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>>691460479
Go away evil dogger
>>691460516
Dogger not evil
>>691460587
Hmm smelly love
>>691461091
>>691461763
>>691461816
Gross
>>691461914
>>691461957
>>691461971
Thats better
>>691462130
>>691462222
>>691462716
Well I'm hard now
urgh
>>691463624
gooood day fam
>>691460479
>Furries Are Retarded /Thread
kill yourself faggot
>>691464113
>the state of international sports
the fuck is happening
>>691464206
good'ol days..
what are you referring to
Euros
June Tests
Copa
its all a mess
well I don't know anything about internation sports that aren't esports
al
well cologne is coming up, so that should be good then.
do they hold LoL at ESL cologne?
>>691464816
I don't think so, the only major tourney outside of the official riot ones is IEM
if they do hold something it doesn't get any press from riot
will there be overwatch there?
go away evil dogger
>>691465312
nyoro~n
>>691465420
How's life darling?
>>691465474
same as always
got my first-ever job rejection yesterday because my grades were too low
>>691465553
I can't say I find that terribly surprising. Hang in there.
>>691465196
I would assume not, only Koreans take Blizzard games seriously.
Plus TF2 and all of its clones have never really been competitive.
>>691465648
overwatch is pretty fucking popular but it's not at that tier yet
>>691465636
it was a bit of a bummer
>>691465648
it's got a bit of a competitive scene so far
I dunno how far up the "real deal" ladder gosugamers tournaments are
>>691465980
Well you'll work it out, I'm sure. Worst case scenario you'll make a great male prostitute.
>>691466125
worst case scenario I move to vancouver and work at 7/11
>>691466228
that is, actually, the worst case scenario.
>>691466272
I want to do a *wink wink nudge nudge* here but for some reason it doesn't feel appropriate
>>691466362
Being as diplomatic as I can here, since you already know what I think about a few of your hypotheticals.
why are they playing modest mouse in the intermission of an overwatch tournament
I thought it was traditional to play awful electronic music
>>691466483
yeah
>>691466610
>playing modest mouse in the intermission
There's one of two explanations: either the DJ is actually tasteful, or it's going to turn into a house remix in 10 seconds.
>>691466683
no they played "world at large" straight up
I wonder why they chose that
>>691465809
Halo 2 had the same match scene, but it didnt go very far either tbh
>>691465980
gosu?
half of these pros are just ex-tf2 pros though
>>691466833
https://www.twitch
.tv/gosugamers
>>691466824
Because it's a nihilistic anthem, appropriate for an age of aimless young amateurs bereft of ambition?
>>691466833
I know 0 about halo.
>>691466961
man, rip tf2.
>>691467022
or they like the way it sounds
from the way they're talking about tf2 it seems they think overwatch has a lot more strategic depth
I dunno though I'm not paying that close attention
>>691466961
well, its wasnt like it was hard to carry over tf2 into overwatch
>>691467022
from my experience, anything post bungie is kind of just trash.
good: music, story, co-op campaign
meh: gameplay is a bit slow
bad: anything post bungie, sinngle player is a bit slow
>>691467492
I have not played overwatch or even watched 10 minutes of footage so I have no idea if it's deeper or not. It would not be difficult to be deeper than tf2.
>>691467515
also
>>>>>>>>CONSOLE SHOOTERS
You're autism is showing
>>691467515
yeah they're pretty similar on the surface
>>691467658
what is your impression of it despite your lack of experience
>>691467676
nice split consecutive satanic dubtrips, friend, checked
>>691467838
well it still has sentries
sentries are fucking gay
>>691467658
Halo was made for the PC originally, Microsoft carried it over to the HUEG and then gained popularity more so on the HUEg/360 with 2
>>691467838
does Overwatch have all the same movements as TF2 does? rocketjumping and such?
>>691468067
Yeah I know but people who talk about halo I find talk more about the post-PC games.
>>691467943
yeah they suck if you don't have the right team to deal with it but they're only super strong at certain points
but yes there are still sentries
>>691468067
not as such but a lot of the characters have some sort of mobility skill like a long jump or being able to climb up walls or something
it's definitely a very 3D game as opposed to something like counterstrike
>>691468156
it definitely is the turning point of the conversion of FPS from PC to console
>>691468516
It's not even about how viable they are, since I don't know. I think they're inherently bad game design. Like wobbling.
>>691468565
Which is a DRAMATIC LOSS in quality for the entire genre.
>>691468610
why's that? it just creates sort of an artificial objective to overcome and is generally rendered null by map control
>>691468516
so it has the titanfall mechanics with tf2 weapon classes?
>>691468610
meh, it kept ceratin companies afloat, and most of the games came out across all platforms.
but it did restrict the engines they were able to use
>>691468782
hey, how's it going
>>691468847
I hate being killed by something in an FPS that didn't require someone to shoot at me. It is an inherently shallow interaction because I am the only party with any influence on the outcome. Temporarily turning PvP into PvE is anti-depth.
