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Why cant the USA have a referendum on gun control? is it not a democracy or is it a dictatorship?
>>691281190
gun control is proven to not work.
>>691281285
really ?
where are you facts and statistics for this claim?
because countries with gun control don't have the ridicolus murderrate the usa has
>>691281190
I keep my guns locked in a safe so the don't escape and shoot someone.
Also, let's have a referendum on removing your 1st amendment right to shitpost while we're at it
>>691281627
Honduras... Extremely strict gun control, one of the highest homicide rates in the world.
>>691281627
harvard, read you nigger: http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf
>>691281643
Oh wait, nevermind...OP's not a US citizen
>>691281190
>>691281627
Maybe there's a lower gun rate but usually the case is violent crime rises. And guns still manage to stay around, cause you know, criminals don't fucking care about laws. *cough* Paris *cough*
>>691281627
Doesn't Brazil have the highest murder rate per capita? And it has very strict gun control. I also heard that they were going to try a laxer policy to see how that works.
>>691281190
OP, kindly fuck off and take your tears with you
>>691281190
>>691281190
It's a constitutional republic
>>691281190
This is evidence of a perfect democracy. The actual majority of US citizens don't want more shitty gun laws, it gets voted against, the minority cries their eyes out on camera and plot again until another "massacre" happens.
>>691281190
We can but new/more gun legislation is less favorable than the media and politicians make it out to be. Additionally the proposed laws are actually fucking retarded if you bother to get into the details. Hence the reason all 4 measures were shut down.
>>691282388
OP, did you finally realize you are a faggot
>>691281190
They can. It's call a "Constituional Amendment"
>>691281190
Yes, just like how the US people were in favor of the Patriot Act after 9/11 we should impose strict gun control in the wake of the Orland shooting. We need to be a global community with no privacy and limited means of uprising against the government.
>>691282388
You have it the other way around. Most people do want gun control and don't give a fuck. It's the diehard second amendment conspiracy theorists stopping it.
>>691281190
Why can't you stop being a giant pussy, OP?
>>691282388
except you'd never be able to prove that without a referendum because senators generally vote along party lines and voters don't
>>691283312
False. You are just a retard. Is it so hard to believe that their are people out their who blame the individual for their actions rather than the inanimate object and the availability of said object?
>>691281190
We're not a democracy.
We are a Constitutionally Representative Republic.
Besides the Second Amendment allows you to not only defend yourself and your family it grantees your other rights under the Constitution. Ones you start removing core rights other rights like say the First or the Fourth will shortly follow there after.
Look on some college campuses and their wanting to remove "hate speech" and so called "safe zones" That is an infringement of your First Amendment rights and many would happily take that from you if you even dare to disagree with them.
>>691283312
Fuck off you European socialist faggot
>>691281190
Imagine if 6 million jews had AR15's 75-80 years ago. Bitch.
There's a reason for 2A
>>691281190
Sorry if you arent a fan, but owning firearms is a fundamental right of the american people.
>>691281190
to be specific it's a pseudo republic that actually operates off oligarchy principles
>>691285007
007 truth
>>691284793
This is the stupidest argument, why do people employ it? First off, the AR15 didn't exist back then so why don't the Jews just use their awesome time travel powers to go back in time and kill Hitler as a baby?
>>691285067
Srsly
>>691285227
Is second amendment right, faggot. Go back to cambodia
America's going left, politically.
The 2nd Amendment will be repealed, or amended, within 15 years.
Guns WILL be banned. And they will be confiscated. Americans lost their right to own guns when tyranny came - and their cowardice prevented them from picking up their arms.
Well-regulated militias? No. lol and The People don't consistute a WELL REGULATED militia.
>>691285591
>And they will be confiscated
moldy labia
>>691285591
Not understanding well regulated or militia in the proper context and terms.
This old trope....
>>691285591
A well regulated militia constutes being called to arms, and led, by the governor or sheriff in most circumstances. The citizens must be armed and ready for this call
>>691281190
mfw when I read
> gum control
>>691286938
>waiting to be 'called to arms' by the govt
>to fight the govt
>a govt that could decimate the people
>with only a tiny fraction of the people revolting
tyranny's here, son. it's been here. and you were too much of a coward to pick up your arms, and protect The People.
You lost your right to own guns. Men like me will be taking them soon. From your "cold, dead hands" if need be.
>>691287263
what the fuck whta animal is that hahahahahha
>>691281190
Canada here.
>own rifles, shotguns, and handguns
>all legal
>many, many friends own guns too
>can buy guns in stores after taking a piddly 1.5 day course
>no registry for 99% of long guns and shotguns
>barely any huge shooting issues
>99% of shootings are inner city blacks who are using guns that were illegally smuggled in inside of afros
>gun control only punishes the well-behaved gun owners
>>691281190
There's one every 4 years. It's called an election. Troub is Amerifags love their guns more than their children.
