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One is a religious extremist who wants to invade other countries performing terrorist attacks on those who don't agree with her ideology... the other is a female supporter of ISIS

discuss.
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>>689636099
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>>689636099
They're both terrible people
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>>689636099
So then what's the difference?
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Simple one is not going around for fuck of it killing in the name of a God, America kills for land not who you worship.
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>>689636459
But most American troops pray to God for support

And don't you think ISIS leaders are after the same goals, herding their sheep and encouraging them with religious dogma? There is no difference.
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One is American the other is European.
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>>689636749
what religious dogma are you talking about here?
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>>689636923
Islam
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>>689636749
For support you fucking retard they are not killing for him
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the difference is, the american girl doesn't go out and use her assault rifle like a madman for her religion, the isis cunt does - that's what they do. I'm not saying the american girl couldn't go out and start killing "infidels" like isis, i'm just saying it's not at all common nor expected. You look at an isis warrior, and that IS expected - they caused this themselves.
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>>689636459
Tell that to those people at that Planned Parenthood clinic
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one doesnt have a circumcised clit
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>>689637053
And the American?
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>>689637091
You can't be THAT stupid can you?
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>>689636749
They pray to not fight and live not for all other religions to be eleminated but there's and kill all that don't follow the Quran
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>>689636099

This mentality is why the West will crumple. We allow Russia, ISIS, China, Iran, etc to trample all over us and we will sit paralyzed, incapable of action, because our well intention but misguided neoliberal sentiments don't allow us to ever fight back against literally anything, leaving ALL the heavy lifting to the Americans. The US can't do literally everything without help, but apparently all Europe is good for is complaining like children about the only country that doesn't take shit lying down, unlike our entire continent. Sincerely, a concerned European.
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http://millerreport.us/pastor-roger-jimenez-docs/ bump this
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>>689637203
ಠ_ಠ

Christianity
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>>689637091
I bet it goes like this "Please Jesus help us kill our enemies." support is still asking for help to kill people
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>>689637121
yet she allows her country to kill afghans, Iraqis, etc
How is that better ? "muh americano-centrism"

Both shitty, and fuck you subjective person who can't criticize his own country, go read intellectuals
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>>689636099

one is defender one is attacker
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>>689636099
one is about protection, the other is about war
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I think the chick on the right is dead.

Hilariously enough, the christ bitch on the left cheating on her husband, then conveniently forgot the part of the bible that mentions killing adulterers.
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>>689637358
/thread
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>>689637323
No, Christians just rejoice when people who they consider "sinners" and "sodomites" die.

Infidels anyone?
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>>689636099
The one on the left knows what an innocent civlian victim is, and tries not to harm them. The one on the right knows deep in their that anyone not muslim is not innocent.

TL:DR - They have different ideas about what constitutes innocence.

This really is a stupid question.
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>>689636099
One loves their country, and the other flies planes into buildings.
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>>689637744
Now your just being naive.
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>>689636099
Both have atrocious trigger discipline, but I bet only one has a shaved cooch...
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>>689636099
The American one is a good slut
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>>689637464
fuck you faggot, i'm European, Swedish to be specific, and look what is happening to our country due to a lack of girls like the one on the left. If more people had this patriotic mentality then we wouldnt be in such fucking shit. People here are so determined to show their neighbor that they are even more liberal than the next person, and now the country is suffering for it.
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don't be stupid, one of them is following a recently posted kill list with 8000 names on it, the other is an attention hunting teen with no ideology.
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>>689637812
Hurr durr I'm smart. One flies planes...get it?? Durrrrr
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>>689636099
The one on the right doesn't use toilet paper
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>>689636459
Yeah they kill for land but they say they deserve that land because god says so, isis are exactly the same. Personally id say that the whole thing about god for both sides is a sham though all terrorist groups want land and power and will use anything to get it wether its isis, al qaeda or america
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>>689636248
so edgy
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>>689636099

>US ideology is personal liberty
>ISIS ideology is extreme ultra-orthodox Islam

If you want to make this pic anything other than propaganda, then don't use some neocon bitch holding a bible for the US pic. It literally has nothing to do with American foreign policy. Oh, but that's right. You're just trying to whine about bullshit you don't understand, my mistake.
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>>689637464
Actually no she don't. The problem is the politicians and the liberal groups that think the Muslim countries are suppressed and think they have to send in the military to "free" them. That is why they need to attack the politicians and the liberal jew groups if they want it to stop. Some people don't deserve freedom, if they did they would do something about it in their own country.
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>>689637358
srbija wont crumble. you generalizing fuck. we went toe to toe with america in the 90s and we almost won. srbija best country
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>>689637609
No, Christians just rejoice when people who they consider "sinners" and "sodomites" die.

Christians have not killed sinners and sodomites in hundreds of years. Islamists are killing them NOW.


