Why do you want to ban every citizen from owning a gun?
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Why do you want to ban every citizen from owning a gun?
>>696044873
I....don't?
>>696044873
I don't think they should ban guns
They should put restrictions on the size clips/magazines/drums you can buy
a regular citizen doesn't need a 100 round drum mag
Citizens should have equal access to whatever law enforcement can get. They aren't military and they can be corrupt. If you're law abiding and have the money, you should get what you feel you need.
>>696044873
it should be like the wild west, with everyone open carrying
>>696045653
That's pretty stupid
>>696045235
Keep it at 10 round mags
They look cooler in my opinion anyway
>>696044873
I think mandatory military service, 6 mo if you plan to go to college or 2 years if you don't (a trade or skill will be taught) and when you leave you get to take your weapon with you. If you are handicapped or like gay then a peace corps like job will be assigned.
This will help eliminate homelessness and eliminate young people coming straight out of high school without a skill or trade.
It will promote racial harmony as you have to work toghether as a unit.
Also will get people in shape and have a well regulated militia.
>>696045235
>clips
>implying bigger clips kill more people
>doesn't know the difference between clips and mags
Go fucking kill yourself, faggot.
>>696046860
>implying bigger mags don't make it easier to mow people down
If I have a 10 round mag, and a 30 round mag and I walk into a club which one can I do the most damage with
Ya, cuz no one that was ever in the military wound up homeless. Cool storey bru.
>>696047120
Yeah, because they never learned a practical trade? Theres always some that will fall through the cracks
>>696047052
Anyone??
Restrict everything except for pistols and shotguns, make background checks tougher
>>696047552
welfare will be eliminated as it is now,
If you are homeless, then society will sentence you back for two more years "incentive" training, rather than jail which makes it harder than ever to get a job
>>696047552
>Risked their life to serve country
>"fell through the cracks"
>oh well, sucks for them
>>696047787
No just restrict anything over a 10 round magazine
>>696045235
Well rosa parks didn't need to sit at the front of the bus now did she. Any type of ban on any firearm is unconstitutional. Just because I don't need something doesn't mean I don't have a right to it.
>>696044873
but I don't. I think that when the military eventually gets involved and is forced to start harming citizens, we need all the help we can get. They have great guns and armor and vehicles, all we get are some "low powered assault rifles".
I mean yeah, have a little bit stricter laws that only prevents retards from owning guns, actual retards. No matter how much we crack down on gun ownership, there are still a billion out there for criminals to get, so I'd rather be on equal footing.
>>696046435
Your comment is pretty stupid.
Ban all assault weapons
>>696045235
I don't think you should be able to own a car that goes 88mph
Thats just too damn fast for regular citizens.
Only Doc Brown & Marty McFly should be able to go that fast
>fucking autistic
>>696047775
Same amount same gun different mag all you need are three ten rounders boom 30 rds
>>696044873
> a gun
because i want them to own several guns
>>696048121
When people start using guns to slaughter each other that's infringing on others rights ban the high capacity magizine
>>696045235
it's not the Bill of needs
>>696044873
Living in a country where this is actually the norm. I can only say it works. Greetings from Denmark, one of the safest places on earth
>>696044873
Because most people are idiots and shouldn't be entrusted with the ability to effortlessly take another's life.
>>696048747
We should just make killing someone illegal.
>>696048723
Are you trying to make it easier for psychos to murder each other? 10 round mags mean reloading more often, carrying more mags so you have to carry 10 to get the same effect as carrying 3 30 round mags
Ban the 30 round mag
Where you get that op, that's a Rusian SKS.
DAM NICE GUN!
>>696046557
I bet you think that railed gas block looks cool too faggot
>>696046435
No, that's just common sense. Sorry were not all niggers
>>696048681
No it's not we need to be able to travel as fast as possible to get more shit done
>>696044873
I don't I'm not a brain washed fearful person that's been told to think a certain way.
>>696047552
Yeah, I guess they should have spent their time learning to flip burgers. What assholes.
>>696048100
> restrict all mags to 10 rounds
Why not Sox rounds, faggot?
Where's the equal-rights for the revolver-owners?
FUCK you and you 'semi-autos are the master race' bigotry!
#AllRoundsMatter
#FreeTheSix
#WildWest4eva
>>696045653
>>696045653
>They aren't military and they can be corrupt.
>>696045653
And people can commit crimes with said guns and hi-cap mags . . . . See how we can just talk ourselves in circles? Pro 2nd Ammendment BTW.
>>696048959
Psychos kill no matter what. I can pull that card too ban cargo trucks no one needs to drive that big of a truck a car does just fine. 50 people would still be alive if we only banned assault trucks.
>>696047968
In what way did they serve most people? A lot of them fought in a useless war started by a retard.
>>696046767
>>696046767
>>>696044873 (OP)
>I think mandatory military service
>>696046767
In Soviet Russia . . .
>>696048747
do you really belive that your pathefic animal life is valueble?
>>696048796
Btw. I love guns. All the way from internal mechanics to shooting. But still, if it is nearly impossible to get one. Crimes with them will be extremely rare
>>696044873
Because somebody who should be in a mental institution might do something crazy, so we all need to be disarmed for the government's safety.
You bunch of troglodytes.
Golly.
>>696048877
>>>696048747
>We should just make killing someone illegal.
>>696048877
This ^^^^^^^^
U.S. 2012 murders involving firearms
>8813
Canada
>172
>>696044873
Having very restrictive laws on guns seems to be working well for France and Germany
>>696049516
I do not, and have never lived in a cave. Don't you fucking dare call me a troglodyte
>>696049601
They outright banned all guns. We need to just ban high capacity magazines and make it harder for criminals to get them
>>696049208
Yes we do we need them for transporting cargo you stupid fuck
>>696044873
my country bans firearms indefinitely. the day they lift the ban the country will plunge into the bloodiest civil war the world had seen. syria will look like childs play.
>>696049489
Come to see me in person and let's find out
>>696048747
Hey Asshole: hi cap mags are a state by state thing and are severely restricted if not banned outright
Take your mangina right the fuck over to /k and learn something
>>696049566
For comparison:
Nunavut (21.01) and the Northwest Territories (6.87) in Canada had much higher murder rates than Idaho in 2011, but even Nova Scotia (2.33), Manitoba (4.24), Saskatchewan (3.59), and Alberta (2.88) had higher murder rates.
>>696048790
Implying they had the problems were having when the bill of rights was written
I'm sick and tired of all these god damn posts degrading our right to carry arms in and out of our homes. I think Americans should just be able to shoot a gun wherever, whenever because they can be used to protect yourself. It is part of our culture and always has been. That is why i think robots and multicultural preferences should never be in decline of determining wether differential continuous fragmentary time-flux warps should be used to construct additional polygons or reflect the toxicity of it's very core within the boundaries of whats physically possible.
>>696048796
>Denmark
>snackbar-ism incoming (EU Cucks)
saved
>>696048833
>Because most people are idiots and shouldn't be entrusted with the ability to effortlessly take another's life.
Oh I didn't realize you were a statiction.
