DEATH TO THE SYSTEM
https://www.politicalcompass.org/test
>>690219741
Libertarians are such fucking filth. At least you're not a right-libertarian. They're even worse.
>>690219741
jesus man
calm down
Deal with it, bros!
>>690219852
Hi, Lil' Putin!
>>690219829
Why?
>>690219741
KYS Libfag
>>690219943
The only correct answer
>>690220425
Thanks, /b/ro
Not too much libertarian bo an autist fuck, nor too much right wing to be a Trumpist racist
>>690219741
>>690219741
i think u dont understand politcal science. if you are on the left and that far down, it mean u want to do w/e u want but the govt to take care of u, pretty much a 7 year old.
when u go more to the right, you want to do what u want, but ur finally a grown up that works and wants to do wat he wants
>>690219943
Ayyyy
>>690220811
>literally this
Purple are the people that would give up most of their time to make the money to do w/e they want in their spare time giving a fuck about the bs laws now days.
>>690219741
Any thoughts?
>>690221231
Well fuk it if we all could afford a controller, then whats wrong with playing.
if you cant afford a controller go work to buy one whats wrong with that?
>>690221297
Comrade Kim!
>>690220811
You're calling me a 7 year old for my political ideology (when it's evident that you can't even begin to understand what my position in the spectrum actually represents), yet you type with the syntax, grammar and buzzwords of a heavily indoctrinated underage child. I don't get it.
>>690221106
No, dear memester. Purple are slaves to the capitalistic system and international corporations who will obediently follow orders when their heart is asking for freedom instead, living under the ilusion that one day they will be granted liberty. They won't.
>>690221169
Nice.
>>690221412
>>690221297
here you go
>>690221371
Because its my fucking console bitch boy, since i have a dick can i fuck your GF/mom? I mean if i have a dick then why cant i use it?
>>690221371
>>690221545
Amazing way to present the lack of any sort of counter-arguments.
>>690221412
The fuck is wrong with the capitalistic system and international corporations?
>>690219741
Hmmm.......
Apparently I'm close to Ghandi..... if only it was Civ Ghandi...
>>690221688
If you like it, so be it. I have no will to change your opinion, I was merely stating mine.
Nice Hitler dubes.
>>690221648
Ah, the dream...
>>690221759
Gotta nuke some rival civs, fam!
>>690221822
Thanks, fam!
Yours are also pretty cool
Pretty much exactly what I expected
Calm down mate
>>690221648
being a wage cuck and not opening a more efficient company
>>690221412
Literally if there were less regulations my small business would flourish
>>690222087
I was actually expecting be like that
>>690221678
I feel you've done that yourself.
>>690219741
>>690221412
an anarchist left which is Complete left and bottom makes 0 sense. Its like saying plz govt regulate thing and provide care but dont do anything.
>>690222172
I thought to be more authoritarian than that tbh
>>690221688
What's wrong is when they are manipulating states to their advantage to put their competitors out of business.
It's the opposite of real capitalism, and has been aptly named "crony capitalism" or "socialism for the rich"
>>690222115
>>690219741
>>690222443
perfect!
Leaning a bit to the left but mostly in the middle
>>690219741
>I don't know how the world works - The picture
I'm a proud Capitalist pig.
if you want to compare yourself
>>690222443
Spot on.
>>690222601
^^^^^^^^^
>>690222429
I am the PRIVATIZE THE POLICE guy
>>690222429
"The 24 types of strawmen"
>>690222669
Pinochet, is that you!?
>>690221231
Def purple as usual
>>690222429
Briefly Tempting reporting in
>>690222766
The helicopter rides never was so real
>>690220003
>SAY IT LOUD, SAY IT CLEAR, REFUGEES ARE WELCOME HERE
no thanks
Reminder that anything other than the blue square is retarded and you should be ashamed
Lot of Libertarian assholes in this thread.
>>690222429
gosh we are so cool
>>690223285
Even our strawmen are the best
>>690222429
isn't that the same comic ''artist'' that made the ''types of anti-feminists''?
>>690223362
Kill yourself
Purple pride ftw
>>690223496
Welcome brother
>>690223362
That's just right.
>>690223362
nah
>>690223473
Looks like he did.
Now I hate him.
![stock-photo-mature-businessman-shrugs-in-an-indifferent-way-isolated-on-white-72450985[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/KiXzjDp.jpg "stock-photo-mature-businessman-shrugs-in-an-indifferent-way-isolated-on-white-72450985[1].jpg")
>>690219741
MFW I do tests on the internet and never "Strongly" anything anymore because I am now a tired old man who don't give a shit about anything.
read sum ayn rand fagts
>>690219741
Get on my level SJW faggots
>>690223668
you don't even care enough to purchase stock photos for fucks sake
>>690223672
As a fellow purple, I don't like Ayn Rand...