>>691287329
Fair enough.
>>691285007
If you base fundamental US rights off of the constitution with the idea that they cannot change, how come I can't have Slaves?
>>691281190
>Thinks the US is a democracy, and not a federal republic.
>>691281772
Because Honduras is a shithole, thanks to the US.
Bad example faggot.
>>691281643
Tough shit. We're sick of school shootings and massacres because faggots like you want to treat guns like some toy or status symbol.
The dangerous shit needs to be banned. Deal with it. We'll let you have handguns and shotguns for hunting. That's it.
>>691287367
it looks like a bird, friendo
>>691287367
I'm no zoologist, but i believe that's called a bird
>>691287989
You must have forgotten that the people are also footing the bill.
All government is driven by and large by popular vote, so yes. We are a democracy, and the people could vote to limit or ban weapons, absolutely.
>>691288327
BINGO
You >>691281643(YOU) gun nuts attacked a PRE SCHOOL. You killed CHILDREN. Guns are done.
>>691281190
At their center, all western democracies with any relevance are fascist military entities. It's been proven in Greece and Spain. The northern states are just more affluent and thus more content with their fairytale world.
If elite hierarchies were ever gravely threatened by mass revolts in the modern age they might take great damage but in the end the military has nukes and submarines. They'll take over, not armed gangs though they may ally with them. The only way forward is through centuries of reform. Cannabis f.x is nowhere near being legalized despite the drug war being an elephant in the room.
I would laugh at all the faggots who talk about cultural marxism(those who aren't trolls anyways) if all them red anarchists and other left radicals weren't even more retarded.
The US is a corrupt democracy. So, sometimes the people's voice is heard, sometimes it's not.
Something like 94% of americans think it's reasonable to perform a background check before selling somebody a gun.
Yet, the legislative branch does nothing because the conservatives are bought and paid for by the NRA.
So, you have half of the government trying to do what the people want and the other half making excuses based on fear and ignorance because they care more about their own money and power than the people who they were elected to represent.
>>691288500
And then that law would be promptly overturned as unconstitutional... So yeah have fun with that.
>>691288705
sort of right, but statistics are BS
where did you collect your sample from? faggot
>>691287708
Good point. So, since you acknowledge that the Constitution is a living document that needs to change with the times, then you need to recognize that the definition of the weapons that the founding fathers had in mind needs to change with it. The framers may not have imagined assault weapons when they wrote the 2nd amendment, but I'm also sure that they didn't foresee the bloated welfare state that the gov't has become.
>>691288854
>gun referendum
>would be overturned
No it wouldn't.
The 2nd Amendment is obsolete because our standing army took the place of "militias." The people can defend this country by joining the military.
>>691288327
oh please. i don't need guns to murder preschoolers; I just like the way it splatters their brains all over the walls. it's like my own personal jackson pollock
>>691288500
*Representative Democracy
>>691288915
>durr I don't believe facts because they disagree with muh narrative
>>691281190
Because you would lose that referendum
>>691287989
*Representative Democracy
>>691281190
>referendum
Because it's not the general populace that wants gun control. It's only a portion. The other portion likes seeing their children get gunned down by people legally obtaining guns or illegally obtaining guns from people who shouldn't have been able to obtaine them legally
gun control wont work in america as you've already had guns forever. cant put the genie back in the bottle.
>>691288998
Doesn't matter.
Anon is trying to make it look like the People don't have the power to decide the issues in this country. We elect those who will pass legislation we want. They are not appointed, the People vote for them.
>>691289034
>facts
Prove it fact-o
still waiting on your source of bullshit
>>691289187
Fuck you faggot. 94% fucking percent of the country wants that shit.
Not going to re-invent the fucking wheel with you because you can't keep up with current events.
>>691287708
Where in the Constitution does it say i have a right to slaves?
>>691289184
you're implying that your vote matters past local elections
maybe state
are you personally counting the votes?
how do you know your vote is actually counted?
this country has become too large to ensure that everything is done fairly and legitimately
>>691289323
okay, just admit that you're pulling shit out of your ass
>>691289421
So because you suffer from paranoia the People's vote doesn't elect Presidents and Congress?
k
>>691289149
England's had guns faaaaar longer than the US. their gun ban worked. So did 'straya's. In fact, America's a new nation, comparably. Europe's had guns longer than murca. And they don't have 10's of thousands of gun deaths each year.
Guns will be controlled. And then they will be banned. Americans can't be trusted with their guns any longer. The 2nd amendment will be repealed or amended.
>>691288705
actually there are background checks like that guy in chicago that failed it and he was a news reporter
>>691289503
Admit that you aren't allowed to believe information that isn't approved on /pol/ first.