You're not? Well you must have a PhD.
You don't?
Ah! I know, you have an irrational fear of something you've never seen, held, or used, and you're only source of information is what Hollywood tells you!
If youre so frightened about people with guns, why don't you get one, learn how to shoot, learn the laws, and go about your business being secure in the knowledge that, if needed, you could defend your life.
>but I'm a massive faggot and guns are scary! Banning stuff is easier for me because I don't have to think or do stuff!
Why yes, you're right, little faggot!
You could just get a law, and all those nice, law-abiding citizens will comply
>Yay! My dick just got a little bigger!
>>696049188
Badges don't grant extra rights.
Every citizen has the same rights, even the ones that put on costumes and call themselves government.
>>696049965
"Severely restricted" no they're not? I could buy 20 at my local gun shop for next to nothing every shooting with a rifle has used a 30 round mag ban them
>>696050053
they had the fucking civil war and still didn't ban guns they thought they were so important you fucking autist
>>696049041
A2 FSB master race. I run similar, but no stupid 10 rd mags. I have some 20 rd mags for bench shooting.
>>696048796
I'm not pro-gun, but you're dumb if you think that the US and Denmark are comparable. Here's two good reasons why: 1) Too many guns in the market to work without long-term government planning and coordination. I don't know if you've seen the US government try to pass and execute a law when it's contentious (healthcare, raise taxes, cut defense budget, etc.) but it's really hard. There's too many fuckign guns. It'd cost a lot of money, effort, and time. Yet... I still don't think it would work. You'd just get blackmarket effect. 2) Different demographics with different needs (e.g.: people who live outside urban areas with high boar population or high bear population the US is the size of entire Europe.)
>>696049566
What is population size
What are ratios
>>696050152
I've shot guns of all different kinds, no one wants to ban every day carry if they do they're idiots but anything over a 10 round magazine is insane and just making it easier for dangerous people to do bad shit. And the odds of a person with a gun being in the right place at the right time to stop a shooter is slim to none
>>696048796
Yay, i'm danish too!
>>696050360
That was a war you stupid idiot. Not children being gunned down in their school
>>696050053
wut are yoo saying ? more violence = more law abiding restrictions ?
>Cause they ain't passing laws for the fucking criminals
>>696044873
Because you're fucking idiots and not to be trusted with them.
If I had my way you'd only be allowed access to sporks to eat with too.
>>696050419
I have a couple early Colt 20 rounders myself, those things are sexy in retro ARs
>>696050152
Can't take you seriously because you made a lot of assumptions about me(i actually enjoy going to the range) and you are of the opinion that most people aren't idiots.
I'm not scared of firearms. I'm scared of morons like you being allowed to have firearms.
>>696049814
And we need mags for self defense you fucking autist. Go move north to cuckville.
>>696050693
I'm saying they didn't have a modern civilization when the bill of rights was written and they had a need for guns back then we don't need them now but we have a right to them and that was okay until people started killing children now it's time to face the future and ban the weapons of mass destruction
>>696050195
>>>696049188 (You)
>Badges don't grant extra rights.
>>696050195
1. Never said the citizens and law enforcement weren't equal.
2. Cop blockers have to be the biggest badge sniffing boot lickers of them all.
3. Correct, badges don't grant extra rights. An oath of office does, however, grant powers that the average citizen does not have. Which can of course be taken away from the citizen trusted with the oath if they abuse it.
>>696046767
FUCKING HELL THATS EXACTLY WHAT I KEEP TELLING PEOPLE. COMPULSORY MILITARY SERVICE FOR ALL CITIZENS WOULD MAKE SO MUCH FUCKING SENSE FOR THIS NATION.
>>696050911
This is the dumbest shit I've ever read. There are 1000s of other options for home defense but you "need" high cap mags for them. I'm about as pro gun as it gets but I'm also pro logic and the stupid shit your spewing outve your cunt 12 year old mouth is throwing it right out the window
>>696045235
SHALL
>>696050917
Fuck right off there cupcake.
Come down harder on the criminals
>>696050911
>self-defense
What kind of shithole do you live in to need that kind of defense
>>696050152
It's been well documented that the US suffers from a high number of gun-related violence compared to all other countries. The coorelation has already been established that more guns = more gun crimes. Not that banning all guns would be a good idea, but just saying that you're dumb.
>>696050581
> but anything over a 10 round magazine is insane
Why ten? Why not seven, like NY State?
Or 13 like Illinois?
Or six like New Hampshire?
You think 10 is 'safe'?
> Year 2019: "Ten shot dead in gun free Zone. Public outcry for more gun control"
You are a massive faggot if you think that slippery slope doesn't lead straight down.
>>696049684
Oh, is that what that means?
Thought it was the shoulder thing that goes up.
>>696051102
>didn't have the weapons we had now
>old as fuck and outdated
>had actual uses for them back when it was written
If James Madison was here today he would know that we need to ban the weapons used in mass murders because he's a man of logic not a person who acts on primal instincts
>>696051087
T McViegh = ex military
The Dallas shootre = ex military
>Argument invalidated
>>696051149
I lived in Brazil for 10 years, and I'm never not going to keep a loaded AR in my house, ever.
>>696049748
Are you saying they banned all guns prior or after the attacks? Euros in general have decent (but not excellent) gun culture.
>>696051093
You keep thinking that when Hillary calls for all rifles to be confiscated and the police come for your guns. Shame on you.
>>696047787
How does it get tougher than running your name through local and fbi data bases.
Had Orlando's ex-wife reported him for domestic. He couldnt have owned a gun legally. She came out after the shooting and said he abused her so bad. She left him in short order. Yet didnt ever report him. Cant legally own a gun with domestic violence in FL or most states.
How about the gunshop that actually reported him for being suspicious and not selling to him? FBI didnt react.
How about he was under investigation and being watched at one point.
Guess the fed needs to develop a pre-cog program so they can look into the future.
>>696051114
>come down on criminals after they've done something instead of preventing them from doing it.
America will never learn and it's up to congress to be the big boys and do something about it
>>696051149
The non urban-everyone-relies-on-gubbiment-fo-everythang type
There is no good reason for citizen to own a gun, short of being a failed state unable to maintain the rule of law.
I have yet to hear a compelling argument in favour of gun ownership.
/but guns are fun
/guns compensate for my micropenis
/niggaz guhnnuh rape and kill muh fumulu
/muh freedums
>>696051221
Not sure what you're referring to, but im pretty sure a troglodyte is a creature that lives mostly in a cave.
>>696049601
Considering the number of people killed in each country, I'd say they're winning by a landslide.
>>696050665
https://www.nps.gov/nr/travel/national_cemeteries/death.html
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/general-article/grant-kids/
"In the South, where most of the war's major battles were fought, civilian children endured even more misery. They huddled underground as bullets pierced the walls of their homes and artillery burst all around them. They stood by as their homes were turned into command posts or field hospitals. They tended wounded soldiers and watched them die. When the battles ended their homes and farms were often in ruins. Their fields and even their yards were littered with rotting corpses. Their animals and their food crops were destroyed or taken by soldiers. They faced disease and even starvation."
