Why on earth do you need the 2nd Amendment?
>Hurr protect from the Government!
How retarded can you get? Your hick lard ass will literally get squished like a jelly donut by tanks and bombed into nothingness from the sky. If they want to go Hitler on you, they will, trust me.
>Hurrr self defense!
Come on. Really? In the middle of the night, half asleep...you're going to take out a robber?
>Because It makes me feel like a MAN!
Your pecker is still tiny. Sorry.
And you defend it like a hard core christian defends Jesus. You're not even open to MINOR changes in your gun law. In my country, we solve our problems with intellect and at the worst, a pair of fists. Honestly, give me your argument for why the 2nd Amendment is needed, if you say "government tyranny", I'll honestly laugh at my screen.
Good luck Murrica, you're going to fucking need it.
>>689430903
I just bought anothe AR today
You present the worst case scenario and say that because personal weapons would not prevail there is no reason to possess them. What about situations where you are NOT being attacked by billions of dollars worth of hardware. Maybe it's just one Fox News watching retard shooting people, and you can cut him into several pieces.
>>689430903
how many times are you going to start this stupid fucking bait thread?
>>689430903
>>689431204
Why though? Honestly would like to know what you're thinking.
Need the 2nd amendment because its the easiest way for you to kys
>>689431811
Because he wanted one.
>>689430903
They lie so that it looks like one man can do so much damage with one rifle!
>>689431811
I was thinking about my sweet new AR
>>689431894
/thread
>>689432240
Holy shit some random person on the internet said some bullshit? Illuminati confirmed.
>>689430903
>Protect from government
Yes.
>Self defense
Shotguns have a wide spread, esp with open choke. So yes.
>Feel like a man
Not really
>Recreation
They fun
>Food
Delicious deer meat.
>Way to bond with my father
Since he doesn't like video games
There are so many reasons. Why are you so small-minded?
>>689431988
Basically this... why do people need cars with 400hp? Why do people own own anything non essential?
>>689430903
>beat 3 dumb strawmen arguments as an excuse to violate the rights set forth in our constitution and continue to erode personal liberty
gr8 b8 m8
>>689430903
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jnp3AgXP0dU
This video is the reason.
>>689432242
Kek
>>689430903
Because gun laws work in Europe right? we never have mass shootings /sarcasm.
Also governments use violence as an excuse to apply stricter gun laws. but the only reason why they want it is because they want absolute control and power over its citizens.
>>689430903
>you say "government tyranny", I'll honestly laugh at my screen.
Well, funny to say, but this government used to pass a law that prohibited production, posession and drinking of alcohol.
Pretty funny, celebrating New Years Eve with a glass of orange juice, heh?
>>689430903
Your points suck op. If you really want I'll take the time to explain why but i got a feeling you're just trolling so unless you ask I'm not gonna go thru the trouble.
>>689432442
They get it, anon.
They don't like it.
> We're easier to manage unarmed. That's all.
The argument that guns are useful for self-defence is a stupid one.
If they're so essential, why did no one whip out their gun in the Orlando shooting?
Check fuckin m8, m8
>>689430903
Because some americans are insanely xenophobic and think that everyone is out to get them like back during the cold war.
Oh hey, maybe if americans stop being racist, imperialistic and undemocratic pieces of shit, they can have a civil constitution, like the rest of the civilized world!
>>689430903
Shouldn't you be changing your wifes sons diaper? Or maybe even your own?
>>689430903
The jews in power want to take guns away from the people. Why? To make it easier for them in case the people ever want to rebel against the kikes infilitrated in the media, government and banks (infiltrated just like they in Germany back in the day).
Anyways, that faggot shooting in Orlando was just another psyop. The kikes behind that psyop are literally trying to kill three birds with a single stone:
> to push the LGBT agenda even further and shove it down our throats until faggotry is normalized
> to push the anti-gun agenda to make it hard for a revolution
> to push the terrorism agenda, to make sand-niggers and Islam look bad and have a green light to keep erradicating mulsims in the middle east and make way for the protection and expansion of Israel, the land of greedy kikes.
It's a disgusting world we live in. It's perefct and beautiful, but those leaders behind curtains, the ones who never appear on the news or in books, they are the ones controlling you and everything you will do or think. They give you a reality through Scientism and corporate media, and boom, you become a brainwashed faggot who believes every report they tell you on jew-owned news outlets.
Wake up, faggots. Don't let the kikes think for you. They managed to manipulate the world into making the Germans look bad by lying about a Holocaust, you can bet your sorry faggot asses that they can do it again. Of course, it's much harder these days due to the internet, but they can still pull it off, bit by bit, through hoaxes and psyops. Wake up. Don't be a sheep. Don't be a filthy goyim.
Protect yourself and your families by the jewish invasion this country is suffering.
>>689430903
hitler was a good guy though... not even joking.
>>689430903
Frankly, if you don't get it, then just live in bewilderment about it.
Seriously, who the fuck cares if YOU understand why? We understand why.
You can go fuck yourself.
>>689430903
>http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp
>hundreds of thousands of americans use guns in self defense every year
>some tens of people get killed in a "mass shooting" once in a while
>hurr guns are bad ban all guns
>>689430903
Gun owner here,
I think alot of us are okay with changes actually. any rational shooter who has been to a range and seen cholos and rednecks bumpfiring an AK randomly across a hillside thinks there needs to be restrictions on who can own guns and who can't.
The reason many of these gun owners fear changes is the tendency of our government to get on a roll with legislation and take things from zero to sixty in 1 second flat. one little chink in the legislative wall and before you know it we're being told to take kitchen knives to public bin for "safe" disposal like those cucks in UK.
I agree that thins are a little too loose here, but given the number of fatal stabbings and clubbing s that still take place in "safe" Britain, you can't seriiusly think that kind of thing is good.