>>691287329
>implying a third of your company won't just go awol
>implying another third wont "search" houses for guns, then declare them clear
>implying the last third won't frag you if you provoke a standoff.
Armed confiscation has already lost. Go police call the parking lot, friday release formation isn't until 1600 today
>>691289323
https://www.gunowners.org/04052013congress.htm
>>691289579
>guns will be banned
Not as long as we have a powerful gun lobby and conservatives controlling Congress.
>>691289571
the popular vote has been ignored many times There was supposed election fraud THIS ELECTION. California, Bernie was supposed to win. Not that I give a shit about that fucking pinko commie bastard.
>>691281627
Chicago has some of the highest gun control in the U.S. and has one of the highest murder rates in the U.S. Don't compare other countries to the U.S. because the environments are much different.
example: niggers
>>691289727
>the NRA is super bad guize
Get outta here amy schumer
>>691289722
Oh look you found some right-wing blog that agrees with you
>>691289579
>number of shootings by country.
>shows percentages instead.
Seems like a suspiciously made up graph...
>>691286080
>moldy labia
I laughed out loud
If you didn't catch it, that was a bastardization of "molon labe" or "come and take them". Famous standoff between a small Greek city and the Persian army, where the army sent a messenger to tell the town "give up your weapons and we won't kill everyone" or something to that affect. The Greeks replied "come and take them".
>>691289834
the NRA is dogshit
suck it faggot
>>691289635
Gun control more generally, though, has seen declining support recently. In a Pew Research poll in July, 85 percent of Americans favored background checks on all private gun sales and gun show sales – a step further than the president is set to propose your still wrong
>>691288327
SHALL
>>691289775
And once the case goes through we will find the truth, until than...speculation
>>691289635
don't visit that shit hole. I can think for myself. Just cite your source and we're done here, man. Quit dodging it
>>691281190
its a republic not a democracy; the majority has to follow the supreme rule of law our ancestors agreed to: the constitution
>>691288509
0/10
>>691281190
>>691289944
NOT
Its a representative republic not a democracy actually. also that really would be begging for civil war two: electric boogaloo
>>691289944
Join the Army, faggot. No infringement. They issue you a killing machine.
>>691289843
>implying the 92% stat is totes true
Read it faggot, read it and see how the media pushes anti gun bullshit
>>691284473
American_foreign_policy.gif
>>691289882
Why?
>>691281772
Because the police in Honduras are practically powerless. That's not a gun control failure, it's a failure of the state
>>691288705
> muh evil NRA
into the trash it goes.
>>691289952
You'll only hear about it when we catch it. Assuming it doesn't occur on at least some scale beyond your scope is foolish
>>691281190
would be nice to have just to shut the anti-gun nutters up for once and for all
>>691289959
You're the one dodging it. You simply can't believe there is that much support for gun control.
Everytime I fire a round down range, the kick of the recoil, the smell of the smoke, the sound of the shot. They all make me hard as a rock. But you know what's better? Knowing that anti-gun liberals are losing their shit day in and day out over this.
Nothin gets my dick harder.
>pic sorta related, mfw
>>691288984
> literally doesn't understand how the constitution works
how's 8th grade going?
>>691290117
>not a gun control failure
>its a state failure
Isnt that like saying im not sick, my nose is?
>>691290073
>the media
let me guess: Jews, right?
>>691289727
Con-trolling
Conservatives, trolling. It all makes sense!!!
>>691290065
Am in army. I want him to buy and own a hi capacity babby killan 'salt wepaon. America.
Knee jerk reactions never produce good results.
>>691289034
its not our job to disprove the figures you pulled out your ass, kid.
>>691290200
its actaully 84% and i will source my findings
>>691290160
Sure voter fruad and suppression can happen, but i feel ol bernstein is just being sore
>>691290219
The ACLU--a conservative organization--agrees with me.
And the Supreme Court would have ruled in my favor if Republicans hadn't stacked them full of gunfags.
>>691290200
I can't believe your unsubstantiated claim. Correct.
>>691289727
kek. the NRA will fall. and conservatives are losing credibility, rapidly. the GOP is done.
You can expect another Democratic supermajority after Hillary wins in 2016. Congress and the senate will have Democratic majorities.
Donald trump? really? lol you idiots destroyed your own party, and lost this election - due in sole part to stupidity.
>>691289126
> muh chilluns
nice argument there, friend. cars are really scary too, I think we should ban them as well.
>>691290331
84% is good enough. There is strong support for gun control. Stop pretending everyone agrees with your outdated Colonial Era mindset.
>>691290238
No? Seriously man, read the article, it shows links to other studies and finds it is close to about 40%
>>691281190
It's a republic you twat
>what's the difference?
There's a huge difference
>>691289579
who is going to take them? limp-wristed faggots like you?
