominem makes me right!!!1!!1!
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>>696370190
Proof
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>>696383550
According to FBI data, which also found that 40 percent of cop killers are black. A police officer is 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black than a cop killing an unarmed black person
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>>696383634
>repeating a non-argument somehow means I win
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>>696383659
the other 60% are white? lol
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>>696383634
FBI data is an ad hominen?
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>>696376204

women... I see a couple of problems here, however. Those bitches knew they won't starve to death on a TV show. Pity, tho. At the end of the day it comes down to a person, not to a gender. At least, I hope so.
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>>696383024
>You're claim isn't relativec let's not say why!
>My claim is relative, Let's not say why!

You're backpedaling, grasping for anything to make your claim justified.

No, traffic encounters are not relative to the claim that white people commit 54-56% of violent crime, neither is the point that black people are more likely to be searched. That has absolutely nothing to do with your claim.

>encounters from 2002&2005 are relative, let's not say why!

You're own logic can be used against you. Think before you speak
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>>696383838
Maybe, could be anyone, including mixed race people. It's not noted from where I'm reading.
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>>696383659
which FBI data? Can you link, or if you don't have the link that's cool, I just want to know the name of thing I should be looking for.

>>696383799
that's my point, anon, don't start stealing, now.

>>696383850
no, this is: >>696383232
>>696383242
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>>696381019
How is that an ad hominem? Ad homing would be claiming your argument is invalid because you're a retard with 7 chromosomes. Except, that example is true.

I used an ad hominem. And I meeeeeant it.
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>>696372272
"And a diet coke."
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>>696383991
Then the amount of black people killed by cops is still extremely disproportional to white people killed by cops.
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>>696384379
Followed by binge eating all night while watching orange is the new black staying up until 4 and getting up late for work at 8.

>it's genetic
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>>696384236
>actually whites commit ~54-56% of all violent crimes according to the BJS. Go fuck yourself you racist piece of shit, OP.
This is false as shown by FBI crime stats, thus I replied that you are an SJW who makes blatant shitposts and puts up random numbers. Your response: "whaa whaa ad hominem". So yeah, you don't know what that word means.
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>>696384616
Maybe if they comitted less crimes and would raise their hands over their heads when they are told to, they wouldn't be killed by cops so often?
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>>696383971
>thinking police-public contacts are just traffic encounters

Please anon, stop strawmanning so hard. You keep acting like my not dropping everything to educate you about what you're ignorant of is good reason to disbelieve the relevance of otherwise accurate data.
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>>696384616
The amount of crimes committed by black people is still extremely disproportional to crimes committed by whites and anyone else.
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>>696384368
>thinking that makes you right
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>>696384808
even if they did, whites make up 60% of the American population. Blacks make up 12%; black men are the primary law-breakers, so black men make up 6% of the U.S. population and are still responsible for what, like 30% of the crime?
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>>696384820
Yet white people are not targeted for the same behavior

>>696384926
That might be true but that's not a reason to be biased against them when pulling them over.

common sense bros
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>>696384379
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>>696384997
Never said it did. It just pleases that angry b/tard we eachieve have deep down. Especially when I see illogical shit stains like you throwing fallacy words around like you understand them. I TOLD you I was committing an ad hominem, on purpose, for illustration, and you still seem to think that I believe an ad homing is a valid argument. No, a valid argument is that you're cherry picking numbers from dated numbers with low relevance to the current date which is 10 years fucking later. Hang on, we're no in a recession, let me use the Economists numbers from 1994 to prove that. What? That's invalid? Funny, that.
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>>696384808
Those FBI crime stats show a total of about 5700 murders, of which about 3000 were committed by whites. That's 52%.

But I guess in your world that doesn't count as "most"...
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>>696385499
Also, fuck Samsung's autocorrect. Abysmal.
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>>696385517
Oh yeah, ....well, Shut Up!!!
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>>696385455
If a white person gets killed, nobody gives a shit
If a black person is killed the entire nation goes intoa riot against police men.
>Black people's lifes are so hard
>They need justice
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>>696385517
Ok. Now go find the crime rate that shows race murder/homicide of their/other races. You'll see blacks kill most of the blacks AND whites. I'll listen when you tell me 52% of Black murders are committed by white men, and show me THOSE numbers. Until then, it's clear you don't understand statistics or how to adjust for variables.
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>>696379205
Only an aggressive tard would make her initial point. Feminism is about equality, but it's framed in a way that was important socially, but is currently misleading.

You can be a feminist and not be a women's right's activist, so the man's equating the two is incorrect. It implies that feminism isn't about equality - so he didn't listen to a word she said. Not very reasonable. I can see why she exploded.
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>>696386036
>>Hurr, durr. Muh Webster's definition.
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Daily reminder that not all arabs are muslim and that islam is NOT a religion of peace. Please watch this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh_QB-ZQkSM
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>>696386216
That was off the top of my head, but I have read a lot about the history of Feminism. It's such a debated topic, I felt I had to.
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>>696386036


he should have asked:

1. What are you willing to admit Feminism offers you that Equality cannot?

2. Can you name one Feminist stance that doesn't blame men as the cause?

3. If Feminism is really about equality, then what have Feminists ever sacrificed to help men achieve equality?
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>>696385967
because they are minorities and from a history stand point have always been misrepresented and misunderstood by the majority. you might not like that but whites have done a shit ton of damage to minorities in this country especially the native americans. And continue to do so.
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>>696385499
>cherry picking
You'd have had to read the paper to know that, something you've clearly not done. All you're doing is grasping at anything which you can use to dispute numbers about which you know nothing, which you have no reason other than your own biases to disbelieve. I told you, the stats remain relatively unchanged. The BJS link I gave shows violent crime rates virtually unchanged from the 2014 FBI link that other anon posted, and somehow you've concluded that because they're 11 years old those data are invalid?
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>>696386378
1st and 2nd wave feminism actually corrected injustices against women. 3rd wave screams outside of lecture halls and cries about its imagined abuses, all while being sucked and fucked by their equally soft peers.
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>>696384890
Did.. Did you not read your own link...
>hurr durr look at me I can call everythinf a logical fallacy!!

Did you just learn what a fallacy was?
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>>696385455
>That might be true but that's not a reason to be biased against them when pulling them over.
Kinda like slavery half a century ago isn't reason for bias against people of a certain race, or how socially developed gender norms from the past which aren't relevant anymore isn't a reason to be biased against an entire gender? Yeah, go tell that to the SJW's. I'm sure they are all about equality.
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Asians will conquer the world and are the master race:

>1) They invented everything: rockets/missiles, paper, guns, working vertical flight (unlike Davinci), writing (Greece copied Mongoloid Sumeria) + build everything today. Chong engineering > German bs.

2) The Chongnese never abused their absolute power over the Philippines, willing tributary States (Vietnam, Korea, Tibet); most was good until Euraberica began opium distribution and failed proxy wars (We tried to destroy them, we failed). Now China keeps modernizing and will surpass us.

>3) Before the Nips friended Germany in WW2 They'd give medical, total release and pay POWs for their labor, and never ordered abuse.

4) These 3 Chongs never unnecessarily nor independently decided to extremely ravage/exploit a foreign land like the Dutch in Africa or Spain&Portugal+USA in America.

>5) in Africa, China has been building schools, hospitals, infrastructure, employing Africans instead of just bibles and taking their food, diamonds, etc.

6) During natural disasters they all work together to make sure everyone lives; there's no price gouging nor mass thieves.

>7) Their divorce+infidelity rates are far lower than Euraberica-(where lifestyles cause middleage men to commit suicide and die poor)

8) Their media isn't as depraved as ours eg Tosh.0s 'black dildo fight' where a young boy got raped and in other videos ppl get killed.

>9) they actually get shit done instead of working 1/2hr or 2 half hr a day like in Ameroupe.

10) Highest IQs+lowest crime rate. Their lit doesn't glorify murder, suicide, crying, cheating or wallowing in sorrow-no Shakespeare, oedipus, nor such poetry)

>11) They never invaded a country for false flags like 9/11&nukes (occupation killed over 70,000 innocents+created enemies RN)

12) No Abrahamic laws to stop their progress in human bioengineering

>+Mao's leap killed < 1/2 the pop.% the GreatDepression did

Let us devote ourselves faithfully to the only good masters and mistresses
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>>696386551
You're actually gonna make me search for my citations, and I'm trying to be lazy on my day off, you bigoted ass! Sigh, off to the BJS or FBI or whatever. But I want a picture of you eating your posts when I fucking find it, shitstain.
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>>696386435
I like a challenge, so I'm going to TRY answering
1. Feminism is a social movement which brought equality by highlighting inequality - hence its name. It brought women's rights in a way plain equality couldn't, and BLM is trying to follow the example now.

2. Sure. Philosophically, feminism doesn't blame anyone. It simply highlights feminine nature as a positive force in the world.

3. I believe they're in the process of sacrificing the name "feminism" - but given the history of the movement, I'm not sure what else they'd give up in the name of equality. You have any ideas?
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>>696386551
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_6_murder_race_and_sex_of_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xls Give that a read, fuckwit.
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>>696385995
you're retarded, blacks not only killed fewer people overall than whites, but most (read 80%+) of ALL murders are same-race.

But sure, 42% of all murders, and barely 14% of white murders is "most"
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>>696386559
This is a trend seen throughout a generation, not just within the context of feminism. Now that everyone has a voice and a potential audience, I think these sorts of things are unwittingly encouraged.
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>>696386695
I posted two links, and like barely one third of one was about traffic stops, and since that's what you read, that MUST be what all of those BJS data were about! Why bothering educating yourself?
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>>696387423
Can YOU fucking read!? Blacks kill more whites than whites kill blacks, you fucking idiot.
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>>696387725
Does this surprise you?
I think the crime with a larger and more common motive is clear.
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>>696387423
Are you also forgetting how many more whites there are than niggers?
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>>696387725
You even fucking highlighted it! For fuck sake! I'm starting to believe my 7 chromosome joke!
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>>696384890
It literally specifies "traffic encounters", the title is just "Contacts between the police and the public"

Give up anon, you're failing and your last line of defense is to call everything a strawman or an ad hominem, when you're not even using them right. If anything, you're the one strawmanning with those irrelevant statistics, calling everyone that opposes you uneducated.

Keep trying, anon.
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>>696387910
I agree. Tell that to the illiterate SJW/BLM cuck.
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>>696386705
>Kinda like slavery half a century ago isn't reason for bias against people of a certain race

It shouldn't be a bias. people shouldn't have to continue to pay the price for something their ancestors were guilty of. But the end result of what they did is still relevant because of a residual unequal status in society from poverty etc...