>How retarded can you get? Your hick lard ass will literally get squished like a jelly donut by tanks and bombed into nothingness from the sky. If they want to go Hitler on you, they will, trust me.
ask the sand niggers in afghanistan that use lee enfields, and while youre in asia ask the rice niggers in vietnam too
>>689433106
http://controversialtimes.com/issues/constitutional-rights/12-times-mass-shootings-were-stopped-by-good-guys-with-guns/
check m8, m8
>>689433129
>Because some americans
>maybe if americans
maybe you can fuck off and stop worrying about what people in another country do you fucking jealous third world piece of shit
>>689433333
That's not a justification. Sorry
>>689433106
>Says random special interest group poster raiding /b/ for, like, the millionth time.
Dude, we're all fucked up. Let em all burn.
>>689433106
Insane gun nutjobs will always find ways to defend mass shootings.
If everything else fails the far right will bash homosexuals. Again.
>Well, if they had time to be gay they should've had the time to buy a gun! That would've saved them!
>>689433327
>The jews in power want to take guns away from the people.
Well they've done a pretty shitty job the last hundred years.
>>689433010
You have also Holocaust.
>>689433514
>One of the best education systems in the world here, and you anon?
>>689433106
>tial, why did no one whip out their gun in the Orlando shooting?
thats right, because they did not have one with them!
everyone should own a gun.
>>689433424
why is it your business who can own guns and who cant based on how they recreationally shoot with them I stopped reading after that
>>689433621
Which never happened. The holocaust was a jewish lie for a war won by jews, triggered by jews, all for the creation of the state of Israel in later years.
>>689433535
I don't need one. Sorry.
>>689430903
they're fun as fuck to own. LOLZ
how mad are you right now
>>689433106
There's laws against having guns where they serve alcohol......check and maytttttt.....fag
>>689433535
... And this isn't Reddit.
This is the part where I call you a faggot and you take it because you're a giant pussy.
>>689433621
yeah, alot more nazi's would have gotten shot when my country got invaded. but the government had to be so strict with gun laws. unfortunately.
>>689430903
point and laugh at the asshurt yurocuck
>>689434001
Fag.
>>689431204
getting played like a harp from hell
a classroom of kindergartners got riddled with a bushmaster and nothing was done.
your guns are safe AR-tards
>>689433129
>have first Constitution in the world and so good written that it is used tiil present, and most civilized laws at that time
>some eurocuck kebabeater tells you how to write a proper constitution
First, win some World War, then talk, shithead.
>>689433574
If they keep creating the shooting hoaxes, they can eventually cause the brainwashed people of the nation to want a change in the constitution. That's what the kikes are aiming for; to have the majority of americans voting for the annihilation of the 2nd ammendment.
>>689432442
Yes. This is not an argument. Do you honestly think you would have a chance??
I actually think the bonding thing is a better reason than that BS.
>>689432631
Your rights will get eroded with, or without guns.
>>689433010
We have seen them, but not to the horrendous extent that America does.
>>689433011
And that is now history. Do you think guns had something to do with it, or common sense?
>>689433327
sounds like pre Nazi germany to me
>>689433574
>hundred years
wut
>>689433791
because many people, you probably included, are fucking idiots with guns.
If you don;t seriously think that an operational competency test (i.e. a licensure) for firearms is a good idea, then you;re fucking retarded.
I would argue that being against direct unregulated individual resale of firearms also qualifies you as at least an idiot, if not fully retarded.
>>689430903
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
>>689433514
I'm american myself you retard. btw, /b/ is not your safe place for spouting far right bullshit.
Triggered? I hope so.
>>689433621
no... the Russians were responsible
>>689430903
All your irrational fears and pouting lips and stamping your prissy feet, all of that... ain't changing shiat.
So why don't you piss off, m8. We're keeping them.
ITT faggot liberals and shills
>>689434001
Which reddit do you mean? The far right reddit where you retards spout 4chan inside jokes and think that is acceptable?
>cuck cuck cuck
Please don't embarass yourself.
>>689433574
Only in America fam, they've succeeded pretty much everywhere else if you haven't been paying attention. And yet dumb britbongs will insist they're safer than us even though their violent crimerate is higher http://www.gallup.com/poll/21346/crime-rate-lower-united-states-canada-than-britain.aspx
>>689433971
Well then how did the muslim guy get the guns into the bar? didn't they know it was a gun free zone?
>>689434031
have you even heard about militia or guerilla warfare?
hitler didn't invade Switzerland during WHOLE war, idiot.
>>689430903
Self-defense, and constitutional lawyers agree, so...pffft.
If any of those poor gays had been carrying, then Orlando might very well have ended much better.
Eurocucks have no guns and muslims are still killing them, so please op keep making the issue about guns. You're doing quite well.
>>689434447
>gorillawarfare
Kek
>>689433424
This is a great response (OP here)
Like I can get my head around a recreational aspect to shooting, but even than, you have bow and arrows and steel BB guns.
I'd prefer a gun advocate with sense anyway over one with none. You seem to have sense anon so thank you.
>mud shoots up gay bar
>let's ban guns
we really ought to be banning the muds instead look what they're doing to Europe
>>689434787
we had resistance fighters. but 90% of the population had no access to any gun whatsoever.
if we did. things would have been alot different. idiot.
>689434441
in your eyes people having fun bumpfiring is being a fucking idiot? who the hell cares what the next guy over is doing with his gun as long as he's not waving it around at people. I don't think in the U.S. we have a problem with idiots killing one another en masse with guns that they dont know how to use on accident
>>689430903
Sled defense.
Government tyranny. (Fuck you this is an actual legitimate reason)
Because we believe Everyman should have the right to own a gun if he is responsible.
Freedom comes at the cost of human life because we have idiots in the world, the best thing personally to do is defend yourself against them.
>>689435018
you still would have gotten rekt.