>>691290426
>shilling this hard
Come on anon, let's try a little bit better eh?
>>691290452
Of course some right wing blog is going to cherrypick numbers to make their obtuse position seem mainstream. Duh.
>>691281190
the first thing a dictator does is take the arms of the people so he can't be overtrown, think again on which side you are on OP
>>691285227
The ONLY way to protect other citizens is to arm themselves. Guarantee the Orlando shooting wouldn't have happened if someone was concealed carrying. Everyone needs a gun, it's an American right.
>>691290346
probs
not like he would've won anyways. Anyone who paid attention in history, or older than 30 could tell you he's going to bring about soviet-bloc-era depression on our middle and lower classes. Upper will just dip.
>>691290331
According to cnn. I read that source. It was an online poll at the bottom of an op ed emotional fluff piece.
Question was framed as somethkng along the lines of "do you think the government should do something to strengthen background checks on assault weapons? Y/n?"
PROTIP: the folks who answered no know that the existing background check is already awesome.
>>691284473
What show is that GIF from?
>>691290451
i am not this guy>>691290378
however what you are saying is to get rid of guns completely because we already have back ground checks that guy in chicago failed one and he was a reporter
>>691281190
Don't worry OP, when you get to highschool they should teach you why.
I believe the 15th Amendment is antiquated, outdated and must to be abolished.
>>691290544
that's your job, right?
>>691290451
you don't even know who you're talking to. You upset, anon?
>>691290544
And some left wing news source didnt cherry pick the 92%
>>691290615
actually i got that one from abc news
>>691290426
0/10
>>691290569
yes, because surely the people can fight against the national guard, the military police and the army
>>691290651
Had to look it up, thank you for enlightening us
>>691290569
so don't elect dictators.
Protip: Trump would turn into one despite his supposed 2nd Amendment loyalty.
>>691290209
kek
>be me
>Shooting shitbwith my ar15 assault shotgun
>Go to local gym because Chad is there
>Shoot all the Chads while they're lifting
>Mfw I'm an active shooter
>>691290580
orlando victim's parents are already saying the bouncers should've been armed.
funny how people can be anti-gun advocates until something actually happens to them or their families.
its almost as if facts and reality beat feelie weelies everytime
>>691290655
No faggot. Either post an unbiased source like AP/Reuters or STFU. Nobody wants to jizz all over your stupid biased gunhumping blog.
>>691290655
REKT
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>>691290958
You mean one parent possibly said that and it's more like what you believe.
Say it.
>>691290037
/b/E
>>691290540
>per million people
>not per capita
>murca has 300 million people
per capita, you'd lose your argument. so would the nra, fox news, Donald trump, and all gun-loving faggot pederasts.
>>691290991
Where is your unbiased source, the one you have still failed to present?
The left claims rounding up 11 million illegals for deportation is a logistical nightmare.
>Thinks rounding up 300 million + firearms iwill be a walk in the park
Good luck with that faggots
>>691288984
the second amendment helped deter a main land invasion on the US...something about there being a rifle behind every blade of grass.. :)
>>691290819
> police are evil and raciss
> military are baby killing rednecks
> lol but they would totally be on our side if we came to take your guns!
>>691291066
say what? what you want me to say because you can't handle real life?
>>691290991
>unbiased
>Reuters
Pick one nigger
>>691290804
>Source: 1979
epic faggotry
>>691281190
is it not a democracy or is it a dictatorship?
It's just not a civilized country OP ?
>>691291074
do you know what per capita means?
>>691291074
are you actually retarded? it would be the same result per capita, but with lower numbers.
do they not teach statistics in middle school nowadays?
>>691290958
hey fucky. the doorman was armed. he was off-duty police.
oh you stupid, stupid murcans.
>>691290991
>Communism is great and you can't prove otherwise! I won't accept any of yourr right-wing sources; link to Pravda or GTFO!
>>691291248
srs, is there a more modern one?
>>691291197
you seem mad, friend. maybe stop posting for a while? :^)
>>691291104
Not that anon, but you're a dipfag if you haven't heard that statistic. inb4 jew media
>>691291164
thats why japan didnt invade
>>691291351
so guns don't work? so it should be safe if people have concealed carry anyways? you lose either way
>>691291074
I'll take broken english please
>>691291351
> yuropoor
into the trash it goes.
>>691290819
How long were we at war in Vietnam and Iraq/Afghanistan? Do you think the US won those wars? Do you think that the veterans of those wars forgot everything they were trained to do when they left the service?
>>691291197
Nobody was saying the fucking bouncers should have been armed you fucking gunhumping faggot
>>691291420
haha lol I remember this meme, I've used it myself for years :^)
>>691281190
We are a Democratic Republic. We do not vote for law we vote for representatives to vote for laws.
>>691288327
So we can keep handguns, used in some 9000 murders a year, but the rifles that murder a few hundred must be banned?
