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Name a stronger superhero
>protip: you can't
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Saitama, game over.
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Hulk
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>>695795407
Goku
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>>695795407
Galactus
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fucking squirrel girl
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His dad
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>>695795643
squirrel girl beat galactus
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>>695795407
THE ETERNAL PRESIDENT IS INFINITELY MORE POWERFUL THAN THAT IMPERIALIST PIG-DOG!!
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Oops. Sorry, op.
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>>695795407
Super Superman
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>>695795407
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>>695795407
tsuyu beats all. Fear the frog girl
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Super hero? The Sentry, I'd say. There are a lot of non-heroes that blow both of them away in both DC and Marvel, but I think that the Sentry is one of the only ones that could give superman a run for his money.
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Super girl.
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deadman, can possess superman, making him strong as superman while overpowering superman
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>>695795909
o shit, waddup?
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>>695795407
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>>695795968
tsuyu would lick superman right in the fucking prostate
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Super girl is stronger than superman
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Wolverine
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>>695795407

Superman Prime (One Million)

End of discussion. Actually the end of every discussion. Superman Prime is better than everything you ever imagined or ever could imagine.

If you dreamed up "Superman Prime Plus 1" he'd immediately be "Superman Prime Plus 2"
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>>695795911
but the sentry lost to hulk, and superman beat hilk
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>>695796142
>that one kid who always makes up new powers and rules so he wins no matter what
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A chunk of kryptonite.
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>>695795407
Pre-52 superman.
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>>695796652
INCREDIBLE POWER
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>>695795407
Superboy prime
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>>695796652
by this logic metamorpho
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>>695796382

Exactly! That's what he is. He's the "Eric Cartman as a Ninja" of made up super hero's and so there is no way to defeat Superman Prime. Superman Prime just thought up another power which is having all the powers he wants.

He really should be permanently set aside for the purpose of these kinds of debates. Once a Superhero basically becomes God it's kind of pointless to waste time discussing who might be able to beat him.
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>>695797005
>pointless to waste time discussing who might be able to beat him.
Goku
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>>695797005
Dr Manhattan still beats him.
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>>695797005
But what if you become a level 'beyond god?'
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garlic bread
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>>695797148
lmao youre right
hes the same way
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>>695797253
Super saiyan god super saiyan?
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>>695797148
See
>pointless
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Deadpool
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>>695795512
Gay
>>695795518
No.
>>695795543
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L0D0VGomWb4
>>695795643
>Galactus
>Hero
>>695796142
SUPERMAN Prime?
Still Superman
>>695795911
He'll give Supes a good fight, but he's not beating him.

>pic very related
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>>695797148

Superman Prime just wishes away Goku's entire civilization from the beginning of time.

Then, since he's a "good guy" he goes back and recreates them as a peace loving civ of Superman Prime worshiping pacifists.

Thanks for playing Goku.
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>>695797351
Saiyan Beyond God

CHECK EM
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>>695796026
This and arguably Batman.

One Punch Man and Batman are both stronger because his superpowers aren't constrained the physics of any particular universe, but rather literary rules. One Punch Man is the embodiment of the Rule of Funny, and Batman is the embodiment of Deus Ex Machina. Both always win because respectfully, it's more funny that way or the perfect counter is always in his utility belt/batcave.
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>>695795407
Sentry
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>>695795407
Alfred
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>>695795407
>>695795407

you lose
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>>695797800
Check'd
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>>695797709
>wishes away Goku's entire civilization
>wishes
Did he collect the dragon balls?
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>>695797703
The Hulk. Superman got beaten by a guy with a ring.
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>>695797999
Oh...

check'd yourself
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>>695797632
>not even naming a hero
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>>695797800
C H E C K E D

also doomsday did kill superman so yeah
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>>695795407
Doc Manhattan could kick Superman's ass. He's basically god. End of fucking discussion.
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>>695797246

Doctor Manhattan poses a fairly reasonable challenge to Superman Prime but he's still not capable of beating him. Dr Manhattan understands and can control every aspect of reality down to it's most minute detail..