>or how socially developed gender norms from the past which aren't relevant anymore isn't a reason to be biased against an entire gender

Not relevant anymore? I wouldn't say that. Saying genders are equal because you say so doesn't mean it's true, their is still a significant difference in equality between men and women.
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>>696387701
It literally says it in EVERY BOX

Are you fucking blind? God I hate talking to retards.
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>>696386497
I am not american, but whatever.. I'll still get into this now.

Because white people killed off the natives, black people are allowed to riot?
They are allowed to call the cops and say "Help me, there's a man with a gun" and then shoot them on arival, like the chicken they are?
Because a cop did his job, black people go around and kill white people, and it's justified because "That poor little black kid din do nuffin" right?

Hell, maybe holding slaves WAS a bad thing. The white people learned that. But you know who else had slaves?
The BLACK PEOPLE themselfs.
The first acutal slave owner, the man who opened up the opportunity for white man to OWN a black man, was black.

Even if that is not enough for you, let me be a complete dickhead to prove my point, alright?

There was never a reason to free the black slaves. The white man still did it. Out of gratitude. They gave the black man freedom,
And this is how you thank them. By saying "Well, you held my great great great great great great great grandfather slave, so I am allowed to shoot you"

You know what happened when Aladdin freed Genie?
THAT BLUE BASTARD WAS SO GRATEFUL THAT HE STUCK AROUND FOR AN ENTIRE SHOW OF 200 EPISODES TO READ EVERY WISH OFF OF HIS MASTERS LIPS.
AND
YOU
RIOT
AGAINST
YOUR
LIBERATORS
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>>696388060
Hate to break it to you, but I'm one of those cucks too. I just realize that pretending problems, and the roots of those problems, don't exist only further polarizes the issue and increases tension.
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>>696387423

statistically women rape more than men
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>>696387701
>hurr durr I'm gonna keep calling you uneducated because it makes me feel superior and doesn't make me have to face the reality that I'm wrong
>hurr durr I'm not gonna waste my time educating you but I'll waste my time attempting to degrade you to give the illusion that I'm more credible than you


It must be hard being that fucking stupid.
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>>696387100
page not found. What are looking for I'll help search.

>>696387725
"blacks kill more whites than whites kill blacks" is definitely not the same as " blacks kill most of the blacks AND whites."

The problem isn't that I don't know how to read, it's that you have no idea how to type.

>>696387954
since you don't know how to ctrl+f, I'll help you out: http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=tp&tid=70

That was the first link, and like I said about the REST of the other link, it's barely 30% about traffic stops.

>>696388244
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>>696387041
>1. Feminism is a social movement which brought equality by highlighting inequality - hence its name. It brought women's rights in a way plain equality couldn't, and BLM is trying to follow the example now.

can you name anything in a first world country that a man can do that a woman is not allowed too?

>2. Sure. Philosophically, feminism doesn't blame anyone. It simply highlights feminine nature as a positive force in the world.

so the answer is "NO", you can't name a feminist stance that doesn't blame men as the cause

>3. I believe they're in the process of sacrificing the name "feminism"

wow, they are going to give up using a word?

My thimble runneth over.

how about working to change the lopsided, unfair laws (towards men) when it comes to things such as child custody and alimony?
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>>696379036
Go back to fark
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>>696388150
>>their is still a significant difference in equality between women and men.

Citations, mother fucker? Feminists are so retarded, they will fight for the right to take harmful/unbenificial medicine just because it promotes their slur agenda (Addyl) and I'm supposed to believe these morons know how to effect their own happiness and equality? The same feminists who got a UK company to deploy a Pay Wage Gap tax on the men in its company meaning a less qualified woman makes more than a more qualified man on day of hire? Or Anita Sarkeesian's pitiful arguments on Feminist Frequency? Your movement has become a paraplegic parody of itself and you still demand I laud it as a brilliant form of progressivism. You're a fucking moron.
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>>696372048

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>>696388903
Spanish newspapers weren't bias and trying to bend facts this time? Holy shiet
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>>696388377
>I am not american,

then what are you? you obviously didn't understand what I said, and I don't feel like correcting you. From my experience of people outside the US they are not all that upset over Black people because they are completely different in Europe and other places then they are here, so I'm guessing you're just a troll.
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>>696388729
>It must be hard being that fucking stupid.
Not nearly as hard as maintaining those blinders of yours. Given that you now have at least three links to all the relevant data you need.

>better spend my time greenposting instead of actually reading something which might change my mind.

Don't want to inform any of those preconceived notions now, would we.
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>>696389028
Implying I'm a feminist or that feminazi's should represent All women.

And I'm the moron? lmao
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>>696389104
both are male "idealizations"

women don't like crazy musclebound guys like that, men do.
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>>696386705
>Kinda like slavery half a century ago

you think slavery ended 50 years ago? did you eat lead paint chips as a child?
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>>696388975
Also, pretty sure the only actual rights denied, then gained, weren't attained under the banner of feminism. I don't recall suffrage leaders calling themselves feminists. That came about in the 60's/70's long after any human rights had been obtained and social privileges were targeted instead.

