>20XX >not being vegan B-b-but muh protein!!1one
The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
>20XX
>not being vegan
B-b-but muh protein!!1one
>>696136465
I'm not a vegan because I love the way meat taste and life is too short to give a crap about some stupid animal.
Did you just assume their gender?
>>696136732
Enjoy being reincarnated as a cow and having others not care about you
>>696136875
>he thinks there is an afterlife
Wew lad you gotta be 18+ to post here
>holds the world heavyweight log-lifting record of 190kg
Not really, Zydrunas Savickas; 228kg
>>696136465
Lol. Eat shit.
Oh wait, you already do. Carry on, then.
>>696137493
But I'm 29
>>696139178
Says the person eating actual shit
>>696139649
>implying i buy shitty storebought minced meat
>implying i dont mince my meat myself
>implyimg i eat fastfood at McDumbs or burgerFaggot
Wew lad
You get fecal matter in your mouth every time you go in the bathroom, sleep well.
>>696139917
And it comes from living things, meaning you are eating non vegan things... sleep well
>>696140021
>vegans don't eat living things
How dumb are you?
>>696136465
Brian Shaw: Bench press-290 kg, Deadlift-420 kg, not a vegan
>>696138711
Big Z is a fucking monster tho. Baboumian is a high-tier strongman regardless
>>696140176
Oh come on, you know what i meant, dont play the smartass
>>696136465
http://time.com/4344556/mount-everest-death-climbing-vegan/
>vegan tries to climb Mount Everest to prove they can do anything.
>dies
>>696140177
The pic says Germany's strongest man, though.
But Brian Shaw is a beast.
>>696141114
That sucks. Husband survived, though, right? And from what I understand he was also vegan?
Either case, don't judge the forest from a tree, etc.
That's like posting kids dying because of vegan diet and then saying that proves veganism invalid. It doesn't, it just proves that stupid people exist.
i know this is an obvious troll thread but just to clear out the delusions, humans are meant to be omnivores, this is how we evolved over the many years and the main reason the human intelligence could reach high altitudes is the high protein intake from animals, anyone who deny this is a delusional libcuck who probably failed every biology and chemistry exams and dedicated his life to fallow bullshit others say to him
>>696141833
>humans are meant to be omnivores
>are meant to be
>are meant to
>meant to
>meant
>>696142123
post bullshit pictures to justify your stupidity, very good carry on
>>696140886
As I see it, both an animal and a plant are alive and neither want to be eaten by you (except for fruits).
The difference is that you can more easily identify with a pig, cow, chicken, or even fish than you can with a carrot. The objection to eating meat seems to come down to, these creatures are like me therefore it is monstrous to eat them and these other creatures are not like me so the bad things I am doing to them don't really matter.
I accept that in order to live, I need to harm other life forms and consume them to power my body. I did not make reality this way and I cannot change either myself or humanity so that we no longer need to feed on other life forms to survive.
>>696142396
At least I have an argument. Let's hear yours.
Reality is you are behaving like a drug addict. Completely irrational defense mechanisms. You dislike veganism because something inside you knows it's the right thing. And all the years of cultural brainwashing, established within your subconsciousness, is fighting it back the only way it knows how - anger.
You have 0 reason to eat meat in 2016. You didn't choose to eat meat, your parents did that for you. And their parents did it for them.
I may be a vegan asshole, but if I'm doing one thing better than you are it's that I'm making my own fucking choices.
Enjoy your shitburgers.
>>696142123
You work on an orchard, cause you sure are good at pickin' cherries.
Iranian....but he's not.
>>696142846
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQq93Q2txrs
http://www.chimpsanctuarynw.org/blog/2013/07/chimpanzee-teeth/
Who gives a shit about veganism
>>696137493
>you think there is no afterlife
nigga we can all believe what we want to
you post anime fagshit
>>696136465
>171 cm
LMAO
>>696136465
Plants are living things too, fuck the cult of veganism, life feeds on life.
>>696145369
Who woulda thunk that Germany's strongest man would be a midget...
>>696136465
>Strongest man from Germany - shitskin mudslime
>171cm Manlet
>Vegan
This guy
>>696136465
>meme prs
Seeiously I was hitting those weights in high school weightlifting class. And that's while eating meat and getting ACTUAL protein in my body.
Plus, I love the taste of meat and pissing off veganfags.
>>696136465
Bench press 215 KG...
LOL
That is good in 10th grade.
Our best roid monkey was running 670lbs without a shirt by Sr year (still didn't get a scholarship. Suck it 5'2" fags!).
>>696142846
/thread
>>696136465
>boby-builder
How horribly malnourished do you have to be to mistake the "b" button for a "d"?
>>696146310
>I'm an angry faggot who loves heightened LDL and a shorter lifespan cuz "hur dur meat is manly :^]"
>>696139649
What DOESN'T have fecal matter in it?
>>696146844
>shitty vegan memes
Wanting to live a long life is fucking retarded. I already plan to blow my brains out when I'm 62 if I'm not already dead. I don't give a fuck about becoming a wrinkly old shit like you.
>>696136465
after each 'meal', having to eat 2kg of pills as supplements not to die. No, thanks.
>>696136465
Being vegan is extream and retarded.
Vegetarian is the right thing to do but I don't want to because I enjoy the taste of meat. I don't have to defend myself before you or anyone. I do what I want now piss off.
>inb4 : muh meat subsitutes taste the same as meat
No it doesnt, you know it and you just keep telling this to yourself so you can sleep at night.
>>696136465
>boby-builder
I'm also vegan
>>696146982
Except plant based diets also show a general increase in quality of life from those that eat omnivorously. You have every right to your own life and what you want to do with it or end it but given the harmful effects of animal agriculture on the environment and every other person in the world, it's not just about you and your own choices. It's about a choice you're making affecting everyone around you.
>>696142123
Congrats the only point you've prooven is that niggers and evolution exist
Any vegan who ever rides in a motor vehicle is a hypocrite.
