I love how the NRA gets attacked for defending our infrangible right to bear arms. The left seems to be driving there Ignorant agenda through the media more and more. Disgusting
>>689415171
the 2nd amendment was made when ya'll had muskets
and thats what you should be allowed
The NRA are a bunch of fuckheads who only care about what's profitable for manufacturers but their purpose is mostly to be a target for these kind of things.
>>689415430
fuck off, non american
"Let's ignore the fact that this man was employed by Dept. of Homeland Security and has special licenses to use automatic weapons. What if someone decides to use a old ruger to shoot up a Synagogue? We need to protect our interests. Clearly we need to ban weapon purchases for normal citizens. Wow, it's awesome how much we control the world. This plan will surely work."
Dumbass Jew Press
>>689415430
The founding fathers were not ignorant. They knew guns would evolve. In fact, early versions of what we call Gatlin guns were being built then.
2nd amendment was made so any invading force who tried to occupy the u.s. Would get fucked in the ass by the many militias that would instantly form due to everyone being allowed to have muskets, forceing an occupying force to fight house to house street by street. Not for some faggots to own semi automatic weapons with high capacity magazines and pretend it's there for "home defense" or "standing my ground".
>>689416087
When the hell did they ever mention guns?
>>689415171
I think each side uses their own reasons for the massacre (right-- Islamic extremism, left-- firearms) to deny the opposition's claim of the cause. The obvious truth is that both are responsible, but neither side wants to admit they're wrong. Democracy is great.
>>689415171
When guns are outlawed, only Islamists will have guns.
>>689416258
Of course, this was assuming that corporations wouldn't have already cucked the entire working population and they'd still have a reason to protect their land.
Let the rich defend the nation with their toys and sheeple. I certainly don't see how it's my problem or how any of our multitude of defense agencies are doing it at all. DHS is clearly just another excuse to collect more taxes and doesn't affect anything but airport travel time.
You amerifags are so fucking retarded. You do not need , in any capacity, assault weapons in your homes or for purchase from the public. There is no fucking need. They are weapons for war, and battle not for fucking home defense and personal defence. Your country is so archaic and clueless you will not permit change to save any lives, in terms of gun law the U.S.A. is a western embarrassment.
>>689415430
this
>>689417073
This is our debate, GTFO
>>689417377
Idiot, the American publics refusal to change especially with Trump as a political figure will fuck the earth for good, pat yourself on the back for being a member of the society that will contribute significantly to the downfall of Man. At least you'll all have semi autos in your hands though, right ?
Some one give me the definition of an assault weapon because I'm telling you right now I could fuck more shit up with an m1 garand than an Ar15 and the garand looks less scary.
>>689417073
And? The AR-15 is semiauto, not full auto capable.
Black powder guns were also used in war for longer than the AR-15. Really don't give a damn about how Europeans sees us, really, it ain't grade school anymore.
>>689417377
Idiot, the American publics refusal to change especially with Trump as a political figure will fuck the earth for good, pat yourself on the back for being a member of the society that will contribute significantly to the downfall of Man. At least you'll all have semi autos in your hands though, right?
>>689417779
>At least you'll all have semi autos in your hands though, right?
Damn right
>>689417779
The earth has been fucked for years, you'd better get right with God or you're doomed.
>>689415430
>>689417227
good call, also no free speech for cell phones, the internet and the like. Also no digital newspapers because they weren't around then.
You can't just ban guns even if everyone wanted to. There's too many of them. That shit only works in small countries
>>689417779
Yet all world wars started in Europe. You bastards practically turns genocide into a science, so STFU.
>>689417908
months ago got a tip to invest in ak 47`s they made a deal with U.S.A you could google it
was supossed to be a secret but I don`t have money to invest so I give it to you everybody.
>>689417901
That's what these anti gun peeps never get.
>>689417073
No, I don't need one but I do have two.
The second amendement giving the right to state militias to arm themselves.
You know... during the seventeenth century when Indians, the red-coats and the Spaniards were still a thing.
That gun control really worked in Paris and Belgium....
>>689418298
That's what I mean, it's too big of an issue now, too ingrained in Anerican society. Shits fucked, and it won't change, Americans are too stupid to see that 'actively doing nothing is a decision too' -Obama
>>689417377
I do enjoy it when you Amerifats die. Please don't ever change your gun laws
>>689418659
They deserved to die. Faggots.