I think people forget what it was like before this 4th wave shit came up. Even early 2000's people gladly criticized 3rd wave feminism as being controlled by angry lesbians who hated men and wanted them punished. They had no fear holding their tongues regarding how asinine it was to be a militant feminist when there was no inequality.
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>>696388975
>can you name anything in a first world country that a man can do that a woman is not allowed too?
No, but that's not really the point. Gender equality to me is mostly an issue in 3rd world countries, and that's where feminism is most helpful. the minor social issues in places like America are unfortunately treated with the same fervor by some, and that just makes feminism look bad.

>so the answer is "NO"
I gave the entire philosophy as a stance. You want another? I believe the economic system has been blamed for limiting potential success, and female anatomy has been blamed for hindering the prospect of equality - just to name a couple off the top of my head.

>how about working to change the lopsided, unfair laws (towards men) when it comes to things such as child custody and alimony?
Fair enough, you should bring it up at a meeting.
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>>696389338
Yeah, our blacks are in line and know how to be proper members of society. We don't have these massive riots.

HOWEVER, since I am well aware of the situation in america, where I am located at the moment, I like to think I can talk in this matter.


Thanks for not responding to any of my points simply because you don't think I am allowed to voice my opinion, based on my race.

Checkmate.
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>>696389368
The more you talk, the more I see past your newfag facade. Tumblrina sent an under qualified representitive. Next time, they'll have to Waterboro a b/tardy into being a sleeper agent, because they'll never win them over with their "logic." I hope Feminists work like government spies and they reject you when you come back for your glaring inadequacy.
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>>696389826
I fucking hate autocorrect.
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>>696389708
Not him, but it doesn't seem like you're familiar with the divide between 3rd and 1st world feminists because the 3rd world feminists feel like they're are being culturally targeted by outsiders who just want to thrust their own values onto them. If you want to see a fucked white mindset, it's a middle class white girl from Ohio telling Bangladeshi women what they want and what the right way to think is
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>oh hey a feminist thread, those are always good for a sensible chuckle
>Thread immediately devolves into an argument about nig nogs

Damn niggers ruin everything
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>>696389368
>maintaning those blinders
>"if your information was relevant, I'd entertain the idea that you're right "

K lol

>pic related

Too bad nothing in the pic is relative

>I'll waste my time greentexting instead of educating myself

But there's nothing relative to (((YOUR CLAIM))) in any of those links. Why do you keep straying away from your original claim?

Because it's WRONG.
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>>696390207
I lul'd
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>>696369734
Gotcha bitch
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>>696389717
>still didn't say where you're from
>doesn't understand the role that history plays in shaping sub cultures in countries

I'm not responding to your points because you don't have a point, because you are ignorant.

Also, who says checkmate besides an idiot troll? that's right just an idiot troll. go back to getting drunk and masturbating in your mom's basement friendo.
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>>696383298
Electrify the fence, once the first few retards get the message they'll stay out
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>>696390344
Thank you for correcting "greenposting." Shit made me cringe. Lol.
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>>696390139
I am aware of it. My first venture into the ideology of feminism came after I met a young woman living in Pakistan. She explained to me why she valued arranged marriages, and I gained a new cultural understanding. Feminism needs to arise from the needs of a culture and its people, not from an outside ideology. That's how it happened in the west.
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>>696389826
>implying anything you said has any semblance of logic about it

What I love is how alien the notion is to you that someone who likes the same things you do , someone who even frequents the same sites as you, could possibly disagree and still be reasonable.

>Nah, fuck that, it's way more fun to just demonize and insult someone you disagree with

>>696389961
Now that's more like it! Some real pussy-wetters right there.
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>>696383658
Proof is just the patriarchy at work.
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>>696369734
What the fuck did you just say about me you fucking misogynist? I'll have you informed that I graduated first in my class of gender studies, I have been raped numerous times, and I have developed over 300 new genders. I am trained in self diagnosis, and I am the top feminist in the entire tumblr community.
You are nothing to me than just Another fucking homophobic. I will outsmart the fucking fuck out of you with big words of which this post has never seen. Remember what I say, you think you can just tell me there are only two genders? Check your privilege cis scum. As we angrily type I am contacting the FBI to tell them you just raped me, so you better prepare for the storm you fucking misogynist. The storm of furries and self diagnosed Heros that wipes out fuckers like you. You're a fucking skinhead kid, I can be whatever gender I want to be anytime, anywhere
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>>696373473
iFunny
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>>696390436
>doesn't respond to points because of anon's race
>calls him out as a troll to save his skin

How ya doin', hypocrite SJW faggot?
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>>696390606
Yeah, because my blacks kill more whites than vice versa argument I sighted was invalid, and no, clearly you're a fellow tard, what with the shitty greentexting you misnamed AND clearly just figured out. We should have all just fucking saged you when we saw how soft your grey matter was. No, I don't prefer ad hominem, but I also don't like sheep wearing wolves clothing attempting to act as if they're one of us, when this doublethink bullshit is exactly why we all hate Tumblr, you obvious, foaming, twitching Tumblrina, you.
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>>696387041
>3. I believe they're in the process of sacrificing the name "feminism" - but given the history of the movement, I'm not sure what else they'd give up in the name of equality. You have any ideas?

Citation needed.

There is no chain of command in the movement, no one issues talking points; hence why you have some logical feminists (like Based Mom) that are shunned by the typical college-campus youtube-video-maker misandrist.

