ITT we post things that kill less Americans per year than hammers. hammers get about 500 Americans per year
pic realted
>>690490552
Hammers are dangerous. Do you think the framers intended high-capacity air hammers to be legal? Certainly not!
>>690490552
what kind of hammer are we talking about here? claw hammers, ball-peen hammers, framing hammers?
Cows kill 22 people on average per year in the US.
Most probably on Wal Mart's Black Friday sales.
>>690490552
>>690490552
The one thread one /b/ I can't spam my dick pics...
>>690491009
keked
>>690490552
ITT: crrybaby guntard trying to strawman argument his way out of answering for his part in making it more difficult to acquire sinus medication than a fucking firearm capable of mowing down 50 people.
>>690490552
>>690490552
Ar 15 is a weapon of war.It literally means Assault Rifle. Why do you need a semi automatic assault rifle that can shoot hundreds if bullets in less than 1 minute and create mass death and carnage? You only need a bolt action for deer hunting
>>690491992
sorry I live in a nation of 320 million, 400 is a tiny number. you wan ban something that kills a shit ton of people alcohol kills 88,000 Americans per year
>>690491992
virginia tech killed 33 with a handgun, your point cuckold?
>>690492338
AR=armalite, not assault rifle.
>>690492338
it means armalite rifle dude
Boobs
>>690492338
>>690491992
>>690492338
but how will I fend off that sand niggers and roof koreanpervate
Just 18 people in the U.S in 2015.
Way more died on the Toilet.
So go ahead kids. Play outside in an electrical storm, you really are going to be ok.
Anyone who is anti gun should leave /b/.
While guns are scary what you all should worry about is bombs which is what terrorists who can't get guns use.
>>690492338
>>690492338
sorry ar is armalite and Sturmgewehr is where the word assault rifle came from.
so that is why I reordered me reproduction Sturmgewehr. get yours here
https://www.hmgunworks.com/product/hmg-sturmgewehr-standard-length-223/
>>690490552
>hammers get about 500 Americans per year
>kill less Americans per year than hammers
>posts a picture of a fire-arm
You do realize that us has 15.000 fire-arm related deaths per year on average?
>because 500 > 15.000
>>690492449
>>690492468
>>690492819
irrelevant to the question
>>690492750
>trying to be anti gun by comparing getting shot to be struck by lighting
>not knowing people say "x is less likely than being struck by lighting" to describe unlikely things
>being this retarded
mfw
>>690492958
>15.000
> Not realizing this means 15 for Americans unfamiliar with your communist dot usage.
>>690492958
rifles kill 400 americans per year
op posted a rifle
libtards want to ban "assault rifles"
>>690493182
>>690493274
why rifles in particular?
>>690493451
libtards keep wanting to ban a bunch of rifles
>>690493151
> " we post things that kill less Americans per year than hammers"
That is the Question.
You're the tard going off on a tangent about being anti-gun.
Fuck, any excuse for a gun nutter to express his butt-hurts.....
>>690492468
>>690492338
The Armalite base was designed for the military and later became the M-16.The designed never intended it to be a civilian weapon and would have been mortified to see what it's become in the US, according to his closest relatives.
The Armalite set is notoriously shit for hunting and sport. It's a specialized weapon for pushing back insurgents in a group. In other words, it was designed for the express purpose of targeting and firing on multiple human targets.
>>690490552
>hammers get about 500 Americans per year
i lol'd
try harder
Too bad we can't post a muslim
>>690493274
Stop bitching about the term. You know who coined it? Ronald fucking Raygun. So cry harder. The point is that it has been the go-to weapon for mass shootings and even terrorist training videos outline how easy it is to get powerful guns in the US and recommend doing so when planning attacks.
>>690490552
I think only a few ppl have died from a. Fp45
>>690493372
Americans use commas to separate groupings, and dot to separate the fractional portions.
As god, jesus, and the other founding fathers said to do in the constitution.
>>690493969
im not bitching about the term im just saying any and all rifles including ones that would be banned in assault weapons ban only kill 400 Americans a year.
>>690492958
>15.000 fire-arm related deaths per year on average
Mostly nig nogs.
>>690492338
>shoot hundreds if bullets in less than 1 minute and create mass death and carnage?
>trying THIS hard
There's your (You)
>>690491992
> fucking firearm capable of mowing down 50 people.
You can also do that with nearly every other semi auto though
>>690494244
>only 400
>>690494342
yes only 400. we got 318 million Americans.
so that is .00013% of the population
>>690494115
>trying this hard
Fifteen people caught Yersinia pestis (Black Plague) in the U.S in 2015. Four died.
>>690491992
thats a nice straw man you have there anon
>>690494980
BAN THE PLAGUE
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>>690490552
35 OP's die a year from choking on dick.
>>690494640
1) you are a stinking frenchman
2) your lack of zeal is why america has had to pull you stinking frenchmen through all five world wars
3) you are a stinking frenchman
We have started war after war for you frenchies to have a chance to recoup your honor, and the best you can do is more of that insufferable longbread of yours. Slice your loaves like an american, son.
>>690493665
lolololol This guy thinks he knows what hes talking about
>>690495395
they made a civilian gun from the get go it had no forward assist and was smi auto
>>690490552
Nuclear weapons.
They kill literally 0 people per year, globally. Must mean they're pretty safe.
I'm not a retarded anti-gun, anti-second amendment person, but at least learn how to logic, faggot.
