Name a more blood thirsty, gun obsessed dick head of a country than America.
Protip. you can't
inb4 OP is a faggot. Because I am
Which country
>>691771766
Gun rights are here to stay, get used to it faggot. Guns are forever in America, faggots have only been a thing for the past 30 or so years.
>>691772702
Not true faggots have been around for a long time but only recently has everyone become such a pathetic bunch of pussies
>>691771766
Cambodia.
>>691772829
I hadn't implied faggots didn't exist moreso than that they weren't popular
Americans, the most indoctrinated egotistical brainwashed fucks on the planet. Have fun continuing too drop from number 1 and have fun continuing too thin each other out with your precious guns. Its rather hilarious too watch. Fuck living over in that shithole.
>>691771766
Faggot
>>691771766
What Americans don't understand is:
It isn't "tyrannical" governments oppressing people it's people oppressing people!
To preserve democracy you need a democratic tradition in a country.
The Weimar Republic failed because large parts of the population were anti-democratic and supported national socialism and other right wing parties that wanted back to an authoritarian system. The National Socialists abandoned the tight gun control of the Weimar Republic, which was required by the Versailles Treaty, for eveyone except jews and still there was no uprising. At the end of the war even children were equipped with heavy weapons. Still there was no uprising.
>>691773160
>too
>too
>too
SOMEONE HOLD ME BACK. HOLD ME BACK. THIS BAIT IS CALLING ME
>>691773851
Horsey is a faggot.
>>691773851
You sound like a faggot
>>691773160
/thread
Fuken kek
>>691774154
>You sound like a faggot
It take that answer as a sign that you got nothing to refute my point an actually agree with it.
>>691771766
look at the history books ffs.
everytime a people has been disarmed a tyranical government and most often genocide of minorities followed.
and i guarantee you that every time the people in the process of being disarmed thought "nah, our government won't do that"
>>691771766
switzerland
>>691774344
>everytime a people has been disarmed a tyranical government and most often genocide of minorities followed.
Maybe you can point out to us those some of those plentiful cases. Let's say at least four. Shouldn't be too difficult.
And please also set into context how an armed minority stops and armed majority.
>>691771766
several countries in africa.
took 3 seconds of thinking
>>691774559
nazi germany, soviet union under stalin, myanmar, china under mao. enough for you?
>>691771766
Aww are you sad that your butt buddies got shot?
>>691774495
>switzerland
Switzerland is just a little crook paradise and save haven for economic criminals. It's basically the Columbia of Europe.
>>691774658
>forgetting N.korea
just to add for near recent
There isn't a gun problem though...
>>691774559
for the second question, does the american revolution count?
and it's not about armed minority vs armed majority. thats the wrong thinking.
it's about an armed majority vs. the armed minority aka government.
>>691774658
>nazi germany, soviet union under stalin, myanmar, china under mao. enough for you?
No. You didn't explain how and when people were disarmed their. You just named some dictatorships.
I'd especially like to know who was disarmed in the Soviet Union and China and what genocide followed there.
>>691771766
Got an erection with all those guns!
Fap Fap Fap
>>691774812
OP's status:
[ ] not rekt
[X] rekt
>>691771766
I don't get why anybody gives a shit if they ban assault weapons. Hear me out though I'm not some fucking pacifist panty waist.
People act like magazine fed rifle is the only proper self defense weapon.
"Oh now, they've banned magazine fed rifles. Now I only have shotguns, handguns, revolvers, bolt action rifles, lever action rifles, and fix mag stripper clip loaded rifles. How will I ever defend myself now?"
pretty fucking well from the looks of it, unless you're a fucking pussy.
>>691774749
thanks. i just took the first 4 that came to mind.
>>691771766
The sad thing is that these idiots don't realize that if the government wanted to stop guns they could it has nothing to do with there rights or anything else on a slip of paper that is worth as much as the paper i wipe my ass with.
It comes down to the fact that the NRA and the Gun company's pay them not to money talks in the US no mater what anything that was written years ago says. I can promise you that if some one went in and gunned down most of congress gun laws would be a lot tougher but its just the middle class dieing so they don't give a shit
>>691771766
Philippines.
>>691774078
Nigga it aint worth it, his name is Ahmed. He's taken enough abuse.
>>691772702
Not really, Hawaii just passed law to put gun owners on a federal list...goodbye gun rights
>>691774948
tzarist russia was fucking armed to the teeth. soviets took those guns, gulags followed.
china was not a genocide, but mass murder of political opposition (as oposed to murder on a certain heritage)
>>691774891
>it's about an armed majority vs. the armed minority aka government
No it isn't, you mouth breather. The government can have and often in history had more followers than opponents.
So...why does everyone say America and not the United States? To me, America is pretty much the western hemisphere.
>>691774559
Pol pot, Khmer Rouge, Hitler and the Jews and gypsies, Mao, North Korea.
As for underfunded and ill equipped fighting off the might of the US Military - Vietnam. Afghanistan. Iraq. Iran. Cambodia.
Those are areas in which the servicemen were actually trying to do their job - kill the enemy.
They won't be gung ho on native soil - polls have shown law enforcement and military servicemen would disobey orders to shoot civilians if ordered by the president if they believed it was a tyrannical order.