We cannot possibly solve the problem as long as otherwise intelligent people think like OP. As long as we cannot NAME the problem of Black, muslim and mexican violence, we will not be fixing it.

Fixing the problem is NOT on the menu for a very very long time as a result of not being able to NAME it.
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>>689636099
The girl on the left will fight to protect her family, freedom and her way of life.
>also hot

The on the right will kill herself to try and kill innocents, spread a religion of hate.
>also ugly
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>>689637358
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>>689637843
>Now your just being naive.

Now, you're just being an apologist moron. Welcome new friend.
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>>689636099
The one on the left is hotter.
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>>689638183

lol no
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Panic at the disco
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>>689638183
>we went toe to toe with america in the 90s and we almost won.

still lost by a long long way - and we didn't even put boots on the ground.
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>>689638452
/thread
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>>689636099
That fucking backwards flag
That is not how you display an American flag REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>689638452
/thread
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>>689638452
mvp
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Well, my boy, the lefties are a mixed up bunch. They don't know whether they're sucking dick, or killing gays.
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>>689638452
this
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>>689636749
>But most American troops pray to God for support

We can tell where you're from, because in American troops are free to worship any god(s) they like, not a singular one like you must be confined too.

>But most American troops

It's 2016, most US troops probably haven't been praying to god since the 1940s, maybe late 60s.

Then again, none of the current US troops have ever peered over the top a water logged higgin's boat door on there way to fight against scumbags like you.
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One of them thinks vaginas and cocks are equal
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>>689636099
One is of good aryan stock and wants to defend her country from poo people
The one of he right is a smelly mud person that wants to kill men, women and children for her crazy 9 limbed lobster god and blow her self up so she can be with allah in the after life and get to bang 72 hairy sand people
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>>689638452
/thread
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>>689638725
as someone in the navy; this is true. before i was shipped out to bootcamp, i had to swear in at a MEPS station before going to the airport.
they said we had the option of not saying 'God' in "So God help me."
>"Then again, none of the current US troops have ever peered over the top a water logged higgin's boat door on there way to fight against scumbags like you."
fucking savage
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>>689639111
lemme check that for you my nigger
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>>689638353
thats subjective. her forehead is like a balloon, i think the one on right is hotter that being said , kebab needs to be removed

>>689638515
>>689638436
maybe next time us doesnt stop us when we are trying to exterminate the kebeab? how about it. also fight like men not like flying monkey in helecopter gunshop
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>>689636099
One is a warrior of allah, the other is a POSER
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I think OP is particularly stupid for asking this question as a thought experiment, because it fails pretty hard, and we can know that OP swallows every time someone shoves a cock in his mouth.
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>>689638166
> sum ppl dont deserve fruhdum

Why am I studying politics, philosophy, sociology when there are people so bright on the internet
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>>689639111
I just witnessed dubs of savage witnessed justice.

look at these punk funking jihad fucks. the idiot on left actually has a pellet rifle lol
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>>689639255

This guy.

It's like he actually thinks Serbia isn't the world's dumpster.
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build the wall, and leave OP on the mexican side
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This will all end soon like the Crusades.
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>>689638569
it's hanging off the house, as in an angled poll (which you can see) so yes, yes that is how you display it
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>>689639362

I'll get ahead of the pack here and nip this in the bud:

>implying he's the dumbass when you're majoring in your own future unemployment
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>>689639268
>One is a warrior of allah,

Coward of Allah, that uses their own children as human shield, fires rockets from schools and hospitals, and prays for death?

Smelly too?
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>>689639545

far from it. yugoslavia used to be great land. us and germany managed to break apart socialism from inside our govt and broke out country apart. srbija is still trying to do good, and it is not too bad right now. still trying to play on both the eu and russia side, which is shrewd.

on the other hand, as far as third world countries go, america is pretty shit tier
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>>689639111
also i forgot to mention that when i was in bootcamp; my division's RPOC was a muslim.
>>689636749
>"But most American troops pray to God for support"
Anon is just some mindless brain dead motherfucker that enjoys the smell of his asshole so much that he will not pull his head out of his ass.
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>>689639917
first* whops
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>>689639917

>spews bullshit

Whatever makes your dick hard, kid.
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>>689639748
>uses their own children as human shield, fires rockets from schools and hospitals, and prays for death
I'm not seeing any problem here, you talk like if it was a bad thing in fact throw missiles in schools and hospitals is that is cowardice to me
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>>689640154
it true. jugo was a magic place where socialism actually worked. big bad west europ and us had to come and ruin it because it was working perfectly.

look up the history before you say i am bullshit
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>>689636099
you fucking retard, thats not isis, shes a member of hamas
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>>689636099

Because one is the world hegemon and as much as the little bitch tribes around Rome said "they are picking on us!!" Rome's conquest and subjugation of the surrounding lands brought stability and order.