>>689434574
As opposed to the alternative? Totalitarian far right wing radicals?
Let's check my list....
>4chan
>cuckcuckcuck
>ze jews
>GOD EMPEROR
>>689434996
Says the american who is not allowed to drink yet and never even visited a different state in his own country, let alone europe.
Seriously, uwotm8? Embarassing.
>>689433643
>here
and as usual, you little faggots too scared to say where that exactly is. scared little bitches.
>>689435092
You gotta be shitting me, summer is here kek
He's hackin and whackin and smackin and hackin and whackin and smackin and hackin and whackin and smackin and hackin and whackin and smackin and hackin and whackin and smackin and hackin and whackin and smackin and hackin and whackin and smackin and hackin and whackin and smackin and hackin and whackin and smackin
>>689430903
We need a second Amendment because it would look silly to have a first and a third without one.
>>689434538
>Irrational
Yet you present NO counter argument. Guns are idiotic and pointless. Admit it. There's a good anon.
>>689434790
And if that Mudslime couldn't get a gun, then it wouldn't have happened.
>>689435280
ofc, massive prepared german army vs the netherlands (tiny unprepared shit army) but what i said was, alot more nazi's would have gotten shot.
>>689435280
and the resistance would have been better equipped.
>>689430903
Guns are fun, faggot
>>689435356
Can you read to me what it says at the top of the image board? "Only fools take anything posted here as fact"
>>689430903
Why do we need the 1st? Or the 14th? Or the 19th?
>>689431811
To make Obama cry again.
It had so much impact last time.
If a school full of babies getting murdered didn't change anyone's minds, why the fuck would you think a bar full of cocksmokers would?
Seriously, the people whose minds that would change, are already on your side. And they are vastly outnumbered. So suck up that bitter ashy taste of defeat there, son! You lose. You get nothing. Good day, sir.
>>689435356
Yes because 4chan is a totally legitimate organization, even more dangerous than ISIS
>>689435456
too soon but fuck
>>689435356
Settle down Hymie.
>>689435590
Op just can't figure out how to to stick it up his ass.
>>689435700
pro gun in USA is just a vocal minority tbh
>>689430903
>How retarded can you get? Your hick lard ass will literally get squished like a jelly donut by tanks and bombed into nothingness from the sky. If they want to go Hitler on you,
Yeah cos that worked in Northern Ireland, Palestine, Libya, Afghanistan, Vietnam.
>>689435484
guns are not pointless when your enemy has them. wtf do you wanna do? grab a sword?
the ability to protect yourself at a very basic level is a good thing to have.
because your government will not fucking save you. they do not give a shit.
>>689435712
>>689435817
The UK is so fucking cucked it's not even funny. Ok, it's a bit funny. Fucking faggot bitches.
>>689434276
Yeah, and after beating down a totalitarian regime continue to opress black people for 40 more years!
Oh wait, you got that covered, thanks.
>>689435964
>>689435881
>pro gun in USA is just a vocal minority tbh
80 million gun owners. Get fucked
>>689435484
Yeah right, because in europe (where we have very strict gun laws) shit like this does not happen right? give me a break faggot.
>>689435902
tbh this is more about the racist justice system than self defence.
>>689436062
>80 million gun owners. Get fucked
Do you understand what a minority is?
OP what if I told you I killed a nigger and injured a second in an attempted home invasion at my home?
>>689436078
no, its because you can't hurt bad guys. use your rape alarm
>>689436129
half of all homes have them cuckface
>>689435484
Like in Paris, right? Dumbass.
You merit no argument, much easier to ignore your nasal whinging and rest secure in the knowledge that your opinion matters naught. Nobody gives a fuck about your ideals or your argument. Nothing is going to change, You will never be taken seriously about this, same as everything else in your life. Piss off.
>>689435817
Yep, England is basically an SJW haven these days. They even questioned me about my frigging Swiss Army knife.. Bloody thing only has a 1" blade. "Oh Anon! That toothpick could be a weapon.."
>>689435373
aaaaand he's choppin' up all the women's meat
>>689436284
You don't NEED a murder tool anon. Think of the children and faggots.
>>689436129
And I suppose every single American left after the 80 million are anti-gun. I'm sorry for you to hear it from me, but your opinions are not facts.
>>689432380
>>689435593
Tell that to the fucking stormfront retards that take our racism and hate seriously.
>>689435738
Finally, someone else agrees!
That's not what I meant, retard. Get the stormcucks out of here.
>>689435785
Hey, I have more funny pictures as well!
>>689430903
Suck my ass yuropoor
>>689435881
LOLOLOL. OK, that's why every attempt on the 2nd gets obliterated every. fucking. time.
You probably need to change the hamster powering your reality distortion field, that one seems to have died.
>>689436400
checked.
First part of any takeover is to disarm the public.
>>689434953
Thank You, Anon.
I really hope that, at some point in the near future, at least one state can begin having a rational debate on gun control, and can come to a point where we can be safe in every way possible, while still maintain right of ownership for firearms. with both sides defaulting to hardcore positions, however, Im not sure any of us will live to see a reasonable resolution.
I will acknowledge that Archery and BB's can be fun, but training with firearms is a different situation, I I think firearms rights should be maintained separately, though it should be licensed, and all points of possible sale should be regulated.
I must say I do believe that guns for self defense are effective, as I have friends that have used guns successfully in self defense - one by shear fear-factor of the gun, the other by actually firing it - and both continue to responsibly and actively maintain ownership of their firearms. it's really a point that you should consider, OP, and I think many of the statistics and anecdotes of legitimate self defense are obscured by willful politics.
furthermore, firearms are required to down many game in an ethical manner - using a bow and arrow could work, but if you've seen how an animal suffers after some unpracticed Rambo-dipshit tries to down it with an arrow, you would wish it had been shot instead. that's not to say it can;t be done, but most archers really are not skilled enough to do so.