Furthermore - law enforcement and military personnel are the minority in the US - armed citizenry outnumber them over 30-1 - 130mill admitted gun owners to 4mill law enforcement and military combined.
>>691775215
that's the thing in a democracy. but it can and will change eventually, better not get rid of the tools to stop that.
>>691771766
Counter: Name a bigger retard than OP who knows nothing about what's actually going on in the world.
Protip: There is no bigger retard.
![imagesubmarine2sinking[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/iEcrJb2.gif "imagesubmarine2sinking[1].gif")
In every one of these threads:
>I'm not from America, but I lived there once
>I myself live in a EU country the size of New York, but I think I understand what policies are best for a country the size of a continent.
>I continuously forget that the US is essentially 50 closely unified pseudo-nations under one label, and not 50 separate dividing cultures.
>I love being we're overrun with Muslims that don't want to assimilate, learn local language, or respect women on a basic level.
You faggot cucks can't even keep your EU together, let alone know what anyone else should do. Our ship might be burning and on its way down, but you guys sank a long time ago.
Unfortunately, we share a common trait. A territory, in desperation, will exploit its large and uneducated numbers to bolster its violent nationalism. Britain is kicking off your hate of Islam, and Trump is kicking off ours. Take your bets now, m8s.
pic related; the boat we're all on
>>691774948
Stop being a tryhard. You sound like an actual homosexual.
>>691775193
>tzarist russia was fucking armed to the teeth. soviets took those guns, gulags followed.
The Russian Zar was a tyrant by definition, brought down by the people. Isn't that what you want? And you still didn't explain how "people were disarmed" there or even what people.
And tsarist Russia had just lost to the German's in WW1. They certainly weren't armed too the teeth.
>>691775479
trump didn't kick off the hate of muslims. Muslims blowing shit up kicked off our hate of muslims.
>>691773851
No one is innocent
those fags got what they deserved and the faggots flaming over it are asking for more
>>691773160
Too, too, chugga chugga chugga chugga CHOO CHOO! Ah good fun. I like trains.
>>691774963
Rifles - including modern sporting rifles, aka the AR-15 - are used in less than 300 murders a year. Statistically, it's a non event. 5 times as many people are kicked and punched to death in the US.
Banning one type of firearm leads to legal presedence for being able to ban other firearms based on looks, features, etc. which is just a few handfuls of laws away from attempt to ban gun ownership entirely through loopholes - no military calibers, no removable magazines, no barrel shrouds, no adjustable stocks.
None of these would stop crime, but it would force a massive disarmament of the nation which would lead to an increase of crime.
Home invasions became much more common in the weeks and months follow the Port Arthur gun ban in Australia, because armed criminals had much easier targets.
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Gf4u923.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
>>691775269
Because no matter where you are, or who you are, if someone says "America tried to take my oil", or "America is drone striking me again", you know exactly who they're talking about, and don't pretend otherwise.
The world is traded on our dollar, pleb. Our shitty, shitty dollar.
>>691775836
He looks like he likes roids, knitting and little boys' asses...
>>691775682
>Muslims blowing shit up kicked off our hate of muslims.
So because overall 50 Muslims commited terror attacks in the USA the millions that live there are all guilty?
Aren't people like you always bitching about being blamed for slavery and native american genocide just because you are white?
Wonder what it must be like for Muslims to be blamed for things they had nothing to do with...
>>691771766
Shut up, faggot.
You and your tranny friends probably burn flags.
Also, dreailed...
>>691771766
What country in America?
>>691775661
>what people
the russian people, all of them. that's the point of the whole discussion.
the russians lost, because lenin was imported and started a revolution. they had to quit the world war to start infighting. red vs. white army. much of that fighting was done by partisans, well armed civillians. partisans were in the process of sovietisation then turned into a regular unit in the red army, effectively maiking armed civillians military and disarming "white army" partisans that did not wish to join the red army. civillian gun ownership was than completely unlawed when stalin was in power.
>>691776133
Acts like a duck, walks like a duck - probably harbors jihad like a duck.
Go fuck a duck.
>>691775963
>Rifles - including modern sporting rifles, aka the AR-15 - are used in less than 300 murders a year.
So you'd be okay if they banned pistols but let you keep the rifles?
>>691776217
>acts like a white racist
>walks like a white racist
Guess you are to blame for slaver and native American genocide. You should start saving up for those reparation payments, Cletus.
>>691776133
>50 muslims
>white people
>brought in
>now get rid of
it dont matter son. that was then, this is now, difference is that white people are doing something about it, whether it is protecting your ass, or killing your ass. you have no say, because you probably dont actually care
>>691775963
sounds pretty speculative to me.
why not just break the law then? It's not like there won't be a massive black market anyway.
You aren't going to see massive gun bans in America. Mag fed rifles maybe, if the shooting keep up. But not everything. Come on now.
>>691776415
You're forgetting which board you're on now, partner
>>691776133
chief dubs speaks the truth
>>691771766
American here. I have no interest in guns. I had a crossbow once. I traded it for a compound bow because muhlegolas and never ended up learning to use it.
>>691771766
I wouldnt say im obsessed with guns but I like them very much, although I only have 3 and have very expensive taste. It would be cheaper to get a different hobby but I think it will stay. They are fun, I apologize for not having the same interests as you. I wished I liked men.