Superman Prime can re-order reality on the fly in a manner that Manhattan cannot understand.

But then since he's a good guy he'd simply stop Manhattan from being created in the first place once he'd erased him from existence leaving Dr. Jonathan Osterman to live out his life in happiness as a regular human being.

"Welcome to my universe" Thanks for playing Dr. Manhattan.
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>>695797703
The Flash trying to kill Supes would kill Supes.
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>>695797999
SSJs confirmed to be supes killers
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>>695798044
Hulk loses every time. This is common knowledge, anon.
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>>695798182
Nothing but class here, my friend.
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>>695795407
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>>695797882
>No "there's nothing worth saving here" panel 0/10
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>>695795407
Doctor Manhattan for one.
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>>695798489
>mfw skin cancer kills superman
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>>695795407
Doomsday.
Give him some time, and there's no way Superman can win.
He's even said that Doomday's the only being in the universe that makes him fear for his life.
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>>695798489
>200 quintillion tons

Do these writers even fucking read what they put in their comics
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>>695795407
>>695796142
Deadpool kills both by killing their writers. Yes, he did that in a Marvel comic.
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>>695795407
>>695797995
>>695798536

last but not least
fuck you OP
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>>695798710
This.
Can't be killed.
Can teleport.
Can create autonomous, knowledge-sharing copies of himself.
Can manipulate unknown quantities of matter at a subatomic scale.
Knows the future.

I don't see how anything can beat him.
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DC heroes OP as fuck.
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>>695795407
Sonic the hedge hog
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>>695799140
I always thought DC was a bunch of faggotry...
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>>695795407

Shrek.
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>>695798017

He didn't have to but if he'd wanted to he could have just wished them into existence in his presence, studied them briefly, decided they were of no use to him, and gone on about his day.

I'm not arguing that he's a legitimate entry into a debate of this kind. I'm kind of doing the opposite. He's a complete rip-off in every sense. He's literally DC's version of every super hero that every child ever created that couldn't be defeated by anything or anyone anywhere, not even "time to come in for dinner".
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>>695799064
I gotta disagree with this one.
Even Reed Richards can beat him.

>>695798536
In Injustice, Superman beats him.
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>>695795407
mmmm strong
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>>695795407

God Emperor Trump.
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Nothing is stronger than Mighty Mouse
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>>695798489

And yet he did survive this, going on to become Superman Prime and living for all of eternity in a new Fortress of Solitude that he literally built inside a sun. He eventually became immortal and as he continues to live he continued to increase in power to the point where his abilities became immeasurable.
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>OP specifies "superHERO"
>faggots list villains
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>>695799312
The injustice version is weirdly weak.The new 52 version on the other hand...
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>>695795407
>Name a stronger superhero

Johnny.
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Fuck superman, here is a hero to destroy all others
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>>695799080

Yes, and Superman Prime can do all of that and more.
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>>695795407
squirrel girl
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>>695799312
>>695798536
>>695799064


>In Injustice, Superman beats him.
Cap can put up a fight with being able to control red sun radiation, but

Superman punched a hole in his containment suite in JLU cartoon

Wonder Woman slices his suite open in Injustice

Powergirl punched a hole though Major Force's suite which is basically the same thing.

Cap can't win
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richard simmons
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>>695795791
>>695795643
>>695795407
Squirrel girl can defeat them
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>>695799625
OUT. FUCKING. SKILLED.
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>>695798017
yes
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>>695800000
the quints are real
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>>695800000
Those are some nice zeros anon, did you get the Namekian dragon balls?
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>>695800000
fucking WASTED
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>>695800000
Holy shi-
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>Goku beating Superman

you people are fucking hilarious
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>>695799939