>>691468966
And the genre got slower and baser as the console appeal expanded. It was a loss all round except for the pocketbooks of the kikes.
>>691468966
I suppose, I never played titanfall
much more character diversity as well, obviously, only a few bear resemblance to tf2 classes
>>691469110
it's a strategic interaction rather than a mechanical one
>>691469434
Right, but you can have both by not having sentries and having human players fill an identical role when called for.
>>691469520
there's a character in overwatch that is basically that
>>691469610
so why do they have sentries again
>>691469110
I dont mind it, there is a lot of difference in game style when playing a fast FPS than slow that I enjoy.
>>691469434
makes sense really, they are walking on thin ice with their game likeliness with TF2.
>>691469689
the entire concept of the fast FPS might as well have been dead for a decade, though. Slow FPS predated the move to console. It was only a loss.
RIP tribes
>>691469663
they must not share your views on player interaction
>>691469689
they really are, although I feel the aesthetic and mechanics are different enough and there's enough additional content that it qualifies as a different game
>>691470008
I think developers add them into FPS to help garbage newbies get some free kills.
>>691468983
hey buddy
>>691470164
doing well?
>>691470103
bastion as a character is about as frustrating to play against as a sentry though, from all the dps he's able to put out once he's set up
definitely considered more of a "noskill" hero than torbjorn (the sentry guy)
>>691470443
I don't like heavy in tf2 either.
>>691470436
doing fine and you
>>691469784
both versions are good, you just need to get good.
>>691470008
which also makes sense since Valve hasnt said anything about likeness.
>>691460479
>>691470515
There is nothing good about console FPS that isn't better on PC.
>>691470511
i'm doing same as always.
that picture jeck uploaded with a guy waking up around a whole family was pretty freaky wasn't it
>>691470753
freaky and hot
>>691470510
probably not worth it to run down the list of every overwatch character to see if you approve of them
>>691470515
valve seems like they'd be pretty chill about that sort of thing, but you never know with copyright shit
>>691470827
I thought you didn't like son x mother eeed
>>691470847
I don't know enough about any of them to judge. I can only state general principles here.
HELLO FRIENDS
>>691470588
split screen co-op
split screen multi
less hacking
>>691470847
Blizzards pockets might run a bit deeper at this point. And since TF2 is F2P, they might not be able to argue the deterrence of sales.
>>691471175
split screen is among the worst ways to experience FPS and is in any case possible on a PC, most just don't bother implementing it.
Hacking can still be done on console. I'm talking about the inherent limitations of the systems here.
hi david
>>691471068
it's a pretty fun game nonetheless
as far as whether it's a GOOD game it's hard to say
it has a few frustrating mechanics and imbalanced maps/characters and the whole "matchmaking put me on a team with 5 bonobos" thing endemic to team-based multiplayer games everywhere but blizzard has communicated that they are committed to improving these as time goes on and overall I find I'm enjoying each game more often than not
>>691471175
I dunno if the tf2 secondary market is as strong as it used to be, either
>>691471718
again I still know basically nothing about it. I'm sure it's not terrible.
>>691471845
do you plan to play it
>>691471327
>everything is shit and heres why
you are one salty individual, I have had a great time playing split screen with my friends.
>>691471718
No idea either, there is more money to be made in CSGO now.
>>691460479
*BRAAAAAPPPPPPPPPP*
>>691471968
at least he added "here's why" and gave arguments
you just say he's wrong because you have fun
>>691471968
yeah, with the prices some of these skins fetch
who'd have thought purely cosmetic accessories would make more money than actual gameplay-affecting ones
>>691470983
Cat avatar hnngh
>>691471967
Not really. If someone buys it for me I would but I'm realistic about my own desire to play games that aren't melee these days.
>>691471968
I had fun playing battlefront 2 split screen too, it's still mechanically garbage. FoV options are pretty important.
>>691472109
This is how most of my conversations about video games go.
>>691472148
>who'd have thought purely cosmetic accessories would make more money than actual gameplay-affecting ones
almost anyone who understands behavioral economics
>>691470983
im a very hypocritical
>>691460479
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>>691472203
understandable
yeah, the whole pay2win thing, makes sense now I think about it
>>691472166
hugs
i'm going to my dad's
>>691472109
it really wasnt a, here why, as it was just an observation of companies cutting corners to prevent cost
>>691472148
dont most knifes fetch over 100USD now?
>>691472203
you should try enjoying things more often than complaining about them
>>691472334
And cosmetics are STATUS. People will do some idiot shit for status.
>>691472488
You should try to learn the difference between complaint and criticism.
Also I enjoy criticizing.
>>691472343
Aw, right now? Or sometime later today?
>>691472488
around that I believe for the cheap ones, yes
>>691472570
don't I know it
league accounts with certain limited edition skins on it can be sold for hundreds
>>691472593
naow
>>691472294
thx for the bump
>>691472733
Oh. Did you switch to phone?
