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Does being an atheist make you smart?
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Yes.
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No

believe or not believe, you can still be a retard.
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>>693481957
Yeah.
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>>693481957

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhQdYvz0VwQ

See video.
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>>693482176
Like you?
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Belief is not linked to intelligence, so no.
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No but being smart makes you more likely to become an atheist.
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>>693481957
Being smart makes you an atheist.
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>>693481957
Being smart makes you smart.

Religion is belief without proof.
Atheism is refusal to believe without evidence.

Refusal to believe without evidence isn't smart. It's just a methodical approach to a way of life.

To believe without evidence isn't smart. It's also a way of life.

Retarded is to think any of that relates to clarity of mind or prowess in the ability to process information.
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>>693481957
No.
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>>693481957
No.
You're clearly underage. Gtfo.
>Atheism: The organized religion based off the belief that there is an absence of a higher power.
It's a religion that believes in not believing in religion. It's all based off of faith, YEP YOU GUESSED IT, like religion.
Look at it this way, putting faith in nothing is retarded. Putting faith in something you can't prove is retarded. Agnosticism, my dumb, underage friend.
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>>693481957
No, it's just that most smart people are atheist.

People that built that ARK=not very smart
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>>693481957
of course it does. i used to be a special needs kid. then i became an atheist and immediately got an IQ of 273.
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being smart makes you an atheist
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>>693481957
no, and this guy and bill maher make all atheists look like assholes by being such smug, condescending cunts.
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>>693483711
Atheism isn't refusal to believe without evidence. That's Agnosticism. This really isn't hard.
>Religion is having faith in the unknown
>Atheism is having faith in there being no unknown
>Agnosticism is not having faith in anything.
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Fuck no!!

Dawkins says some serious dumb shit sometimes, even Patrick star says something intelligent on occasion
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>>693485134
No, being smart makes you Agnostic. Being a temperamental child makes you an Atheist.
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>>693485297
Example?
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>>693481957
>Does being an atheist make you smart?
Not necessarily. But the contrapositive is often true
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>>693485333
No, not believing in God makes you an atheist

Being agnostic is for faggy 12 year olds looking for a label that doesnt offend.

and debating about any of it on the internet makes you a fucking faggot
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>>693481957
>Does being an atheist make you smart?
Not really, but being religious definitely makes you pretty retarded.
*Tips fedora
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>>693481957
Only if you compare them to creationists (as they make usually the other pole). Otherwise, not.
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>>693484842
>semantics
Getting butt mad over semantics.
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>>693485640
No, having faith that there isn't an unknown higher power makes you an atheist.
>ITT: Atheists that don't know what Atheism is, talking about how smart Atheism makes you.
Abandon thread, boys.
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>>693485640
>Being agnostic is for faggy 12 year olds looking for a label that doesnt offend.
tips*
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Your religion has nothing to do with intelligence and having lack of is the same way. You can be religious and be a jackass and also be an athiest and be a jackass
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>>693485871
>Atheism makes you smart
>Atheism isn't a religion
>Atheism is knowing (faith) that there is no unknown higher power
>>This isn't semantics.
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No, all atheist arent smart, as well as some religious arent dumb

Being smart increases your chance to become atheist because you are more likely to have scientific view of the world and you are capable to think on your own.

But generally, very smart people and very dumb people easily form radical groups which usually include both smart and dumb people.

While people somewhere in the middle or in the upper middle on the scale of intelligence are not so likely to be radical in any habit. In religion this means the people who are agnostist, silent atheists or belong to a religious constitution, but are not active members
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>>693485427
Let me watch some spongebob and get back to you
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>>693481957

Honest opinion

Being smart may often make you an atheist

Being very smart WILL make you agnostic (AKA not assuming that there is/isn't a higher existence (aka god))