I need to find a way to have Anna Kendrick sit on my face while wearing her Squirrel Girl costume.
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>>695800000
yooooooooooooooo
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>>695800000
You about to be famous nigger
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>>695798941
Superman is a bigger meme than one punch man.
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Good sirs what was that all about?
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>>695800320
godspeed anon
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>>695800558
it's about you forgetting the pic
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>>695795407
Yfw his weakness is a rock
AND that batman has beaten him
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>>695795407
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>>695795407
jean gray using the phoenix force
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>>695800000
Oh shit
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>>695800777

Trips are truth.
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>>695800722
Batman is way smarter, had so much time to prepare, and used his only weakness, a rare rock from his home planet, against him.
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Captain citrus
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>>695798941
sure they do
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>>695800777
>superman spins around blowing it all away.
>superman blasts her head off with eye beams

try again. she's far too easy to beat
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>>695800000
oh shit bush did 9/11
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>>695800000
>>695800777
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>>695801198
Maybe if he totally lost his moral compass.
Even then, the Phoenix can just vaporize him with a single thought.
Same goes for Manhattan.
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>>695800777
nice choice
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>>695801540
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>>695797703
>That death battle

Their science is off throughout the entire thing.
At a power level of 15000 Vegeta can destroy a planet without exerting any effort. Goku at Super Saiyan 1 is 5.5 million. That's when he fought Frieza, as Frieza's 100% form is at 6 million. Now, consider this:
Imperfect Cell is at least twice as powerful as Frieza. He's beaten by Piccolo REALLY EASILY, who is at Android 17's level. He emerges later after eating the majority of the human population, much stronger than Piccolo and the Androids. Following this he gets stronger semi-linearly, absorbing both Androids 17 and 18. Let's say they're worth 3 Friezas each, and Imperfect Cell is worth 4. That makes him 10 Friezas in one Perfect Cell body.

Perfect Cell gets bodied by Gohan at SSJ2, who is at least 70 million, and returns stronger than ever following Goku's sacrifice. Now, he's strong enough to resist the attacks of Gohan, Piccolo, Krillin, Tien, and Yamcha. That's a combined total of 119 Friezas, and he's fucking withstanding it. It's not until Vegeta with a total of 70 million rushes in and joins in that Cell is killed.

Goku, at the start of the Buu saga, is beyond that. Super Saiyan 3 is enough to beat Majin Buu, whom is at the very least 100 million.
During Battle of Gods, Beerus is strong enough that a finger is enough to deflect Goku's measly SSJ3 attacks. However, Super Saiyan God not only pushes Beerus to his limit, but forces him to use 70% of his power. One can thus assume SSG is 70 times stronger, at least, than SSJ3. That's 700 million or above. And then, he learns to go Super Saiyan while in his God state. Super Saiyan is defined as a 200x boost to a Saiyan's strength, so Blue God Saiyan is now one hundred and forty billion.
And then he learns to use Kaio-ken times ten while a Blue Super Saiyan, making his power level one trillion and four hundred billion.

>tl:dr goku can destroy the earth 93333333 without even trying, and Superman is fucked.
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>>695800000
I MISSED THE QUINTS. ALL HAIL OUR LORD PATRICK BATEMAN FOR THIS FUCKING PENTAKILL.
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>>695801620
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>>695795407
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>>695800000
Fuckn checked
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>>695801680

>being this weeb
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>>695801620
dont worry superman can save those planets
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>>695796142
The flash is so fast he can go through time. Not even superman is that fast, no matter how much power he has.
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>>695797005
Ever hear about meat boy? He is immortal and indestructible, completely immune to everything. He transcends all. He was old before the existence of existence, and he will remain long after existence has ceased. If he wishes, he can create 20 quintillion billion infinite multi-multiverses or erase 65e999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 infinite multi-multiverses. He created the being that created the being that created the being that shat out Superman. Meat boy wins.
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>>695800000 I HAVE ASCENDED
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>>695795407
Errr.. the New 52 Superman is pretty weak. He literally just died and turned to ash.
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>>695801927
People just don't get how powerful Goku is dawg. Someone needs to teach them. Unless Superman can destroy a planet at least a million times with minimal effort, he's not a match.
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>>695802085
he spun the world around and went back in time are you retarded
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>>695800000
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>>695800000
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>>695795407
Dr Manhattan
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>>695802072
You know it's funny when you think about it.