>>690493665
Eugene Stoner's kid is a whiny little bitch who knew nothing of his father's wishes. He's simply using his connection to push an agenda because his father spent more time with the rifles than his pathetic excuse of a son.
>>690495300
nice b8 m8, but seriously... Is your life so shitty that you have to attempt to troll on 4chan?
>>690491992
Because fuck you, there's no reason to make it harder than it already is. Anyone who follows the law goes through a background check, and may be subject to a waiting period.
People who don't give a fuck about following the law don't have to go through a background check because they're fucking criminals, and that's the way it'll always be.
>>690490552
31000 per year. you're an idiot
>>690493665
But that's wrong. That's all wrong.
Yes, it was designed to be a military rifle(They made it to gain a lucrative military contract, big surprise), but they sold it to the civilian market as the 'Colt Sporter' from day fucking one.
>>690496355
rifles kill less than 400
Health food
>>690496280
Fucking this how many Fucking times does this need to be said Fucking hell
>>690496280
>no reason to make it harder
No. FUCK YOU.
The Orlando shooting was 100% preventable and there is blood on the hands of the NRA and GOP for it.
>no reason
Except hundreds of inocent civilian lives you piece of shit.
Yes I mad. You are a fucking retard.
>>690496355
60% are suicides
3%a are accidental
4% are justified, such as police and self defense shootings.
33% are homicides
HOWEVER
80% of those homicides are gang related
That leaves approximately 1800 TOTAL firearm homicides when adjusted. So as long as you're not affiliated with a gang, not committing a crime, nor contemplating suicide, you have approximately a .000085% chance of being killed by ANY firearm.
It's a suicide and nigger problem we have, not a gun problem.
>>690496894
It can be repeated over and over again yet terrified of life libtards will never understand
>>690492338
>hundreds of bullets per minute
>>690497142
It can be repeated over and over but it will never be a valid argument.
>fixed
>>690496894
I read that in Ralph Fiennes' voice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3Z_4FauhOU
>>690497039
Omar suckalottadingdong Mateen could have easily used pipe bombs using black powder or hell even Acetone Peroxide, ISIS's explosive of choice. It's so simple a sandnigger could manufacture it. All he had to do was walk into the crowd and detonate a bomb belt and he would've killed just as many if not more.
>>690497039
How exactly was it preventable? Please, by all means.
>inb4 HURR DURR BAN ALL GUNS
lol.
>>690493665
right so all them guys hunting coyotes and feral pigs with em are wrong and the armchair marksman is right?
>>690497271
In semiauto and an unregulated magazine, it can fire about 60 shots in a minute. That's still way too much firepower for the average brainless American civilian.
The AR-15 and all the other variations of the Armalite design HAVE no useful purpose. They are weapons of war for killing groups of people.
>Shit for hunting
>Shit for sport shooting
>Shit for home protection
So what exactly is left?
What do you need a gladius for, Romanfats?
If your house gets robbed, just call the lictor's guild or use your scutum to fend off the attack.
No Roman citizen actually needs a gladius. If push came to shove, what, are you and your untrained barbarian slaves going to defeat 10 legions by yourselves?
What next, should you have the right to own a ballista? No Roman citizen should need more than a pugio to defend himself in his home. You're just overcompensating for your short stature and plebian birth.
>>690494042
Goddamn Liberator pistol.
I'm shocked the french fries managed to clap a single Wehrmacht with this shit pistol
>>690497626
The perception of hunting in America is that deer hunting is all we do over here. Nevermind the fact that tons of people live in rural areas where Coyotes and hogs present a pretty common problem. Also, when hiking I've run into a bear on more than one occasion, but thankfully have never had to shoot one.
>>690497643
>HAVE no useful purpose.
Irrelevant. They are legal, and I can own them, therefore I will own them if I want to. I don't have to justify my "need" to anyone. I'll wallpaper my house with AR15s if I want to.
>>690497917
>mfw people think soldiers are using AR15s
>>690497643
They're excellent for hunting. See >>690497964
They're incredibly popular for sport shooting, as a matter of fact they're the most popular sporting rifle in the US right now.
They're also good for home protection once you get the proper ammunition for it.
>>690497815
Well the trick is to put one well placed .45 into them as covertly as possible, then steal their rifle/submachine gun and haul ass away from the scene. They weren't meant as front line combat weapons.
>>690492750
I play outside in scattered thunderstorm showers and I have never been struck by lightning.
>>690498119
You have exactly 15 seconds to educate me on why this weapon is "shit" for hunting.
>>690497041
This
>>690497643
lol those 60 round mags are already as regulated as your trying to say the rifle should be. you think you just pop over to the silencer and machine gun store and grab a 60 round mag and some dynamite?
>>690498097
they basically are. The M-16 is the military name for AR-15. The differnce being M-16 can go full-auto.
>>690498245
was for >>690497643
schedule 1 "controlled substance" , hundreds of thousands in prison for its production and distribution - last years death toll : zero.
>>690498148
>>690497643
>Shit for hunting
.223 is an excellent mid-range varmit round capable of zipping groundhogs at 500 yards like there's no tomorrow. Coyotes shiver in fear of this round. Feral hogs drop like a sack of potatoes when you plug them between the eyes.