Being a knowledgable astronomer will make you either religious or agnostic but never an atheist
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>>693481957
No, some atheist are smart, a lot are stupid dipshits
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>>693486011
Not knowing but believing (difference)
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>>693485235
Wow, that makes atheism even more retarded.
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>>693485999
Trips of truth
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>>693486297
just ignore the fedora
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>>693486011
>being this dense
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>>693481957
No, but being religious means you're dumb.
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No, being smart makes you atheist.
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>>693481957
No, but being smart makes it more likely you'll become an athiest (or agnostic, I don't care - this whole fucking thing is really stupid)
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>>693485640
Lol
Agnosticism is based completely off logic. Idgaf if I offend some faggot. You need to go back to 4th grade, son.
>Hurr durr you wonder why Atheism's highest growth rate is in ages 13-18.
Just for all you retards' information, Agnosticism is knowing that nothing can be proven outside your perception. For all you know, everything you're experiencing is in your head. Now, some clarification for you tards. THAT DOESN'T MEAN I, OR ANY OTHER AGNOSTIC, THINKS THAT THIS IS ALL IN OUR HEADS. It means that we're not idiots that believe everything just because someone tells us it's true.
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>>693486379
You children need to go back to school.
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>>693482328
u no it
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>>693486405
Is that why Issac Newton was Christian?
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>>693486258
Not knowing but believing is faith you fucking imbecile. (No difference)
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>>693481957
No, being smart makes you an Atheist.
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>>693486297
Atheism is retarded.
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>>693482714
Found the atheist
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>>693486207
Pretty accurate. I'd just abandon thread, my man. These kids are horribly retarded.
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>>693486374
>fedora calling someone a fedora
>oh, 4chan
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>>693482714
I agree
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>>693481957
If you have to ask you are clearly not an atheist.
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>>693481957
No. But there are very smart atheists.
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>>693486177
I meant some stupid things Richard Dawkins said. Everything he said seemed logical and well-thought for me.
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>>693481957
No, but being smart makes u an Atheist !
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most of the worlds best scientists were religious
religion spurned them to try to understand the world and gods intentions.

einstein
Nicholas Copernicus
Galileo Galilei
Johannes Kepler
Blaise Pascal

im an athiest, im just pointing out that some of the greatest discoverys by man were by religious men.
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No, being smart makes you an atheist.
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no, but being smart makes you an atheist
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>>693486571
His beliefs were anything but Christian. He considered the worship of Jesus to be idolatry, for one. Your example demonstrates that among the most intelligent who are inclined towards theology, organized religions are considered an absolute joke.
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>>693485235
Atheism is just the lack of belief in a god.

Huxley agnosticism is the claim that it's unknowable whether there is a God.

Gnostic=knowing

Agnostic=unknowing

Gnostic theist: I knkw there is a God, so i believe it

Agnostic theist: I dont know if there is a God, but i believe it

Gnostic atheist: I know there is no God so i don't believe it

Agnostic atheist: I dont know if there is a God and I don't believe it
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>>693487221
>im an athiest

That's funny, because you sound like one of those Christian youth group pastors who try to trick gullible kids into thinking Jesus is cool.
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higher chance of being smart.
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>>693487560
oh shit ive been found out
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>>693487221
Einstein was not religious.

When he talks about God he says it's the beauty of the universe. Not an actual deity
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>>693487560
jesus is cool, he lifts like /fit/ and hates gays like /b/
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>>693487221
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm1SbFRjH64

>>693487560
>Christian youth group pastors

That's funny because I was one of those for a very long time, not that other guy though.
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>>693484842
atheism and agnosticism are answers to two different questions.

being a theist or atheist is the answer to the question "do you believe a higher power exists?"

gnosticism and agnosticism are answers to the question "do you know a higher power exists?"

You can be both an atheist and an agnostic (you don't believe in god, but you don't know for sure). You can also be a theist and an agnostic (you believe in god, but don't know for sure he exists).

You can also be a gnostic atheist (someone who claims to know for sure that god does not exist). This is very rare among self-described atheists.

And of course you can being a gnostic theist (someone who believes in god and claims to know they exist). This is much more common.
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Much like religion, there is division between non-believers into different sects that have a way of principle or a route of history behind them that contribute to their definitions, and to their perception by society.

