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Why are Americans so keen to kill each other? Why don't they just allow their government to out more stringent checks in place to stop anyone getting a gun?
I'm cautious about my child getting his hands on a lighter that I may have left out, I can't imagine the mentality behind having such a lack of consideration for your family that you're happy to have guns everywhere you walk.
> inb4 it's to protect us from our own government
If the US military wanted to fuck you up, do you think your guns would pose any real difficulty for them? Also if you're that paranoid that you're in constant fear of your own government wiping you out, you are the last people that should be in possession of a firearm.
Commie bastard
>>690418509
Obamers wants our guns and will kill us all when he has them
>>690418509
this is some pretty obvious b8. When are you going to start arguing with yourself, OP?
>>690419009
That's the exact mentality as to why you people shouldn't have guns. You're slightly deranged, you're incredibly paranoid.
In fairness, you're in an impossible situation, if they try and take your guns there'll be civil war, if they don't you'll continue to slaughter each other. It's lose lose.
> hurr durr its own right to own a gun
It's an archaic document out of touch with a developed world.
>>690418509
They're not, you moron. You believe too much of the news. Sensationalism sells ads because bad news brings eyeballs because humans love seeing others suffer so they can act concerned.
>>690418509
People kill each other regardless of guns and country.
>>690419687
Voicing an opinion that's likely to gain a conflicting response isn't bait, in my mind I feel I have absolutely irrefutable opinions on the topic and I'd like to voice them to some of the most vocal gun supporters and see how they'd reply.
Unfortunately so far all I've had are these absolute nuggets of intelligence:
>>690418696
>>690419009
>>690419768
>samefagging thia hard
>>690419991
>irrefutable opinions
jesus christ
>>690418509
Because then only the government would have guns and that would be terrible.
>>690419768
> It's an archaic document out of touch with a developed world.
I agree. let's start by taking your first amendment rights and getting you to shut the fuck up.
Guns, unless used for hunting, their sole aim is to harm and kill. Why would you ever want your country littered with them?
>>690420418
Are you telling me that hunting isn't about harming and killing? Are you really that stupid?
>>690418509
we get it you don't like guns go support hillary sissy boy.
>>690420035
Samefagging with what? You need to put the other post if you're claiming samefagging
>>690418509
>Why don't they just allow their government to out more stringent checks in place to stop anyone getting a gun?
Why don't we just make it illegal to use guns during a crime?
>>690418509
BLACKS MAKE UP LESS THAN 13% OF THE POPULATION AND YET THE MAJORITY OF GUN CRIME IS BLACK ON BLACK.
Also most gun death statistics include suicides.
>>690420177
Gr8 point m8
>>690418509
You're right OP. Banning dangerous things always solves the problem. Hey when will we get a ban on drugs again?
>>690418509
>white people rarely do it
>brown on brown
>black on black
>>690420395
> not being able to express a counter argument
>>690420514
No, that's not what I was saying whatsoever. Go for the semantics though bro, that's the best way to defend your cause...
>>690421016
>Go for the semantics though bro, that's the best way to defend your cause...
I'm not defending any cause, just reveling in how stupid you are.
> If the US military wanted to fuck you up, do you think your guns would pose any real difficulty for them? Also if you're that paranoid that you're in constant fear of your own government wiping you out, you are the last people that should be in possession of a firearm.
Right because we're all gonna be standing out in the open, lined up in a nice organized firing line, waiting for the military to come. Are you fucking autistic? If a few muslim angry muslim farmers can take on not only the US military, but every other military that shows up, then I'm damn sure trained military veterans, members of the state militia, police officers, hunters ect. Will stand one hell of a chance.
>>690418509
>when the b8 is this bad
Pls op actually try
>>690420287
If you had an incredibly paranoid mindset then yes.
What does having a gun do anyway? Your own police brutalise you and murder you, what do you do in response? Loot shops of your fellow man, burn down each other's cars and fuck up your towns and cities, destroying your own shit.
Do you honestly think whatever pithy rifles or handguns you own would be any match for your country's military attacking you? Of course not.
>>690418509
Teach your kids the safe ways to deal with dangerous things.
Teach them, or they will learn by accident.
I started teaching my kids to shoot at 3 years. At ten they were driving on private property. The chainsaw lessons were good.
You are a shitty parent, and a worse person. I hope you keep teaching your kid(s) to be victims, cuz thats the most horrible thing that can happen to them, and you, if you care
>>690420540
I'm not American
>>690420418
ever here of target shooting?
Also, and I get this might be hard for a europoor to understand, but the US is very large so some people live in actual rural areas where it takes a long time for any of the members of the small local police force to arrive. Ownership of a deadly weapon is required for self defense and is an inalienable right.
>>690420601
A guy on an FBI watchlist walked into a store and bought a gun and killed 50 ppl. Blind ppl can legally get a gun. Children can buy guns from gun shows. People with mental health issues can get guns.
If restrictions were in place to stop at least these types of people it would make a difference.
Or do nothing, bury your head in the sand and hope your kids school doesn't get shot up.
>>690421118
most of them would defect, dumbass. They wouldn't stand a chance because they wouldn't be fighting against us.
>>690420685
Great, yeah another reason for gun control, it facilitates suicide.
>>690418509
>Implying all gun owners leave their guns out.
>>690420715
Didn't say ban, I said put restrictions and more stringent checks in place.
>>690421891
>Children can buy guns from gun shows.
no. they can't
>>690418509
Go look up the CDC stats. Most gun deaths are from suicide. The remaining majority is nigger on nigger violence due to a variety of other factors - mostly lucrative drug trade.
Mass shootings are up because the definition of mass shooting has changed.
Mass shootings as we see it, like Orlando, the theatre in Denver, or the School in Newtown are psychosis or terrorist related.
Norway and France recently had gun violence on a massive scale despite strict gun laws.
Switzerland has it right. Lots of guns, minimal violence. We should find out what they're doing and mimic that society's gun laws.
>>690418509
Because people like you exist. You get butthurt and you want to take rights away from people and make the entire world your safe space?
Guns were invented because of people like you.
>>690421476
You're talking about niggers.
Guns are safe tools in the hands of white people.
As long as they're not sjw fucktards like you. Go suck cock, and let real men take on the real issues.
>>690422125
mass shootings happen because parents raise beta males who cant handle their shit.
>>690418509
>>more stringent checks in place to stop anyone getting a gun?
They've tried similar things. requiring possession of a stamp that was only produced in token numbers and laws of that kind. Laws of that nature are unconstitutional and are overturned.
Many anti-abortion laws are challenged under this.
>ITT: Idealistic faggots who've never woke up during a burglary, both sides of the argument.
>>690421979
Bullshit. If someone is going to kill themselves they deserve an easy way of doing it. Don't make them do some dumb shit like hang themselves or bleed out you insensitive prick
>>690422171
This. I don't need infantile ideology pushed on me. I don't let children tell me what to do, so yeah...I don't give a fuck about your dead.
