Trump or Hillary?
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Trump or Hillary?
bernie.
>>691074996
This guy gets it
>>691074996
You will never get free college and your candidate got his rally taken over by BLM niggers. You are a cuck.
>>691074819
They are both gonna ruin the country in one way or another, so honestly who fucking cares
>>691074819
Bernie, but I'll settle for Hillary.
Denmarkfag here. Trump. A woman running a country? We tried that. It failed miserably. Women can't be the boss of shit. It's not in their genes
trump
>>691075681
>retard confirmed
I'm a Berniefag and clearly you are not. Every LOYAL Berniefag is taking the revenge on Hillary--she literally stole the primary from him and if you don't know this, you shouldn't be voting at all.
If you vote for Hillary, you are voting for Wall Street. It's that simple.
>>691076011
Deutchfag here. I agree.
Nothing against women, but literally every time a woman tries to run a county, it is completely fucked up and you spend a decade trying to dig yourself out of all the messes. Women simply are not designed to be leaders and we all know this. There's also that "time of the month" thing where whatever faculties they did have go away and get replaced by a nutjob for a week--especially for women Hillary's age.
There's really no choice but Trump when you think about it and if you care about what is right for your country, but no doubt you dumb Amerifags will fuck that up too and vote a woman into a role that no woman was ever designed for to begin with. Think about that simply reality and whether or not any woman actually has the skills, demeanor, leadership qualities, emotional hormone haywire, spiteful, catty, absurdities. Look at any woman you've ever dated and imagine her running your life completely and everyone elses. No one knows such a woman that would be acceptable because they just aren't built for that job and it's been proven over here throughout Europe.
>>691076376
>>691075681
Didn't the results come in saying that Bernie won Califorina now?
Also some dem delegate just got arrested for corruption charges too
>>691074819
Vote for TRUMP
I'm perfectly fine with a woman running a country but not THAT woman. She's batshit crazy and a feminazi. Not that Trump is any better btw
>>691074819
Bernie motherfucker. Hillary is useless because she's pandering and Trump is the fucking Anti-Christ.
NEITHER!
>>691077179
There are not words for your level or retardation.
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>>691077851
Calm down
Whoever you vote for you'll still stockpile guns cause " tyranny".
Stupid fags vote for a government that they think want to eliminate them or some shit.
Well I am a Wall Street Banker so guess who I am voting!
>>691077851
Calm ze Calamity that is ur Mamaries.
>>691078218
How to get people to rage at you on the internet:
1. Make an inflammatory statement
2. Wait a while
3. ????
4. Profit
>>691077851
How to calm down a Shillaryfag
1. You can't
And you're done.
>>691076882
Women have been village leaders since time began,bro. Dudes do war, women do social. Kinda debatable that we're in such an all-encompassing war that the generals can't handle it.
And Hillary's way past menopause. It's fine if you like Trump, whatever floats your boat, but all the points you listed are moot.
While the June 12 massacre at an Orlando gay nightclub marked the deadliest terror attack on U.S. soil since 2001, the data shows America has been facing a steady stream of plots. For the period September 2001 through 2014, data shows the U.S. successfully prosecuted 580 individuals for terrorism and terror-related cases. Further, since early 2014, at least 131 individuals were identified as being implicated in terror.
Across both those groups, the senators reported that at least 40 people initially admitted to the U.S. as refugees later were convicted or implicated in terror cases.
Among the 580 convicted, they said, at least 380 were foreign-born. The top countries of origin were Pakistan, Lebanon and Somalia, as well as the Palestinian territories.
>>691074819
Why not both?
Neither, I'm not a retard.
>>691074996
>>691075068
>>691075681
>>691076376
>>691077759
When did this board get filled with cucks?
>>691074819
how about your mom idiot
>>691079387
We're tired of being lied to by democrats. Democrats can't even NAME the cause of the biggest issue of our time. The thing that causes so much death and destruction.
Every time president obama talks about terrorism, it becomes more and more galling. Like "terrorism" is some nameless faceless organization that we can go after.
Hillary. Supported her from the start.
>>691079622
Waaaaaaaaaaaay before it got filled with Autistic little fucks like you, that's for fucking sure.
>>691079728
If that fucking cunt ever spoke a true word outta her mouth it was because her puppets didn't tell her what she should have said
>>691079781
Not an argument. Retake an economics course or kindly go back to Tumblr
Gary Johnson for POTUS
>>691079505
Good man.
The whole US electoral system makes so many votes basically pointless. I'm from OK and the only candidate that I would even consider supporting is Bernie, there aint no way we're going to get blue so if I vote Libertarian along with Republicans that feel repulsion towards Trump (no small number), then it's at least making a statement.
>>691079882
You'll be calling her President Clinton come November. Does that upset you friend?
>>691074819
While I don't think Trump knows how to run a fucking country or how the first thing about politics besides "say what they want to hear", we've had men running our country forever and I'm not ready for a cunt to start.
>>691079622
Bernie fans would follow the neckbeard into the van marked "free candy". The thing that astounds me is how popular the socialist movement goes, without ever considering the fact that Bernie is a communist. He doesn't make any apologies for it. His website spells it out plainly for all to see.
Despite the mountains of evidence that shows socialism is the best way to ruin your country, and how democrat run cities in the US are always the poorest - Bernie fans are convinced that rich people didn't earn their way, and they don't pay taxes.
It's another example of how even large numbers of people can be very stupid.
1. People that believe in socialism
2. People that believe in Islam
3. People that believe in christianity
All it takes is a little research to find out what is what, and not taking your politician's word for it.
>>691074819
>>691074819
Watch this OP.
To every Hillary supporter: get rekt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGtkpA7luUE
>>Goldwater was against civil rights act 1963.