>>690223802
Nobody has been in the top left.
No SJWs here.
>>690223627
kek, don't hate that cuck, laugh at him
>>690219741
I'm too lazy to do this tonight but last time I did, I landed about .5 more libertarian. Good shit comrade
>>690223950
Top left is honest SJW, green square is SJW's under the delusion they're infact fascists
>>690223672
This one was my favorite.
>>690224021
truth, marxism has many forms
>>690224049
it is, the douche gets the money and gets the girl
I don´t really get why I am where I am. A friend of mine is a somewhat moderate version of the left wing liberals(aka he won´t sperg out if I disagree with him which is moderate for them) and we basically disagree on everything related to social issues.
Either this test is ridicolously biased towards the left or Germanys right wing is Americas left wing.
>>690223592
Most of these are close. A few are retarded.
>activism as political ideology
>>690224021
except fascists are in the top right.
The exact opposite of green.
>>690223672
If you're that far left, Rand clearly didn't sink in.
>>690224191
Now there's a good proposal to put a chick on the money
Though she hated fiat money like ours, so it'd be ironic
No need to go For a test...
...full Anarchist Here
Also check My trips
>>690223979
fucking hell, Barry
>>690223979
Is that neck stubble?
Somehow that is worse than a neck beard.
>>690224083
But it's genesis all been all in National Socialism and then Fascism.
>>690224326
>Fascists
>Less market regulations
>>690223627
Pretty good actually. Humorously very weak, but provides a good overview. Very internet age of him to assume all antifeminists are middle aged though, when clearly most of them are around 12.
>>690224202
German politics is as a whole left of American politics, but not that much. The test really is biased left, I've taken it a ton of times.
>>690223855
Ikr
>>690224316
some people are professional activists
>>690224480
Ha, in a thread full of libertarians you somehow manage to be the dumbest person in the room.
>>690224470
yup, the irony even goes deeper, feminists wanted a women on the money and Ayn was voted (by the internet)
>>690224485
What the fuck man.
>>690223979
Officially sperglord
>>690224542
Not all the way to the top right.
More like top middle, with a skew to the right.
>>690224727
Kek, that's gold
>>690224642
True, but that doesn't mean that there's any political phillsophy that can be defined as "activism." There are activists on all sides. Methinks the creator of the chart just wanted all the squares to be the same.
>>690224695
>>690224886
Just bare this in mind anon.
Hitler saw Capitalism as the personification of Jews & Jewish culture
Mussolini was the first politician in history to offer public funds to Artists and Theaters to get them on side with the Italian National Party
>>690224946
Krugman is a colossal idiot. It's always confused me why anyone listens to a word he says, yet somehow he's the most respected economist of our time.
So basically he's the reincarnation of John Maynard Keynes.
>>690225095
Cool they did some left wing stuff.
Fascists are still in the top blue dumbass
>>690223979
he also made this, I've seen this plastered all over facebook, fuck this SJW bullshit
>>690225053
You're the worst type of person.
>>690225108
Thank you
>>690225314
They based their ideas and successes on left-wing stuff. That's not something you shrug off.
>>690225108
Classical Keynesianism makes more sense than Neo-Keynesians these days though
>>690222669
Jesus. Does it hurt having the government's cock so far up your ass its impregnated your brain?
>>690225348
why? at least he won't give you shit
>>690223979
Clearly got a wig on.
>>690225343
holy fuck, how stupid can one cartoonist be?
>>690225581
he really belives this shit, he really belives people are racist like this... maybe he's projecting
>>690223979
he is such a neckberad that he made a ''comic'' about it
>>690225476
Some elements of classical Keynesianism make sense on a short-term basis, but it's idiotic to base government policy on such shortsighted policies, and modern Keynesianism is a disaster entirely.
>tfw we've had harsher recessions more often since adopting an economic view meant to mitigate them than we did when the government didn't give a shit
>>690225811
If anything that cartoon is illuminating to what rampant political correctness has done to people's minds.
I move my shit for people on the train all the time, its of no consequence to me if they're black, the seat's available they probably want to sit down.
Anarchist.
>anarcho-""""communism""""
doesn't exist m8
I thought I'd be more to the right.
>>690225984
this only holds up in a massive reduction in population
>>690225811
he is definitely projecting.
>i'm so sorry I have racist thoughts sometimes.
>please forgive my sins.
And andrea dworkin said unto him.
>Check your Privilege
>Say 20 hail anita's
>spread the true faith through your comics.