>>691771766
If you're actually a faggot why wouldn't you carry? Seems like you'd actually be a lot more at risk for having violence done upon you than a large portion of us.
>>691776537
>>white people
>>brought in
>>now get rid of
How about getting rid of white people as well? After all they were brought in aswell brought a lot of terror to the people living there already.
the gun selling business is booming
>>691774948
Under China look up "the great leap forward"
>>691773160
Where are you?
>>691776707
>You're forgetting which board you're on now, partner
I am on /b/ not /pol/, dipshit. Maybe you forgot what board you're on.
Here let me help you >>>/pol/, now fuck off!
>>691771766
> ITT bunch of fags sitting in there mansions judging other people. Go live in somalia or the middle east or some shit then come on here and cry about it, if you survive.
>>691771766
The south will rise again. Don't fuck with the original 13. You sorry liberal piece of shit!
>>691776263
How did you get I was inferring that? Are you stupid?
>>691777152
this
>>691776638
They tried it once 1994 to 2004 - the assault weapons ban.
It had no effect on crime.
Shooting at German cinema leaves 25 injured you guys remember this and Germany is supposed to have super strict gun laws like the brits
Get off our dick. Why is everyone so caught up with what the usa does?
>>691775122
>>691777280
you making a reference to the iuncident last week? the "shooter" was not even using a real gun. any injuries that came to be was caused by the police. it was basicly a suicide by cop.
>>691777152
>>south will rise again
Yeah, I'm sure that'll go well. Just like it did the last time .
>>691777390
freedumbs
>>691777098
+1 for proper form.
+1 for both eyes open on sights
-1 for pink.
I like her.
>>691777443
>>691771766
Syria, Afganistan, and Somalia.
lol that's the ideal we're striving for. Everyone should have a gun! kek
>>691777269
that's a fair point. it has no affect on anything else either.
I'm not really in favor of it, I just don't give a shit. I can make a shotgun work.
>>691777487
>>691777443
The FUCK was that stupid faggot doing? And why is the other guy watching him put his hand in front of it. I mean, in all honestly guns do also help with natural selection.
>>691774154
You sound like a faggot
>>691777468
Did I say anything about freedom you faggot? No. I just asked why everyone else cares when people in the usa couldn't care less about you
>>691777540
Her thumbs going to be in a bit of pain.. I'm sure she'll only do it once, though.
>>691776415
Africans are to blame for European slave trade - black men sold the first black men to whites.
Natives died from diseases Europeans brought over that they had no resistances to.
But don't you worry lil buddy, we kicked them Jack Redcoats back to their shit infested hovel of a tea and crumpet country back in 1776.
Only Americans here now.
>>691771766
Just think of how much worse the population would be if we didnt make eliminating this many people every year so easy though. By now it'd be 3x as big, and full of even more aggressive manic assholes. It's bad enough as it is. More gunz for unstable right-wing lunatics please.
>>691777633
you silly newfriend.
countries other than usa are jelly.jpg of our freedumbs.
get the cock out of your ass and keep up
>>691776707
>>691775023
You're a moron.
>>691776848
this makes you an idiot.
white man is strong. native americans were weak, easy to turn on each other, and practically hosted invaders.
native americans are living on lands given back.
a luxury they wont get from a muslim invasion
>>691777152
>>691777214
>>691777462
Being on welfare but hating the federal government. Typical southern republicans.
>>691777610
> ITT tranny lovers who don't realise history has a tendency to repeat itself and only care about themselves and the times they live in and not their future generations.
How's your liberal arts degree working out for you? Seem to have a lot of time to look up ant i gun pics and post on 4chan..
>>691777880
welfare is for niggers and single moms
>never been to the south
>only perception is that from the media
>tfw media lies
>>691772702
Ever heard of ancient Greece ? O yeah you're not educated.... or any of the hundreds of other animals that produce homosexual offspring, there have always been gay people, even Benjamin Franklin liked to putt from the rough
>>691776944
>>691777672
What if the majority of Americans is in favor of abandoning it, like Britons for the Brexit?
>>691778079
>>691777975
>>691777462
took 4 years and we killed more.
Union Enlistment
2,893,304
Battle Deaths
110,070
Confederate Enlistment
1,317,035
Battle Deaths
94,000
You had more Enlistment and the help from the united states government. now the north is even more pussy then they were back then with their liberal thoughts and Nancy bullshit.
>>691778043
>>never been to the south
I spent five month in Texas. Is that enough to "have been to the south"?
>>691778129
>implying britain will actually leave
>>691778129
clearly does not understand politics
but in all fairness, i dont think they cover government until at least middle school
>inb4 underage b&
>>691777975
I'm not that anon, but it is a bit of a stretch to think a civilian revolt has a chance in hell.
At best we could manage a covert insurgency, terrorist tactics basically. It's not really a smart plan.
>>691777880
right?
I don't get anti-gun individuals. It feels like inherent stupidity and a lifetime of indoctrination is a requirement. They always accuse us of being paranoid but then assume every last one of us will kill someone just because lolguns.
They're also absolutely NOT liberals. Proper liberals support expanding individual rights, not impulse banning them. Anti-gunners are nothing more than authoritarians and collectivists.
>>691778206
no, texas is texas. it is a state in the south, but not "The South".