50,000 civilian casualties in the civil war
Tell me again how they didn't appreciate the problems with children dieing en mass from guns back then
>>696050982
1. "Cop blockers have to be the biggest badge sniffing boot lickers of them all." Is not an argument or rebuttal to anything. It's an attempt to smear the opposing viewpoint because you have nothing useful to say
2. An oath of office is nothing more than the hallucinated authority that people who call themselves government justify their actions for. I'm sure the SS Gestapo swore an oath of office too. People can't grants rights to people that they themselves don't have.
>>696051093
30 rounds is not considered "high cap" either, fucking idiot. That is the standard size magazine for most ARs. I bet you have never fired a rifle in your life, buddy.
>>696050152
Good thing all those open carry advocates were in the vicinity of those cops getting gunned down in Dallas. Crisis averted!
>>696051379
Cucked master race achieved
>>696050886
> scared of morons like you being allowed to have firearms.
Faggot, you have no idea.
I'm the most inarticulate moron you'll ever meet.
Now answer the fucking question, little girl:
Why "10"?
Why not 8/13/7?
Because you're a sheep. It's what TV says 'we' should do.
Now bleet, bleet like the fucking sheep you are.
>>696051220
10 is a lot safer than 30
It's not about stopping it because that's not achievable it's about making it harder to do bad shit and limiting casualties
>>696051389
Ban trucks
Ban Knives
Ban Subways
>Being this fucking retarded
There was a test done, with 5-10-15 round magazines. There was little to no difference in the time needed to shoot and reload 6-3-2 times, proving magazine capacity doesn't help/hinder a criminal. Here is the link for proof. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCSySuemiHU
>>696044873
It is OK to everyone own knife =>
It is OK to everyone own gun =>
It is OK to everyone own tank =>
It is OK to everyone own fighter plane =>
It is OK to everyone own nuclear submarine with full of ballistic missiles
Where should we drawn line? No limits and one sick individual could destroy hole planet.
>>696051498
And the Empty Union politicians are doing it so well aren't they ?
You fuckin niggers think the founding fathers would give a fuck about the changing times? "Self-evident, inalienable,..." You know, shit that doesn't change just because a few years pass.
Not that it really matters now, the global public stage is the only reason we aren't under constant martial law anyways.
>>696051187
> US suffers from a high number of gun-related violence compared to all other countries
US has more niggers per-capita.
>>696051283
Firearms are tyranny insurance my friend, and they're why we haven't ever been invaded (besides 1812). Also, wouldn't you feel better being able to protect yourself and not be outgunned if there's ever an intruder? 4 minutes is a long fucking time.
>>696051807
trucks subways and knives serve necessary purpose
cigarettes and guns do not, they are dangerous frivolities
>>696051656
>>696051656
>>>696050982 (You)
>1. "Cop blockers have to be the biggest badge sniffing boot lickers of them all." Is not an argument or rebuttal to anything. It's an attempt to smear the opposing viewpoint because you have nothing useful to say
But don't we all love a good smear every now and then? Preferably with honey and a nice exfoliating scrub?
>2. An oath of office is nothing more than the hallucinated authority that people who call themselves government justify their actions for. I'm sure the SS Gestapo swore an oath of office too. People can't grants rights to people that they themselves don't have.
I think comparing modern US Police to the engineers of the Holocaust is a bit extreme . . . but I still love your spirit.
>>696051656
>>696051494
Make it a bitch load of paper work to get anything that's not a civilian weapon. Keep muhh freedums and keep illiterates from getting guns
>>696051945
That's impossible unless the shooters were firing at different speeds
If you have 10 rounds and you shoot you need to stop 3 times in the time it takes to shoot 30 without a single pause
>>696051379
n/m missed the "not"
too much speed reading
Be well anon
>>696051719
Haha, right. Oversheltered cunt, you're the truly cucked one as you do nothing but shitpost in mummy's basement.
>>696052056
Yes we need guns but not 30 round magazines that are used in every single mass shooting
>>696052080
Then you are perfectly comfortable living the socialist dream sucking on the teat of The System
Grats you mindless simp
>>696051544
When leo is 5-10 mins away.
When 911 dispatch argues with you that the fucking nigger 20 ft away isnt shooting a sks. As you hold the phone out the fucking door. Goes on for 5 munutes. "Sir that sounds like fireworks to me."
Someone puts me in fear for my life. Real fear. I can protect myself. As in they are going to kill me. Point a gun at me. Ect ect i can stop that threat now. I dont inject myself into situations. Im not leo. No one but close family knows i conceal carry where its legal to do so. A person puts me in a position where i can use leathal force. That's their fault and they definitely arent victims.
>>696052056
Nigga that's a high-concept, low practical application idea. It was in that young constitution but it's mostly rhetoric at this point. Them young niggas in the White House got shit that make anything you can purchase legally look like sharp pointy sticks Monica. It doesn't really matter anymore, the only reason we should have guns is to protect ourselves from each other, the government and any nigga smart enough know we can't win against USDOD anymore.
>yfw sad ass truth
>>696052350
Not a true statement.
>>696051683
If 30 rounds isn't considered high cap then that's just proving my point that they're dangerous and should be gone
>>696050581
Also see, I've shot more firearms than you do everyday in cod
>>696052350
How would that stop a mass shooter? They could simply carry several pistols and do the same amount of damage. Then what, restrict pistol magazines to 7 or 8 rounds? It would just be a constant fucking loop of restricting our rights until firearms are confiscated. There is no middle ground with this, liberals will always cry out about gun violence, and firearms will always be used in crime.
>>696052039
Nigga fuk u
>>696051735
Maybe it's because I don't have watch tv, but I have no idea what you're asking me.
Anyway, my point is there are a lot of dumb people in the world who I don't trust, and you shouldn't either. If all have the right to own a weapon, that means those idiotic people have the same right. Two toddlers got shot in my town by those idiots, and one of them died. Maybe you are smart enough to own a firearm, but you're lying to yourself if you say most people are.
>>696050152
>Oh I didn't realize you were a statiction.
Aw, did you just try to spell statistician? That's cute.
Privitize the military and allow contractors to operate in the U.S. boom. Everyone has guns and it's totally normalized. If more people carried firearms to protect themselves and their families and if companies could hire private security forces to operate within the U.S. boarders we would be a lot safer from crazed lone gunmen. Which is what all of the white xenophobes are afraid of right?
>>696052598
Sandy hook
Orlando
Aurora
If you don't see the problem here you're lying to yourself
>>696051787
>10 is a lot safer than 30
How about 20? Or is that arbitrary number not "safe" enough for you, faggot?
I'll meet you half way, 15?
You still haven't said why 8/13/7 is or isn't "safer".
>>696052220
Did you see the entire video kid ? There is literally little to no difference in the total time for reloading + shooting. Look at the damn results at 7:28 in the video, literally 2-3 seconds difference. also the 3x10 rounds magazines were faster than the 2x15 rounds ... so check the damn facts first.
