What Empire you think contributed the most?
Science, Technology etc etc.
The United States of America
>>694173574
British empire of course
>>694173574
The Dutch plus Portogoose. Enjoy your nig-nogs, 'murica.
Roman
>>694173574
the romans were good but they stagnated and then when it collapsed a lot of their progress was lost. tbh it was pretty obviously the brits - modern science, systems of government and justice, industrial revolution etc. they basically set down the framework of the modern western world
>>694173574
>Alexander the Great's empire
>it didn't last long
>it didn't have centralized government
BUT:
>he taught everyone greek
>he preserved greek philosophy/science
>the whole of european culture rests upon this philosophy&science
>>694173574
The Third
>>694174365
>a lot of their progress was lost.
What is the Byzantine Empire? They're famous for preserving Roman and Greek teachings and traditions.
>>694173574
Roman empire
>>694174843
/thread
gotta go with America
>the moon
>the internet
>2 world war victories
>defeated the cmmunists
>brought capitalism to the world
>atom bomb
>light bulb/electrcity
>iPhone
>>694175124
until they declined and got overrun. what would you say their lasting international legacy was?
>>694176111
The British Empire
>United the Indian city states
>Founded modern America
>Founded modern Australia
>Founded modern Canada
>Introduced law, education, government and public transport to dozens of countries
>Invented modern world trade ports
>Invented the train
>Introduced canals as industrial transport
>Invented the Iron ship and the twin hull
>Founding fathers of world democracy
>Introduced hospitals
>The Commonwealth
>Abolished slavery
>Invented Greenwich Mean Time - by which the whole world sets its clocks.
Not bad for a little island bobbing around in the sea.
>>694176111
thicc bayte
>>694173877
this
>>694173680
>>694176111
>>694176111
>moon
Credited to Germany and their scientists, and completely unimportant
>atom bomb
See above
>light bulb
Tesla would have probably made it by then, since he was much more intelligent than Edison
>war victories
You weren't alone, and you were pretty isolated both times
>defeated communists
Unimportant, either ideology works, you just tried to impose yours
>brought capitalism
See above, also capitalism was invented long before America was even founded, it was just reinvented
>iPhone
Oh, you're baiting.
>>694173574
The Mu'tazila Caliphate. It preserved and enhanced the Greek philosophy and science and made it available as foundation of the post-Roman Europe.
I'd go for the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria.
>>694176470
Yup, definitely the surprising over-achiever of the world
>>694176111
Is this the ultimate bait?
>>694177168
>light bulb
>tesla
Nope, it was Swan. Edison was just a thief, but yeah, tesla probably would have got it eventually.
>>694173574
The Persians. They established the first "global" (minus Western Hemisphere) trading community. They also made many of the most important advances in math, astronomy, and architecture.
>>694176470
>purposely induced famines in India killing 20m+ people
>didn't create roads and transport systems between towns, only between strategic locations for the Empire
>invented concentration camps
Egypt.
>>694173574
Not an empire but in greeks polis was born the western civilization. Philosophy, biology, literature, sciencie, everything. Romans only bring it back these things really
Mongolian Empire.
Not the nicest bunch of people, but they connected the east and west. This prompted the move of technology pivotal to the European enlightenment period.
>gunpowder
>printing press
>making anime real
>spaghetti
Now you could credit Marco polo with the European "discovery" of the far east, and say that the silk road only extended to the middle east and west Africa. Both are true. But it was this land route that negated the need to travel months and sometimes years around 2 giant continents by boat. And it was the cultural osmosis between near east and west that lifted Europe out of its dark age.
So why Mongolia, again? The age of Mongolian supremacy led to the most peaceful period in the Caucasus mountains and Gobi desert. There was no other feasible way to run a lifeline between east and near east and then, by proxy, the west.
also
>United States is an empire, look up what that word means
>>694177886
>invented concentration camps
We didn't invent concentration camps.
They existed long before the Boer war.
The ones we did have held prisoners - they weren't extermination camps.
>didn't create roads and transport systems between towns, only between strategic locations for the Empire
Actually the British did oversee the building of roads all across india. We also guarded our trade routes and ensured the safety of our workers - most of whom were paid and housed.
>purposely induced famines in India killing 20m+ people
This is a myth - the famines of British India were caused by recorded poor weather and poor crop conditions. They happened before British rule, and after as well.
Keep trying though - i'm sure uniting your country, democratising it, trading with it, and giving it law, order, technology, healthcare and industry was probably a bad thing in some way...
>>694177824
I can do you one better.
>>694179336
Have you ever been to India? No.
Ask the Indian people who were there under the British rule and ask them if the are thankful.
>>694177886
>implying curry niggers shouldn't be purged
>implying curry niggers shouldn't be rounded up
>>694179845
Yes, I have been to India - several times.
And while they are not grateful for British influence, they do at least acknowledge its significance in the creation of modern india.
>>694180085
>invade india
>hate indians
english people never made much sense
>>694177168
>moon landing completely unimportant
wat
>>694176435
>>694176551
>>694177017
>>694177168
>>694177661
>ITT Europigs mad because their countries are 3rd world shitholes. America #1.
>>694180249
Cool, if you've been to India several times. Upload some pics of your trip :)
>>694180324
India was given all the tools it needed to become a modernised civilisation - and yet they still live like animals.
>>694173574
Honestly why did they never wall off the north of Italy, they built hadrian's wall which was pretty much equal in size. If they walled off Italy we'd all be speaking a modern latin right now.
>>694180541
I dont take pictures when i'm visiting my brothers you asshole.