>>690421094
Your tone would indicate otherwise, you're kidding nobody.
As mentioned, it wasn't what I was saying, I'm sorry you couldn't understand.
I'm not afraid of the government, I'm afraid of other people with guns. So if everyone that has no ill intent has a gun, then stopping the people with ill intent will become easy.
>>690418509
Because you don't understand the situation. I'll simplify it to foreigner-level.
>Americans like guns. 15 million AR15s are in circulation and are used every day for sporting purposes with nobody getting murdered. There are 14 million or so active hunting licenses at any given moment.
>There isn't a gun problem in America. Believe it or not, there are only about 8,000 firearm homicides in the US per year, and many of them are gang related. See pic related. (aka, niggers shooting niggers over drugs)
>All the proposed legislation wouldn't do a damned thing to curb crime at all. Its all feel-good bills like banning assault weapons, when they're statistically irrelevant when ti comes to deaths. Something like 240 people are killed via assault weapon every year, in a country of 300 million.
Sure, the mass shootings that happen once a year or so are tragedies, but nobodies willing to let crooked, criminal politicians strip us of a very well loved past time and constitutional right just because they feel it's the right thing to do.
If someone wanted to actually HELP the countries violence rates, they'd introduce legislation to tackle problems that actually require some thought and effort, like the war on drugs, the ghetto situation, the lack of mental help, or that whole annoying ISIS/radical muslim problem.
>>690422351
This is the problem. Cant even trust our neighbors anymore. Fucking degenerates.
>>690421891
>A guy on an FBI watchlist
Literally your first 6 words are bullshit. He was investigated by the FBI, he wasn't on a watchlist.
>Blind ppl can legally get a gun.
So are you against the Americans with Disabilities Act?
>Children can buy guns from gun shows
Really? I mean, seriously?
>People with mental health issues can get guns.
This is the real problem, too bad when the NRA and republicans in congress bring this up Obama and his merry band of progressive faggots turn the other way because they don't want to hurt mommy's little autistic homo's feelings
its kind of funny while all you americunts argue about having your guns taken away here in canada we're loosening our guns laws, allowing firearms that where once not allowed in the country to ship over by the thousands for civilian use all because we dont go around killing eachother.
Feels good man
>>690421118
Anybody who isn't a gun nut who reads this post will see how fucking dangerous it is that people like you have guns. It's the mentality of you people. If your military wanted to fuck you up they would just bomb the fuck out of you, military drone attacks, you wouldn't stand a fucking chance. Irrespective, the fact that it's something you have to consider, and to the extent that you're happy with your country being ridden with guns because of it, it's just so worrying for any right-minded impartial person to see.
I really feel sorry for you, no sarcasm intended.
At this point I consider myself to literally be a socialist and I really struggle to understand how all the people I know that are against the patriot act are in favor of letting Gmen unilaterally decide to revoke a persons right to own a firearm based on mere accusation and no action before a judge. It's madness and it just goes to show you that much of what people claim to believe is really a convenient lie that goes out the window as soon as it gets in the way.
>>690421192
See >>690419991
If you've got no way of defending your point, just don't comment.
>>690422695
What's the nigger population like in Canada?
Thought so.
>>690422759
I feel sorry for you when the time comes and you need a gun but dont have one.
>>690422695
>Canadian opinion
>>690422759
anyone that realizes that resisting the US army is possible should have their legally rights limited on the grounds that they are mentally ill and dangerous.
Think back to 2003 and imagine what kind of person would make that statement.
>>690422759
> Anybody who isn't a gun nut who reads this post will see how fucking dangerous it is that people like you have guns.
If by "anybody" you mean "me". Speak for yourself.
> If your military wanted to fuck you up they would just bomb the fuck out of you, military drone attacks, you wouldn't stand a fucking chance
No they wouldn't you idiot. You don't bomb your own country because that destroys critical infrastructure and kills noncombatant tax-paying worker drones.
You are not right-minded, and you are not impartial. You are exactly the kind of person who would have been slaughtered at Wounded Knee.
>>690422939
Not too many niggers here but I'll be honest the few ive seen here I can see why you guys hate them.
Lot of fucking brown people though...fucking hate them
>>690421503
Great, so your kids won't kill anyone, that's fantastic. What are you gonna do about the mentally disturbed kids who decide to shoot up your kids school? Or when he's on a date at the cinema? Or when he's on a night out at the bar?
Where would you draw the line? Everyone can own nuclear weapons, but if someone else decides to nuke their town "I blame the parents for not showing them how to use these tools safely!", no, you'd ban the fucking nuclear weapons.
I'm still confused on why it's an all or nothing scenario. You can ban handguns and grenades and shit without banning hunting rifles which actually have a purpose.
>>690422624
We need that there Trump to tell them faggit retards that they don't get there guns cause they too retarted faggits to handle them and give the to us patriots who need them to defend our property from the goverment, the retarted faggit hating basterds
>>690423018
>>690422695
Head on over to /k/, we have a /k/anada thread going pretty much constantly.
I suggest we kill everyone everywhere.
Dead men can't commit crimes.
>>690419893
Guns still make it a hell of a lot easier. Go ahead and try to knife up a school, see how far you get. Odds are you're not gonna get more than a few.
>>690421689
Target shooting to help you practice hunting or shooting someone. Do they have people shaped targets that you shoot at by any chance when you go to target shooting??
An inalienable right to your alienated mindset.
> europoor
> our police forces aren't funded well enough to cater properly for our towns
Kek
>>690418509
You seem to think that, in a war against the government, we'd have to fight the military. We'd just kill their husbands, wives, children, parents, brothers, sisters, cousins, etc. until they learned their fucking lesson and stayed home.
Estonians had their guns collected once then the russians came to slaughter the defenseless civilians, and criminals have guns either way gun control or not so its better to have them yourself too!
>>690422578
Let me clarify, I'm all for trusting people. I don't initially judge people and just say, "I'm going to keep an eye on that sand nigger." I think of it more as, if someone does something that threatens others, then everyone should have a way to defend themselves. Namely, guns.
>>690418509
I built my first AR in my bedroom with my dad when I was 14, with parts I bought myself. I turned out completely fine, my dad is completely fine. I even kept the rifle in my own safe along with my air rifles in my room. Never took it out of the safe unless it needed to be cleaned, taken to go shooting, or whatever other reason that justified it being out of the safe.
The real problem is parenting. Teach kids that guns are not toys, but they can be safe if you are careful.
We never thought that our own government would try and take them, that's a joke. I mean, they could try, but there'd be too much blood. Plus, would any U.S. soldier want to kill his own? I guarantee you no one would follow orders.
We just liked guns. They're cool, fun, have many other uses than hurting people, and it's one of the things my dad and I poured our money into next to dirt bikes. I think every house should have a gun, whichever gun they choose to own is their business.