People can be indoctrinated with a type of atheism and turn out to be really dumb people who hold on to atheism. There is some correlation be irreligiosity and intelligence, however and i think the knowledge of a well established education can trickle down to those who follow the message yet do not really understand it. A poorly justified true belief.
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>>693481957
Hitler.
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>>693487884
Not the guy you were talking to, but I bet you like Penn Jillette
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>>693488278
/thread
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>>693488343
haven't really seen his stuff. heard that bullshit was a good show tho.
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>>693488462
Hitler was an Atheist. Was he smart?
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>>693481957
Nah, me and most of my friends are of average intelligence.
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>>693487550
>Implying that having faith in nothing is any different than having faith in something.
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>>693488632
>Hitler was an Atheist
he so wasn't
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>>693481957
No, but being religious makes you stupid.
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>>693481957
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>>693488632
Yes.
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>>693487757
underage b&
>Implying you're only religious if you believe in God.
Don't worry anon, 14 was hard for all of us.
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>>693488632
dont be autistic.
hitler was not athiest.
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>>693486797
>oh, 4chan
just end it mate
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>>693488528
I mentioned that because penn talks about what you talked about in some radio show. I don't think it was in his bigger works like Bullshit. It was probably just an interview where i remember him talking about it.
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>>693481957
Nope. babbys are atheists and they don't know shit
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>>693481957
It's the other way around
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>>693488977
kek
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>>693488897
But he did nothing wrong tho.
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>>693487447
''Newton saw God as the masterful creator whose existence could not be denied in the face of the grandeur of all creation"
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>>693481957
No. You can be an atheist and an idiot. Same goes with a Christian. It doesn't matter what religion you believe in becaus anyone can be an idiot like you.
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>>693488678
That was actually a pretty satisfying answer.
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>>693489045
are you saying that hitler... dindu nuffin?

hitler was black confirmed
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>>693487884
Taking the terms at their literal meaning, yes. That is accurate.
These 14 year old kids aren't taking the terms at their literal meaning.
Atheism is having faith that there is no higher power.
Agnosticism is not having faith in anything, and not believing in anything that you can't prove to yourself.
>Inb4 you retards think faith and belief are the same thing.
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>>693488684

The bait in this thread is real
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>>693481957
Yes. You are using your brain to question society.
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>>693481957
It's the other way around. Being smart makes you an atheist.
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>>693488632
Hitler actually was smart, but not Atheist. Man, you kids are stupid as fuck. The American school system is failing.
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>>693488764
if being atheist does not make you intelligent, how does being religious make you unintelligent?
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>>693489168
if he was black he'd be shot ded by now
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>>693489278
You somehow brought this thread to a new level of stupidity. Congratulations.
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>>693489064
Deism is far, far different than any of your goofball organized religions. He was a real freethinker for his time, and would have been prosecuted for heresy by people like you had his actual beliefs ever become public knowledge.
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>>693489045
He didn't finish the job.
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>>693489374
he was shot ded, killed by another black guy in gang violence.
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>>693489320
^this
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>>693489337
Hitler had a fetish for pagan traditions, but in that day and age you had to give lip service to Christfags or you really wouldn't have gotten in power.
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DAILY REMINDER THAT SCIENCE IS A RELIGION.
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>>693488764
Astounding. Sorry for the mistake. Just verified this. I only had his Ideology in mind and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirchenkampf
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>>693481957
No. Subscribing to any pre-made belief system or philosophy is always a mark of stupidity.

Now if you reach your own individual conclusions through critical thought then I would say that you are intelligent. Maybe I will disagree with you but I tend to judge intelligence on the basis of critical thought.

Example: an atheist democrat liberal who has adopted these labels and beliefs off hand is an idiot. An atheist democrat liberal who adopts those labels because of introspection and critical thought is a douchebag, but not stupid.
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>>693489397

More b8. You have to get up earlier
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>>693489476
how are we just finding this out?
my world is collapsing
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>>693489278
Having faith is knowing without proof. Having faith in nothing is knowing without proof that there's nothing. Having faith in something is knowing without proof that there's something. You kids are fucking idiots.
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>>693489526
DAILY REMINDER THAT CAPSLOCK MAKES YOU COOL SLICK
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>>693489511
I'm very confused why you replied to my post with that.
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>>693489618
There could actually be a scientific explanation for the power of faith, but we're still in a relatively primitive warlike state of society to discover that yet.
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>>693489572
wait... does this mean we should greive his death?
since black lives matter and all?
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>>693489526
Science isn't a religion, you stupid fuck. Atheism is, science is not. Science is a tool for finding answers for things unknown.
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>>693489694
just another anon butting in
Hitler was a Christian--in public
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>>693489632
>NO COUNTERARGUMENT TO SAY MUST INSULT HIM BECAUSE HAT WILL SHOW HIM HOW SMART I AM
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>>693489316
>society isn't encouraging atheism
>the religions ones aren't the ones who are thinking for themselves

The media wants a nation of atheists without faith you are easier to control.