>>696052617
You're dumb and probably gay. Which is weird, you'd think that a reasonable person, after years of being tied to a fence post and beaten, would prefer to have a gun rather than depend on unreliable systems to protect them. Just goes to show that homosexuals are both stupid and gross. On top of being sinful and morally reprehensible. I mean, really, if you think about it, what's natural about a man putting his penis inside of another man's butthole? How mentally unsound is a man who would rather be penetrated than penetrate?
>>696048747
Tell that to the blacks and muzzies, leave the rest of us alone. If brown people didn't have access to guns, crime would be down 95%.
so called 'assault' weapons are safer than older, more 'traditional' weapons.
they have more safety features, to prevent accidental discharge
>which you /b/tards know all about
they're easier to handle, lighter, less recoil
& just plain better.
The rules should be simple;
Mentally handicapped - No gun for you
Felony assault/ Violent crime conviction - No gun for you
Everyone else - Get a gun before they drag you away to the FEMA camp!
>>696052525
Nope.
Though I would bring it about...
People are simply too stupid to know what is good for them (trump wining the GOP nomination is yet anther examples).
The vast majority of people are foolish, self destructive, ignorant and unaware of their own failings.
A technocratic order is necessary with experts making the laws, and taking the reigns for the common good.
>>696052565
Agree to disagree. They would have a hell of a time storming homes when the home owners meet their charge with a shotgun or an AR. They would lose too many lives for it to be practical.
>>696052706
Is it all or none for you republicans? You just hate giving liberals any leniency, it's impossible to stop it but it's about limiting casualties, and using common sense saying "hey, considering almost all mass shooters are using high cap mags, we should probably ban them from the public"
>>696052178
> Make it a bitch load of paper work to get anything that's not a civilian weapon
Already is. Go Google "nfa form 4"
>>696049566
You are bad at statistics.
Canada's population in 2011/2012 was 1/10th the US. In the most general terms, that means that in the US, .002% of the population was murdered, and in Canada, .0005% of the population was murdered. This is a difference of .0015%. Statistically this is an extremely small variance despite the 10% population difference.
I'm still being very general here, but if you look at Nunavut's murder rate you actually get to .06% of the Nunavut population, which is substantially higher as a percentage of the population than the US murders.
I'm not saying that the US doesn't have a murder problem. I'm saying that your statistical analysis is laughable at best and the obvious result of years of drinking the bullshit Kool-aid about gun violence rather than seeking statistical accuracy.
So fuck you.
>>696052565
not true. please see: vietnam, korea, all of the middle east conflicts.
Guerilla warfare is extremely effective against large armies. One of the main problems the US army would have if fighting guerilla warfare in the US is that they can't bomb places like they can in other countries, because the idea is the citizens they are trying to protect are mixed in with the guerilla element (this is even worse than compared to fighting a guerilla army in another country, because in other countries we don't care about civilian casualties as much).
>>696051979
Yes because a gun and a tank are the same thing.
>>696053111
Come see me sometime cupcake I'd love to make you my little bitch :)
>>696052039
http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv13.pdf
Welp. I was about to argue otherwise, but can't argue with math. Black people commit more crime per capita.
>>696053407
Yes everyone knows that tanks are BIG guns that can move
>>696053003
Are you slow? This is the ultimate strawman Jesus mass murders use 30 round mags take them away and if they use something else that is unnecessary and dangerous take it away is it that hard of a concept to grasp?
>>696052706
then simply ban guns in the US as they are in developed countries.
It is a historic failure of the american state that i t did not manage to exercise a monopoly on violence, which is the first role of the State. The slow gradual transition from "frontier" to "settled" was uneven which means that during the interwar period (great recession-ish) they should have taken the guns away, rather than the alcohol...
>>696044873
The only thing that is keeping America clenching on to it's last dregs of freedom is that the government know that millions of people are armed and willing to use it. People are cucked by their government though, sorry to use that word. There's been countless presidents over the years that have been wholly corrupt and damaging to the people, dragging them through wars they had no business in and killing innocent people and getting innocent people killed. Police often have arrest quotas too, if that's not tyrannical then I don't know what is. Through all this very, very few Americans have raised their rifles and attacked their government, in the way the constitution tells them they have the right. Hillary will likely be president next, a woman who is a known criminal who has put America at incalculable international and domestic risk, who is personally responsible for the deaths of countless innocent people internationally and domestically and will most definitely drag America through more unjust wars they have no business being involved in. Yet, I highly doubt that a single person will raise their rifle and attack because, as much as Americans like to believe they are strong, free and ready to protect their country, they don't dare. Guns at this point in America are nothing but a hobby, a conversation starter and political ammunition. Americans won't actually use them according to their very constitution, a constitution which cost the lives of countless Americans and British men, they'll instead continue to jump on political trains because they're foolish enough to believe the words from a politicians mouth, they'll vote and beg for democracy and freedom but they won't fight for it. Just like Europe, America is cucked and they don't even see it. Americans, use your guns or lose everything.
I'm a Brit, this is how I see it.
>>696053445
This isn't the place for your homosexual personal ad.
>>696053452
ize blame da wite manz
keepen uz dwon n shet
>>696053267
The thing is, mass shooters can easily start using other weapons and do the same amount of damage. It's the simple truth, and it really is an 'all or nothing' scenario.
>>696052934
Yeah, I see the problem very clearly. We in America have a problem with poverty. We lavish the wealthy upper class with enough money to support national economies just for already having enough money to support national economies while taking money away from people who already don't have money. Which means that niggas gotta rob and steal to make they nut. And people who are crazy, young niggas who need clinical help but can't acquire the means to get that help, get left to their own devices to be crazy and harm other niggas. You fuckin liberals are always about helping niggas out but just like everyone else you quietly dodge the root of the problem to address ancillary side-effects.
>>696044873
Because, as evidenced by most of the comments in this thread, people are fucking stupid.
I'd ban scissors and running, too, for this crowd.
>>696052565
Are you daft? Who do you think the military is made up of? Tanks and airplanes don't hold strategic assets either. Until there is a self-repairing robot army your argument is full of holes.
You just have to look at Bin Laden vs the entire US military and understand that it's not so easy to control a population. Total extermination is not hard, controlling America while Americans still live? Forget it. Don't sleep, don't blink, don't eat because the moment you do there's a civilian with a gun.
>>696053753
I was the guy he was calling a fag so I was just offering since he clearly sounds interested most republicans who hate gays are really just confused and secretly just need a dick in their mouth to stop the bullshit from coming out
>>696053659
I agree in that any good dictator will tell you the state MUST monopolize fear and violence. The US has not done this.
BUT this is a failure for the state, victory for the citizens. The citizens retain more power as a result. So it's a good thing
>>696053659
There are already WAY more guns in circulation in the US than in any other country. Illegal firearms will just become the main source of arms for mass shooters if we ban them.
>>696053111
You don't need guns, you can just call the cops for who you need the guns in the first place. That burglar with the shotgun will wait 15 minutes for the cops to arrive while you sit on the phone.
>>696053742
actually, the second amendment was about making it cheap and easy to get soldiers (citizen militia vs professional army).