>Shit for sport shooting
3 gun competition. they're accurate out to 600 meters and beyond if using heavier ammo. There are some guys obsessed with squeezing their groups tighter and tighter to the point where I've seen AR's shoot 1/4 groups at 100 meters. They're very accurate
>Shit for home defense
They're not shit, just not for everyone. Bad for apartments, practically required and tailor made for ranch houses. With the proper ammunition and AR-15 makes an excellent home defense weapon.
>>690497778
I read scutum as scrotum
>>690498318
no it cant faggot. that gun is something else and i vaguely remember from ACTUALLY BEING IN THE FUCKING MILITARY that only air force sf uses full auto ar style rifles.
>>690498337
No problem famalamadingdong.
>>690493665
See pic related, and this post >>690496457
>>690498381
>first picture is accurate
>second picture is strawman
fantastic
btw, I can do that too:
I bet you think that government takeover is literally impossible and THE STATE(tm) will always be your sworn protector. Just like it protected New York, Newtown, Aurora, Orlando, Oregon, Columbine, Virginia Tech, and South Carolina
>>690492958
>15.000 deaths
>significant figures dude, you don't need those zeros after the decimal
>15 deaths
>15 deaths isn't even that much
>500 < 15
500 > 15 fixed
>>690499023
>>690498381
Actually, scratch that. The first picture isn't fucking accurate at all. The 2nd amendment says jack shit about invasion.
>>690492468
>AR=armalite, not assault rifle.
>armalite
Arma
Lite
That would be AL you fuckface
>>690491752
lol'd
>>690490552
>less
*fewer
nice grammar, fag. conservatives like you are usually dumb animals. Did you even go to school?
>>690497039
Islam is the reason why that shooting happening, explain how Paris happened you fucking retard.
>>690499355
Being this fucking stupid. The A is armalite. Take a fucking guess what the R stands for.
>>690499355
theres a standup comedy bit about words that are abbreviated thst way but its just out of reach in my memory. >u dum.
>>690499535
>>690496355
32,000 by cars, your point is?
>>690497964
Haha! This anon just made a good point!
WE HAVE WILD GODDAMN BEARS OVER HERE!
Your country forgot what dangerous wild animals are all about. You know what they're about? Fucking you up and stealing your goddamn shit!
>mfw bears are forest niggers
>mfw both sneak in at night and try to eat your chicken and punch you in the face
>mfw I'd rather ban niggers and hold onto the bears
>>690490651
>framers
>unintentional pun on construction work
>>690497039
Why can't you blame the psychopath murder for being a psychopath murder? It's almost as if you have some kind of point of view that you will do anything to keep afloat, even if it means denying common sense. When someone murders someone, most of us tend to blame the murderer ya know.
>>690492958
Actually gun related homicide tends to float between 9,000 and 11,000, the vast majority of that are done by pistols, by vast majority I mean like 8000-9000 deaths are done by them. Rifles altogether, this includes rifles like the AR15 and AK47, hunting rifles, battle rifles, single shot rifles, etc make up less than 400.
>>690494980
Globally in 2013 there were about 750 documented cases which resulted in 126 deaths.
>>690500033
How many by bears compared to niggers?
Abolish the second amendment! Fuck all of you pussy boys who have baby penises.
I live in a rural area with a population density of .75 people per sq. mi. We have a modest herd of sheep that we tend to. It's not "the family business" or anything, but it's money. With sheep comes wolves. And I use one of these AR15s to protect my herd. Please inform me more about why I'm doing it wrong and how this AR15 that's been getting the job done for about 10 years now is actually not getting the job done. Look, we don't come down there to starbucks and tell you faggots how to sip your chai lattes, so just keep your shit to yourself.
>>690491992
>Guns are a tool, only purpose is to kill and maim
>Hammers are meant to be used as a tool for creation
>Tool for creating kills more than tool for killing
explain that
>>690500270
Better yet, bring a goddamn wolf to Starbucks!
>>690500250
>>690500285
>implying killing is ALWAYS a very very evil thing and is never necessary.
It's almost like you have no idea why the 2nd amendment even exists.
>>690500430
Ha! Pocahontas strikes again!
No offense to Pocahontas of course.
>>690500573
Nice anon
>>690500033
maybe they should ban tec 9s and mac 10s in chicago. then maybe a nigger wouldnt pull one out and shoot a rival gangmembers kid every single day. nah lets go after the varmint gun our soldiers use.
>>690500573
That's what I'm saying! We gotta get the bears to attack niggers and get the wolves to start stalking hipsters at Starbucks!
>>690491992
Or, you know, maybe so every faggot like yourself can make meth.
I know you dont like it cause its cutting into your stash, but try and see the big picture
>>690500650
Kek
>>690500650
Using this limey's logic, we should also change the first amendment. It was devised with newspapers, pamphlets, and the weeks it took for news to cross the Atlantic. They did think about the internet, radio, or facebook.
>>690490552
>If I choose only one type of gun it'll make my argument look sound
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34996604
nice nice nice
>>690497370
Omar had been on terrorist watch lists but thanks to the NRA, people on said list can still buy a gun. Because fuck logic!
Omar went to a gun shop and was denied the right to purchase an AR-15. That gun dealer reported him too.
Because of shit-tier gun laws of the REPUBLITARD legislature, he was then able to go to ANOTHER gun shop and buy his AR variant and a handful of extra hi-cap magazines.
Both the GOP and the NRA completely dropped the ball here and allowed a 50kill, 53 wounded mass shooting to occur.