>>690423487
kek
>>690418509
Yes our gun would pose a threat to the government. Pissed off people fighting invaders to keep what they love and in an environment they know. Yes that would pose a threat to the government. the government should be afraid of the people not the other way around
>>690423458
>>690422026
No I don't think they do, maybe only 5% do. Shit lot of guns left about though, don't you think?
>>690422109
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIFiJdw0uME
>>690423721
Target shooting isn't "Practice"
If you knew anything about guns you would know this
Target shooting is a sport like polo, hockey, etc
polo is practice riding
So no, target shooting is about jerking off while shooting cardboard cutouts of people.
>>our police forces aren't funded well enough to cater properly for our towns
tell that to Paris jackass
>>690423844
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>being this retarded
>>690418509
It's exactly this kind of cuck mentality "let the government take care of us" that has resulted in the coming collapse of Europe and possibly the US as well.
Also, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
>>690418509
First you blame the mentality. Therefore no guns. First you blame the mentality (of being a child). Then you blame the lighter.
Are you 12 years old or literally believe that people should not be responsible and trusted for their own actions?
>>690419768
>>690419768
>>developed world
Apparently there are no niggers or meth heads anywhere near you.
>>690422125
Yeah Switzerland, load of guns, minimal crime.
It is American people who are the problem and clearly can't be trusted with guns. As you say, look at Switzerland
>>690423716
>Go ahead and try to knife up a school, see how far you get
there won't be any guns to stop a person. Even if the authorities did have a gun, all someone has to do is get a hostage and hold the knife close.
>fire
>slice
2 dead
that wouldn't happen
>>690424446
???? are you a russian commie faggot?
>>690418509
A lot of it comes down to this: legislators are asking for submission, and humans hate to submit. Especially in the United States where we are afforded so many rights and liberties.
People will buy guns simply because there are people who think they shouldn't have them. Get it before it's gone, they say, but it's also about disobeying authority.
There is also a factor fear - people want them because for some reason they feel insecure in their surroundings. Often times it's because they know other people might have weapons.
American laws change slow and our partisan politics certainly don't help. We all have an opinion, but no one wants to act on anything. They'd rather drag their heels and make the process as lengthy as possible. It tends to come back to that same fear of "what if other people have weapons and I don't?"
>>690422141
Gr8 point m8
>>690424279
fuck you, I ain't no fucking leaf faggit. I'm an murikan. Fuck you retarted faggit!
>>690424279
kek
>>690418509
First off, the US has a lot of people, and when you combine that with a culture based around individual freedom, you get a lot of deaths. Second, gun violence stats are really weird, I personally don't think that suicide by gun should be counted as gun violence. I also wish that the people who want to ban guns would take the time to understand how guns work, and also be consistent and open in their aims. Instead of saying something like "assault weapon", say something like we want to ban all self reloading rifles. The big thing is that i'm reluctant to restrict someones rights because of something as corrupt and flawed as the no-fly list.
>>690424092
Yeah, I've long thought that public schools should have mandatory gun safety lessons, and possibly some sort of sport shooting club.
>>690424635
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Being this autistic
>>690424599
I'd rather take my chances as a hostage under a knife than in a crowd of people being shot with hundreds of rounds
>>690424396
That's a bolt .22. That older guy probably thought it was the coolest thing that that young man was getting his first rifle. Back in the day it was no biggie, why is it a problem now?
>>690422171
Yeah because having a gun, a deadly weapon that literally I toddler could handle and kill you with, makes you a real man.
It's your personality as to why guns are an issue in the US. I just hope your kids don't get slaughtered in school because of your fucked up mentality.
Founding fathers thought private gun ownership was so important that it's amendment number 2 to the constitution.
>>690421503
Hi Kim!
>>690418509
yeah the nra is shilling their ideals to the fools of 4chan
>>690424810
oh fuck off you butthurt cuck.
>>690424661
How is that in 2016, on 4chan, people still can't spell faggot?
>>690421476
>fellow man
wrong. you're talking about niggers.
>>690422218
Exactly, as long as the constitution is abided by so strictly, it'll refrain your country from inputting sensible laws and regulations, and you'll continue to live in an incredibly dangerous society.
>>690423258
I was just saying
niggers = gun crime
>>690425027
They're doing that to be edgy and cool...
>>690421891
democrats want to get rid of guns so bad they're arguing in favor of secret government watch lists that limit citizens' rights.
not to mention that literally nothing in this post is actually true; pretending a guy that took several psych tests to carry a gun on the job and was cleared by the FBI after months of investigation isn't going to pass any reasonable background check is simply absurd.
Listen to the damn president. He told us that he isn't going to stop lone wolf terror attacks and wants to ban guns for everyone to limit the damage 1 out of every 300 million want to inflict.
But hey, the best way to fight terror is to limit everyones' rights. That's why we're in favor of NSA spying, CIA torture, and the patriot act
>>690424824
you anti gun people make it out as if this is the wild west and everyone would pull out their guns and just fire away randomly. NO. Those who want to carry have usually taken the proper classes and have permits to do so. They know not to just pull it out and go ballistic.
>>690425027
How is it that in 2016, on 4chan, people like you are still faggits
>>690422279
If that's the case why have pharmaceutical companies banned the sale of drugs used for the death penalty in the US? It's because ppl dont agree with your warped opinion.
>>690425024
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>being this much of a nigger
>>690418509
America is a massive country and is often compared to smaller european countries
>>690425276
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>690422171
> safe tools in hands of white ppl
> mfw every school shooting done by a white kid
>>690420889
You're a fucking faggot. Not only did he counter your argument but anon destroyed you're entire premise. So fuck off.
>>690418509
Responsible gun owners don't "leave their guns out" so children can get to them. Responsible gun owners teach their children not to play with guns. Older children are taught how to properly handle guns. I was shooting various types of fire arms by 10 years old. At 12, I took a hunter safety course required for my first hunting license. Fired my first full auto machine gun by 16. The vast majority of gun owners are very responsible, safety minded individuals. Criminals and gangster leave weapons out for children. 99% of mass murders are caused by gang violence and terrorism. Cities and States with the strictest gun control laws have higher gun violence rates than States and Cities with least restrictive laws. An unarmed civilian is a victim, an armed civilian is a citizen.
>>690422332
> I don't give a fuck about your dead
Pro-gun spokesman here brothers.
>>690422351
This is such a warped mentality
http://www.unodc.org/gsh/en/data.html
pic related
>>690420540
Not OP, but I'm a liberal Hillary supporter and I love guns.
> not everything is so black and white
It's it's funny, the argument really isn't "should we ban or restrict killing devices?" - it's more like "should we progress as a culture and a species?"
You have to look at the issue from a public health or anthropological angle. People are scared, and I don't blame them. There's a lot of boogeymen on that TV, or on your Facebook feed. Don't have the fortitude, courage, or stewardship for your fellow man, to set an example of peace? At all costs? I know we have more angry 9-5ers, and less Gandhis and MLK Jrs. At least recgnize that if your intent is to end a human life for any reason, or publicly brandish lazy remote-control couch potato style devices (point, pull trigger - point, change channel) -- you're on the wrong side of history.