Seperating the gun ownership from the militia (ie training and some regulation) was one of the worse rulings in american history.
>>696049814
Yeah, you don't need them, the majority of the population doesn't need them. Commercial trucking needs them. That's the point. Besides if I wanted to take out a large number of people because I went crazy, I wouldn't be a d bag and use a gun, I'd use a bug ass truck with a plow. If people want to kill they will find a way. Taking away guns or high mag capacity won't stop shit.>>696049822
>>696049822
Which country is that?
>>696053581
>Being so fucking uninformed that you sound like you're from the stone age.
Yes, you can legally purchase a tank, because it is considered a vehicle, you cannot purchase the ammo for it because it is bigger than .50 BMG, therefore it is considered a destructive device. Also, for all the cucks screaming to "ban guns", you can easily make a shotgun for $20. Proof : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQsp7vz4Cyc
>>696054098
Implying you need 30 .223s to stop the guy who may or may not ever show up
>>696053742
THE BEST BRIT.
But yes, well done, you get our line of thinking. Hence why we believe we're largely fucked over here.
>>696053205
Nigga the way it goes now with so few people owning guns it would be easy as balls. Even if we all owned guns it's not like they don't have the resources to undermine us, especially if we stand as a bunch of individuals rather than a single group.
>>696053394
You're talking about surviving as a young resistance group. That's great, but that's a little different from winning the war. We could hold out like a bunch of young bosses all damn day, at no point will we be storming the White House to take control. I don't remember any chinks or camal jockeys sieging D.C.
>>696049822
So you're country is full of puss is who arent smart enough to get guns illegally or don't know how to remove political figures using other means?
>>696054218
It will stop the guys who were planning on using a 30 round mag to go shoot up their school or local club or large gathering of people
>>696054082
It is not a victory for citizens, the vast number of gun deaths attest that if anything, the population lost out most. Looking at all other civilized nations, we do not need guns to defend ourselves from the government because the government is by the people and for the people.
The very first role of the state is to prevent its citizens from infringing on each others rights (killing and stealing being top of that list). By leaving plenty of weapons in circulation, it facilitates the murder of the citizens.
in b4 the fallacious "guns protect people (from people with smaller guns)", they don't.
>>696054390
Are you stupid? Over 100 MILLION people in the US own firearms. That is like one in three people.
>>696054139
Let me re-write the Constitution in terms that will make sense to you.
A well-regulated army, being necessary to the security of the State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
The well-regulated army is necessary to the security of the state. As a result, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. If you don't understand this then read the fucking Federalist papers where it's very clearly spelled out that the Founding Fathers believed that the free people having weaponry equal to that of the military was necessary to preserve power in the hands of the people.
You idiot.
>>696053445
You couldn't handle me. Nor could you handle my .45
Fuckin faggot.
Go have unprotected anal sex with an ugly hairy man knowing you aren't good enough for a soft beautiful woman.
>>696054295
Right, tell that to the black KKK. BLM has already been caught on video false imprisoning white people for being white and they killed those cops after chanting WHAT DO WE WANT: DEAD COPS and PIGS IN A BLANKET, LET THEM FRY.
I'm sure an angry mob will patiently wait for you to reload your .22 revolver.
Really, how many people get shot with these "assault rifles" anyway and why do these mass shootings keep happening in GUN FREE ZONES?
>>696054390
don't need to storm the white house. The whole point of insurgencies is to make the government in power commit atrocities against its own people (ie bombing citizens accidentaly). This gives you political support, which you then use to insert your politicians into the system.
>>696048959
with training you can do on your own you can make a reload in less than 3 seconds and if you put a magwell funnel on it and you still have a round in the chamber before a reload you can cut it down even less since you don't have to fiddle with the precision and hitting the bolt release
>>69604777
I know people who aren't legally allowed to own firearms that do anyway
>>696054268
You looked WAY to much into my post.
I have no actual opinions about tanks or tank ownership. So why did I post it? Becasue this is fucking b I can post whatever I want.
>>696054713
Because most places that have large gatherings such as clubs are gun free as are most places in civilized society, and not all gun free places are anti carry, you just can't open carry also nice strawman no wants to ban concealed carry
>>696053861
then you should be banned from having scissors...
If you do not understand the difference between the necessary tools for day to day life, which might be used to somewhat injure one person, and John Doe having a weapon which is only used to commit violence and possibly on a large scale, then you are truly "fucking stupid"
Imagine Sandy hook, V-Tec or Columbine with the perpetrators just running around with an axe rather than guns. They might get a kill, jor just injure a few (cf the peki shit in Wurzburg this week)
>>696055069
Then why is Hillary talking about banning semi-autos?
>>696055110
Good try newfags, look at the kid with a sword in trollhaten Sweden.
>>696054691
You're probably some skinny ugly loser who's cock hasn't come near a women I'm not even gay but I'd still make you my bitch just for lulz
>>696054098
Heh. Lemme tell you something anyone who isn't dumb or gay knows:
The cops aren't there to stop crimes. They are there to deter crimes.
They pick up the pieces and prosecute criminals after the crime has been done. And that's assuming you get the chance to call them.
So after criminals come in your home, tie you up, rape your wife, then you know what, fuck it, rape your ten-year-old daughter too because, why the fuck not, then kill your wife, then kill your daughter, then maybe torture you for a bit for fun, then kill you because you've seen them, then the cops show up and collect evidence.
>>696055301
Same reason trump is talking about building a multi billion dollar wall to appeal to the masses
>>696054686
That is your interpretation. And a poor one.
The point of arming the people is not to counterbalance the military (which in this case, was the writers) but to compensate for the fact that the state had next to no resources and that should the Brits come back, they would need to defend themselves.
One common american mistake is to idolaise the writers of the constitution as towers of genius and intellect, they were just men, and they also had fallible judgement.
Not to mention that with the evolution of language over 200 years leads to changes of meanings and phraseology.
But whatever, I am not the one who will get roped/raped at gunpoint by a nigger...
>>696048985
>SKS
its the official gun of canada m8
>>696054891
Chink and camal jockey terrorists got inserted into our political offices?
>>696054992
>Thinks his wrong opinion is that important for me to actually research it
>Being that much of a libtard cuck
>>696054614
Guns don't have a violence problem though. see this image for a rough reason why. The power the government gains by banning guns has a potential to do far more harm than the benefit of banning guns
>>696055341
It's been in a number of women. And you, good sir, are gay. I can tell because only a gay person would be so dumb without dark skin.
>>696055309
3 kills in trollhaten
32 kills in Vtech
I guess the american numeracy program needs an overhaul as well,...
>>696055391
Exactly! The whole "You don't need guns, just call the police" is retarded as fuck.
If they're going to ban anything, ban detachable magazines over 30 rounds. There's no purpose in them, because a 30 round magazine is enough to defend yourself against multiple assailants, and in the case that you need more ammunition most rifles are built so that you can change mags quickly and easily
>>696054364
I rarely hear Americans talk about themselves and their situation as being fucked though. For the most part, Americans just scream about freedom and talk about how fucked Europe is, to me it seems like they're mostly blind to their own situation. I see post after post after post all different social media about how "Trump will save us", "Hillary will save us", "Bernie will save us" and I just can't help but wonder why you can't just save yourselves. America is a strange place to me, the people have the tools to build liberty but don't use them, they prefer instead to live happily on the false promise of somebody else building it for them. I just can't wrap my head around it, it's so peculiar.