Unless Superman was carrying another sun on him those inhabitants would all die on the way there due to having no source of heat for however long it took him to bring them to a new one..
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>>695795407
Do you even?
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>>695802175

DCYou was an abomination. Like superman losing his power and turning into a 250lb linebacker
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>>695802462
not to forget the giant hole in the planet from the chain
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>>695798324
>Not realizing this whole arc with Rebirth is Doc Manhattan created the DCU in it's entirety.
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>>695795407
Better yet
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>>695802072
>countless billions
>7 billion
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Batman you little nigger
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>>695802728
how do you even come to that number? he has more than 7 planets in tow and what makes you think there are only 1 billion on each?
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Not a superhero, but Supes would definitely lose to Madara Uchiha.
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>>695799877
Post source or gtfo.
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>>695802462
The shift in momentum would also kill everyone.
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>>695802857
Are you actually retarded
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>>695802727
ozzie osbourne?
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>>695802566
The ore of the earth is enough to maintain steady levels of heat, yes it would be very very very cold but enough to survive((as long as they make buildings and shelter in time))
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>>695802992
One above all.
Ultimate power in the omniverse
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>>695802955
Superman can't beat his Genjutsu, and even if he can, Madara still has really good Ninjutsu too. No contest.
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>>695795407
The Flash is the strongest superhero of all time, proven.
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>>695802955
Can anyone ACTUALLY beat Madara Uchiha, though?
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>>695802727
the one above is god and he is far from being a superhero
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>>695795407
Doop/thread
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>>695803085
Superman has resisted multiple more powerful mind control users than madara,
Ninjutsu is chi based, not magical based. Superman can only be damaged by extremely powerful magic and physical force. Neither of which fall under the classification of chi.
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>>695803198
Plus, he's not minority.
Being a non-minority in Marvel means you're weak as shit.
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>>695803037
The planet would break.
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>>695800000
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>>695803336
>Forgetting that Madara has Taijutsu
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>>695803354
Just no, >>695803198
What is superman? I'm pretty sure he just creates superpowers as he sees fit. And superman prime is a god.
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>>695800000
its over 9000!!!
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>>695803606
Forgetting that madara can't explode the earth in one punch. Which would be needed many times over to damage superman. Look I love nature as much as the next guy, but they aren't on scale with marvel and dc as far as scale of power.
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Captain Boomerang
GG
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>>695803656
Sups prime is omnipotent, but not a god. he is bound by the physical limitations of the universe
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>>695803994
Name one physical limitation he follows? He breaks nearly every law of physics.
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>>695795407
These two would destroy superman. However, since you stated for me to state a "superhero", you win by your own Bulls hit rules.
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>>695804140
That's why he's a joke.
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>>695803994
Even if you disprove one above all, you can't disprove a number of far more powerful marvel characters
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>>695803829
I feel like there's been a serious miscommunication. Let me make it clear I'm talking about Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikodou abilities and being capable of both Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi genjutsu), equipped with his Gunbai, a perfect Susano’o, control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu. Now, can anyone even HOPE to TOUCH him, let alone beat him? Even if they are Superman.
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>>695795407
By the eye of Agamotto, by the hoary hosts of hoggoth, the sorcerer supreme and master of the mystic arts has arrived

"Whatever befall, the world must never know the full mystic power of Dr. Strange"
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Superman is not invulnerable to magic, and ghost rider is crazy strong
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>>695804412
fuck off with that retarded shit again
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>>695804412
Specifically, Nicholas Cage Ghost ider.
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>>695804412
Venom beat Ghost Rider, and so did the Punisher.
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>>695804140
But the thing is he hasn't remade the universe. this means he does have a theoretical limit to his power, of about 14 billion years/lightyears if the flash was to escape that he could effectively defeat superman by causing him to expend all of his energy to break the big bang
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>>695804283
Let's get one thing straight. I don't care how many words you add on to him, he can't destroy the planet. Not even the sage of the six paths had that power.
It would take far more than the maximum power he could ever produce in the entire history of the shinobi world to even damage him.
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>>695804647
Canon: Meat Boy just killed Superman.
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>>695804615
Punisher kills the marvel universe doesn't count, he shoots Hulk to death in that
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>>695804647
Fair, I'll end my one above all argument. But there are still many superheroes that have nearly equally amount of power that was naturally born.
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>>695797005
Except atheists.
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>>695795407
I know a few anons have already said this, but