Literally if you don't believe in something you'll fall for anything.
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>>693488684

>there's an elephant behind you
nope

>so you must believe in there not being an elephant behind you
i guess

>well your belief in there not being an elephant is the same as mine in believing there is an elephant.

i guess, i just don't understand where u got the idea of there being an elephant behind me in the first place

>i was told at a young age there is always an elephant behind you. there's even a book that says it's true.

well, you're retarded.
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>>693489786
I want an investigation that will get us to the bottom of this and I want it now
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>>693489618

You believe in every single god anyone has ever came up with, as well as unicorns, ghosts etc. I've just made up a god called sjsjdjxidiskskanzbdjsk and you now believe in his existence as equally as the others now.
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>>693489759
Could be, yes. However, that has nothing to do with my post or the debate.
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>>693489832
>atheists are easy to control

k
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>>693489811
Again, not sure why you replied to me.
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>>693489832
So if I believe that cheese pizza is OK, I'm better than an atheist?
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Half the posts in this thread were lifted from cornball church signs
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>>693489893
should we grieve the death of all the jews?
they weren't black but now they're grey so im kinda iffy
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>>693489839
Again,
>implying belief is the same thing as faith
Back2skool child.
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>>693489792
>Atheism is

atheism is not a religion. it is the absence of religion.

Saying atheism is a religion is like saying "i have a hobby of not collecting stamps"
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>>693490121
its summer though...
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>>693489943
Actually it does, since the conventional wisdom is that faith is a validation of God.

There could be a scientific process in the human brain where we use faith to achieve things without logic or reason.
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>>693489908
I don't believe, or have faith in, any god or absence of any god. I understand threads can be hard to follow for people like you, but try to keep up.
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>>693482714
True
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>>693484293
This.

Fucking this.

To be frank, Third Wave Feminism is pretty much a religion now, with cis-male privilege being the new original sin.
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>>693490004
Because you stated (correctly) that Hitler was not a Christian, and I explained why some might think he was.
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Religion and irreligion doesn't make you that smart, why should it matter whether being an atheist proves that you're smart, i mean there are other religious people out there that can be smart in the world, I mean look at Isaac Newton, he was an Anglican, Faraday was a Christian who contributed to electromagnetism.

This is from an agnostic.
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>>693481957
No , most smart people are Atheists
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>>693490121
Explain the difference, oh wise man.

#randombutdankcomment
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>>693481957
I'm an atheist and I know I'm not smart.
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>>693490268
No, it doesn't. Nothing you said had anything to do with "Implying that having faith in nothing is any different than having faith in something."
Please, try to keep up. You're a giant burden.
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>>693490122
Why do atheists have to get so fucking defensive? Do you feel like your intelligence was insulted of something?
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>>693490110
It just makes me want to start the next Holocaust. Against everybody. Maybe I should e-mail Trump and see if he can make it a campaign promise.
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>>693490205
Unfortunately.
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>>693490303

Stop using as hominem to try and win your argument, it makes you seem foolish
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>>693490205
>Oh boy it's summer.
>Can't wait to call people summer fags instead of just fags
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Most of you fuckers don't know how to dictionary.
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>>693490490
Different anon. Food for thought.

And yes, Christians use faith as a tool in believing in God.
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>>693490496
Christianity is an insult to one's intelligence.
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>>693490122
Again, ITT: Atheists not understanding Atheism talking about how smart Atheism makes you.
Religion is the organized faith in something.
Atheism is the organized faith in nothing.
>For the third time, implying having faith in something is different than having faith in nothing.
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>>693490747
>Atheism is the organized faith in nothing.

Actually atheism is just thinking reasonably.

Religion is not reasonable.
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>>693490747

Gr8 b8 m8
Fucking hate summer
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Science is not a religion you cucks. Science is the study of truth, through observation and logic. Because the only real truth is that you can observe. Atheists that are atheists because they accept scientific reasoning are smart because in general people who study science are smarter.
If you're religious then you probably disagree with evolution, thus you're denying the truth. Stupid people deny blatant truth ergo religious people are stupid.
To be willing to believe that everything was designed and created, every minor complexity and not that it's the result of a vast system under a set of well defined laws is one of the least intelligent things imaginable. If you believe in a specific religion you're 100x worse because of the contradictory and nonsensicle bullshit in them.
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>>693490122
Depending on how broadly you're using the term "athiesm", it could imply a positive belief that a deity certainly does not exist without evidence for this claim. However, it is certainly possible to be agnostic and still conclude that:

1. If something like a deity does exist, it is overwhelmingly likely to be far beyond our comprehension, far more alien than anything we have ever conceived, and apparently uninterested in our existence or suffering.