Motor vehicles, all motor vehicles, kill bugs. Lots of them. Bugs are animals. By slaughtering them for your own convenience, you are drawing an arbitrary line regarding what is okay to kill and what is not and for what reasons. You can't argue about whether or not it's okay to kill animals, only about what animals it's okay to kill and why.
To me, fulfilling the basic need for sustenance is a better reason to do just about anything than because you're in a hurry to get somewhere.
>>696142846
>Reality is you are behaving like a drug addict
says the wildly defensive person participating in the habit bad for their brain and body
>>696147487
And I don't give a fuck. Like you said, it's my choice to live my life as I please. So fuck off, I'm not joining your shitty jonestown cult.
>>696147487
We don't care. Humanity is retarded and can die. I don't give a fuck.
>muh think of your children
I'm on 4chan, do you really think I want/can have children ? Think again Autismo.
>>696139649
Nigger consider that snails and any single insect, bird and every fertilizer that were put on vegetables are covered in shit.
We -all- eat shit daily.
>>696139319
The concept of rebirth is stupid, and even more stupid on your part if you're not religious which is most likely the case.
>>696147627
>holds vegans to highest possible standards to prove his point
Sounds fair. Asshole.
>>696147067
OR eat a balanced diet to begin with. Most of the common vitamin deficiencies in vegan diets are pretty easy to cover.
Even if you had to take a mountain of supplements, vegan diets would still be better (in this circumstance, not for health reasons, but for environmental impact). At least you wouldn't be contributing to a unsustainable culture of animal agriculture.
>>696147743
Not religious, deeply philosophical.
Consider this. How the fuck does nothing look like? Can you imagine nothing?
So how can you claim nothingness exists when you can't imagine is?
Before you claim it's a bad argument (which you will most likely do anyway), try and actually imagine nothing for a while.
>veganism is unhealthy
Nice claim bro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX58PyQwrcI
>>696147964
Yes, nothing looks like a lack of something.
Next question.
Can someone explain to me why vegetarians are pretty cool but why vegans are retarded assholes that dont get the fact that no one gives a shit about their stupid agenda and they live in a fairy tale
>>696136465
protein? nah.... muh fats, gl with your low testosterone vegan goals of 2016 while I eat delicious meat
>>696148067
>posts a youtube link
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>696148120
They're delirious from the lack of meat and sanity.
>>696147651
It's your life to live as you please, until your actions make it shitty for everyone else, in which case you're much more the invasive one than I am.
Also, funny how you're the one accusing me of being cult-like when you've done nothing but react with anger rather than approach the issue pragmatically.
>>696136465
hahaha this manlet 171 cm? that's what you get for eating grass
>>696148168
Maybe watch it? Or is that above you, your highness?
This whole "Eat this to live longer" and "Avoid this to be healthy" is getting stupid. If you feel the need to argue or instigate based on your diet choices, you aren't happy with yourself.
>>696147802
>expecting people who want other people to fundamentally change their lifestyles because of a particular set of values to live by those values themsleves
>high standards
Not really.
>>696142123
Human's may not have evolved to eat raw meat but we sure did adapt to be able to consume it and thrive from it. Tens of thousands of years of human history show humans using chemistry (e.g. fire, acids, and bases) and tools to make all food more viable. Truth is eating food without any processing (like cooking) often leads to all sorts of problems (e.g. vitamin deficiencies and parasites). So its important to face a hard truth, humans are not easily comparable to other species because we have developed far and away from the other species and now have very specialized needs. For instance, if a human only foraged for fruit, he would not be able to meet dozens of nutritional requirements (e.g. protein and omega 3). So what would the human do? Start eating insects. So just let go of the idea we humans can do without certain things, its really a form of pointless and dangerous asceticism.
That said, preference is fine so long as it does not masquerade as Truth or the only way people should eat. Mind you I do not eat meat but I am no fool, so I do not deny myself eggs or dairy, if I am so inclined to eat them. If cricket meal becomes a inexpensive thing, I may give it a try, given its supposed to taste nutty rather than like blood and sinew (which I just do not like the taste of).
>>696147675
I got a vasectomy a few years ago, so I'm not doing it for my own children. If you really don't care that much, why did you bother responding?
>>696148120
if you personally perceive people doing half measured crap as such then probably you will find vegetarians """pretty cool"""
i am expecting no less of the average /b/channer and i ain't even vegan m8
>>696145115
He knows Anime isn't real though...
>>696139649
don't eat ground beef that in contaminated with fecal matter!, eat plants that are literally grown in shit!!
strong logic
>>696136465
Lol fucking 171cm, fucking manlette. No wonder he lifts, gotta compensate for being such a shortarse xD
Im eating enchelades right now blue apron is a baller service
>>696148229
I'm far from angry. Just because I don't speak meekly like you doesn't mean I'm angry.
And that's where you're also wrong. I genuinely don't give a fuck other people.
>>696136465
>171 cm
>manlett
>>696147964
I'll imagine nothing for a while - a state where you feel, see nothing. Like the way you feel in a deep sleep phase - you don't think, you don't remember, you feel NOTHING.
After i'm done i wanna point out that your argument is shit.
Just because you can't comprehend something with your human brain it doesn't mean it can't exist.
We can't even imagine numbers much larger then 10 without the resorting to a form of abstraction called math.
There is no reason to assume that there is an afterlife.
>>696139649
do you understand the regulatory temperature that clams cook meat to in Mcdonalds? oh you probably don't know about facts do you, fucking plebeian
>>696136465
>171cm
What a fucking midget
>>696148090
It's not a fucking item, it's a state. It's the same fucking thing that happens when you're unconscious you aren't aware of your surroundings. It's the lack of awareness / things themselves.
>>696142846
/thread
>>696148501
Pardon me then.
Also, if that's how you feel, what's the point in even arguing?