FUCKING
SQUIRREL
GIRL
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>>695804657
Yeah, Madara is over-powered as fuck compared to other naruto characters, but he's not a god
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>>695804948
She is a non canon joke character. GTFO
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>>695804836
Happened last year in Thunderbolts. It was within 616 continuity.
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>>695802856
LOL God creating more than 7,000,000,000 humans on different planets for no reason.

Read the bible dude.
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>>695805011
she is canon
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>>695804657
>>695804980
Maybe I should truly reveal my point.

I’m talking about sagemode sage of the six paths Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Legendary Super Saiyan 4 Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, and Geass doujutsus, equipped with his Shining Trapezohedron while casting Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann as his Susanoo, controlling the Gold Experience Requiem stand, having become the original vampire after having absorbed Alucard as well as a God Hand, able to tap into the speedforce, wearing the Kamen Rider Black RX suit, with Kryptonian DNA implanted in him and having eaten Popeye’s spinach while possessing quantum powers like Dr. Manhattan and having mastered Hokuto Shinken.

That's the TRUE Madara, and he can EASILY beat Superman.
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>>695795407
Batman.

Superman is actually very weak, the sun amplifies his base power by exponential amounts. However, Batman has no modifiers and is still able to defeat even the strongest supervillains. Given the same buffs that Superman has Batman would be undeatable.
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>>695805011
>joke character
So is Superman.
Squirrel Girl ftw.

Dubs.
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The Beyonder?

The Presence?

The One Above All?

Squirell Girl?

The Flash?
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>>695805080
Fuck off b8
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Puberty.
Because when you grow up and realize nobody gives a fuck, they all become drawings on a page that aren't worth anything but the hours you wasted dreaming about having some kind of non-normal, dreary, boring life.
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>>695805011
Nah, she's real and lives in 616.
Her book also has some of the worst art I've ever seen. It's supposed to be q comedy book, but the only times it's made me laugh were unintentional
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>>695805130
God.. G8 b8 m8 11/10
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>>695805130
Thread
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>>695805024
He wins in the same way Batman "wins" against superman. Realistically it's bullshit but for the sake of an interest in story it happens
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>>695805130
Numen Rider would destroy him without a thought.
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>>695795407
>Franklin Richards

Since he has the power of creating and destroying anything with just a simple thought. He can just eliminate Supes just by thinking about it. This also would apply to Superman Prime the most OP Superman of all time.
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>>695805130
lost at popeyes spinach
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>>695805130
I was about to disagree, but then I saw "Popeye's spinach" and I realized that your argument was flawless
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>>695805327
Batman won in a non-canon story. Punisher's win was retarded, but was fully canon
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Just who in the hell do you think you're talking about? Simon with Gurren Lagann would beast on Superman.
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>>695795895
That's not even from the comics or a movie. They kill each other dumb ass = not stronger
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>>695805416
Gotta love Marvel fanboys.

Bless their hearts.
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>>695796082
Is this real
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>>695805309
>>695805130
Madara isn't a super hero fuck nut
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>>695802295
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>>695805681
He's in a manga, which is a Japanese comic book, so he's fair game.
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>>695805473
Hellfire, being mystical, would hurt superman the same way it would hurt anyone else who doesn't have a magic resistance. Someone like Doctor Fate or Zatanna
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Alright.