With the latter, that is why you see such conflicting opinions ("Men can be feminists!" "Men can't be feminists, only allies!" "Sorry, guys, you'll never be a feminist!")

The term "feminist" has too much history of good (think 1st and 2nd generation) associated with it to give up. Plus, it's easy to convince small-minded girls to join, because feminine is right in the name.
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>>696370657
congratulations. You've both gotten the point and missed the point at the same time. you're a special kind of stupid that only comes around once in a blue moon.
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>>696389708
>No, but that's not really the point. Gender equality to me

that's exactly the point, it's not solely, squarely based you only what YOU think it is. if that is the case then how can 'equality' ever be met and satisfied because there are hundreds of thousands of feminists, and if they all have different opinions on what it should be, then how can it ever be deemed successful?

>I believe the economic system has been blamed for limiting potential success, and female anatomy has been blamed for hindering the prospect of equality.

you'll have to explain this one a little further, as i can interpret it several ways.

>how about working to change the lopsided, unfair laws (towards men) when it comes to things such as child custody and alimony?
>>Fair enough, you should bring it up at a meeting.

well then why aren't true equality feminists already aggressively asking these laws be changed, they are clearly sexist and biased and that is what feminists want to end on all fronts, isn't it?
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>>696390344
that's the thing, you're so convinced nothing I posted could possibly be relevant that you're even willing to disregard the data that was posted in argument AGAINST me. That 2014 FBI was yours, not mine (or at least someone who agreed with you posted it), and now you're willing to discard it because I was willing to read it only to find out it supported me?

>blinders 100% confirmed

Thanks for the chuckle, mate, but if you were never willing to even consider you were wrong, why did you say so?
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>>696390436
I highly value an outsider opinion in this context. By ignoring his points it is heavily implied that you concede said points, hence the importance. As it stands you not refuting the argument just strengthens it
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>>696389554
Man here. I don't like crazy musclebound guys. I can't identify with them, and even find them gross in most contexts. Could you not stereotype my gender? Thanks.
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>>696391075
I have no citation, I'm just looking at similar movements from the past. Once their name is turned to mud, they'll re-brand. That's what I meant by "in the process of".
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>>696382781
well if your car smells like colt45 and weed, would you expect an officer to go "ya know, I didn't search that white guy a few miles back, so I guess i can't search this guy either."

also, whites are more likely to be killed by officers, even though they brandish firearms against them less often than blacks, if new york is any example that carries through.
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The entire point of feminism was to open choices and opportunities for everyone.

Now it just demands you act one way and like one thing or else.
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>>696370190
Yeah, and considering it was more misogynistic rather than feminist it was quite funny. I like to hope most MRAs aren't that retarded.
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>>696391613
>I have no citation, I'm just looking at similar movements from the past. Once their name is turned to mud, they'll re-brand. That's what I meant by "in the process of".

Kek. I mean, I seriously kek'd aloud reading that.

You're special, you know that? That's totally not what "in the process of" means.
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>>696378234
Underated post
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just a retarded picture because Russia is non-white in the pic, but the right thought.
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>>696392149
It was a stretch for a difficult question, but hey, glad it amused you.
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>>696391204
Wasn't me that posted FBI stats
>>Blinders 100% confirmed

No, not really. I enjoy learning new things, and having a change of perspective on things, which is why I never once attacked you, called you a cuck, or some other troll-worthy /b/-tier Shitposting besides calling you fucking stupid because my patience has run out.


I'm not going to be called uneducated by someone who can't even cite relevant information. You're the one that refuses to be wrong here, you're backpedaling, trying to make irrelevant information applicable to your claims, and calling everyone that opposes you uneducated.

But yes, I'm the one with blinders on.

Projection is a pretty common method of denial.
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>>696373988
>i will post lies and nonsense because am a nigger hurr durr and will scream "racist".
die nigger (sandnigger, spic etc.) scum piece of shit, you all will die soon. you all are already dead, natural born criminals.
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>>696391056
>sheep wearing wolves clothing attempting to act as if they're one of us

heh. That's how foreign the idea that I could be a /b/tard is to you, then. Like I said, if you're not even willing to entertain the notion that someone who you otherwise agree with disagrees with you here, then don't claim otherwise.

I know you won't believe it (mostly because I'm the one saying it, but that really just goes to prove my point, you retarded faggot), but I've been frequenting this board since fucking 2005. Not that it matters, though. /b/ was never good.

>>696391631
According to the BJS, in 19% of interactions in which force was used, whites may have acted in a manner which caused the use of force, as compared to 11.7% for blacks. So I guess NYC's trends don't carry over for the rest of the country.
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>>696369734
>Be me
>Sit in front of the bus
>Asked to sit in different spot
disabled man in a wheelchair on oxygen
>move to another chair
>ham beast waddles on board and asks me to give up my chair
>reply with "there are other empty chairs"
>Feel as though I don't want to set off a triggly puff, I move
>whale sits in chair and mumbles
>"You gave up your seat so fast for another man but you give me a woman a hard time and this is why feminism is needed for these ugly disgusting men"
>"You're worth the same as that disabled trash"
I was pissed but I kept it in because I didn't want to get called for rape against a woman(?)
I'm an ugly mother fucker but I'm a decent human being at least, why did my day have to get ruined?
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>>696380078
Looks like you're still learning how to do research at school.