>>696148326
Veganism means you don't eat any animal products. Whatever other standards you think vegans collectively have is fuelled purely by your massive amount of misinformation about what veganism fucking is.
>>696136465
my gastrointestinal disease prevents me from digesting most fruit and vegetables, i have to stick with meat, especially fish.
>>696148642
Someone got triggered pretty hard.
Everything you just said coincides with what I said. Quit being an angry little bitch and learn to read
>>696136465
>20xx
>not using steroids to boost testosterone
HA okay bud if you want any facts please let me know i've done personal training and have some information on the topics bud ;)
must be vegan gains making a troll 4chan post
I'm not vegan because i literally don't give a flying fuck about being vegan.
You only get one life, you should at least enjoy what you eat :L
>>696148878
I quoted the wrong person, cunt.
>>696148716
I enjoy arguing.
It's one of the few things in life that I throughly enjoy.
>>696148786
>Veganism means you don't eat any animal products
that is eating vegan. living vegan goes a bit further and then usually to the extent the individual can stomach for themself. shoes, make up products, cleaners, cigarettes, you name it. if you were to take it 100% full force hard line you obviously would need to live in a shed, self supporting
>>696148518
Why does anything exist? Why isn't `reality`, or whatever it would be called, just a blank void of empty nothingness, stretching in every direction or the lack of direction?
Something exists. That's my first claim.
My second claim is that if something exists, nothing cannot exist.
Therefore reincarnation.
That's my reasoning.
>>696148942
You're still a triggered little cuntbag.
Take a lap.
>>696148786
If the daily slaughter of countless helpless animals for the sake of convenience is perfectly fine, why shouldn't I eat animals?
>>696136465
who cares where dude gets his protein from, I wanna know where he gets his test and dbol from
>>696149037
deep
>>696136465
>171 cm
>>696148547
>it's ok because the shit we eat is cooked at the proper temperature
My favorite kind of food is veal
>>696149011
funfact:
if everyone tried to do this we'd need more land than earth has because self support from an own garden is highly inefficient when compared to industrial foodproduction
>>696142123
We once gave meat to cows. They caught a big sickness.
I remember all the times I ate meat. I'm still in good health tho.
>>696148384
>Autismo is a it again.
I don't give a fuck about Humanity dying. I didn't say I don't give a fuck about everything.>>696148415
>>696149185
How do you prepare it?
>>696143986
http://www.janegoodall.ca/about-chimp-behaviour-diet.php
Omnivores, retard. They eat meat.
>>696149387
Didn't want to tag in the last one.
>>696149037
That goes back to the old "Nothing is something but, something can never be nothing." Its a great argument for reincarnation and the after life but it lacks a way to argue against its own flaws. Leading to its own eventual philosophical corruption.
>>696149037
Not even sure what i'm supposed to answer to this...
well
Good for you.
>>696149153
as apposed to "washed" vegetables grown in literal fecal matter right?
this thread's bait level is atheist-tier
>>696149392
I ususally cook it on the gril with a milk carton near by so as it cooks i can drink what should have gone to it
>>696148547
I'm not a vegan and even I know you must be retarded.
>>696149496
I agree, it's not falsifiable, therefore it can't really stand on its own. But I still see the validity of it. Life is strange like that.
>>696136465
>>20XX
>>not being retard
>>696149153
most things contaminated with feces are vegetables. no matter what kind of diet you have, you have a chance of eating shit. meat is cooked which kills the bacteria though, whereas many eat vegetables raw after a quick rinse. the feces argument really doesn't hold up. the vegan diet is very unhealthy without all sorts of supplements though, so I'd rather eat a diet in which I don't have to eat pills in order to get my minimum daily nutrition.
>>696149682
Waste not, want not
>>696149615
It's not a problem to take the bait in those cases because even if OP is trolling, you can still have interesting discussion and learn from different point of view
>>696142846
It tastes good, I need protein nignog
>>696149613
Vegetables don't contain fecal matter.
Unwashed vegetables contain traces of it. Washed vegetables are mostly completely free of them.
>>696149359
When animals are fed its own species aka cannabalism they get a prion disease called spongiform encephalopathy - in the case of cows it's mad cow disease. In humans it's called kuru.
Feeding cows chicken or pig meat would be fine.
Rule of thumb - don't eat your own kind, and you'll be fine.
>>696142525
Actually you don't need to consume life forms. We have the necessary pills and supplements needed to sustain a mineral based diet and we can now produce artificial vitamin C. It will be expensive but you can do it right now.
>strong"man"
>171cm tall
Pick one
>>696136465
it didnt really answer the question. Unless vegans get it from that guy
I'm really tired of people using this image as a pro-vegan statement. The strongest Vegan in the world isn't even a strong amateur tier strongman, is only the strongest man in a country where strongman is unpopular. His numbers don't even approach within 20% of the best in the world where winning is the difference between a few kilos much less being more than 50kg behind. On top of it all they are pulling out his 215kg bench and 320kg deadlift like is so crazy when there are men half his size with better lifts.
>>696149885
Washed meat, oddly enough, also contains no traces of it.
It's like water cleans things off.
Wow.
>>696149912
Well you can eat human meat just not the brain thats what will fuck you up
>>696150022
171 cm tall is 5'6" im all for meat but he isnt that short
>>696150098
Nope. Any part of the human leads to prion disease - eating the brain speeds it up is all.
>>696150043
it's just like magic!
>>696150043
Good, now all that's left to do is wash the insides of the meat.
Dumbass
Vegans can go eat poo for all I care.
>>696149613
>>696149885
This is something that I never considered. Vegetables are produced using animal products.
Ethically, what's the difference between food that's produced using animal products and food that contains animal products?
>>696150022
I feel like you don't know a man's average height.
>Inb4 Google comes to the rescue
>>696150178
you seriously don't reckon 5'6" is that short? I'd consider 5'7" and anything below child height
>>696150188
Oh ok i just thought it was only brain you learn something new everyday even in the dumbest places thank you
>>696136465
what does he eat then?