>>690225581
You're possibly confusing "stupid" with "unfunny" and/or "of differing opinion". The gag is kind of clever, it just makes you angry because you feel he is expressing other political views than your own.
>>690225901
Holy fuck this is the most autistic neckbeard thing I've ever read.
>>690225984
Eh like with the whole "should Greece/US use austerity measures to recover",
Why the fuck would you lower wages and raise taxes in a bust? to be consistent with Keynes theory you would do that in the boom, the opposite of what has been done in Greece, and what some Neo-Keynesians were proposing for the US.
>>690225901
oh man, this tell us so much about this dude.
Nice find.
>>690226130
just like most of those SJW betas, most of them are pedophiles, molested or sexualy assaulted a women in their life or have legitlly been racist, they are so sorry but can't distance their own life and story from th lives of other men, so if they are guilty every man is.
>>690226181
I don't know any employers who give one iota of a fuck about gender.
They all give 100% of a fuck about prior experience and education, skills etc.
>>690222604
as an econ grad PhD im ok with my results.
>>690220811
these are my results. not sry that i believe in facts and representative data instead pf group culture
>>690226333
IMO any government tampering is dumb, but shit like that redefines stupidity.
>>690226079
wouldn't collectivism - individualism be more accurate than cosmos (again maybe if theres 3 people alive it could work in grandeur stations) and nationalism, which is just a segregated part of cosmop..
and auth- anarch? you mean subservience up to freedom/leader down
>>690225811
>>690226055
>>690226130
It's called self-mockery, an introspective type of humor. Kind of funny strip about how a lot of poor sods are struggling with themselves in everyday life. I don't really get why it upsets you.
>>690226573
leader by voluntarism that is
ur not really a leader if its by force its just a temporary fallacy..
>>690223496
barely a capitalist but once u start making real money and being a productive member of society, u will realize ur freedoms
>>690225901
Goddamn. What a faggot. I don't even know where to begin.
>>690221231
Fixed
>>690226789
So the Human Beings are the people who want people to die in the street if they are too poor to do something about it?
I think that might be a bit off.
>>690226789
litetally
Why cant people understand they have their best interests at heart and not their govt
>>690226570
I agree with you, but pragmatically the New Keynesian's make no sense compared to the ideas of their father.
>>690226982
>People don't care about the poor until the government tells them too
>>690226573
if it was collectivism to individualism it would be on the vertical axis.
auth-anarch is economic freedom and personal freedom, you can only have truly authoritarian governments that are also communist. and you can only have true anarchy with economic freedom. so that works.
r8
>>690227160
oh so you're just saying current epoch or use of what mass collectivism perceives centralised government to be; currently, statism as nationalistic government country states from belphor dec being a loose grouping of linguo-ethnicities
>>690226589
because he is a racist and sexist himself but wants to police other people, what they say and think and calling them racist and sexist
Left libertarian. We have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, in that order.
I pay taxes, and I want to see that money spent to help people that are struggling, not on government control of everything (red square), militarized colonialism (blue square). Dog-eat-dog anarchy is also no way to run a society (purple square).
>>690226982
I would rather teach a man to fish
>>690226691
I'm sitting on 14K € and i'm woried about the future of my country and my freedoms.
>>690227532
You're the reason we can't have nice things
Economic Freedom is Social Freedom
>>690227670
except that corporations will gleefully exploit every weakness in a human being to make more money. other than that, i agree with you.
>>690227787
corporations arent real people just legal ones
and legal people are stock in a corporation of their countries birth certs
>>690227670
Capitalism is pretty until you become a victim of it and can't do anything. A society without compassion is social darwinism. Purple square people are happy until they encounter a string of bad luck, then what? Go die in a corner?
>>690227947
bottom line, countries arent real and its a trick to continue ur perpetuated subservience, invisible chains in ur minds and methods of thinking.
>>690227787
Here's the problem with your statement
>An economic structure can logically be compared to social Darwinism
>Assumes Large Corporations are the sole functioning business unit
>>690228055
>Assumes Large Corporations are the sole functioning business unit
for all intents and purposes, they are. the impact of small businesses on the economy, especially in an economic structure that allows whoever has the most money and the least scruples to dominate, is almost zero.
>>690227331
yes
>>690228034
See >>690228055
Except with your statement, I will point out that you acknowledge that people experience misfortune out of their control aka "bad luck" but you expect the Government to somehow maintain control over something or compensate for something as universally unchangeable as luck.
You seem to think the government is some sort of extra-universal deity that can revert and switch the laws of reality on a whim
>>690228207
That is grossly untrue, and a somewhat one-dimensional view of economies.
If as you suggest competition was a myth, I ask you why does coca-cola have to advertise?