>being this obvlivious
Even Islamic state is better than america
>>691777880
I don't hate the government. I hate the manipulation.
>>691778148
and how many did kill someone yesterday?
too many.
>>691771766
>>691777870
lolnigger, you are mistaken about a great many things.
Pray to your jewish republican god that you never have to go through & live in the fallout of the shitstorm those fuckers are stuck with, and hve to learn from the bottom what it means to be "strong".
>implying the #1 trait of all white cultures isn't our 2500 year history of constant aggression and war and hate toward each other
>>691778383
>>691778151
Because Obama strictly ignores nigger Chicago
>>691778245
Yeah, tell that to Vietnam and the Middle East. Oh? We lost Vietnam? The Middle East sects aren't wiped out and are still growing? Interesting. Not to mention 75% or more of our own military would refuse to attack their own country or family and friends, also bringing things they have access too.
because banning something works
>>691778154
God didn't make all men equal, Mister Colt did.
Liberal and armed reporting. I'm a good fucking shot too.
>>691778451
>>691774697
Wow.... you're fucking retarded, have you ever even left the states or have you been to Niagara Falls ? Switzerland is like the Rose of the world, have of people love it, half of people are just confused.
>>691778451
To be fair, this was also before Niggers were let off the leash and ghetto'd everything up. Upstanding Black people are cool, but fuck niggers.
>>691778524
By all means, go try right now then. I wont stop you.
It's a dumb fucking plan.
>>691773160
comme fag we will rape your shit country and probably already are; stay irrelevant
>>691778451
That kids white though.
The founding fathers never planned on the darkies getting their hands on the guns.
>>691778206
>hurr-durr
>lived in austin for five months
>now a texan
>>691778383
Reagan was fucking retarded. I cringe when I hear anyone bring up how great reagan was, and I'm not even a self ass fingering fart sniffing liberal.
dammit i want those extra 3600 rapes per day
>>691778245
Considering US gun owners horribly outnumber the entire US military it's a little more plausible. Even just that commonly stated 3% of gun owners is more people than the entire military.
>>691777539
See - allowing gun bans based of features opens the door legally to other gun bans based on features.
It is through these legal steps they could essentially severely limit what the public could have access to.
Limiting the public to calibers that the military doesn't use is already in common practice overseas - so 9mm, .45acp, 12 gauge, 5.56 and 7.62x51 would be the common calibers gone for the public. If they expanded it to include law enforcement use, you'd add .357Mag and .357Sig, .40S&W, .38Spl, and .380ACP.
See how limiting it's becoming?
>>691774948
Exactly almost everyone was armed in soviet Russia and Mao ruled china. Also being disarmed is different then using weapons for the war effort like in Germany
>>691778538
Armed liberal? in the same sentence. you sir are confused!
>>691778556
>implying gun rights supporters must be GOP
>not realizing all libtards arent retarded
>tfw
>>691778729
go ahead and rape 3600 persons daily.
>>691778245
The military is comprised of people. Once shit gets real, a *lot* of soldiers would be abandoning their posts to go protect their own families.
Soldiers don't want to hurt civilians, and any true, large-scale revolt will hinge on that fact. It's crazy - but talk to any US soldier and they'll tell you the same thing; they're just as for the downfall of a tyrannical government as the rest of us, some even moreso.
>>691778524
Isis basically hid until we pulled out.
Nobody is pulling out of the homeland.
Trust me, there's plenty of cops and soldiers that'll put a bullet into with a smile.
>>691778451
speaking of
>>691778829
ban guns and it will happen
>>691778885
>>691778524
>75%
lol
After the patriot act was passed, our commander had this discussion with us.
I think you'll be surprised to find out how wrong you are about that percentage you pulled out your ass.
>>691778788
>>691778425
>strong
>mental
pick one you apologetic cocksucker
>>691778939
>>691778524
You DO know the middle east isn't just one tiny little group of homogenous countries right ?
>>691778600
>Switzerland is like the Rose of the world, have of people love it, half of people are just confused.
Nein. Ich besitze leider nicht genügen illegales Kapital für eine dauerhafte Aufenthaltsgenehmigung in der der Schweiz. Außerdem ist der Dialekt unerträglich.
>>691778383
Not enough. You're still here.
>>691775122
Which will be sued and shot down because a list of gun owners has already been ruled unconstitutional by the supreme court in 2008.
>>691778939
If you don't realize they'd be going door to door right now if they could get away with it you're a moron.
>>691778640
Do you not understand why they push so hard to have the best options civilians have banned and removed? They are afraid of it. Many people I know personally who serve in the armed forces say that almost everyone they know in there would never fire or attack their own country and would fight against it. Sadly, if there was another Civil Dispute in America, another country or countries would capitalize and probably attempt to wipe both sides out if they could.
>>691777443
>>691778751
yeah, except that won't happen. It's unenforceable. They won't even try.
you're regurgitating firearms marketing. there's no gun ban coming, ever.
>>691771766
Brazil
>>691771766
>>691778768
>Exactly almost everyone was armed in soviet Russia and Mao ruled china.
Those people could hardly afford to eat. Couldn't afford medical treatment or school for their children but they could afford guns, of course...we aren't talking about Alabamians here.
Name a more faggot
Pro Tip: OP
Here is a pro gun tip for ya.
Imagine a world that every law abiding citezens turned over their guns (all of them).