No worries bud, when summers over and a new semester begins you can ask your teacher to help you.
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>>696383658
http://www.returnofkings.com/63036/why-you-should-not-go-see-mad-max-feminist-road
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>>696377046
thats all police bullshit
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>>696378221
Because Slavs aren't Caucasian...
>it didn't "start" being non-white, it was never white to begin with
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>>696392626
You are fucking LYING. I have ACTUALLY been here since 2007, when traps were called traps for a reason, and we all were relatively logical, aside from our view of human life due to basement dweller syndrome. But if you can honestly tell me you not only understand but SIDE with the Tumblr/Reddit views of gender and equality and shit, then, I'm sorry, friend... but you were never one of us. Now go on, before consequences are never the same.
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>>696373988
So we commit less violent crime than we should statistically should, considering the demographics of the country? Good job. Now please explain why the other 45% of violent crime is perpetrated by 20% of the country.
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>>696392382
>I enjoy learning new things

I suppose that's why you haven't bothered to read my links so you can see for yourself how relevant they are. How can you call defending relevant data against someone who is largely unwilling to even look at them backpedalling? lol.

All that, and you've yet to cite something which lends even the least bit of credence to your claims of irrelevance. Literally the only thing you've done is refuse to accept evidence based on little more than a whim, and but sure, I'm the one projecting...
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>>696393358
Thank you. This is basically what I was trying to tell him when I cited the 2014 victim/perpetrator by race page.
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>>696393043
I'm just a random anon, but I've got to disagree. We've always been here, but why would we talk about this stuff back then? Only recently have these issues became relevant to /b/.

I've been coming here since 06. Came for the loli, stayed for the circlejerks, led a few raids, and met Moot before he abandoned us. This place is my home, but man do I disagree with you.
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>>696392843
Even though the Caucasus mtns are in russia...
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>>696393358
It's closer to 26% of crime is committed by 15-16% of the population, but anyway: socio-economic status. Once adjusted for, blacks are not nearly as over-represented as the unadjusted data suggest. To be fair though, blacks are still slightly over-represented even once socio-economic status is adjusted for, but not nearly as much.
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>>696393604
Well, maybe I believe you... But you are seriously misguided, anon. I'm legitimately not trying to be condescending. The ideas on orientation acceptance and female equality on the law, however, do not apply to the people you're arguing with. If this were an Iranian board, sure, but if you really think women are oppressed in first world countries, then you've truly drank the Kool aid, man. This shit is literally antievolutionary. Gay people think they're oppressed when they're 4% of the population, and none of us give a fuck what they do. Oppression is not being a minority. It's being a minority who is ACTIVELY discouraged and derailed from success by an active power. Like, oh, I don't know, fucking islam. Not a god damned democracy where women can work hard, like anyone else, and become a millionaire. Don't be a twat. Your confirmation bias is staggering.
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>>696393888
Socio-economic status is a big part of culture, but not the only part. For the rest to change would take not only the proper environment/socio-economic conditions, but also time. It takes generations.
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>>696391667
>hope most MRAs aren't that retarded.

Retards on the left, retards on the right.

If someone can't deal with an entire gender (regardless of what gender it is), they're severely stunted one way or another.
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>>696389961
and why d they eat it up like crack... also, fifty shades..
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>>696394145
I think there is a discrepancy between the amount of oppression and the way it's discussed that needs to be addressed, for sure. Oppression does exist even in 1st world countries, but it's not deserving of a civil rights outcry like feminism first supported.

I've talked about this a bit in this thread already:
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>>696393043
That's the strawman you're attacking, sir. I happen to agree that blacks are dealt a pretty shitty hand in the states, but I would hardly call that siding with "Tumblr/Reddit views of gender and equality"...

>>696393543
except you don't know how to type what you mean, that makes it difficult to understand.
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>>696393506
I have read your links, and found no relevant information to your original claim.
And if you knew how to debate, you'd know that when you're the one laying a claim, you take on the burden of proof.
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>>696385471
She should probably slow down on the sandwiches.
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>>696394724
I woke up 2 hours ago, and I'm currently stoned. To be honest; You're lucky I'm this coherent, fam. I'm not stupid, but it's hard to argue with people at an email-like pace. I still found AND cited my original argument correctly. My inability/lack of desire to give a fuck does not discredit my argument.
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>>696394727
Simple crime statistics aren't relevant?

Lets try it this way.

John hits Lenny with a baseball bat 5 times.

Lenny punches John once.

Saying that John is more violent than Lenny isn't being prejudiced against John. Can we agree on this? I'll leave the rest to you to figure out in your own time. I know it must put a lot of strain on your mind.
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I'd have to say that the worst aspect of the racism/sexism movements is that they bleed into so many places where there isn't a problem with those things. Racism and sexism were never a problem here in Washington until they started getting news attention a short time ago, now everyone that just got out of school thinks their opinion is the end all be all and that the country as a whole is rampant with the injustice that mostly isn't there
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>>696392174
That's a smart idea.
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>>696392014
>can't and don't
there is a difference
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>>696383298
Ok, I know this is an anonymous image board, but who the fuck let Donald Trump in?
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>>696395563
There is no government program that provides housing for males who CANT take care of their children. There are several government programs and hundreds of private charities that do that exact thing.
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>>696395766
ahem... for women.
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I think we ran him off, guys! Yay, logic!
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>>696396075

who?
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>>696396283
The dipshit SJW, obviously. Why else would I be celebrating?
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>>696394704
>Oppression does exist even in 1st world countries

examples?


