This shit pisses me off.
So they convicted a 94 year old former Auschwitz guard of 170,000 counts of accessory to murder in Germany today. They said he did nothing to stop an illegal criminal organization. I don't understand this. Hitler was the law of the land in Germany from 1930 until 1944. Anything he did and any policy he enacted was legal. There were no human rights contracts at the time. There was no Geneva convention. There was nothing. How the fuck was this lowly 20 year old prison guard supposed to stop mass murder at Auschwitz? If the guy speaks up, they kill him and his family.
Add some more fuel to the propaganda that is the Holocaust. The Holocaust... keeping the Jews and Israel blameless for 70 years.
>>690078670
> no Geneva convention
Try harder dood
>>690078864
The Geneva Convention Agreements happened in 1949 as a response to WWII.
>>690078972
Except the first 3, which were before
>>690078864
>>690078972
There were 4 Geneva conventions, however, OP may be wrong about that, but he isn't wrong about the conviction. What was the guy supposed to do? Hitler brainwashed an entire generation. This is like convicting US soldiers for going to Iraq. When you are drafted, you have to do what youre told.
>>690079535
US soldiers in Iraq aren't supposed to systematically kill people on an industrial scale.
and a guard at auschwitz would have been able to help some escape or at least use his authority to protect a couple of inmates.
He was SS, so he was a volunteer.
>>690078670
Who cares, at 94 years old i bet he doesnt give a fuck.
Hell be dead soon
>>690081120
if they started telling you its time to start killing of everyone whilst in Iraq or whatever country, you damn well do what you're told
>>690078670
Fuck him as far as I'm concerned.
He could've fled the country but he didn't. Probably because he enjoyed being a part of the Nazi murder machine.
The only bad part about this is they didn't convict him sooner.
Out of curiosity what is his name?
>>690081922
alternatively, you act like a respectable human being who has morals and ethics.
>>690082037
Reinhold Hanning
>>690078670
Shut the fuck up you retard. He was a fucking Nazi faggot. Fuck the nazis. He deserves to be raped to death
>>690078670
BWWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
hope that nazi bitch rots!
>>690081922
You sound like the kind of person that always does what their told. You know that makes you a fucking coward right?
>>690082394
*they're
Whatever. My spelling does not negate my point. You're still a coward.
>>690078670
For what it's worth, I partly agree with you, OP.
Not so much about "muh homocaust, keeping the Jews blameless," but certainly about this guy's sentence.
It's easy to philosophize from the armchair, as it were. But, really, how much should we really expect from a 20-something young man, caught up in something seemingly infinitely bigger than he.
I'm not one of these stormfront, pol fags, but I try my best to think beyond ideology, and I just don't see the value in this conviction.
>>690078670
>keeping the Jews and Israel blameless for 70 years.
good... good.. I can sense your hate, your anger. It gives you focus.. and makes you stronger!
Keep digging though it gets a lot worse as you go along.
Fuck the Jews I am so glad that millions of them died during he nazi regime.
>>690082394
lmfao, so you try to help the jews escape and if they catch you they murder you and everyone you care about. You're a pussy and you'd do the same regardless of your morals.
You're retarded, stay behind your keyboard and craft shit up you idiot
>>690082591
>I just don't see the value in this conviction
The value is to set a precedent so that in the future if a similar atrocity is happening perhaps some of the people involved will stop it.
Also probably partially to get some vengeance/closure for the victims.
The nazi war machine was meant to churn out people who enjoyed to be controlled and go along with anything without questioning morality and the value of life. I'm not saying they're weren't good people inside the war machine it's self because a lot of them risked there lives to help people from certain death. All I'm saying is bureaucrats and sheep tend to run the show in numbers and not reason
>>690078670
I don't think he should be convicted at this point in time, as he was young and caught up in the times. Besides, what was he supposed to do? Attempt to start a rebellion from within and overthrow Hitler? Crappy arguement imo.
holy shit everyone but OP is a fucking retard on this post.
for example, lets say the country is in a bad place,money is tight, employment is low and the country was being told what to do by other countries leaving room for little to no democracy
So a new party comes into power promising all these things will change and your country will soon be powerful again
Lots of people vote for this party, and it comes into power. Thenit is announced that allthe nig nogs are the cause of this problem, and they should be boycotted and not treated fairly because of all the shit they have caused as a race.
You are systematically brainwashed into thinking all this is true and that they are to blame, so you dont stop it.
Then they send them all to work camps where they can be seperated from society and not harmed, but made to pull their weight.Obviously as of yet you dont know the truth as to what is going on.
Then war is declared and you get conscripted to serve the new party and serve your country which in your mind will become great again.
Things suddenly become different and people speaking out against the new party become silenced and disappear so you decide its best,no matter your beliefs to go along with anything they tell you to do.
You get posted at a concentration camp, and youre a guard there. You see all the horrors that go on there, but theres nothing you can do about it, you have no power there so you protect your own life and your family's lives by doing your job and not doing anything risky.
Please explain to me how this man was ever at fault during this whole thing?
Dont say "OH i would have done different,I would have saved those poor nig nogs" because you wouldnt hav,you would have protected yourself and those you cared for and such is human nature,its in our genes and we have evolved this way.
This man was never truly at fault.
>>690082037
>>690082318
>>690082352
>>690082616
>>690078670
All these summerfags itt.
>>690078670
GAS THE KIKES
RACE WAR NOW
>>690083848
Still blaming germans.never looks at the history of amuuuuriicaaa.
>>690082394
You sound like someone with no experience with the military.
>>690084386
tbh op is right
>>690083848
For the most part you are right and from what I understand your average German soldier doesn't face prosecution like this.
This guy was an SS volunteer though so that changes things.
