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So i'm 27, still live at home, can't get a good job to move out, can't even find a bad job actually right now just to afford basic shit, I manage to fuck up or quit everything i do eventually, my mom verbally abuses me and harasses any friends or girls i meet at their jobs until they stop talking to me.

yesterday she got in a fight with me over shoprite not hiring me after i already have apped 3 times in 2 months & been in person trying to get a job. This is just one of many places, but my mom always sees a hiring sign, so she keeps bringing it up. They just don't want me, no one wants me. I've applied to well over 100 low wage/skill jobs in the last 2 months & gotten 1 call back.

she starts yelling at me about shoprite again telling me I'm not trying hard enough, breaks my door frame for the 5th time.the last girl i dated refused to fuck me with the door fucked up, & then my mom went to her job multiple times drunk, insinuating she didn't like the girl & saying things I didn't say.

So I ripped her door off the hinges saying if i can't have an even semifunctional door, neither can you. She called the cops for domestic violence on me.

I had friends coming 2 smoke green, drink, & watch the cavs/warriors game and they saw cops here. They are now all avoiding me because most of them already have been charged with possession of a fucking dime or some shit and it's fucking their lives.

So the 1st friends I've made in 8 years since hs are no longer talking to me, the cops now know i smoke (came in my room out of nowhere & saw a bowl), & I won't be surprised if this domestic violence shit will come up on a background check. It's only a matter of time before the cops pull me over & find something.

Every1 has let me kno how much of a loser & man-child i am for the last years, but i can't seem to figure out how to make adult money & get out of this house so i can finally live life w/o my mom constantly starting fights and intentionally ruining my personal relationships.
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>>690671234
Is there a question in this clusterfuck of an OP or is this a poor pityfull me post? How about you just join the military and go die for your country or something useful.
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>>690671234
>I had friends coming 2 smoke green, drink, & watch the cavs/warriors game
I found the problem OP, you're either a nigger or a scumfuck pothead going nowhere in life. That's why nobody wants to hire you. Stop smoking weed and being a general drain on society and things might get better.

Either that or kill yourself and do everyone a favor
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>>690671234
she wants to fuck random dudes all day and you are cramping her style by losering. GTFO of home you sad fuck
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>>690671234
You are doing something wrong, something very very wrong. Compare yourself to others that are doing well in life, and try to be more like them.
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>>690672097
>>690672103
Pretty much this but I'm curious how you can't get a job at McDonald's. Post a pic there is something you're not telling us op
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>>690672654
>something you're not telling us
OP pretty much said he's a useless piece of shit
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I found the problem OP, you're either a nigger or a scumfuck pothead going nowhere in life. That's why nobody wants to hire you. Stop smoking weed and being a general drain on society and things might get better.

Either that or kill yourself and do everyone a favor
why do you have such a bad view of pot? It's the same concept as alcohol, do it when you aren't at work and you are fine. Alcohol is actually a neurotoxin and inhibits you much more then weed.

Also, more white kids smoke pot then blacks in my experience.

I'm not on any public benefits so how am I a drain on society? I don't even create much of a burden on my mom, I pay for all my own chit and try to contribute as best I can, going into debt actually now.... I buy and cook all my food, pay my bills, etc.

I've suffered from depression most of my life and always wanted to kill myself, but I'm too much of a pussy to do it tbh, I feel like i'll probably fuck that up too and be in much worse shape.
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>>690671234
goddamnit dude .. im you but 4 years younger
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You got two choices man.
Join the army
Or become a fucking adventurer
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>>690671234
Get a job at a restaraunt /b/ro even as a busser, save up those tips work hard and you will be able to afford your own place. Try for a middle of the road steakhouse, you will make some chill friends, get to eat awesome food every day and make enough cash to move out. Plus no drug test and limited background check, they only check for theft. You should be good, Just make sure to leave your shit at the door before work. Worked for me
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>>690671234
>So i'm 27, still live at home, can't get a good job to move out
This is actually common.

>http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2015/07/29/more-millennials-living-with-family-despite-improved-job-market/
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>Pretty much this but I'm curious how you can't get a job at McDonald's. Post a pic there is something you're not telling us op

I'm not posting a pic of myself, I'm a relatively average south american male. I'm skinny but in decent shape, stopped lifting a year ago. my facial aesthetics are relatively average, 5-6 probably.

My last and only friend works at mcdonalds and I don't want to ruin our friendship over some workplace bs.

Regardless, working in fast food will never get me anywhere in life, so what type of stupid ass suggestion is that.
I need adult money to move on with my life, you can't survive off that without having at least one person to move into a 1br/1b apartment.

I can't even hope to meet a girl, my mom would attempt to sabotage it for some reason... The first girl i fell in love with she would say to me she hopes the girl broke up with me multiple times per week.
Last girl she harassed at her job.
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I mean im from the usa, but my origin is south american
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>Kill mom
>Be pimp
>Is fag but shit pays hundreds. Hella lots of pimps at my college got bucks
>Tell you what OP, beta uprise up this bitch...dammit!
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>>690672965
Why the fuck did you copy all my shit and not just reply you newfag

Seriously you're a huge fuck up. I see it more and more the more you write.

>do it when you aren't at work and you are fine
But you're never at work. Pot isn't the problem, the problem is you're a potheadded lazy fuck who would rather spend your money on weed than your accumulated debt.

>alcohol is actually a neurotoxin and inhibits you much more than weed
Little advice, stop reading the pro-weed articles off Facebook, their sources are heavily biased because it's easy to get money when a mindless hoarde of stoners reads everything you post

>also, more white kids smoke pot THEN blacks in my experience
Whether this is true or not is irrelevant, what I was saying is that you're either a pothead scumfuck or a nigger, which by default makes you a scumfuck

You're a drain on me and the community's money because they have to send the cops to your house once a week to settle down your tantrums
You're a drain on your mother by living in her house far beyond the length of time which she is obligated to provide for you
You're a drain on everyone and everything around you because of your piss poor attitude and non existent drive to better yourself.

You didn't apply to 100 places without an answer, you're over exaggerating and you never really gave it a shot. Shop rite hires literal retards. Quite literally mentally and physically retarded people, and you are less desirable than them.

How do you pay for all your own "chit" if you don't have a job? Using the allowance you get from mommy, still burdening her?

And you don't have depression you're just lazy and have no motivation. It's easy to pretend like you're ready to kill yourself to get the pressure of your worthless life off your own shoulders and onto your mother's.

If you really were depressed your best best would be to kill yourself, but I'm sure you're too much of a coward for that
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>>690673766
Hey it's me again
>>690674713
>stopped lifting a year ago
There you go again, no motivation, no drive to do anything to better yourself.

>regardless, working in a fast food place will never get me anywhere in life, so what type of stupid ass suggestion is that?
This is the biggest misconception you worthless people have. Right now you are nothing, you have nothing, you're one step above homeless because you leech off your mother. ANYTHING is better than the $0 an hour you earn now. It doesn't have to be a permanent job but as of now you're nothing. Working anywhere, fast food included, is better than fucking off and doing nothing acting like you're better than that. You're not. You can't land a job anywhere because you're a piece of shit. What do you expect, someone hires you off the street making $90K a year with no prior experience at a job anywhere at all? Seriously, reevaluate your life

Don't even get me started on girls, do NOT drag down some girl with you into your shit hole. Girls want a guy who can provide anyway, not some faggot 27 year old who can't pay for his own meal let alone a house to get away from his mommy
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>>690674713
normie alert
suck my good boy points you shitlicking faggot
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>>690673766
This is exactly what you need to fucking jerry.. You need to start the same fucking path as everyone, get shit job, move out and stop your mom from fucking your life up jerry.... Move into a house with other people , start learning something useful or worth money, get a ccna in 6 months of study and make 45k minimum , move out of house to a small apt by yourself , keep moving up 1 step at a time Jerry! Not going to land a fucking 100k job out of the blue jerry
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>>690674713
its called constructive criticism

I mean damn I he needs help not some reactionary bullshit diatribe that's not gonna help him

ffs
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>>690675893
Cuck
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>>690671234
I am 39 years old and 100% virgin.
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because the layout is shit and i don't understand it?

regardless, I am not paying for any pot right now. You are making tons of assumptions just as everyone else always does.

I told you how i paid for shit the last few months after my unemployment ran out, I am now in debt.

The cops don't come to my house often, and you are also accusing me of starting the fight.
She was literally yelling in my face because I went to shoprite again like she asked to inquire about a job and they told me the HR wasn't there that day, even though they told my mom she would be. Then my mom called and they told her I wasn't even in their "system" of applications. They likely lied to get my mom to go away. So when i told her that's not possible, i've applied there 3 times in 2 months every time she has asked me to, she freaked out threw a water bottle at me and slammed my already shotty door 4 times until it broke again.