Now imagine that same world were criminals buy them off the street or steal the ones that have been hid.
Feel safe?
If gun control is put into place it will not stop crime. Crime will increase because noone will be worried about that 10-15 minute + response time.
At least I know I wouldn't be worried about it.
>>691774812
See this;
>>691778059
Says who? Ben Franklin was a known womanizer, not a faggot like you.
>>691776186
Honduras. They have a terrible gun murder rate, over 10 times the USA's, for example.
>>691776133
>>691776415
>>691776848
>>691779066
No, I am regurgitating the SCOTUS rulings on allowing gun bans based on features that has happened in the past, and the need to fight them at the public level if they try again.
See the recent refusal of SCOTUS about the assault weapons ban in Connecticut.
This is what I am talking about.
>>691778937
If you're actually in the service and not just a keyboard warrior pretending to be, you would fire on your own people, family, friends, and countrymen just because an old man who sits behind a desk who would love to send your scrawny little simple minded ass to die for his amusement and politics or put cash in his own pockets tells you to? You are a sad, simplistic person.
>>691778961
>When I dont know shit to back up my idiotic opinions, I just dig the fuckin hole deeper and sit in it.
cool
>>691778967
for you since you seem to have something lodged in your vagina
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HKOI79GVHU&list=PLpbzJZcZqiWOnR6P6aELdGscvkkPG8gCN&index=5
>>691779242
Indians didn't gave gun control though. They had plenty of guns.
>>691778939
> Dat failed reverse psychology
>>691779040
Ha, no they aren't. If they were they'd ban everything. By your logic if simple numbers were all that mattered we could all show up, fire one bullet and go home.
It's doesn't work like that. Civilians don't have aircraft giving them real time surveillance and air strike cover, and reinforcement waiting in the wings, and aircraft carriers dropping food and supplies in.
it takes quite a bit of logistics to win a war.
>>691779277
>the unimaginable
Meaning that which doesn't exist in this case, you autist.
>>691778939
>b-b-but you are all gun nuts, and nobody wants to ban guns
>fuck you all you are potential k-k-killers
>>691778338
Really? Have you ever been to America?
>>691779016
>you
>>691771766
>mfw my shed has more guns than that
>>691779242
Why didn't freedom loving gun rights activists support the native Americans in their fight for freedom back then?
>>691779321
no you
>>691779232
> Relying on another country to properly report a different countries statistics without bias.
Sure, why not, if you're fucking retarded.
>>691779294
Ok be scared of nothing. I don't really give a fuck.
>>691777443
You seem think we have to be scared of something to own guns. Stop that.
I own guns because holy fucking shit they're fun to shoot. Doesn't matter if I'm dumping mags through my AK or doing some accuracy practice with my huntin gun, shit is fun. Also planning to shoot Bambi in the face, but it's mostly just shooting the things.
>>691779152
You know how ak47s ended up everywhere around the world after the fall of the iron curtain ? That's because they literally had millions of them...
>>691779449
You really need to pay more attention to your own government dude.
>>691779503
>implying that people in your country would be less biased
fuck off you twat, holy shit
>>691779596
>banning legal guns will stop massing shootings
>just like banning legal alcohol stopped people from drinking
>r-right g-guys..
>>691779241
And also a narco state.....
>>691779383
Again, I stress many in our own military would not support such an act against their own countrymen, and access to those would be on both sides. Unless the people have been replaced by Yes men until that is no longer possible, which has been happening at times. Terrorist groups still thrive and survive because they are being supported by other countries with some of the same types of things.
>>691779277
>food is gone form the store
>>691771766
As an American, I completely agree
Spider Man.
Where art thow spiderman?
This thread needs your help spider man!!!!
>>691779472
So the number of hand guns went up 500% but the violent crime rate only dropped 45%?
What kind of scale is that anyway?
>>691772978
Underrated comment
>>691779708
Count the number of mass shootings after Australia's gun ban.
..wait, you can't
>>691779775
>american
i think you meant sissy beta faggot
>>691779497
>why would they?
>why would anyone want a potential resistance?
>why am i not able to logic?
>>691779313
Not Active Duty. Retired 2012.
We swear our oath to (what's left of) the Constitution, not to any gaggle of radical armed idiots coup trying to overthrow the government via illegal, unconstitutional means and install their own martial law.
Realize that you'd be a far greater threat than any foreign enemy, and will be handled with extreme discretion, and engaged with maximum force.
This is why we have extra-constitutional legislation to punish treason in the harshest manner in the first place.
math bitches
>>691777032
I'm not apart of this conversation. Just wanted to say I like that reaction image
>>691778148
Looks like that isn't that much, but still 10 times as much as in most other 1st world countries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate
>>691771766
america isnt a country dipshit its a continent. several of them. be more specific.
>>691779745
This tho
>>691779708
They don't get that it's not exactly hard to make a gun if you have to and they forget who our southern neighbor is. Moment guns get banned the cartels move north bringing smuggled chinkshit and slavshit with them.
>>691779836
Getting rid of guns didn't stop other forms of mass murder did it? Nothing like arson with a body count right?