Whether you like it or not, that's the game humanity plays. Hopefully the strongest nation is relatively just and rational.

ISIS are a bunch of backwards goat fuckers that chop off the heads of their captives. Yes, America tortures also, and we kill plenty of people. But we at least make a nod toward doing it humanely. ISIS smashes peoples heads with rocks because they are brutish barbarous fucks who if they were destroyed utterly and without mercy the free world would not weep.
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>>689636099
The white chick knows how to handle a gun correctly. You don't put your finger on the trigger unless you are ready to fire at that moment. ISIS bitch is inexperienced.
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>>689639738
I'd rather die ten times than to say that not all people are created equal. So unemployment is okay by me, I know I will never be this level of a cuck.
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>>689640412
>jugo was a magic place

Oh, Eastern Europe. You're so fucked up. It's like listening to a talking dumpster through a tin can on a string underwater and drunk. The best part? You'll never change.
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>>689640797
she isnt isis, shes hamas
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>>689636099
That's hamas. ISIS doesn't allow women to fight
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>>689641030
pls anon. jugoslavia took shit from nobody. maybe rest of eastern europe was messed up, but jugoslavia was a great place. again, dont talk about things you dont understand and dont generalize.

jugo was jewel of eastern europe. we had 24th highest gdp at one time.

also why would i have to change? srbija isnt doing so hot now, ill admit it, but it is working its way up after getting dismantled by your bully country :(
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>>689638183

Russianfag here. We'll fight alongside our Serbian brothers

Fuck NATO and the EU
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>>689640959

I'm not even agreeing with him, but you're going to regret your choice of major when you actually grow up, dude. I know you're still in that age where you can justify wasting so much time and money on something that will have so little return, but fuck it. All kids are like that. Now feel free to give me some kind of starry eyed rebuttal about the nobility of the pursuit of wisdom while you're still well placed to fall into the safety net of your parent's wealth in the case of any personal misstep.
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>>689641828
still salty about your sphere of influence failing in the face of american democracy, eh?

to be fair though, I'm american and I see the ukraine and byelorussia as russian, or at least well within russian influence.

like how canada is basically a 51st state
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>>689641828
:') slavs will rise

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_in4ysLpVLY

>>689641517
pic related you fucking faggot
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>>689642138
this is gdp per capita btw
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>>689641828

translation:
>We're both really good at getting black out drunk and crouching on front stoops in track suits
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>>689641178
read the title she is isis
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>>689642138
was meant for
>>689641030
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>>689639111
Those trips made me orgasm
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One has a mean bush.
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>>689636099
I would fuck the one on the left. I would kill the one on the right.
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>>689636099
The pretty white girl won't go shoot up a gay club in the name of her "prophet".
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>>689642138

Big fish in a small, small pond, eh? Good for you, buddy. Good for you. At this rate you'll be in the G8...never?
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>>689641953
Father is dead, mom is a mess and going to die soon. Hopefully I will be happy because I dig knowledge from books. If I'm very lucky I could be in the press or as writer, if not I don't care I will be a mess.
Don't mind me, I choose the right path and I'm glad to be enlighten by reflexion as poor as I may be. I speak 5 languages, I study different domains and plan on doing more than a simple master. I don't even wish to work in the domain, I just love the knowledge.

So yeah I was a little bit triggered when anon said "we're not equal" but it's okay, and don't worry about my life choices, now that I know a few things about philosophy, psychology, sociology, I know there was no better choice to make me a better man. Thanks for the thought tho' I hope you're doing fine with your money.
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>>689641828
>Fuck NATO and the EU

sounds awesome! carry on guys!
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>>689642624
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8_kUQVlMmk

sources is in desc

probably not for a long time, if ever. but united states is evil place.

to remain on top, it takes apart other countries. united states is the fucking worst. And the best part? You cannot prove me wrong.
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>>689638452
/thread

gg mussiez
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Fight the Christian extremists by becoming Dan.
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>>689637275
What the fuck is this shit
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>>689643142
the fuck u on about m8?
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>>689636099
There is no difference because both were created by the United States.
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>>689638456
I took me a minute to get this post but 10/10
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>>689643333
it s quad ;)
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>>689643333
OH SHIT my first quads.

OP here btw
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>>689643467
What? You're not OP. I'm OP you fucking faggot!
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>>689643015

lol

I love this shit. You're so fucking patriotic that your ego requires you to tear down the US simply because you have literally zero chance to compete with them.

>We are dog shit compared to the US, therefore US is evil place!