Then when I break her door, she calls the cops and since I have a penis, I am the bad guy.
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to clarify, i only smoke with other people when they hit me up. generally because they can't smoke at their homes and they are social smokers.

so i pay nothing and am lucky to smoke a few times a week right now.

And honestly the weed is the only thing the stops me from flipping out like i did since my mom insulting and yelling at me is a daily occurence, whether I am working or not. She has been this way my whole life. She used to beat me as a child until i let her know I wouldn't allow for that.

I'm adopted and my friend and I once heard her talking to a friend and she said "Blood is thicker than water and i'll never be her son."

She I think adopted me to save her marriage and got divorced right after, so I have always been a mistake or burden to her i think
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>>690676801
Go up to the girl you wanna fuck n tell them you're a big ol donkey dick motherfucker
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>>690677560
>I'm adopted
Ah, always remember that only idiots are given the gift of children, and the worst people out of all become adoptive parents.
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>>690671234
Your dad is worthless and raised a moron.
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>>690672370
Never compare your self to others, OP, itll make you feel shittier than you are.
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>>690676801
Click the numbers next to my post and it brings up a box to reply directly to me.

You're not paying for pot, but you just smoked and drank the other day with your friends. So either you're mooching off them or you associate with people who can get you free pot, which would make them degenerates and the type of people employers would want to avoid hiring.

Your mother, the woman who made you, raised you, and currently pays for the roof over your head, can start as many fights as she wants. The least you could do is suck it up and obey her rather than trying to puff out your chest and act like a hardass
>>690677560
While unfortunate this is really just a sob story at this point. The circumstances of your birth won't restrict the life you can live, especially not this late in your life
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>>690677975
>Your mother, the woman who made you, raised you, and currently pays for the roof over your head, can start as many fights as she wants.
Not him but that's some stupid shit right there. This authority bootlicking has to stop it's destroying humankind. PS - she's an adoptive mother, apparently so no.
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>>690678425
It's fine that you disagree, but then he should move out of her house. You can't expect or demand authority in a house you have no right being in
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>>690679014
It's the house he was raised in, it doesn't suddenly become monetized or a liability to enable and justify abusive behaviour. I'm so tired of this shithead logic, that because you were born/raised into a household and have only ever lived there, that suddenly it can be leveraged as a bargaining chip to control and blackmail you, especially if it's just generally destructive shitheaded abuse and strife.
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>>690677975

How is it mooching when they literally call me to smoke in my house because it's safer then being on the streets and getting a felony charge, plus I have a good setup for people to chill, listen to music, watch movies, ect.

The employers never meet me, how would they know I am a pothead thru my electronic application?

There is a fine line between putting your foot down and abusing your children, whether they are older or not.

If a husband pays for a household, is he allowed to beat and verbally abuse his wife for not meeting his demands?

There is a certain level or respect even parents should maintain, and there is a point where you are damaging their mental health more then helping.

You don't seem to understand how much I really put up with. I have a very high tolerance for bs and I haven't exploded in a year like this even though she constantly demeans me.
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just move out
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>>690680668
Of course, the answer was so simple, why did I not think of it?
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i actually prefer living at home. make 30k a year, so far saved up like 50k over 2 years lol. its just sitting in my bank making me feel good.
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Ive been feeling especially depressed the last week or 2, my friends were coming over and i couldn't even talk.

I just sat there.

idk I get that i shouldn't have done what i did, but there's only so much a person can take before they react.

And then to call the cops on me when you did even less then me in the situation, likely fucking up my future even worse, is just idiotic.

She's upset i can't get a job so she lets the police know i smoke weed by letting them in my room and calling them on a DV charge after the situation was already over.

She did it just to fuck me over even more, she gets some pleasure out of making my life miserable.

I had a landscaping job 2 weeks ago, and she stayed up all night every single fucking night opening and closing doors cleaning shit. SHE IS A HOARDER AND NEVER CLEANS. She did it to fuck up my sleep and get me fired. i specifically told her you are ruining my sleep and I'm going to lose my job if i don't have the energy to keep up. I was so tired after each work day 8-10 hours of ONLY weed whacking.

suffice to say, i slept thru the literally 10-20 alarms i set in my phone to wake me up, and they let me go.
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>>690671234
I've been homeless more times than someone of my caliber could ever explain (begging the question of my caliber).

You keep going like an unstoppable machine OP. You take that bullshit job at fast food because it's a fucking paycheck. You begin looking for a better job the very same day you get that shit hole job (even if it's only negligibley better). Then you repeat that process. You start online classes as soon as you can (inquire with schools as to the consequences of getting a job after financial aid is approved)
>"but I don't know what I want to do"
Want to take general education online one class at a time if that's what it takes is what you do til you figure out what you want to do. General ed will be partially complete by then.
Stop alcohol and drugs till you celebrate the beginning of the life you want after you SUCCESSFULLY complete school (and then think twice about starting that shit again after you've just begun the beginning of a successful life)
Study behavior and be observant rather than reactive.
Take every challenge, big or small, significant or insignificant and invest it as fuel in your never ending journey to self fulfillment.
And when you look back at the dues you've paid, the hardship that forged the unstoppable machine that you'll eventually become: find a person that was in your shoes and deserving of the chance you gave yourself and help them to achieve the same.
Make getting to the point of giving back the target. Everything else will fall into place (with the right balance of work, study, and self improvement).

You owe it to yourself and the kindred soul whom will be the next seed of self development.
Life doesn't fuck you unless you let it, OP.
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>>690681293
This
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>>690680234
Look, I'm a guy on the internet who has pointed out all your flaws. Everything I pointed out needs to be worked on and fixed for you to overcome this shit life and become something. The excuses you are making to me mean nothing, no excuse means anything. Do something to change or live your life the way you have been. You came here for advice, I think, and I told you what needs to be changed. I'm going to sleep now because I have work in the morning. Good luck, I genuinely hope things get better but I hope they get better by your own hand and not by handouts.
>>690680171
You misunderstood me, I'm not saying he needs to blindly follow his mom's word because he was raised in the house. He needs to not cause her grief by arguing with her when he still currently lives in the house. She is doing him a favor by allowing him to live there, if she is a moody bitch who snaps at him he needs to diffuse the situation rather than escalate it to the point of the cops being involved. If his ego or pride is too big for that, that's totally ok, but he needs to move out on his own to a house that he pays for to make his own rules.
It's the equivalent of you giving a homeless man $100, he tells you to go fuck yourself then sticks his hand out for more
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>>690681273
You have some serious challenges OP. If success is your light bulb; subtract those incidentces from 1000 like Edison and keep fucking trucking till it's not even a second thought.
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>>690671234
dude, fuck that online application bs. Get out and pound the pavement. Walk into every business you can find (not the Big Box places, small businesses) and introduce yourself to the owner/manager and ask if they are hiring.
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Dude. I bought a house at 25. I make 45k a year and make everything work. There's no excuse. You need to out in work.
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>>690682304
The only thing to fix is making enough money to be called an adult and move out.

My mom is mentally ill and causes fights on purpose. She doesn't stop until i react, at the very least, she hates seeing my happy, likely because she blames me for part of her misery.

And your example of "It's the equivalent of you giving a homeless man $100, he tells you to go fuck yourself then sticks his hand out for more" is complete and utter bullshit.

It's more the equivilent of "You give a homeless man 100$ and then constantly harass and demean him for his situation until he snaps, and then you call the police on him because that 100$ justifies you treating him like he is less then human.
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>>690683457
>My mom is mentally ill and causes fights on purpose. She doesn't stop until i react, at the very least, she hates seeing my happy, likely because she blames me for part of her misery.

ARE YOU ME? Bro no one ITT understand like I do...
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>>690683362

I am having trouble finding a job that pays 20k a year, and even if i did, i would still be the loser living with his psychotic mom that goes out of her way to destroy her sons personal relationships and make him angry everytime she sees him happy.
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>>690676488
yeah again your point is lost because you aren't actually helping youre just acting like an asshole
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>>690683930
depends where you live. 20k a year in calfiornia is poverty but 20k in bumfuck ohio or missouri is like normal average ok life lol
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>>690683457
If that's truly the case, which is pretty close to my own, but with someone who wasn't family and offered assistance as a way of gaining "control" over me; gather what you need and walk the fuck away from that toxic environment like I did. Except they found out my plans and changed the locks on me. I walked away with the clothes I was wearing, my phone and charger.
>"that's illegal. You should have done something. Don't let them get away with that "
I wrote all that off (metaphorically) and I don't regret it.
Think about solutions instead of the road blocks you see. It's not that they aren't legit, significant road blocks. Successful people focus on how they'll over come challenges instead of how the odds against them are what's preventing them from their goals.
Focus on how you'll overcome! Even if you don't YET know how you'll succeed!
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So lemme get this straight...