>>691779708
O yeah I forgot I have my liquor cannon in my closet that fires mini one drink bottles at 2000 fps to kill things with. And I mean if murder is going to happen anyways why do we even keep it illegal? Just legalize it since criminals will do it anyway
>>691779497
Native Americans did fight, they were just overrun with superior tech and were at war with each other was well. Do you not realise the point of the second amendment? They realised these things, and found that people should have access to equal or greater force to those who are able to opress them, it's just that massive destruction devices being invented and access to those things have been slowly eroded away by fear and prejudice over the years.
>>691779836
>comparing America to Australia
Oop Oop oop, gonna stop ya right there.
That's a 1st world to 2nd world comparison, we're looking for equals.
>>691779662
great argument, keep it up. You sound very intelligent.
>>691775103
No, get it right! His name is Vladimir Lenin, that's why he's being such a commie!
>>691779960
>requires citizens to own guns
Go back to your basement, idiot.
/k/'s response to a buyback.
They're single shot shotguns.
>>691773160
tfw other countries cant manage to be number 1 AGAINST A "indoctrinated egotistical brainwashed fucks on the planet" country so to drown their envy they shit talk to the top dog to make their pitiful country seem relevant. Sorry anon but nice try. So if we're what anon stated and still on top of the food chain... What does that make you guys?
>>691777152
>>691779895
I don't like this.
Fuk u.
>>691779992
>because literally every gun owner owns an automatic high velocity rifle
Whew fam, nice logic there.
>>691780082
Good work refuting what I said there buddy.
Also, see image.
>>691779960
Honduras is a drug state, Switzerland is a place where it is hard to be sad in, it's hard to frown in Switzerland
>I’ve shot pistols before, but never something like an AR-15. Squeeze lightly on the trigger and the resulting explosion of firepower is humbling and deafening (even with ear protection).
>The recoil bruised my shoulder, which can happen if you don't know what you're doing. The brass shell casings disoriented me as they flew past my face. The smell of sulfur and destruction made me sick. The explosions — loud like a bomb — gave me a temporary form of PTSD. For at least an hour after firing the gun just a few times, I was anxious and irritable.
-libtard reporter for ny daily news
>Gun control fags never heard of Switzerland
A ton of their population has military-grade rifles, but their gun crime rate is very low. This is because everyone knows everyone else has a gun and can defend themselves.
We don't have a gun problem, we have a nigger problem. The majority of gun crime in America is committed by niggers, or is suicide.
>>691771766
>>691779895
>We swear our oath to (what's left of) the Constitution, not to any gaggle of radical armed idiots coup trying to overthrow the government via illegal, unconstitutional means and install their own martial law.
You swear an oath to the thing created by the people who did the same exact thing. Some logic there. If by your definition, the founding fathers performed the highest act of treason. Your logic is flawed, and I'm sorry your time in the military blinded you to only follow orders from the people who care the least abour your life or well being. How's the VA treating you yet? Give it about 20 years and you'll see.
>>691772983
lol spartans were all fags
god I love drinking daily of the overflowing up of eurocuck tears who are so buttfurious over the fact that I can buy a gun if I want to without having to swim through an ocean of paperwork for my political overlords to give me permission.
>>691773851
>The Weimar Republic failed because large parts of the population were anti-democratic and supported national socialism.
>. Large parts of the population were anti-democratic and supported national socialism because the Weimar Republic failed.
fix'd it for ya
>>691779836
cause the multiple murders in private spaces don't count into this statistic
>>691780269
Nice, focusing on just gun deaths. What about violent crime? Deaths because people were unable to defend themselves from some of the insane creatures in Aus? No? Just focusing on gun deaths? Ok then.
>>691780469
Those aren't mass shootings you utter, utter cuck
Am I the only that finds it amusing that anyone thinks the government will have any success in taking away people guns if they do repeal the 2nd amendment? Just look at the war on drugs if you want to see how taking away guns is going to end up.
>>691779934
>usa
>first world county
you wish...
>why we dont need guns
>>691780314
That actually sounds like fun. -another libtard, because liberal means "many", referring to viewpoints; as in many viewpoints.
Armed leftie. Fuck your false dichotomy.
>>691780269
In other words even before the law there was a downward trend and the law didn't really do that much? It leveled out after the law too, instead of continuing to drop beyond that.
Besides, what about everything else? Surely guns are not the only method of death that matters right?
>>691779960
do some research before posting right wing bullshit
http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/hondswitz.asp
This thread reminded me why I drink, that and my shaking hands. Gun nuts are fucking idiots
>>691780493
People dying to the creatures tend to be fuckwits or just unlucky. I'd prefer fuckwits dying to their own stupidity and some unlucky, rare folk dying than fuckloads of fucking open carry American faggots walking around.
>>691780455
but I need big daddy gubmint to tell me what I can and can't do. I'm scared
>>691780328
>>Gun control fags never heard of Switzerland
Actually we do. I think the real problem is that you have no idea what Switzerland is like. Switzerland doesn't have lower crime rates the the countries surrounding it which all have very tight gun control. Guess this will be little more complicated to explain for your pea brain.
Better start posting something about refugees.
>>691779836
6 non-terrorist and a whole lot of stabbings to replace them? That was pretty easy.
>isolated island made up mostly of rich white people
>having a lot of violence in the first place
lol
>>691779960
>>691780616
Kek.