Uh huh. Sure. I'm not even American and I can see the transparency of your bullshit.
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>>689643596
Son of bitch I knew some cum gulper would do this
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>>689636099
No difference, women are retarded no matter where you go
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>>689638094
>edgy
>hurr durr so edgy
>the edge

he's right faggot
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>>689643596
>>689643467

Fuck you both. OP here. Stop stealing my thread, newfags.
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>>689643676
the united states TOOK DOWN MY HOMELAND and FOR NO FUCKING REASON. whichever country you are from, im sure you have never experienced losing your country

it is for this reason that they are evil, not that we cant compete with them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp2BqGQkUYs
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Who's ready for some world peace? Huh?
Huh?
WOOO! LETS GO HAND IN HAND BROTHERS!
Once we are united we can finally advance as a species.
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>>689643956
>stealing my thread
>stealing
>my thread

smells like summer
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>>689643956
MODSS Prove the IPs match!!

>mfw mods troll me also
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>>689638452

Yes, because white, religious Americans have never committed a mass shooting right???????

right?????
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>>689644074
srbija person here. i cannot wait for this
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>>689636099
One shows a defense of their way of life and long noble heritage.
The other shows an attempt to take over the world and literally no heritage.
Brown people aren't people.
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>>689636180
/thread
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>>689636099
none
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>>689644189
Also I'm still waiting for an answer
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>>689643984

Get fucked
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>>689644074
kek

sure mate, you go hand in hand with some allahuakbars while I watch you guys explode together, hand in hand
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>>689643015
Fairly certain North Korea tops the list in #MostEvilCountries
Stop using the internet Kim Jong-un.You're drunk on cupcakes again.
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lol lots of goat fuckers here.


Muhammad fucked little girls and fucks goats
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>>689636099 One is an actual pussy, and the other will actually kill you,
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>>689644444
I am American sir. Nice quints by the way my friend.
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>>689643015
can you prove yourself right.?
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>>689644826
>implying there's no sandniggers in 'murica
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>>689636099
the American bitch is hot
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>>689644394
evil place

>>689644532
i dont know about that. north korea doesnt have capability to do anything. united states on the other hand does and is doing everyhting it can to keep all other countries down by force. why do you think thre are so many nato bases all around the world? why do you think us defense budget is so high? it is because if anyone is trying to build themselves up, us takes their countries, their rights, down.

us is most evil place because of the things that they do and have been doing for a while now

>>689644902
yes
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>>689644444
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>>689636099
One side kills children for oil and one side kills children for allah, atleast the u.s. is profiting.
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>>689636099
one of them won't kill you for disagreeing with her, the other is owned by her husband is definitely going to hell for taking a picture with her face showing.

wait.. that's not a marvel fan on the right?
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>>689636099
defense and offense
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>>689644951
Well, can't argue with that one.
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>>689645104
North Korea either has nuclear weaponry. They are a nuclear power now.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-nuclear-report-idUSKCN0Z02A4
Let that sink in for a second.
Now, with their history of human rights violations and lack of basic services, they top the list.
If you believe anything else, you are biased beyond stupidity.
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>>689644206
You mean in the name of Christ? In the past few decades?

In

the

name

of

Christ?
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>>689644444
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>>689645421
>defense and offence
Please. That's the oldest trick in the book. When [we] commit acts of violence abroad it's defense. When [they] do it, it's offense
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>>689636099
One defends you, the other attacks and murders you
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>>689645910
I'm Iranian so I find this comment correct
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welcome to the family son
welcome to the fam son
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>>689645889
Whose side are you on? Your countrymen or those who wish to see you and your countrymen dead?
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>>689645626
US has nuclear weaponry. It is nuclear power now.
Let that sink in for a second.
Now, with US history of human rights violations (guantanmo bay, japanese american internment, black people up until 1960s i think), it tops the list.
If you believe anything else, you are biased beyond stupidity.

Furthermore, just because us is "only superpower" left doesnt give us ability to say what is right and what isnt right. stupid americans are brainwashed into thinking us cannot do anything wrong. im not saying north korea is not fucked (it is), but us is far worst.

also see
>>689645889

when you are on top you can rewrite the rulebook. is it right? no its pure evil
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>>689646335
so that's it is it? My team is always right and yours is always wrong? Truth, justice, fairness etc have nothing to do with it?
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>>689646335
that kind of mentality is same as mentality germans had in nazi germany. what us did to destabilise power in so many countries is wrong. it is likely that there wouldnt be any muslim terrorists if their countries were still intact
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>>689645665

>mfw dipshits lack self awareness

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism#Contemporary

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence#United_States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_God_(United_States)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centennial_Olympic_Park_bombing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Covenant,_The_Sword,_and_the_Arm_of_the_Lord

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_Springs_Planned_Parenthood_shooting
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>>689636865
Spot on
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>>689646729
this a thousand times this

when will us own up to its own wrongdoings in the world
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Both are retarded cucks who believe in an imaginary friend. Tbh I feel like both would be gone if religion were eradicated.
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>>689636099
Left; Would fuck silly
Right; would fuck with an RPG
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>>689636099
anyone that has read both books knows that the Bible tells you not to kill, but the quran tells you that you must murder the innocent. in fact, the only way to be assured entrance into heaven, according to the quran, is to doe while murdering the innocent for allah. the Bible teaches that God loves all, whereas the quran teaches that allah hates, and that is why he doesn't let the damned believe.
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>>689647410