>>689436624
>>689430903
Go fuck yourself is why.
>>689436527
Holy shit, and I thought England was batshit crazy.
Wonder if I could get this through customs.
>>689436990
nope. no locking blades
>>689436890
fuck off shill. nobody believes your democrat voting ass
>>689436922
Found one that might be a match for you!
>>689436890
at least one state?
Move to NY or CA you kike
>>689436624
>Finally, someone else agrees!
Exactly. The true vocal minority
>>689434207
seems about right
>>689435817
>>689435902
>>689436009
>>689436527
>tfw when you realize you're not a britbong cuck. Feels good man.
>>689436922
checked and lost.
>>689431811
No one needs to justify to anyone what they spend their money on
Fuck you
>>689430903
>>689437266
>>689437348
I'm buying three lowers tonight.
>>689432240
>The media is not reporting this because they don't want to scare everyone
>they don't want to scare everyone
How fucking stupid is this person?
>>689437440
right on brother
>>689431811
Because they're fun to shoot and useful for home defense, you faggot bitch
>>689437315
Nice, do you post on The_Donald as well? :D Fellow shitlord? :DDDDD Write "cuck" on reddit? :D
Fuck off stormfag. You have a containment board for a reason.
>>689433535
No one needs justification faggot
>>689437654
go away shillary and return to leddit
>>689433869
Don't cram the red pill down their throats, /b/ro. Let them go down the rabbit for themselves.
> I know it's tempting when you know these things, but these anons have to go through the steps to understand first.
>>689437805
>banning knives
>a basic human tool
kek
>>689430903
I'm not gonna read all the replies that tell you you're wrong or the replies that spout ignorance. I'll say this once. The police(through means of the sheriffs and Chiefs of police associations) have said they will not enforce any confiscation based gun control measures. The military will not follow any unconstitutional orders. In the event of the citizenry rebelling against the govt there would have to be some serious constitution based fuckery involved in the govts part. The military would be on the side of the citizens. Couple that with state, county, and local law enforcement and now we're talking. And we haven't even started on the millions of well trained, heavily armed private citizens who's sole "hobby" is to put hot lead down range and train more than any cop or soldier. Yeah bud. We need the 2nd amendment. And if need be we could utilize it very efficiently.
>>689437654
I can't believe you have the time to be on here. Shouldn't you be out phone banking for that loser bernie? He totally still has a chance
>>689430903
>tfw op would rather die hands up pleading for his life with his little pink chastised cock trembling in its cage than fight to the last breath with a gun in his hand
>>689437313
aktually, blades longer than 3" (the sharp bit) are illegal to carry in most states. Unless they are tools. We can have fixed blades where I live. Then again, I have a carry permit so the knife is just to peel my apple.
>Ban guns and throw away your knives to make America safer
>America and other countries stock pilling nukes
>>689437892
never give them an inch or this is how we will end up
>>689437313
>>689437080
good to see you lack to ability to read posts.
you probably can;t read ballots either.
to think either of you are allowed to vote (or will be, fucking summer in here) makes me sick.
>>689438037
>>689437805
Which one? The one you retards go on and spout 4chan inside me-me's and jerk each other off while imagining how Trumps cock might taste?
Weird, that place might actually seem like it would fit you better.
HHHHMMM
>>689436890
>Anonymous
You get it mate. Again, I would rather see a 2nd amendment advocate with sense, then one without a shred. I would even love to just see guns not get given out willy-nilly.
>>689438047
>blades longer than 3" (the sharp bit) are illegal to carry in most states
I'm gonna call bullshit on this. Some municipalities have blade length laws, but in terms of state laws, most states DON'T regulate blade lengths. Even california, anti-gun shithole, doesn't have a state law against long pocketknife blades.
>>689434673
I can and will you pompous liberal arts nigger. Your manufactured education makes you a pawn not a knight, faggot.
I know you think you're the rational one here (I don't blame you) but you base it off of limited knowledge and understanding of the topic.
And... This is /b/
>>689438129
what the fuck is going on with that grip?
>>689438162
Not falling for it bernie. "Reasonable gun owner" my ass. Don't you have campaign calls to make or since the burn dropped out now you're here?
You want shit laws, move to NY or Cali. Its the gun free utopia you dream of.
>>689438270
This fucking faggot is mad
>>689438301
its absolute bullshit. don't trust the shill with "his" 10rd glock
>>689438392
Its a "lever action" single shot cucked .22 LR that took decades to get a license for and is stored at the range.
You know, "reasonable" gun control.
>>689432442
Doesn't matter how much spread your shotgun has when the criminal has the drop on you, and here's a hint, the criminal's always got the drop.
>>689438392
>what the fuck is going on with that grip?
look at the rest of that awful thing
>>689437994
Shouldn't you be on reddit raging about muslims? Or not sure which minority to bash first after the Orlando massacre?
Suck my dick stormcuck, I hope the next Trump rallies turn even more violent. I want to see you fuckfaces in the mud where you belong.
>>689433333
Check'd
>>689438301
Thought that was the case. Always look that up before I travel.
This site agrees with your call
http://thefiringline.com/library/blades/knifelaws.html
>>689438623
>>689438623
funny guy just killed a home intruder yesterday in my town. tell me more sweet sweet lies shillary.
>>689432716
Holly shit! This needs to be on the top ten charts!!!
>>689431988
this
you want shit, you buy shit. if you drink alcohol, you can be proud of being "responsible" for more violence than any gun law every was.
libtard logic, never gets old.