You have no job, a drug habit, live with your adoptive mother who obviously wants you to get out, complain that even shit tier jobs are above you, think it's okay to argue with your mother in HER house (unfortunately people that are saying it's your house too are retarded, you didn't pay for it, and you're an adult so suck it up)

Not to mention.. you're inviting your low life mates over for weed parties.

If you don't like the way your mother is treating you, leave. Suck it up, grow a pair, and join the rest of the real world. The weed is obviously not helping either, but then, you're an obvious tard to begin with it's probably just compounding that problem.

man the fuck up. or kill yourself.
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>>690685161
lol im this guy >>690683362 but even i dont invite my idiot friends over and i hide that fact i smoke weed by doing it outside or very rarely in my room in the window. OP is an idiot.
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>>690684056
new jersey.

1br/1b apartment that isn't someone's tiny ass attic/basement or in section 8 housing infested with bed bugs, cock roaches, and drug addicts will run me $1300 a month.

The cheapest apartment i found was 1br no bath in someone's basement for 900$ a month.
That's literally half of my income for one small ass room in an entire house with a mortgage that is probably only 1500 dollars, fucking lol.

I need to either make 15$ an hour + to barely scrape by and not live in the projects, or i need to work 55+ hours for anything under 13 an hour.
But employers don't generally like it when you try to restrict your availability to have 2 jobs.

Hence why i had a period of time where i worked 2-8am 6 days a week and also 5-10pm 5 days a week + 3 college courses at a time. So i was literally napping twice a day to get by for months, ended up losing the newspaper job after my car got damaged, lost my other long-term job for being ~1-5 late so many times due to always trying to get some sleep, my body just couldn't maintain the schedule on no sleep. But this was months after i lost the other job, so i had perfect attendance for a while. Called out using sick time twice in 4 years, cashed out the majority of my vacations....

The excuse they used to get me into a union meeting and fired though was "stealing company time" because i changed the song on my phone which took all of 10 seconds when there was a lull in production.

Since then i've had alot of trouble finding any work.
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>>690686036
idk man, most people who constantly have bad things happen to them usually are letting it happen to them or just arent intelligent enough to fix or avoid the constant problems. either that or youre the unluckiest guy in NJ
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>>690683930
Knock this bullshit disparaging thinking the fuck off. Be determined to overcome even if you don't know how you'll do it.
Disparaging thoughts are a product of your mother's negative influence on you!
We all have traits of our parents. Good for those that had parents that passed on favorable traits.
People like you and me weren't so fortunate. We got shitty parents that passed shitty traits.
You have the choice to stop the negative cycle.
You've may have been conditioned to function only if you have all the ingredients to achieve an end.
Abandon that!
You can't expect to have all the necessities of success to be successful, ass backwards as it sounds.
Step outside the comfort zone with limited options and go for your goals, even if you don't know how.
Don't be afraid to fuck up, even if it's worse than you want to fuck up.
Develop the belief that you'll find a way if you need to, even if you'd rather not.
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>>690686369
How can you be so out of touch with real life? I mean, I need to ask what kind of oversupported sheltered life do you live where adversary isn't the norm and people with hard times and struggles are so foreign to you.
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Join the United States Border Patrol.

Gs5 or 7 pay depending on your qualifications starts you at a base salary of 39k/45k plus you work 10 hour days so 2 hours of that is overtime which means you're making an additional .25 times your base salary a year.

39k = ~ 49k
45k = ~ 56k

Every year you bump paygrades

Year 1 gs5 (if that's where you started)
Year 2 gs7
Year 3 gs9
Year 4 gs11
Year 5 gs12 ~70I basepay + OT

TRAINING IS PARAMILITARY. excellent field skills and great job building resume.

Plus You live in the south west us so your money goes alot further.
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>>690686747
well i live in america. where if you have a problem theres always a fix for it. its either youre own laziness, procrastination, or lack of direction or even lack of intelligence that is causing your problems.
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>>690686836
ya except you have to risk getting shot by drug armies and sit around in the desert all day. fuck that shit
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>>690671234
Sounds to me like you suffer from a relatively common disease known as "being a shitty person"
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>>690686980
>it's either
>this is all i can think of
>muh tax dollars
You're fucking stupid.
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Go to thrift stores, start looking shit up on your phone on ebay, even the most random shit. Same for flea markets or garage sales.

I did like 70k in sales between amazon and ebay and took half the year off. Fuck a normal job
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Okay for one you need to turn off your emotions. Two, take a step back evaluate your situation. Im 24 going on 25 and my list of problems just keeps growing. I work a recieving job at sears and im barely making it but I am. You can easily make it if you strategize your life. Also sometimes you just have to be cold hearted just to get ahead
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>>690687164
Yeah, he's not like those other guys that go on the internet and call anons 'shitty people'. He's the worst kind of scum that *doesnt* do that, for shame.
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>>690685480
you really think it's safer to smoke it outside?

my mom has no problem with me smoking weed, it's literally the only thing that keeps me from being depressed and miserable all the time. I hate drinking and any types of pills.
She is on all types of medications so she understands why i smoke, and she understands the laws in NJ make it very dangerous to even be a user.

You are assuming all stoners are lowlifes?
One of them is completing an engineering degree and working 2 jobs at resturaunts, one of them has a job that pays ~600$ a week and they drive around NY (carpet cleaning service), one of them landscapes for 50+ hours a week.

There are plenty of high functioning pot users out there, just like there are fucking construction workers who drink on breaks and every night when they go home.

Being a drug user doesn't automatically make one a loser, although obviously harder drugs take a firmer grasp on people.
Also, people who use drugs, especially pot, are generally suffering some type of emotional disorder and it balances them out.

I can't tell you the amount of bipolar and depressed people i've met who smoked or drank alot, but i've also met a pretty fair amount of people who can still maintain a life balance while using less hard drugs like alcohol or weed.
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>>690687093

Since 1924 only 124 agents have been killed. Almost 3/4 in traffic accidents. Very few gunfight. But yes there are some. And you do have to be in the desert. That sucks too. But again. If you've got nothing else and want great training and a step in the door of the federal government it's there. They're attempting to hire 5000 people in the next few years.
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>>690687294
Surely this is bait . . .
It's not like I lurked around looking for some innocent child to call a shitty person.
He posted a thread about his own shortcomings on /b/ . . .
What do you expect to happen?
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>>690687773
I expected some hypocritical asshole to come along and be completely ironic because he's a self-righteous asshole. I was right.
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>>690686369
This may not have been the way you want to hear it but there's truth to it.
I looked at everything being my fault - in a motivating way. Not "I can't do anything right" perspective.
In a way that observed and assessed my situations to see how I could alter my own behavior to avoid repeating the mistake. True manipulation of your reality is learning the relationship of your position in the reality and how to adjust your own actions and behavior to achieve the end you want. Not manipulating the exterior reality into doing what's convenient and easy for you. You can't grow if you just dwell in your comfort zone.
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>>690687867
At least I have a real job that wasn't handed to me and I don't bother my aging mom with teenager problems. . . Just sayin'
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>>690671234
http://goo.
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>>690687093
It's not that this statement isn't true.
It's your shitty attitude and philosophy of finding what's wrong and fucked up about a situation instead of how it can help you to the next level. How negative situations can be a stepping stone to success that you walk over instead of being walked over. This statement says to me "I want to get out of my shitty situation, but I'd prefer an easy way to go about it rather than a method that involves a lot of effort.
Focus on what it takes to succeed. Not on the least stressful way of getting there.
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>>690688067
>i got a job and a gassed head and think i'm some kind of hero for having it and think no one else has a job because they're not as hardworking as i am

yep, you're insecure and projecting.
too bad
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>>690687462
Defending your vice projects an image you're too ignorant to know you don't want to project.
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>>690688730
strategy>effort

I hope you know this. The richest men in the world didn't work hard, they worked strategically. No one gets ahead by working "hard". Slaves and third worlders work harder than anyone, and they're stupid to think that's what will get them out of that situation; working even harder lol.

"hard work" is nothing if you're brainless and lacking strategy, and sometimes formulating the strategy itself is the hardest work
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>>690688730
>cliche bullshit
Can you be any more trite though?
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>>690689366
Elaborate. In more than three sentences. You sound like OP.
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>>690689168
Same difference. You have a shitty chance at achieving wealth if you look for the opportunity to pick apart trivial shit like this instead of seeing how it relates. Is this the faggot op?
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>>690677878
if you read the thread, you would understand my mom got divorced within a year of adopting me because she is emotionally abusive and obese.