>>690425086
there have been about two mass shootings a year for the last 8 years and this recent ISIS terrorist attack in Florida was the worst, killing 50 people.
That's less at most 100 people a year in a country of 300 million. I wouldn't call that especially dangerous.
Besides, the american way of life isn't about living a life of perfect security with no rights. We would still be part of England if we were willing to trade freedom for security.
>>690418509
There's to many people in the world. I say we don't wait for another asteroid or major ice age for mass extinction I say more mass shootings. Hell 50 is the most so far in America. We can do better than that
>>690418509
Because having no guns in a area a terrorist isn't gonna walk up to the sign an be like "oh darn".
Hell if he wanted to he can drive a 2000 pound bullet, why aren't those banned? Pretty fucking scary if you ask me.
>>690425680
Lol, you must work at Team Wendy
>>690418509
>Americans
mfw: >>690425600
>>690424798
This, so much. They say "assualt weapon" or "military style" which is rather vague and it seems like the weapons falling under that category are just the sp00ky ones they see on TV.
>>690422624
Yeah kids can buy guns https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIFiJdw0uME
Yeah I'm against blind ppl buying a gun, you know, because they can't see shit, because they're blind, so they won't know what they're shooting at hahhahaha fucking hell you couldn't make it up.
Oh sorry, he was just previously someone the FBI thought was a potential security threat, yeah he's good, give him whatever gun he wants....oh shut wait a sec he murdered 50 ppl right? Like to see him do that with a baseball bat.
>>690425850
Every gun is a ar-15 even when it's not.
>>690425201
>usually
Except when they don't, right?
If that's true then why not make those classes a requirement before you can buy your gun? Untrained people respond like untrained people and panic.
>>690418509
>I'm cautious about my child getting his hands on a lighter that I may have left out
What you can't trust your kid to not burn down a forest? It's called teaching your spawn safety so they're not fucking retards.
Careful bro, they might start sawing into their hands with a knife the first time they see a steak.
>>690418509
That kid in Florida would have been able to protect himself from the aligator if his parents allowed him to carry.
>>690418509
Nation of 350m.
Like 1000 die a year at most of mass cal scenarios.
Play the odds. Well be fine
>>690422982
Not an issue where I'm from, gun crime is virtually non existent so I'll just defend myself through non lethal means
>>690425991
YOUR MOM IS AN AR-15!
AS IN, I AR-FUCKING HER 15 TIMES A DAY FAGGIT!
>>690425378
This guy killed 12 people in a school yard.
People who post this shit are the same people who preach not to hate people i.e. muslims for the actions of few. A terrorist blows shit up and you say not to hate muslims but one shooter happensa and every one with a gun is a shooter with you people. Dont hate muslims or even own a gun
>>690423213
This.
>>690423159
Anyone who's happy to have their country flooded with guns, despite numerous horrific gun crimes, in the name of potentially being able to stand an incredibly small chance of defending themselves against their own military - something that's incredibly unlikely and they have no basis to believe will happen - is someone who's deranged and not mentally stable
>>690418509
Not our military. Other nations. Majority of our military wouldn't shoot on citizens. They're not police officers, they have pride and honor.
Put this in perspective
Michigan had something like 600,000 hunters last year. That's 600,000 armed people that poke around the woods and nobody got harmed. That's just Michigan. iran has some 500,000. Pakistan some 600,000 and Russia some 800,000. A Japanese war general once said "you can't invade mainland America, their would be a rifle behind every blade of grass." That is why we need guna faggot.
>>690422141
Bingo!
>>690425400
Third party here. It's true >>690419768 BTFO, you might not be able to even express these opinions if it wasn't for that archaic document.
>>690425809
Nah, I wish. Just team Costco.
Guns are fun as shit
>>690426167
But applying this sort of slippery slope fallacy to firearms isn't exactly fair. Lighters and steak knives could harm or kill, given the right scenario - but that isn't their design. A handgun is a device designed to quickly and portably kill another human being. An assault rifle has a similar intended utility.
I'd just like to say that taking away firearms does not reduce crime, and seems to have the opposite effect in countries where this has happened. I encourage you to take a look at crime statistics in the UK and Australia. There is perhaps a reduction in gun crime, but you'll also see a rise in general violent crime. In the UK for instance, knife crime is booming. Guns don't kill people, people kill people and thats something no one wants to deal with in any meaningful way. To take away guns is something a dumb scared reactionary would do, the same kind that would vote to illegally intern Japanese Americans during world war two, or the same retard that would vote to pass the PATRIOT act after 9/11.
>>690425991
I have seen newscasters look at an image of an AR15 and call it an AK47 over and over again
>>690426378
ur c00l
>>690426656
You're projecting. Firearms are not designed to kill you troll. They're designed to send a projectile some distance. Fuck off fucktard.
>>690423754
Because anything can happen, in the world of imagination.
Thanks again for proving you guys are not stable enough to own guns.
>>690425600
greenland?
>>690426433
OP's post clearly is talking about americans who shoot americans with guns.
And hey look, that's happened in Orlando.
>>690426417
White killing people in the news is because it is rare, but blacks kill blacks all the time, so it doesn't make national news. It's the "Man bites dog" concept.
>>690424092
Please see >>690423352
That's great and there's clearly no issue in you owning a gun, but unfortunately so many ppl aren't like you
>>690427050
WHY are you sending the projectile? Think of early guns. Were they for plinking? The purpose has always been to send a projectile into a person or animal to kill or incapacitate.
>>690424836
Because it's a gun, he's a child and he might kill someone with it
>>690426123
>why not make those classes a requirement before you can buy your gun
IIRC they DO make you take those classes before you can carry in public.
The problem with anti gun people is there are always going to be criminals who don't follow the law. This is true with anything. Look at drugs...illegal/banned, yet people still get them.
>>690426244
not sure if trolling, but it's actually true although he was an underage b&
>>690427356
Wrong. You're quite dumb
>>690426544
you still choose not to understand.
it isn't about the guns. its about our rights and how we handle threats
what are they going to do after the first real cyber attack?
anyone the government suspects of being dangerous won't be allowed to have internet access. Even if there's no evidence of a crime or criminal intent.
it's the same thing. You have to stand up for rights that you choose not to exercise or the rights you want will evaporate as soon as they make someone feel unsafe.
>>690427356
Knifes where made to eat food with but people go around stabbing people with them. Its all on the intent of the user.
>>690425400
I'm not American so it wouldn't apply. And just because some areas don't apply to modern society doesn't mean all don't.
It was just a typically weird, testosterone charged, unstable point made by you kind of people.
>>690427050
Your logic is dizzying, did you come to that conclusion all by yourself? So, I guess our military is just a hobbyists club, with the intent to celebrate the physics of "sending projectiles some distance?"