>>696150253
You're right I don't know, without googling isn't it like 5'9" though? I honestly don't believe the average height is 5'9" in 2016. atleast not in my country (australia).
>>696150298
I mean im 5'9" i dont really think anything in but then again i just turned 18 so what do i know
>>696150253
>claiming 5"7 is a normal height.
MANLETS
KEK
5"10 to 6"2 is normal height for guys. Any shorter and you're a dirty manlet.
>>696146310
>highschool weightlifting class
>weightlifting class
>class
Means nothing. Do it because you want to not because you have to. join a sport or something faggot shitskin
>>696150214
Simple tip - don't eat store bought ground meat. That's how the matter gets "in" the meat.
It's on the surface when ground up.
Buy your meat, give it a quick rinse, and grind it yourself. It's not fucking difficult if your not a fucking helpless retard or a lazy fuck.
>>696150298
I'm guessing you're from Central United states but on the coast average height is under five feet do to condensed living conditions.
>>696139649
>doesn't enjoy the piquant flavors imparted by fecal matter
>>696150442
In the 5'6" range *
>>696150505
Think again my friend, I'm from Australia
>>696136465
>standing 171 cm tall
>171 cm
>tall
HAHA OH WOW
>>696150482
>Implying I didn't lift outside of school or after I graduated
Also, only athletes were allowed to join weightlifting so there's that.
Bit good job friendo.
>>696150474
what he said
>>696150320
Yeah. You can get away with it maybe a few times, depending on amount, but like some native tribes that have ritual cannabalism even small amounts add up over time.
>>696150474
i agree with this very much. Thank you
>>696142846
>You didn't choose to eat meat, your parents did that for you.
>I'm making my own fucking choices.
>Implying that you are not just another brick in the wall just like everyone else.
>>696150474
claiming 5"7 is a normal height.
>MANLETS
>KEK
>5"10 to 6"2 is normal height for guys. Any shorter and you're a dirty manlet.
there goes the Google goggles. Well if you must know I'm actually 5, 11. I'm saying that he is normal height because he lives in a suburban area where people are shorter than in the countryside.
>>696150646
And I wasn't disagreeing with him.
>>696140872
Still not the strongest though.
>>696150645
>a class only athletes can join
sounds like a shitty ass school
and yes i am implying that
>Bit
>>696150545
Nothing beats the taste of seared cow patty in your patty.
>Asians will conquer the world and are the master race:
1) They invented everything we use: rockets, paper, forks, guns, working vertical flight (unlike davinci), wheels, writing (which Greece copied from Mongoloid Mesopotamia) and manufacture everything today. Chong engineering splodes German bs to hell.
>2) The Chinese never abused their absolute power over the Philippines, willing tributary States (Vietnam, Korea, Tibet); all was peaceful until Euraberica began mettling with failed proxy wars.
3) The Japanese were beyond honorable in how they treated their conquered subjects, even released and paid POWs for their labor... until they friended Germany in ww2.
>4) These 3 Chongs never unnecessarily nor independently decided to ravage/exploit the shit out of a foreign land like the Dutch in Africa or Spain, Portugal n USA in America's.
5) in Africa, China has been building schools, hospitals, infrastructure while employing Africans instead of shoving in bibles, taking their food, diamonds, etc.
>6) During natural disaster they all work together to make sure everyone lives; there's no price gouging Jews or Rambo thieves.
7) their marriage + infidelity rates are far lower than Euraberica, where lifestyles cause middleage men to commit suicide and die poor.
>8) Their media isn't as depraved as ours, e.g. tosh.o's 'black dildo fight' where a young boy got raped and In his other videos ppl get killed.
9) they actually get shit done instead of working 1 half hour or 2 half hour a day like in Ameroupe.
>10) Highest IQs, lowest crime rate. Their lit doesn't glorify murder, suicide, crying over destiny, cheating or wallowing in sorrow - respectively, Shakespeare, oedipus, and western poetry)
11) Never invaded the middle east for false flags like 9/11 and nukes (occupation kills 100,000s of innocents+created enemies RN)
>12) No Abrahamic morality or western laws to stop their already-made progress in human biological engineering.
I'm not racist just honest
>>696150785
I didn't go on google friendo. That's common fucking knowledge.
>>696136465
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7InRmTGU0Hg
>>696142846
>You dislike veganism because something inside you knows it's the right thing.
no, i dislike veganism because of cunts like you
>>696150944
also this man is not a vegan
>>696142846
Look another person who thinks he's fucking out of the crowd.
I bet that B+ in your high school psychology class is really taking you far
>>696136465
i eat meat cause it tastes good. deal with it!
>>696150835
Nah, the coach thay taught the class didn't want freshman running around, and shitting up the place. But I played baseball all 4 years of high school and still lift 6 days a week now that I'm out of high school. I kept the gains train chugging.
>>696148518
what's the very next thing after a deep sleep during which you felt NOTHING? you wake up. death my last for a billion years, but the very next moment you will be aware of will be your existence. fag
>>696148547
how awesome is it that you know these things...
>>696136465
>body builder
>builds body
>vegan
that's why the cunt only benches 215k
also, germany needs to unfuck itself if it's strongest man is an iranian vegan
>>696151130
Sweet dude
>>696151241
lmfao
>>696151241
see >>696150944
nigga dead lifts 450 kg
>>696142846
>I'm making my own fucking choices.
im choosing to eat meat
how fucking hard is it for you retarded vegan faggots
>>696139649
yeah?? and a properly tossed salad tastes like shit too.
![clap[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/5IdX01N.gif "clap[1].gif")
>>696141596
>Either case, don't judge the forest from a tree
so, what was OP's argument again?
Oh yeah, exactly that + "It's the current year"
>>696150933
Wrong thread, nigger.
I'm not a vegan because I'm very unhealthily underweight (17.5 BMI, 18.5 is considered underweight) and despite several attempts, because of medical reasons, there is little to nothing I can do about it. Considering I'm already starting to have intestinal probblems, along with my other medical issues, this body will probably flatline by 40.