She needs to be the happiest person in the room/house, and if she isn't, she will make sure everyone else is as miserable as her.

I have a brother who is 7 years older than me and he moved out only 2 years ago (he was in prison for 7 years, 19-26).

He comes home for maybe 20 minutes on fridays after work to see my mom and they get into a very loud argument every time.

It's not just me, that's her first born and only blood son, and she fights with him just the same.
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if you don't like that life, change it. sink or swim, and you will figure it out. once the pressure is on people can do anything
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ITT
Faggot op asks for advice and tells everyone why their advice isn't good enough. He should know. He's an expert at not being good enough.
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>>690689076
but you would probably not have the same opinion about someone prescribed Xanax for their anxiety/depression, one of the most addictive drugs out there that destroys peoples lives.

Side effects like short-term memory loss and brain fog, aka literally blackout on hours of your life.

but yea, weed is the worst, kills tons of people in accidents every year, destroys lives, phukking lol.
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>>690690086

>She needs to be the happiest person in the room/house, and if she isn't, she will make sure everyone else is as miserable as her.

Replace house with thread.
Do you see how you're influenced by her?
Break the cycle op.
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>drugs
>alcohol
The keys to an unsuccessful life
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WHY THE FUCK ARE THERE CAR SEATS INSIDE A FUCKING HOUSE?
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>>690690590
Is this op?
Look at this response. If this is op just leave. The point is working with what you have despite how little that is. Shut the fuck up and quit bitching.
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>>690687462
Why can't any of your wildly successful pothead friends help you move out or give you a place to stay or help you find a job?
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>>690690926
True.
But op wants to consume his substances and have them too.
He'll use every exception to the rule as an excuse to continue using and blame circumstance.
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>>690690301
The only advice i dismissed was working at a minimum wage shithole with no opportunity for growth.

If i just need to get by for a while, sure, great.

The fact is I am not worried about paying my normal month to month bills.

I am only concerned with being able to afford to move out, so wasting any amount of time in an entry level position with no upward prospect is pointless, and also says something about what i desire to achieve at this point in my life.

Would you be interested in hiring someone for a serious position who was 27 years old working at mcdonalds?

No, you would probably assume they are lower class, they are willing to settle for that job, they are projecting a poor image to the middleclass or better person who is going to hire them for an adult job.

Also, not interested in any type of job that requires me to wield a gun. I don't believe in violence or war, and I am not about to put my life on the line for some elitist agenda disguised as defense of the our public.

Not insulting people who are in armed service, It just isn't aligned with my morals and beliefs.
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>>690691676
You should take any minimum wage shit job you can to start saving up. Every hour that you aren't earning isn't moving you toward any kind of goal whatsoever. How is earning 0$/hr right now better than earning min wage? Also people do make careers out of starting at a crappy job, having no job for x number of years also looks better than a huge employment gap. But I guess just keep on doing what you are doing, it's working amazingly for you right now
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>>690691676
Again.
Focus on what won't work.
Going straight from a job you don't want to the ideal career.
It's a gradual process. You probably won't find a job as better as anyone would like to have. But the point is to keep progressing.
You seem to have the "oh hell no. I ain't reading all that shit" attitude towards gradual progression.
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>>690691676
>Would you be interested in hiring someone for a serious position who was 27 years old working at mcdonalds?

>No, you would probably assume they are lower class, they are willing to settle for that job, they are projecting a poor image to the middleclass or better person who is going to hire them for an adult job.

I'd rather hire the unemployed guy for sure
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>>690692370
This so much.
I hope to God this is bait for your sake op. You're way worse off than you think if you are actually looking for the "one weird trick" to success.
Especially looking online and on /b no less.
Talk less and maybe you'll make it because people won't know to hold how big of a faggot bitch you are against you.
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Sorry OP, but youre a huge faggot. My mom has narcissistic personality disorder, wont bother describing because its exactly the same as yours. Divorced, siblings got kicked out (she kicked out her own son so thats a little worse than yours). I worked shit jobs, the kind youre making excuses not to do. I made money, got an education, got a better job, got my own house. Nothing special about this. Everyone does it. Youre just a faggot and i have no pity for you. Unless youre disabled or etc or etc youre a huge fucking loser and you should stay where you are until your mindset changes. Im my own boss now - admittedly, a struggling business, but its a long way from absolute 0. Because im a small business i dont get the best workers and the ones that piss me off are exactly like you - full of excuses. Feel free to respond to this with another excuse or call me a prick or whatever. Its not going to change your situation. Fuck off and stay in the slums and spend the rest of your life on handouts from a person you hate, you lazy piece of shit
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>>690693017
What's wrong with becoming a mason and having the floodgates of special opportunity break open??
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>>690693019
>I made money, got an education, got a better job, got my own house. Nothing special about this.
...got a huge mortgage, supporting the Jew banks for my life's mission while never understanding my role in it
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>>690693019
If this angers you because
>"this guy has no clue how hard I have it",
Then you're truly fucked.
As fucking cheesy as it was :
Stewie was right in that cash scam episode of family guy: "weather you think you can or think you can't :you're right.
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>>690691460
They are all in the 20-22 range and live at home... there is no point in moving out to pay someone else's mortgage when you live in a state as expensive as NJ.

paying rent/owning property is probably the biggest factor causing the divide between the rich and the poor.

The poor are literally bleeding money while the rich are building up property assets.

I never claimed they were "wildly successful"
I simply stated they weren't fucking losers, and they are making decent headway in life for their age.

One of them helped me get a landscaping job and my mom purposefully made noise all night so i couldn't sleep after asking her to stop.

She was opening and closing doors to the room next to mine every 10 minutes for hours, vacuuming the hallway right outside my door and shit at 1am-4am.

She is a hoarder and literally never cleans.
She literally bought that vacuum a year ago, and that was the 2nd time I ever saw her use it, the night after i asked her to stop making so much fucking noise when i need to sleep.

I ended up oversleeping thru legit 10+ alarms because she insisted she had insomnia from her new medication and all of sudden she felt inspired to go in and out of the room next to mine all night long, WHEN EVERY SINGLE ROOM IN THE HOUSE IS FULL OF SHIT SHE IS A HOARDER.

it is now about 10 days after i lost that job, it's 1am in the morning and she is fast asleep.

INTERESTING HOW INSOMNIA DISAPPEARS

She is sabotaging me on purpose. I believe she is afraid to be alone and doesn't actually want me to move out. She wants me around so she can abuse me and make me take care of all the stupid shit she is too fucking OBESE TO DO.
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>>690693019
It's assholes like you that are so easily brought to self-conceit that always climb way up on their high horse itching for a chance to call someone else lazy. Seriously scumbag you're a nobody, fuck you
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>QUESTIONQUESTIONQUESION

do I run away from home tomorrow to move 435KM away to make $22/hour for two weeks (expecting to make $4600+) and possibly come back to no home? but continue to have this job until around September
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>>690693890
"I'm fucked because someone else has more control and influence over me than I do myself ".
>" they just don't get it "
Why don't you walk the fuck away.
I did and slept on the street in San Francisco during the fall.
Let me guess :>" New Jersey is way colder than San Francisco "
It's summer. Start walking South along the coast, eat out of trash cans and collect cans on your way. I know people who literally did that back AND forth from SF and LA.
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>>690694805
Cuz he's a pussy that likes getting himself into shitty situations so he can complain. He likes complaining more than doing what it takes to better himself.
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>>690671234
Start a pony or trap tread next time. You'll look like less of a faggot.
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>>690671234
OP is your name Joaquin? Wysteria Lane?
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>>690695680
Why? Is that guy a huge self defeating faggot too?
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>>690694805
I always hear people say "I was homeless for X amount of time"

What the fuck does being homeless do for anyone? It is not a productive solution to a problem, it is simply the worst case scenario at the tail end of a shit-storm rolling thru your life.

If being homeless made people more successful, guess what, we wouldn't have any fucking homeless people now would we?

Clearly thats why rich kids are successful right? because they didn't have any tools to succeed and that situation somehow caused them to find an amazing job, get a college education, ect.
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>>690671234
Ha, beta faggot
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>>690693890

You blame your mom for everything that's wrong with your life, faggot. Even thought the only responsible for your shitty life and current situation is yourself.