>>691780585
First world means allied with the US and NATO during the cold war, second world means allied with the USSR, third world means neutral, Switzerland and Sweden are technically third world. It has nothing to do with development or money, idiots just don't know what it means
>>691780683
I wouldn't want you owning a firearm if you dived into a bottle of jack every night either. Go drink and drive, I'm sure that would work out well for you. Your shaking hands is because you're a pussy and scared of everything, sorry to hear that.
>>691780044
You fucking idiot. If you actually used a second world example you would look a lot better by comparison. Instead you pretend Australia is a second world nation because they have less mass shootings than you and a lower crime rate.
>>691771766
>blood thirsty
Britian, France, Russia, UAE, Qatar, Turkey, Pakistan, Iran, Israel, Rowanda, Cuba, Columbia, Serbia, China
>>691780619
>avoiding the elephant in the room
libtard journalist was lying out his ass.
>wonders why no pics of bruising
>wonders why video of entering gun range, leaving gun range, but no shooting
>wonders where journalistic integrity went
>>691780722
People carry weapons every day. There could be people around you carrying weapons and you would not have a single goddamn clue because they aren't fucking stupid or a criminal. Stop being a fucking pussy, for real.
>>691779596
You're an idiot. They didn't say that Americans have the right to bear poorly-functioning muskets. It says "arms". Our founding fathers knew that technology wasn't a constant.
>>691771766
The thing i find most bizarre about the gun debate in America is their sense of priorities. The US government has shat all over their constitution, but gun ownership is still the hot topic. Unconstitutional data retention, invasion of privacy and data mining, Snowden leaks? The Boston Marathon bombings, two people allow a whole district to fall under martial law, your home can be invaded by the military? Freedom of speech has been a joke ever since Vietnam, protest songs can be illegal? Major corporations can pay zero tax, do as they wish, exploit loopholes in international tax law? Everything you post on social media is soaked into huge data warehouses and left there for anyone to read? 600 billion a year defense budget while you have third world healthcare? And you are worried about your right to buy guns for self defense in case of a civil war? For fucks sake, the time for civil war has come and gone.
>>691780376
Well gee whiz thanks for explaining it all lol. Without you and your incredibly new simplistic understanding of the entire ethical 2500 year discussion of military ethics, no one ould have ever thought of that.
I hope youre about 15, to have the world all figured out this well.
>>691775712
nice edge mate, reminded me that i and you no doubt need a shave eh friendo?
>>691780619
Armed leftie us a false dichotomy just like educated conservative most liberals agree with gun control and some own guns, most conservatives are retarded but some can wipe their own asses . I'm left wing and own a couple guns but I believe we need gun control badly that doesn't mean banning them.
>>691779960
>Because Honduras is a first world country
>>691771766
>>691771766
Gun-obsessed, no. Blood-thirsty, Israel, dick head, Russia.
>>691780974
Finally, someone reasonable in this thread.
>>691781005
>journalistic integrity
>usa
>at literally any time in our history ever
wut
I find it funny that a lot of you hate atheists when all it is, is a idea that one doesn't believe in a deity. Like I live my life without much care knowing there is no super being in the sky. Honestly I don't see why this idea is plagued with edgy autists and overweight neckbeards. I mean, religion is not healthy and overall believing in a super being is a waste if time but you can believe what you want. Just don't put me into a group just because some are like that
>>691779662
Excellent rebuttal. Name-calling trumps logic, hands-down.
>>691780881
well... that definition is not what is used today.
it may have been used once, but today it's about economics.
just as idiot was once a medical term.
>>691781043
So by that logic anyone should be allowed to have stinger missiles, armed jets, nuclear weapons and everything since they didn't specify what types of arms ?
Mexico has some of the strictest gun laws. Very high rate of gun violence. Explain?
>>691781045
This is true. So very true. The problem is the government has succeeded in splitting races, liberalism is on the rise, everyone is either in a safe space or whining the loudest or being violent to protest violence and racism, and the country is fucked. The 2nd Amendment is the last line of defense until everything just straight goes completely fucked. Thats why it's such a hot topic. A lot of people 10 years ago didn't believe anything people were saying about the spying and such, and when it actually came out to be true, some people still refused to believe it. It's ridiculous.
>>691780794
Yes, but they still have a fairly low gun homicide rate (.23 per 1000). This means that a society can function with a high amount of guns and low crime rate.
Look at Mexico. Guns are illegal there, yet their murder rate is extremely high. That is what the 'hoods' will be like in America after gun control. Nobody will be able to enforce it on the niggers, but the good citizens will be forced out of their protection.
>>691781270
Sure - guns from the US flow over the border like ants to sugar. Read Gun, Baby, Gun by Jeff Farrel, it goes into it really well.
>taken in brazil
>could be US any day of the week
another reason we /dont/ need guns
>>691781059
Cool. Assuming an age and not responding with anything refuting what I said. Can I give you an order to shut the fuck up and you will follow it? Seems following orders is all that you are good at.
>>691781043
>You're an idiot.
>>691781111
Same, but an armed leftie can only be a false dichotomy if the aforementioned dichotomy isnt false.
So which are you saying is false? Either the oversimpified political faction marketing propaganda is BS, or you and I don't exist.
>>691771766
>sounds like you need a drink OP
>you sound like the gun-obsessed dickhead
>>691781364
Yeah but that just shows that stricter gun laws dont prevent anyone from having guns from people who are willing to break the law.