Perfectly reasonable
>>691291333
nope thats AP shit
>>691291258
>>691291333
samefag drooling retard
>doesn't know what per capita means
>thinks per million = per capita
>owns guns
>retards like this... own guns. legally.
It's time to ban them.
>>691291358
Blacks commit more crimes because of white racism, faggot
you knew that
"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed."
For one, this isnt about a Tyranical government overthrow. Isoroku Yamamoto, a fleet admiral for Japan in WW2 said that Japan could never invade the United State's mainland because "there would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."
Besides, we can not even get a handle on out suspect terror list. The terror watch list itself has over 1000000 people. We only have 35,000 FBI agents. If we dedicated all of our efforts into 76 people per 2 FBI agents, we still wouldnt be able to stop them all from having guns. Much less if you banned guns and made 225,000,000+ citizens criminals for owning guns.
>>691291568
Hey if you want to argue to take handguns away too, go ahead. I'm throwing you faggots a bone.
>>691291358
DAMN THOSE BLACK TERRORIST. ALWAYS SHOOTING UP SCHOOLS AND STUFF
>>691291351
No it wasnt the doorman
>Source clickorlando
See how an armed off duty cop, slowed the rampage?
>>691291428
Than show the study it can from
;)
>>691281190
You're right, it's not a democracy, it's a republic.
>>691291164
No it didn't. The US Army has defended this soil for over 200 years.
There are no "militias" in the US.
The 2nd Amendment is obsolete. So is the 3rd Amendment, too.
Are you faggots going to take up arms if the US Army claims Eminent Domain?
So many fucking wannabe armchair survivalist dipshits here.
So many.
>>691291777
Too busy shooting Ray Ray on the corner in shitholes like Chicago to go to school.
>>691291579
The fact that you're comparing Timothy McVeigh to gun owners is appropriate. You just rekt your own argument more effectively and efficiently than any liberal could.
>>691287329
You look terribly constipated in pic
>>691291712
hmm that is a significant out lyer there
>>691291216
Reuters is unbiased you dipfuck. It is the newsfeed used by every media outlet in the country.
Stupid fucking mommy's basement warriors.
>>691291777
You were saying?
>>691291495
This.
A thousand times this.
An insurgency in america would be over before it started, with the insurgency winning.
Thats why its never going to be an outright ban, its going to be death by a thousand cuts.
>"nobody neeeeds semi auto"
>"nobody neeeds an internal 3 round mag in a bolt gun"
>"nobody neeeeds anything other than a break action 12 gauge"
>>691291899
>still being a massive faggot about this
rain is wet, too
mad?
>>691291938
>ignoring nip history on a nip lovers site
>>691290095
Sauce on GIF?
>>691292031
>rueters
>used by every news source
Kek, that is the AP jackass. They dont tech reuters style in J school
ITT: soccer moms
>>691292031
So widespread use = unbiased? So Goebbels was "unbiased" during '30s Germany?
>>691291938
fortunately people in the US Army are actually human beings who are also citizens with civilian families and friends so its not even going to be their entirety civies need to fight in case of whatever people expect might happen.
people seem to think that just because its [CURRENT YEAR] nothing can possibly go wrong with the government or the world and everything will be a peachy utopia for an eternity now.
>>691292139
;) just source it lol. Show me the unbiased study mane
>>691288327
>We'll let you have
>Said the man without a gun, to a man with one
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Come and get them, faggot, I'll be waiting. I'm sure it'll work out great for you.
>>691291869
that's fantastic.
hopefully these literal retards >>691291258 and >>691291333 read that. because they think 'per 100000' equals 'per capita'.
That's the intellect we're dealing with, in regards to gun owners. They live in the Midwest, and the south. They don't earn more than 50K (many of them are on red state welfare), and they're woefully undereducated.
>>691292257
>>691290371
the ACLU is super conservative.
>>691292210
Fuck you. Either Reuters or AP. Acceptable sources
Unacceptable: Heritage Foundation, NRA, Breitfart, WND, NRO, Fox, Townhall-- any of that fucking shit faggot goddammit. EVER.
>>691292257
I love this, it's hilarious.
>You gun owners are paranoid nuts, the US Gov would never become tyrannical!
I see, tell me what you think of Trump
>OMG he's literally the next hitler
>>691292370
>shoves blade of grass up anon's ass
These gun-toting fagets are going to be rioting when their god Trump loses in November.
I can't wait.
>>691291624
I want to prove to you that you're wrong. I just don't care enough, anymore. Come and take them retard. If you bring more than two guys, I'll just say I lost them in a boating accident. Welcome to America, faggot
>>691292409
works great if you have an army of tireless robots who have no need of logistical support in a country the size of the US. even then not really.