It's ironic how you're still living with her if you hate her so much.
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>>690695851
yup. was my fiancee's ex-boyfriend lol
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>>690693895
Im a nobody? Im not the one whos... "lazy". If youre lazy you deserve to be called lazy. If youre stupid, thats different. People are born stupid. Im relatively stupid myself - i take longer to learn things than most people and i acknowledge this.

Laziness on the other hand is entirely your fault, and if you want things to be better but cant get over your laziness, well... that says something doesnt it? Literally the only thing stopping you is yourself. You cant control an internal problem that youre the solution of. Thats pretty fucking useless.

You deserve to be mocked, and maybe one day, just maybe, when youve finally had enough youre going to shout FUCK IT and either

1. Kill yourself
2. Start doing something
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>>690671234
You're a pot-head. That's your problem. Quit it and handle your shit or kill yourself, no one cares.
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>>690695890
I fucked up and made it through it. You sound like my roommate.
"I'll never be the stereotypical image of success because I wasn't provided with everything for success like the rich kids I see and I refuse to let you make any point about self reliance because I don't know shit about that "
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>>690671234
implying, not insinuating
you fucking retard
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>>690696407
So if someone drinks beer every night after work, they are an alcoholic?
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>>690696407
Of all the things, Pot is the least of OPs worries.

Learn a trade while you live at home, then move out and make dosh. If you can't learn then just kill yourself.
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>>690696539
This is why the internet is fun, you have a bunch of idiots who like to twist your statements to fit their own little box they want to put you in.

I never claimed it was impossible to succeed without being rich, I simply claimed being homeless is not any type of advantage.

How you misconstrued that is pretty impressive, not rustled though.
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>>690696759
I swear to God : if you were on fire and someone pointed to a solution, you'd find something wrong with the solution instead of doing what it takes to save yourself.
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>>690696759

I don't know why do you keep defending, OP.

He is a clearly a shithead who's only hobbies are drinking and smoking, he literally brags about getting free weed from his friends.
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>>690697094
>>690697119
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>>690696744
in·sin·u·ate
inˈsinyəˌwāt/
verb
verb: insinuate; 3rd person present: insinuates; past tense: insinuated; past participle: insinuated; gerund or present participle: insinuating

1.
suggest or hint (something bad or reprehensible) in an indirect and unpleasant way.


the word i used is literally a synonym for imply, but with the added negative connotation, so it actually fits my sentence better.

nice try though
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OP, if even shit tier jobs arent accepting you, your first step is to find out why.

If theres something SO FATALLY WRONG that you cant even flip burgers or wait tables, its going to be -damn- obvious.

We dont know what it is, but you sure as hell do, and if you dont youre literally retarded and should not be here because you cant use electronics or youre lying to us and deep down you know the answer but are too much of a lazy fuck to do anything about it. In which case, sorry, thats your fault.
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>>690697119

lol, strong rustle attempts.

I only mentioned it was free because someone said i was paying for it....
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and i don't even like drinking.
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I'm so glad I saw this thread. I felt like a looser earlier, but I'm not that bad off if there are inept retards like OP out there.

I'm probably going to get a job you blew because I'm no where near as big a fuck up as you op.
Thanks fagit.
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>>690671234
>physically exhausting paycheck to paycheck job
>no social life
>socially timid
>no normalfag interests other than vidya
>love life as desolate as mars
>live with family

At this point in my life, I feel like I live in a bubble that only I inhabit and the outside world is a far removed place I could ever exist in myself. Not that I want to be a part of this cheap, impulsive, instant gratification-centric world. At least you have the motivation. All ambition has left me years ago.
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>>690671234
You are everything that is wrong with society. How fucking dare you. You have overstayed your welcome by 9 years. You could rent a room on minimum wage you useless cuck. Do that and leave your poor mom i peace. You deserve everything bad unless you begin contributing to society instead of being a worthless stoner leach.
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>>690696263
>does a little bit of work
>suddenly the world's most righteous man
Oh sure but before we write an epic on the scourge of laziness, perhaps we need to focus on on our own psychological shortcomings such as that egregious and insufferable crutch of narcissism you've got there.
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>>690697776

>I had friends coming 2 smoke green, drink, & watch the cavs/warriors game and they saw cops here.

That was on your main post, op. Correct if I'm mistaken.
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>>690671234
This is dialogue meant to come from a 15 year old. The fuck is wrong with you OP? 27? How the fuck did you blow 9 years...essentially your entire adult life?
Get a minimum wage job. Start there. Move out immediately and cut this bullshit you silly cuck.
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Lmao. This op is dumb as fuck. Reading through this arguement, all you make are excuses. You don't do anything to fix shit, and all you've actually accomplished, it seems, is to add to the shit you've fucked up.

You only smoke a few times a week? You know who doesn't do that? Fucking adults. Act like one.

You definetely haven't applied to over a hundred places, you liar.
I work for a plumbing construction company, and we've got more ex cons than we do people with clean records. You're looking for shit work, and you're putting in shit effort.

And the door you ripped off of your mothers hinges? You should be ashamed of yourself. To treat the woman who raised you, like that is fucked up. That's her house. She earned it. She worked hard to get what she has. And here comes this 27 year old brat throwing a temper tantrum and ripping doors off? You're lucky your mom didn't marry the kind of man mine did. If I would have ever disrespected her, or anyone like that, he would have beaten me unconscious.

Which frankly someone needs to do to you. Teach you a lesson

Quit lying to yourself and quit lying to the people around you. You want to get out of the house? Quit being a fucking leech and a liar. Quit smoking and do something with your life. Or don't. That's your fucking problem. But God help your mother for dealing with you as long as she has. You sound like a fucking man child.
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>>690698101
It's the feels guy in the corner at the party. I was wondering what he was doing on his phone.
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>>690698225
no you can't, not in my state.
min wage is only about 1400/month before taxes. 1200 after tax, lowest rent ive seen was 900 dollars for a basement bedroom with no bathroom.

I mean, you could, but you would have 200 dollars max after rent for everything else.

How do you expect someone to get ahead if they can't save anything and literally have to sacrifice on basic needs just to get by so people like you don't call them "the scum of society"

to afford my month to month, i need to be making at least 15$ an hour full-time.
~2000 after taxes,

-1300 for rent
-150 car insurance
-60ish for gas?
-50 cell phone
-300 for food?

after just those costs, that's 200 left every month. that's basically enough to pay for car maintenance and other costs like toiletries.
I wear contacts and glasses... ect.
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>>690699010
SIR YES SIR!
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Join the Army.

As a veteran, folks will thank you and stuff, even though a loser like you will probably just clean toilets.

At least you will stop being a momma's boy living at home..
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>>690698225
ANGRY FAGGOT IS ANGRY
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>>690698706
I don't personally like drinking and very rarely do it.

My friends like to drink on the weekends.

My mom is an off and on alcoholic + abuses her pain meds.

But regardless, i just don't like drinking.
I don't like the taste, i don't like the feeling generally unless I am dancing in a club or something, which i have only done a few times in my life.
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This motherfucker thinks he can just walk into a 15$ an hour job. That's outrageous. You have no fucking skills. You aren't even trying to save, because I'm pretty damn sure you're the type to blow money on stupid shit and nights out. You don't care about anyone but yourself and whether or not you have a good time. Stop lying to us op.
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Proved my fucking point. Doesn't have a job, but has time to go to clubs. Go fucking figure.
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>>690700524
Fuck yeah nigga, maybe you should have some fun and get the marble outta your mouth
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>>690699077
actually my grandfather bought her 2 houses, she burnt the first one down when she left food in the oven and left the house for hours before i was born.

My mom also worked at my grandfather's dealership as a secretary fucking off all the time, she eventually started drinking so much they had to fire their own single mother sister.

So she sold off her portion of my grandfather's business so she could retire early.
She has also dipped into the equity of this house.

She didn't do shit to have what she has.
My uncles have told me lots of things about her she would never admit to, like my grandfather paying taxes on our home until he died and my brothers refused to support her.


And yes i broke her door, she broke my door for the 5th time and threw a full water bottle at my face FOR DOING EXACTLY WHAT SHE ASKED but not getting the result she wanted.
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>>690699633
I live in California faggot. Don't lecture me on costs of living. 150 for insurance? Lol. Right. So clearly you've been in multiple accidents, likely drug related. Idiot. You cannot afford your own place. Rent a room in somebody's house faggot.
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>>690671234
>cant get a job to move out

stopped reading right there, cause you sound like a bitch
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>>690700976
STOP complaining about mommy!!!! Jesus fucking Christ anon. Get your own life! You are scum. Kill yourself.
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>>690700524
the last time i went to a club was my birthday 2 years ago and I was working 2 jobs at the time.