>>694180324
I'm not the same anon you were talking to, I'm a Kiwi.
You guys are shit-tier Jews.
>>694180362
It was a pissing contest. It's unimportant since it had no real benefits other than showing off rocket technology.
>>694180541
pic from my trip
>>694180581
why did you idiots even go there? What did they have, that you need? Curry? You don't even like fucking curry.
>>694180401
>Taking credit for national GDP
>GDP being what the wealthy benefit from
hows those roads paved with gold, basementlurker?
>>694176470
Those fags were floating around on board for hundreds of years until Americans invented flight.
>>694180901
I'd say it inspired a whole generation of modern day scientists, it was instrumental in garnering public attention for modern technology.
>>694180897
>You guys are shit-tier Jews
bro, who the shit said I was indian?
>>694180981
To civilise the savages, why else?
>>694180893
Of course, not one single picture! Man i bet it was a great trip!
>>694180981
Spice.
>>694181097
I just assumed, you seemed pretty defensive.
The Nazi Regime. I learned a lot from them, like how to live my life, for example
>>694180732
Alps
>>694180981
minerals, spices, textiles, precious metals and gems, tea, manpower...
Lots of stuff bro
Can't believe anything other than Greeks isn't being laughed at.
>>694181117
and why would you wanna do that?
>>694181163
britfarts can't stomach spiced food, you know this.
>>694181166
nah, just wondering what the whole invading and civilizing shit is all about.
>>694181437
Well this is an empire thread. Not overall contribution by a people.
>>694181437>>694174843
And the third Reich, no one's laughing there anymore
>>694181611
They took India because it was an investment, they had lots of resources which the British exploited. In return, the English brought education and civilisation, none of which they've really put to good use except using their English to move to the West and leech off their economies.
>>694173574
Greece, until they got butt-fucked by the sand niggers
>>694181611
>britfarts can't stomach spiced food, you know this.
You may want to google "British national dish"...
>>694181405
you already had minerals in Africa, spices are too harsh for your lilly bellies, textiles can be produced and found everywhere, metal and germs are found in Africa too and manpower.. ? Indians are weaklings, compared to black nigger specimens.
>>694181799
spotted dick
>>694181437
Greek empire? lolwut
Greeks couldn't even manage an economy propped up by an economic powerhouse.
>>694180324
Well do you expect them to invade their friends/allies instead of people they hate?
>>694181790
so all in all, it was helluva shitty investment. Got it.
>>694181799
>You may want to google "British national dish"...
>chicken tikka masala
lol britbongs, your watered down masala would make a desi child laugh. Your national dish is fucking fish & chips, mate. The most spicy part being the malt vinegar.
>>694182028
Is Greece an empire right now?
>>694182184
they only started hating the fuckers, after invading. Maybe, just a thought, how about not invading shit at all?
>>694182201
It was profitable until they educated the shitskins and they started demanding independence, was all downhill from there.
>>694173574
Not Rome. I too made the common mistake of assuming that because Rome grew enormous and extremely wealthy, all manner of wonderous innovations came from it. Then I actually spent a few years studying history, and found out how wrong I was. Rome so believed in conquest that it nearly all of the great innovations often mistakenly attributed to it came from elsewhere though conquest, most of them not even intentionally, but in a haphazard, careless way that cost every civilization including rome itself dearly. Once the Jews rolled in (thx u jews) with their old egyptian treasure cache, Rome suddenly became quite good at law, and incredibly rich. But culturally, it saw no point in pure research, and never understood why the greeks did. Rome scored its innovations through conquest, destroying other cultures, and once back, if sifting through the loot some soldiers grabbed from a sacked town, there was some curiosity that piqued interest, it may be put to use, but often times, those innovations sat on shelves for generations before someone noticed them and took an interest in them.
The #1 thing Rome "contributed" was the idea that a total power/total wealth scheme could be a fucking animalistic domineering asshole for a while. before tearing itself to pieces from within and without. But we already knew that because Carthage demonstrated it when Rome was still an obnoxious neighborkid. Hell the only reason we have any greek philosophy, politics & law at all is because after Rome destroyed it and killed everyone worth a shit, a few soldiers safed some of their work in a pile of other junk, which was ignored for centuries until someone picked it up as a curiosity and went, "hey, you remeber these guys we destroyed, listen to this shit, some of this stuff is breddy gud".
Basically rome was shit. Just a very big, and fairly long shit.
It;s still my favorite place, but fuck it if they weren't barbarossa.
>>694182201
>Your national dish is fucking fish & chips, mate
kek
>>694182253
I think you're either referring to the Hellenic Empire , which was Macedonian (a people the Greeks did not consider remotely Greek).
Or the Byzantine Empire, which was a government and military institution set up by the Romans.
"Greeks" did not have an empire, because when you gather a room full of Greek people together they fuck each other to death.
>>694182201
I hate the term Desi. All I associate with it are fat chicks on the internet.
>>694182469
so, they should've stayed home.
>>694180581
They don't want to life like you?
Gee I fucking can't imagine why.
>>694173574
Ohh easy the asians they invented sticks that you can eat with
>>694182756
desi desu to you senpai
>we multiculti now
>>694180981
mainly for trade, heck most of the reason why kingdoms and empires go to war is to be rich just hide it under religious reasons.
>>694182536
Hellenic Empire and Greek Empire are tautonymous terms.
>Macedons were not Greeks.
8/8
>>694181402
because they will totally stop an army marching through the many passages and the lowlands near genoa, and venice
>>694182763
No, your logic is flawed.