It must suck when 50-100 young men and women accidently stand in front of your physics experiment?
>>690427322
Okay, then have more protection (i.e. policemen/guards) in schools and cinemas. Obviously bad parenting is widespread across America, so there might be the one kid who is fucked in the head and wants to hurt people for no reason. Let's try and get everyone to teach their kids right from wrong, or if that's a total failure for the parent, make it impossible for their kid to get access to the guns in the house. That probably won't work though, since not everyone will follow. It's a tricky situation.
>>690427704
Then we have a parenting problem.
>>690425732
That's fine, you're happy with that, I can't debate that, however appreciate most people would like to think there'd be a way to eradicate innocent people getting murdered by guns
>>690428164
most mass shootings are closer to a half dozen than 50
and most shootings involve one person shooting themselves, but keep going with the emotional propaganda
I bet you supported the Iraq war you POS
>>690426417
Didn't mean literally, just in the majority of notable ones
>>690424836
>That's a bolt .22.
.22 plinker or a .50 anti-materiel rifle - you get shot in the brain and you're dead.
>>690418509
I don't know how I live with five shots, niggers are hard to kill on my block
>>690428339
you can want anything, but that doesn't make it happen and writing laws based on fantasy is dangerous and illogical.
It'd be great if no one in the US was obese; it would extend many lives, improve the quality of those lives, and save the tax payer tons of money, but no one wants to force people to be fit or regulate our choices at the grocery store.
OP here
I'm having a nap.
You guys are fucked basically. You wont recognise it til it's too late.
Peace out.
>>690428805
The point I was making was that it's a common first rifle for kids of all ages. If your son or daughter can't be trusted with a single shot .22 bolt rifle, YOU are the problem. I'm sure the older gentleman wouldn't have sold him a weapon of a larger caliber, though.
>>690424877
>Founding fathers thought private gun ownership was so important that it's amendment number 2 to the constitution.
They also lived in a time where a pissed off horde of Indians could ride through your town and scalp you at any moment.
>>690418509
>Guns are the problem
>Mass shooters are overwhelmingly democratic
>Mass shootings under "Obama's America"
Ban Democrats
>>690428805
wants to ban .22 because they're dangerous
next they'll ban sling shots, pesticide, and gasoline
>>690428451
???
I think you're missing the point, smarty-pants. The issue here is firearms (handguns and assault rifles, not Billy bob's varmint shooter). They are devices intended to kill, and have no real place or utility in an advanced first world country.
Also, you haven't been able to type your brilliance without saying "fucktard" or "POS". It's ok dude, after the acne clears up and you drop a few pounds, the girls will start talking to you.
Oh, almost forgot - no I didn't support the Iraq war (1 or 2), or any war for that matter. War is a social and cultural exercise of ignorance, hate, and poor problem solving ability.
>>690429273
Kek
>>690427713
This is retarded because any idiot with a hint of chemistry/botany knowledge can manufacture drugs. But you cannot manufacture a semi-automatic weapon without proper resources/facilities. Sure you can "make" primitive firearms but they are in no way as effective as the mass-produced ones.
>People who argue that you will never get rid of guns in America simply do not think long term:
>Impose ban on guns + gun buy back + incentive for tips on those evading law.
>Mandatory minimum 25 year sentence for crime involving gun but no death, Instant death penalty for crime involving gun and death.
>If you want to hunt or target shoot, you pass a background check and then go into a secure facility/nature area where you can rent a firearm and then must give it back after.
The problem obviously won't go away right away, there may be years of issues with crimes, but given a few generations of these strict rules in effect - no more guns/gun crime. Simple.
>>690429273
they also based the 2nd amendment off of hundreds of years of English law that had given the right to bear weapons and taken it away from specific groups when it wanted to repress them.
>>690418509
>>690429707
>Implying most women are on the pro-gun side of the issue
>>690426577
>Majority of our military wouldn't shoot on citizens. They're not police officers, they have pride and honor.
-spent the last 50 years attacking 3rd world countries
-the only country in the world to have nuked a civilian target . . . twice
-now allow women in the military
Kek. The American military has no honor.
>>690425698
progress means getting rid of weapons? You've watched too much star trek. It's not possible. Evolution doesn't work like that and it's silly to think it would. There will always be bad, evil, brutal people. There will always be a need for weapons. There will always be war. It is the nature of animals.
>>690420418
We use them to defend ourselves moron.
>>690430112
Thanks, I'm glad your scrying pool has revealed the future for us all. Guess it's time to buy an AR and jump on in! Better get them before they get me, right?!
People are acting like owning guns is a right gifted by a constitution or a governing body. The bill of rights was written by individuals that believed very strongly that they weren't rights given but inherent; that they were simply part of being human: any animal has a right to defend it self and it's loved ones from any threat.
>>690418509
Who the fuck cares? They're just Muricans. Let's see that last shooting:
>Muricans were killed
Good.
>Faggots were killed
Good.
>Murican faggots were killed
Fucking awesome. Celebration is in order.
>>690430665
>People are acting like owning guns is a right gifted by a constitution or a governing body.
>they weren't rights given but inherent; that they were simply part of being human
exactly
>>690430489
hahhaahahahahahaha. You don't need to be able to see the future to know that humans suck and that after billions of years of evolution animals (us included) still fight, get angry, are ruthless, brutal and violent.
>>690418509
You want a fucking nanny state.
>>690430739
>>690429385
I haven't said "fucktard" in my entire life; all 25 years of it. However, I have learned that people resort to ad hominem arguments(and shallow ones) when they've got little else to defend their claims, but refuse to consider that they could be wrong.
>>have no real place or utility in an advanced first world country
Lets first consider that police officers and soldiers have to deal with dangerous people and have a need for weapons. Some people would argue that there is no need for a military of police force in a first world nation, but these people are more than happy to enjoy the relative peace of a society with laws that aren't optional.
We can no move on the the right of self defense. Jesus taught the world to turn the other cheek and jains sweep the ground as they walk to avoid stepping on bugs, but most people believe that one has a right to defend their life and the life of their family. Civilized countries respect this right and honor it in their legal code. Your desire to strip law abiding citizens of their arms denies them this right.
>> any war for that matter
One that doesn't respect the sacrifices made by those that fought against the Nazi horde reveals a twisted understanding of reality. You would have the world cower before the likes of Adolf Hitler while he commanded his forces to murder millions and you see to dictate rights and laws to others in the name of public safety.
>>690429572
This
>>690418509
Disregarding the classical arguments that everyone spits out all the time, violence is important. It can actually fix certain things, whether liberal hippies believe it or not.
>>690429572
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. . . .
"After years of guns being banned, gun crime will dissapear!!"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Or a more plausible idea is that guns will be manufactured by individuals with 3d printers or through black market connections. And of course lets not forget that guns aren't the only weapons. I could make a chemical weapon from what i find at walmart. lol.