>>690081120
>systematically kill people on an industrial scale
Since when was this case with Jews? They died as an outcome of the war, through disease and starvation, etc
is it summer already? where the fuck are the nazi's at? aryan master race report in. red leader standing by
>>690078670
>>690085039
What German soldier wouldn't want to volunteer for the most distinguished unit he could? Future security
>>690078670
The treatment of Germans during and after the fall of their country has been atrocious. From Nuremberg to this latest verdict it has been nothing but a witch hunt that reeks of injustice and hypocrisy.
>>690083992
>94 year old SS guy confesses his crimes
>the Jews made him do it
lmao you people are fucking dumb
>>690085480
>confesses his crimes
404 Crimes not found
>>690085353
Any soldier who didn't think it was right to be part of the group that, as you said, was responsible for silencing dissent.
>>690085480
>serving in the army
>committing a crime
you can only pick one
>>690086072
So if im in the army and steal supplies from the staff office its not a crime?
Your fucking stupid.
>>690085560
>SS volunteer
he wasn't some Wehrmacht grunt forced into the Nazi machine.
>>690078670
if you worked for Obama/Bush and they´d judge the middle east wars later on will everyone get executed for supporting terrorist ass criminal organization? fucking stupid
>>690083023
Your point about preceded is fair, if perhaps somewhat limited.
Insofar as vengeance is concerned, I couldn't disagree more. The law should not be predicated on revenge. This isn't the Stone Age, anon.
>>690086253
that's not at all what i said... nice strawman idiot boy.
what "crime" was committed besides being on the losing team?
you're a hypocrite and an idiot. nice
>>690086481
I would have done the same. You don't consider how the world might be in a radically different kikocracy when your country is at war.
>>690083023
No, this only gives reason why we need Hitler now more than ever. The victims died 70 years ago, who the fuck cares about that kind of cold case? Jews do. Fuck you and your social "justice"
>>690085074
>>690078670
1st Hitler was right. The only reason he was demonized was because he lost the war.
2nd. In order to try to make up for the lack of reason and logic behind demonizing his legacy, any opportunity to scapegoat someone and "set an example" for others is taken with relish and carried out to the fullest possible extent.
The fact is that the "holocaust" is grossly mischaracterized. They were cleaning up society of what they saw as the parasitic and toxic, cancerous elements. It would be like if China took over America, and retroactively convicted all border patrol agents and prison guards of atrocities for following the law at the time, made illegal retroactively.
>>690082037
>>690082352
>>690082318
Stupid mindless shills.
>>690086701
Or your post was worded very poorly and open to liberal interpretation. It would be better to have said
>Following orders while serving
>being commited of a crime for following them
Your not stupid for having a bad claim your stupid for not wording it properly.
>>690078670
>170,000 counts of accessory to murder
>not one single confirmed kill
>fucking noob
>>690086072
>what are war crimes
>>690087698
It's what you get charged with when you lose a war.
>>690083023
>similar atrocity
So following the law? So, ok, say someone, some stupid teenage grunt thinks that fighting war altogether is atrocious. What are they supposed to do? Have a fucking coup-de-tat? The guy was a nobody. That's retarded.
Might as well blame every American in the country for every individual civilian casualty in every war in American History, or the like.
>>690087698
jewish tricks sounds like to me. you didn't fall for them did you?
>>690085353
The ones who don't want to face trial for war crimes?
>>690082151
nice
you spend your life in prison, forgotten, with someone else doing it
>>690086491
No, but if we find out there's a secret execution squad operating in the ME then yes, the soldiers in that squad will face jail/execution for war crimes.
>>690087983
Yeah, buy, tell that to every Navy Seal, and every special unit in every country that every existed, nigger.
Can you not comprehend that they were not only following the law, but exemplary examples of soldiers for their country?
>>690087983
do you think the colonists made the british pay for "war crimes"?
When someone wins a war, they get to set the rules. If the allies lost, most of us would not be alive lol. It's the unfortunate reality of war. There are no rules in war, there's only rules after a war.
>>690088257
Their descendants do every day.
>>690088257
You're claiming that because sometimes the guilty go free, the crime never counts.
That's a fucking stupid argument.
>>690088266
the Nuremburg trials were something rather unique.. up until then it was not uncommon for a dominant army to ask for some sort of payment after a war (germany owing big afte ww1) but when in history can you name me a time where trials were held and people individually prosecuted for their actions in war?
go ahead.. name me one other time.
>>690088149
u troll good
>>690088408
shut up
>>690088581
do you think that the north made the south pay for "war crimes" after the civil war? what makes ww2 aftermath so special?
your answer can ONLY be
>muh holocaust
>muh jews
>>690088652
You're a good SJW.
>>690088599
Serbian conflict. Next.
>>690084757
>what is unlawful order
>>690082825
>>690088726
Did the South commit war crimes during the civil war?
>>690088599
I don't have to? Lol, it's war bud. Like I said, there's no rules during a war only after. And the winner sets those terms. This particular side won and their ideals are what shape our world. If enough of them feel the need to prosecute every single individual involved with the enemy, they have every ability to do it. Who's gonna stop them? People think there's a rule book to follow fuck that lol. A nuke can be dropped in an instant and whoever dropped it won't suffer any consequences if they beat all of their enemies in a military campaign.
>>690087791
Like it's already been pointed out, he wasn't some stupid teenage grunt.
He was an SS volunteer.
There is a big difference.
>>690079535
It's like finding out abortion actually is murder in like ten years.
>>690088865
Of course they did, that's how SJWs have been able to make out the civil war to be entirely about slavery.
>>690088883
>I think Realpolitik is edgy: the post
>>690088995
Time to take your meds buddy
>>690089000
>>690088785
Oh yeah true. See? Rules are set after the fact. Winner gets to do what they want.
No rules in life bud, only the ones we choose to adhere to. If you can beat someone to the ground or kill someone that's trying to do something you don't like, you win and get to do the thing. EOS.