(Please actual examples, not what you FEEL are examples)
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>>696394727
>you take on the burden of proof.

Not the burden of education. The burden of proof has nothing to do with when you begin to dispute the veracity or applicability of relevant data, seemingly only so that you can claim that the burden of proof requires I present data which is personally approved by you. No such thing. The burden of proof does not require that anyone satisfy such unreasonable demands.

Let me remind you,your arguments against the data I presented is: "it's traffic stop data," a claim which is patently false, and it's old (although there is only evidence that the statistics remain almost entirely unchanged). One has no burden to defend a mischaracterization of one's argument or data, something which you seem bound and determined to make me do.

Here's a one of the relevant tables. It shows that while the actions of whites may have prompted use of force by police some 19% of the time, blacks only did so 11.7% of the time.

Similarly, the same publication shows that blacks are some 3.5 times more likely to be the victims of police violence, with police using force against blacks about 4.4% of the time, while only using force about 1.2% of the time against whites.

Those data seem remarkably relevant to the conversation...
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>>696396741
Ok, now find me what % of blacks resist arrest. And whites, too, I guess. I'm sure you know what the data will reflect. But let's have fun.
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>>696396075
>Yay, logic!
Maybe 5% of the posts you faggots made defending yourselves had any semblance of logic to them. Let's be realistic:
>Yay, harassment
FTFY
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>>696391075
she act like it was a surprise.

yeah ,sure, i will stand here in all my patriarchy massive body and let you hit me just beacuse you are a woman
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>>696396939
resisting arrest was classified as an action which would cause police to use force. And the breakdown is 19/11%, in favor of whites resisting more. pic related
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>>696396517
Hmm, before that, I'd like to change the terminology. I think that might make it more understandable. Instead of oppression, I'll call it bias (because as I said before, this isn't like what spurred the civil rights movement).

People are biased towards making the safest decisions, for obvious reasons. People are also bound to make hasty generalizations about minorities. So, if anyone is making any decision regarding you, and you're a minority, that bias is going to work against you. That's what the SJWs call systematic oppression. It's not about rights, but attitude and fair treatment. It really shouldn't be compared to the civil rights movement at all. And, it needs to be prefaced with the fact that it can never be fully overcome. It's simply an idea that encourages people to treat others more objectively.
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>>696396388
And the best part is I'm not even a dreaded SJW, I just happen to think the data shows blacks generally get it worse in America. I voted republican in the last 3 elections, lol.

But of course it's easier to just assume anyone who disagrees with you disagrees with you on everything, I suppose.
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>>696397563
>can never be overcome
I'm sure they said the same thing about suffrage and slavery. In the grand scheme of things though those two things changed and the hurdles were quickly overcome, and in the case of the US it only took one war instead of two.
What I'm trying to say is the same thing another wise anon mentioned above: things take time. Give it a few generations at most and things will be different. I feel it may take longer if these extremists keep spreading fear and anger through pitiful protests or rioting, but it will happen nonetheless
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>Hmm, before that, I'd like to change the terminology. I think that might make it more understandable. Instead of oppression, I'll call it bias
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>>696397851
Since I stuck up for you, I have to ask - do you have any input on what I've been saying?
>>696397563
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>>696398336
>can never be overcome
These problems are artifacts of how the human brain works. The only way to counteract them is through education, and even then it only mitigates the problems. If you can tell me how to eliminate the tendency towards hasty generalizations, I'll worship you on the spot.
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>>696398400
I mostly agree with the caveat that I dislike the degree to which that legitimate criticism has been misinterpreted in favor of increasing political correctness. Otherwise, I think that's pretty spot-on.
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>>696396741
They also seem remarkably irrelevant to the claim that Whites commit 54-56% of violent crime.

Did you forget your original claim or are you still strawmanning?
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>>696398342
I'm still talking about exactly the same thing. If it doesn't seem like that, you're only agreeing with me.
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>>696388377
Am an American and I'm glad this erocuck isn't as blind as the rest.
Although I thought the first owner was a nigerlady, meh. Close enough by today's standards.
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>>696369734
Such a shame that feminism has such a shitty ring to it. All they wanted in the first place was "Social Justice". Still a good thing though - i love those landwhales. But what i really think matters (and makes sense in 2016) is queer feminism. queer meaning any kind of "other". So darkskinned, women, gay people - anyone surpressed.
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>>696369734
I feel like this is a problem only on the internet and media. I never run into this shit in real life, but see it seep into movies and games and such.
Anyone else feel this way?
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>>696398342
except that what that anon said is far more reflective of the reasonable positions held by those you disagree with. He's not moving the goalposts, he's clarifying definitions.

>>696398898
So you didn't read the 2014 FBI thing? Here, I'll repost it for you
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>>696399346
I don't, but I live in a big city in Cali.
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>>696380221
That first paragraph is so true. My ex wouldn't leave me alone, so I threatened to bring to light that she was fucking her boss to advance at work. 2 hours later I was arrested. Apparently I was stalking her and beating her for the entire time I knew her. I spent half a week in a provincial remand center. Over a month in court dates. A years wages on a lawyer. Untold amounts of stress. So any ways I proved she was a lying cunt in court, but I was not allowed to counter her allegations for any sort of compensation. Even after proving beyond a doubt she was lying.
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>>696399492
I live in Houston, TX, so maybe that's why. There are still some level-headed people that don't let everything they see influence them. At least the people I work with anyway.
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>>696399039

>I'd like to change the terminology
>I'm still talking about exactly the same thing

no, no you aren't.