>What do you NEED a gun for?
http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/10-potential-mass-shootings-that-were-stopped-by-someone-wit#.ew1w5ybKx
http://countercurrentnews.com/2015/07/no-cops-around-man-with-concealed-carry-permit-stops/
http://myfox8.com/2015/07/27/woman-saved-lives-by-shooting-possible-serial-killer-in-the-head-police-say/
http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/uncategorized/uber-driver-with-conceal-carry-permit-stops-mass-shooting-in-chicago
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/07/25/women-who-shot-alleged-attacker-may-have-slain-a-serial-killer-police-say/
https://www.gunowners.org/sk0802htm.htm
http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/24/12405148/
http://controversialtimes.com/issues/constitutional-rights/12-times-mass-shootings-were-stopped-by-good-guys-with-guns/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epZod2qyyN4
http://100percentfedup.com/watch-angry-school-shooter-is-stopped-by-brave-woman-with-gun-media-ignored-story/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Culwell_Center_attack
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/10/03/do-civilians-with-guns-ever-stop-mass-shootings/
http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/170254/how-assistant-principal-gun-stopped-school-shooter-daniel-greenfield
http://www.businessinsider.com/uber-driver-with-concealed-handgun-prevents-mass-shooting-in-chicago-2015-4
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parker_Middle_School_dance_shooting
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appalachian_School_of_Law_shooting
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Colorado_YWAM_and_New_Life_shootings
http://www.foxcarolina.com/story/17251517/churchgoers-subdue-gunman-at-spartanburg-church
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clackamas_Town_Center_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_High_School_shooting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolley_Square_shooting
http://www.phillyvoice.com/armed-65-year-old-shoots-two-younger-men-during-incident-queen-village/
>>689433333
33333
Hrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrg!
>>689438669
>I hope the next Trump rallies turn even more violent
They will, because you progressive shitbags only know hate and violence. I can't wait until the police start breaking heads so we have more shit to laugh about here
>>689438963
>libtard
>logic
>>689439037
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/sheriff-says-slain-intruder-was-escaped-murder-suspect/ar-AAgCil4?li=BBnbfcL
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/concealed-weapon-owner-shoots-hatchet-wielding-attacker-in-wash-7-eleven/ar-AAgKfJI?li=BBnbfcL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auhgbxEc6yg
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/05/daniel-zimmerman/defensive-gun-use-of-the-day-utah-concealed-carrier-stops-crime-spree/
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865627863/Pleasant-Grove-homeowner-shoot-kills-man-in-home-invasion-police-say.html?pg=all
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/south-carolina-boy-13-fatally-shoots-burglar-wounds-second-suspect-n462006
http://www.wdsu.com/news/local-news/new-orleans/gunman-arrested-after-one-person-shot-at-mandeville-gas-station-mpd-says/38855596
>>689430903
>In my country, we solve our problems with intellect
>Intellect
>Come on. Really? In the middle of the night, half asleep...you're going to take out a robber?
Well, it certainly does better than a knife, and I'm not about to get on my knees, beg him not to kill me, and let him take all my shit
if this is bait good job you made me reply, if not bait then if i didnt keep a 9 mil in my nightstand my wife and i would be dead and my child would be missing and likley dead after being raped
>>689437986
Are you for real??
Look at the Boston Bomber. How friendly was your local law enforcement then?
They will follow orders. It has been BEATEN into them to follow orders. Who gives the orders? Well, you know who.
>>689433734
Everyone should own a brain with some common sense but that doesn't seem present with the american populus now does it
>>689438963
This. Libtards will champion whatever John Oliver tells them to and it shouldn't be news to you.
Kill muricans or sandniggers no different, it's all pretty funny for the rest of the world. Eventually we just tune out and don't even care. Murica has already declined as a power...
Bought 4 new stripped lowers today!!!
>>689439380
big dif between hunting down some mudslime and kicking in their own families doors, i'm not the biggest fan of cops either but they will be the first to draw the line.
>>689439475
>tune out
yet you shitpost incessantly about the US? infatuated much?
>>689439601
Anderson?
>>689433106
>guy shoots up gayw, because they are gay, due to being from islamic/middle eastern culture
>focuses on gun laws
trump is actually needed at this point
>>689437986
So much this.
>>689439475
What country are you from and I'll tell you how much aid we sent you
>>689434276
it isn't still used because it is good, but because americucks are too scared to change it. The founding fathers weren't omniscient, it is entirely possible that their legislature isn't coherent with the current culture (which it definitely fucking isn't you fucking gay faggot retard)
>>689438320
>this is /b/
By golly, you got that right. How long did it take you to figure that out?!
Listen, stormcuck shitstain: /b/ is for random! /pol/ is for racist nutjobs!
Did that make it clear? Does everyone has to explain things to you like you are 10?
Now fuck off cuck.
>>689438557
Triggered?
>>689439091
You know the great thing about your 2nd amendment rights? They apply to liberals too.
Man, it would be such a tragic event if someone would decide to shoot some 40 - 50 people on a Trump rally. wouldn't it?
Have that in your mind the next time you attend one.
>>689439037
Whoah, hold on there, pal. Those statistics can't stand up to my ideology!
>>689439619
>>689439475
Yet we're still it. We still say what goes. You can bitch all you want but at the end of the day, we set the standard. Even your faggot John Oliver has to come here to spout his bullshit and be heard. Have fun letting the brown guy rape your girlfriend while you smile at the cctv cameras so as not to seem raycis and don't post your plastic butter knife to Facebook or it's the gulag.
>>689430903
>No government has ever become tyrannical in human history, especially not in the last 100 years...
You're not very clever, but this is bait, so maybe you ARE super clever. You do have a lot of responses.
>>689440001
>>689439879
Hopefully the aid we deliver is normally in the form of tomahawk missiles.
>>689439925
Boy you libs sure are violent. What if I told you unlike you, we don't base decisions off emotions like a woman. Enjoy your period fag, hope your rape whistle protects you.
These shit posts are worse than the furry / cuck / homo cancer that I see while lurking. Show some more ameritards getting shot or blown up in towers. REKD ameritard version?