>>690088865
define war crime lol
>>690088883
"and the winner gets those terms" so JEWS won ww2? because they got a sweet chunk of land and an eternal get-out-of-jail-free card so you tell me who the Nuremberg trials were really for.
>>690089122
I've already taken it but thank you for the daily brainwashing reminder.
>>690089208
Yeah pretty much.
>>690085074
Fuck the niggers AND the jews. Hot chick reporting in.
>>690089000
Nice trips.
Also I'm not a polisci major and haven't really studied philosophy. What's Realpolitik?
>>690089206
So proving you wrong somehow makes your point stronger?
Nope.tiff
>>690089322
Hot Latino. GTFO you impure muggle
>>690089421
It's the theory that all war and international relations should be built on mutual respect, personal relationships and with a focus on moral righteousness.
>>690088652
It's not trolling, nigger. It's called basic logic.
>>690082849
this
>>690089721
No, it's really not.
>>690089734
You had to volunteer for the SS you imbecile.
>>690089713
That's the dumbest idea I've ever seen.
>>690089713
Well, that's ridiculously absurd. Sounds like something the politicians want the people to believe so they don't get replaced.
>all war
>built on mutual respect, personal relationships, and with a focus on moral righteousness
Yeah, nah, you would have to be a goddamned idiot to believe that was even possible for a second, and if you believe that shit, I challenge you to posit any reasonable example where that's not a laughable absurdity.
>>690089794
If it wasn't you could come up with something better than that, loser.
>>690089713
Oh gotcha. Thanks. Makes sense and I agree to some respect. I just feel that when it comes down to it, there's no rules period. Like if we are to have mutual respect and a moral code be our "Lock and Key" on our judicial system, what's to stop one of our buddies from feeling antsy and pulling the trigger on the back of our head? Granted that's not an extremely likely scenario but it's possible and nothing can really stop that from happening other than foresight.
>>690089924
>>690090075
Many famous politicians have supported the idea. Anyway, you can argue against realpolitik all you want at school or whatever.
>>690088811
>Yeah Hitler would have totally respected that he was giving unlawful orders and he'd probably even apologize if he knew it like duh
>>690090162
My argument is logical and scientific because I said so, I am now going to call myself the winner of this argument.
>>690090244
You're the guy who threw it out there. It's stupid, don't you think so? It's a fairy tale.
>>690079535
The US didn't draft anyone for Iraq
>>690090353
>My argument is logical and scientific because I said so
Nah, you're a fucking idiot, but thanks for proving my point. If you ever want to get back to the subject, let me know so I can school your dumb ass some more.
>>690089924
>>690090075
It's a focus on pragmatism and context of circumstance rather than absolute moral ideologies.
Come on now cletus. You should at least see the value in that on some level
>>690087757
this x 1000. If the allies had lost, we would have been war criminals for what we did to the japanese. Those in america, and those in hiroshima and nagasaki.
But we won, so it was just desperate times that made us do it. couldn't be helped, couldn't be helped.
Only point I was trying to make is that whining, yelling and screaming about this shit is about just as bad as what the kids on every other social media platform do for every major global issue.
The war was won, the allies have set the terms for the consequences of the enemy's actions. 5 years is a lot nicer than what he would've gotten 60 years ago TBH. I'd say in the long run, the dude won pretty much.
Overall point being, this is the world we live in because of the result of the great wars. We can't change that and whining about it on here just makes you look like a pansy ass motherfucker.
You don't like this world? Change it. Enough people seem to have had that idea lately anyway.
>>690090484
Note that you can't see the sarcasm in that comment,>>690089721oh the irony
The Jewish propaganda machine is the largest and best funded disinformation engine in the world. Hitler would be proud of their efficiency.
>>690088887
just like your digits, your post is fail you fucking retard. who gives a fuck if he was a volunteer or not. He was doing WHAT WAS LEGAL IN HIS COUNTRY AND WHAT HE BELIEVED TO BE RIGHT.
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>>690090244
>>690090517
>takes one college course
>suddenly understands the world
>mfw
>>690090639
>You don't like this world? Change it.
We need a good plague or war to kill of about 2/3rds of the world population. I don't care if I die in the process, it's for humanities sake.
>>690091148
Kek? I'm the second poster. I didn't say it wasn't unrealistic and a good machine for justification. But to write it off as without any merit is just silly
>>690091196
Nah We just need a plague to wipe out 1% of the population
>>690091518
>1%
I see what you did there.
>>690090309
Dubs of the truth!
>>690089208
Jews won both world wars. Now we're seeing their end game. Degeneracy and racemixing and demographic genocide everywhere.
>>690088785
>Serbian conflict.
you mean the indictment that happened decades after ww2? lol
I dont understand.
Didn't they acquit millions (literally) of former Nazi armed forces because it was proved that humans are pretty fucking stupid when it comes to following orders and will go to great lengths to follow orders?
>2/3rds of people will kill someone if they are told to and that it is necessary.
But I dont see the point of getting angry OP, because if you dont fully understand the situation, then you dont know all the facts.
Be aware of your ignorance and learn as much as you can without making assumptions.
>>690091710
what dubs you fucking dumbass
>>690091737
I hope your joking
>>690091433
If you interpret the definition to mean "don't kill innocent civilians," then yeah it has some merit. But pretending that war is not war is just silly.
>>690081120
Have you never heard of the term voluntold. It's when you are told to volunteer or told that you volunteered.
>>690091925
unfortunately he isn't.
this is the reality the allies chose and they chose wrong.
or they really didn't even have much of a choice.
the reach of the jew is staggering compared to his stature
>>690091196
>>690091518
Aaaaand I found the next 2 that gonna be on the news.
>>690091925
What about "his joking"? Finish the damn sentence
>>690090676
So in other words, you don't like that I'm right, I get it. Stay mad for all I care.
>>690092222
>>690091737
I'm sorry but the longer I stay in this thread the more I feel like I'm talking to Neo-Nazis rather than human beings.