>>691074819
Ugh fucking neither. Would rather elect a jar full of spunk than one of these ass clowns
>>691080101
No...I'll be placing bets on the date someone assassinates her
I'll also be placing bets on the day the war starts
I say May 18th 2017 or 2018
>>691080344
There is no reason to be upset. Hillary will be an exceptional president.
You'll see.
At least she lies less than BUILD WALL
>>691079947
> Not an argument. Retake an economics course or kindly go back to Tumblr.
wasn't aware that the line
>When did this board get filled with cucks?
Was a valid fucking argument. Kindly go take a English and Debate course at the High School level or get the fuck off my /b/.
>>691080567
>>691080101
>>691079728
I can't tell if this is bait. Care to explain which of her policies you support exactly?
>>691080615
Still not an argument. How does it feel knowing that your candidate of choice doesn't understand fundamental economic laws?
Bernie or just vote threed party sounds better
>>691074819
For President of the United States of America? Neither would be good.
>>691080680
Her gun control policy is a no brainier.
She's on spot on women's issues.
Her views on crime and prison reform are great.
Also, education.
Environment and clean energy.
Want to actually /help/ refugees
Wants to actually /help/ the middle east
Her policies aren't any major thing, but they are perfectly rational and jive with me.
#Hillary2016
read this http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Hillary_Clinton.htm
>>691074819
KANYE WEST 2016 THE ONLY TRUE LEADER
>>691080101
Not him but, while it doesn't upset me, it does make me a little disappointed.
>>691080160
He's not a communist. Jesus Christ...
Look, you're not rich enough to be against socialism. Trust me, you are not. If there is huge wealth inequality, then quality of your life decreases. Social services decrease because there is less money to help more of those in need, crime increases, drug abuse increases, etc etc. The "rich", I'm talking about the actually rich people, don't pay their share of what it costs to have a healthy society. The amount of their income that they keep is grossly more than what the average person has to live on.
But props for saying that religion is stupid.
>>691080780
I'm not sure I'm not votin. For Donald Trump
>>691080259
LMAO. how have i NEVER see this?
>>691081061
>jive
Ok fucking nigger
>>691081071
Even if all of that was true (not him by the way) why the fuck do you feel entitled to the rich persons money? It's theirs, not yours.
>>691081071
Love your argument. Good to see someone on /b/ with some cohesive sense. i fear you'll never change the minds of some of these twats though. They're too afraid that they will be come. Multi billionaires I swear conservative poor people don't act poor. The just a toy like temporarily embarrassed rich people
>>691081395
there is no reason to be upset. My people (Democrats) will take control. We will treat you racistfags well. Do not fear us.
>>691080780
Complete ignorance. Classy. I don't need to make an argument, as the honest truth is that all you're doing is sitting there baiting me to get angry. Which honestly you can't, I've been here a long time, and it's going to take waaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy more then that to get my rage processors even close to spinning up. The reason why you continuously respond with
>Not an argument
baffles me, since from what I have seen so far your responses are little more then poorly thought out Ad Hominems against me and Bernie. I remember a time when trolls were actually skilled and put work into their responses to arguments, or were at least creative or random circa Deadpool. Now you're just a bunch of inbred idiots throwing fallacies at one another like their Candy. Disgraceful.
>>691081409
It's not an entitlement thing it's a ducking society thing. Those who benefit most from society should invest enough in it to ensure its longevity. It's not free fucking tv's and shit it's basic healthcare an education. And when you learn about the multitude of ways the super rich have crafts to shave maximum profits while paying nearly nothing in taxes you begin to understand what Bernie means by a "rigged system" he
>>691081560
I agree with you, but you reek of reddit, dude. Sorry
>>691081071
>The "rich", I'm talking about the actually rich people, don't pay their share of what it costs to have a healthy society
The progressive tax system ensures that the wealthy pay a larger percentage than everyone else. This "they don't pay their fair share" is a bunch of Bernie rhetoric for those who think they're entitled to someone else's income.
>The amount of their income that they keep is grossly more than what the average person has to live on.
So your solution is to steal their money without consent? How do you even know what the average person needs to live on? This is the problem with entitled millennials like you. You have no skills and no ambition, so you force those that are actually successful to carry you
>>691074819
chillary
>>691081061
Whoa, "help the middle east"? Nah. Generally, she's alright and has a decent position on policies. She'd be a ... fine (I hope) prez. But her hawk rating is through the roof. That's a big one for me, between her inauthenticity and her hawkishness, I'm likely to just vote Libertarian as a protest/strategic vote (Red State). The distrust I have for her is irrational so I can't put too much emphasis on it, but the warmongering I can.
>>691074996
Fuck you, fucking socialist.
>>691081881
Trump lies waaaaay more than Hillary. Look it up.
>>691074819
>>691081560
Wow you really wrote a lot without really saying anything.
Here's a good place to start learning about some economics:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_demand
>>691081741
Well honestly, I've never been to Reddit, so perhaps you could inform me of how exactly I seem like I'm from a source of Cancer?
>>691079728
dumbass mufuka
>>691081409
Here's a good way to process it.
Let's use Walmart as an example because they're one of the worst perpetrators of the shit economy we have today.
Nearly all of the products made in Walmart are made overseas where there are next to no labor laws and wages are pennies on the dollar. The way the Walmart business model works is to make costs nearly toxically low by doing this they control the local markets and slowly dry up the small businesses in whatever area they're in they then take all the workers for that area and ensure they offer them as little as possible in the way of wages and health benefits. Then by not buying American products they drive out production in America in exchange for dastardly cheap over seas labor. They allow the us government to pick up the tab for foodstamps and Medicare because they don't pay their employees jack shit while they take in record profits. They derive nearly all they're fiscal success from the American consumer while simultaneously investing NOTHING back into the economy that have them this wealth. And they're not even the worst culprits of this. It's sad really
>>691074819
Neither.