>>696151493
but br0 that is a shit argument !!!111
They can't get it through their fucking head. I don't know what makes them more mad, the fact you disagree with them, or that you don't want to waste time arguing with them
>>696151493
Same reason a junkie chooses to do heroin?
Same way a smoker chooses to smoke?
Same way a coffee drinker chooses too oozes every morning on his black liquid he claims is not a drug?
If you actually choose to eat meat, then here's an experiment. Try veganism or vegetarianism for a month. You can do a month, right? Then choose eating meat again and then you're off the hook.
You can't make a choice between 2 things when you only know 1 thing.
So Vegans have to take protein supplements?
kinda silly don't you think? why not just eat meat.
>>696141833
>meant
hey god, can i get that plane of existence now you raging faggot retard
>>696152151
explain our teeths.
explain our digestive tract.
If our bodies were not evolved into digesting meet, we wouldn't do it.
But we are, so we do.
And in a modern world, there are simply no hunting grounds big enough to feed the whole population, so we - like every other need we have - industrialized it.
Deal with it.
>>696152455
check'd and true.
>>696152088
you are comparing apples to oranges there retard
if you want strength why would you eat stuff with less fat
>>696152127
Not really. The only thing vegans should worry about is B12. With a healthy and balanced vegan diet you get everything else in excess.
Even B12 wouldn't be a problem if you were to resort to eating unwashed veggies or fruit. But then you risk getting a disease, so it's better to eat a B12 supplement here and there. Even so, the reserves of B12 last for years in your body.
>>696136465
I don't want to be like Patrik Baboumian
>>696152595
You're the retard, you just keep acting like an obnoxious junkie.
One month of veganism won't hurt you in any way. Why do you rage at the very idea?
Because you're a fucking addict, that's why.
>>696152653
>The best sources of Vitamin B12 include: eggs, milk, cheese, milk products, meat, fish, shellfish and poultry
googled B12.
why not just eat meat. if your body needs it and you can get it easily from meat then aren't you just punishing your body?
>>696152653
>eating unwashed vegies or fruit.
So you say, the natural way is to digest animal lives (small insects in this case)?
You just proved his point.
>>696152455
We have the teeth and digestive track of an omnivore.
Stop being retarded.
>>696142123
if we evolved to eat fruits and what not why do we have canines then?, because only omnivores and carnovores have them
>>696148467
top kek
>>696152742
Put down your trigger-goggles.
I had multiple months of vegan diet, due to financially hard times.
After these times, meat never had tasted better.
I literally felt like shit before I could eat healthy again.
>>696136465
>boby builder
>boby
I think you need more essential fats, OP.
>>696139319
you dont act like it nigga
>>696136465
Ok...but where do you get your protein from?
>>696136465
I just had these tonight :) they taste like spicey frankfurts. Definitely would reccomend. I had not had bangers beans n mash in a long time until tonight. It was quite special
>>696152742
More like he enjoys a full, satisfying diet and not being a cuck.
Red meat is tasty and boosts your testosterone levels. Fish is full of nourishing fatty acids. Tofu, meanwhile, is full of phytoestrogens and tastes like shit.
>>696153065
So say so and don't be an obnoxious ass during a conversation.
I respect your opinion if it's an actual opinion you decided on and not just the cultural tag-along that 99% of people are doing. Surely you can understand the problem with majorities?
>>696152901
and what is a omnivore?
A animal which feeds on both meat and plants.
A healthy human diet consists of both.
Even this faggot agrees on that
>>696152653
Even tho he lacks the self-awareness to understand that he just confirmed it.
I guess it has something to do with brain-damage, caused by a lack of meat in his diet, kek.
>>696142123
I'm sorry, but that's a chimp.
Chimpanzees are not only omnivorous, but they're pack hunters, and one of only three species observed killing just for the fun of it.
>>696153065
Did it make you feel il eating meat again? I went 9 or so months without animal products and ate a lasagna one night from impulse. My stomach was fat with gluttony and I felt seedy
>>696137493
You're fucking stupid lol, you really think in a near infinite expansive universe, and even outside of this, and higher dimensions where time doesn't exist means you stop living?
You might get a new body and brain with no memories, and that's assuming you can't exist and experience things without one, but you don't cease to exist.
>>696153239
I don't care what you want to see in me or what arguments you accept or not.
Your point is flawed, and it doesn't take "the 1%" to point that out, retard.
>>696153357
That sounds like a reduced form of the reaction that victims of malnutrition have to rich food.
>>696153444
trips speak the truth
>>696136465
I'm not vegan, I'm vegetarian.
We can work alongside animals and still use products made from them without harming them - cows still need to be milked, sheep still need sheering, eggs are still produced in abundance.
Avoiding the slaughter of animals however is something I believe we're working towards as humans.
The major point of vegetarianism is that while yes, your body is designed to be able to process meat, your body doesn't require it.
Since you don't require it, you can go without killing another creature.
>Its just an animal
All life is sacred and should be cherished - not being willing to change is on you, not us.
>We omnivores
Which means we can eat either meat or veggies, you aren't an obligate omnivore.
>They're just stupid animals, they even kill each other!
Naturalistic fallacy to begin with.
Also if they're just dumb animals and you're so great because you're a human, why are you still required to kill like savage beasts in order to eat when you have alternatives made available?
You can't be both better and the same as them.
>Muh taste
>Muh free country
You have the capacity, as a human being of sound mind and free will, to stop causing the slaughter of innocent creatures that stand no honorable chance of fighting back - you have the ability to be better, don't choose not to.
>>696153145
Do you ever get worried about the oceans pollution when eating fish and that the fish may be contaminated with myriads of potentially harmful waste?
>>696153357
you get diarrhea for a day, since your digestive tract isn't used to it anymore.
After that, I started to feel energetic and fit again.