>>690092708
If your feelings are getting hurt and what's being discussed in this thread does not align with your personal beliefs. Then yes anon, you should leave this thread and go back to your hugbox/safespace.
>>690092708
but you are saying that like that somehow disqualifies an argument entirely? do you even know what a Nazi is? if you want to call me a nazi because i believe in national socialism... then that would be fair.
but i am not a german soldier in the 1940s so i am not sure exactly what you are picturing? probably some backwater redneck named cleetus? i wonder who sold you that narrative
>>690092708
If you don't have sense or logic on your side, and you're just here to vomit up some stale postwar propaganda, then you're in the wrong place kid. Go validate your internalized brainwashing with your jew schoolteacher or whatever if the truth makes you so uncomfortable.
>>690092930
>>690092961
>>690093108
The scariest part is you just keep proving the point. I'm sorry you lost the war guys. Truly. Just be better next time.
>>690092961
Please enlighten me on >what a Nazi is
>>690093628
I hope you're trolling, because if you're not, you are a sad, sad example of the effects of your mindless ideology on what should be a thoughtful and independent human being.
>>690093628
Your entire position is nothing but a gross appeal to authority. I guess you can't appreciate the irony in that.
>>690093628
how did i lose the war?
i never fought in a war.. and history says that the allies (americans et al.) won the war... so technically i won that too?
>>690093727
a nazi is a popular term for someone of the national socialist party of germany. a nazi soldier fought in the german army in the 1940s.
it's really that simple....
neo-nazi? what even is that. i am not german and i am not a soldier.. so what does this even mean?
>>690093727
>>690093628
>>690092708
I hope you wake up, m8. There's hope for you, yet. I hate to break it to you, man, but the people you are talking to are obviously smarter and more informed than, so you may want to reconsider your baseless rhetoric and internalized Jewish propaganda.
Or you know, sit there and think you are right because you're calling people names you don't even really understand, and think that blind ideological rhetoric is OK as long as what you perceive to be popular opinion supports it.
>>690094267
Neo-Nazism borrows elements from Nazi doctrine, including ultranationalism, racism, ableism, xenophobia, homophobia, antiziganism, antisemitism, and initiating the Fourth Reich. Holocaust denial is a common feature, as is incorporation of Nazi symbols and admiration of Adolf Hitler.
Not even gonna bother putting quotes around that. Does that describe well enough?
>>690094137
>>690094020
Holy shit. The fact that there's several of you is what's scary. Can only hope you're just obscure trolls that get a kick out of this. But in case you aren't, just know the current regime let you live. They let you do this now because they value the ability to let someone speak their mind no matter how bat-shit crazy they may be. If it were the Axis' land, just know free speech wouldn't even be a consideration.
You're welcome for letting you live.
>>690078670
>Add some more fuel to the propaganda that is the Holocaust. The Holocaust... keeping the Jews and Israel blameless for 70 years.
lolwut
>>690095521
>ultranationalism: check
>racism: nope
>ableism: nope
>xenophobia: buzzword
>homophoia: nope
>antiziganism: nope
>antisemitism: I have no problem with "semitic peoples" (which includes arabs by the way).... i have a problem with Jews.
so no I don't think neo-nazi describes me well enough, buddy. nice try though
>>690095249
>>690094267
>>690094137
>>690094020
P.S. You're all on the Jewish-Boogeyman's watchlist now. Watch out and be a good sheep and maybe he'll continue to let you live.
P.P.S. We Happy Few was announced for Xbox Early Access so I'm sure that's something you all will take an interest in.
>>690095918
pps you are a dumb nigger faggot who shouldn't be browsing this site because you are underaged
>>690095900
>racism: nope
>i have a problem with Jews.
Oh. Wow. Sorry, forgot that's excluded in racism. Don't forget to take your Joy!
>>690078670
He hid. Why didn't he admit what he did and explain he had no choice. Hiding just made him look like he had no regrets and just didn't want to be caught.
>>690096211
jews are a race?.... i thought jews are a religion? if i convert to judaism do i also convert my race?
rachel dolezal is that you??
>>690096211
judaism is a religion =/= race
>>690096414
>Jews = followers of Judaism
>Jews = Hebrew ethnicity
>followers of Judaism =/= Hebrew ethnicity
>Jews =/= Jews
>>690096665
hahhahahahahhahha good luck with that Rachel
the jew has really done a number on you
>>690096414
Not according to the nazis, in nazi schools kids were taught how to identify Jews by the shape of their nose aswell as other features
>>690083848
>se explain to me how this man was ever at fault during this whole thing?
After the fact he hid like a coward. That's why.
>>690082037
One question:
You know from the muslim invasion and that there will be war right? And do you something about it?
>holy shit that makes no fucking sense
Fuck in 2blazed
Whatever fuck you dude
>>690096880
>>690096414
>>690096380
I fucking give up lol enjoy the Jewish reign of terror I guess or whatever the fuck you guys think we sheeple are following.
>>690097259
That's two questions
>>690082616
Weve all been through the jew blaming phase on our way to the truth huh?
>>690097526
>whatever the fuck you guys think we sheeple are following
well it seems right now like you are being JIDF and you aren't even being payed or nothing. so you are a top level goy
>>690097680
nope the jews are still very much to blame the way i see it. i never expected by own church would get thrown under the bus in the end but it is what it is.
Rome never fell. nice to meet you, fellow peasant.
>>690097259
>You know from the muslim invasion and that there will be war right?
What the fuck is your illiterate ass even asking?
JIDF plz go
>>690083023
>The value is to set a precedent so that in the future if a similar atrocity is happening perhaps some of the people involved will stop it.
So ironic that he will be locked and guarded by employees of EU Nazis that imprison people for speaking the censored truth or having the wrong opinion. Just doing their jobs, right?