2. All organized religions are certainly incorrect, hopelessly flawed in their justification for any sort of knowledge, and hindering the advancement human civilization.
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>>693481957
I don't, I on a personality scale, have massive dark triad traits. and on the other side am probably a sociopath/psychopath. I have little remorse, and I distance myself from others. Think Natsuno Yuuki from Shiki, as People treat him different because people don't get him, and he is hateful because of it. I live in the south, and have a Genius Level IQ. People think i am creepy because i know so much and i am so above them in intelligence. IQ is over 150. I talk above people unintentionally and my friend who does get me, says People think I am retarded, when They are the ones who aren't intelligent enough to comprehend my musings. I finally just observed the dumbasses in Dumbfuckistan, and Blended in, beyond my more intelligent friends. One of my friends is like me.
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I'm atheist, because i'm too stupid to think about religion and God[s]
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>>693481957
Agnostic is the safe bet until you realize God is real
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>>693490971
not that anon, but you are clearly demonstrating the difference between an agnostic atheist and a nihilist.
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>>693490728
Science is an insult to one's common sense. Do you really believe the universe was created just by chance? Literally everything according to science happened by chance.
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>>693490457
You guys are literally retarded.
Faith: KNOWING to yourself without proof.
Belief: THINKING to yourself without proof.
If I believe that there is a God, my beliefs with be changed with proof that there is no God. If I have faith that there is a God, no amount of proof will change that, because it is already proven to me.
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>>693488784
no but if you believe that you're more arrogant than what you're painting the atheist to be.
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>>693481957
Yes, by definition.
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>>693490747
>implying Atheism is organized faith
>implying indifference to a certain philosophy is a philosophy
>implying that not having a favorite sports team means your favorite sports team is tangible
>implying that no matter what anyone says, You're always right.
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>>693491093
yeah but they keep records on you and they could be used against you later
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>>693490747
>Atheism is the organized faith in nothing.

I feel like you're using the word "faith" differently than I understand it.

Faith (to me) is believing in something without proof, or despite proof to the contrary.

Atheism is the opposite of that. Atheists tend to require proof and evidence prior to belief.

So I would argue that atheism isn't "faith in nothing", but rather the "lack of faith in something" (which are two different things). Eh, i guess it's semantics but w/e.
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>>693491163
>everything happened by chance

no it didn't faggot

there were exact reasons why things happened, and you can follow the procedure
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>>693482176
dis
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>>693490656
>Implying ad hominem had anything to do with my argument.
>Ignoring my argument to use ad hominem as your argument.
You trumped this guy.
>>693489278
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>>693490873
>16 year old "hurr durr it's summer"
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>>693491467
>bait=real

so what? make them rage because they really think like christfags
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>>693491164

>You guys are literally retarded.
>Belief: THINKING to yourself without proof.

where does this stellar definition of the world belief come from?

>actual definition of belief
>An acceptance that a statement is true or that something exists.

Thinking to yourself without proof is still just thinking you retarded faggot.
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>>693490674
Just like Atheists use faith as a tool for believing in nothing.
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>>693483711
Agonistic and atheist are the same thing don't try to make it two different things
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>>693491628
Now we have this retard.
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>>693491163
Most stupid thing I've ever read KYS, science is 'common sense', science is the explain action of the truth behind phenomena. It's obviously not by chance in that there is causation behind it, but that can also be explained only we don't know the science behind it. You speak of science as if it's a well defined entity. Science is fluid and is an acceptance of the best fit reasoning and rejection of all else until it is replaced. It constantly adapts moving closer to the reality of the situation at hand.
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>>693491769
AND NOW WE HAVE THIS RETARD. Thread is dead. The few intelligent people have long left. Adios bitchacos.
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>>693491813
Don't fall for the b8 m8
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>>693491683
>still butthurt about free thought

sorry faggot-- we follow reason, we don't "believe in nothing"
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Obviously. Just look at how sophisticated Dawkins is in his ways of countering the primitive ideology that is Christianity without them blathering like idiots. It's only for the most heightened of intellectuals.
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>>693491096
I'm not sure I would even consider an agnosticism that disagrees with those two claims to be rational (with the possible exception of "hindering the advancement [of] human civilization", which I suppose could be argued by reasonable people. An agnosticism that believes the existence of the Christian deity is a 50-50 chance is simply setting up a false equivalence between religion and science and trying to let religious beliefs in through the back gate.
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>>693491810
Did the part where I tell you what the word belief actually means upset you?
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>>693491163
>Science is an insult to one's common sense.
this must be a troll
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>>693491952
N-names?
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>>693491943
being atheist doesnt make you intelligent literal dumbfuck kys
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>>693481957
you mean "does religion make you stupid"
yes. yes it does.
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>>693481957
No.