Before that I had months of literally depressive mood, simply because my glands weren't producing the neural transmitters needed to feel motivated.
>>696153496
But animals don't matter compared to humans.
>inb4 you wouldn't eat your dog
No, because I know my dog and I care about him, and dog meat tastes like shit. I get more out of his companionship than I would out of eating him. Cattle and chickens, on the other hand, are kind of shitty pets, and make far better eating than dogs.
>>696153680
Well I'm glad to hear that you are feeling better now. I hope your experience didn't leave a foul taste in mind when thinking of a plant based diet.
>>696153672
Not really. I don't make a habit of eating high-mercury fish, and that's an externality whereas the massive cuckening that you get from soy is built into the food.
>>696153848
>chickens, on the other hand, are kind of shitty pets
This guy sailed around the world alone with nothing but his pet chicken.
>>696153848
Your value of life is your own, the majority of people feel sympathy and emotions.
You don't eat your dog because you feel emotions for him, you eat cattle and poultry because you've been desensitized to their suffering all your life.
Its not a big deal by design, its easier to stuff you full of meat if you don't associate the product with the origin.
While it is just my opinion, I feel it holds true that all life matters, and it shouldn't be up to us whether someone or some animal lives or dies.
No god gave me that power.
>>696154120
Better pic
>>696154136
>you've been desensitized to their suffering
No, because their suffering doesn't matter to me. Subtle but important distinction. It's for the same reason I care more about a suffering family member than I do about some random starving nogs halfway around the world: One is close to home and one is not.
Universalism is for faggots, and livestock are for eating.
>>696154231
>>696154120
I stand corrected about the chickens, then.
>>696154023
True. I wasn't aware some fish contain more Mercury then others aswell, I'll have a look into that with interest. Haha soy isn't so bad though. If you buy bland products, you'll be eating bland food. Just gotta be knowledgable on the product and how to cook nice meals. It works both ways with animal products, you buy shit, you'll eat shit
>>696139649
what do you think fertilizer is made of ya dumb cunt?
>>696145115
>Says the fag posting on an online gardening blog about Vietnamese coloring books
>>696154419
Well, your lack of empathy isn't a positive character trait in any way, I hope you're aware.
You are the minority in that regard though - hopefully you'll realize why that point of view is so fucked up.
>>696154481
It's true. You could probably eat better on well-prepared soy than on shitty meats, but when meat is so easy to get it's not so much of an issue.
I'll never knock beans and rice or mac and cheese, but chicken is good to prepare as well.
>>696153994
Doesn't need a foul taste in my mind to know that this diet is unhealthy & needs artificial Supplements.
I could live with being vegetarian.
At least then I still could eat cheese, eggs, and drink milk.
Even tho I think vegetarians are pansies, at least their diet is reasonable.
But vegans?
Not only do they dismiss scientific facts for #alllivesmatter they are the most obnoxious faggots who will never shut up and accept other people making their private decision about their diet.
They only accept one truth and will never shut up about it.
I had a vegan group of friends once.
I don't miss them.
I also have a vegetarian friend. Best buddies.
He doesn't miss the vegans either.
Not only are their points flawed, they are usually really shitty humans.
And if I look into this thread, and look into how self-righteous the vegans here make their points, I feel once more approved in my opinion about them.
>>696136465
Fucking manlet
>>696154585
I'd call your inability to distinguish between in-groups and out-groups a bigger character flaw than my supposed lack of empathy.
It's childish to try to spread your care evenly when things closer to you clearly merit greater concern.
I suffer from protein deficiency, I'm allergic to soy, and my body rejects pills. So yes, I literally NEED meat to survive.
>>696153496
>naturalistic fallacy
>all life is sacred and should be cherished
>naturalistic fallacy
>>696136875
Reincarnation is seriously some of the dumbest shit that flat out can't be defended.
>>696155047
Don't waste your time.
These people will never recognize their own double-think.
>>696153441
>reincarnation exists, you just aren't you, have no memories, and aren't in any way similar to yourself.
Fuck off.
You vegans and vegetarians make me sick.
You're literally killing the planet by trying to enforce no meat.
Livestock release greenhouse gases that cause global warming, and they eat oxygen producing plants to survive - just like you fucks.
So, not only are you stealing our oxygen supply to feed yourselves, but you're wanting even more, bigger animals to continue to roam around and do it too with no checks and balances with predators - predators which has been all but eliminated in today's world.
Congratufuckinglations, assholes. You're wanting to turn the planet into a carbon dioxide and methane rich wasteland so you and your 4 legged friends can graze away all day.
Fuck you - I'm doing my part to kill off the animals and eat them to save the world so we can reduce greenhouse gases and have plenty of oxygen producing plants to save all our lives.
You assholes make me sick. I hope you choke on your kale.
>>696155598
kek
>>696154756
I'd say that is debatable about a plant based diet being unhealthy. It's just as an omnivore diet, it potentially can be if you aren't eating what your body desires. And it's tricky to know because things are deceptive.
I would prefer to exclude dairy rather than meat myself, if I had to choose. That sucks about your encounters with your vegan friends too.
When you see things on the news about some radical Muslim who has hurt innocent people I imagine you don't think every Muslim is a terrorist. I think that principal should be applied to veganism. It seems you have just met cunts man
>>696153441
Your consciousness is what makes you you, and that is a product of the brain. Last time i checked the brain stops working when you die.
>>696156013
Except all Muslims are terrorist supporters if not terrorists themselves, and can lie about it in the name of their religion.
>>696147954
extensive farming of crops is as bad for the the area as extensive farming of animals, both when done to the point needed to feed a population of decent size, one way is more ethical to animals one is not
>>696156380
But a random animal matters less than a random person.
If an individual human or human society as a whole reaches greater heights through the death of animals, then there are worse things.
>>696136465
I don't care enough about myself to be vegan.
And I can only muster a lmimited amount of compassion in general. I reserve that for creatures of my own species, rather than fuck a bunny or whatever it is vegans do.