>implying it's an ultimatum
two bullets, a trained hitman, and a 50.cal
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>>691074819
www.voteanonymous2016.com
>>691082289
This image makes no sense.
Why should we care if they have been governor before when they're running for president? If anything, Clinton has eight years of experience with that.
Trump. Fuck Hillary.
>>691082476
>>691081409
>>691081799
No, /I/ don't want their money! I'm really comfortable with what income I earn...
>>691081684
Thank you.
I want more money in health. I want more cops, and better trained cops, better equipped cops. I want BETTER FUCKING EDUCATION for kids. I want society to be great for everyone, not just the people that make their money off giving their employees slave wages in Bangladeshi sweat shops.
We've got a society. We can make it better. There should be an understanding that if you want to be a part of it, you've gotta pay your share of taxes. Yes, it's stealing but it's also stealing to stay in the society if you're not paying. Tax dodgers are as bad as welfare queens.
>>691082091
You want an argument against your point, okay, I'll give you what you want, only this once, since you may be able to gleam some form of enlightenment.
Lets start by bringing up the idea of free Colleges, shall we. Lets say that anyone could attend a college, pursue their dreams and try to make something of themselves without the risk, nigh guarantee, of high tuition's and crippling student debt. This would lead to an influx of people seeking a higher education in America, not only increasing the intelligence the average citizen uses in daily life, but creating a more robust and smarter job pool overall. This would lead to the revitalization of America and possibly another revolution in terms of industry since more people would have the know how on a basic level to start their own businesses. This would lead to the possibility of more things being created, made and sold in America, basically "Make America Great again".
I await your response.
>>691081061
check out hillary on tape saying she supports goldwater.. the man against civil rights act 1963.. she has such GREAT views on equality and minorities right?
she lies about EVERYTHING.. theres videos on youtube called hillary lying compilation that goes on for fucking 10 minutes straight and is being investigated by the fbi.. she plays the idiots that dont dig enough and really i think there are millions of people who are victimized by mass media on tv and internet.. which is totally being controlled by our government.
did you know the government ACTUALLY pays people to go to online forums just like this to promote a certain dialogue and to kind of stomp out "un-popular" ideas?
The government contracts people to do this and a lot of it is run from the cia.. if you dont believe me just check snowdens leaks or just type snowden interview on youtube and you'll see
I think that the narrative of trump being a racist hitler fuck, sexist, bigot faggot is false. big time.
its working really well because in fact hillary is on tape saying she supports a person known to be publicly openly racist
shes also on tape saying shes close to senator byrd..and hes a publicly known kkk grandwizard of 30 years who is a senator from georgia or some shit..
>>691082209
>They're one of the worst perpetrators of the shit economy we have today
citation needed
>slowly dry up the small businesses in whatever area they're in
Nobody is forcing anyone to shop at Walmart. Would you prefer to pay more for goods? Then go shop at local businesses. I can't take you people seriously when you actually complain about prices being too low.
>Ensure they offer them as little as possible in the way of wages and health benefits
Of course their wages are low, they have no skills. You need no education to stock shelves or work a cash register, and forcing employers to give hire wages always leads to unemployment.
>investing NOTHING back into the economy that have them this wealth
You do realize that wealthy people invest ALL THE TIME, right? That's how you stay wealthy. Capital good investment is the #1 reason why our standard of living is so high compared to a century ago. Technology is invested in, which lowers input costs for businesses, which decreases prices of goods relative to wage rates.
>>691081975
Well, yeah. Trump isn't even an option. It's absurd that he's even on the ballot paper other than a demonstration of democracy.
duh
But there is no way my state is gonna turn blue. There's no fucking way. But, if they had any sense, the conservatives that either have a moral compass or some vague sense of not-retardation might vote enough for Libertarians to be notable.
>>691082366
>all you need in life
>food
>housing
>clothing
>drugs
Something doesn't seem right here...
>>691081061
>Wants to actually /help/ the middle east
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Resolution#United_States_Senate
We have to deal with ISIS because of the shortsightedness of Clinton and others in the senate when they approved the war in Iraq.
>>691083743
>We have to deal with ISIS because of the shortsightedness of Clinton and others in the senate when they approved the war in Iraq.
>Clinton
>approved war in iraq.
Get the fuck off /b/
>>691083408
>>691083408
get rekt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGtkpA7luUE
>>691083142
This has been debunked over and over again. High tuition is caused by constant loan lending by the government. Schools and Universities respond to these guaranteed loans by raising tuition rates.
Making college "free" doesn't make these tuition rates disappear. The burden will still be taken on by taxpayers, and tuition rates will continue to rise, while the quality of education will decrease.
And as far as people "pursuing their dreams", free education always leads to irresponsibility. This is the reason why liberal arts majors completely outnumber STEM majors. If you are investing in your own education, you'll make better choices for study. Nobody in their right mind would pay for a women's studies degree out of pocket because it would be a terrible investment. Keeping eduction completely private will decrease tuition rates while still keeping people accountable for their own future - which will lead to better choices
>>691076011
but Hillary isn't a women
>>691084019
Just in case you aren't trolling.
>>691084330
Not trolling, I thought you were 1. Retarded or 2. a Troll yourself, an assumption not ridiculous to make on /b/. I assumed you were talking about her husband, William Clinton, not Hillary herself, my deepest apologies, it seems the fault for such statement lies with me.
>>691074819
God Emperor Trump
>>691084134
>free education always leads to irresponsibility
By this logic, children should take out a loan to go to kindergarten.
>>691084585
>this stupid of a comparison
>being this retarded
>>691080988
This.