>>696055757
You're probably 14 who jerks off to porn on mommys computer while she's at work even a gay probably gets closer to pussy than you do.
>>696055620
not ours obviously because we are fighting in other countries. In other countries though, yes that is what happens. Are you purposely acting retarded?
you guys are a bunch of faggots, watch this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G41jE9iMhLg
>>696055560
Again, read the Federalist papers. You are patently wrong. It was about arming the people to protect themselves from the government. This is very clearly spelled out by Adams and all the others. So no, it is not 'my' interpretation. It is a strict interpretation.
>>696055805
Also on this point, this pic relate
>>696055752
I would also ban tobacco products, but this is not the topic of the thread..
I realise that americans are terrrified of their government. But it is unfounded.
Just as the rest of the civilise d world uses the metric system, we also live with significantly fewer weapons knocking around, and instead of loosing fruuuduuums over it, we gain in safety.
>>696055560
The guy you replied to then (>>696054686)
isn't me who posted >>696053742. I don't like people thinking I act like a dick, even on the anon interwebs.
>>696056111
No it's not because 50 people didn't get murdered using a fire extstinguisher
>>696056111
Also yes guns are important just not all guns
>>696044873
they making other nations like Russian helpless fools.
you scare only russian politicians at best. and your own politicians tell you that they have atomic bomb or what more awful - terrorists.
fight for your right
only own govs scare of your gun because if one civilian kill another it just statistics.
pic on left is hypnosis related.
no |insert fav movie actor| gonna save you from evil jew umbrella corporation future.
>>696056111
feeling like a strawman today?
Big difference is, the fire extinguisher is about as dangerous as a chair, guns are a murder tool
>>696056150
then we should ban baseball bats too under your logic
>>696056217
>on the internet, no one knows I am a dog
>>696055996
I was about to ask you the same question. You're comparing the history on invasions, not internal rebellions (of which we have had one technically). Nigga we don't stand a fuckin chance against the FBI. Neither would your circle jerk buddies in the UK for that matter. If you thought the niggas in the UK or Europe would side with us, the "homegrown terrorists" as any group resistant to martial law would be dubbed in the media, the global narrative framing device.
>>696056303
Hurrrr durr no!!!!!!! I shoot shit in my backyard for funsy!!!
Even the people who died fighting for are freedom would think this is stupid
>>696055420
Because 30 million illegals isn't destroying your economy right now huh? Hungary built a barb-wire fence and illegals entering the country dropped by over 99%.
30 billion dollar drug trade and cartel violence would be stopped quickly, allowing Mexico to regain control of its own country again. A wall would be one of the best things that could possibly happen to Mexico. Except they have to pay for it.
All these illegals take jobs from other poverty stricken groups like the blacks and the legal immigrants. They drive down wages by flooding the market with supply of cheap labor. The end result is more people on welfare who can't get started on the job market and as time goes by, are less likely to ever get a job.
>>696048670
missing the most important criteria of an actual assault weapon
>intermediate cartridge
>select fire, 3 round burst, semi auto, full auto
>>696056549
good you wasted typing all the out because I never said it was a bad thing
>>696056235
Fires don't kill people, people do
>>696056303
Fire extinguishers can't kill people by means of asphyxiation or bludgeoning.
>>696056317
Frankly, I do not care for baseball (or cricket). They are shitty sports, one guys throws the ball, one swings, everyone else is just standing around waiting to get the ball back to them...
And again, it is a comparison of daily necessity vs danger to people.
Nuclear power: worth it
knives: necessary, but if you carry one you better have a legitimate (ie not violence) relate one
cars/trucks: dangerous but really useful
guns: serve only a singular purpose, which is violence.
The whole thing ramifies well too, if citizens are not armed with guns, the police do not need to carry them at all times either, which even takes the teeth away from your boogey man.
>>696056549
We have more than a barbed wire fence on the border, do people actually believe that immigrants just climb the fence and they're in??? And by building a wall it would stop them? Jesus Christ
>>696056303
Can't trust yourself with a murder tool? That sounds like a "you" problem. Don't make it everyone else's problem that you're a child.
>>696056543
bullshit. show me why the logistics of ousting a US planted government in a foreign country is any different than ousting that same government in the US
>>696055946
Oh, precisely this, but I can explain.
1. Ultimately, none of us actually want to have to be the one to do the fighting.
This isn't unreasonable because let's be honest, who wants to get in the trenches and do the dirty work? I certainly don't. Additionally, as much as we keep the Revolutionary war in our minds, we keep the Civil War (War between the states, whatever) there, too. Both of these wars are remarkably interrelated in terms of their reasons, but the Revolutionary War had us fighting "bad guys" and the Civil War had us fighting each other.
2. "X will save us" relates directly to the above.
We're at an odd stalemate, and people on both sides think that their votes move the chess pieces in a way that prevents what some would say is inevitable. Each side eventually wants to checkmate the other, and the ballot box is what we perceive as our Maginot Line, with both sides wanting to push the borders to give themselves some breathing room.
3. Ultimately, I assume that the balance of power will tip wholly to one side.
At that point, all bets are off, and that's why I say we're fucked. Democrats will tell you that the elimination of weapons and the elimination of hate will bring about a great society of balance and fairness. Republicans don't trust anyone to do for them what they can't do for themselves (resulting in a measure of xenophobia), and they sure as hell don't want to have to lay down their lives if they don't have to.
Ultimately, isn't that it? I'd die in defense of my Constitution, absolutely. It wouldn't be an honorable death, though. It'd hurt. It'd be awful. It would be worst - and last, of course - experience of my life.
>>696056548
I can tell from your tenuous grasp of the English language that you are stupid. Your sentences do not even make sense.
Although at this point, I assume that you must be trolling to be this dumb...
>>696056993
Apparently you can't either considering how high gun crime is in America. We wouldn't have a problem with it if people were slaughtering each other in the streets
>>696056549
you think anyone here wants those jobs? the hotel i work at doesn't have illeagles available to hire and we are always short on housekeepers and kitchen workers because our citizens don't want to do that kind of work and they don't have to either. It's a joke.
>>696057149
Poverty and lack of infrastructure for systems designed to aid crazy niggas.
>>696056920
you must be trolling now, if you think we should actually ban baseball bats. Guns have just as much, if not more sporting value than baseball or any sport anyways, the necessity is just as high as any sport.
Also
>implying police won't carry guns because citizens don't
good one mate
>>696057100
You must be pretty stupid to not know what I was going for. It must be insulting knowing you can't understand statements made by someone who you think is stupid
>>696056863
>Fire extinguishers can't kill people by means of asphyxiation or bludgeoning.
Hence my comparing how dangerous the extinguisher is to a chair, with which one could bludgeon someone.