>>689440268
edgy
>>689430903
>Defense against individual threats
Protect yourself and your family from Murderers, Burglars, Rapists, and on rare occasion, wildlife. Does it happen often? No. Does it happen? Yes.
>Defense against larger threats.
Had there been a good man with a gun in Pulse in Orlando, the death toll would not be 50, it would be 5.
>Defense against international threats.
When the bombs drop and the boots stomp on American soil; When the enemies of democracy trample on our sovereign land; When our military is fractured and failing; When help is hours away, but the barrel of the invader's rifle is pointed at your family now...
Then you'll wish you'd supported the second amendment. Then you'll want a gun.
>>689440372
You. I like you
>>689435499
>>689435545
The dutch resistance was shit, stop reading from your nationalistic textbooks. They were peanuts compared to any other restance force in warfare. Their only skill was jew hiding.
Ik meen het, het stelde geen kut voor
>>689432442
>Shotguns have a wide spread, esp with open choke. So yes.
I wish that were true but my open choke 18" barrel shotgun only spreads out about 3 inches from 25 feet, a typical home defense distance (or less in reality).
>>689430903
To kill faggots like you. Not because you're gay but because you're such an annoying cunt. I'm not just gonna hand over my natural born rights and cuck myself to the government because a incredibly small minority abuses those right. If you actually bothered talking to the average gun owner you would find they are open to mental heath checks and such.
At least we aren't cucking ourselves to a bunch of sand nigger migrants.
>>689439681
>they will be the first to draw the line.
liberals convincing everyone that the ESTABLISHMENT POLICE FORCE are KILLERS everyone!
turns out, the government is responsible for more good than you imagine, posting form your IPhone with a Hilfiger case.
>>689432594
>Sure are eating a lot of things that aren't water, bread, and meal worms. Would be a shame if something were to happen to you.
Seriously, though, people may mock the slippery slope argument but it is a good indication of progression.
>>689439925
>/pol/ is for racist nutjobs!
>says cuck
You'd fit on /pol
>Man, it would be such a tragic event if someone would decide to shoot some 40 - 50 people on a Trump rally.
>Yes, and Trump would be the one inciting this violence. The killers should take no responsibility. Liberals are just peacefully protesting hateful speech, right guys? trump supporters are the evil ones, not us. We're the good guys
>>689440372
>enemies of democracy
>america has only 2 parties
Well?
>>689434324
>have a chance
Yeah, dumbass. In what way are you not better off armed if someone breaks into your home?
>>689439925
>You know the great thing about your 2nd amendment rights? They apply to liberals too.
We know they do. You scumbags are the reason we have all these mass shootings including the one in Orlando.
>>689430903
How do you think it would have gone down in the club if everyone inside was armed?
Everyone dancin', gettin' all gay up on each other, man whips out an AR and starts yellin' about Aloha Snackbars, gets off a few rounds. Let's say he hits 10 people before everyone wises up to what's happening. Everyone whips their shit out and mercs the guy. I would call that damage mitigation. Instead 50 people are dead and ~50 are in various states of injury.
Go team gun laws, though, right?
>>689439925
>Man, it would be such a tragic event if someone would decide to shoot some 40 - 50 people on a Trump rally. wouldn't it?
>implying lib rallies are any better
wow.
>>689433106
The night club was a gun free zone.
Also, a bunch of gay latinos in Florida are most likely to lean left and not arm themselves.
>>689440372
>When the bombs drop and the boots stomp on American soil; When the enemies of democracy trample on our sovereign land; When our military is fractured and failing; When help is hours away, but the barrel of the invader's rifle is pointed at your family now...
?!?! The largest and greatest force the planet has ever seen? Fuck, did you know that the US marines have more manpower (and firepower) than the whole british army?
An armed force that's been fighting for 25 years straight (Starting 1990 in Iraq).
So, do you mean an alien invasion? cos sure as hell, no one is putting boots on US soil.
>>689440199
>The American Revolution
>>689430903
so faggots like you to complain about.
>>689441043
Not necessarily
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Pistols
>>689440372
OP Here.
I actually don't disagree with the concept of self defense. Only that the chance of being able to ward off an intruder at night is slim, and what if it is mistaken identity?
I appreciate your intentions to protect your family however I think the reality is sadly different.
>>689440868
>>689441125
Happened before the 2nd amendment retard
>>689440726
Time for words is over. Better to kill you stormcucks than trying to reason with someone who is braindead.
>>689440807
Oh, I'm not defending our politics in the least. Every politician and political candidate I can recall is either an idiot, or else has been bought and sold by those in greater power.
At this point, our elections might even be a total sham. But at the very least, they don't have guns to our heads yet.
No, I'm talking about China or Russia deciding they're tired of our shit and putting boots on the ground.
>>689430903
Obvious troll is obvious. The government was recently pushed back in Nevada. No one was "squished".
If you think the government would own armed rebels, you are a moron.
>>689441313
>ward off an intruder at night is slim
>Small chance, therefore i'll take your guns away so you have no chance at all
Genius. 10/10
>>689441313
Who says they'll only attack at night?
Who says there'll only be one?
Who says all your rounds will hit the target in a stressful situation?
Who says you'll have to fire the gun at all?
I'm up for another crusade. I would give my lazy life to rid the world of this scum. I would gladly shed blood beside Christians in a common goal.
>>689440199
OP here, this is brilliant. Actually perfectly sums up how I feel.
>How retarded can you get? Your hick lard ass will literally get squished like a jelly donut by tanks and bombed into nothingness from the sky. If they want to go Hitler on you, they will, trust me.
The point is that we would never get to that point with an armed populace. Dumb point.
Murica, fuck yeah going get bombed shot and planes into buildings. So hilarious. The other funny part is the reach of lobbiest into Government and the Vanilla flavoured choice for Government that really is no choice? Enjoy that cuck
>>689432240
You do realise that fear is exactly what they want right?