Doctor Manhattan.
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>>695805660
I actually don't know much about Marvel or DC. I just remember someone posting Richards in a thread earlier. Since I couldn't see any prior postings with CTRL +f. I figured, I'd post it.
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>>695805680
I take it you weren't around for the Fappening
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>>695805660
Shit up dc whore.
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>>695805802
Punisher chocked GR our with his own chain. He has no resistance to Hellfire.
Superman could just tackle the guy going at light speed.
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>>695805201
flash is too much of a pussy.

that's proven in Injustice
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>>695795407
>Batman
Just watched Batman vs Superman, could have killed him if he wanted.
>superhero
If you're going to cry he's not a superhero because he's human, then you're a faggot.

>you're actually a faggot anyway
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>>695805660
It's astounding to think anyone could remain a Marvel fan, even with how much Marvel loves spitting in their face.
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Do you think a fight with wolverine would end in a stalemate? Wolverine, in his prime, had the strongest healing factor and would regenerate within minutes. But superman just wouldn't be penetrated by his claws
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>>695806313
And Superman could have killed Batman .025 seconds into the fight if he wanted.
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>>695806192
story? I'm not into comics.
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>>695806192
Alright so I don't read comics but my friend does so that's how I know about these characters. Why was he too much of a pussy in your pic related?
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>>695806486
Superman could definitely drown him.
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>>695806486
Not close. Wolverine would be tough for him to heal since he can fully regen from a single drop of blood, but superman when enraged can vaporize entire planets with his heat vision. Every molecule would be destroyed.
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>>695806766
Kill*
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>>695806504
Realistically Bam Ham could've just built a fucking helmet out of Kryptonite and shot Superman in the face because he was stupid enough to get close to him.

That entire movie was so fucking stupid.
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>>695795512
oh well if we're talking anime then just about any soul reaper from bleach would be able to kick his ass without him ever seeing it coming even this pussy
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>>695806828
Superman could have just melted Batman from space.
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>>695806504
>Superman could have killed Batman .025 seconds into the fight if he wanted

But he didn't, Batman laid out a series of traps, he knew exactly what was going to happen.

Superman is all muscle, no brains. Batman is all brains, and no muscle.. in comparison to Superman.

Do you really think Batman laid those traps to kill him, or anger him to the point where he wouldn't think.
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>>695806766
But do the beams go so hot they can melt Adamantum? Because he has been a fighting metal skeleton before
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>>695806002
I was, I didn't know Melissa was part of it. Any more?
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>>695795407
>powerman
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>>695807179
I think so, I can't cite it but there is a similar metal in the do universe and superman could melt it if enough power is used.
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>>695800000
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>>695806766
Lobo can regen from a single drop of blood too. Superman's solution? Threaten to fly him into the sun
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>>695807093
Superman is a genius. Canon and cited. Process faster than super computers. Nice try.
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>>695806828
And Superman could fry him from a mile away with his heat vision. Even in your scenario Superman could kill Batman instantly. Superman moves at supersonic speeds. Batman would have a fist through his chest in the blink of an eye. The kryptonite couldn't work fast enough to prevent a 1,000 mph fist from hitting his chest.
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>>695807507
It would weaken the fist?
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Fuck all your wimpy bitch ass superheroes!

Mr. Satan owns all!
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>>695801680
Literally not a single number you stated is correct. SS is 50x, friezas 100% is 60 million, etc
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How Superman can beat the Harry Potter. Superman can't beat Magic and Harry Potter has invisible.
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>>695807631
Omg batman in a real life situation can't beat superman in anyway. Just toss him into space. Or idk shoot him with a gun.
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>>695807093
Superman didn't want to kill him. He said as much. Superman wanted Batman's help to stop Luthor.
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>>695807179
Wasn't Wolverine's adamantium grafted to his skeleton in a liquid state? I feel like if humans in a lab can melt it, Superman probably could.
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>>695801680
damn niga. get out the basement and get some D on your skin.
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>>695807507
Realistically the kryptonite would disable his powers when he went into range. And a person travelling at 1000 miles an hour hitting a brick wall is fucking paste.