>>691472684
The brilliance of a cosmetic only progression system is that it gives all involved the egalitarian feeling of the american dream (work hard to get ahead - if I play well I'll succeed, nothing's keeping me back but me etc) but wraps it up with visual, visceral feedback on who a have and a have not is. As usual, blizzard's greatest talent in game development is not actually making good video games, it's psychological manipulation
>>691472570
they are the same, when you criticize, you complain
and i know
>>691472684
thats fucking ridiculous, like I have all these cases, but for me to purchase a key and expect a profit is less than 20%. This is casino tier
>>691472908
Yus
>>691472965
No, they aren't.
>>691473035
except yes, an unwarranted critic is a complaint
SNUGGLES SAY HELLO PLEASE
>>691473034
You should give me that cat avatar folder :3
>>691473132
Critique. And complaints are often warranted. Stop making up definitions of words.
>>691472946
do you mean valve
blizzard's cosmetic unlocking structure is pretty lenient, you can get the stuff you want after a couple dozen hours of playing
paying just accelerates it, doesn't get you anything you can't get without
>>691472965
yeah dude
casinos make a ton of money
>>691473181
Sure, it's not even mine, jaja.
by blizzard's I meant overwatch's
>>691473343
Valve learned it from blizzard. Blizzard has been doing it in different ways for a long time. WoW and diablo are predicated on a rather different manipulative mechanism.
>>691473397
Pfff jajaja. I was about to say, how do you get another cap done so quick.
>>691473625
It's ancient. Anyway, you could use a cute one
although I do wonder if blizzard plans to sell anything else in overwatch
I can't imagine they're making too much money just from selling loot crates for $2 a pop
oh and there's the exclusive skins you can get for ORIGINS EDITION for only $20 MORE, those slipped my mind
>>691473530
oh yes, I forgot about those
those are a lot more predatory from what I've heard
>>691473323
>a detailed analysis and assessment of something, especially a literary, philosophical, or political theory.
the user of the complaint might see it as warranted, but no one else will. That is unless someone asks them too. Which I did not in this case, which makes your arguments complaints.
>>691473343
have you ever been to one? seems rather boring.
>>691473846
I can't promise I'd use it, though. You know how I feel about people thinking I might be cute. :I
hello please
>>691473869
Well yeah since they don't have the veneer of being skill based like overwatch does. Blizzard are the masters of that sort of thing.
>>691474004
Right, I'm giving you the quick and dirty version of my critique of console FPS. I still don't see where your definition of "complaint" includes "unwarranted criticism." You're making this up.
>>691474004
I haven't
I imagine it's fun if you like blackjack or poker or just the thrill of skill-less gambling on something like roulette or slots
or if you're rich and just want to get wasted and throw away some cash
>>691474109
how cunning
do you have a high opinion of the company as a whole or no
>>691474109
no one asks for a complaint from people do they?
THANK YOU
I MUST GO
AVERY I WILL SEND YOU A MESSAGE LATER AFTER I DRINK AND WORK UP THE COURAGE TO JUST RANDOMLY MESSAGE YOU
isn't complaint a superset of criticism
a criticism is just a complaint that someone can do something about
>>691474399
okay I look forward to it
>>691474332
>blackjack
>no skill
Somebody can't count cards.
>>691474313
That doesn't have a penis...does it?
IS THAT DALLAS
>>691474527
I equated skill-less gambling with slots and roulette, not poker and blackjack
>>691474333
Critiques aren't often requested either, except by artists. Everyone still needs to hear them.
>>691474332
I mean, they're GOOD at being evil.
>>691474503
To a certain extent yes. A criticism points out a flaw; a complaint is typically the personal reaction to the flaw that doesn't necessarily identify it. A critique isn't necessarily negative at all but appraises flaws and advantages.
>>691474668
No.
>>691474670
Misread, fuck me sideways.
>>691474898
THAT'S A SHAME
BYE
>>691474332
horse races are more fun imo, poker and hold em can be fun among friends though too.
>>691474886
>critiques are not requisted
this makes this a complaint
>except by artists
this is a valid critique then
>everyone still needs to here them
no
>>691475062
Again, you're making up that definition of a complaint. Stop doing that.
>>691475137
>a statement that a situation is unsatisfactory or unacceptable.
its not making it up, its matter of interpretation.
>>691474020
Go to whatsapp
I do agree that everyone needs to hear criticism
self-improvement is not possible without recognizing one's flaws, and most flaws are not obvious to oneself without outside assistance
>>691474898
I forgive you
>>691475062
I'm pretty good at casual holdem with my friends until I get bored and stop paying attention
>>691475322
The unwarranted part is fabricated. I don't disagree about that part of the definition.
>>691475403
Kaldis seems to be a safe space devotee.
>>691475552
*shurg*
fuck safe space
your implications would suggest that their opinions matter in the first pace
>>691475552
I think of it as the US constitution, there are set laws written down, but many ways to interpret it.
>>691475179
new thread
>>691476008
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