The asphixiation risk depends on which kind of fireextinguisher are used, powder ones (such as vs electric fires) do not pose an asphixiation risk.
You are a moron
>>696057100
>thinks by dropping in "tenuous" he's won the argument on grammar.
>uses comma horrendously in the next sentence.
kill yourself.
![Southern-border-wall1-570x384[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/BsgBAJ8.jpg "Southern-border-wall1-570x384[1].jpg")
>>696056940
Yeah, this sure looks insurmountable. They're driving CARS over these by putting supports against the walls.
>>696056993
>not wanting to risk being murdered
> wanting to live in a society where people don t just murder each other
> get called a child
What I am reading?
>>696057318
have you heard of England, mate?
And no gun shooting isn t a sport, any more than nascar or competitive hot dog eating
>>696047052
Depends on how many bullets you brought with you
because having some 40 years old in their pathetic mid-life crisis have a hard-on shooting at soda bottle isnt worth the risk of having widespread weapons all over the USA.
>>696057605
Yes everyone knows that for it to be a sport you have to guys sweating or something.
stupid fuck.
>>696044873
I don't. This will only allow the criminals to get their hands on more firearms and open a wider black market for them. You also need to make some tough decisions.
>Will all guns be banned?
Just rifles or also handguns? What about the air rifles that people make in their basements? Those are just as deadly at close range.
>How do you define a gun?
Just anything that shoots? Because you'd need to ban all slingshots and nerf guns too. We can go back to my last point about air rifles too.
>How will you collect them?
Going door to door is great but people have been able to hide larger things for decades. You could always get a list of which households have registered firearms. But what about legal and unregistered firearms? I have an AR-15 that I built myself. I bought all of the parts except the receiver at my local gun shop. Only had to show a drivers license to prove I'm 18. I then bought an 80% finished receiver online and finished it with sandpaper and knives in my garage. Built my own rifle in a day and it's totally legal as long as I don't sell it or give it away. Nobody knows I have it either.
>What happens if people won't hand them over?
Arrest them? Shoot them? Shooting people to protect them from firearms is laughable.
Answer me you spineless faggots.
>>696046767
I agree completely with this faggot.
>>696057088
Apologies for the aggressive use of "ultimately".
>>696057385
You, moron, are proving the fuckin point. Danger exists in the world, sorry to burst your bubble. Rather than pretend it doesn't exist, why not prepare for it?
>>696044873
Why do you want to go out and shoot everyone with your gun?
>>696047052
If you think this matters in the slightest you are 100% noguns
>>696057706
Don't ever fucking reply to me against.
>>696057423
>kill yourself.
Less likely due to lack of gun ownership
Continue shilling for the NRA though.
as for tenuous, it would be a vocabulary rather than grammatical question. But good try though, I suggest you read the image you posted, for I believe it applies more to you, poster, than to me.
No U
>>696056303
> strawman
You've used that word three times in this thread.
Only seven more to go before you have to slap another mag into you're keyboard.
>>696057504
Murder exists in all places everywhere. But I suppose you don't have to acknowledge it. You get to live your sheltered little life in a place that's relatively safe. It gives you the freedom to be so soft.
I have a 9 mm handgun in my bedroom. I have it in order to be prepared in the odd chance that I am the victim of a home invasion. Are you all saying I should not be allowed to do this?
>>696048121
You beautiful bastard...
>>696057706
good job, keep using ad hominem attacks, you are clearly showing the superiority of you rhetorics and of your position.
Protip: it is indefensible
>>696057853
toughy mctougherson over here
>>696056920
You sound like a naive child
>>696057747
Guns are a danger.
By limiting their availability, we are better prepared against the danger, for having nipped it in the bud.
>>696058036
I said don't ever fucking reply to me again!
>>696057929
I mean handgun crimes are pretty high in the us so it's a catch 22 if we ban handguns we can't protect ourselves from handgun crimes wat do
>>696057605
havent you ever heard of the US being power hungry. you really think they will disarm their police forces if civilians are? you can't be serious
Bonus meme: hunting has literally been a sport since before we had guns. Way before any faggy sport you play like baseball or football
>>696058036
That dude is pretty tough. He's tougher than you are, faggot. Go make love to someone who identifies as the same gender as you do, you homosexual pedophile
>>696058266
This is the kind of response you should expect when debating with a gun nut
>>696058125
And pro-gun folks are generally Timothy McVeigh level paranoid nut jobs.
I live in a safe country with almost existent gun crime, largely thanks to stringent anti gun laws.
>>696044873
Because I'm a scared adult-child who needs mummy and daddy government to make me feel safe.
>>696058218
make me, you fucking faggot.
>696057710
>tfw nobody responds to my post because I'm right
>>696047052
The illegal 30 round mag or the legal 10 round mag because I'd still have access to both if I really cared.
>>696058407
What country annon?
>>696058251
The american government is who you elect. It is as power hungry as the people who are elected, by the people.
You are trapped in a rhetoric that serves the GoP's anti establishment streak while at the same time maintaining itself as the establishment.
I have a very low opinion of the aforementioned sports, bash them as you like, I will not argue against it.
Most gun owners do not hunt though, and going to a shooting range standing for 15 mins and tensing your arms bit is not s sport.
>>696058407
>safe country
>thanks to stringent anti gun laws.
You're proving his point. Private gun ownership has almost no effect on rates of violent crime. In some cases, like Australia, homicide increased for ten years after the gun ban.
Living among intellegent, well educated people, who have a lot to lose leads to lower rates of violent crime, not civilian disarmament.
>>696058340
> This is the kind of response you should expect when debating with a gun nut
I'm not that anon, but I'm a 'shooting enthusiast'.
And I've never responded like that.
However, if a libtard can't convince axons like me that certain gun-control measures are a good idea, how can they expect to succeed?
>>696058407
>I live in a safe country with almost existent gun crime, largely thanks to stringent anti gun laws.
I bet your quaint little country doesn't have 40 million rabid niggers in it either.
>>696049748
>High capacity...
Fucking autistic fag. Let's ban high capacity gas tanks too, with your logic, every SUV driver has one.
>>696058197
A) so many more things are also a danger, and in many cases, guns can be a solution to danger.
B) "nipping it in the bud" would be fixing the social ills that cause crime in the first place. In fact, what you're suggesting is exactly, almost ironically, the opposite. Treating the symptoms rather than curing the disease. What a fuckin idiot.
C) even were I to concede to your point, you're a fuckin loser. You don't realize that as a nation we suck at or are complicit in the smuggling of contraband into the states. Guns are gonna be on the streets just like cocaine and heroin regardless of their legal status. The only difference is that where once the law abiding citizen had a gun, now it is only the criminal and the crazy who have them. Just like the problem with gun-free zones.
D) you're fuckin stupid, accept it.
>>696049822
What the fuck does that day about the people in general in your country.