>>694181437
city states isn't an empire.
>>694176470
>Abolished slavery
Well so did Sweden after their empire during the 18th century, and many many other countries. Lincoln had to fight to force half the continent, while the swedes growed the fuck up.
Except they fucked it all up in the end, and should reinforce slavery and prima nocta.
>>694182989
So I assume the Illyrians, Odrysians and other proto-slavs were Greek too, because they lived nearby and copied some of their culture.
>>694183017
great counter there, brah bruh.
>>694183093
I do believe he means when they stopped being a city state, and were an Empire.
>>694173574
Well, Merkel is done as of 2016.
Rising german right-wing sentiment has a year left to get a reasonable sounding candidate together to score the position.
After that, France will walk from the EU, and if France goes, so will go NL and Sweden. ...Leaving a euro union comprised of Germany and a bunch of debtor nations to it, which germany and brussels both have a vested interest in managing economically and defending from a growing russian threat to the east. At that point, might as well call it what it is, a new de facto german empire.
Without doing a fucking thing to directly pursue it, this scenario could land square on germanys face.
>>694176111
Pretty much. The internet is this exponential thing that trumps everything and continues to make humanity even better.
inb4 some Brit tries to argue they invented it because they invented the protocol that rests neatly on top of the American concept of networked computers.
Even >>694177168 didn't contest it.
/thread
>>694180893
>>694180964
Someone is lying.
>>694183695
>proto-slavs
>Slavs being anywhere near the balkans before medieval ages
Stop typing.
Third reich:
Rockets,
Moonlanding (designed by nazis so fuck you amerifags) operation "paperclip" readup
The First assault Rifle (Stg44)
Volkswagen cars
Jet Aircraft
Nuclear Bomb (Started develovement)
Stealth fighter/ "flying wing" design
Hand held anti-air rockets
Guided missiles
First troop/ material Transport aircraft
Night vision
Helicopters
First programmable computer
Programming language
Stereoscopic filming
Fanta
Fashionable hugo boss uniforms
>>694184323
>Slavs being anywhere near the balkans before medieval ages
then where were they?
WHERE
WERE
THE SLAVS?
squatting underground?
>>694184323
>proto
the fuck are you on? are you even trying?
>>694184434
>lasted 13 years
>costed 55 million lives
>great leader offs himself
impressive
>>694173574
From before history until 1905, the Chinese Empire endured while all others fell. It took 250 of mismanagement by corrupt foreigners, the combined might of the strongest nations of Europe plus America, and three civil wars to topple it. Even while they were busy killing each other in the longest and bloodiest civil war of the 20th Century, they remained independent in the face of a decade long foreign invasion.
And the goddamned commies are pretty much running things like the Chinese Empire has always run things.
>What Empire contributed the most?
>The only one that never stopped
Behind the Carpathian mountains, you uneducated swine.
>>694177824
This
>>694184740
I assume you're drunk, cause posting seems hard for you. Guess where the Illyrians came from?
Again
>proto
Summer sure is heating up in here.
>>694184466
for an example
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croats
>>694184723
For 6,000 years the Chinese didn't advance at all in technology. Still living in stick huts when the Europeans arrived in steam ships with rifles.
Objectively the empire that added the largest number of inventions and the most high tech inventions is the American empire. From internet, electricity, air flight, submarines, moon landers, Mars rovers, etc.
The Chinese invented simple things that cavemen could make like spoons and eating with sticks.
>>694184434
>designed, didn't build
>started development, didn't build
>design, didn't build
Codeword for failure. You know who actually made all those things work? Americans. Germans couldn't accomplish anything. At the end of WW2 they were still using the same fighter planes they were in 1933 and they never even developed bombers. Worst country ever. At the end of the war they were far behind the tech curve.
>>694185090
TL;DR
give me the low down bro, you saying the slavs are dinaric?
>>694184545
Wrong quote buddy.
>>694183695
No because they did not share in on the culture and civilization. If you're looking for genetic homogeneity, I suggest you test your own dna. The sooner you get the cultural shock out of the way, the better for yourself.
The Greeks invented humanism. Period. I won't bother with any particular inventions, the theatre, the Olympics, or the fact that they almost brought about the Industrial Revolution many, many centuries before Westerners did. They brought the divine down to our level, making Gods human and Humans divine. Plus, every scientific school of thought can be ultimately broken down to Plato, Aristotle, and Socrates.
You can dislike the modern Greeks. Not because they mixed with everyone (just like your own people), from Italians to Arabs and Slavs. But because they no longer adhere to the same core values as the people who lived there 3000 years ago did. But that's as far as you can go. Wanna piss on classical Greece too? Fine by me, but there's a reason every Dark Age we've had was characterised by the fact that the majority of people turned their backs on classical culture and civilization.
>>694184434
Let's not also forget leaps and bounds in medical advancement. Most modern medicine is based on German research.
>>694185132
lel
Chinese invented simple things, like writing, printing, gunpower, chemistry, artificial psychedelic drugs, anaesthesia, and the wheelbarrow.
The wheelbarrow is always the one that gets me. No one thought of it until the 3rd Century AD, until some Chinese guy needed a better way to carry shit on plank roads sticking out the side of a mountain.