As an atheist, I've been around enough of them to know many grab onto various tenets and proponents like a religion.

While being smart has a higher likelihood of leading to atheism; correlation is not causation and it sure as fuck does not work in reverse.
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>>693491952
Not sure if OP, Poes law I guess. But in all seriousness there are people who think like this
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>>693491984
Scientific probability is all right, but you would fooling yourself by believing there were a 50-50 chance of a God or not. Right now it's 0% given the evidence.
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>>693491943
they are the same thing u retarded faggot.
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>>693492245
>being smart has a higher likelihood of leading to atheism

There we go. (y)
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>>693491943
Falling for my bait hehe "nothing personal kid"
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>>693492245
Agreed, also, religiously unaffiliated.
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If this thread doesn't 404 soon I'm going to switch sides.
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>>693492162
The point is that atheists are more likely to be intelligent, bit that they somehow become more intelligent once they're atheists. You're most likely retarded and have never read a science book in your life, obviously don't have a STEM degree.
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It does. You will never see a retarded ahtieat because they see the truth. 95% of all athiest are smarter than the average person according to research.
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>>693492601
well then i'll just switch to whatever side you were on before to make it even.
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>>693492604
You could be an atheist who votes for Trump, though.
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>>693481957
No, but being theist makes you dumb.
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>>693491813
So youre telling me that believing that we all evolved from a single cell is completely reasonable? That literally doesnt make sense at all. Also, youre saying that what fits sciences best interests is what will be reported as facts and truths. If it constantly has to change then it really isnt a valid form of reasoning.
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>>693491952
>>693492120
Seriously, names anyone?
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>>693492689
You couldn't handle it. I can pretend to be a Christian, but you'd go buttmad pretending to be an atheist.
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>>693491165
Roger that.
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>>693492366
Yes, that's essentially what I'm saying, except I would say there is an essentially 0% chance that any human conception of deity exists, because there really is no evidence. The rational position is clearly agnosticism PROVIDED it accepts the two claims in >>693490971

An agnostic position that would claim it's a toss-up between science and religion is clearly irrational.
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>>693485999
The trips have spoken
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>>693492601
How would being gay help?
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>>693491165
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>>693492604
Wow great argument fagtron you sure convinced me with those hot opinions
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>>693492789
>but you'd go buttmad pretending to be an atheist.

that's my secret. I'm always pretending.
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>>693492712
More likely, you've obviously never studied statistics either. There are outliers in most data sets.
Science or gtfo basically
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>>693492864
lots of sexy missionary boys to corrupt
mm
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>>693492502
Nice trips dudeee
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>>693481957
No, being smart makes you an atheist.
>/thread
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>>693492904
ITT degree-less shitfags who haven't studied science
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>>693493253
I took biology you shitfag
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>>693493253
enjoy your student loan debt fuckwad
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>>693493014
Yeah but think about it--what if it's all true?

Wouldn't that be the point of a test for Mankind?

To put the reality of God at a less than 1% possibility? The true believers would prevail.
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>>693481957
There are dumb atheists, and smart atheists. It kind of evens out 50:50 I'd say.
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>>693481957
Try it, and let us know if you get any smarts.
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>>693493463
Except that having the sense to not believe in a mythology makes you by default smarter than the rest of the population.
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>>693492775
That's one theory, many think there were multiple origins of single cellular life all forming in similar circumstances.
Just because your puny brain can't wrap it's head around the vast expanses of time that could lead to such changes doesn't mean everyone else is so fucking stupid. Evolution is a scientific fact, if you disagree you don't understand it or are in denial
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>>693491046
when is your 17th birthday?
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>>693481957
test
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>>693481957
no.
pic related, RIchard Dawkins is a retard when it comes to anything outside of biology
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>>693492775
>If it constantly has to change then it really isnt a valid form of reasoning.

Absolutely false, and demonstrating complete ignorance of scientific methodology
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>>693493346
Took biology, is religious. Kek probably a shit college in Texas somewhere
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>>693493826
I thank you endlessly for this
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No, not necessarily. But being religious automatically makes you a dumbass.