My brother and his gf forced me to go out because i literally have almost no friends and never go out, i mentioned i haven't done anything for my birthday in like 6 years so they took me out.

again, projecting and trying to put me into your scumbag box.
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>>690671234
There is no help for you op. The best solution for you is to an hero.
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>>690673367
Wait, I could had been an adventurer this whole time?
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>>690700976
I seriously don't know what to do guys. I want to move out, but in reality I just want to fuck my mom. She hates me. If I leave she'll have sex with other men again. I don't think I can handle that kind of rejection.
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>>690702394
Well this story just took an interesting turn. Post pics of mom.
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>>690671234
>Verbally abuses me
Top kek. You are one pathetic manchild.
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>one year from now. Op, makes another thread bitching because his mom broke his door again
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>>690701340
I have been in one accident, caused 500 dollars of damage to someone elses bumper.

I have speeding tickets from when i was younger, haven't gotten a ticket in almost 2 years.

I have a coupe and I live in NJ, what do yo want from me? car insurance is expensive out here for younger males.

I have no record and no charges ever.
I have been very low key and made sure cops didn't know i smoked.
I don't do anything illegal other than that.

why would i rent a room to live in someone else's home, that's literally retarded. I already have a room for the low cost of helping on some bills when i can, doing all the home cleaning her OCD/hoarding tendencies will allow me to, i cook and buy food for both of us, I do my own laundry, the only thing i don't do is pay rent to live on my own because i can't afford to.

I've tried getting into trades but it's always bullshit. No one wants a helper to teach skills, they want a low cost laborer to do their bullshit while simultaneously not training them with the intent of keeping them untrained as possible so they can't demand more pay or find a better job.
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>>690698262
Sure, lets focus on the shortcomings of one anonymous poster whos perfectly happy with the life hes built.


"hurr durr i want mune but dont want to work umm umm HEY FUCK YOU ANON, YOURE A SELF RIGHTEOUS PRICK"

*That sure did it, now i wait for the money to fall out from the sky*

Stop deflecting your own faliures and do something, you lazy fuck
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>>690703024
become a truck driver.

with your background, a company like SWIFT will hire you over the phone.

You won't get rich, but after a year you can make 60k+.

This is a solution that would also remove you from your mom and her home.
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>>690698262
If that angers you, youre probably fit the bill exactly: Lazy and you know it.
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>>690703707
you ever think about them?
think about the long comings? what is life, why do we exist? we werent born long ago, yesterday by the universes standards. we were born knowing nothing. so what is the purpose of this life?
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>>690671234
Go to school. Get a job. Stop being a loser.
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You should fuck your mom OP stop being a pussy and cream pie her already

Post results
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>>690703831
plus plenty of lot lizards.
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>>690671234
Go to a trade school in your area, get in an accelerated program for something that is in demand near you, 10 months of classes 3 days a week and some homework, and you'll walk out with a job that will start at $40,000 a year, which is about the same as a teacher makes

If you are relatively decent at talking to people, apply at furniture stores or used car lots as a sales person, furniture is easier but it depends on your population, but I started at 26 having never done any sales job, and I'm 10x more socially retarded than you, having had sex with my literal blood sister even to this day, if I can do it you can too

Car salesman make MASSIVE amounts of cash as long as you can just talk to people and be genuinely pleasant, they won't pay you unless you make money, so they have really nothing to lose by hiring you

Alternatively you could look into becoming an electrician, its a 4 year process but each step is like working another job, and you'll get paid good money each step of the way

Or if you are relatively smart, lookup to see if there's an American Income Life in your area and if they'll recruit you, it can be a difficult and hard investment, but if you really sell yourself on it and have no life for several weeks, you can rake in $4,000 a month in your first month selling life insurance

You could also just do a trade school for something like HVAC, which is extremely desirable these days, 10 month program and you can just work part time at mcdonald's or something to pay the monthly fees, get through your course, and make $50,000 a year when you are done

If absolutely no one can hire you, and you are used to being treated like shit, use both of those as an asset, and look around in your area for debt collection agencies who are hiring debt collectors, usually around $12-16 an hour plus commission, suffer through that until you are done with your trade school in 10 months

You can do it anon
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>>690704471
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Okay so, you bring other people into your mothers house, smoke pot, fuck chicks and don't work a day in your life but somehow you think you can be a disrespectful little faggot? Please. Kid grow up. I lived on my own when I was 17, life aint that tough.

Maybe you should start selling weed out of your mothers basement, you worthless piece of shit.
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>>690698262
Person A works for his income.
Person B does not, and expresses desire for more income but refusal to work.
Person A tells him to either suck it up and work, or stay not recieving handouts

HEY FUCK YOU YOU NARCISSIST, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO TELL ME ANYTHING DESPITE YOU DOING THE CORRECT THINGS AND BEING IN THE FAVORABLE SITUATION

YOUR POINT IS INVALID BECAUSE THAT HURTS
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>>690704587
I like you
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>>690704587

This fucked up anon knows what he's talking about. If you're half retarded and know absolutely nothing about how the world works, go to trade school.
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im like op only that I'm 31, no drug problems, and I live in Spain (+20% unemployment here)
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>>690704911
Hit, Nail, Head.
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>>690705126
Faggot. You're even worse.
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>>690705241
I disagree, but it doesn't matter. If by december I don't get a job I'm killing myself.

There are too much bad memories I cannot get rid to anyway so death will free me from everything.
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>>690704587
This, if you try all of these things you literally cannot fail anon, this sisterfucker is a cool guy who knows what's up
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>>690704911
You sell your time, you do not necessarily work.
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>>690705556
I almost got quads, but I didn't. This reflect a lot my real life.
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HAHA OP IS SUCH A FAGGOT
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>>690704840
I've never worked a day in my life?

I've had a job since i was 18, the only time I've had a gap in employment was the last year.

I've paid all of my own bills since i was 18, anytime i couldn't pay a bill and needed to borrow from my mom, she made sure she kept track and got it back from me.

more assumptions.
I am trapped in getting low skill jobs.
I apply to jobs that offer training all the time, call numbers on CL, etc.
I am never offered anything but the shit positions with no type of progression, or I am told there is opportunity and work my ass off, only to realize 6 months later that I have learned almost nothing new as far as transferable skills that will get me a better job, or that any type of promotion is just a carrot on a stick to get more out of me.

Yea, selling weed out of my house is a great idea, ya know, if I want my mom to get charged since i would have a large quantity in her home.
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>>690704587
this is your answer faggot OP
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>>690705556
That's even more pathetic. Your life isn't your past you fucking cry baby. Your identity is what you do from now into the future.

I fucking hate people who can't just move on. Find a hobby, learn to fucking be a normal human being for christ sakes. I used to smoke weed every day, I did some bad shit, fucked around on my girlfriend, weird childhood shit, whatever. But man, you gotta move forward, you're sitting in a perpetual fucking wet nappy, you need to stand the fuck up, brush yourself off and get out of that mentality.

Life isn't about getting a job anyways, it's about being happy. You obviously didn't go to college or the spanish equivilent, why not do that? Why not go and see what you can make of your life that isn't working at some half retarded monkey job.

You have no debilitating disease, you aren't on drugs, and you don't have a job. Gather up all of your shit and go out into the world, if you're willing to kill yourself then be willing to leave everything behind, your personality, your home, your comfort, to go and make something of yourself. Find your passion.

And fuck you.
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>>690705945
Now that Iread this I'm actually worse indeed...>>690705556
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>>690705945
Maybe you have to apply to "low skill jobs" because you have absolutely no skills. Go to fucking school, you still managed to read between the lines and not understand the sarcasm in the last sentence. Maybe you deserve the life you have. Go live on the street like the bum you are.
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>>690671234
"Verbally abused" fuckin man up and do something
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>>690705945
This is your answer OP, nothing else needs to be said
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>>690706316
I jack off enough that I can tolerate the situation
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>>690706019
Not op but holy fuck anon this is beautiful
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>>690704911

no one is refusing to work.
If i was on minimum wage, i would still need handouts from welfare or my mother to get by, so what point are you trying to make.

I'm simply suggesting I am looking for an entry level position with actual growth opportunity.

Should I go back to college full-time for 2 years and get my BA? Then I'm still a loser for 2 more years, and that doesn't assure me a job in my field. Being an accountant with no experience gets you 10$ an hour and 60 hour weeks for 4 months during tax season until you get let go.
So i'd have to still live at home while getting experience and getting my CPA's over another 1-2 years.... then I need to actually find a job to do that, and maybe i can move out when I am 32.