Food for thought:
IF Omar had does this in California, he'd have had to use 10-round magazines that are TOOL locked. He'd have been able to kill MAYBE 15-20 people before having to wait about 20 seconds to reload a new mag with the tool. In that time the patrons or cops could have taken him out.
>>690500285
In one word?
>availability
Back to school, faggot.
>>690500858
Hey! Maybe we need to focus on a bear/wolf hybrid, fuel it with meth, and help it acquire a taste for niggers!
>>690501038
>Taking away someone's rights without due process.
Go read on how the terror watchlist works before you try to argue the subject, you ignorant fuck.
>>690498097
They are you retard. Theirs just have select fire with auto enabled. it's the SAME GODDAMNED GUN though.
>>690500975
17 people in those towers you complete fucking retard? how many killed by alqaeda in afghanastan? how many in carbombs in baghdad? how many in fucking benghazi. wipe your drool off your chin faggot. how many at ft hood? where did you even get that fucking chart sjw camp? did yku get a merit badge for cucking?
>>690501231
>>690501038
this is why gun ownership should be a privilege, not a right
>>690490552
Bad hammer! Stop killing people! We should place restrictions on these things! They are out of control!
>>690498148
Same faggot, same non-sequitur troll macros, different threads.
>>690491992
>>690498301
I was actually assuming 2x 30 round mags in the standard layout.
>>690501038
OR Omar would've done the same fucking thing the San Bernadino muslims did and ILLEGALLY modified his rifle. Laws matter not to criminals.
>>690495395
Actually he does. You're the dumb shit.
>>690501416
>First ten amendments being called the bill of rights
No, you are actually factually incorrect. I don't need anyone's permission to own a gun. The government serves the fucking people, not the other way around. It is a natural born right.
"Those who give up liberty for security deserve neither."
-Benjamin Franklin
He's talking to you, faggot.
>>690501377
hmm. know how to read a graph? see that large spike in 2001? Ohhhh when did 9/11 occur? OHHH WAS IT 2001?????????? also the reason the line is so flat is because it's tiny compared to the scale, so any fluctuation from year to year is minuscule
and frankly the sand niggers can keep their sectarian violence in their own backward countries
>>690501038
>Because fuck logic!
You mean 'fuck due process', right? In order to have your constitutional rights stripped from you, you have to be convicted of a crime. We have that whole 'innocent until proven guilty' thing, remember? Funny enough, a 'RETHUGLICAN' suggested that we add people on FBI watch lists to the NCIS(background check database), and every time they purchase one, the FBI is alerted. This was shot down by the Dems.
>hi-cap magazines
He didn't have hi capacity magazines, he had standard, 30 round magazines. 30 rounds has been the standard since the STANAG magazine's inception in the 1960s.
The NRA and GOP had nothing to do with some towelhead nutjob shooting up some faggots because he was a closet homo and couldn't come out or else his taliban-affiliated father would probably have stoned him to death in their backyard.
Actually, you can easily get 30 round magazines in California, and it's the easiest thing ever to take off a 'bullet button' and just use the magazine release like normal. Something tells me if he's on a murderous rampage, he doesn't care about breaking a magazine capacity or bullet button law along the way.
>>690498366
It's a fucking plant. You grow it and that's it.
guns are just a tiny bit harder to produce plus the weigh a fuckton in cargo.
This argument is 100% retarded. You cannot compare the availability of illicit drugs on the streets to the prospect of illegally manufactured guns.
>>690501416
Fucking statist. I bet you're the same person that call cops pigs yet the second something bad happens you don't hesitate to call them.
>>690499006
They can market it for sport. It's still shit for it and we all know what people are REALLY buying them for.
>hurr diurr gubmint coming fer muh gunz. Gots to have muh AR-15 to stops em!
>>690499605
Rotoscope?
>>690501707
This 'bill' was written when people had muskets that took 20 seconds to load, roughly 350 years ago.
Your views on gun control depend on where you're born, but using polemics like that make you no better than a preaching relifag.
It remains a fact that my country hasn't and won't ever see the likes of an Orlando, FL shooting, Columbine shooting or Virginia Tech.
Feels good not to risk getting shot on a daily basis.
>>690501101
this
many times this
how can we make it target only niggers though
>>690501801
He mentions the GOP and the NRA, but he conveniently omits the liberal ACLU. They too are against watch lists which sidesteps due process.
>>690501800
doesnt look like they can. and k i didnt see the towers o. there but its still literally thousands every year. i see you convenientls disregarded my examples. an american in another country is no longer an american? and i wholeheartedly consider cartels literal terrorists, as they are using terror to force compliance.
>>690492423
You actually think only 400 Amerifats die in Burgerland every year from guns? Nigger there were probably 400 gun deaths this weekend alone.
>>690499912
I do. Of course he's to blame primarily. But should he have had such an easy time procuring a weapon of mass killing?
There's a psycho walking around the neighborhood. I'm going to go hand him a semiautomatic death machine!
>NRA logic
>>690493547
Go fuck your sister faggot
>>690502664
Read the thread. 400 people die from RIFLES per year, which is what OP posted a picture of.
>>690500430
When, you piece of shit.
>USMC Drone #763 then turns your retarded ass into a smear on the earth.
Repeat for all militant, anti-government guntards.
>>690502618
addict it to cocoa butter
>>690502539
Your understanding of the purpose for creating that right is wrong.