>inb4 'hurr atheism is a religious'
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>>693481957
You don't need to be smart to be an atheist but if you're an atheist you're probably smart
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>>693484842
Saying Atheism is a religion is like saying Off is a channel on your TV.
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>>693481957
No, but it can't make you stupid either.

Religion can. That's why it's worse.
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>>693493624
>That's one theory
>many think

Yeah sounds like science really proves things through factual data. If its all theories and based on what what many different people think then how can it be a valid form of reasoning? Constantly having to change the data to prove something is stupid. Believing in a creator God or many gods wouldnt be that much more crazy then that.
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No, but if youre smart, youre probably athiest
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>>693486457
You said it anon, you said it.
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>>693493950
It should be common knowledge, but this thread really demonstrates how poorly-educated and anti-intellectual our society really is on average despite its wealth.
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>>693493658
in a couple years.
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>>693489202
I feel that this may be bait but someone here still believe this for real so I'll take it

You keep calling it faith just because it makes these 14 y/o atheists seem just like regular theists but in the other end of the scale, but this isn't the true

If you want to believe in a higher power without evidence you can, thats called faith, but if you don't believe in a higher power because of the lack of evidence for it, why would that be faith?

The actual difference lays in what we need to accept things as true or facts ourselves, most atheists need some solid foundation in order to accept certain knowledge as fact, and theist just need the knowledge to agree with them to be accepted as facts
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>>693481957
No, but atheism is linked to being autistic
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>>693492392
You are so lost it hurts. End your life.
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>>693487757
Einstein was a Jew.
>stein
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If you believe, you're a retard.

If you don't, you CAN be a retard, but it's not guaranteed.
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>>693493838
>implying
>implying
>implying
>implying
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>>693494599
>taking the bait this hard
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>>693491444
Trips of Truth.
Thread is now over.
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>>693481957
It makes you smart just as being religious makes you moral.
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>>693494818
>>693494769
>>693494754
>>693494473
>>693494191
Did you guys just find out how to use Greentext?
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>>693494357
This bait.....
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>>693494932
this this this this this this
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>>693481957
No.
Just look at feminists.
And if you're a feminist
Just look in the mirror
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>>693487221
>im an athiest, im just pointing out that some of the greatest discoverys by man were by religious men.

This is true, but with the exception of Einstein (who was a deist at most, and atheist more likely), they lived in a world where it was illegal to profess not being religious.

Galileo spent the last 20 years of his life under house arrest for daring to say the Earth went around the sun. This was the nature of being free to admit to being atheist, or even discussing it.

In other words, religion wins nothing with this claim. In a scientific study, if the placebo side is threatened with beatings and jail and death...
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>>693494947
Did you just find out you can pretend to be an acoustic on hear?
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>>693481957
DONT ASK ME! IM A FUCKIN MONKEY! WHOO WHOO WHOO WAAH WAAH
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>>693494947
I assumed it would have been covered in the Stormfront social media brigade orientation course, but I guess not.
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>>693494705
They are the same thing. It's like saying tomatoes are different than tomatoes because you pronounce it differently.

>End your life
Finish highschool
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>>693481957
fuck no, but being smart makes you atheistic
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>>693495020
i honestly agree with him
try to tell me that 90% of muslim-tards are not stupid
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>>693481957
No more than being a priest makes you honorable.
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>>693484842
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>>693481957

>implying a belief system has an impact on intelligence

short answer:
no.

long answer:
atheism is literally the same as theism.

someone told you, there is no god, you have no way to prove it one way or the other, and you blindly and fervently defend that point of view without any respect for anyone who has a differing belief.
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>>693495287
>muslim-tards
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>>693494473
Those are small deviations over one fact, that life evolved and adapted over time keeping organisms best adapted to their environment and allowing increases in complexity.
Whereas in religion you slaughter each other over whether the universe hatched from an egg or god said 'let there be light' or whether Jesus was the last man who spoke to cloud men or some other cavemongerer 100 years later.
All from the organisation that covers up peadophillia and promoted bigotry.
You done good kid
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>>693481957
No, being smart makes you smart.
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>>693494769
Fucking hell you actually did, fuck outta here with your non Ivy League shit and backwards inbreeding educational programme.
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>>693495020
Tell me; What harm can absence of religion do?
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>>693494818
The sad part is it's probably not even bait. People out there are honestly this stupid as hard as it is to believe.
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>>693495586
Most religions have stayed the same since they first started whereas scientific facts change all the time. You cant generalize the whole religion based on the incidences that have happened. Look at the technological advancements that resulted from science which has resulted in more deaths (and environmental destruction) then religion has caused.