Hot
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>>689646468
The US has been since the 40s, and it has used it a grand total of twice in the same year in '45.
Don't be a fucking retard.
Not to mention the fact whenever something goes wrong in the world, and the UN steps in, who the fuck do you think sends the bulk of the troops?
UK? Canada? Uganda?
No.
The US. They also supply 75% off the UN's operating funding.
Lastly, whenever there is a tragedy in the world, from tsunami, to earthquakes, to disease outbreaks, it is the US that always organizes and sends aid first and foremost.
I am not saying the US is an angel, far from it, but if they were half the monster you think they are, they'd have taken whatever they wanted and fucked over the world by now.
It's not like that.
This coming from a Canadian.
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>>689646832
>implying that's even 1% of stuff mussiez have done.
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>>689647133
Seems like denouncing our religion would fix most things huh?
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>>689636099

this will explain everything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-o7YG3x0DI
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>>689636099
Muslim sympathizer detected
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BTW Gallup does and international opinion poll each year. A few years back they asked the question:

Which country do you think is the greatest threat to peace in the world today?”

Anyone wanna guess the top answer?
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>>689646832
Mfw that's less than .001% of what the muslims have done. Keep trying though
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>>689646800
Wrong. If we sided with the Nazis, as our cultures inclined us to, we could have wiped out all inferior beings, including these terrorists. You can not speak reason to a barbarian. Some people understood this.

>>689646729
You clearly do not understand the world yet, son.
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>>689636099
the white bitch is hotter and her culture is way better
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>>689636099
The one on the left is going to pose with her gun and bible, then post it on fb for attention and afterwords drink a long island ice tea while sitting under a veranda,

While the one on the right will spode her sweaty boob matter into people's foreheads.
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>>689638452

What about that rooff kid with the gay haircut. He was pretty extreme.
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>>689647492
ah but dont you think the us has taken down what it can??? if the us was going beresrk left and right killing other countries, dont you think the whole world would turn on it? also, wars cost money canadaguy. if the us had more $ it would surely be doing more militarily, although in current state of affairs, it certainly has no one to compete with. us can completely wipe out many non-nuclear countries. its continued overfunding of military sector shows you that its only way to stay at the top is through physical means

bit by bit and no one will notice, until the whole world as at mercy of us
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>>689636099
>Implying killing a person is bad
Bad is to betray your own moral rules, not to not obey op's ones
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>>689647760
ok fair but it is still mob mentality, which is oftentimes wrong
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>>689636099
White people are awesome.
Sandniggers are shitskin goat fuckers.
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>>689642135

Fuck off fag. Canada is your gas station. But we're not fucking retarded amerifucks
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>>689647706

The guy I replied to asked me if Christians ever committed shootings in the name of Christ. I proved that they did. Nobody ever said anything about numbers.

Keep trying though
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>>689636099
One's willing to blow up their body to kill other people. One's willing to defend their loved ones.

Why the fuck is Western Christian civilization so hated? Because it's the most successful and most moral of all sects in the world. Get fucked you little Bernie faggots. Yeah I'm mad.
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>>689647760

Why do you have to speak condescendingly towards him, although he is right? God gave us beautiful brains with which we could do anything we wanted, and yet we chose to bicker and fight. What a shitty world this is.
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>>689647536

So you're saying they're the same, except the muzzies are just way better at it
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>>689647464
Check again. There are numerous quotes in the bible saying to kill non believers.
Check out Deuteronomy 17 and 13 to start with.
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>>689636099
One is a good ol' american girl expressing her right of freedom to bear arms and freedom of religion. The other is a dumb cunt that doesn't have basic weapon safety training (finger on the trigger for fuck's sake), will never hold a gun again since she'll be used as minesweeper, as a human shield or be sold into slavery, and would get beheaded if she decided to believe in another religion.
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>>689636099
The left is on the defensive on stupidity.
>Protext Muh Freeduhms! Muh Christ!
The right is on the offensive on stupidity
>I Allahu Akbar! You no Allahu Akbar! Therefore, I behead you in the name of Allahu Akbar!