>>689441545
>gun owners are more likely to use their gun against themselves than an intruder
Shit, who makes these statistics supported by facts? Damn liberals I say!
>>689441313
People have and will continue to shoot their family mistaking them for an intruder. Should the whole country open itself up to the entire bill of rights being stripped because of that? Hell no. That falls directly on the person making that huge of a fuck up. No one else
>>689441454
>stormcucks
How many times are you going to spout the same stupid bullshit in one thread? You crybabies are like a broken fucking record.
American here. Guns should be regulated more but not taken away.
>>689430903
I dont expect a fire, but i keep a fire extinguisher around. I dont own a gun, but i believe i should have the right to own one if i so chosw to. So fuck you buddy
Blame it on the NRA all you want pinheads. You will NEVER get our guns. Ever.
Oh how I'll chuckle when your come uppance arrives.
So fucking sweet.
>>689440868
BTFO
>>689431811
just read some infowars articles and try to believe that shit. after a while you'll become anxious, start watching survival videos on youtube and buying more guns.
Many people can think critically. But there are ~50% of oppulation with IQ unter 100
So this explains it a bit.
>>689441292
I'm aware of gay gun rights groups- but let's be honest, one of the least likely places you'll find someone CCing is a gay nightclub.
>>689441663
They don't even need guns to take us over though. They have machines called Long Range Aduio Devices, that can subdue large crowds of people with just sound. Our guns are just objects to console us. They only protect us from each other, if they wanted to quash us, they wouldn't have to try hard. I'm not the guy you replied to by the way. Just another anon.
>>689441906
Regulated how?
>>689430903
Shots fired
>>689430903
If we could solve it with fists you would have been beaten to death for being such a stupid fuck
>>689441840
>>gun owners are more likely to use their gun against themselves than an intruder
>Some people are depressed and commit suicide. Therefore, I'm going to take away your right to self defense in your stable life.
An extreme amount of gun related homicides is just black on black violence, and a portion of those weapons are illegally obtained
Who comes up with these stats? Damn stupid republicans
>>689442213
>But there are ~50% of oppulation with IQ unter 100
They're called liberal progressives. We already know who they are.
>>689441056
No, I mean a human fighting force.
We may be the biggest, but that doesn't mean we're the best. I don't know how long it would take for an effective retaliation, but if they manage to knock out any Early Warning systems we have in place, I can guarantee you the response will not be instant. It'll take time before an appropriately-sized and effective military response is enacted. Frankly, if our invaders are any level of intelligent, they'll be expecting such a response and will be ready for it.
The states in the center of the nation may be insulated, but any border state is at some level of risk. If Mexico and Russia come to some secret deal and surge northward through Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas, then I'm gonna have commies on my doorstep real freakin' quick.
Essentially, what I'm arguing FOR is a passive militia. We don't need to win such a war, the proper Military can do that. What we DO need is to hold back an advance and protect our families until the (armored) Cavalry arrives.
>>689441750
>>689439037
If there where no guns to BEGIN with, these heroic acts would not be required.
That's my point. The 2nd amendment is outdated and dumb.
>>689441853
>Ben Garrison is a libertarian political cartoon artist known for creating illustrations about United States political corruption and various conspiracy theories, who has been the subject of a troll campaign by users of 4chan’s /pol/ (politics) board who have attempted to frame him as a Nazi sympathizer.
Fuck off stormcuck. Go suck some more Trump cock you pathetic little bitch.
>>689436644
I like how they show axes, chains, and machetes, all legitimate tools with a lawful, non-violent purpose, as weapons.
What a bunch of pussies
>>689442419
>>689442623
Impossibility.
>>689442632
>Go suck some more Trump cock
You don't have to be so mean just because your socialist piece of shit is yesterday's news
>>689442623
That's a non argument pipe dream, try again
If someone has a knife, a club, an ax or a machete, I'd still want a gun
>>689430903
Why you need one is irrelevant. My ancestors fought and died for that right. I will uphold that legacy. A better question is when did you discover that you were a faggot?
>>689442213
Anxious? LOL. I want to get a few more AR's so I can put them in some of those cool pop-out wall panels. Shit is pimp, yo.
P.S., everybody in my neighborhood knows I'm the skinhead with the arsenal, and I'm the guy that had to go running across the street to my neighbor's house with some of my guns when his wife was getting robbed.
The porch monkey who was robbing her? He is in jail now (No, I didn't shoot him: there was no need, as his choices were clearly "give up right now, or eat double aught buckshot". Guess what he chose?)
Also, guess whose house never gets broken into? Guess whose shit never goes missing from his yard? My shit, bro. It stays mine.
>>689442623
>If there where no guns to BEGIN with
You do know lots of guns are illegally obtained, right? Sure you do
>>689442995
That guy made a mistake holding the gun that close to the bad guy. But that was still awesome.
So let me rationalise this, a US citizen buys a gun and shoots 50 people? Then you say I should have a gun so this can't happen to me? I don't really see the argument, it's fucking retarded.
>>689442990
Enough words. Be a proud american and go to the Trump rallies. Hopefully they'll keep those liberals in check.
Oh shit, but what if someone dresses like a Trump supporter and is suddenly directly in your midst? Could get ugly, huehuehue.
Can't wait till it turns violent again.
>>689443421
>So let me rationalise this, a US citizen buys a car and hits 50 people? Then you say I should have a car so this can't happen to me?
>>689443421
Bad guy legally buys a gun after passing a background check, kills people with it
Then they take away or make it so that you can't buy a gun to defend yourself, thinking that will stop a criminal from doing it again
I don't really see the sense in that
>>689442623
So we can just get rid of guns like making drugs illegal got rid of drugs right?