Have fun believing we came from some big banging explosion.
Youre done.
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sdghjgkmhh
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>>693481957
Wanka
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>>693496055
As an atheist, some people find solace in religion. If there was a world without atheism, your question makes no sense. If you want a world without religion, you're trying to put the genie back in the bottle.

Just like conspiracy theorists, there's always going to be people who believe they have a secret link/knowledge to truth because the universe is an uncaring chaotic place where shit sometimes just happens.
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it makes you alone
lonely people has to be strong and smart to survive and be happy
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>>693496661
If it didn't change it wouldn't be science, as technology progresses our ability to measure and understand improved and so we must change science to fit the observations, that's the important part. But my words are wasted on you, you're uneducated and your arguments are moot
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>>693496055

>What harm can absence of religion do?

USSR had a ban on religion, look at what happened there.

if that's not enough, prior to the mass conversions to judaic religions, murder and rape outside of your own community was perfectly acceptable.

case in point:
> romans
> greeks
> vikings
> celts
> goths
> barbarians
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>>693496661
> Look at the technological advancements that resulted from science which has resulted in more deaths.

Why the fuck are you on the internet then? Hypocrite.
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>>693496661
>Most religions have stayed the same since they first started whereas scientific facts change all the time.

Yes, and it follows that religious fundamentalists are hard-headed crazies who avoid learning anything new and whose beliefs will never change in response to an expanding set of observations about nature and reality.
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>>693496661
Implying staying the same gives it any credit whatsoever.
Implying acquiring more knowledge as a civilisation is the problem
Kill yourself, for the benefit of the rest of us
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>>693497067
>HURRR DURRRR MY WORDS ARE WASTED ON YOU YOUR ARGUMENT IS MOOT I WIN THE ARGUMENT

literally what anyone says when they know theyve lost the argument
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>>693490507
some nice conversations going on in this thread
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>>693490496
Since when did they say that they are an atheist? Did you just randomly call someone an atheist just because they are for saying that?
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>>693497222
posted before i finished my thought.

if that was acceptable with those religions, one can only imagine that it was pretty much morally no-holds-barred prior to religion...

kinda how like monkeys or the blacks act
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>>693497560
I say it because I know it's true, you can't teach a blind person to see. I've lost no argument you haven't put up a valid counter argument that anyone has respected. You're clearly losing here, give up.
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Religion exists because many people cannot move beyond what they were taught as a child
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Idk its too broad of a question.
Yes, I mean to some degree it shows that you are smart enough to realize that religion is bullshit and you aren't a part of the hive mind.
However, many "active atheists" are in a hivemind of their own. Many think just because they are smart enough to realize religion is bullshit, that automatically makes them the worlds foremost authority on everything else. They are not humble and that leads to their downfall.
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>>693497222
>USSR had a ban on religion, look at what happened there.

I suggest you read up on the actual USSR. Even Stalin allowed Russian Orthodox. Hell, the Jews even had their own state made (way out by China) in the USSR.

Even China, Cuba, and Vietnam don't ban religions.

The only case where it may be banned is N. Korea. But there, the state is the religion (not unlike Nazism).
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being smart makes you an atheist
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https://youtu.be/nQ-Y5NWV9kc?t=1063
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>>693483711
/thread
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>>693481957
>>693481957

Being an atheist only proves that you're a dull-witted edgy little fuck.

>I have never met a truly open-minded, intelligent person who chose to be an atheist.
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>>693481957
congrats OP you baited a bunch of neckbeards into screaming at each other
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>>693498326

Not exactly hard on /b/ is it ?
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>>693498319
>>I have never met a truly open-minded, intelligent person who chose to be an atheist.

That's a shame, but it may be the company you keep. I don't know you and you don't provide enough information. I can only guess based on commonality.
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>>693498319
Isn't it just fantastic that you get to decide what is and isn't open-minded
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>>693481957

What a dumb question.
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>>693481957
Is he the most euphoric being on the planet /b/?
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>>693481957
not as a jew ,they're on the top of most of science field while the world is dominated by muslim's oil
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>>693500573
im going to say a teen high on ecstasy is the most euphoric being on the planet.
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>>693481957

No, but being religious makes you stupid.
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