Everyone knows and has heard of Coca-cola, its the standard soda of choice for numerous restaurants fast food and not. Why must they advertise?
>>690228251
No, I expect government to provide a safety net for people that slip between the cracks.
I knew a girl who was 17, both parents died in a car accident and she had no other family. She had fairly severe diabetes, and needed an insulin pump. As soon as she turned 18, her medicaid stopped, and she hadn't graduated high school yet. What is a good capitalist to do?
Maybe 50 years ago a high school dropout could find work at 18 and pay for their own medical care, but it's functionally impossible now. The state's advice? Get pregnant so you can get back on medicaid...
>>690228239
itll trend irrelevence as the predominantly white predominantly anglo saxon englishized world groups. ie commonwealth & america. whats left is the shitpot of europe converting to one unified language and soft drugs being "legalised" (the laws unlegal - jurisprudence) - real industry
>>690228456
competition between large corporations and small businesses is a myth in the anarcho-capitalist ideal. a much larger company could, given free reign to do whatever it sees fit, simply either buy out or drive out every single upstart and dominate. you would be left with a small number of much larger conglomerates and only the illusion of brand choice, as everything would be owned by one of this small number of conglomerates.
oh wait, that's already happening isn't it?
if we go any further into the "absolutely free market" one could make this chart for absolutely every single brand and service in the US with maybe twice as many in the center.
>>690228694
soft drugs will help the transition very nicely and the economic boom that will be sanctioned off it.
>controlled hands
>>690228693
So your complaint with the government is that it doesnt help out enough, and this is somehow private individual's fault?
>>690228821
So you're further cementing my point.
I ask again, why does Coca-Cola need to advertise?
>>690227470
Well that particular comic is not a very good example of that, now is it?
from the land of Gandhi, it is not a surprise
>>690228981
the point your trying to make doesn't prove anything. "anyone can start a business and that means big companies still have to be competitive" only applies to the small group in the center. yes, coca-cola still has to advertise against pepsi, but neither are small businesses, both are enormous multi-billion-dollar conglomerates that own dozens of brands each. having to advertise doesn't mean the system is fair at all.
Reminder,if you are in the purple you may be slightly misguided, if you're blue or red then you should fucking end it and if you're a central libertarian leaning then you probably have your head on properly. If you lean too far left you need to calm down.
If you dismiss someone in the green for being "an sjw" then you might be mentally deficient.
>>690229198
ur delusioned unless u own a gun and are shooting state officials
>>690229007
I saw all of them, there are on his patreon, also that is a common trait among the SJWs
>>690228593
You faggot, everybody knows that centrists are just too big a pussies to choose a side.
>>690219741
These questions are so fucking shit it's hard to answer them
>>690229138
reminder that your people still cannot shit in toilets correctly in 2016
>>690228907
No, i actually think our government is doing a pretty good job. I'd like to see medicine socialized and the tax code simplified (the rules simplified, not taxes cut), but otherwise I'm not too unhappy. For the record, I acknowledge that "free" college will just trivialize education and dramatic hikes in minimum wage will just trigger hyper-inflation, neither of which improve the health of society.
People that feel they're being "punished" because they're being taxed to collectively pay for things like health care for the poor need to reevaluate the alternative; letting people die in the streets so they don't have to pay the extra 2% to government? That's not society.
My taxes pay for things like the fire department and military, and my house has never burned down or been invaded by China, so shouldn't I get the right to complain about all the money I "wasted" there?
>>690229192
Let's unpack that, so
As you've shown and said, massive conglomerates vastly wealthy and powerful, correct?
Why would they need to advertise? aren't consumers just stupid no nothing morons, who just consume whatever they are told? incorrect
and this is PROVEN by the fact these massive conglomerates have to advertise because consumers have a choice, they are still in COMPETITION for the consumer's business and attention.
>>690229582
and what exactly does this prove that disproves what i've said so far?
>>690229680
You've said multiple times competition is a myth, yet even in the most monopolized of markets, there is still competition amongst the monopolists
>>690229792
and how is that fair, at all, to small businesses? in such a system, competing against that group of huge corporations is absolutely fucking impossible.
>>690222443
100% accurate
>>690229501
>what I'd like to see is what the collective wants to see
and this is how socialism leads to fascism or totalitarian states 100% of the time, the edgy kids think what they want solely, is what everyone wants and they'll stop at nothing until everyone gets what they want.
>>690229582
HAHAHAHAHA
Existence of marketing implies muh freedom of choice! Only in America!
>>690229971
>proves competition is existent even in the most dire of market conditions
>still says its impossible
>>690229971
Not that guy, but...