ORRR I could find a decent entry level position with growth opportunity and be out of my home in 6 months to a year.
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>>690706316
OP is stuck in a cycle of self pity and drug dependency, he does not listen to reason, he has not graduated high school and he probably believes in spirits or sometihng fucking pseudoscience related.
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>>690705945
Are you here for suggestions or to add to your ever growing list of excuses?

Honestly the most sickening part is i actually bet you believe your excuses.

Life isnt fair most of the time, but in glad this is one time it is. Id hate for you to win the lottery or be born into a rich family.

Either get off your ass or stay where you are and be a loser forever. You deserve it. Ha ha
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>>690706566
Dubs dont lie
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>>690671234
Nice pasta
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>>690704587
/thread
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>>690706528

If you're in school you aren't a loser, and you will be better off afterwards. This is like saying "fuck I'm thirsty, but if I walk over to the fridge I'll still be thirsty on the way over there, so I'll just sit here and feel bad that I'm thirsty."
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>>690706019
You don't know me.

I wanted to go to collegue but I was born with anxiety which I never treated due several reasons as not being even aware of it until very recently; my parents made my childhood very unstable, I got a job but the financial crisis came and we reached +20% unemployment here, all while dealing with bad experiences with a lot of issues.

I know refugees and such had a worse life but I compare myself with my surroundings and it sucks.

I have hobbies: music, improving my English, videogames, movies, TV series... It's not that I'm a cynical person.

But I find hard to recover economically and even if I did so I'm not sure if it's worth as I feel I'm too old and life isn't worth the hassle anymore.

Be derogatory with me, I don't care, it's the good of being myself at the moment, I don't get hurt anymore.
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Fuck off OP, read that post the sisterfucker made and respond to that. Everyone is linking back to it. Thats your answer.

You are ignoring it because i think youd rather wallow in self pity since all the suggestions that anon made require you to get off your ass.

Stop fucking posting until you consider it. Your answer is right. Fucking. There.
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>>690706823

Hobbies: music (no monetary value) improving english (some monetary value) video games (no monetary value) movies (no monetary value) tv series (no monetary value)

From this I gather that you're stuck in some self perpetuating pity mobile and you're going to sit there until you die. In the life span of 70 years you think your 30 years is too old and you're willing to give up, go for it. If I can't motivate you nobody can.

Why not learn science? Maths? Anything. Why just sit around watching tv and feeling bad for yourself. Go back to school. Go get some drugs for your anxiety..
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>>690671234
Not good.
It's a nest of disorders - shame based family. You need psychological help. But since you probably can't afford it, here is the road:
1. Start exercising. Use a couch to 5k program and get moving. You will be fit in about 3 months. It will change your mindset and make you more attractive to women.
2. Buy and read John Bradshaw "Healing the shame that binds us". This is important.
3. Take up a class in the local College/School. Start small - something technical like SQL database management. In one year you can get core skills that will make you more employable.

And finally 4. Stop feeling sorry for yourself. It's not healthy.
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>>690671234
Get a job you bum!!! Quit caring about what mommy and daddy say go out ther and work hard and pay for your own life you pansy ass. No one is going to feed you grapes and fan you in this life. I worked hard since I was 13 when you were learning how to pick your pepper in an factory breathing asbestos composite dust for 9$/hr and a convenience store for 8.80 I used that to pay my way through university of phoenix trades program, bought my own house, truck you name it. There's no excuse for your lazy millennial ass always whining about the bad world GET A JOB!!!!!!! GET A GOD DAMNED JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>690673149
same here anon, except I'm 20. I've had 2 jobs and neither of them can be references because I'm a fucktard who didn't give notice I just got fed up and quit. Currently seeking employment right now it's fucking stressful. Thankfully I have parents who won't break my shit or kick me out though.
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This thread is full of people wanting pity and not being able to face the fact that it's all in their own head, and people trying to motivate those people to no avail.
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>>690707222
This is so easy to say. Going back to school at 31yo requires in a nation with +20% of unemployment and without a bit of monetary support is harder than you think.

I think you must be American, I hope you guys never have to go to a situation as ours.

I had my job in 2008 and I was "happy".

Anyway, fuck you, you just don't know me.
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>>690707605
i don't know why my english sucks so much when i post in 4chan lol
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>>690706823
Holy fuck you are pathetic, I literally fuck my sister and didn't get off my ass until I was 29 and I think you are pathetic, I'm not even interested in helping you anymore, you come here to whine and bitch about how your life is shit, and you can't even invest any effort into improving it

Hobbies are for children and those who have earned them, you haven't earned them so you are still a child

And anxiety is a feeling, not a fucking disability, I worked a full-time job, a part-time job, and went to a tradeschool, one job being a debt collector where I got screamed at and threatened everyday, the other job 100% commission where I worked 16 hour days on weekends and 10 hour days after my 8 hours of my fulltime job was over, and I had to balance 3 classes a week of 9am-1:30pm and homework on top of it for almost a whole year

No help, no family, if I left either job I'd have been homeless with a $25,000 student loan wasted because I couldn't pay the fees to finish my classes, oh but you gotta have your fucking hobbies because you just can't handle not having them for a brief period of fucking time while you sort your shit out

You are a fucking waste of life, go to Sweden or Germany or some shit and get your welfare and live like the rat you are, you don't deserve the life you've been given, you are pathetic
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>>690707561
Everyone has been there. I've had stints where I just fucked off out of jobs.
>work at a factory making muffin cups
>finish high school
>worked at a call center.
>leave.
>throw it on my resume.
>get a job at a retail store
>work there for a year
>leave
>work at a hotel
>leave
>work at a casino making 20 dollars an hour

Shit goes up and up. You'll figure it out. I'm going to school in the fall for engineering.
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>>690707605
Keep crying you pathetic loser.

"it's too hard"

But whats worse? Hardship or your current situation.

Anyways, I've given up on you.
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>>690707830
>anxiety is a feeling not a disability

You are clearly an ignorant person, there you lost all the credibility.

You just want to put down others you know nothing about to feel better about yourself. You're full of assumptions about me.

Good luck with that.
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>>690704587
>fucks his sister
>has his life together more than me

f-fuck
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>>690707605

We do know that you're a piece of shit who keeps making up excuses.

Every single response from you is an excuse, you're not taking any advice and just disregard every single of the anons post.

>b-but... i-it's my mom fault!

Fuck off, op. Just kill yourself
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>>690707830
I love you.
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>>690708035
>I've given up on you.

Oh, ok. You guys just love to talk from compfy chairs and judge people with little info.
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>>690707561
same poster, just feel like adding this. I have hyperhidrosis (severe underarm sweating) and it puts me in such a bad place. Imagine sitting still, nothing going on at all, and your underarms are just soaked, sweat dripping down the side of your torso every 15 seconds. I've tried anxiety medicines, only made it harder to sleep. I refuse to become a xanax addict, and marijuana helps my sweating a lot but I don't smoke consistently, sometimes daily for months and other times not for 2-3 months. If my shirts didn't become soaked while I worked I feel like I wouldn't hate working as much. Can;t afford botox or any surgery because insurance won't cover it. Relatively healthy too, and by that I mean I'm not obese or anything, Fuckin blows man,
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>>690708078
Hahahahhahahahahahahahahhaahahhaahhahahahahaahhahhahahahaahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahahah

fuck your cunt sissyboy.
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>>690708078
You are a pussy, no assumptions required, all you do is make excuses and whine, and no, anxiety DISORDER is a fucking disorder, you are just pathetic and a loser, here's your fucking answer >>690704587 that everyone is relinking you too, give me an excuse for every single one of these, I know you have an excuse for them all
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>>690708035
>Anyways, I've given up on you.
But you didn't give me the chance to say something
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>>690708270
I've gathered all of your info, you won't do anything to make your life better. You just sit there saying it's all too hard.
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>>690708251
What, you are confusing me with OP. I'm not OP lol I just happened to post here too.
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>>690708435
Again, I'm not op, you are pretty stupid. OP gave info different from mine.
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>>690708358
>voluntarily introduces psychosomatic homosexual fantasies
gj
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>>690708078
>there you lost all the credibility.

...except that part where anon literally fed you like 100 different solutions to your being a jobless loser?
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>>690707851
Damn for me its been
>Shitty pizza restaraunt with my bitch sister in law
>leave
>Wal-Mart for a week
>leave
>thrift store for 9 months
>leave
>Call center, I got sick and basically couldn't finish training.
>Back to Wal-Mart
>2 months, leave
I sure hope so man, I'm just going to keep trying, consistency is the way to get a job. Thanks anon.
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We need ID's back. Or perhaps I shouldn't have told my case here beacuse people clearly mixed things up. Sorry OP lol
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>>690708309
It used to be like that for me. Hang in their anon. It dropped at 25 for me. Mostly because I shave my armpits and use the white old spice deodorant.