"banning guns solves the problem!" hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
>>690430992
I was hoping your intellect and high diglossia would afford you more than "hahahahaha" - I'm sorry you don't trust other people's historical or anthropological referential ability.
Humans don't suck. The fetishizing of violence sucks. Your culture of fear sucks.
>>690431501
>liberal hippies
Ahem, they prefer the term cock gobbling, progressive shitbag
>>690431501
Hell yes. I'm glad some other students of human nature are posting here!
>>690429572
>>death penalty
>>secure facility/nature area
>>ncentive for tips on those evading law
>> idiot with a hint of chemistry/botany knowledge can manufacture drugs
I think you might have had a little too much jenkem
>>690429572
>>If you want to hunt or target shoot, you pass a background check and then go into a secure facility/nature area where you can rent a firearm and then must give it back after.
What about those of us who want to hunt on our own land? Then what? You gonna try to tell me what I can and can't do on my own property.
Your logic of incentive for tips will only lead to more gun deaths. If I'm going to go to jail for 25 years for having a gun (because some jackass turned me in) you can bet your ass I'm gonna go ahead and get the death penalty because he's gonna die.
Also don't you think criminals will always have guns? Even if the police get a tip that someone has one, if they can't find it, they can't make an arrest.
You come to where I live and tell my family, friends that they have to give up their great grand daddy's gun and they're gonna tell you to get the fuck off their property!
>>690431715
Using big words and laughing at someone's lack of them is such a fucking liberal thing to do. wow. In the world of SJW's you're graduating suma cum laude!
>>690418509
I understand your concern about guns.
I am both a pacifist and someone beginning to embrace Buddhism, so a part of my lifestyle is not to harm or take a life.
Guns make that incredibly easy, so frighteningly easy.
But it's not our place to dictate what people can do. Taking human life is something I consider unjustifiable, but guns are nessecary to hunt and provide in some families.
My rule is if you kill it, you eat it.
>>690418509
cause whenever a headline of toddler kills mom with purse gun i get a healthy lol at darwin in action
>>690432141
>whenever
>>690431874
top kek
>>>secure facility/nature area
this nature area would have to be the size of Texas. That guy doesn't realize how many people hunt for sport. I wanna know how he's gonna have a set area with
>deer
>'coons
>rabbits
>squirrels
>lions, tigers, bears (oh my)
>wild hogs
>frogs
>turkeys
>gators
>wabbits
>any of the 1,000s of other animals that are hunted
>>690432406
oops said rabbits/wabbits twice
>>690432261
are you like not familiar with the word?
this is like a once a quarter occurrence, it happens pretty often
burger americans are fucking stupid
>>690432633
>this is like a once a quarter occurrence, it happens pretty often
Go ahead, show the proof. I'll wait
>>690429202
Have a good nap, faggot.
>>690432794
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/13/the-macabre-truth-of-gun-control-in-the-us-is-that-toddlers-kill-more-people-than-terrorists-do
fucking moron
People keep saying that gun owners need to learn to trust other humans. I say Liberal gun control advocates dont trust them either. I trust all other humans to own guns, i'm just only willing to do so if I have one too. You gun controllers tho dont trust humans to have ANY weapons. Sounds like nobody trusts em, and the argument we're really having is how to defend ourselves against the bad ones.
>>690429283
So funny how repubishits think that correlation = causation.
>>690431651
>laughing like an idiot - 12 year old detected
>inferior 3d printed gun still gets you 25yr/death penalty
>opinion discarded
next
>>690431874
>no arguments to refute statement
>obligatory 4chan insult to end post
>opinion discarded
next
>>690431942
>an actual argument!? wow
Ok if you want to hunt on your property then we can work with you on gun rental and supervised hunt - then return the weapon.
>reading comprehension failure:
you don't go to jail for 25 years for hiding your gun 25 year is for committing a crime with a gun but not killing anyone. the penalty for being caught hiding the gun would be lesser, perhaps a large fine and your guns taken.
>will kill for his little toy
well then my original argument stands, you will die and your ideas will die with you and if your offspring follow in your footsteps they die too.
again wait a few generations and all gun idiots are gone. bye bye gun fags you lose.
>>690418509
>Why don't they just allow their government to out more stringent checks in place to stop anyone getting a gun
Because many people want them and that is a constitutional right.
Because stopping people getting new guns will do nothing for the existing guns.
Because gun control has, in all cases where it has been implemented relatively recently (UK, Australia) led to an increase of violent crime involving the guns that have been banned. Stats are massaged with other "firearms offences" to make it seem like incident rates are dropping overall when they're not. Proof? Look at Air-gun related crimes in the UK. In 1996 it was more than 13,000 cases per year, now it's less than 3000. The handgun ban had no effect on air guns, but this is where the largest drop in stats is recorded. This also coincides directly with a direct reduction of police officers and reduction of police service. The number of incidents of violence involving a handgun has risen more than 300%, as of right now, since the ban in 1996 and at peak in 2006/2007 was more than 1000% higher than pre-ban.
Because all crime is a social problem and not a hardware problem.
These reasons, among many others, are why. If you think gun control will have any effect on crime then you're right. If you think it will reduce crime then statistically you're demonstrably wrong, not just outside the USA but also inside. The places with the highest gun control measures typically have the highest incident rate of gun related crime.
>>690431289
You're doing good for 25, you might impress some of your undergrad friends. Not ad-hom, sincere compliment.
You can reference pop history all you like, but I feel you're still missing the point. You can look down the narrow channels and use that as your intellectual inspiration, and that's fine. You would fit right in, most places. I guess I just might be too old and idealistic to think we might be able to educate the public into opening books instead of opening fire.
>>690418509
>>690433067
And liberals dont? "get rid of legal guns and gun violence ceases."
Sounds like you're in the correlation = causation dark there too hippy.
>>690419991
I'm a Canadian firearms owner. I took a test and have a photo ID so I can buy guns and ammo.
The test was so easy I don't think you should be allowed a redo. If you fail you really are too stupid to own anything more dangerous than a screwdriver..... Even that you should be careful with you dumb cunt.
Anyway, no idea why the Yanks don't have something similar.
>>690432883
>factual rebuttal
posts an opinion piece.
I'll take my facts from a better source than one that uses snopes for their fact checking
>>690433095
HuRR DURR I'm so smart. HURR DURR. I dismiss arguments with my super wit! HURR DURR. MOOOOM MORE TOSTINOS! GOD!
>>690433327
A1 post anon
>>690432406
im more interested in the force that's going to lock people up for 25 years because they have a .22
I wonder if his future includes longer sentences for rapists or if they'd do less time than a guy with a gun he did nothing with. Maybe this guy wants to ban dicks, but let people rent them in controlled areas
>>690418509
When The Revolution starts and Americans sick of the oligarchy and a corrupt government start fighting back...my AR-15 might not stop a tank...but what soldier in his right mind that can see what is happening in the US can actually say they would still fight for an oppersive government
To Quote part of The Declaration of Independence
"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,"
How are you going to do that if the only people who have guns ARE that government
>>690433463
>still haven't come up with a valid counter-argument
>spouting dat dank hur dur meme
>>690433422
I know right? "It comes from MSNBC and buzzfeed so it must be fuckin true! How dare conservatives trust conservative news? Small minded idiots!" lol.