>>696136465
No one cares that you don't eat meat cuck. Cow taste good.
>>696156247
You understand what I meant. Being prejudice is irrational
>>696156863
Yes, vegans are terrorists.
We understood.
>>696136465
Sorry, 190kg is not the record. Zydrunas Savickas did 451 lbs == 205kg in WSM 2015 finals.
>>696156863
But it isn't.
Statistics aren't a sound basis for drawing definite conclusions, but it's better to narrow down the possibilities rather than walk around blind because your thought process might not be completely logical.
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>>696136875
Enjoy living this life and having nobody care about you.
>>696153145
tofu also has all the nutrients pressed out
>>696156942
Good. The message has gone through. My time here is done, I can now leave in peace
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>>696142123
>horse
>walk in 4 paws
golf clap for you my friend
>>696157110
thousands of non vegans have died on everest, and just a few weeks after here death a vegan made it to the top.
regardless she was a female so she had a physical handicap to begin with.
Whats your point? because she died from extreme conditions that humans are not designed for, that means a vegan diet is bad?
>>696156013
If I see a muslim terrorists on the news, I know that they live up 100% to the teachings of their holy book.
Check out "the masked arab" on yt.
He's a arabic ex-muslim atheist, going into full detail about explaining Islam on his channel.
For me every muslim is a potential threat. And considering that 52% of muslims living in the UK are willing to ban gays, I can be sure to not be a racist in order to recognize them for what they are.
I feel no racial prejudices against people from the middle east. But if they subscribe to Islam, I make sure to always carry concealed around them.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/apr/11/british-muslims-strong-sense-of-belonging-poll-homosexuality-sharia-law
And "cunts" are people who dismiss reality in order to maintain their imaginative comfy zone of love and tolerance, so you - even if you try your hardest do be polite - fall under this definition in my perception.
>>696137493
>>696157326
you say it like /pol/ wasn't successful in their quest of getting the majority of /b/ to agree that fags should be banned
>>696157509
I don't care about /pol/.
That's a containment board.
>inb4 /b/ is a containment board as well.
Don't worry, I am aware of that.
>>696157509
/pol/ wants fags in the closet.
Muslims want fags in coffins.
>>696157509
>>696157639
Also, I don't want fags banned.
I want trap-fags to admit they are gay and live on with it.
They display reality-dismissive levels equal to that of vegans.
>>696157447
bahahahaaa
>>696157753
Trapfags aren't really gay, though.
I mean, some of them are. But most of them are just bisexuals in denial or degenerate straightfags.
>>696139649
i dont get the issue here, it's just gonna become fecal matter anyway
>>696157753
Trapfags are so deluded that theres no point in trying to get them to admit to their faggotry. The level of self-denial is astounding
>>696148716
Letting retards like you know they're retards is fun.
>>696136465
>20XX
>giving a shit about what people like to eat
B-b-but muh huealthy!!1one
can you meat aters please spend some time to get informed of where your meals come from and what are the consequences of that?
please watch this doc,than eat WHATEVER you want:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch5SiGaAF5k
>>696136465
>20XX
>not being a cuck
everybody knows OP is a gangley skinny faggot that has to enforce his vegan agenda every 2 minutes so he can feel so good about himself.
>>696157996
using morals won't work here.
>>696157996
nigger no one is going to watch your stupid bullshit. we all know what mechanically separated chicken looks like and how it is made. eat shit.
>>696157858
being bi means to be attracted to both sexes.
50% of their attraction is gay.
If anything, I do them a service to admit that and accept who they are.
I mean, look at them.
Ever 20min a new thread pops up, asking the same stupid question.
"Is loving feminine dicks gay?"
Yes, yes it is, and now get on with your life and accept who or what you are, else it's only a matter of time before SJW's come along and tell you that you are some demi-goddess or some shit.
And from that point on, it's a long road down, full of projection and misery.
Trapfags are gay.
As soon as they accept that, they continue to perform as decent human beings in all other regards of their lives.
>>696158227
>"Is loving feminine dicks gay?"
I think that's a meme, though. Anyone who actually asks that knows the answer is yes.
>>696157996
I've seen all that shit. I have butchered my own food. So yeah. Kiss my ass fucking vegan pussy.
>>696156644
yeah i'm just making a point that extensive farming of animals is no worse then extensive farming of an area for crops
>>696153354
Whats the third?
>>696158340
You'd be surprised.
This board is overrun with fag trolls, true.
But the emotionally weak NEETs come here as well to compensate for their lonely lives.
>>696158370
"Schlachtfest" - Slaughterfest.
My favorite german tradition
(and I'm sure other nations have their equivalent as well)
>>696153441
sir, u re rlly stupid
>>696158441
Dolphins.
I'm not even kidding.
Creepy bastards, always smiling and shit.
>>696157326
I certainly will check it out.
You have me searching for something to say back to that last part. I don't know if it is correct for myself or not. it may be, it may not be. But I do know I'm much happier if I don't eat animal products though, so I try to avoid it.
>>696158781
Who gives a shit? You're vegan? Good for you, shut the fuck up. You eat meat? Good for you, shut the fuck up.
> going on /b/
> expecting basement dwelling keyboard warriors who eat frozen pizza and McDonald's all day to understand anything beyond "muh meet"
fuck off faggit
we don't need education
>>696136465
Studies show over half of the vegans lie, They do eat meat usually drunk.
Also you can't feed the whole planet with vegan food. If we tried that, which 2 billion people would you let to die of starvation?
>>696156380
You're a bit special aren't you?
You need to farm crops to feed the animals and suddenly need 10 times more space because of it.
I love meat as much as the next guy (gimme a medium steak and I'm happy man), but I'm under no illusion that keeping livestock is not only ruining our environment but also our bodies.
>>696159599
> studies show
Ha! Such an internet sentence. Show me those peer reviewed papers m8
>>696158936
Getting along with people is pretty simple:
As long as their decisions don't interfere with your lifestyle, accept their right to make them.