There wasn't a single candidate on ether side that was worth a fuck.
>>691084585
>children should take out a loan to go to kindergarten.
You're attacking a straw man - obviously the child's parents are responsible for financing their eduction. And considering the insanely low graduation rates in public school across the US, I'd say the students are pretty fucking irresponsible.
>>691083266
>citation needed
I don't know his sources, but there are a few pieces out there on the Walton family and their business model. Doesn't seem like a far-fetched idea even without sources.
>Nobody is forcing anyone to shop at Walmart. Would you prefer to pay more for goods? Then go shop at local businesses. I can't take you people seriously when you actually complain about prices being too low.
I personally do most of the time, or make it myself. Shoes for kids are a bit difficult to do local because /making shoes/ and kids grow really fast, but the community can share the cost of shoes for all its children half the time. But poor, uneducated, unskilled people can't do what I do, and the local producers need a reasonably big market. I made a leather school bag in 20 hours, but if I made them as a career, it would reduce that time cost a great deal, refine the design, and so on. With a decrease in the local suppliers, it becomes harder to maintain a living on the local market, and you're reduced to hobbies providing a little extra cash instead of a robust local market, which is fine, as long as you've got a decent wage and job elsewhere.
>Of course their wages are low, they have no skills. You need no education to stock shelves or work a cash register, and forcing employers to give hire wages always leads to unemployment.
Low wages lead to increased crime. What's your point?
>You do realize that wealthy people invest ALL THE TIME, right? That's how you stay wealthy. Capital good investment is the #1 reason why our standard of living is so high compared to a century ago. Technology is invested in, which lowers input costs for businesses, which decreases prices of goods relative to wage rates.
He's talking about the social investment.
>>691082302
If only.
I choose a redo
TRUMP
>>691082302
>50. Cal
Kek too much videogames
>>691084585
>>691084134
Reckon both of you make good points. I personally don't trust the free market to do "the best thing" for society instead of profits, and having education with some level of social goal would be my preference.
But if there is any tuition fee, then some people will be unable to afford it. It seems like the best course of action would be to make STEM courses tuition free.
Hillary is a disgrace.
Bernie. Failing that, I'll go for Trump. He's at least willing to negotiate with us.
>>691084134
While I see the point to such arguments, it seems the difference is in our outlook on life, since data cannot be collected from a source that does not truly exist yet (At least among our native population), it cannot be proven that my optimism or your cynicism is correct.
However, your point of the burden falling on taxpayers is correct, and while it would result in a higher tax rate for those who pay taxes, the higher levels of education would lead to a more financially enabled America in my scenario. They would hence be able to take the burden placed, and if they could not, why not tax the super rich for education costs? Better workers for their companies would be a great benefit, so it doesn't seem like that hard of a sell.
In your argument as well you are saying that a lack of risk leads to irresponsibility. Well, lets take me as an example of the opposite, a young American who has everything to lose by taking the chance of pursuing my personal dream of working in the very STEM fields you noted before, mainly as a mathematician, or working in genetics research. What's holding me back? The fact that I may not be able to complete my courses without the very student debt I spoke of earlier and Bernie talks about. Plus I would require a government loan since i am unable to pay for my education privately. This leads to FASFA or grants/Student loans. Ones I may never be able to pay off, and news flash, if you don't pass your classes with a FASFA grant you owe every penny back. This is why I want it to be free, I would prefer to do it risk free so I don't have to worry about a loan following me for the rest of my life if life happens to get in the way. We're not all freeloaders you know.
I would actually have to agree with >>691085920 on their point, make STEM free.
>>691074819
don't really care as long as there's plenty of r34 of hilldawg
>>691074819
Hillary is a woman.
What else can I say?
>>691086429
UHM maybe that she's highly qualified and served in the senate for decades and knows how to work with republicans to strike deals that benefit this country you sexist prick
>>691086336
Please don't make tech educations free. Then there will be even more half-educated uninspired idiots to filter out during the hiring process.
If you're under investigation from the FBI for treason, you shouldn't be able to run for president
>>691081071
Buddy, you are wearing rose-tinted goggles, there are flaws in everything. I have a little tip for you, wealth inequality is supposed to exist. It gives people purpose, it gives people a ladder to climb in life. The inequality is too large right now, of course, but that is because of companies abusing tax loopholes. These tax loopholes are what Trump wants to get rid of, and they're what your liberal gods defend so they get paid to sit around and make laws benefiting the companies abusing them.
Bernie is not your perfect messiah, you realize an average middle class family, even with children, would have to pay nearly 20,000 more each year under his tax plans? Replacing a corrupt tax system with an overly oppressive one is not the way forward, it's the way to bankrupt the entire country. This won't hurt the rich, they will just go to another country and let us rot.
>>691086336
I had a really small trust fund that my folks suggested I put towards college, it was only enough for a couple of papers. I went towards a BA (Psyc, American Lit, Philosophy) because "it's my money, I could spend it on a car but college is more sensible. I might as well enjoy it". Kinda useful considering the repsect for academia, critical thinking, etc I gained but career-wise: waste of time. Now, when I got a training incentive ... I definitely put that towards engineering because that is the job I have, I want to be good at my job, for society, and I need education to be better. If society is helping me with the cost, I'm going to do something to help society.
Apparently, refugees have a similar mindset: they are less likely to be involved in crime and are generally more likely to want to give back.