The founders wanted the public to always be able to resist an oppressive government. To have the ability to overthrow. Read up on the bill of rights, it's quite interesting.
>>690502681
Literally millions of people every day use AR15s with no problems whatsoever, where nobody gets hurt or dies. Why should everyone freeze what they're doing because one or two psychos out there will get one? Fuck that. Then they'll get an equally effective, but less 'scary' gun, and do the same fucking thing, and everyone else will be punished regardless.
>>690502660
cartels are terrorists. and we've had tiny casualties of Americans both abroad and at home
https://www.start.umd.edu/pubs/START_AmericanTerrorismDeaths_FactSheet_Oct2015.pdf
read. be educated...
US has had 4,425 deaths in the second gulf war, as opposed to 26,000+ Iraqi insurgent deaths.
>>690502972
except your average marine wholeheartedly believes in all these revolutionary values, and as hes willing to die for his people, would not comply. you fucking pacifists deserve any cattle car you get talked onto
>>690502972
The second the government turns on it's own people is the second the war starts. Drone pilots won't carry out orders, soldiers will defect en masse, and shit will go sideways fast.
>>690503163
you think 4000 is tiny? i hope the next 4000is your neighborhood.
>>690502539
And what does the ability of a weapon have to do with anything? If a criminal can get it, the public can get it. You don't want to get shot? Level the fucking playing field and carry one. I'm sorry you live in a country that would stand no chance if a government started getting more and more oppressive to it's people. What would you do? Throw rocks at them? Enjoy living comfortably through the total infallability of THE STATE (tm). Can't wait for our military to have to bail your ass out like we do when every other government runs rampant, fucking idiot.
And for the record, if you aren't in a gang, the odds of being shot and killed in the United States are roughly .00001143% (~4000 deaths over 350,000,000 people)
over 300million gats in america. GET IT RIGHT FAGGOT
>>690502645
Then THEY'RE wrong too. They have nothing to do with the epic failure of the NRA and GOP to have controls in place to ban him from buying a weapon though.
Here's what it should have been like:
>want to buy gun
>you're on the terror watch list
>send automatic notfication that he tried to buy a gun and escalate his status on the watch list.
>When gun dealer reported the suspicious guy trying to buy an AR-15, that should have sent a flag in a database and locked him from being able to buy a gun from ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE STATE or even the country.
Guns aren't fucking toys you retards. We have to think sanely about this shit.
>>690500711
nigga tec 9s haven't been made in years. they were shity gats and didn't sell well with anyone other than niggers that mostly just stole them
furtherfucking more, it wouldnt even be illegal to refuse that order or relieve the commander that issued it. and it WOULD be illegal to follow it.
>>690503599
you didn't read the link. the statistic I provided are *combatant* deaths. people who signed up for a stupid war we should have never fought in the first place. and yes, in terms of the war we've been fighting, that is a *minuscule* number of casualties. click. the fucking. link. read.
Your Doctor is 400 times more likely to kill you!!!
They calculated that 251,454 deaths resulted from medical mistakes.
Medical Errors Are Third Leading Cause of Death in the U.S.
10 percent of U.S. deaths are due to preventable medical mistakes.
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-05-03/medical-errors-are-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-the-us
>>690502681
>forgive me for taking the bait
The NRA doesn't hand out guns to anyone, especially a known "psycho"
When you purchase (yes, PERCHASE) a firearm in most states there is a background check and you must register it and fill out applications to register it (to your own name I might add, so the privelege of gun ownership can be revoked for any person that violates the law. This includes laws not relating to your firearm)
>if you are a registered criminal, you cannot purchase or keep a gun unless you buy it illegally
>>690497917
Those are lies.
>>690503278
He has a chain of command that the piece of shit anti-government guntard is nothing but a domestic threat.
Nice try. The military isn't going to defect in the name of antiAmerican gun nuts.
More people are killed by handguns then semi-automatic rifles. Just sayin'
>>690503142
What fucking good is a government in the first place if people can overthrow it whenever they don't like their own governance system anymore?
>>690503987
thats already how it works. not my fault fbi was asleep that day. ban the fbi.
>>690504145
No they aren't.
>>690490552
Lol
>>690504162
>Not knowing how martial law works
>Not knowing that the US military is not to fire on its own civilians under any circumstance (including direct orders).
Get smart, retard.
>>690504162
yeah and he also has the duty to DISOBEY UNLAWFUL ORDERS YOU FUCKING PUKE YOU THINK ALL SOLDIERS ARE ROBOTS THERE A SHITLOAD OF FUCKING PATRIOTS IN THERE BUD
>>690500413
With all the sheep in there im surprised the wolves haven't gone in themselves.
>>690504246
>fbi was asleep
No, the NRA used the GOP faggots they own to fillibuster and block them from being able to.
Florida's absolute shit-tier gun laws have it so no communication between gun stores is kept.
That's how he got the gun.
The reason it was so deadly was, again, Florida's shit-tier gun laws didn't regulate magazine size or style, ammunition quanitities or antthing else.
>>690490552
NRA's claim about hammers is wrong. And it’s not even close. In 2012, 8,855 people were murdered by firearms, according to the FBI’s numbers. By comparison, 518 people were murdered by blunt objects (defined not just as hammers, but clubs and other similar items too). Even if you just compare blunt objects to long arms, more people were killed with the latter than the former last year.
>>690492819
Saved link, thanks.
>>690504466
>civilians
Domestic terrorists/enemies waive their rights to be considered American civilians.