>>691292369
>because they think 'per 100000' equals 'per capita'
Not the guy you replied to, in fact I haven't even looked at this thread, but what exactly does "per capita" mean if not "events per person"?
>>691292369
Um, look at which color is which, on that graph. You may be confused. That graph shows that the US, with a staggering gun ownership rate, has a much lower gun death rate than many countries with "no guns at all."
>>691292409
wow its so easy. why haven't we destroyed the taliban or isis yet?
>>691292902
Did you read the pic?
>>691292802
you're clearly the idiot who thinks that "events per 100000" means "events per person".
If you don't understand the difference - you're probably in a red state.
or you're 14.
>>691292655
In case you've not noticed, the evil white man doesn't riot.
>>691292425
Which is why theey're rainbow-flag-waving pro-choicers whose stated position on the 2A is "it'sthe only thing in the bill of rights that actually means a collective right not reserved for the people, and Heller v MacDonald was decided wrong," huh?
mfw liberal cucks that own no guns think they can just remove guns from the people who do and fix all their problems
All of you faggots that want to rid this country of the horrible plague of guns should organize yourselves into 8 person teams and start going door to door demanding that the occupants turn over their firearms.
Dont wait for our do nothing legislators, don't try and get the Law Enforcement Agencies to help (because they too own firearms and can't be trusted) just organize and start the confiscation.
Surely if 80-90% of the population is in favor of it they should easily be able to round up 300 million + guns.
You can print up posters and shirts and make up awesome chants to shame gun owners into turning over their legally owned private property. Hell I'll bet if you chant hard enough you might even get some of them to trade in their cars for hybrids.
Stop talking about it and just do it.
Go get those evil guns you mighty warriors.
>>691292867
lel right, we're only behind GAZA in gun deaths. Jesus Christ on Crutches, are you fucking retarded?
The countries preceding the US on that list are literally all 3rd world shitholes. You (extremely, extremely stupid) gun nuts have turned the modern US into a 3rd world shithole.
>>691292655
>I want millions of armed Americans to get angry and riot
>Da gubment will keep me safe, I dun need no arms
>>691293257
It will be a public/privately funded massive gun buyback program.
And the remainder, which would be less than a million people, could then be properly contained.
>>691293425
ha thats a joke in of its self right there
>>691281190
It's an oligarchy disguised as a representative democracy. The politicians put on a show of representing the people and enacting their will and then they vote however the rich tell them to.
The rich apparently want us to be able to keep shooting each other.
>>691293041
I'm really not, I'm just confused. Please tell me, what's the difference between "per 100,000" and "per person" other than the scale?
>>691293568
It's actually math. Out of that million gun owners left after all the guns are bought back, we could talk half of those individuals into giving up their guns, which leaves just a little less than 500,000 and there's no way they would all be in one place.
>>691293693
solves overpopulation
less poories to look at
>>691293568
'itself' is one word. why are gun owners typically such fuckwits? are most of them dropouts? or is this the level of education in the Midwest/south?
>>691293817
Except without poories the rich would have to do their own work, so no
>>691293784
don't try to talk with that anon, they ignore you and call you names while simultaneously showing how good they are at acting foolish
they won't help you
>>691293425
>implying the government would be able to offer fair market value
>implying guys that dropped a grand + on a firearm will hand them in for a $200 gift card to Best Buy or Walmart
>implying that one million pissed off gunners who more than likely are vets will be contained
We are not Austrailia, we aren't SUBJECTS of the Crown. We are CITIZENS of the United States that the last time some pompous fuck said "Hand them over" we started shooting fuckers in the face.
>>691293897
robots, fool
what year is it? shit
>>691281627
Switzerland almost everyone has guns..almost no crime almost no gun deaths... Where is YOUR facts to back up your nit wit claim?
>>691281190
Because the majority of Americans don't want any more of their rights taken away while getting a bandage on a snake bite solution
>>691293790
how would you convince gun owners to sell their guns if its privately funded. there wouldnt be a law just say "hey ill buy your guns so they can be destroyed" yea that'll work
>>691293878
reading: the manufacturer's name on the headstock
writing: the check to buy the guns
arithmetic: knowing how many rounds you have
How about we end the stupid fucking drug war and legalize tax and regulate drugs like we did with alcohol so the niggers fighting over drug selling turf stop driving up our gun violence statistics. We all know that's all it is.
>>691293817
If they really cared about overpopulation, they'd be all about sex education and free access to contraceptives and abortion. The truth is all these mass shootings do not make a fucking dent in the population, but it does make people afraid to go outside and talk to each other about how badly they're getting fucked by the people that are supposed to represent them.
>>691294016
Then you'd get a tax break.
>>691281190
HUEHUEHUE
JUST GET OFF THE PLATFORM!
SMH damn nigguh just like walk the fuck off! Just like close dem eyes nigga!