I'm so interested in who you'll vote because it will have great impact on our future :)
>>691074819
I'd vote for a dead squirrel before Trump
so Hillary
>>691087301
oh you and your condescending uneducated bullshit can just down a gallon of bleach. sick of people with this fucking mentality
"oh it doesn't matter because the system's rigged"
and how do you suppose we fucking fix that? we've come the closest we've been in 100 years to a political upset that takes the fucking corruption down a peg and people like you STILL THINK it was all for nothing
nah it ain't fucking over yet, hop off your non-existent high-horse and come down to earth: in order to fix the machine, you need to get your hands dirty fiddling around inside of it
>>691087656
If the rigged system was the worst part it wouldnt be so bad. Well i'm not stopping you from anything. Im just enjoying the view in here.
>>691087238
Very interesting response, we cannot all be so lucky to have a trust fund to pay our way. To be honest I wouldn't mind working in engineering, since it can be considered close to Mathematics, and to be honest analyzing the world around me and finding solutions to issue the world presents is something I greatly enjoy. I don't seek Mathematics and Genetic Reasearch simply because I enjoy it, but instead because I see potential to help not only a few people but humanity with it. Basically understanding the world around us, and the world within, or our bodies and how to work with things such as mental health and Cancer on a genetic level. Perhaps Physics would be a better fit then Mathematics? Either way, I'm interested in the world around me and so wish to pursue my passion and help others at the same time. I applaud your ability to have wisdom I myself do not and take heed of it, but it would not stop me from pursuing my goals in a perfect world.
On an unrelated note, I am curious, considering this dialogue has been going for quite some time exactly who your candidate is?
>>691087136
Trump uses those tax loopholes. Now, I could believe him if he had anything to inspire trust. When he was complaining about the rigged system, and saying that he was going to sue them and take them to court and all that, I gave him the benefit of the doubt.
Then he said, and I think this is an exact quote, "I don't care any more. Because I won. So I don't care any more".
And it's just rinse and repeat with him. I doubt that he'd close any tax loopholes.
I agree that politicians and judges up to the SCOTUS defend those loopholes and make laws benefiting the companies abusing them. That's why I can't in good conscience vote Hilliary. I could ossibly vote Hilliary out of fear of Trump, but I a) don't think Trump has any hope of winning and b) don't think Trump will be /that/ bad with the senate and congress holding him back.
Not sure about your figures of a tax increase under Sander's policies, but the value gained under the current system was more than the sum paid. Health insurance, education, ... I'd accept a criticism that it wasn't optional, and I'd have no retort, but the value argument doesn't hold any water.
And fuck the super rich. The system, as it is, is unsustainable. You're going to have riots or absurd crime rates soon enough. Let them go, and put some tariffs on their shit. USA has almost an entire continent, we don't need the super rich. Four years and we'll be better off than now and only moving upwards. Everything prior will be considered the dark ages.
>>691088313
Bernie is my candidate. If he's third-party then I'd vote him. My state, OK, will never be blue, but I hope that there are enough voters against Trump and vote Libertarian that we make steps towards getting rid of the two-party system. Currently, I'm going to vote Lib in Nov.
https://youtu.be/-hDqFJJDHhk
>>691088313
But likewise, I feel like this thread is dying so I will say thank you to all the posters. I don't come to /b/ very often anymore so it's good to see that there are still some conversations like this here.
>>691089275
Yeah mah boii.
You can feel important now.
>>691074819
Gary Johnson
Trump's a massive racist, Hillary's a massive liar and a criminal.
>>691089558
Wow finally. I thought there were only blind ppl here.
>mfw /b/ is full of cucks
>>691089673
Danny Bonaducci?
>>691089558
And Gary Johnson is a dumbass libertarian.
>>691089275
It was nice talking with you as well, have wonderful morning. I stopped coming here when these bad conversations (Lacking in any sophistication, class or intelligence) became common, it is good to know that those who seek this kind of a conversation still roam and lurk here seeking an intelligent debate and dialogue.
>>691089472
Furthermore, this fool is not me.
>>691074819
Neither.
>>691081061
Jesus shilling fucking Christ.
>>691089833
Ur intentions are noble. But what you call important is the opposite.
>>691080297
>implying that either candidate is a fiscal conservative this time around
https://youtu.be/FI4HagtgTPQ
Vote us
>>691079497
underated. post
>>691076011
>>691076882
polfag here. Our prime minister is woman. For the second time. They suck cock and do nothing else. Moreover, every fucking minister we had who was a women was a failure. Seriously, if you think of hilary, you don't think at all.
Get fags
>>691074819
hillary obviously
>>691089957
I would appreciate it if you could further elaborate on what these things that I consider 'important' are.
>>691090068
Show them that there is still courage in the world of men!
>>691077851
>killthemonarchies
>voting for the queen bitch of the corrupt establishment
you shillary shills are beyond reason
>>691074819
Simple. The real question is, do we want to move the country forward, or do we want to reset it back to the 1800s? Hillary will move the nation forward, Trump and the republicans are incapable of such things.
#Hillary2016
>>691090294
only those who are BRAIN DEAD would vote for that cunt
open your eyes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dY77j6uBHI&feature=youtu.be
>>691090569
>muh propaganda vidyas
>>691090569
>here watch a video of any politicians saying shit for 13 minutes
yeah, no thanks.
the only people who believe this shit are already wearing their tin foil hats.
>>691090312
Look at
>>691090166
Don't obey the government. Choose something you stand for and not what the government offers you. Because you can not tell me that you stand for either of them. They give the the illusion of choice. They absorb your energy and motivation with something that doesn't change anything. They tell you to choose what you consider the lesser evil while you should support what you stand for.
>>691090553
That's because we like the country how it is. You want socialism, there's plenty of places you can move to, and experience their failure.
>>691081560
>rage processors spinning up
>spinning
>Remembers a time
>Circa Deadpool
>believes he's an oldfag
underage b&, only a 12 year old considers deadpool to now a sizable amount of time
>>691090553
You paid shills make me sick
super pac announced they would be putting millions twards paying people to attack trump and post pro Hillary shit online
Just the other day saw a cunt like you that saying how he have several accounts, and if you look he post of every trump and Hillary news on multiple accounts to make it look like there are more of them then their are. Same guys boast about using those account to try mass report and get voices against Hillary silenced.....