>If it doesn't seem like that, you're only agreeing with me.

how can i be agreeing with you when you keep changing "what you mean" or "what you meant to say"?
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>>696400172
I'm talking about systematic oppression. I said so specifically. SJWs call it that because of parallels with civil rights, but my point is that it's not a fair comparison to be making - so I changed the terminology.
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>>696399558
What are the legit numbers in terms of how many men are found guilty of X, Y, Z? Do you know a source? I'm not disputing the claim, BTW, I recall that most divorce settlements tend to favor the woman, but I don't know the exact numbers.

It's also worth noting that many feminists would argue that this kind of discrimination is wrong, and the result of accepting some of their stances would be the erasure of such injustices, not the propagation of them.

>>696400172
Yes, he is. You just don't like that when we take the time to properly define what we're talking about, his position is reasonable.
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>>696399425
Can you read to me what this says?

>>696373988

And then read the title of the expanded FBI chart.
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>>696399425
>>>696398342 (You)
>except that what that anon said is far more reflective of the reasonable positions held by those you disagree with. He's not moving the goalposts, he's clarifying definitions.

and he's still not providing examples that aren't just opinion/what he FEELS are oppression.

i'm asking to see genuine cases of 1st world oppression towards women, and he's provided none. So now he's trying to change the definition of the explanation because he doesn't appear to have any.
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>>696400877
Checkem btw
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The best part was afterwards though. My brother had been sitting in the galley and apparently some land whale cunt was getting super pissed off at the evidence I provided. Apparently providing correspondence that contradicts what a women has said is illegal. Lol I can't wait till this entire ball is radioactive.
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>>696399425
All I'm saying is murder =\= violent crime as a whole, even if they do disproportionately commit more murder when adjusted for population.
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>>696400450
>I'm talking about systematic oppression

explain an instance of systematic oppression in a 1st world country that is occurring now.

Not 100 years ago, not 50 years ago, not even 10 years ago. Please list the country as well.
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>>696372048
I like you :)
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>>696400877
>>696400977
Nice back-tack twin dubs, fellas. Keep up the good work.
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>>696400829
>>>696400172 (You)
>Yes, he is. You just don't like that when we take the time to properly define what we're talking about, his position is reasonable.

what has he defined or given as an example?
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>>696398745
Generalizations as an abstract will never go away, for it is too crucial a survival strategy to identify a potential threat.
That being said, you already answered how to remove those generalizations in which you refer to: education and encouraging positive interactions.
What you seem to have missed is the part where it takes time. Instant gratification has no stable form in the realm of progress, for too sudden of change will always see backlash from those set in their ways.
Think of how far proper racism has gone since the 1930s when blacks were still treated as separate citizens compared to today where there is no societal dispute as to their civil status.
Even with the holdouts through the generations the change will come. I have parents with racial biases, and grandparents with more biases then them, yet I don't agree with many of those biases which I feel has no valid claim these days.

Give mankind a little more credit than you do: we are pretty good at fixing issues when they need it
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>>696401590

this is good.
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>>696400977
That's because I said there was oppression in the sense SJWs use the word. It's a very real phenomenon with very negative consequences for minorities - but it's not oppression in the sense people are used to hearing about. Now that I've explained that, I'd be happy to give you some specific examples.

I think the most obvious would be the U.S. prison system. The rate of black males in detention is outrageous, largely because of laws and police officers which target them. Now, I'm not finger pointing - there is no one actively oppressing anyone. That's why I hate the term oppression. It's the system of many people's combined behaviors which leads to systematic oppression.
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>>696400877
what? what's your point?

Expanded Homicide Data Table 6

homicide isn't violent crime?

>>696400977
>>696401218
He defined oppression because of your misinterpretation. Oppression the way it's used here is more accurately reflected in his definition, not in your literal interpretation of the dictionary meaning. see >>696401776
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>>696401776
Almost lucky trips, but how are they targetted when they commit a disproportionate amount of crime?
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>>696401987
You said "violent crime" not "Homicide"

Violent crime includes but is not limited to: home invasion, robbery, assault, murder, rape, mugging, and the aggravated forms of those listed above.

You haven't given me a citation of source that compiles violent crimes as a whole, which is what I've been trying to say you're not doing.
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>>696401776
>i'm asking to see genuine cases of 1st world oppression towards WOMEN

i asked for (and have been talking about this whole time) examples of oppression towards 1st world women.

reading comprehension, D minus.
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>>696401990
>how are they targeted
By generalizations, and that's where the conflict arises. Yes, profiling is a useful tool - but it's not always the best tool. This is especially true when the reasons for disproportionate crime are often also a result of systematic oppression.

You can't look at the issue of incarceration without also looking at one of its largest root causes, socioeconomic entrapment - another result of systematic oppression.
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>>696402667
If you took the time to understand the point, you'd be able to find them yourself.
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>>696370190
>Did you know that the MRA tried to boycott Mad Max Fury Road
must have been a successful campaign since nobody heard about it nor cared.
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