>>690504627
>>690504521
Samefag
>>690504521
>patriots
>antiAmerican guntards who think they might just have to overthrow the government
>>690504627
so gun stores in florida dont have to call fbi before all sales? they do here. and since florida has a prison industrial complex second only to texas....im betting they do there too.
>>690502972
There are more americans than drones, and not every drone operator would comply with orders telling them to fire on civilians.
>>690504627
I know you have never seen it but you really should read this:
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/4473-part-1-firearms-transaction-record-over-counter-atf-form-53009/download
>>690504627
It was so deadly because there was a large amount of people in a very small space. 300+ people in a venue, 100 or so casualties. I'm surprised it wasn't more honestly. A bomb or two would've done much better casualty wise.
>>690504784
Nope.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2013/01/03/fbi-more-people-killed-with-hammers-and-clubs-each-year-than-with-rifles/
>>690497039
What does the NRA have to do with it? It's an interest group.
>>690503602
Explain how carrying a gun *prevents* getting shot.
>10 out of 10 countries do NOT invite your troops to 'bail them out'. Extrajudicial entry of sovereign territory is commonly referred to as invasion.
Quit playing the ww2 trump card. It's outdated and it makes you look like a fag.
>>690505008
Shut the fuck up
>>690505183
LOL what a retard.
>>690503155
That's how it's always been, one person does something irrational and dumb and everyone else pays for it forever afterwards.
It's an extension of society adjusting to the lowest common denominator, classes are tailored for the stupid kids, laws protect criminals and anything remotely dangerous is banned or plastered with redundant warnings to protect retards from themselves.
>>690490552
>>690504749
A terrorist is someone who uses fear and violence to push their agenda.
A revolution would be if the people revolt against their oppressive regimes and establish a new government, which is a RIGHT AND RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PEOPLE.
I have had family in Marine First Recon and Army Infantry. They are all taught the same: in the event in which a revolt or internal revolution is at hand, you are to stand down. The military cannot be used in the event of martial law.
>>690497041
13% of the population of the country is black and 52% of violent crimes in america are perpetrated by blacks thats not institutional racism its a culture that glorifies ignorance and violence
>>690505108
you think iraq is not begging for more troops? isis marched from benghazi right up to baghdad. we trained their weak and undisciplined "army" of backwards savages for ten years amd they still cant defend themselves.
>>690505255
Shut up dork
>>690505108
>Explain how carrying a gun *prevents* getting shot.
This is a good start: http://controversialtimes.com/issues/constitutional-rights/12-times-mass-shootings-were-stopped-by-good-guys-with-guns/
Not to mention the mass shooting that was stopped in Chicago this week.
>>690492338
>Assault rifles are automatic
>Automatic rifles require a class license from the ATF
>You'd be lucky to shoot 40 rounds minute with an AR
>Literally every gun other than bolt action and single action revolvers are semi-automatic
>What part of "shall not be infringed," do you not understand
Yfw
>>690493817
More people die from medical malpractice than from guns
>>690505923
um you are really trying to say I can't shoot above 40 rpm with an ar? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3gf_5MR4tE
>>690505454
Rap and hip hop are responsible for destroying the black culture of America. Along with LBJ and the modern Democratic party, it has created a self-perpetuating racism within black communities. It's not the police that are always tryn' to keep da black man down. It's their fellow negros, the gangbangers and the food stamp fueled 15 kid single mothers that have systematically destroyed the black culture of the '40s and '50s. Niggers have nobody to blame for their situation but themselves.
>>690500250
Fuck your feels. Democrats should have to register to exercise their 1st amendment rights.
>>690501458
we need hammer control im gonna link a petition and we'll make a real difference these hammernuts are fucking insane they have no right to own a hammer without a background check
>>690505913
You're trying to straw man your way out of a ridiculous statement. Carrying does not prevent anything per se, and you're extremely naive to believe otherwise.
>The writers at Controversial Times bring you the stories that freedom & liberty loving Americans care about that are often ignored by other media outlets.
Fucking anyone can spout their coloured views and call it 'news'. ANY source is more reliable than yours.
>>690506218
YOU sure as hell can't. Jerry can because he's practiced for many years. He's a world record holder. That's like saying anybody can throw a football 100 yards, not just the best quarterbacks.
>>690506398
Is that fucking cereal guy? How far have we fallen? I miss that meme.
>>690504680
if you wanna rebut it link your proof faggot any retard can just say shit like its the truth
>>690506092
>>690504094
I should carry a gun with me the next time I go see the doctor!
But this is true. Having several family members in the hospital recently I have stopped them from fucking up far more than once...
My mother was expected to die within a day or too till I told them their directive that she could not receive blood was an error. They gave her blood and she was release from the hospital the following day.... Some moron checked the wrong box on a computer screen.
>>690493182
>>690494115
>>690495300
Reading these in soldier's voice is the most amusing thing in this thread
>>690506398
>that image
Welp, that disqualifies YOUR dumb ass from asserting an "opinion".
>>690491992
if 2 years of intense FBI investigations can't suffice as a good enough background check for the orlando shooter, nothing in legislation will. retarded faggot
>>690506529
I don't think you understand how slow 40 rpm is.
>>690490552
>>690498692
the problem here is your attempting to reason with a retard who lacks critical thinking skills and parrots incorrect thoughtd of others
>>690506529
I can shoot a bolt action 30-06 at 40 rpm so kiss my ass....