DAT sOME WHITEMAN SHEIIIT
>>691294026
You'd have to have poor people working on the robots. The rich wouldn't be touching that shit.
>>691294116
people afraid = people at war
people at war makes a fucking dent
we're at like step 4 of 6 in a cyclical pattern of death
>>691281627
look at any country with lax gun control, like sweden and switzerland. then look at countries with strict gun control, like some south american countries. the crime is high in those with gun control.
however, i think the problem isnt so much the guns, but niggers.
>>691289800
Massachusetts has some of the strictest gun control and some of the least gun crime. The only problem is criminals are able to bring guns in from surrounding states. If that weren't the case MA would be gun death free pretty much.
>>691294053
Money is convincing. And if it were a private partnership, they could offer more than the fair market value as incentive.
The goal is to give up guns without bloodshed. No, it isn't going to come cheap.
>>691294330
>niggers
so you're the problem?
>>691293878
sorry i cant spell worth shit never have been able to. but be i got too much of that edumaction in me brains to figure out that you+cock=faget
>>691294250
some of the rich would undoubtedly enjoy tinkering
if only to say look what I have that you don't
>>691281627
Why do we even indulge in discussion with this obvious bait?
>>691293817
virtually the entire populace in the US are poor. 1% controls 99.998% of America's wealth.
it's sad - people earning 100K per year think they're 'rich'.
you are the poor. the slaves. the peasants.
>>691288705
The Orlando shooter passed all of these important background checks... didn't seem to matter cause he was a licensed carry. If some of the victims had their own guns, maybe there would be less victims...
>>691293943
I figured that, but I want to try. I think most people can be reasoned with.
>>691293041
>you're clearly the idiot who thinks that "events per 100000" means "events per person".
>If you don't understand the difference - you're probably in a red state.
The difference is that if there are (let's say) 5,000 events and a population of 1 million, the number per 100,000 would be 5,000/10 or 500 per 100,000, while the number per person would be 5,000/1,000,000 or .005 per person.
They're different scales, but they still represent the same data in the similar ways.
Am I wrong about any of that?
>>691294422
yeah but that's after a bunch of mexicans set it all up to make it look like he's the one doing the tinkering
>>691294049
Switzerland also has almost no niggers. America, where the majority of gun crime is committed by niggers, has large amounts of gun crime.
Solution. Ban niggers.
>>691294412
don't respond to me, downy.
you're blocked, and I'm on 4Chan Plus. Go fuck yourself, you drooling ruhtaard.
>>691294347
well what about the guns from inheritance? i have guns from my grandfather and father i may not use them but they are still quiet important to me
>>691294456
Because face it, it really is time to consider ridding our society of some of the more dangerous aspects, like unregulated civilian use of firearms
>>691294460
>wageslaves
>>691294584
It's possible you could buy a special permit for that. But such exemptions would come at a tremendous cost. You could also disable the weapon and keep it as a collector's piece, as long as it's not possible to reintegrate it into a killing machine.
>>691294576
wow quite original. didnt know you were still sucking on your moms tit
>>691288984
Ok fuckwit... read this slowly so you might understand...
The 2nd amendment isn't about protecting your country from invaders. It isn't about "Muh Guns" and my right to defend my property...
The 2nd amendment was written to provide relief from a government run mad with power. It was written so the PEOPLE could reclaim their government if the need ever arose.
Joining the ARMY which is the force arm of that government will not provide you the same rights... Learn a little about your country before you completely fuck yourself over.
>>691294512
they don't represent the same data.
they're not similar.
they're completely different modes of determining the outcome. per capita's the honest way. 'per 100,000' (or a determined number therein) is always biased.
That you don't realize that, is disturbing. You're not intelligent enough to own a gun.
>>691294347
Where is the government going to get the money? Just print more, right?
>>691294638
HAH
>>691294462
No fucking shit he passed all these background checks and legally bought the gun, doesn't that show you how fucking lax our gun laws are? The fact that a background check can come back with the thumbs up on someone that was on the FBIs terrorist watch list? If someone isn't allowed to fly on a passenger plane, they shouldn't be able to buy a gun legally like a law abiding citizen
>>691294545
lol
what about spontaneous genesis? Perhaps a fleet of working robots falls from the sky? Perhaps the last 500 poories make robots and then they die?
>>691294638
>time to rid of ourselves of scary stuff like knives, guns, mace, nerd guns, cars and everything 2 spooky for me.
Found the faggot britbong. Go suck the queens dick
>>691294793
see then we are getting into more of an issue how could you control if it was disabled. it doesnt take a rocket scientist to put it back together
>>691294842
>The 2nd amendment was written to provide relief from a government run mad with power.
It doesn't say anything about that in there, faggot.