>>694184102
>baltic nations owe germany their economies
>Germany reengineers their societies to effinciency
>updates their factories and skillz
>puts balties to work to get them to make it its $ back
>governments get lean
>ppl get productive
>goods & services flow
>better fir krauts
>better for baltics
>nato is idle threat over latvia anyway
>germanistan has entwined industry & politics
>has right-wing chancellor in charge
>has brussels in pocket
>invents everything in the 21nd century
>economic & techno superpowder achieved
>scary technorogy again
>Rusk nukes up
>USA nukes up
>krautwagen hauls nukes too
>ushers in a new era of techno dreams and military nightmares
>puts humans in space bc doin it right this time
>man spreads like a plague thru solar system
>japandroids flying out of everywhere hunting them down to cleanse the universe of the human plague
>a new era of peace and prosperity has begun
>and also robo sex
>>694184434
Almost all of this list is wrong. Nazis never made stealth and the flying wing wasn't stealth at all. Nazi jet aircraft never went anywhere. A Volkswagen isn't an invention. Planning a moon landing isn't actually doing one. The first programmable computer was British.
>>694177168
>ITT: People who don't know anything about history.
>>694173830
/thread
Seriously, if the USA was an empire that would be the answer, since everything after the second industrial revolution in technology was either primarily USA or entirely USA. However, the British Empire is to thank for making Western civilization what it is.
>>694173877
Two greatly insignificant cultures that perfected a few technologies and barely had any innovation or high academic accomplishment.
clearly no one did what turks or ottoman did in general history.. now they're just a fucked up virus tho
>>694173574
british empire you fucking retard.
our allegiances with unconquered countries primarily consisted of the exchange of knowledge
>>694175124
In the sense that they're famous for failing to preserve those things, then... yes.
>>694186354
>no one did what turks or ottoman did in general history
Lose every single battle in the First World War that they started?
>>694186354
Do tell.
>>694179845
The lack of gratitude from a population of woefully under educated people with a strong history of creating terribly corrupt governments due to political ignorance is not a strong argument
>>694180901
The spinoffs from this program created a revolution in technlogy, much like the LHC is continuing to do today. You're ignorant of scientific history. Opinion safely discarded.
>>694185883
Boeing reproduced the Horten 229, charcoal surface texture and all, and found it was indeed stealth after all, not to modern systems, but to the crude systems they were aware the brits had at that time. As well, they designed it specifically to not have any vertical surfaces so it could hug the channel low under the radar, pop up at the last second, and remove the time the limeys had been using to respond to the attack.
First steath plane.
It's in a restoration hangar near the Air & space museum at the moment. I just saw it last weekend. The us army got the planes and most of the engineers, who were put to work and made their way into the skunkworks team. Where they continued their work on up through the 1970s, on aircraft our military still flies. Including stealth craft.
>>694181872
>Doesn't know anything about commodities and international trade
Opinion safely discarded.
>>694185711
I like this empire.
>>694186896
America had a LHC 20 years before Europe did. It's nothing new or special. America had the world's first particle accelerator in the 1940s. Took Europe over 60 years to catch up.
>>694185711
>implying this is impossible in a Germistan
>implying the nation isn't too cucked
>>694186432
At a cost of, the destruction of millions of peoples lives.
But hey, you left them some shitty old 1800s european fire hazard buildings, so, totally worth it.
Well done
>>694185883
The British computer thing (Alan Turing) was an incredible accomplishment, but don't overstate it. It wasn't a truly programmable computer, because it wasn't fully Turing complete without user interference. It was meant to solve a particular problem. Also, despite what was shown in the movie, he had more than enough American help.
The Americans made the first truly programmable computer, the Colossus. However, NONE of this matters because the programs were classified and destroyed.
The computer had to be reinvented (starting off of some of Turing's work) by American's in the private sector, but this took a long time.
USA turns out being the primary developer again.
>>694187352
Might not have a say in the matter.
Could just get stuck with it.
France might leave either way, resulting in the rest. and then it most certainly will wind up with at least a center-right leadership when thats its position.
>>694187468
fuck off, the British brought civilisation to many countries.
ex-colony reporting.
>>694187236
You don't know much about the LHC in Europe. The size makes a huge different. They needed to develop massively parallel computing architectures that were not required for the previous, smaller projects. Comparing the 1940s accelerators to the CERN LHC is like comparing Sputnik to Hubble. No comparison except for vague, immaterial similarities.
>>694180401
>be germany
>as small as one american state
>still number 4
>even tho giving those other leeches in eu free money, what makes it no. 2
>>694187468
Every bad thing the British Empire did (and it DID do) to it's colonies was no worse than they were already doing to themselves. However, by enjoying the effects of the Empire, they ended up better off. Stop whining that they didn't do MORE. They didn't owe the colonies more.
>>694186339
The Dutch literally invented modern banking and the concept of joint stock companies. When it comes to business they contributed hugely. And this is excluding all the Dutch artists and scientists of the early modern era who also made contributions.
Portugal on the other hand didn't do much and their most signifigant accomplishment is HUE HUE HUE.
In history, human development has been increasing exponentially for centuries - right now, more progress is made in a year, then in a century in say the 10th century AD.
So, from this point of view, the USA, most definitely.
All time wise - really hard to say, perhaps Achemenid, Qing and Macedon.
>>694187907
America built the world's first massive LHC in the 90s. Beat Europe by 20 years, like always. Then conservatives in the US government shut it down because they were scared that too much science might make god disappear.
>>694186208
Yeah, about that... Britain invented computers and Internet you dumb fuck
>>694183388
Sweden had no economic motive to keep slavery around.
>>694173574
wtf didn't the dynasties of china and khan's silk road aided to the renaissance of dumb europe???