>>690083023
So, how about if I think this conviction is an atrocity. What then? How does your infallible logic handle that? Overthrow the European Union? Ally with their enemies and hope the right side wins?
Dude, come on, think.
>>690078670
>did and any policy he enacted was legal.
same reason I am pissed off at that black chick being put on the $20.00. She broke the law. What kind of shortsighted idiots support/idolise that? In both cases, the government is saying "Do you think a law is unjust? Then you should take the law into your own hands."
>>690078670
>They didn't blame him for falling vicitim of the Nazi Propaganda
>They blamed him on making the choice to go to Auschwitz as a warden even though he knew what was going on and eventually willing to assist Mass murder
>Get your facts straight faggot
Do any of you dipshit "the world is run by Jews" conspiracy theorists feel the same way about gang members as you do Reinhold Hanning? In many cases you join a gang because you have to and you seen no way out. If you leave your family is threatened or you you're just killed. I'm willing to bet none of you feels the same way about gang members and I wonder why that is. I wonder if it's just because you're just racist morons? I bet that's what it is.
>>690096211
Fuck the jews. The way they slaughter animals for food, all in the name of some bs religion, makes them nothing but faggots.
>>690098778
He was just serving his country, though. You might as well blame every soldier that ever lived for every civillian casualty.
And the special units? Navy Seals? Delta Force? Green Berets? Spetznaz? Do you think they sit around having tea all day? They are killers, and it's an honor to be in those units, and every other soldier wishes they could be so prestigious.
I'm sorry dude, but what you're advocating is lawlessness in retrospect, just because you were born on the winning side. What's sad is that you can't see it.
>>690098930
Comparing a gang of brigands, and essentially highwaymen, to a soldier in the national military, serving his country?
Get some nuance, dude. How's that jewish dick feel deep in your mind?
>>690078670
Ah yes, our society now is much more progressive and humane, that's why in the 60's we prosecuted nazi scientists for creating weapons the nazis would use to try and conquer the globe!
Oh wait, what's that? We gave them immunity in return for them helping to create nuclear missiles, oh so much for that. So was this whole trail just for spectacle so we feel less bad about ourselves for letting mass murderes like DR DEATH live long wealthy lives? Yes, yes it is, and we as a species should be ashamed
>>690099262
>I am german, thus I wasn't born on "the winning side"
>As a German that is part of my Legacy. I don't say I took part in it personally, I do say however that especially germans like me should never forget.
>Comparing Mass murder (in that case 170,000 people) to "war casualities" seems a bit off and exaggerated, doesn't it?
>>690099127
Because only Jews slaughter animals. Ever heard of factory farming? They do that with pork ya know
>>690098930
Should soldiers in the US army be charged with murder for all their drone strikes that kill innocent people, they know they're killing dozens of other people and not just the suspected enemy they are targeting. If they don't follow orders they will be jailed but it is unlikely their family will be threatened. What do you guys think?
>>690100666
Military personnel actually have an obligation to disobey unlawful commands, so sure.
>>690100666
I think that your the devil, but trips never lie
>>690100548
It wasn't mass murder. They were forced labor camps for spies, the mentally ill, homosexuals, jews, and prisoners of war. Criminals and mentally ill. They were the enemies within. Cancers being excised. What's exaggerated is the emotional reaction to what should be a cold and impartial proceeding, that should have fairly noted that the leaders of Nazi Germany are all dead now and he was simply a soldier following the lawful orders of his high command.
>>690084747
You didn't even read the post retard
>>690101027
It's almost as thou authority should be questioned
>>690101296
Hindsight is 20/20 you fucking cunt
>>690101469
Hi there! I'm an anarchist
>>690101027
Wow I am speechless. Who are you to judge about "worthy and worthless" life? Speaking on an Anonymous Board you must feel great don't you?
>Edgy faggot
>Sage in all fields
>>690100598
>impying I only hate the jews
Are you illiterate or something? That and I don't care if animals are killed, only if they are killed/housed in a dickish way. Same reason I hate most Asians.
>>690101296
>authority should be questioned
Which is why I'm questioning why a frail old man who was lucky enough to not die while serving his country is being scapegoated for political reasons.
>>690101745
>Hi there! I'm a child
Fix'd
I dont understand why he should go to jail, he was defending Germany from the zionist occupation and he was punishing the jews for making Germany lose ww1.
>>690101296
Pretty much what they are saying. In Germany if you think something is immoral, its fine to break the law to fight it. Not only is it the right thing to do, but it's what's expected of you.
>>690101845
Can you get some fucking perspective, dude? They were prisoners. You know? Like in prisons today all over the world? they still have forced labor in places
So, by your logic a prison guard should be held liable for the unjust incarceration of the inmates? How does that make ANY fucking sense, m8?? can you answer that?
>>690101978
And I replied to you by saying that people from every race, gender or religion all have the equal capacity to be horrible people, sorry if you thought I meant something else.
>>690078670
> sympathizing with Nazis
Once upon a time, the Nazi was the enemy of America. All of you are traitors.
>>690101845
That other anon was right. And in case you think I am hiding behind anonymity I live in Lehigh Acres, Fl. My name is Sean Fisch. People who are only willing to say what's right and just when they are protected by anonymity are the same as the cowardly faggots who use buzzwords and logical fallacies in an argument.
>>690102371
>I got a fucking perspective
>They were brought there in the first place to get killed off not to do forced labour. That might have been the shallow justification
>Prisoners for what btw? Being Jewish? What crime did they commit?
>>690102359
Oh you were an anti-Nazi german in the 30's and 40's? Oh you weren't and you have no way of knowing how it was like for the average german citizen at the time? Oh what's that? You're talking out of your ass? Oh don't worry anon I know you are.
>>690102359
The law is not at all a moral compass. Although the law can be against immoral things like murder it can also protect immoral things like torchure or slavery.