Fucking bait mait
>>696057088
I don't intend to disrespect you here though it may come across as though I am, so apologies in advance. To me, what you wrote there seemed to be just an excellent few paragraphs that washed away the problem from your mind, as if trying to image and rationalise an outcome in your mind that takes no effort from yourself. I also feel that your declaration that you would die in defence of your consitution, though honourable, is coming from a place of hollow patriotism and not from a place of willingness. I see it far too often from Americans to really believe there is any substance behind the words, it seems more like a fashionable rhetoric at this point to me. This is why I believe America is on a one way road, because people who say all the right things and have all the right things fail to do the right things. America is said to be the land of the brave but I see so little bravery, it's very sad to see it happening.
>>696058340
Ooooooooh. Did that just change your level of intelligence or your sexuality? Oh, it didn't? You're still equal measures dumb and also gay. Huh. Weird.
Well.
>>696058653
>>696058920
Luxemburg, but grew up in Scotland and lived in Finalnd for a while.
For short Finland has a fairly high gun ownership (for Europe), but mostly Finns fight each other with knives when they want to settle things.
And no, but we are undersiege from millions of arabs and other terrosrist leaning immigrants.
>>696059216
You gotta be brave to live in a place with a bunch of niggers, you fuckin Limey. Go beg us to bail you out of another losing war, you euro Cuck piece of shit.
>What do you need a gladius for, Romanfats?
If your house gets robbed, just call the lictor's guild or use your scutum to fend off the attack.
No Roman citizen actually needs a gladius. If push came to shove, what, are you and your untrained barbarian slaves going to defeat 10 legions by yourselves?
What next, should you have the right to own a ballista? No Roman citizen should need more than a pugio to defend himself in his home. You're just overcompensating for your short stature and plebian birth.
>>696059235
Heh implying a gay wouldn't kick your scrawny virgin ass children make smarter rebuttals than you
>>696058970
Jesus man... I really had to sit back and think about how stupid of a comment that was high capacity gas tanks.. Wow
>>696055946
Thank you
-Amerifag
I hate that I let myself loose almost an hour arguing with gun nuts on /b/, when no one is going to change anybody else s mind. Just trolls trolling trolls.
I was just waiting for buffering...
>>696059524
I love this nigga right here
>give ass/tits
>>696058811
>Banning other peoples sports or hobbies because you don't enjoy them
You went full retard
Also, I'm not a republican, faggot
>>696059840
Banning others people sports or hobbies because someone murdered 30 children at a school
>>696059530
Not implying
>expressing that a gay wouldn't kick my awesome nonvirgin ass and that children make way worse rebuttals than I do.
No implications here, homo gay person
>>696053267
> all or nothing
Bullshit, there has been compromise from gun owners for far too long. I want my rights back
>>696060004
Homo gay person? Wouldn't that make me straight because if I'm already a homo then I was gay that would mean i liked women? Try harder you fucking scrawny pussy
>>696059978
Falling back on that argument I see. Again, crazy people aren't getting taken care of plus niggers. If you really wanna help crime, force nigger women to have out of wedlock kids with white people. You
>>696059978
wew lad why don't you re read your post. you just proved my point
>>696060115
More to the point it would seem that gun control doesn't work.
>>696060203
It seems like with that argument you tried hard enough for the both of us. How would that one even make sense? Oh right, you're gay. You fundamentally make no sense.
>>696060204
Don't speak illiterate so can't respond
>>696060226
My point is if you're not hurting others there's no problem but gun rights are infringing on others rights therefor it should not be allowed
>>696060564
Nigger fuk urself.
>>696060115
Except gun rights is not a cake
but a loaded gun at the nation's head
And it is not, I want to steal your cake put stop pointing the gun at my head...
But you are too entrenched in your gun masturbating ways, or possibly an NRA shill
>>696060115
You could've just said a slippery slope instead of making me read that stupid bullshit
Also trying gun control and it not working is still better than doing nothing and nothing happening if we tried gun control and it didn't work then I would be fine with putting more guns in civilian hands but until then you have no evidence gun control doesn't work outside of conspiracies
>>696045235
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls4Uq1aCiTA Because mag size makes a big difference.
>>696060552
What the hell are you rambling on about? Stay butt hurt because you weigh 160 pounds and will probably marry some ugly whore and have butt ugly kids if that's not the case already
>>696049292
You say that because you lost the war
Veterans from ww2 and middle east are labeled "heroes" but vietname's veteran are treated like shit
Because you lost
Against a bunch of hungry farmer
LAME
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>>696059452
I really do hope that you're a different anon from the guy I was talking with. You should be ashamed of yourself for conducting yourself in such a vitriolic way to a person who has done no wrong to you.
>>696060745
It's not a loaded gun pointed at the nation's head, you melodramatic ultra political fuck. Rampant gun ownership isn't going to undo all of America you doom prophet piece of filth.
And I know there is no gun pointed at your head and you've never had a gun pointed to your head. It's fuckin digraceful of you to say that while people out there have had guns pointed at them, and have been threatened with death. Have you no shame?
>>696060865
He's shooting a heavily modified pistol and he's an Olympic speed shooter
Doesn't change the fact that you have to reload 3 times to get the same effect and shooting one 30 round mag.
>>696061027
Anon, fuck you. You're fuckin trash and you have no clue what bravery looks like since the last time any Brit showed any bravery was WWI. That's what you Limeys fuckin do though: pout and try to shame others when faced with a problem. What a fuckin loser.
>>696044873
Because the citizens have proved time and again that they cant handle the responsibility
>>696060865
how many people have the skill to change a mag that fast
how many people can carry that many mags on their person without being noticed
these are preventative measures intended to slow and prevent more criminals from having access to high-capacity death machines, while still allowing responsible citizens to own them where reasonable and safe.
>>696060564
the point is gun owners mostly use guns legally for sport. just because a couple autists do a bad thing shouldn't be the fault of the item that is vastly overwhelming being used in a safe and enjoyable manner
>>696059452
Leave the Brit alone. He's not being a cock, don't you be one either, ya bastard.
>>696059216
No disrespect taken and, in fact, thank you for being so polite about all of this. I enjoy conversations with Brits on this topic, though admittedly it's typically more caustic.
I don't have any more evidence to say that it's not 'hollow patriotism' than simply to say that it isn't. I can understand why you say what you do, but again, it's a case of 'I don't really want to die if I have to' but I would do what was necessary. It's in the same area of my brain where I'm all for free speech even if I disagree with what's being said, if it doesn't seem too far-fetched to connect the two.
As for trying to rationalize, yes - I'm absolutely trying to do that. Let's say, for example, that we did decide to go after the government. The amount of work it would take to organize such a thing is immense, and the risk is tremendous. But the same can be said for the government. If they really wanted to march out into the US and take all the firearms, they could certainly try - but the organization is monumental and the risk is tremendous. So we're at a stalemate, aren't we? In the end I overthink things - but this is a discussion on the topic of the people of a country having to fight their government, and admittedly it's a bit hard to wrap my brain around the scale of that level of disaster.
>>696061393
>Because a small sector of morons have proved time and time again that they're mentally unstable/dangerous/retarded
>>696061417
No one wants to ban guns, We want to ban fucking high cap magazines because they are used in every shooting every time it's never a 10 round mag or whatever it's always a high cap 30 round mag