The 2nd Amendment is a statement that the people have the right to bear arms if the country is attacked. Well guess what? We have a military to do that now. The military is the People.
>>691294867
Public/private partnership. That means virtually unlimited funding.
>>691294902
he was taken off in 2014
>>691294957
I'd rather be taken over by an army of Jennifer Lawrence robots myself.
>>691294970
I'll smash your fayce.
>>691285591
The right and people on the left with funtioning brains will start hitting back here soon. The majority aren't progressives they are conservative. The only reason anyone thinks they are progressive is because the media and education systems have been taken over. Soon the people will start a new revolution against the cancer in the western world. No idea where it will lead but the left will never be a majority in America.
>>691294988
Look, I'm trying to work with you people. It's either these concessions or the Army comes marching into town door to door. Surely we're reasonable men and can work out an arrangement beneficial to all parties.
>>691281190
USA is an oligarchy, not a democracy.
>>691288327
Funny you say that because handguns account for 99% of gun deaths in america.
Assuming that banning a tool would actually stop the use of that tool, would you rather
A: Ban handguns to stop 99% of gun related deaths?
Or
B: Ban rifles to stop 1% of gun related deaths?
>>691294842
your entire essay is subjective, biased, and an opinion 'puff' piece.
in other words - you're a shill with absolutely no credibility.
go to a trump rally faget, gtfo of my /b/.
>>691289881
Μολών Λαβέ
>>691294863
but... but they do represent the same data
>not even arguing about the quality of samples used
^that was your only point and you missed it, instead acting retarded and calling others names
>>691295338
It wouldn't be an oligarchy if people like you voted instead of thinking your vote doesn't count.
>>691290913
^ This
>>691294406
yep, im a nigger.
>>691287606
No Americans care about their children more than your hurt butt fixed that for you
>>691295288
im just pointing out issues with your plans. which is why we havent had a good gun control bill yet. there are so many laws already and people still find loop holes i mean come on. what we would need to do is overhaul the entire gun system AND, now this is important, our mental health issues in the united states. once that is under control i think things will be alot better
>>691295394
Are you ESL? This may be a case of 'loss of translation'. I likely speak your native language, and can explain it to you thus. What language is your PRIMARY language?
A ban on assault weapons is very reasonable. There is no reason for civilians to have murder devices that can kill dozens of people in a very very short amount of time. I'm all for hunting rifles and handguns being legal and all that but with instant background checks. No one can deny this is reasonable.
>>691295066
Who would the private contributors be?
More importantly, how much per firearm are you planning on reimbursing people to willingly give up privately held property?
>>691294902
it has nothing to do with how lax the gun laws are. its all how shitty the FBI is. theyre a horrible organization that doesnt act on evidence they have.
flying on a plane isnt protected in the bill of rights. however, gun ownership is. so until someone is given their proper due process, they cant be denied their rights to own a gun.
>>691294863
>per capita's the honest way. 'per 100,000' (or a determined number therein) is always biased.
>per 100,000 is biased
But... how?
Could you please explain to me why it's biased?
>>691295568
Quit shooting other niggers. Gun problem solved.
>>691288327
Yeah ban dangerous things
>>691292369
>I Can't Read a Simple Graph: The Post
that big scary red line that you thought was representing the same data differently, was not what you thought
Red line is gun ownership per capita (per person you stupid fuckwit)
Not homicides per capita
again
You're the literal retard here
>>691294992
"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
Thomas Jefferson
>>691295695
however the definition of assault weapon is extremely broad it would have to be narrowed to get it under check. like i was always under the impression that my sks, which i inherited, was an assault weapon but it isnt. its a carbine see the issue here?
>>691295695
Why who cares if you have guns just don't give them to the Muslims. And if we don't have assault rifles how can we stand up with our little hand guns and bolt action rifles. You're as unreasonable as it gets.
>>691288327
You sound more fascist then the gun enthusiast dude...like Jesus how old are you?
>>691295863
Please don't respond to me again.
>>691289579
Gr8 b8 m8
>>691295873
thats it. thats all that needs to happen.
not being sarcastic.
>>691281190
No one wants gun control other than whiney pussies who dont like freedom. We dont need or want gun control.
>>691291682
He really didn't make that quote... it's a good quote and he was credited with saying it, but he really didn't make it.
>>691295681
oh.
oh my god why have you created an individual as dense as this? Is it to test me? I have failed you
smite me that I may not know your true wrath any longer
>>691281627
Other countries can't be comparable to the US due to history, demographic and cultural differences. What works in one place might not work in another. If you remove all the inner city ( hugh gun control) and homocides from the US murder rate, it's very low.
>>691295956
I responded to you here: >>691293263
Don't respond to me again, you're blocked.
>>691288327
Banning them is is retarded anon. Better background checks and storage laws, as well as ensuring that certain people don't get guns is a better solution than a ban.