The law isn't written by some unquestionable all knowing entity, but by people, people who will protect their own interests
>>690102903
Please ellaborate then. What fallacies are you talking about?
>>690102532
Oh, I see. Yeah I knew that, but most don't do it as a collective whole. But groups like the jews overwhelmingly believe its ok to slit an animal's throat and let it suffer and die. There aren't many groups that is true for. Again, I do hate each equally though.
>>690087332
>retroactively convicted
>made illegal retroactively
>>690103382
Ad hominem for one. Your main counterpoint was that is was just acting big because he was anonymous.
>>690103614
My main counter point was that I questions his value of life, not that he was anonymous
>>690103187
What does being anti-nazi have to do with anything? We are talking about a government punishing a person who followed a law they no longer like. It may have been right and legal at the time, but that's no excuse ti do things some people in the future may deem immoral.
>>690103353
No shit. I never debated that.
>>690103187
Nobody that voted for the nazis are to blame, nobody had ever seen the consequences of fascism, and after being through several economic crisis (the Great Depression being one of them) consequently leading to a lack of education, I'd also blame the foreign people that look different to everyone else.
>>690103870
I...didn't even catch that was a counterpoint. You said he was unfit to judge, but didn't elaborate. So while I do admit it is a valid counterpoint, it is very weak. Then again a topic like that would take ages to discuss.
>convicting a 94 year old
Holy shit man. Why even bother? Nigga probably cant even fucking stand for 5 minutes.
You mean alleged Holocaust. It's 95% grossly exaggerated or plain old bullshit so the Jews can ruin the world for their own gain
>>690081120
its human nature man. ever hear of the stanford prison trial? none of those people were criminals. In fact, not all the guards were bad either. No one is immune from being like that
>>690104269
Yes. It might be weak to you but to me it means a lot. Implying that jews, mentally ill, homosexuals and who not are not worthy of living is a big no go for me. By saying that he justifies the Holocaust in the first place, not the just the actions of a single warden
>>690078670
Next they will try my grandfather who was 10 in 1944 because he was a nazi youth and that makes him an accessory.
>>690103870
You are missing the point entirely. The guy convicted for accessory to 170,000 murders or whatever ridiculous thing they came up with had no say as to who was or was not a prisoner. He was just a soldier, fool. A distinguished and honored solider in his day, but just a soldier following orders nonetheless.
>>690103408
I'd believe that it's more the authoritarian nature of religions that is to blame rather than the followers themselves.
In mosques and synagogues the only people who have a voice are those who have been their for years and have dedicated their lives to the words on scrolls written thousands of years ago, those words become unquestionable to the followers and hence change in religous text is rare.
In the Quran it's says to slit animals throats as it is 'quick and humane' I'd say that this is because a thousand years ago stun guns and cheap anaesthetic wasn't around.
>>690103984
Sorry I thought you were, it sounded like a question
>>690105219
I didn't Miss the point. In fact the discussion was Split into two subjects:
First of all OP questioned the judgement on that old warden. Think of it as you may, but in my opinion the judgement was rightfully true since, dictatorship or not, he was not forced to work at a concentration Camp. It was his own choice and therefore he should be seemed guilty. He wasn't forced into this.
Then the discussion Split into another subject, about who and why people were killed of by the germans during the Holocaust in the first place. And I just can't see the connection between normal prisoners and victims of mass murder
>>690104379
I think not being able to control when you piss and shit is a punishment in itself!
>>690106138
> I just can't see the connection between normal prisoners and victims of mass murder
I guess because your Jew Goggles blind you, son. There was no mass murder. They were forced labor camps for war prisoners, and the conditions were shit because of that and only got worse as the war turned against the favor of Germany.
>>690106738
>Aha I am not normally into conspiracy stuff.
>Enlighten me then anon.
>I prefer valuable sources btw
>>690082616
do you read about reptilians as well?
>>690078670
I am King of the Jews.
>>690106738
>There was no mass murder. They were forced labor camps for war prisoners, and the conditions were shit because of that and only got worse as the war turned against the favor of Germany.
>>690106985
You're misusing greentext. It's for quoting and paraphrasing. This is how it's supposed to be used:
>>690106985
>I accept wholeheartedly out of emotional weakness whatever emotionally manipulative dogma my authority figures feed me
>I require no further proof except for my Jewish overlords words from the media mouthpieces
>I however place a burden of proof on those that question my blind dogma
Stay pleb
>>690084747
Europeans actually believe this.
>>690105219
If he didn't he would be dead. Basic self preservation says "these people are going to die so I won't". I'm not saying it's cool, but the 94 year old dude is almost dead anyway let the man live.
>>690107497
Well then fucking prove it? If you don't believe in so called "Jewish Overlord authority" then just bring me valuable evidence instead of some made up fucking Bullshit. Shoudlnt be too hard should it?
>>690104964
And anyone living who on record payed taxes to the Germans or had their bank accounts seized by them will be charged with funding the Holocaust
>>690078670
Agreed
>>690107970
Just like how I am going to be summoned to the Iraq inquiry for paying taxes that went towards the atrocities of the Iraq war(the 2003 one)
>>690107725
Exactly.
>>690104817
They are not worth of breeding, as that would go against the whole point of breeding, but whether or not they deserve to live is up for debate. I'd argue that they have no right to live nor die based on that alone.
>>690105513
I understand why it happens, I just can't condone it or those who follow it.
>>690107497
Not only paraphrasing and quoting define basic principles of a discussion, it's these basic "burdens of proof" which should undermine anyones argumentation
>>690105856
All's good.
Hey, does anyone else find it a coincidence that for every £1000 Germany had to pay in war reparations for WW1 hitler killed one Jew?
(£6.6 billion pounds had to be paid, 6.6 Jews killed)
>>690107815
>then just bring me valuable evidence instead of some made up fucking Bullshit.
You wouldn't even believe it if I gave you a personal presentation, because you're so blinded by your hatred and bigotry. Look it up yourself, faggot.