>>691076882
i'm pretty damn sure Hilary is past menopause.
i realize menopause by itself is a huge can of emotional worms, but at the least there's consistency there, as opposed to a monthly cycle of insanity.
>>691090553
sir, please watch this:
>>691090569
>>691090817
>I like my failed capitalism experiment
If you think that the US is in any way good, you're a fool. We are a 3rd world nation by comparison to European nations which are far more evolved and civilized.
>>691090930
>hurr: it's all a vast conspiracy
>>691090675
believe this shit? ITs VIDEO OF HILLARY SAYING 1 thing then at another times SAYING THE OPPOSITE THINGs, She attacks the questioner every single time when called out on her lies saying they do not have their facts straight. WHEN it her that does have her lies straight.
>>691077759
The word you're looking for is democracy.
Everybody has the right to have their own opinion no matter how stupid it might be.
Even you.
I wish you all the best.
>>691077186
so basically you have provided us with no answer whatsoever. no contribution to the thread.
you guys are a bunch of butthurt bitches.
elections are ALWAYS about choosing the lesser of two evils. why the fuck are people not understanding this?
i think people like crying more than they like thinking.
>>691091121
>what is video editing
I'll take paid shills for 500 Alex.
>>691081061
Looks like that superpac she's illegally working with to "correct people" online is in full swing.
What a shitty person
>>691090650
Hurr Durr learning about Hillary is hard, sorry you do not want to believe or hear the truth, they need to kill all u fuckers...
>>691091121
So she's not allowed to have a differing opinion today, than she had 30 or 40 years ago?
You're an idiot.
>>691090776
It is very strange that people resist biology and history , for what 200,000 years or more men have had to be leaders , warriors & hunters , women have been gatherers & mothers.
Men have had to be competitive and women have had to try to choose good mates and cliques to raise their young.
Women are good people , just not good leaders , hell have you ever seen how women in fight in a so called group of friends or community group ? , let alone a work place.
Men are not perfect , yes we are flawed , but the success of civilisation has shown that we band together and build shit for the common benefit of everyone.
Men have this ability to hate someone and still work with them in a workplace setting , it is what my friend calls the male social verneer , we bury that shit under the surface and get the job done , women are basically the opposite , they will allow petty hatred to get in the way of productivity.
>>691091273
More like between 2005 and 2012, going from marriage is man + woman, to I HAVE ALWAYS SUPPORTED GAY MARRIAGE
>>691091089
Hurr Duur, being this retarded and unimformed
http://usuncut.com/politics/clinton-super-pac-busted/
get you head out of the sand dumbass
>>691089988
no but one is a clinton.
>>691090068
Please don't vote based on who would win a physical confrontation.
We left that behind because it turned out they weren't great diplomats.
>>691091522
the gay marriage battle is over. the gays won. no need to worry about that shit any more.
>>691080344
>I'll be placing bets on the date someone assassinates her
i've been on 4chan for a long time. people were saying the same fucking shit about obama when he ran the first time.
>>691091174
what is unedited clips spliced together? What is finding the original footage and watching it as seeing the clipped protion, What is being a lazy willfully ignorant ass for $5000 alex?
>>691090675
You're right.
>the only people who believe this shit are already wearing their tin foil hats.
"this shit" being hillary talking.
>>691091765
this shit being edited and biased video propaganda.
>>691090805
Watched 40 seconds, lost interest in it the moment I noticed the usage of the film adaptation of V For Vendetta. While I do understand your intentions and believe they are just, Anonymous has metamorphosed from a group who did things for their own entertainment into a collective of people who fight for Social Justice. In short, I no longer trust them. Not because 'the government says so' but because 12 year olds are now a part of it. Furthermore, the inclusion of the masks in the video goes to show that this is a movement and not Anonymous. Why wear a mask that IDENTIFIES you when you wish to be Anonymous, true members wear their masks everyday outside, it's called acting, and take them off on the internet. Learn the difference and stop spreading this nonsense.
>>691074819
to made the liberal media fail to cover that the violence at trump rallies are from Hillary and sanders supporters attacking, assaulting and chasing down trump supporters,
>>691082801
So we create more welfare queens for the sake of getting the tax dodgers(even though they do pay and a lot. And if you do that hey are equally as likely to just leave). Then what?
Hillary. Trump has had a federal case filed against him for raping a 13 year old girl when he was with Jeffrey Epstein. He is so fucked, once this story breaks.
https://www.rawstory.com/2016/06/donald-trump-accused-of-raping-13-year-old-in-federal-lawsuit/
Bernie
>>691079622
>>691091826
So you're saying she never said that?
Or do you just have a problem with the segments put together to make the contrast clear?
If you don't believe she actually said these things it would be very easy to look up the original videos. And prove them wrong.
>>691090851
>only a 12 year old considers deadpool to now a sizable amount of time
Okay, you do realize that Deadpool is a comic character that has been around since the early nineties, right? Just saying, you're making a complete imbecile out of yourself..... bad bait, 0/8
still Bernie
doesnt even need to campaign, just let the clintrump throw mud at each other for a few months then we remind people that write-ins are a thing and Bernie isnt dead.
>>691079248
They were stand-ins for when the male leader left for war. If he dies then she was booted from that position. They haven't evolved to posses leadership traits. I like women but goddamn are they inconsistent.
REMINDER THAT SHILLARY ACCEPTS MONEY FROM CHINESE, AUSTRALIAN, AND NIGERIAN FRONT COMPANIES. MAY CONFIRM HER AS TRAITOR
LOOK AT THE GUCCIFER LEAK
>>691092130
I really hope it's true tbh desu.