>>690431715
Haha, my bombast will surely make it seem like I know anything about the nature of man!
>>690423159
What the world fails to realize, is that the military is NOT on the side of the government. They all take an oath to protect the Constitution and people. They'd be on our side, and God help ANY force that would try to disarm us, invasion included.
>>690433838
>>690433784
BEST FUCKING PICTURE EVER. FUKKIN SAVED! Lol'd my ass off. hahahaha.
AMEEERICAAA, FUCK YEAH!
Also, good point. Many sheriff's offices and police departments have already stated they would refuse to enforce such measures.
>>690429385
I'm the Canadian firearms owner. I liked the conversation you are having with the young fella.
One thing you should know is that not all of us grew up in a situation to have your ideals. I grew up ghetto and I know evil.
If evil comes kicking in my door they are going to die. Stripping me of arms means I now have to do that with other weapons.
This means I could die leaving my house unprotected. After my front door I am the last stop before you get to my family.
Home invasions happen and murder happens. I don't feel the need to carry outside but in my home where I put my head down I've got a firearm handy.
I took a course and a test. I also gave the RCMP two character references.
>>690433095
You're retarded to think that banning guns from law abiding citizens will stop gun crime. Criminals don't follow the law. Look at France. Gun Ban in place... what happened there? England, Severe gun regulation, literally nothing able to be owned unless single shot rifle/shot gun...Cumbria shootings. 12 dead. Birmingham last year.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/10/foghorn/sorry-mr-president-england-had-a-mass-shooting-saturday/
Guns aren't the issue. Criminals are. If they are on a list... they shouldn't have guns, they shouldn't have access to guns.
>Ok if you want to hunt on your property then we can work with you on gun rental and supervised hunt - then return the weapon.
What if SHTF, EMP or solar flare kills power grid. No grocery stores, no refrigeration. How am I going to provide for my family? I'm not going to fucking "rent" a gun and be watched by some pencil dick who knows shit about hunting.
>>690433830
HURRRRR DURRRRRR I"M SO PEACEFUL! I"M A LIBERAL HIPPY HURR DURRRR.
>>690431990
Thanks /b/ro. I better keep myself in check. I'll tear up my SJW certificate I got from the public library. Actually, I learned everything I need to know about this issue in *gasp* Bosnia back in the 90s. Or... *gasp* Iraq in 2005. Sorry if I used big elitist words.
If registered democrats would stop shooting people, we wouldn't have a problem.
>>690433327
Soviet Russia had perfect gun control and there wasn't gun ownership. The gun crime dropped to nothing. Stay mad, repubifuck.
>>690434394
I call bullshit. ahhahahah .I'm a soldier and I'm for 100% gun bans. Fuckin whatever. You're a SJW. Don't pretend. lol
>>690434490
>Soviet Russia had perfect gun control and there wasn't gun ownership
And they still had their freedom. Good comparison genius.
>>690431990
Im pretty sure thats a thing that anyone who is intelligent and an asshole tends to do. Or anyone pretending to be intelligent.
>>690434490
RUSSIA?!?! RUSSIA?!!?!? THE GREATEST OPRESSIVE EVERYTHING OF EVER!?!?!? USE THAT AS A GOOD EXAMPLE>!!?!??!?! ARE YOu SERIOUS!?!?!? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>690433095
>>no arguments to refute statement
the argument was implied
everything you wrote was crazy
an idiot can grow brick weed or brew meth, but LSD is hard to make, heroin and coke require a great many plants to produce a viable quantity and only grow in certain climates. Most drugs are hard to make. MDMA and LSD are made by actually scientists with lab equipment.
As for the rest of this bullshit; you're literally describing an Orwellian state. Armed security forces on the prowl for anyone with a banned peice of equipment the possession of is enshrined in the bill of rights, paying cash bribes to sketchy informants and locking people up for a quarter century for possession.
and the absurdity of controlled nature areas for people to hunt in is literally laughable
I responded to your post with a joke because that's all it deserved.
This post explaining that to you is more than you deserve.
>>690434490
Shiiieeeeet. You think a communist country is going to report the russian mafia?I lived in the 80's, I know that you are a retard. At the beginning of the 20th century, Russia had a higher homicide rate – nearly ten per 100,000 people per year.[2] In the late 1950s and early 1960s, the rate remained stable and it was lower than in the United States.[2] There was a rise in the homicide rate in the mid-1960s and 1970s which peaked in 1980, and then slowly declined in until 1985, and then it fell rapidly in 1986–1987.[2]
Until the late 1980s, homicide rates in Russia were nearly similar to that in the United States.[2] The increase in homicide rate in Russia began slightly earlier than 1990,[3] and rose throughout the 1990s.[2] Homicides were more common in Russia than in the Baltic states in 1991 and nearly doubled in frequency by 1994–1995.[4] In 2003, the homicide rate in Russia was among the highest in the world.[5]
That's a misconception. We are happy killing anyone or anything. Sometimes we get in each other's way though.
I'm sorry you are such a pussy and I'm really sorry that you have already reproduced.
But more targets for me.
>>690434642
Nice nonsensical sentence you fucking consertivatard.
>>690433422
next time you watch the news and a kid shoots his mom you'll remember this thread and my epic lols at Americans butt wrenching butthurt about their 10 burger commandments
>>690434809
ConservitvaievaevTerd?
>>690434613
You must be a dumb ass soldier then. Never got beyond private first class? Don't get me wrong, I fear when a retard has a gun, but 100% banning makes me think you werent much of a soldier. If youve seen what goes on out there, theres NO way youd want to disarm every citizen.
>>690434151
Again, you are not thinking long term. With those laws in place - anyone who is thinking about using a gun for gun crime has essentially committed suicide. You use a gun, you die. Simple. Sure there will still be suicidal fucks doing crazy shit, but given enough time and generations growing up being afraid to even touch a gun eventually we will have an evolved society that will look back on this time era and think how fucking retarded we all were for even having them.
IF you can't abide by the new rules of sport hunting with a licensed and trained supervisor then you don't deserve to hunt. It's simple, this is how you get rid of guns. Harsh rules and penalties. Sure the little man children will cry but eventually they and their mentality become history ... just like their guns.
>yfw you think up retarded end of world scenarios without your precious guns
>>690418509
>>>690433327
>Soviet Russia had perfect gun control and there wasn't gun ownership. The gun crime dropped to nothing. Stay mad, repubifuck.
Bareft of freedom, starving, and completely dependant on the state for everything? Nah, we've got Democrats for that here.