>Inb4 faggot shaves his underarms

Better than a pool of sweat.
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>>690708445
Listen, I've never been unemployed. Why is that? In my country the unemployment rate is worse than yours.

What makes me different from you? Why is it that I am able to self direct myself towards my goals? Why can I be so happy and content with my life and finish what I start?

Can we just call this what it is. You have anxiety. That's your excuse. You have a mental imbalance and you think this means that you can't do normal things. 80% of people in your country are employed. You're not somebody in your country who is part of a majority, you're the minority of the unemployed in your country. It's sad that you can't see that self direction is key, that you need to push yourself beyond what you know. You will always be like this. You probably will never consider taking a coursera course or applying to a college. You'll never be anything. You'll always be this. This is your past present and your future. You made it this way. You can't blame me, your mother, or your circumstances. You are your circumstances. Sorry.
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>>690708743
Seems like we can't do anything in this society besides serve the jews
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>>690708703
Again, I'm not op, he did not give me 100 different solutions. He just insulted me and gave me options not viable in the nation I'm living (IM NOT OP).

Gosh. y so dense.
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>>690672654
If he lives in Canada they only hire Filipinas over here. No shit I'm not even fucking slightly exaggerating it's at 99% in all fast food.
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>>690704587
Damn you sick fuck, this is great advice
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>>690707238
So you were making the wages I am offered now... what? 2 decades and 80% inflation ago?
9$ when you made that was probably the equivalent of 20 today.

and telling me to just go out there and everything will work out?

lmao baby boomers are such retards, do you even economy?

I worked ups for years breathing in dirt and dust, had to clean dirt boogers out of my nose every night.
Tried to become a driver and supervisor there and never got the opportunity after 3.5 years.
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Go be a dish not for the airforce, fucking fagget
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>>690708615
>>690708615
Thanks.
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>>690709027
This is true and theyre slack as fuck
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>>690709145
see >>690704587
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>>690709145
Nose picking faggot.
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>>690708873
I've dealt with it since I was 14, I'm 20 now. It's the most irritating thing, just because there's no reason for my shirt to be soaked in sweat. Only my underarms too. I've shaved my armpits a few times but it doesn't seem to help. I've tried stuff like certain-dri and no positive results. Hopefully it'll just drop sometime like you said. Just really feels like something that no one should have to deal with.
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>>690709430
Sweaty faggot.
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>>690709329
Come on now a niggas gotta clean the boogers out
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>>690707830
I'll never understand why a lot of people in 4chan tell their elaborated stories (whether true or imaginary) to judge someone out of two posts (he wasn't op). You're life's so amazing and you're so strong now but you bother to do all that irrelevant stuff.

I guess you just get joy out of being an asshole.
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>>690684056
You are retarded. 20k is nothing. I live in Ohio, if you want to live somewhere that's not shit tier Cleveland section 8 type shit it's $500 for a single bedroom + utlities. Add in food ($300 a month), insurance, gas (possibly a car payment and or student loans), health insurance, internet and a phone that isn't shit. You may be able to live but just pray nothing bad happens or breaks because you are fucked than.
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>>690709973
>TALKING SHIT ABOUT DA LAND
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>>690673766
>Adult money
Lol nigga u aint an adult thats why your not making adult money, your a man child, your attitude proves it. People already gave you solid advice and your getting defensive about ut, man the fuck up and work at Mcs you piece of shit damn.

Work up the ladder of life dipshit thats how you make "adult money". Take it or leave it
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>>690707830
This guy... lmfao you are one of the more ridiculous ones i've seen.

so you worked 18 hours a day during the week, 16 hours on weekends, had 4 hours of classes 3 times a week + homework....

if you worked 18 hours on weekdays, and had 4 hours of classes, you have 2 hours left in the day to get back to your first job...

so you expect me to genuinely believe you weren't sleeping at least 4 days a week?

fucking lol, maybe if your job was a security guard and you slept/did homework half of your shifts.
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>>690709954
Italianfag here.

I think you must understand this forum is based on the USA. They have a lot of opportunities and cannot conceive our shit here.

Good luck.
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>>690709973
Found the commie.
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>>690710285
Either shit or get off the pot
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>>690703024
You can't blame yourself. Two things are at play feminism and illegals. Women are taking all the professional jobs while being under qualified in the process. Men as you know are human debre; This is now the new standard of affairs
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>>690710389
Italian girls sometimes have fantastic asses
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>>690709973
$300 a month for food. Learn to fucking cook, you moron bitch. Also "a phone that isn't shit" isn't a fucking necessity, you goddamn moron. Learn the difference between shit you need and shit you want and your financial situation will look a lot better. Also you won't seem so fucking stupid. You'll still be fucking stupid, but it won't be as obvious. Cunt.
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>>690709430
I use this: http://oldspice.com/en-us/content/swagger-red-zone-antiperspirant-invisible-solid

Only thing that works. Sweating is natural, but this stops the excess. Like I said, 29 now. The worst stopped when I started shaving and using that.
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>>690710305
Not the guy you're writing to.

But I worked at a hotel while doing school.

I worked the night shift and would do all of my homework and sleep 4 hours of the shift in the back room on the floor. I only ended up doing 1 hour of actual work a night.
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>>690675893
Sometimes people need a harsh reality check to wake them the fuck up. That's what it is.
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>>690710916
I did no less than 5 jobs simultaneously. I put in 300hour weeks and raised a kid, no 5 kids with no daycare or nanny. Don't tell me about hard work you pathetic little bitch. I own no less than 8 properties, 3 residential and the rest investment and I did it all single-handed by myself.
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>>690671234
Geez, and I thought I fucked up my life.
Thanks for making me want to do something with my life, and not end up like you.
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>>690710916
Gotta love America. You guys get jobs as that.

Here in Spain you are caugh working just one hour during your night shift and you're fired. If you have spare time you are ordered to clean or do whatever else as standing in the entrance.
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>>690710826
I've gone through so many antiperspirants I have an old stick of this stuff in my dresser. Do you apply it at night or anything? Something else I notice, I sweat a lot more after a shower.
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Collector job 8am-5pm monday-friday

School 6pm-10:30pm tues, wed, thurs

Second job weekends for 16 hours a day, mondays and fridays 12 hours

If I have no nomework on tues, wed, or thurs, I get off work and go to my 2nd job until 10:30pm

I guess its hard to believe someone else can do something when you are so much of a pussy you can't even believe in yourself
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>>690711427
>I put in 300hour weeks
There's only 168 hours in a week you fag
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>>690711681
you said you worked 10 hour days after your fulltime job. 10+8 (assuming no lunch lol) 18 hours.
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>>690711743
He lives in Sweden and meant 30 hour work weeks.
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>>690671234
OP i feel you 100%. going through the exact same thing. no job will call me back. even when i follow up, they just brush me off by telling me to wait for a call.

instead of shoprite though, my mom was up my ass about applying at whole foods. literally one of the most competitive jobs to get in the city, and its a shit job that only offers part time which means even if i got it, id stil be exactly where i am now. oh btw, i DO have a job already, but they wont give me anything more than part time hours, so im pretty much stuck living with my mom unable to save any money whatsoever to get a car or new place to live. i apply like a motherfuck to countless jobs, and just get 0 back. all of my friends with good jobs got their jobs through hookups/friends. i dont know a single successful person that got successful on their own

>>690708901
80% of americans are not employed ROFL. bro, literally 10% just documented are unemployed in every state. theres millions of people the system either cant account for or intentionally mismarks as employed just to fudge the numbers so they look like were doing much better than we are. also, working under 20 hours a week is considered legally unemployed, and a massive fucking portion of the country is unable to find full time work right now

>>690706528
yup. pretty much all of this. all minimum wage jobs no longer offer full time hours, so the most you can make is 300-400 for 2 weeks worth of work, and the 400 is being generous assuming you suck your bosses dick. getting legit wage paying entry level work is becoming near impossible due to the ridiculous amount of competition/overpopulation. people who get free rides just dont understand how fucking hard it is when you have nothing, noone, and no connections.


granted, OP is making excuses for alot of things, but there are some things that you just cannot control. at some point you just have to say fuck the system and start selling drugs till you can find a reasonable job
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>>690711491
Don't get caught. I worked alone. It helped get my shit done.
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>>690711681
I plant food in fields so your pussy ass can eat while you call poor desperate single mothers and endebted seniors and psychologically manipulate them into paying- at any detriment to themselves- the scrap accounts purchased at discount from Jews you work for, that have already discharged such debts. You are the scum of the earth. Get a real job, you piece of shit.
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