>>691092489
Ah, Donald, we Meet Again!
>>691080160
Not sure if bait or a trump supporter
>>691080160
>doesn't know what communism is
>>691074819
>combover
>fat despite being rich
Trump seems like a weak ass bitch.
>>691076882
I can't think of a single man I've ever met who I could see beeing president
Trump ! Fuck that old cunt Hillary and her dried up pussy !
>>691080297
Actually bill clinton used reganomics as an economic tactic
>>691092978
check em
>>691093034
singlesfag
>>691092692
Doe he have a tiny mouth or does the flab just make it look that way? Is his dick tiny too?
this is now a singles thread
>>691074819
>creepy sausage fingers
>>691092978
>>691093048
>>691093073
>>691093090
>>691093122
>>691093165
Twelve year olds who just woke up and need to get the fuck off /b/ before their moms figure out what their doing.
>>691079248
Moot? He's back?
>>691093279
Heaven go home, you're drunk
>>691074819
Yeah choose your puppet on strings same shit will happen regardless. Also both suck of course
>>691079781
I read that in Cho'gath's voice
>>691093261
Please don't tell mom.
>>691093133
It's the Flab, and yeah, I'm pretty sure he's packing a micropenis
>>691074819
Name once that government has helped you. Can't? Great.
>>691093405
Then get the fuck off /b/ before I do, don't go check on her though, she's too busy, getting fucked by me.
>>691074819
Neither
>>691093476
You're full of shit, buddy
>>691093535
Smelly cunt
>>691093507
Dad! For fucks sake just get of 4chan you worthless piece of shit.
What fucked up people would fuck while lurking /b/?
>>691074819
Obviously Trump, Hillary is a sociopath that let a child rapist go free and had many people killed
Someone please kill her, she cannot become president
>>691074819
One has 30+ years of public service experience, was a senator, and served as Secretary of State.
The other ran every business he got his tiny hands on into the ground and shouted "you're fired" at people on TV.
TOUGH CHOICE.
>>691093697
You're Mom you fucking bozo, now get the fuck off /b/, the adults are talking, you entitled little piece of shit.
>>691093835
A poem about this post. Done motherfucker.
>>691074819
I feel so sorry for Americans.
You lot are fucked this time.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10562581
>>691093936
>>691093953
faggots
>>691093936
>>691082289
Gary Johnson is more favorable than either of the two candidates that are running
>>691093817
Seems like you made some really bad decisions in life huh?
Are you proud of yourself?
You're a terrible father.
And an even worse rolemodel.
who would you rather fix your car the dealer or your mother ?
>>691094101
>Terrible father
>Worse Rolemodel
>Actually thinks I'm responding seriously.
You're the reason 4chan lost all it's good trolls, are you proud of yourself?
>>691094415
It's your responsibility to teach me, dad.
>>691074819
Sanders
>>691076011
Humans are not meant to be well organised, we are too irrational. It does not depend on gender or genes ignorant faggot.
>>691080160
>Being this stupid
>>691094415
Tell mom to go make me a sandwich when you two lovey doveys are done.
>>691084243
underrated comment
>>691094415
This guy is a raging faggot
>>691074819
How did the two most disliked candidates end up running?
Honestly im not sure whats worse
If the game is rigged or if this is the voting pools choice
We should seriously consider a literacy test for voting
>>691074819
Kodos
>>691076376
He's right, you know.
Stein 2016
>>691074819
Trump
>>691091931
They are no group and they most certainly are not 12. But even if they were you would still prefer liars and demons who just care about themselves over people who care about humanity as a whole?
>>691094756
Not my fault you're too stupid to catch on to it tardnugget. On that note if I catch you watching nugget porn again, I'm whooping your ass.
>>691094917
Since when were you the man of the house motherfucker? Learn your place and make your own Sandwich.
>>691094939
We're all Faggots here Silly Goose!
>>691082026
Finally an alternative!
>>691095145
because no one in their right mind wants to be president of this gay country.
>>691095503
1. You're obviously no where near as educated as you're attempting to sound.
2. You also are not the original poster who I replied to.
Now that we have gotten that out of the way I have one thing to convey before you embarrass yourself and fuck up royal. The original poster stopped responding because they realized I was right.
>>691082302
>hitman
>.50 cal
choose one retard
>>691089745
that would be a good ylyl
>>691096121
Go on then and keep doing what you're doing. Sure worked till now since you managed to escape reality and you don't even care.
>>691093476
I'd eat your ass, even full of shit.
>>691074819
Femanon here
Women shouldn't lead.
/thread
>>691097391
See women don't even understand that you can't /thread your own post.
Anyone who supports Hillary should just kill themselves
Both candidates are just "meh", so it really comes down to whether or not you want to be part of a historic election (first woman for president) or not.
Since there is really not much difference politically, then you must ask yourself are you misogynistic in your views or not?
Don't be a misogynist, vote for Hillary.
>>691096655
An Ad Homenim, the last resort of a person who knows they're cornered intellectually. Just accept it, by being a part of Anonymous, you're being a social justice warrior. The thing I find funnier is that you seem to have this idea that it will work. Who would the press contact if they needed a statement from the President? Who would congress speak to regarding bills? You're idea is pretty in theory, messy in execution, and impossible in practice.
Btw, the reason I brought up the masks, everytime you buy one of those masks you pay nearly $5 dollars to Warner Brothers studios, since they have the rights to the Guy Fawkes mask used in the film and all that look like it. The honest truth is you're living in denial. The sad truth is that you don't want to accept it.