>>690433422
https://www.google.ca/search?q=toddler+shoots+mother&rlz=1C1CHBF_enCA693CA693&oq=toddler+shoots+mother&aqs=chrome..69i57.4761j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=toddler+shoots+mother&tbm=nws
just because you don't want to know the numbers doesn't mean they don't exist
>>690434844
Should i also remember this thread every time someone kills someone with a car? or due to alcohol? or drugs? or a knife? or a bat? or bricks? or any other of the fucking billions of ways accidents can happen?
>>690434844
His mom shoulda armed herself. Faggeeeet
>>690434844
Next time tyrone comes in a robs you at gunpoint, rapes your wife and daughter then shoots you... remember, you helped pass stricter gun control laws.
>>690434977
Sorry for the misunderstanding, I"M not the soldier, i was responding to a guy who said he was and is all for gun control. lol. But yes, i agree.
>>690434844
>next time you watch the news and a kid shoots his mom you'll remember this thread
fucking kek
>>690435132
Except Tyrone wouldn't have guns, you conservacuck.
>>690435064
Natural selection. Mom didn't deserve to have a kid, let alone a gun.
>>690435052
are you assuming there's a finite number of bad people or crazies? cuuuuuz. . . .there's not. new ones are born every day from normal people . . . .
>>690429867
Or maybe it's about being with a REAL man, something you obviously don't understand.
>>690435132
tyrone has a wife and job where i live. btw i live in a real country and not the united cucks of ameritrump
>>690434844
>trivializes the commandments
Not even christian but that made you look like a retard.
Oh, and if you were referring to the bill of rights, theyre called amendments.
>>690435064
The original argument was a 2 year old shooting his mother. Your link is complete shit. You should feel bad and never post again due to your ineptitude.
>>690435262
agreed. definitely
>>690435381
>agreed. definitely
I'm a gun owner and agree totally
>>690433224
I don't see limiting rights as education, but as control. Ending gun violence doesn't start with a ban on pistol grips; it starts with addressing socioeconomic inequality at home and abroad.
>>690435052
Really, so an Arab spring could never happen here right? A Ukrainian revolution could never happen here right?
>YFW you forget that bad shit happens and we aren't immune to it
>>690434755
There are literally tons of tuts online about how to successfully produce all of those drugs. All you require are the resources and the time without law enforcement/snitches.
>Orwellian
Yes, I am throwing out a crazy scenario but my original argument was about how you get rid of guns in America. You really would need a drastic measure like that.
>locking people up for a quarter ..
Again no, you get locked up for using a gun in a crime like robbing a store. If you hide your guns we would just give you a huge fine and then take your guns.
Thanks for actually taking the time to discuss it rather than just being a faggot like this guy:
>>690434714
>>690434367
>>690434132
You see, I don't support guns or warfare as a 3 time vet (CCT). Yeah, I know what you mean - Kanook brothaman. Evil is on the street so, better have a gun in the home, right? You get points for being pragmatic enough to want to defend your family from the evil hypotheticals running amok. Fear still wins. I've been shot, my foot looks like a fucked up alien hand/claw. Still don't need a firearm in my home. Strict pacifism and nonviolence is the only true doctrine. You think you've seen evil, Mr. Kanook?
>>690435165
My bad. Didnt read the whole thread cause im a lazy shit.
>>690435339
thou shalt not take away guns from our friendly local militia :^ )
ignore the white hoods and burning crosses and hanging niggers
Sandniggers invading Europe.
Rapage intensifies.
Hurr durr I want guns now!
America?
>>690418509
You've met americans. Now multiply that by 380 million. You'd wanna shoot everyone too.
>>690435240
Whatever utopia you think will happen, won't.
http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/underworld-inc/episodes/ghost-guns/
Fucking tard. Guns will never go away.
>>690435479
Hypotheticals? You're talking like they DONT exist. What wars did you serve in if you're saying that? The pony wars? The battle for fairy kingdoms doesn't count as war or being a soldier.
>>690435634
Yes they will, you just need gun control. Fucking dumb inbred.
>>690418509
Because Muricans REALLY need their big guns, see >>690430810
>>690418509
> eurofag ignorantly commenting on America
Omar Mateen was a fucking sandnigger. That bitch may have been born in America, but he always hated it.
Also, most responsible gun owners keep their firearms in safes or locked away so kids can't get to them. You can't stop stupid, moron.
>>690435240
Because that worked so well in France, right?
>>690435634
guns are fine. united states citizens need to control eachother. Maybe it's time for the lolocaust so all these "america is fine" posters can be correct for once
>>690434755
You need a chemistry set (makeshift or not), to make LSD, but if i remember the last time i looked that shit up, LSD is actually not that hard to make.
A lot of people tend to think that chemistry is super hard and you need ultra special ingredients to make anything worth a damn, but its really not that difficult. Even gunpowder is simple to make.
All gun control faggets are pussies.
All gun control pussies are jealous.
All gun control pusfags are afraid of everything and unable to wield any weapon skillfully enough to defend themselves from a flying jizzstream.
> I suck at guns so nobody should have them
> I suck at COD86 so ban this beedeo game
>>690435782
You didn't even look at the fucking link you FUCKING EXTRA CHROMOSOME HAVING CORKY MOTHER FUCKER.
>>690425600
Jesus Christ, what goes on in Greenland?
>>690434613
That's the beauty of anonymity. You can call bullshit all you want. I could claim to be anything I wanted. Laugh the pain away, /b/ro
>>690435307
Shut your goddam piehole, Tyrone. I need cotton swabs. Git goin now.
>>690435782
>Fucking dumb inbred.
>>690436020
Its the cold man. When youre constantly cold you want to warm up and the best way to do that is to send a .45 into someones face.
>>690434490
"Soviet Russia" was also a culturally and racially homogeneous society.
Your argument supports the idea that multicultural societies are violent and do no function peacefully.
>>690436006
>being this mad
This is why we can't have guns. Inbreds are too emotionally unstable and they have the highest gun ownership. Fuck you, faggot. I can't wait for gun control because the world would be safer without guns in the hands of sister fucking retards like you.
>>690435459
ThoooperKeK
>>690435634
I wouldnt say NEVER, but its going to take a LONG time. Millenia or more. Probably much longer.
>>690436006
>CORKY
topkek
>I understand this reference
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>>690418509
Go back to sleep, sweet sheep.
>>690435277
>>690435472
Sure there will still be criminals, but they won't have guns and they will still be held accountable under the full force of the law for whatever they do. You are getting off topic, we are talking about how you get rid of guns in America.
Sure there could be a revolution, but when you start talking about that you just sound like a crazy innawoods type - they type to actually start that kind of revolution. Those types of rebellions are not squashed by civilians but by military and law enforcement. Not sure how it applies to the issue - if you care to explain?
I'm pretty sure the Orlando shooting would've gone differently if someone else in the bar had a gun.
Europe is making their bed.
Let them lie in it.