>>694176111
>Invented electricity
>>694188254
> Implying that 'modern' banking was developed by the Dutch when our modern system was entirely redeveloped in the 90s
> Doesn't understand that the Italians, yes the FUCKING ITALIANS, contributed more to modern banking than the Dutch. From Debit/Credit to all of the core rules of accountancy.
> Counts business contributions as a contribution to society. Sure, keep workin' those spread sheets.
> Names 'Dutch scientists', but unlike everyone on this board, he can't name any damn inventions they produced
Opinion, except for the Portugal bit, safely discarded.
>>694185711
germany does not have nuclear weapons
america forbit it after ww2, but we have alot of american military bases around here that my have nukes
we dont even have a great military ourselfs, we only have like 100000 soldiers (active and reservists together)
>>694187352
as a german i need to appreciate.
lets just say this:
when soldiers come home streets must be closed because left wing demonstrators try to trow meat and stuff at them and take photos of their faces, so they can recognize them for death threats and stuff.
this country is productive but our youth and young people (like until 30) is kill
>>694188618
>>694179254
Well the mongols killed over 50million people and pretty much destroyed Islamic civilization and wrecked China. Not sure if they were all that great.
>>694188483
America invented Internet.
>>694188888
checked. but what is so bad about death mudslime?
>>694188367
Whoa, you went ancient on us there, dude.
>>694188483
Your only claim to inventing computers was Turing, and while he's great, there is a reason that most early computers and all of the personal computer era were American designed and produced. Second, Brits didn't even contribute meaningfully to the Internet, moron. It was developed in it's first version as a US DARPA project and then spread through US universities. England contributed less than Japan on it. Moron.
>>694180401
>>694189071
Britain invented America
>>694188396
An ignorant comparison followed by a stupid straw man. 4chan has many summer today.
>>694188818
wow, you're more cucked than I could have even imagined.
>>694189150
underrated post
>>694182502
>>694184102
>>694184434
>>694184723
>>694185496
>>694185711
>>694187037
>>694187622
>>694189150
>>694189319
You have to wait longer before samefagging. It's too obvious.
Ottoman Empire end of discusion
>>694173574
Mongol Empire.
https://youtu.be/SLF7Fl4SXh8
>>694188818
Germany has had many great periods and been a very productive culture. It's too bad to see it go. I hope the history books are kind when they review this culture after it's no longer in the world.
>>694176470
>train
>slavery
>founding fathers
FUCKING KEK HOLY SHIT
Your a mindless eurofat
Jesus you're retared
>>694176111
Say it right, that's Americanus.
>>694189285
yeah fuck off. watch your children getting fucked by refugees and your country dying because of commies who defend them but protest against your culture, our defense and everything else.
lets better say you are the cuck for defending this shit. go bury yourself and take your fucking lifestyle to tumblr
>>694174365
I have to agree with anon on this one. The British Empire single-handedly shaped the modern world as we know it.
>>694175124
>what is Turkey
Yea, the Byzantine Empire preserved a whole lot of good stuff
>>694189150
^ This is actually true, but if we're going to split hairs, the Scottish Enlightenment was more responsible for American ideas than the English.
>>694189415
The reason most people don't know about the Ottomans and why most history texts gloss over it is that it contributed almost nothing.
>>694173680
This.
>>694188483
No. That's just not true in any sense
Clearly it was the Greeks. No question about it. Some say that it was Aristotle that contributed the most.
>>694189385
You have to lurk longer before posting. It's too cancerous.
>>694189688
Lots of empires shaped the modern world. Empires are a dime a dozen. British did about 1% of it.
>>694189686
I was reading your post trying to understand what you meant haha.
I wasn't saying you were the cuck, I was defending you fam.
>>694189917
No one believes MS Paint jobs. Too obvious.
>>694189108
Over what faggot?? Couldn't use internet without a fucking phone line, which I add was created by Alexander Graham Bell.
Get back to raping kittens or abusing your grandmother fool.
>>694189865
>Byzantine Empire
Actually that's wrong name and a common misconception. It was in fact Roman Empire.
>>694189491
This is exactly my opinion!
>>694189903
Aristotle wasn't very influential on Greeks. His writings were better preserved so he had a very large effect on medieval Europe. Greeks is a good argument for influential civilization, but OP asked about science/technology, and the Greeks are WAY beaten out by the Romans on that.
>>694189150
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>>694173830
As an American,I agree with this.
>this britfags
Fuck you, faggots.
>>694189970
Kek fuck. My fault. Sorry. Have some tits as an excuse.
>>694189150
American invented America.
>>694180964
Are those...?
In the fucking water?
>>694190011
>>694190012
Wait... dear GOD, seriously? Are you using the internet right now over a phone line?
You ARE! AREN'T YOU!
Wow, get a decent connection, idiot.
>>694190272
thanks fam
If Murica had an empire it would be the biggest in the world
......obesity wise that is.
>>694180324
>invade india
>hate indians
>steal all the resources
>make a few bucks with all those trade ports
>strategic location between east asia and europe
>what is good foreign policy
>>694176111
b8 because according to eurotrolls America hasn't accomplished anything at all, and yet they sit and watch and envy everything we do.
>>694186208
>Seriously, if the USA was an empire that would be the answer,
The US is an empire. Do you guys understand how big the US sphere of influence is? Russia and China are sammiched in next to US supported-Asian countries, the crazy Middle-East, a bunch of unstable nations that used to belong to the Soviet Union, a US-funded NATO, a democratic India, and enough aircraft carriers to carpet bomb yella fellas back into their holes.