>>691097782
Fuck you, she killed my man Gaddafi and shit all over the Middle East
>>691097782
Im sure ill be even more of a misogynist after Hillary's term
>>691074819
Trump <<<<< Hillary <<<<<< my deceased grandma
This election is a disaster
>>691097894
Wow ur so educated 8-)
I only posted a vid and gave my opinion on ur stuff. I thought you enjoyed these discussions or do you just like people agreeing to your opinion? Who called the otherone retard first?
>>691098198
>wanting hillary over trump
>doing the arrows backwards
>>691097894
I also like how you always respond in paragraphs. I seem to have upset you. How do you know tho that it won't work when all you've ever seen in that one system fucking you in the ass. Or do you actually enjoy that?
Does anyone actually even have to ponder this?
>>691098623
Trump isn't even a real Republican and Hillary is literal Satan
>>691098623
>posting obvious Democrat propaganda
>does anyone actually even have to ponder this?
Looks like you haven't.
>>691098623
This is why a two party system is the most unpleasant exercise in democracy ever.
>>691098623
you must also download free ram
To all, the idea behind voting for Hillary is to stop donald trump. Voting Jill Stein will only split our vote and allow a Trump presidency. WE CAN NOT ALLOW THAT. He is a proven bigot and racist, and we dont need that in our nation.
>inb4 how has he been racist
He said a judge could not do his job correctly because if his mexican heritage. He also said a muslim could not do his job correctly either. Thats racist against the mexican, and bigotry towards the muslim.
>>691098288
>>691098566
You take my statement as aggressive when there is no aggressiveness behind it, simply me pointing out flaws in the idea, along with flaws in your behavior. Furthermore, you taking me as aggressive is a form of projecting. You also seem from your second response to be quite agitated, did the fact that you're paying wages for fat cats at Warner bro's tick you off that much? I respond in paragraphs because my thoughts go beyond the simple 'fucking the ass' and take a look at the issue as a whole. constrained and restricted to one train of thought you lack the ability to see the bigger picture. Furthermore, I may have called you a retard, but it does not invalidate my sterling response to your further arguments, simply that response specifically. Au Contrare, I'm enjoying educating you in a group you're associated with, which oddly you seem to know so little about. To be honest, I think you're in waaaaaayyyyy over your head, but we can simply continue debating if you wish, sine, as stated, I am enjoying this quite a bit.
>>691099297
And Hillary is proven to be fine with covering up the rape of a child for a child rapist and was all for stirring shit up in the Middle East
Why not someone from a different party? Is it because of US' retarded two-party system?
>Spoiler alert: Yes, that's why
>>691099308
I just don't pay mucb attention to this shit. I just wanted to throw my shit out there make of it what you will.
https://johnsonweld.com/
>>691099729
Well, I have made of it what I will and decided that it was neither what I wanted nor needed. Have a wonderful day.
>>691094859
Tits or gtfo
>>691074819
Trump
>>691074819
Bernie on a write-in.
Fuck the dnc, thats why.
>>691079505
Based Johnson is best Johnson.
I'm voting for this guy, he is creative.
>>691100088
You too supreme and intelligent gentleman
>>691100111
Exactly what makes you think you have the right to demand pictures of my breasts?
>>691074996
Yes. The only choice.
>>691100166
don't think they count write-ins. think they just get marked as "invalid", so your vote will never even be recorded.
but look up your state rules.
>>691100467
Your vote doesnt count anyway faggot.
Might as well vote for the one you actually like.
>>691074819
T
R
U
M
P
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Fucking faggots.
>>691099622
>>691099622
Middle East Stirrings was when we armed Al Queda (nofuckhow2spell) under Reagan with the Iran Contra. They got some of those weapons. Along with that, We trained them to fight the Soviets. Since Reagan, we have been in the middle east fucking around anywho.
As for the rape case, ask any lawyer. Thats what they have to do. I was going to become a lawyer, but I simply cant do stuff like that. Lawyers can.
>>691100411
Exactly what makes you think you have the right to deny me, woman? You know the rules, now show us your tits or take your shitty opinion back to Facebook
>>691098292
Trump would be a disaster Hillary will just be bad. Arrows can go both ways learn to math.
>>691081887
so?
>>691098623
Whew lad
>>691101034
My gun, my pepper spray, my knee in your nuts,
My dignity, my pride, the knife I use to cut,
So fuck you you misogynistic cocksucker, I don't have to give you anything,
Now take your shitty opinions and go play with your dinga-ling.
>>691074819
>Problem
Muslims are homophobic and believe they should kill gay people as some type of sympathy as they are "saving" them from degeneracy
>Solutions
>Hillary
Will allow more and more muslims in
>Trump
Will ban all illegals and triple check muslims coming to America
Hmm I dunno, seems like a hard choice here
>>691100557
None of our votes count. 4chan isn't a huge political machine.
Look, the US isn't a nation of extremists. The GOP has some policies that could work, so do the Democrats. But most people wouldn't fit in those parties as they are now. Most people are independents.
If you're in FL or OH, one of the swing states, then I agree with the guy way up there: Bernie supporters should swallow the bile and vote Hilliary. She's polling well in some southern states too, so maybe GA voters could turn the state or at least normalize the Democrat voters. In the south-west and bible belt, Republicans and independents who can't stand Trump should vote for Johnson. CA: Stein?
Something like that would marginalize the bible thumpers so that we aren't dealing with stupid abortion laws. The Libertarians, who actually have a decent shot in NV, would get enough votes to put some serious candidates forward. We'd have gun laws that restrict high capacity semi-automatics (semi-automatics are fine, but you really need some sort of license for an AR-15).
Course, if Trump shuts his mouth until Nov or whatever else this freak show throws at us, all that could change, but if people vote strategic then we could actually get some change in a system that is so restrictive to change.