Don't start a business with the same model as a gigantic monopoly? Like I'm not gonna start a department store to compete with Wal-Mart, but I can start a small specialty store and branch out slowly if my business is successful.
>>690230071
too many deodorant choices! too little breadlines!
ITT people unironical believing that anything left is not communism
>>690219741
>implying you can be that far left and still in any way libertarian
>known to the rest of the world as liberal, but you know, murica
This scale should be a downward triangle. You can't have strong opinions about how to place tax money if you don't believe in collecting taxes.
> trap
> European
>>690230042
So caring if a class of people live or die, and preferring that they live, leads to fascism? Got it.
>>690230118
in an absolute free-market economy, even if you create the most amazing product or service imaginable in a completely untapped sector of the market, the first thing that would happen is that every huge corporation would see your success and immediately offer to buy you out. eventually, if you, the owner of this small business, continuously reject their buyout offers, they will find other ways to shut down your business. you cannot be allowed to exist. that small group of big companies completely own and run the entire economy. a grand total of maybe 20-30 companies own everything in the country. how does that enable a healthy economy, again? what's stopping cliques inside of that corporatocracy from colluding against consumers to maximize profits? laws? not in an absolutely free market.
>>690230369
If you need rich bureaucrats to tell you to care for your peers, you need to grow up fast. This isn't middle school son
>>690230248
>people unironical believing
>people
>unironical
>believing
Based on your atrocious grammar, I'm 100% certain that you don't know anything about "communism".
Why are you all so retarded?
>>690229971
>competing against that group of huge corporations is absolutely fucking impossible.
How exactly? There is a reason why people often enjoy going to the local pizzeria down the street instead of the Dominoes/Papa Johns/Pizza Hut....Why? Because small businesses have a certain flavor and attention to detail that most chains cannot replicate due to their company being so widespread.
This is just one example of small business competing with big business. Unfortunately big business has brainwashed people like you into thinking heavy regulation is beneficial to an economy when in actuality you're just creating a barrier that small businesses have problems overcoming, thus eliminating more and more competition for big business as regulations and taxes become more and more significant.
>>690230523
That sucks that these people are suffering. Too bad it would take like 1000 of me to do anything about it.
If only there were some organized entity that would let us pool our resources in such away that enabled us to have services that benefit the collective. But there's not, so fuck it.
>>690230428
sigh
So assuming a business could function as a huge corporation exposed to free market conditions, you would THEN have to assume all their operating revenue wasn't being taken up in the vast expenses of keeping a business that large operating, for them to even have the time/resources to find out about the new untapped products/section and then have the resources to do market resource on said new product to make sure the risk is low enough that aren't going to go bust and fuck off their share holders, and THEN make the offer to buy out.
You clearly have no idea how business, the real world works
>>690229445
Underestimated post. Some of the questions are so illogically phrased it makes me angry just thinking about gracing them with an answer.
>>690230576
>There is a reason why people often enjoy going to the local pizzeria down the street instead of the Dominoes/Papa Johns/Pizza Hut....Why? Because small businesses have a certain flavor and attention to detail that most chains cannot replicate due to their company being so widespread.
yes, this exists right now. the united states isn't a 100% free market. what i'm saying is that such places wouldn't exist in a 100% free market economy. remove all restrictions on businesses and what you end up with is a few big dogs eating the smaller ones up. you lose the small businesses not because people will magically choose to only give their money to the big ones, but because the big ones, now free of any regulations, will buy that small pizza place, leave its branding and everything else intact, and take all of the money from its operation. you will have a rich entrepreneur who never has to work again and a conglomerate with another brand under its belt.
>>690230833
admittedly i'm not an entrepreneur, myself. however, companies already toe the line on what kind of profit-maximizing shit they can get away with even when regulations exist. why would i expect a pitbull pulling its leash taut to not attack when i let go of said leash?
Economic Left/Right: -1.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.08
>>690230776
>I have to solve all the world's problems at once on my own
again, grow the fuck up, small pieces at a time, you're not the only one who cares about the unfortunate.
There would be 8 fold times the people acting on their concern for the unfortunate, if your goddamn 12 year old feels weren't taken seriously by politicians and they weren't taxing people's concern out of them.
>>690220601
>Trumpist racist
>/b/ actually believes the leftist memes
Fucking hell this board has gone to utter shit
>>690230999
nice trips
But profit maximizing = low overheads = small operating structure, so logically what would follow in exposure to free market conditions is that corporations would not exist, and if they did, would exist for short periods of time.
>>690231273
explain this one to me, please. i am admittedly not versed on the nuances of this topic and just use common sense.
>>690231023
I'm not here to solve the world's problems, just offering my opinion in a thread that's necessarily an opinionated shitstorm.