Prove me wrong.
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>>689647492
ALSO, the UN is nothing but a united states puppet. when the us went in to bomb belgrade in 1999, un did not say anything about it, yet when russia takes crimea, un has something to say about it.

un clearly acting for us interest
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>>689648496
I would disagree with that. What is good for your people is also good for you.
>>689648852
My point is the the mind is more liberal in youth, more conservative with age. Older men hold more experienced opinions.
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>>689647706
They are just incidents from the US. Plenty of other Christian and catholic countries with much worse statistics. Add Eastern Europe and parts of Africa and South America into those statistics too.
Hardly fair to compare the US against all Muslim countries.
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>>689648396
The US is #1 in GDP overall and 9th in GDP (PPP).
It has money coming out its fucking ears.
More than enough money to do whatever the fuck it wants to whomever it wants, without serious fear of retribution, want to know why?
The US outspends its next nearest (in amounts) 22 countries for military spending - combined.
The US military industrial complex is a huge, terrible beast, and could roll over anything it wants, at any time.
The US has never expanded its holdings, and doesn't sabre rattle like other dictatorships. It doesn't seek to invade or conquer.
Just shut the fuck up with your delusions of the US being some big bad boogeyman out to get you.
You sound like Anita Sarscammian and the patriarchy.
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>>689649648
Lol Your kidding right?
The US climbed Belgrade to stop what was becoming genocide.
Russia partly caused the problems in the Crimea and then used it as an excuse to take over.
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>>689649693

Of course the muslim extremists are bad, but you have to think, why are they showing up? The United States created some serious damage to many Muslim nations in the name of muh freedomz. It is understandable they would feel the need to retaliate.

Are we not all citizens of the world? Can we not figure problems out without resorting to violence?
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>>689636749
Oh yeah no difference. Besides that ISIS kills innocent civilians, but you know, other than that were pretty much the same.
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>>689648977
This dude knows the difference between natural law, divine law, eternal law, and human law.

Or maybe not.
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>>689637121
>the american girl doesn't go out and use her assault rifle like a madman

What about the americans who do?
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>>689650273
>It doesn't seek to invade or conquer.
Do you really believe that? Try checking some time
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Blum/US_Interventions_WBlumZ.html
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>>689638183
Almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades my friend.
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>>689650466
And the US hasn't killed thousands of civilians?
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>>689650466
Yeah, US troops have NEVER killed innocent civilians
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>>689648977
Old Testament vs New Testament.
The Quran doesn't change playbooks like the Bible does, it keeps its "behead all infidels" ideology going.
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>>689650525
Oh oh let me try, it's a trick question, all of them are made up entirely by men
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The one on the left represents a religion that has had a full four and a half centuries longer to grow brains and SHAPE THE FUCK UP for the modern world.

The one on the right is significantly more overtly intolerant and likely to condone violence, but by "fundie" membership standpoints, they're basically the same level of retarded.
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Right, right.....The bible thumping girl who likes guns is responsible for all those drone strikes and not the Nobel Peace Prize winning black president who authorized them solely on the authority of his own executive orders.
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>>689650273
You fucking imbecile. you fucking melon. read what i said. if it actually did expand holdings, people around the world would go crazy and would go against the us. the us is doing what it can to create situations where it has to intervene for the benefit of all humans on earth, in order to gain influence there.

it is using hard and soft power in a way to manipulate people on earth stealthily.

>>689650369
LOL, BY FUCKING BOMBING HOSPITALS, NEWSPAPER OFFICES AND SCHOOLS?

also what does the us do to literally every country it needs to invade to secure "freedom" and "democracy". it creates situations, just like russia did in crimea. except in crimea, one could say russias actions were somewhat justified, because there are a lot of russians living in ukraine.
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>>689647464
This isn't even good bait. Go away.
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>>689650884
well it was that close
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>>689650451
No, violence has been and will be the answer. I'm not saying I particularly like it, but it is the truth. If you want to be taken seriously, you must fight. If you lack the will to fight, you do not belong.
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>>689636099
White bitch doesnt put innocent people in Cages and drown them. Suck a fart out of my asshole, dubsfag.
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>>689651397
us probably didnt have to fight in first place if it didnt destabilze the countries it did.

and no, violence is not always the answer. of course if you want to be taken sriously you have to fight, and fighting is good if it is truly for defense. but what us is doing around the world is no longer defense, it is offense
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>>689651107
Not a trick question, just moral and academic differences that are so far over your head they're in outer space
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>>689651001
Did god say ignore the Old Testament? Ofcourse not.
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>>689651792
I think the sarcasm might have gone over yours. It's the 21st century, grow the fuck up and stop believing I fairies
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>>689650844
William Blum - the man who Osama bin Laden idolized.
Who was, and likely still is, paid by the US as a distraction to ferret out the political dissidents so they can keep track of them.
Good job.
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>>689651780
I would presume then, by that criteria, our Union should not exist in your mind? We took all this land from the natives through "offense."
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>>689652264
no. us should not exist. countless native lives lost. if they wanted to live side by side with natives, sure they can do that, but what they did was pretty horrible.
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>>689647536
When Christianity was on the rise it was like a plague, it left thousands dead.
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>>689651311
I don't like the US. In general I agree with you.
But your kidding yourself with this comparison.
The Balkan war was filled with massacres mainly done by Serbs. That is fact with plenty of proof behind it.
The trouble in Crimea was caused by Russians and Russian sympathizers.