>>691781364
You mean when our own US government sold the same guns they claim to be so dangerus and want to take out of law abiding citizens hands to the cartels which got many people and some americans killed? Check out Fast and Furious.
Its all psychological, we love violence, drama, and gore. Browse Netflix or surf through TV Channels and you'll find nothing but this garbage.
>>691780920
I do own firearms and no its about GABAb receptors being fucked. And early onset Parkinsons but whatever. Just realize you're literally a pawn to the weapons industry. I don't drink and drive just like how if my sister or family brings a kid over I lock my guns away securely unlike some nice NRA leaders last year who toddlers blew their own face off with ....
>>691781375
I'm confused. Maybe I'm not sensing the sarcasm. A citizen successfuly protecting his own life and the shopkeep from a robber with a gun is a reason we don't need them?
>>691781376
>makes stupid claim
>gets corrected
>responds with stupidity and insults
>gets mocked
>replies with shutup
Ok, sure, you win. Feel better now?
>>691781591
You made my point for me, with the absence of those guns it wouldn't have been a fucking issUE YOU FUCKING MORON
>>691771766
You should campaign in Orlando
>>691781674
precisely
>>691780493
>What about violent crime?
pic related.
I get a bit tired of people using my country as an example. Yes, knives have replaced guns as the weapon of choice, but violent crime has been slowly declining for - well, forever really.
I'm not impressed by the 'no mass shootings' argument either. Mass shootings are such a rare event that the absence of one, even for 20 years, hold no real statistical importance. Besides that, there have been a couple of terrorism related shootings that could easily have become mass shooting but were contained early by police. There have also been several large cashes of illegal weapons seized by the Feds that were intended for use in home-grown terrorist attacks.
>>691781714
Cool. Name calling when logic and corruption is introduced. Must be another government supporting lib. Welfare check will be in soon, get ready!
>>691781714
>US makes guns illegal
>Anon thinks all the guns will just disappear
Do you really think the US government wouldnt sell those guns? The US is one of if not the biggest international arms dealer.
>>691781629
I'm at least able to use those weapons in defense of my life, family, property, and more. If I was a pawn of the government or anything else, I would have nothing but hope that they would take care of me, and that's not what I want.
>>691781843
I'm actually a communist, but whatever label you want to apply to me is fine if it gives you that reacharound feeling.
>>691778245
The military and police have sworn oaths to defend the constitution. Not to defend the federal govt. they'd be on our side. The govt knows this. That's why the left keeps trying to get us to vote away our rights. The framework to overthrow a tyrannical American govt is already in place. The only way we would lose is if we vote for our loss by means of voting away our rights in favor of false security. And we won't just lose the 2A. If we do that we will lose the whole damn thing. And liberals eat that shit up.
>>691780683
Please continue to not fire guns. You're clearly genetic garbage.
>>691781302
>liberalism is on the rise
All of human history is liberalism, you stupid nigger. Conservative humans who conserve the status quo cant adapt to a changing world, discover and invent nothing, and are continually left behind in to stagnate and die.
The only way to stop liberalization is to stop time.
>>691781700
Actually, I said you didn't refute anything I said, which you still didn't. I didn't win anything, in fact, I feel more at a loss because another drone is out in the world ready to do any man or woman who claims to be above them behind a desks bidding at a whim.
>>691781934
So now it's a matter of destroying them, is what you're saying. If they weren't around, the issue wouldn't be there.
>>691771766
>Name a more cum thirsty, cok obsessed dick head of a country than America.
I corrected this for you Mr Buttpirate.
>>691782076
Eventually all liberals become conservatives.
>>691781812
Did you also know that in the US, places with higher legal firearm ownership has crime drops as well? Places with strict gun laws, like Chicago, has only crime stats go up? No? Don't like to hear that? Ok then.
>>691781934
you really think the gov't would be able to take back any significant portion of "banned" guns?
oh.... wait, we just let the cops right in......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tweC6mcTbm0
>>691782010
Yuck. That worked out well for every country who has tried it, didn't it?
>>691781045
>priorities
>opinions
i get it what you are saying. we can address everything you mentioned and then some, and get nowhere because we may have opposing ideas.
like you possibly believe we should all have health care, and i believe you should be able to go and buy health care, i dont want health care, but am happy for you if you get it, another guy however may say i am obligated to get it in order for everyone to make the system work.
too many opinions.
but with guns, you either want guns gone, or not gone. simple and easy for the media to create tension in a flash.
>>691782214
Correlation =\= causation, thanks.
living in north Dakota i was almost robbed 2 fucking times luckily i had my .32 revolver in my holster one had a knife while i was walking in the park demanded my money i pulled my pistol he kind of ran away idk why and one had a pistol i had just walked in my house closed the door 10 seconds later fucker busted in my door told me to give him all my money pulled im wallet gave it to him then said i had more money in my coat pulled my pistol he dropped my wallet and ran so damn quick out my house
>>691782178
fucked up, no one put up a fight
>>691781932
We still do this on weekends.
The girls are just fat and obnoxious now, and cn't dres themselves.
>>691782098
But if the government takes them there is no way they arent selling roughly 350,000,000 guns to other countries for massive profits. Also one of the deterrents of attacking the US is all the armed civilians.