:)
>>690492338
if you're a deer hunter. if you are a free citizen, you need a fully automatic assault rifle to deter and defend against oppressive government
>>690507396
>>690507543
I feel like an idiot now for not reading the entire post and just watching Jerry's video.
>>690505309
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_Army
Military was called out to kill Vets in DC.
>>690507543
That's nothing ol' chap. Ever heard of the mad minute?
>>690490552
https://youtu.be/lgc9PglQMOY?t=1m24s
Nuff said
>>690492765
fuck off faggot /b/ should not have any political views it should be a cesspool of every other board on 4chan and allow true freedom of speech no matter how much of a libtard or repubicunt
>>690507098
havent been to college in the past ten years champ?
all the anti gun arguments in this thread regarding crime and mass shooters are completely irrelevant. the fact of the matter is, the constitution of this country accepts the INNATE, UNALIENABLE RIGHT and GUARANTEES the ability to keep and carry weapons.
if you don't like that level of freedom, you are free to move elsewhere.
/thread
>>690506511
This is a plan I can get behind. Hammers are killing way too many people. Hammers kill people like guns kill people. Its all the hammers fault.
>>690506511
Also dubs checked.
>>690507942
I'm so happy Wolf started producing .303 Brit WPA.
>>690507796
In order to redeem yourself you must now watch this video to purify your soul.... :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTwkM7gpx5E
>>690508282
BUT WHAT ABOUT MY FEELS?
>>690508531
THEY DID WHAT NOW?
LINK IT.
>>690508548
Fuck MS. Poor Dugan.
>>690508616
Yup. It was all over /k/ maybe a month ago.
http://www.sgammo.com/product/303-british-ammo/20-round-box-303-british-174-grain-fmj-ammo-russian-wolf-wpa-bimetal-case-a
>>690508282
quoting stefan molyneux.... kill yourself retard
>>690508531
hell no the brits where way to generous on their chambers you would get stuck cases left and right
>>690493665
>notoriously shit for hunting
seems to work just fine for hunting gays
>>690500573
you can carry a loaded concealed handgun with no license in 1/5th of america, as long as you legally own the firearm and can legally possess it.
is the world falling apart in those 10 states?
>>690503278
this. if a time were to come, every redneck in the usmc and the US Army would be standing side by side with his civilian brothers thumping whatever weekend warriors the left sends after them
>>690507923
id bet it was cops. youd have been better off citing kent state.
>>690502972
people this retarded vote. think about that everyone.
>>690508607
>BUT WHAT ABOUT MY FEELS?
>>690498148
>you didn't overthrow the british government, you needed the french to actually push them out.
>>690508913
the point of arming the common man is so in the event of a rebel army being formed the new formed nation would not have to worry about fielding small arms and that would be a huge deal
>>690493665
so what? as I understood it that doesnt matter for the american interpretation of their right to bear arms. its in case the goverment needs to be taken down. if the weapons people are allowed to own are military grade thats even better isnt it? other countries have similar principles with other laws to ensure the people stay in control. germany has the requirement of military service to ensue the military doesnt become a private club of people with power aspirations that support a righwing usurption of power like before (for some reason they decided to pretty much abolish it even though the military is expanding again.).
Obesity?
Amerilards
>>690508853
you cannot do that anywhere moron.
>>690509416
Yes you can, it's called constitutional carry.
>>690509416
welcome to Arizona faggot
>>690499605
ARmalite
>>690509160
we overthrew the british for 3 years and captured one of their largest armies in order to win the acceptance of france. the british came for our guns and cannons in lexington and concord in 1775, and we fucked them up good when we said no. after 3 years of us fighting the most powerful army and empire in the world later, the french finally were persuaded to join the fight
>>690509160
>implying getting allies in a cause negates that causes success
if i pay a nigger to beat your ass i will still have had your ass beat
>so then did america win the world wars?
>>690508931
The cops did shoot 2 but this point stands - the Military attacked the Bonus Army:
At 4:45 p.m., commanded by Gen. Douglas MacArthur, the 12th Infantry Regiment, Fort Howard, Maryland, and the 3rd Cavalry Regiment, supported by six battle tanks commanded by Maj. George S. Patton, formed in Pennsylvania Avenue while thousands of civil service employees left work to line the street and watch. The Bonus Marchers, believing the troops were marching in their honor, cheered the troops until Patton ordered[citation needed] the cavalry to charge them—an action which prompted the spectators to yell, "Shame! Shame!"
Shacks that members of the Bonus Army erected on the Anacostia Flats burning after the confrontation with the military.
After the cavalry charged, the infantry, with fixed bayonets and tear gas (adamsite, an arsenical vomiting agent) entered the camps, evicting veterans, families, and camp followers. The veterans fled across the Anacostia River to their largest camp, and President Hoover ordered the assault stopped. MacArthur chose to ignore the president and ordered a new attack, claiming that the Bonus March was an attempt to overthrow the U.S. government. Fifty-five veterans were injured and 135 arrested.[12] A veteran's wife miscarried. When 12-week-old Bernard Myers died in the hospital after being caught in the tear gas attack, a government investigation reported he died of enteritis, while a hospital spokesman said the tear gas "didn't do it any good."[16]
During the military operation, Major Dwight D. Eisenhower, later the 34th president of the United States, served as one of MacArthur's junior aides.[17] Believing it wrong for the Army's highest-ranking officer to lead an action against fellow American war veterans, he strongly advised MacArthur against taking any public role: "I told that dumb son-of-a-bitch not to go down there," he said later. "I told him it was no place for the Chief of Staff."[18]
>>690509416
what a fucking moron. again, can you people believe idiots like this can vote?
how can people so uninformed, be so committed to legislating over issues they have absolutely ZERO knowledge of?