Also pointing out the irony that organized government already exists to accomplish goals we collectively agree on, like not getting invaded at the national level and not having everyone's house burn down that the local level. The mechanism for "helping the unfortunate" already exists, and I agree with it, so I'm defending it.
What is interesting is i'm not trying to be as someone, this is just a lot of thinking through the years. Not saying its how it should work though, just that i answered very naturally.
>>690231135
Actual kek
If you believe this has ever been the place for Donald Trump level intellectuals, you are misinformed.
>>690231412
Businesses want to maximize their revenue/gross profit margin
So they have to keep costs low, including the costs associated with keeping the business running.
Without a government to subsidize or give grants, businesses would be solely expected to make up these costs themselves, so a business can only grow so large before it becomes unprofitable to keep it so large, and thus would sell off parts of the business until it returned to a size that was profitable.
Economic Left/Right: -3.0
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.51
? Help Please
Am I Commie scum?
>>690231846
Actually, /b/ and /pol/ used to have quite a large common userbase, though that has severely diminished over the years
>>690231880
i gotta say, this makes a certain kind of sense. will probably do some more reading on this topic over the weekend. in the very least, you made me think about it.
>>690232026
you're up there, but commies would still kill you
>>690231622
Government's social programs never have ever reached their goals though, if you want to measure the viability of an entity based on their achievement of their goals, the government is DEAD last.
>>690232356
>I'll fucking shot you
>Shot
>>690232131
Its very much the reality of business, the truth is big corporations hate free markets, which is why none of them will fund Libertarian candidates.
Give this book a read, its the key to understanding how the market redistributes wealth. A good modern example would be Uber, anyone with a smart phone and a car can make upwards of $60k
>>690232462
Is this your biggest problem with this guys writing?
>>690219741
Ive always felt more of a nazi then a commie...
>>690232594
thanks for actually debating me instead of just resorting to calling me an idiot, as i likely wouldn't have considered your side of the argument any other way.
>>690232915
Idiot
>>690232915
Its not a problem anon, its no crime to be uneducated on business.
Education can only be achieved with tolerance.
>>690233200
and you were doing so well, too.
>>690232358
Except for funding the development of technology. 14:1 ROI on the public tax dollar.
Based on the profitability of the technologies developed during the war and space race, that the public paid for, the gov funded with the blind intent of pure research, and then just gafe away to any private company who could think of a use for it, which yielded the greatest era of innovation and development and commerce the worlds ever seen, THAT is the ideal role of this cultures government... fubding the R&D efforts no conpany could afford or make an immediate business plan out of. It's the only profitable branch of government there is. ...profitable to the public anyway.
>>690222429
Terrified reporting in
>thanks shillary
>>690232915
faggot
>>690233291
>Education can only be achieved with tolerance.
very true.
>>690233319
u srs nigga?
>>690232358
Department of War renamed Department of Defence 1949.
>>690232594
the only real option left is a Spartan State Utopia ruled by Philosophical God Kings
>>690233686
>Vietnam
>Korea
>>690232594
>the truth is big corporations hate free markets, which is why none of them will fund Libertarian candidates.
Consider me redpilled. This never fucking occurred to me and I'm embarrassed by that fact.
not too surprised.
>>690233838
You probably didn't think much about business and markets unless you were specifically educated in such in college, so there's no need to be embarrassed, its not something they choose to educate you on by default.
>>690234070
just scrolled up and checked the rest - am i really the only right/authoritarian on this shithole? What is so bad about being told what to do? It's the natural order, free will is the cause of almost all of the world's problems today.
we get a bad rap because everyone is like "lol whats up hitler", but you can have these beliefs without exterminating Jews even if you do believe they are subhuman.
>>690234228
It's the fact that no corporations fund Libertarians that I didn't consider. If big corporations would benefit from a totally free-market, we'd have them in office almost guaranteed. It has nothing to do with specific education, this right here is a lapse in logical thinking.
Fuck
>>690233836
Yuri Bezmenov's "Normalised" situ.
>>690234372
I guess everyone on here are lib shits, what a surprise.
>>690234228
Not the other guy, but I'm gonna be studying economics next year, and I've done 2 years of basic business. Why wouldn't a business like a free market?
not surprised to be honest..
>>690219852
i got the same shit
>>690219741
filthy hippy
>>690234900
This.
People who are against monopolies and deceptive business practices just seem like people that are jealous that they didn't take the opportunity first. If a company establishes a monopoly, it just means they took initiative and won the market. In an ideal world, the only way a monopoly should be broken is by a competitor doing what it takes to replace them.
It's the same thing with socialism. You want your success in life to be guaranteed through legislation. We aren't entitled to shit, go out and earn it.