That being said I was mostly commenting on how that movie was fucking trash, not on if Superman would beat Batman or not.
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Flash could beat superman
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>>695807484
>Superman is a genius. Canon and cited. Process faster than super computers.

Yet Batman beat him, Superman isn't a genius, he's a muscled idiot who has an ego he likes to stroke.

During the fight whilst getting hit with the traps, he kept reminding Batman of how easy it would be to finish him.

Whenever he did throw a punch, Batman took it.. and led him right to where he wanted, down the rabbit hole which had the end result of the death of Superman.
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>>695807093
>Superman is all muscle, no brains
I'm pretty sure Superman is a genius. Kryptonians are a super advanced race that mastered interstellar travel. Even if Superman doesn't have their knowledge, potential is likely far beyond a typical human's.
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>>695807727
Toriyama himself said Super Saiyan was 10x what he had achieved previously. Given that Goku can obtain 20x Kaioken it can be assumed Super Saiyan is a 200x increase, bro.

I lowballed Frieza though, I admit. I was running out on characters and had to take the part out where I admitted I was using WILDLY conservative numbers. Like, for instance, Cell only being stronger than an Android by one Frieza, or, shit, Androids only being worth three Friezas.
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>>695800000
>00000
witnessed
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>>695808104
>Batman beat him

No, Batman took advantage of the fact that Superman refuses to disintegrate him. Beating up someone who could kill you before you could form a thought but refuses to doesn't make you a badass, it makes you an insecure douche.
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>>695808160
toriyama cant even remember his own characters or what he wrote last week
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>>695807797
>implying I haven't watched the movie

Batman knew Superman wouldn't be there to outright kill him. He however didn't listen to Superman's pleads of help and irritated him to the point where he had him right where he wanted. The end of his spear, ready to pierce his heart.
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>>695808470
He may be a dementia-ridden fuck, but he's still the guy who writes the story.
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>>695808151
he however was brought up under the American school system
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This:
>>695808470
Is exactly why this:
>>695807726
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>>695800318
webm of the year award
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>>695807365
correct answer
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>>695807797
He also said he'd have to kill him if he wouldn't comply. He didn't comply.
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>>695808379
>beating up someone who could inst-kill you doesn't make you a badass
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>>695807631
Ever heard of momentum? 230 lbs traveling 1,000+ mph is going to wreck pretty much anything it hits. And the the time Superman enters the krytonite's field of effect to when he reaches Batman would be like a few milliseconds. Even if it somehow started to weaken him, he wouldn't feel it's effects until well after the blow landed.
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I still think Madara would win, tbh
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>>695803699
underrated post
9000/695800000
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>>695808379
>Batman took advantage
Yes. Batman took advantage of the situation, and that gave him the victory in the battle against Superman.

I don't understand why you butt-hurt Superman fans can't come to the realisation under no circumstances, the end result is what matters.

and what was that result..? Batman toying with Superman, a second from killing him. Batman gave Superman mercy, he's a true hero.

>insecure douche

What, how is he? Superman was ready to kill Batman for his mother, that makes him a monster with the powers he has. He's no hero at that point, he's the villain.
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jesus christ
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Superman single handedly killed the Anti-Monitor, Dark Monitor and Monarch.

He lives in The Bleed, which seriously fucks up anyone who even just passes through it.

He lifted infinite and moved eternity

When there was a threat to all existence, the Monitors called upon Superman and no one else.
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Gog...Guy that killed him multiple times
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>>695809039
>Superman single handedly killed the Anti-Monitor, Dark Monitor and Monarch.
>He lives in The Bleed, which seriously fucks up anyone who even just passes through it.
>He lifted infinite and moved eternity
>When there was a threat to all existence, the Monitors called upon Superman and no one else.

Yet Batman gave him mercy.
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>>695808999
>Superman was ready to kill Batman

No. Even Batman freely admits if Superman wants him dead, he's dead.
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>>695809027
zues
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>>695808835
>this
Superman is considered a God amongst men, and with Batman being man he made a God kneel.