>>690509416
>you cannot do that anywhere moron.
Thank God!
Someone in this thread is actually going to learn something!!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_carry
>>690508737
Holy shit, I love you anon. I follow /k/ pretty religiously(nothing better to do at work), and haven't seen any mention of it.
>>690509416
shut your disgusting whore mouth you ignorant liberal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_carry
the r e a l killers
>>690508282
u cant /thread ur own post faggot. kys.
>>690509887
you can't teach a willfully ignorant cunt something if he refuses to accept facts
>>690502539
There were breech-loading weapons back then that were much faster to reload than a musket. It's not hard to imagine that they could have conceived of the kinds of firearms available today.
>>690503987
The NRA aren't the ones who should stop him from buying guns.
>>690509976
sorry this thread ended at that post. maximum logic was achieved and unless you can bend the rules of physics you can't do shit about it
I too hope one day we can get rid of these guns so we can all hold hands in a drum circle singing kumbaya instead of having to retreat to our safe spot because someone disagreed with me and thats triggering.
>>690509868
>how can people so uninformed, be so committed to legislating over issues they have absolutely ZERO knowledge of?
I hate to tell you about this short video. But you should know just how fucking ignorant the gun grabbers in congress really are...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT7TOL_V08M
k id never heard of that before i stand corrected. i thought you had it confused with open carry. i thought u had to get a permit in every state.
>>690509910
It was what made me decide my next purchase was going to be a No 1 MkIII, until Orlando happened. Funny thing is, the morning after it happened I drove right past PSA and could've easily just bought my AR kit right then and there.
>>690502972
yea because that wouldnt just end in a military coup
>>690502243
What are people REALLY buying them for?
>>690510153
yeah thomas jefferson had a 22 shot assault rifle. he bought two for lewis and clark. some austrian weapon.
>>690503599
I mean yea 4000 is like nothing, do some looking in to WWI.
>>690509935
These things should've been regulated a long time ago! One of these things killed my appache attack helicopter partner! These things should be BANNED!
>>690510607
Girandoni air rifle.
>>690490552
Falling Vending Machines probably cause more deaths than guns.
>>690510366
I've apparently been using my guns wrong this whole time. I thought it just fired the bullet and ejected the cartridge but now I find out it can launch the entire magazine at once. That seems like it should have a lot more stopping power with that sizable increase in mass.
>>690505309
>The military cannot be used in the event of martial law.
u wot
>>690510366
FUCKING WHAT
WHAT
THIS IS WORSE THAN 'THE SHOULDER THING THAT GOES UP'
holy shit
>>690509935
This is a REAL fucking vending machine!!!
>>690511177
When I was breaking in a custom made Hi-power I was working on for a client, the magazine ejected with such force you could probably give someone a decently sized bruise with it.
I'd still say bullets are a bit more effective, though.
>>690511470
>$21 for 50 rounds
The concept is awesome, but fuck that price. I pay half that for 9mm any day of the week.
>>690509416
>tfw I can walk down the street with a gat in my waist band and its 100% legal
git gud shitstatefag
>>690510153
yeah they actually intended for the people to have access to whatever weapon kit the military personnel had access to.
>>690511177
One must learn all of it's secrets!
>>690511708
Those appear to be .45 rounds. Which is quite a nice price for 50.
>>690500250
Yeah cause they aren't real menz like mez pic related it you fag
>>690511708
>but fuck that price. I pay half that for 9mm any day of the week.
Not if your at the gay club being shot up by the SOB terrorist muslim boy and you run out of ammo!
>>690511024
Possibly more than "assault weapons", but I'd have to do some research to be sure. I've read before that more people die annually from vending machines than shark attacks. And people think sharks are the danger of the world...
>>690512147
Ah, the disneyworld tactics of charging people $4 for a bottle of water. Well good thing I carry plenty of ammo. I guess that's akin to sneaking in a box of candy and two water bottles into a movie theater in your wife's purse.
>>690509935
BAN
>>690511817
they felt that because a standing militia was necessary to having a free state, the government should not restrict the people from access to arms which are necessary to having a standing militia.
>>690512119
I guess it depends where you live. I can find them for $17 where I am, but that still hurts compared to $11 for nines.
>>690512147
Pro tip:
Bust out the glass with a chair since your going to bee needing all that ammo really damn fast!!
>>690512572
True, I own a FiveseveN and a 50 box for it is cheaper than my .45, oh well.
>>690512349
>I guess that's akin to sneaking in a box of candy and two water bottles into a movie theater in your wife's purse.
We used to get colostomy bags and stick them on the funny looking kid to sneak shit it.
It was cash!
>>690511177
I just shoot my entire gun at the target. You just have to press XX■▲x▲ before pulling the trigger and the gun will fly out of your hand at bullet speed multiplied by how ever many bullets are in the magazineclip.
>>690501806
I don't mean to suggest that guns aren't an issue needing to be addressed in some way, but this thread was just about stuff that's less fatal than hammers.
>>690509686
Armalite Rifle m8