>>690234430
I have the perfect example for you guys.
In Australia there is a home electronics and whitegoods business called Harvey Norman. Its owner Gerry Harvey is your typical 'big business' advocate who grew a small chain of stores into a nationwide, all consuming one. They capitalize on the materialism and stupidity of people to get them into debt and make far more than would otherwise be possible. He used the 'free market' to his advantage.
Now fast forward to recent years when the ability to buy from overseas, particularly the US, has slashed his profits. Mr. Monopoly then starts declaring that there should be protection for 'Aussie' businesses with a tax on items purchased online under $1000. Liberal (Centre-right party) government have committed to it. So much for belief in the market, Gerry.
>>690234430
That's exactly right, but it's this sort of critical thinking that isn't taught in public schools.
>>690234693
>>690235003
I have this kind of critical thinking elsewhere, but my blind hatred of enormous megacorps fucked me out of making this association. That is what I'm embarrassed about.
I'm not an extremist...
>>690234997
manipulative language supposing 'free market' = usury, loans at interest
>>690234997
Exactly. "Free market" types tend to change their tune when market forces don't work to their advantage anymore.
>>690234711
Modern Economics, is just how to lie with statistics.
Corporations don't like free markets, not all businesses
>>690219741
Thoughts?
>>690234711
Under normal circumstances it should, however modern corporations get huge benefits from our modern mixed economy - like utility companies that have government-granted monopolies in their service area, or the Big 3 automakers who can never be displaced, as government regulations as too stringent for a startup to ever meet, or just all the companies that get subsidies and bailouts out the wazoo.
Free markets are good for small and new businesses and in the long run are good for the economy as a whole. Large, established businesses are perfectly happy to have their place cemented by government.
>>690235115
yes you are, fucking hippy
>>690234985
The historical record argues otherwise. When companies in the past have achieved monopoly they've stymied any rivals' attempts to compete with them by undercutting their finances or outright forcing them out of business. That means that there's basically no way for a monopoly to be toppled from within the system, which is why government oversight is required to prevent it. Even the Libertarian Party agrees with this, bud.
>>690235198
Liberal faggot
ur all idiots
corporations=/=monopolies
retards
corp fm yes
mon fm no
>>690234997
>They capitalize on the materialism and stupidity of people
commie confirmed. This chucklefuck would be against production based economics, but furiously opposes materialism while advocating for more spending on the economy to get consumerism going!
>>690235343
I mean in theory, if a business can maintain a monopoly over time then it must be providing the best service the most cheaply.
>>690235145
Yes, which as we know is the root of much misery. No wonder 'they' want us to aim toward a house, car (or two), demanding partner and the latest gadgets. A man with no debt is a dangerous one.
>>690235244
I just view you all as political casuals.
SNP are the only ones willing to think right.
Followed by the Greens, but their dumb policies on nuclear power annoy me greatly.
>>690235405
>materialism IS the stupidity of people
jkrishnamurti.org
>>690235405
Wrong again, simpleton.
>>690235561
*tips fedora*
>>690235343
>even the libertarian party agrees with this
and that's supposed to lend credence to it? Libertarians are almost as bad as the socialists.
>>690235561
You sound sorta like Hitler in "Look Who's Back."
I used to be a lefty. What's happened to me this election cycle.
on societal destabalisaton: "never bother about the leftists, aim higher" HAHAHAH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLqHv0xgOlc
>>690235668
All for supply-side economics and completely against Keynes are we?
such a dumb test
>>690235924
Btw #GaryJohnson2016
>>690235222
Jesus Christ never thought about this.
What can be done about this then? Big Corps will never fund candidates who are pro-free-market, which means they will never get into power to undo this mess.
>>690235986
Yeah just open my borders up fam. Fuck off, have fun with a US full of brown people driving down the wages
>>690235973
this. The questions are so obviously written with no neutral option so you get whatever result you want. Like you can easily spot the "this will put you more into the blue/whatever if y ou agree with it" ones.
That said, you're a faggot for choosing to be a degenerate socialist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYedTmaHt1A
provocateurs,shills and disinfo agents
fuck i cant dystopia aka government explicitly military as we have it. full blown schizophrenics, mentally retarded,led by senicide
Gandhi too
>>690235198
I'm at about where Gandhi would be.
It's actually what I expected about.
>>690236074
you might yet actually have to do some work for a day in your life pinko
>>690235986
>voting
>>690236044
The system has to be changed by force. One cannot try and play the game to win 'normally'. Even if you play by the rules, THEY won't.
>>690236294
Fucking casual
>>690236044
That's the problem here. The issue is that there's a very, very small number of candidates who even want to approach corporate reform from a free-market perspective, and while most of the people (at least on the right) would support it, the donors never would.