Who else can even field a threat? A white country similar in culture? South America is their unstable, non-threatening neighbor. Africa is a non-threat.
>>694190512
Too much of a young fag to remember we didn't always have WiFi..
Fucking AmeriFag
>>694190312
Nah, dude. I'm the biggest pro-murica conservative you'll meet, but just read the Federalist papers or any of Adams' writings: they were thoroughly drawing from the British traditions. America basically did British better than the British did and lived in their shadow intellectually for nearly a full generation.
>>694180324
>take niggers to us
>hate niggers
>free niggers
>hate niggers more
>put niggers into ghettos
>free niggers again
>hate niggers more
>'murica
>>694180324
Yeah
Wasnt as if it was oil rich was it
>>694180964
my trip to America
>>694189150
lel thatzz right fam! Carthage was Phoenician 2 xD
>>694190683
everything america has accomplished is because of its enormous and untouched natural resources and constant immigration
otherwise it is a very shitty country
>>694190683
Oddly true
>>694190512
Yeah, and cable lines were used by Alexander Bell, not invented by him. Claiming that Brits contributed to the Internet because they dubiously were earlier in making a basic component of it is like claiming they were the first to use nuclear energy because coal has some nuclei in it. Moron.
>>694181239
lmao, no wonder you're such a failure.
>>694191019
what the fuck are those niggers doing?
It was the fuking first french empire was the best.
>fucked britfags
>won almost every war
>bad ass leader
>great changes for everyone to live better
>most brilliant leader since Caesar and Gustavus II
FUCK YOU, BRITFAGS!
Napoléon>every single britfag ever.
>>694190783
And yet you're shit scared of Mexicans and you're too busy killing yourselves with over the counter assault weapons.
The rest of the world is just standing back lol'ing until you destroy yourselves.
>>694191120
Right. All these Indian and Chinese researchers are going there for the burgers.
Assuming it is ever created, the Fourth Reich.
>>694190433
Yeah, the Ganges is polluted with dead bodies, rubbish and a whole load of other stuff. I don't know what's more disconcerting, the fact that it's considered holy and yet they still do that, or that people shit and bathe in it.
>>694191246
Yeah, about that...
We beat him twice
>>694191289
I'm Canadian you retard.
>>694173574
rome bar none...their civic engineering was way ahead of its time...indoor plumbing and wash facilities...aquaducts for farms...and they practicly wrote the book on miltary tactics that are still analyzed by us today.
>>694191242
lots of KFC, alcohol, and probably a dead body or two.
>>694174365
What he said
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>>694191411
The ganges flows through fucking cities
Why would anyone willingly poison their fucking water supply?
>>694191449
Suck my cock.
Do not believe his lies!
>>694191019
>Snow on the ground
>narrow city street
Probably had enough snow to cancel the trash runs because the trash can't run if it risks stopping up roads for emergency vehicles. Sure it's retarded, but the trash was probably gone a week later.
So when were you in DC?
>>694173574
this.
>>694191457
Sorry, I'll correct that.
Youre Britain's bastard offspring that suckles on the cock of America.
>>694191411
>>694191120
Please compare to Africa, China, and South Asia.
Nah, dude, culture matters. The US has as superior culture that USED those things by pushing individual liberties and a priority on industry and education.
>>694190783
You're using a bad definition of empire. Empire doesn't mean influence, it means annexing and colonizing other areas, by definition.
>>694191289
Keep lol'ing, morons. That's what idiots that don't understand the benefits of a free society have been doing while the US because the first solo, world-wide super power because of a superior set of principles.
>>694191315
Lol, awesome.
>>694174563
Based Macedonian Empire
>>694191649
K. If you would have read what I said, you are as well. Are you this autistic? What part isn't getting through to you?
>>694191557
>why would anyone willingly poison their fucking water supply
why would anyone willingly shit on the street?
>>694191845
Is that why indians are like they are?
Viruses or something from the ground water?
>>694190845
Didn't realize we had a monarchy, house of lords, peerage, etc.
>>694191689
That's literally what the US does you fucking idiot.
>>694188818
You may get those weapons get, anon.
And you don't need shitloads of soldiers.
When you have the automation technology and rapid tooling caoabilities of large scale manufacturing. You guys and Japan still have the highest mfg tech in the world, beyond the rest of us by about 15 years. I have seen some of the biggest industrial robotics installations we have in the US, and theyre all german, designed, engineered, built, tested, produced, programmed with artificial intelligence assistance, to do incredible shit. The mechanical monsters your country has shown itself capable of producing are all the army you'd ever need, and could easily be commanded in enormous numbers by a tiny force. You guys already have that software.
>>694191411
The Ganges also has a higher dissolved oxygen content than any other river. It stays fresher than other waterways and almost cleans itself. Would be toxic otherwise.
>>694173574
The byzantine empire
>>694191606
That is true anywhere, niggers always think they don't need white people but once the white people leave or stop helping, the niggers can't live on their own.
>>694191689
>annexing and colonizing other areas, by definition.
Half of their country, post-Spanish War earnings, Boxer Rebellion, Guantanamo Bay, Hawaii, military bases in dozens of nations including Germany, Japan, and Korea. Installing dictators through arms support.
>>694191557
Um, that's what he was pointing out: >Why the hell to they do that shit?
>>694191985
You don't realize very much, do you? If you would read those sources you would realize that our entire declaration of independence and most of the constitution was taken, in many cases verbatim, from writers like Locke, Hume, and Burke. The culture and government of the US grew from the fertile ground of Scottish Enlightenment thought.