>>690108747
Why are they not "worth of breeding". Who says except you and some other anons on here?
>>690107497
Its also used to highlight poor implications, or make an implication yourself
>thinking you can greentext correctly.
>>690109095
>Blinded by hatred
>Defying Mass murder
Yeah...
You are making it very easy for yourself pal..
>>690107815
wir mussen die juden aus rotten
>>690109053
* 6.6 million Jews killed
He did nothing wrong.
>>690109095
"Biggotry and hatred" towards who btw?
>>690109157
Simple logic really. If you are shown to be deficient in some major way compared to your peers, then there is a chance that it is genetic. Its not a 100% guarantee but because we do not have a population issue the risk is not worth the reward. This is of course assuming you gaf about humanity as a whole. If you favor the individual over the whole then they deserve to breed. But I'd argue that your value of the individual over the whole is wrong for a few reasons.
>>690109660
Toward Nazis, because they are the new boogeymen for a generation of deluded young men trying to fit in, apparently..
>>690109396
The allegations of mass murder, are fabricated, from what the evidence dictates, as I stated before. They were just the justification for stealing Palestinian land after WWII
see
>>690109453
Germany is literally sand nigger domain but they gotta get that one single nazi war criminal who's probably been in hiding the last 70 years of his life.
Meanwhile terrorists are allowed to apply for asylum in Europe...
>>690104716
that doesn't make it less of a crime
>>690109900
>>690107815
It is weird that those who deny the Holocaust are actually the same who have the least antipathy towards it.
>>690110602
lol what is this alex jones tinfoil hat nutbar banana-smearing bullshit?
>>690078670
Geneva convention was a thing then.
Americans were right pissed off because the US government followed it to the letter for german POWs. Tax dollars and "why not social programs instead" and all that.
More outrage followed when it was found how germans treated american pows and revenge was called for to which the us government responded "we're not them"
Other than that I totally agree. It was fucking war. I dont agree with the actions, but now this dude gets to live his final sickly years knowing the world has seen and judged that he is a criminal when there was likely nothing he could do in the first place.
I hope he has so much dementia he is unable to grasp this has happened to him. How undignified.
>>690110602
This is not the number of total deaths, but, as it says (assuming it is not fake or something other than what it's suggested to be), it gives the number of certificated deaths (in some archive collected by someone).
>>690110058
The actions of a government does not reflect e those it rules over, what Israel is doing to Palestine is pure evil and can be called a holocaust itself, it does not at all represent an entire religion/race/ethnic background/whatever.
Britain promised the holy lands to both the Palestinians and Israelites. The US gave a shit load in foreign aid to Israel not because of some Jew conspiracy, but because America needed an ally in the Middle East during the Cold War to fight off the communist expansion in the region.
Look at all these fucking summerfags defending the jews. This isn't 4chan, this is fucking reddit now.
Hitler was a goddamned hero and had the balls to convince a country to address what he saw as a problem and like it or not those kraut scientists set us leaps and bounds ahead of what we were in terms of technology. As long as we forget that, and keep scapegoating people we will perpetuate that the jews are victims which they are not. Hitler saw them for what they truly are. They should all be wiped off the face of the earth but year in and year out we see Nazis mentioned in all media as the worst enemy ever, while movies about the holocaust and WWII consistently win academy awards, who runs the academy? The jews.
Open your eyes you cucks. Quit letting the fucking kikes circle jerk over all of history.
>>690110602
I can easily make a document like this with the faded ink effect and everything.
Should I feel bad for trolling the dog out of both sides of the "debate"?
>>690109791
Deluded is a pretty big term dont you think? And not very objective either
It's funny how you argue about me being bigoted towards Nazis, since they are full of prejudices against a whole lot of ethnicities and minorites as well.
>>690111949
The next regime in power will be demonizing the last one just as fiercely. And their generation of indoctrinated young men and women will be blindly supporting their new ideology with a similar blind zeal and authoritarianism.
That's why this is ridiculous, and that's why this frail old man should not have been convicted of murdering hundreds of thousands of people. It's absurd.
>>690110602
The nazis didn't have the time or resources to count how many people they were killing. They just gathered them up, put them on a train, took them to a camp, shoved as many as the could into a room with no windows and proceed to fill the room with poisonous gasses.
When killing this many people so easily, who's got time for paperwork?
>>690112453
> who's got time for paperwork?
It's ironic you say that because the Nazis were actually meticulous at record keeping, and there were no six million fucking jews.
>>690112453
This post is misinformed. Gassing didn't happen until later. There were many steps beforehand. There were shooting executions, gas vans, fire chambers, there were many things attempted before what we think of as the executions. All attempts were documented and meticulous. Nazi's took notes, kept records. The six million number is completely fabricated.
>>690111001
>>690111469
>>690111719
>>690112453
Not the dude you were replying to, but if you have time to read, here's a longer bit about Red Cross' observations from the consentration camps.
>>690112596
>Nazis were actually meticulous at record keeping
Oh were they? I guess I'll just take your word for it
>>690112293
>Demonizing
>nazis
Nice b8 m8
When you kill 6 million people cus you dont like them you demonize yourself you troll.
B8 sage
>>690113267
>believing it was actually 6 million jews
You're the troll m8
>>690113267
>When you kill 6 million people
You certainly like to throw around that made up number at every conceivable opportunity, don't you?
Would you like to attempt the impossible task of proving anywhere close to that number of Jews existed there at all, let alone were imprisoned there, or died there?
>>690112989
...Fuck, forgot to upload image. Go me.
>>690089713
wouldn't those components, if present, rule out war. how do you have a war with someone you respect, and who respects you. war isn't a bar room brawl.