>>690236356
Trump will be the one to bring back jobs into the US my dude. I won't get a job if more Pablo's are allowed in and get a free pass. If Islam isn't stopped I'll die before getting a good job.
>>690236412
I also believe in letting people kill themselves and preventing people from having more than a single child for the next 100 years so...
>>690236393
I don't believe in force unless absolutely necessary. I'd much rather see us try to address the issues peacefully. Now if America is retarded and decides to go in the opposite direction from where we need to, then it might be revolution time. But hopefully that won't be in our lifetimes.
>>690236393
criminals dont follow laws
then try to create rules and pretend they are laws
backed again by schizophrenic dystopic insanity of the genuinely mentally ill, carstrated & retarded.
>>690236393
who's going to change the system? A bunch of pasty nerds wielding 20 dollar katanas? There is no beating the US unless the military itself is leading the revolution. But why would they do that? They get a pretty sweet deal nowadays. You have your whiners but most of them just go to the desert, get fat and do paperwork.
Argumentum ad baculum (Latin for "argument to the cudgel" or "appeal to the stick"), also known as appeal to force, is an argument where force, coercion, or the threat of force, is given as a justification. It is a specific case of the negative form of an argument to the consequences.
Argumentum ad baculum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_baculum
prohibition simply doesnt work ur an autistic caveman otherwise
>>690236510
>my dude
>my sides
ahahahah
>MUH SODAS
>>690236602
The only way a revolution would be feasible would be for the left to do something unpalatable to the military. So basically Bernie Sanders would have to win and then actually do what he says, and then MAYBE the military would get pissed enough to stage a coup.
But it's still unlikely, revolution talk is silly. Buy guns, train with them, be ready, but don't expect it.
>>690236230
the whole idea of a political scale as a sticker or badge is so dumb... it feels like it disregards circumstance more than it does anything else
the "social/political system" is much more complex than this shit excuse and byproduct of social division
individuals have interests, usually with the nature of evolution as the only static attribute of people, it is to collaborate with one and other, develop trust and reach higher.
There is no other static defining characteristic of a person unless they are an anomaly, which then again, is uncertain because for the above characteristic to exist, trust is needed to be invested in others
This thread is full of filthy communists, let's fix it
>>690236564
How else do you propose removing the cancer within? Democracy is an illusion. The cards are reshuffled but we get the same hand.
>>690236828
no one should give two flying fucks about any of this basically and it should be something as intuitive as breathing to society
>>690236882
hello brother. You're getting a little too close to the center for my liking, but much better than the greenfags infesting this board.
This is why I didn't vote.
>>690236751
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>>690236393
Western countries today are practically revolution proof, though. The media has become too deeply ingrained in our day to day life, and would stop enough of the population from supporting a revolution by keeping the facts from the people, and blatantly lying instead.
Whenever the people become rebellious, the media starts reporting some fucking crisis that makes people turn to the Government for support. Look at the past few years and all the fear-mongering that went on with the Ukraine Crisis, ISIS, Ebola, Charlie-Hebdo and the Paris attacks. Even though we live in the most peaceful era of human history, people are far too paranoid to take up arms against the thing they are convinced is stopping them from being overrun by legions of shit.
1984 comes to mind; "Until they have become conscious they will never rebel, and until after they have rebelled they cannot become conscious."
>>690234900
This just shows how you literally have no idea about any other opinions or ideology but your own
>>690236602
People who see through the bullshit and will not be tempted by the perks of being a treacherous, self serving politician.
>>690237099
We are the Proles.
>>690237099
i think it has less to do with the media and more to do with the fact that the US military, police and national guardsmen is an unstoppable force. Even if every non-military citizen in the country joined forces, we'd have absolutely no chance. One nuke dropped on somewhere like NYC or LA by the government and it would break the will of 90% of the people. It's silly to fight a battle you know you can't possibly win.
>>690219741
Death to libtards.
Every real libertarian should (approx.) get this graph.
>>690237099
Which is why we appeal to them, the ones we want to be part of the future, in ways they will understand; and likely respond to. The masses are pacified by their entertainment and pursuits but many of the problems they themselves identify can be solved.
>>690237381
The military is composed of the people though. Soldiers are not mindless robots, they are people at the end of the day, and in a civil war, there would be soldiers who desert and fight on the side of the revolutionaries. Look at the Spanish Civil war, where a great deal of the Spanish military deserted and supported the Nationalists under Franco.
A Government nuking it's own people would be a surefire way of assuring a revolution. It would instantly make everyone conscious of their Government's tyranny, and would only intensify a revolt.
Daily reminder: Its not a square.