Here is a video of illiterate cavemen in Pakistan making guns. Just to give you a sense of how fucking easy it is to make guns. It can be done with tools many hobbyists have in their garage. All it takes is the most basic metal working tools.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRte65F_KRk
>>689430903
Imagine genocide in a country where most of the citizens are armed.
There was lots of stories where it saved a life(a particular life).
>>689443631
>Enough words.
>>689443660
Sure when was the last time 50 people got run down noob? This isn't GTA V
>>689443421
>I should have a gun so this can't happen to me?
You need a gun so you don't get shot and killed by an ISIS sympathiser in a gay nightclub? Not exactly, we're saying you should have the right to own a gun for self-defense to protect yourself and your family in any capacity i.e a robber breaking in to your home. The right to protect yourself is a right that can't be taken away
>>689443862
>le reaction image
>>689443421
>US citizen
I think you mean a radical muslim whose father hosts a TV show marketed to other afgahans where he praises the Taliban. Since the shooting the father has publicly stated that Allah will punish all homosexuals. What a nice guy.
Yeah, he was just a "citizen". We need to stop profiling muslims and look at the real problem, gun owning white males. Picture related. Just look at the violence caused by whites.
>>689441021
Yeah you lot keep using that as an excuse for having guns. I believe the gun laws in Floroda are quite lax. Tell me why people weren't armed and took out the shooters? This excuse does not hold any weight.
>>689443421
The problem is we do not want a government or anyone else assessing what we do and do not need. Let the market decide.
>capitalism bitch, that's why
>>689443631
Um, you do realize that Trump rallies tend to be populated by pro gun folks, right?
...Do you really think anyone is going to be stupid enough to give a large crowd of well-armed, probably gun-range-savvy rednecks... an excuse to be the hero, and target practice besides?
Nigger, please. Dude would be like, <fumbles gun out of coat> "Allahu-!" (followed by the sound of thousands of bullets ripping through his towelhead corpse...)
>>689443980
How about a truck?
>>689438047
couldn't make out the model Glock you have
Well the point of the second amendment is to not disarm the people, the fore fathers wrote this in to protect the people, I don't believe we should ever have our right taken away, if we can't arm ourselves we are hopeless, the government could just enslave as all and turn everything into the apocalypse, the second amendment was made to prevent this.
>>689444103
>Tell me why people weren't armed and took out the shooters?
A bunch of half naked drunken fags aren't people known for carrying guns
Think just a little bit
Selling guns is a fucking business. It balances budget, leave it alone.
>>689443991
Sure that really worked out well for all those people then.
>>689430903
OP HERE
Just want to say thanks for everyone's input. I'm not here to war with anyone, especially because I'm the yurocuck with no gun weh weh weh.
Was interesting reading the various points. My conclusion, I think at the very least, there needs to be more sensible laws to allow good people to own guns. Sadly, I think today bears out the fact that just doesn't happen.
The number one reason I always hear "Government tyranny", is still bullshit to me and I have read not convincing arguments on that front. Maybe I will eventually.
First ever thread to go past 2 replies on /b/ so I feel mildly proud/horrified.
Cheers
>>689443631
>Can't wait till it turns violent again.
We know. It's why we're armed. You progressive mass murderers scare us newfriend.
>>689438037
>>689439303
we have something in common my friend
>>689444005
>on an image board
you really are retarded
>>689444334
>there needs to be more sensible laws to allow good people to own guns
Like what? Specifiacally
Keeping in mind the Orlando dude passed a criminal background check
>>689444248
Not him but I think it's a 23
>>689430903
This poor fucker got sent to /b/. Not making enough money to come here. Some day he'll be promoted to /pol/.
>>689444314
>Sure that really worked out well for all those people then.
>not getting my point
Ish okay. Reading is hard
>>689444117
You paint a picture.
>>689444577
>>689444114
Free markets manipulated by Governments. So stupid little kids, so stupid and naive.
>>689444494
>passed a criminal background check
Despite being questioned twice by the FBI for being a radical muslim.
Leftists make it a career ending offense to profile a radical muslim, then act like the laws failed us because he got a gun.
>>689444355
/thread
> why must i have 2nd amendment? is useless!
>your countries women proceed to get molested by refugees
that's why
>>689444818
>Despite being questioned twice by the FBI for being a radical muslim
They had to drop the investigations because of lack of evidence
>>689444117
>(followed by the sound of thousands of bullets ripping through his towelhead corpse...)
I think you played a bit too many video games anon. And you really think someone is able to stop this? It didn't work in a gay nightclub, it didn't work in a movie theatre and it will not work inside a Trump rally.
Mark my words you piece of shit, the next mass shooting WILL be a Trump rally. And I hope to god it will send as many of you cucks into hell as possible.
>>689430903
I have an AR-10
It's the same as that one in your pic, but it's WAY more powerful.
Deal with it.
>>689444897
>>689444486
Stop cucking around stormcuck.
>>689444181
So there was a bomb, and that relates to your little story how? Inset cuck meme
>>689444924
>And you really think someone is able to stop this?
A cop with a gun did.
>>689444577
Well, I did get sent here actually. We get like a small cash payout for every "effective" post. Hearts and minds, you know the drill. We're supposed to keep putting these threads up, keep the banter going, and change some people's minds but also data mine them for effective arguments, posts that will make for good shock material for ads, etc. Frankly it's getting a little tiresome, but at least the pay is crappy. Luckily there's a new campaign coming up next week, so I can finally quit rehashing this cruft.
if some guy breaks into your house when you arnt half asleep and he has a gun you are atleast even level with him now
>>689445205
He used a vehicle filled with fertilizer and gasoline to kill hundreds
A year or two ago a woman in Las Vegas ran down and killed several people and injured dozens with her car
>>689444897
Yeah, better to destroy a right wing fascist government and then opress black people for another 40 years!
Wait a minute.