>>690112939
So what? They used different of killing people it deosnt take away from my point. The point I was making is that the rate at which people were being killed was so high that it was more effective to not to file them, I just used the example of gas chambers as it is the most well known method used in the holocaust. Besides why would the nazis keep a perfect record of the war crimes the committed? It goes without saying that if you commit a crime the last thing you should do is document it.
>>690114001
I'm not him, but that's exactly why that idea is utterly fiction. In reality, even cold war economic manipulation is still war and has profound effects on real lives.
As much as we like to imagine ourselves a scholarly and academic species, we still must rely on sheer military power to maintain that facade.
>>690107324
>typhus
>>690114158
By "records" we don't mean they kept check boxes of how many died. However they did keep records of individuals transported onto trains, coming into camps, supplies ordered, etc. The numbers do not add up.
Your comment assumes that the nazis were aware they were committing war crimes. This is false. To many high ranking nazis no crimes were being committed. Records were destroyed and hidden toward the very END of the war and after when the witch hunt began. However, during the war, records were kept accurately as the nazi war machine was one that was efficient and well-oiled.
>>690082151
Or you fucking die because the government lables you a traitor you fucking nigger
>>690114158
>Besides why would the nazis keep a perfect record of the war crimes the committed?
You don't get it, man, they weren't committing crimes, they were following orders. And they were indeed excellent record keepers.
It's like asking of the Navy Seal team that assasinated Osama Bin Laden, why they would document their crime? Because it wasn't a crime, they were following orders from their Commander in Chief, and videotaped the whole thing for their commander.
>>690082849
A thousand times this
>>690113852
>made up
Pol please get out of denial. You have already lost this argument. Refusing basic truths to fit your argument. How scumlike.
B8 sage
>>690114744
So because most people believe it, then it's wrong?
This can literally justify every single conspiracy theory ever.
>>690083023
>gets drafted
>follows orders
>dosent die
>gets concvited of war crimes 60 years later
>gets drafted
>dosent follow orders
>dies on spot
>gets drafted
>dodges draft
>deemed a draft dodger and destroyed by government
youre fucking stupid
>>690115308
It's not a basic truth, it's literally a mindless exaggeration that somehow people actually believed after hearing it enough times.
The number is, quite frankly, impossible, and I challenge anyone to try to justify it or a number anywhere CLOSE.
>>690081120
It was a high honor to be in the SS. They first started out as a progress towards being in civil workforce. They were seen as national guard of US, but with marine core treatment from the people. Usually they had college level education with physical challenge of a amature Olympic athlete. Shit, even l would be in SS to make more money after service
>>690083023
So it's all about feelings lol?
>>690115308
Nice to see you're using your brain and doing a bit of free-thinking instead of just regurgitating what you learned in high school over and over again out of a McGraw-Hill textbook.
he dindu nuffin. you faggots are the sjw blm fuckheads of the other side of the spectrum.
>>690114990
Your comparing killing one guy (btw he was the most wanted man on earth, so why wouldn't you document it) to killing 6.6 million on a mass production scale
>>690116328
>6.6 million
weew lad
>>690116328
You know what? You're right, that's a bad example because those records are secret. You and nobody but the insiders at the white house will get to see that video.
The records are more like the normal incarceration records at prisons and bus terminals everywhere. You don't understand because you don't want to, and there never were 6.6 million Jews incarcerated, let alone murdered.
They were cleaning up Germany. Making it Great Again
>>690116328
>6.6 million
>6.6
>MILLION
Just stop.
>>690116572
Wtf?
>>690115819
Your picture, I'd plaster [citation needed] over all of this BS.
>>690117123
Ill cite the sourse 4chan.org /b/
And the other info l typed myself. Not pirated, l can tell you that matey
I totally am on board with the holohoax concept. It is one of the conspiracies where the puzzle pieces fit because the jews had a contrived motive to execute and if it is in fact true, it fucking WORKED.
However, someone please help me because as a skeptic, the whole idea becomes difficult to swallow when I am confronted with many many photos, thousands of life stories, and those alike.
Can someone refer me to something that could aid my gut feeling that is was all fabricated propaganda? And so help me god if one of you fucks give me a youtube video I'll an hero.
>>690116889
I have to repeat myself>>690114158
My point is still valid
"German prosecutors were required, until recently, to provide evidence that defendants were directly involved in the killings.
That changed with the 2011 conviction of John Demjanjuk, when a judge concluded that his activities as a camp worker in Nazi-occupied Poland amounted to complicity in mass murder.
Last year a German court sentenced Oskar Groening, 94, to four years in jail as an accessory to the murder of at least 300,000 people at Auschwitz.
Known as the SS "book-keeper of Auschwitz", Groening was allegedly responsible for counting banknotes confiscated from prisoners"
Oskar Groenig got four years for 300,000 counts of accessory to murder, but this guy got five years for 170,000 counts of accessory to murder. No consistency but they both got off easy.
Does Germany allow time off for good behavior? He might actually live to see freedom again. Maybe.
He was convicted because he is responsible for his own actions.
>>690119165
You KNOW he was going down because he was literally doing the only thing that Jew's are good at and in addition doing it to the Jews themselves.
>>690119242
If the judge and prosecutor were responsible for their actions in convicting him, then where is their jailtime for putting a law abiding old man in prison?
IBM sold Nazi the punch card system for the concentration camps, why haven't they been prosecuted?
>>690095521
>they value the ability to let someone speak their mind no matter how bat-shit crazy they may be.
This is exactly what's wrong with today's society. Who thought it was a good idea to let people think that everyone's voice equal? No matter that we are getting plagued with new, half-assed social groups and activists. Why in the world would you want to listen to everybody in your country before taking a decision? It's impossible to say something nowadays that doesn't offend somebody. So keep believing you "freed" us with free speech, but don't come crying when the leftist censor begins
>>690083023
>vengence / closure for the victims
kek
If you're seriously holding on to vengence and closure at this point you have fucking wasted your life.
>>690078670
Jews did 9/11