And as long as your decisions don't interfere with my lifestyle, I will accept your right to make them as well.
Share your opinions in civil discussions. And that EXCLUDES attempts to snitch the moral high ground.
Moral is subjective, and you can be sure to collide with people around you, if you attempt to dictate what is the moral thing to do and what is not.
Nothing is inherently good or bad, unless it messes with our health, personal freedom or freedom of speech.
So, under this regard:
If you feel like eating vegan and are willing to deal with the consequences, feel free to do so.
If I feel like eating meat and are willing to deal with the consequences, that is my freedom in action as well.
>>696159814
Took me 3 seconds to google it, Don't be a little bitch.
>>696150218
Bad fwuffies num bad poopies
>>696147743
There is always something somewhere. Im sure you.re great at making idiots think you.re clever but seriously guy. Stop the act. You.re not cool and enigmatic, you.re a fucking trilby wearing neckbeard.
>>696160173
>>696159814
not that anon, but googled it anyways.
Conservative article, so potentially biased, but a peer-reviewed source is at the bottom.
http://conservationmagazine.org/2016/03/can-vegans-really-save-planet/
>171 cm tall.
>>696159599
depending on what meat you´re talking about you need about 10 pounds of (vegan) food to get 1 pound of meat. the amount of food that our food eats is the main reason so many people are starving
>>696136465
>Muh protein
Aw neat generalizations I can do that too
All vegans love getting bukkaked
>>696160392
Btw, before any vegan here makes false assumptions:
these numbers only work if all lifestock DISAPPEARS over night.
If we co-exist, their methane output would still be there, and we wouldn't have enough aggricultural space to allow them to graze AND feed ourselves.
So what you're asking for is mass-extinction of cattle and THEN continue to feed the world agriculturally.
>>696139649
>What is fertilizer
Are you actually trying to look as retarded as possible? Why the fuck am i mad about this holy shit fuck you for being such a dumb mother fucker
>>696136465
Because I don't hold myself up on a pedestal and judge other people's diets, you raging faggot.
>>696153441
Well reincarnation does exist within a finite universe. With a finite number of atoms and other particles there's only so many combinations untill the whole thing starts over again. So you're right in a way but you're making to many assumptions without a scientific basis.
>>696136465
Bet he wasn't Vegan while he was building up his strength.
Oh right, protein powder shakes.
Made out of protein.
Which is taken from meat products.
>>696136465
>2016
>still shitposting on /b/
>>696136465
Serious reply here...
I'm a huge animal lover, i feed all the cats in my neighborhood , i donate to animal shelters, and every chance i get to help an animal - i take it.
However, i don't see anything wrong with eating animals we were supposed to eat, like cows, pigs, etc..
I think that humans, even though are more intelligent than other animals, still deserve to enjoy the food chain just like any other predators.
The fact that we don't go out and hunt them ourselves mean nothing, because if humans weren't meant to eat meat - they wouldn't do it millions of years ago, and to this day forward.
>>696147346
underrated post
>>696142525
No that's not it. I've been a vegetarian for 3 years. I am certainly not against eating meat if it's fresh and cooked well it's fucking delicious same goes for fish/shellfish but the way the meat industry is producing meat now is fucked up. Your ground beef is getting pumped full of antibiotics to make sure they don't get sick from the horrible living conditions, all packed together. These antibiotics leave traces in the meat after it's been packed and processed wich in turn makes it possible for you to become resistant to certain antibiotics through eating your delicious steak. Secondly these are all sentient animals that are living cramped up in enormous buildings all huddled together and panicking from the smallest of things wich is the reason pigs get their tales cut off and chicks get there beaks burned of to prevent them from picking eachother to shit. That's some holocaust shit right there. Thirdly, the amounts of meat packaged in the supermarket are unhealthy as fuck. I mean red meat can cause colon cancer if you eat to much of it. They advise you to eat a max of 200-250 grams of red meat a day while one portion of steak is easily 350-500 grams of meat. And lastly the meat industry is proven to be the biggest pollutor in the world. It collectively pumps more Co2 in the air than all of the cars in the world combined if we all woud start eating meat maybe once or twice a week they wouldn't have to stuff so many animals together wich would result in better living conditions so they don't have to be mutilated and pumped full of drugs anymore and with fewer animals there's fewer Co2 pollution and the quality of the meat will increase enormously cause of the animals living more stressfree and having the abbility to walk around more than 1 square meter. The only reason i don't eat meat is because consumerism is comletely destroying the world.
>>696162490
gr8 b8 m8 i r8 it b8/8
>>696147647
There's nothing wrong with not eating meat dude. Are you suggesting you get ill from taking meat out of your diet? I haven't eaten meat in years and i am proven to be healthy by medical examinations. I don't even take supplements but thats because i do eat cheese and eggs wich have the same vitamins and proteins that are in meat. Like vitamin b12 for example. If you do worry about defficiancies you could just eat a lot of nuts and you don't have to worry about a thing.
>>696150178
>he isnt that short
the average height for men is 6'1 here, and I live right next to germany.
it's short for a man, it would be average for a woman.
>>696147627
Since when is driving a car meant for killing insects? Is slaughtering animals in slaughterhouses meant for anything else than meat processing in your worldview? Don't make strawman posts man it makes you seem fucking stupid.
>>696136465
You niggerfaces just can't shut your dicktraps, right?
>does the lion kills his pray in a "humane" way?
no
>"but-but he's an animal and.."
so are you dipshit, they've evolved claws and sharp teeth to hunt down their pray we've evolved the brains to do it
>"b-but you're a frugivore!"
So are chips, and they have been observed to eat meat plenty of times. A bear's main diet consists of fruits, but when there's nothing else around they do eat meat of course
Oh, and by the way herbivores evolved AFTER carnivores, because it takes a way better digetive system and extracting calories from your shitty leaves is hard