Batman is a mother fucking badass.
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This thread should be named apples and oranges instead
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I love when people use the Injustice series as a reference for Superman. He is nowhere near his full power in that series. This is especially true now that pre-New 52 Superman is back in the main story arcs.
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>>695795407
Anon watched BvS again tonight
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>>695809356
>No. Even Batman freely admits if Superman wants him dead, he's dead.

That's why he played his cards right.

YET AGAIN! Let's just all come to the realisation that BATMAN did in fact have SUPERMAN at the end of his spear, ready to KILL him.

Batman is a genius. Doesn't need to process thoughts at speeds faster than super computers, slow and steady won it for him.
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>>695808379
Superman was going to kill him. Are you retarded?

Superman came with the intent to kill Batman, he said so himself. Either Batman helps him or he dies. Superman didn't go all out at the beginning, but neither did Batman.

Superman had plenty of time to get back up and fight. Batman just planned the whole battle out and won. Get over yourself.
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>>695809580
but every reference to injustice is on superman's side
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>>695797703
>using Death Battle

Well that's just an absurd level of stupid,
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>>695809448
It's like the Dalai Lama having an AR-15 and someone slapping the shit out of him because he knows he's a pacifist.
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>>695809807
>Superman didn't go all out at the beginning, but neither did Batman.

>this

As I've said many times in this thread already, Batman TEASED Superman to the point of irritation and anger until he couldn't think straight and fall straight into the traps laid out just for him.

>>695809356
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>>695807903
I don't think it works like that. Superman had that shit coursing through his veins and Batman's punches couldn't even draw blood. It doesn't weaken Superman's chemical bonds, it just kills his cells. That's why the spear was the only thing that could cut him.
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>>695809580
New 52 superman is dead.
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>>695806240
the TRUE HERO
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Picture related. The only way to beat him is to bug out the universe and create a paradox in which he is never created, which isn't possible because he created everything that exists. He's orchestrated the creation and destruction of several universes, has near-omnipotent servants under his command, and his only weakness is his own self. And look how fucking jacked he is, he could put Superman in the cobra clutch in two seconds.
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>>695810045
*sigh*
>>695809807
>this

It's not like giving the Dalai Lama an AR-15, Superman HAS killed before.
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>>695808677
Intelligence is mostly genetic.
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>>695809806
There is no playing his cards right. Superman didn't kill him because he didn't want to. That's it.

Superman can burn a hole through his head from space. He didn't because he didn't want to

Superman can throw a building on him from three cities over. He didn't because he didn't want to.

Superman can freeze him and shatter him into a million pieces. He didn't because he didn't want to.
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>>695810112
Batman gave him a nosebleed. Punched the bugger square in the nose he did.
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>>695801352
The meme that keeps on memeing
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At the end of the day, the point of this thread should be that OP is wrong.

There are plenty of heroes, villains and other beings that are PLENTY stronger than Superman.
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>>695810112
You could see his powers faltering in the presence of the Kryptonite spear. In addition, Doomsday was able to impale him when he was weakened by it, where previously he was not.

And if it just killed his cells, he would've died in two seconds when the Kryptonite dust hit his brain and paralyzed him. My thinking is that those bombs were heavily diluted.
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>>695808494
That's not the point were are discussing. He are talking a bout a fight devoid of plot.
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>>695796142

pretty much the only real match ups for him are God classes of the same power level or higher from anime and novels
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>>695809861
Except every reference to Alfred beating him, or literally any other character that beats him in that series.

It literally happened in this thread already.
>>695797882
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>>695807835
the thing was, unprocessed adamantium could be melted down, but once cooled it is indestructible
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>>695810603
ok...that's one out of 20.
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>>695810548
>PLENTY stronger than Superman.

Except there aren't. Superman is sci-fi Jesus. He's as strong as he needs to be. Comic fans know this and that's it's pointless to put him in theoretical fights.
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>>695810124
Yes, I know. Go back and read what I said. Pre-New 52 Superman is back.
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