>>694191988
Except, you fucking moron, the US hasn't done that since Hawaii
>>>694191289 (You)
>Keep lol'ing, morons. That's what idiots that don't understand the benefits of a free society have been doing while the US because the first solo, world-wide super power because of a superior set of principles.
> Superior set of principles
> Spend more on defense than education, medicine, and welfare combined.
> Does not agree with universal healthcare, meaning many die as their insurance does not cover procedures
> Creates revolts in middle East against Saddam Hussein on the promise the people will be fully supported, then backs out when revolt begins, killing many thousands of people and creating all the ill will you see today in the middle East.
Should I continue about the subject of your superior principles?
>>694189150
You go to hell you blimey cunt. Come over here and we'll nuke you with freedom.
>>694173680
This
God bless our nation
>>694191663
his body is probably used to the poison. If a foreigner drank that water they'd be dead within a few days.
>>694191557
Ask anyone born before the 1960s, anon. We still allow companies to dump in our water supplies today. We just treat it later.
Nigger, rio just funished building an enormous modern infrastructure for the olympics pumping their sewage right out into the sea, where it poisons all their fish, washes back in to the channels and ends up in their soils and treatment plants.
Humans do not give a fuck.
>>694191979
The next pandemic, a superbug, I guarantee will come from India.
>>694173574
They give us the Catholic church.
>>694192465
>Except, you fucking moron, the US hasn't done that since Hawaii
Germany? Japan? Philippines?
>>694192486
Fucking this
/Thread
Britain wins
Murica fails
Romans come second
>>694192426
Yeah, the US spread through the creation of new state from previously sparsely populated land. However, military bases are neither annexing nor colonizing. The closest argument would be Puerto Rico or Guam, which regularly refuse to vote to leave US influence because they love it. Hardly an annexation. After WW2 the US gave Japan and Germany back their countries, because it's not an Empire. No pattern of annexation and colonization
>>694185496
*message of agreement*
>>694191019
This is one of the nice cities too.
>>694173574
The dindu dynastie
>>694192641
Exactly, you fucking moron, NONE of these countries were annexed or colonized. They were given their independence back. Do you need the definition of annex or colonize provided?
>>694182201
even american curry houses have better curry than brit curry houses to be honest. British curry is an embarrassment to the curry leaf
>>694192465
>US hasn't done that since Hawaii
So? It still fits your definition. Quit making arbitrary rules and use actual facts
>>694173574
Muslim empire
>>694192637
virologists find 2 major pandemic-capable pathogens a week in remote corners south america and africa. Thats a whole field of science we have no hope of keeping up with.
You can scoop up a handful of soil in your back yard, and it'll contain a billion times more viruses and bacterium than we've yet identified and catalogued.
We havent even identified half of whats all in the few human gut cultures that have been studied yet, and every time someone looks, they find some rule-breaking nightmare that makes us rethink what's possible.
There's quite bit more to life than what we see on a regular basis.
>>694193047
You are a fucking dipshit if you think any modern empire follows what Ancient China or Rome did.
>>694193028
That's racist!!!
>>694192486
We do spend vastly more on healthcare and education than defense. You're just looking at our federal government, which SHOULD be spending zero on those other things. You have no clue how the US works.
Speaking of that, death due to not affording procedures is common in countries with "universal" healthcare, meanwhile the hospitals I've worked at commonly have people coming from Europe and Canada because only the US provides many lifesaving treatments too expensive for the socialists to provide.
>>694173680
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>>694191689
>You're using a bad definition of empire.
and yet, reading over what you wrote, you are using a narrow historic scope that only matches bloody invasions. which is retarded and outdated
>>694193154
Nah, dumfuk, look at the conversation: the argument is over what the US *IS*, not what it *WAS*. Over what it DOES, not DID. The present US, for generations, has had no interest in Empire. Your facts and thoughts are a half century out of date.
>>694193298
tl&dr never go outside
>>694181163
the spice must flow
>>694193447
> Sorry, appears your medical insurance won't cover your procedure to remove that dick from your mouth. Here's the bill for $802,000. Have a nice day faggit.
>>694193298
Exactly, so it doesn't help with the Indian Pharmaceutical companies dumping their shit into the polluted rivers literally creating antibiotic-resistant strands of monster diseases.
>>694193348
The only reason you think this is because you don't follow current events, dumfuk.
Russia is in the process of annexing Crimea. Before that they invaded Georgia.
China has recently annexed Hong Kong and is making overtures of doing the same to Taiwan, which doesn't even mention their activities in the South Sea.
>>694192871
>The closest argument would be Puerto Rico or Guam, which regularly refuse to vote to leave US influence because they love it.
Kek. you just proved yourself wrong. do you know how many Gallic tribes stayed loyal to Rome? how many foreigners recognized the British Empire's monarch?
>>694191993
we dont keep those weapons here. military is outdated, left wing parties are cuting them more and more, we dont even shoot with real ammunition in combat simulations we just scream "bang". weapons are forbidden, exept you are a hunter, but for this you dont need those weapons. they are only beeing exported, there are only like 2 gun shops in the next 200 km around my house and you mustnt enter them without permission. oh and even a knife thats blade is longer than 8,5 cm or can be opened with one hand is considered a weapon here.
>>694193728
I'll just keep working on patients that come from countries with 'universal healthcare', because those same expensive procedures and treatments aren't provided.
>>694191574
Narrow streets, bwahaha
>>694177257
Yeah I was thinking one of the caliphates, in general they were very dcientific, unlike Arab world now
>>694192871
>After WW2 the US gave Japan and Germany back their countries
No, they didn't. Last year was the first year Japan could use their army in a non-defensive manner.