No idea how you can even compare them.
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>>689652537
Not the guy you're talking to. But from that point of view no country should exist, every single one is built upon seas of blood
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>>689652119
Nice try at an ad hominem but what is factually incorrect in what he says?

The engine of American foreign policy has been fueled not by a devotion to any kind of morality, but rather by the necessity to serve other imperatives, which can be summarized as follows:

* making the world safe for American corporations;

* enhancing the financial statements of defense contractors at home who have contributed generously to members of congress;

* preventing the rise of any society that might serve as a successful example of an alternative to the capitalist model;

* extending political and economic hegemony over as wide an area as possible, as befits a "great power."

This in the name of fighting a supposed moral crusade against what cold warriors convinced themselves, and the American people, was the existence of an evil International Communist Conspiracy, which in fact never existed, evil or not.

The United States carried out extremely serious interventions into more than 70 nations in this period.
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>>689652064
"this is your new commandment. Love thy neighbor." the old testament was the law the jews lived by, jesus brought new law.. that "love thy neighbor" bit is literally the one law jesus puts down for people to follow.
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>>689652704
*Catholicism
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You all wanna know the funny thing?
Muslims, Jews and Christfags share a God. And each religion contradicts one another
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>>689651440
How do you know the Muslim chick put people in cages and drowned them?
Using that logic the American chick must be rapist and murderer as US soldiers raped and killed people in Iraq and then burned the bodies.
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>>689650921
Hey. Retard. The United States does not take military action with the intent to kill civilians. Terrorists purposefully target innocent civilians. While there has been collateral damage in the past this is incredibly different from the acts of terrorism that are designed to kill civilians.
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>>689651107
I'm just trying to understand why your "sarcastic" point, that Christianity is a morality completely constructed my man, according to you, holds less weight than your completely man made morality.
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>>689643333
Yo man, I made out this link
https://d35f7hc7sd7mduv5.onion.to/
for tor I usually just use the .to for tor links and it gave me some code
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This thread is so full of faggots it ,akes me want to scream. Both sides are provocative, but one fuckingnside is running over civilians with tanks and posting videos. The other side is positioning a wwe hall of famer for president. I hate you all. I would lovenit if we could kill every last one of you fucking entitled nigger faggots. Human beings are the whiniest bitches in the world.
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>>689652958
Yeah, because protestants, calvinists, etc didn't massacre anyone
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>>689636865
holy shit lmao
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>>689636099
Isis kills women and children. Isis bombs and kills themselves. Isis kills innocents and tortures people. You already know this you stupid fuck.
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>>689653118
>The United States does not take military action with the intent to kill civilians
No, the US first redefines "innocent civilians" as "enemy combatants" and then kills them with impunity
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>>689653202
Logic trumps tradition
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>>689653038
For fuck's sake, you're a retarded person.
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Defense vs offense
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>>689653468
Other then kills themselves the US has done all those things.

Funny you stupid Americans all seem to think she is isis. She is from Hamas and is fighting Israel.
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>>689652786
i agree with this

>>689652755
yea u right, us and nato had every right to stop a non-nato country from attacking a non-nato country. russia did start the crimea shit. what i am saying is that one can say it was somewhat justified because crimea actually has majority population being russian and putin was arguably doing what is best for russian people in crimea
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>>689653679
Only... you're not using logic. You're using that as a buzzword. You completely ignored my logical argument.
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>>689652537
You do realize that there's pretty damn good evidence that most of those natives took the land they were on from other tribes, by force. No one that survived to be written about is without sins in their past.
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>>689652537
The natives did not want to share this land with us.

>>689652786
So, then, violence is necessary to maintain borders.
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>>689653736
How is the Muslim not defending her country when it's occupied by Israel. I dont see any countries attacking the US.
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>>689645265
>profit v. prophet.
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They are the same. The disease of religion and violence has corrupted them.
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>>689653696
Actually they do. The Jews have the Hebrew bible which is the old testament and the Islams have the Quran which is a twisted Cristian Jesus thing written but a homophobic pedophile that didn't like pork and got too much sun and was delusional.
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>>689654005
Then again, why are borders necessary? Common folk living on the borders don't care about them tbh, many border places in Europe don't give a fuck about them and would prove probably live their lives the same if they didn't exist
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>>689652786
Also, anarchy would be a complete disaster.
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>>689636099
The American chick is much worse. At the very least, the Muslim chick probably had no choice. It's either that, or become a sex slave. The American girl makes her decisions on her own free will.
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>>689653959
>>689654005
fuck contries in general
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>>689653679
Try and understand it this way. Let's assume there is no deity.

Any sense of morality is strictly derived from physical laws. I'm asking you why your condemnation of my moral beliefs is any more valid than yours.

That's actually a trick question. It isn't.
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>>689636099
The one on the right probably knows how to cook
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>>689654307
Muslims are pouring into Europe because of their open borders. They are paying the price for it, too. Our Union faces the same fate.
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>>689637275
Moriarty?
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>>689653918
So you think that laws such as killing infidels are laws that should overrule the other ones? "divine laws" are the laws of ignorant herders from millenia ago that needed to fill the gap. It had its uses, no longer
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>>689636099
One is in a military oppressed country and has been brain washed by religious doctrine from birth.
The other is a Muslim.
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>>689654246
And you learned this all from CNN?
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>>689654832
Where the fuck are you inferring this from?
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>>689654449
Why don't you go out and kill someone right now? Is it because you're afraid of eternal retaliation, because some imaginary friend has told you so, or because you think that killing somebody is not a nice thing to do?
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>>689643984
You can't compete with an ants nest, get the fuck out of here gimp.
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>>689655193
You're not a Mormon. Are you?
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>>689637516
yes, US is attacking
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>>689636248
OW!
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>>689655466
im not asking to be able to compete with us. there are big countries and there are small countries. we knew our place and made our own little niche and it worked. also gimp is not nice term? :(
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>>689655879
Ya dun goofed, srbja
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>>689639255
Maybe if you didn't live in a shit hole you could put YOUR monkeys on a gunshop
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>>689653255
what does it link to?
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>>689637397
No it is more of "Let me come home to my family"
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>>689649919
Bullshit. Go get the statistics of your alleged shootings in the name of Christ. It's so rare you can't find anything, but when you type in terrorism and Islam you will be reading shit for fucking years.
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>>689636099

You're a faggot. I hope a Muslim kills you in a gay bar.
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>>689655199
Because my "imaginary friend" told me to. Any other creature in the animal kingdom would feel otherwise.
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>>689639255
Yeah, because removing *insert country or ethnicity* has always worked so well
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>>689656208
:(
>>689656358
we used to be able to, then us gunshop took it down :(

Jugoslavia najlepsa zemlja koja je ikada postojala! Jugoslavija was the only true Paradise on Earth. Forever sad in exile.
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>>689655471
Catholic
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>>689636459
>Simple one is not going around for fuck of it killing in the name of a God, America kills for land not who you worship.
>ignorant retard, detected
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Decision is easy.

One is hot and 10/10, the other is a smelly sandnigger that sucks off goats under the sun and smells like a dirty gypsy with curry powder pushed up her box.
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>>689636099
One I could go and ask for a Cup of Sugar or
possibly talk to about local bylaws
or share a beer with and have unprotected sex
Upload it to the internets and make millions

The other

Would not answer door or open sand
passage would probably shoot for
asking for some sugar would end in getting
shot and decapitated and posted on some
site for extremist groups
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>>689637464
/thread
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>>689656619
kek
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>>689636099
killing fur murica is ok cause muh freedumb!!!!!!
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>>689637918
/thread
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>>689656676
this was joke anon, to make us sympathize with srbija cause. muslims in jugoslavia were not problem. lots of racist in jugoslavia wanted to kill peaceful muslim
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>>689650451
Understandable they kill innocents and children? No. If it was up to me I'd nuke those countries. Make a glass desert out of them. No more fucking terrorists. I'd be as bad as them fuckheads but atleast it's the end.
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>>689656969
Nice double 69's
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>>689653202
>a morality completely constructed my man
An antiquated morality. It was created by few people who held sway over many and the laws are absolute and cannot be questioned.

Modern laws are also based on constructed and inherited morality however they are constructed and revised by representatives who are elected by the public so the morality based laws continue to evolve as we mature as a culture.

Neither one can be said to be objectively better for the moment but religious morality is designed to not change while public morality will continue to change, giving it the potential to better itself.
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>>689656822

dubs don't lie.
checked!
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>>689657124
Killing for UK is NOT ok because I'd rather muslim sand niggers rape my queen
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>>689636099
What a dumb fucking argument op. Seriously and this thread really went to 280 replies? Fucking really??
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>>689657155
just saying. the terrororsts would probably not have become terrirosts if their country didnt go to shit. look at before and after pictures of baghdad, cities in syria and other muslim places. it was probbaly nice. but us killed it
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>>689652797
Nothing is totally correct, and nothing is totally incorrect.
His rhetoric is designed by the US government and put out by him to find the radicals that would take it too far.
Prove me wrong.
You can't.
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>>689656649
So if your imaginary friend told you to stop eating say, prawns, because they are filthy would you do it? Is something moral or good because he says so?
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>>689638452
Fuckin snap niggas
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>>689636099
The girl on the left as never killed anyone nor will she ever. She just thinks it's a cute photo. The one on the right....
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