>>694193447
Have no clue of how US works
Lived there for 18 years.
Neighbour lost job and was no longer eligible for healthcare insurance. Couldn't afford other insurance. So when his six year old daughter got brain tumor, doctors insisted on $$$ . After much debate, charity finally agreed to pay hospital bills, but by then the tumor has spread and no longer treatable.
> Shitgotreal.jpg
> Majorfeelage.mp4
Buried his daughter a year later, two days before her birthday.
And you claim your system is better than Britain, Europe or Canada?
>>694192871
Read up on Berlin wall in Germany you dumb fag
>>694193591
That narrow, historic scope? That's called the definition of the word.
>>694194175
So? You named groups that stayed loyal to empires that fit the definition of Empire. That doesn't mean the US fits the definition.
>>694184118
Holy fucking shit, Trump is a verb now. Then what?
>>694194341
No, it wasn't. Last year was the first the Japan decided it would to so. The US hasn't had ANY influence over that process since the 50s when they finished the end of their direct influence on Japan's interior politics.
I hate reading Japanese from the pre-war era, because another nice thing the US did before giving Japan their independence back was to help reform their language, and the pre 1940s Japanese was a shitty mess
>>694194239
When it costs approximately $18k to do something basic in the US, you can see how they can afford certain things.
But let's hope you don't tear your gooch during rough annal sex tonight, as your insurance may not cover it!!!
>>694194878
It's been a verb before the Donald
>>694193998
>Russia is in the process of annexing Crimea. Before that they invaded Georgia
Yeah that is some straight US propaganda. You're so fed on bullshit you don't realize it.
>>694194259
Yes, narrow streets. You can see it's wide enough for two cars to drive safely. Let's presume now there's actually snow on the ground that's been plowed against the cars. It's narrower. Now there's trash in the street, and a trash truck drives down this thing at the same time an ambulance does. Not gonna work, is it?
So yes, narrow streets. Narrow, like your mind.
>>694194562
Wow, you really don't know anything about the Berlin wall, do you? It was build by the Russians, because they wanted to keep their annexed section of Germany while America and it's allies just gave the Germans their independence back, you moron.
>>694173680
Foyst pohst boyst pohst
>>694195061
Have you read any of the news from Russia or Ukraine? Everyone involved, with no exceptions, believes that Russia is attempting to and will likely succeed in annexing Crimea. You're a conspiracy level nutjob to believe otherwise.
The roman empire sucked.
>>694182502
So much wrong here but in general I agree, Rome wasn't much for invention. They were excellent architects though, which is a contribution that advanced civilization, even beyond thier collapse.
>>694195071
So you've just proven yourself wrong.
The US did NOT hand over Germany to the German people. They walked away and dealt with the fall out decades later. Instead letting cold war suspicions get the better of them until the Gorbechov era.
>>694194878
Oh, wow, that's a lot of summer in one post. Did you seriously not know that trump is a verb meaning to overcome or supersede?
>>694194418
Oh, certainly better than those systems, where the MRI to diagnose the brain tumor in the girl wouldn't have been available until after the mets had spread. Seriously, lookup the wait times for MRIs in those countries?
Is the US system imperfect? Hell yes!! Is is better than those systems? HELL YES-er!!
>>694183895
Which was when? After getting conquered by the Macedonian alexander?
>>694195297
The Mongols were effective for a and they influenced the world following, but they collapsed about as fast as Alexander's conquest. No very impressive.
>>694195690
Delian League was one, I think he misattributed Alexander to the Greeks though.
>>694195410
Ah, so you're mad that the US gave Germany back to the Germans, instead of going and conquering other groups to make them do things a different way?
Yeah, that's how countries that AREN'T empires act. Whether or not their was fallout, what the US did was fail to take territory when it easily could have, and under your argument, should have. An empire would never surrender the chance to expand.
>>694196100
Alexander thought he was Greek. Argued it strenuously, but there are reasons to think otherwise.
>>694195637
Want to look up facts on how many people have died as a result of denied medical insurance, or through not being able to afford it there champ?
This is the reason more and more charities are having to be set up, and why the popularity of free clinics is on the rise. Yet you're all to focused on misinterpreting the second amendment so you can keep buying guns. Where were all the gun toting Texans in Dallas a few days ago, or whenever there's a school mass shooting?
Oh wait, is rather take my chances than be stuck in the middle of a gun fight between terrorists and untrained rednecks waiving their assault weapons around like peashooters.
America is the retarded bigger cousin of Western civilization. USA = Hodor.
>>694196186
FFS. Read it again idiot. Not difficult to understand.
>>694173680
That is an empire, true enough. Like the Cardashians. Resistance is futile.
To ask those who think America would be a great empire....
You only became independent with the help of the French.
>>694196428
> Thinks the statistics back him up here (NHS is UK is so bad that even feeding nursing home patients is hit or miss and a surprising number die from thirst/starvation)
> Conflates non-existent straw man on guns with healthcare
> Thinks we mind being compared to Hodor
> HE HELD THAT DOOR DAMMIT
> (Worse, he thinks that stupid comparison matters!)
Lol, he mad
>>694196701
Nah, I'll wait for you to understand it.
>>694196946
Which matters because?
>>694179254
The Mongols did bring an end to the Crusades >>694179254
… if only because they scared the shit out of the Arabs and the Normans. In a way, that was a lot like having to choose between Ted Cruz, Donald Trump, and Hillary Rodham.