>>689418435
Kalashnikov Concern has a factory in the US already. I don't think that there's a reason for what you just said. Besides that, I build my own ARs and already have enough AKs.
Well, only 6 AKs right now.
>>689418693
>shall not be infringed
or better yet, those militias stand up to the tyranny of their own government
>>689418243
>good call, also no free speech for cell phones, the internet and the like. Also no digital newspapers because they weren't around then.
Exactly, digital papers aren't printed in a press. So there is no violation of freedom of the "press".....
>>689418693
>Implying mexicans, niggers, and terrorists aren't still a thing.
>>689418693
My favorite part of the second amendment was ", until the Indians, red-coats and Spaniards are gone"
>>689418243
except there is an amendment for that already
>google freedom of speech
>>689418864
We get that you hate gays.
>>689419021
even if b8- neither "press" nor "arms" refer to a singular object
>>689417073
Ever owned a gun? They're fun as fuck. Ever lived in America? You need guns cuz everyone has guns!
>>689419143
but if you are restricting the 2A to what was around in the 1700s, why not the 1A? Or all of them?
>>689419143
Right to bear arms is also an amendment.
>>689418727
You're an idiot, stop worrying about other people's problems as if you have none.
>>689415430
Kill yourself.
>>689415171
Valiant effort OP, but you're still a faggot.
>>689415171
This?
>>689417779
Since I'm assuming you're a Eurofag, is your mother still getting raped by Achmed?
>>689415430
Top kek
>>689419300
because the 2A was made when guns were around
you're now gonna tell me the internet and cellphones were around when they wrote the 2A
>>689419390
Why don't y'all stick it up your ass?
>>689416258
Don't forget, the founding fathers also knew that corruption is human nature and allowed for certain failsafe to fight against it.
>>689415171
>normal to sell ARs for defence
being this fucking retarded, why can't you JUST authorize handguns? aren't they enough to defend yourself? you don't have to shoot up the whole school to defend yourself, just the teachers?
> infrangible
lol
>>689419619
Because I can't fit anything else up there.
>>689419124
Mine's the part where it specifies hunting as the only acceptable shooting activity and limits weapons to non-military grade.
Good thing the military never had shotguns, bolt action rifles, and single action revolvers.
>>689415430
fuck off. does it say muskets? nope because thats not the point.
>>689419597
not sure you were following the thread exactly.
The point is the freedoms protected by the bill of rights were not just restricted to what was there at the time
>>689417073
>>689415430
We'all are allowed to have muskets, or just about any other weapon you'd want to have. I don't own any weapons right now, but it's nice to know I can get whatever I want later.
>>689415171
I'm not a libtard and I actually do own a G18, but that was written in the 1700s, when Indians were a security threat.
>>689417073
fuck off. european here. their country their laws. and there are many uses for private weapons first off all recreational uses.
>>689418868
not as much as you faggot
>>689419784
At least reply to his post.
SECONDS AMENDMENT
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
>mfw even if they outlaw them, I will still own them
>>689418722
STFU about Belgium you retarded pieces of shit!
NO GUNS WERE USED IN BRUSSELS.
I don't know where you faggots keep getting this, the sandniggers used bombs.
>>689419771
Keep trying OP. Soon you'll be able to fit a dozen dicks in your ass and mouth simultaneously. Just like your Euro trash mom when the jihad bros are passing her around.
privilege to bear arms. not a right
>>689415171
>>689417073
Why are police forces allowed to use assualt rifies?
Why do the police need to send 20 cops with assult rifles to a citizens public house over a loud music report?
Why are PMC's allowed to have assualt rifles?
Why are goverment agencies allowed to use any weapon they want on its citizens?
Why should the citizens NOT be allowed to protect them selves from the goverment?
>>689420402
That's right, keep your fringes off my guns.
>>689420280
>Indians
They're Native Americans and you're a racist piece of garbage.
>>689419771
Because JUST handguns gets boring after a while. I need a bigger bang, also stop talking this defence bullshit. I own an AK for sports!
I think those amerifags should be allowed to buy guns whenever. They're killing themselves off
>>689420522
When bombs are illegal, only illegals will have bombs.
>>689420706
I gotta admit anon, I chuckled a bit.
>>689420669
>Why should the citizens NOT be allowed to protect them selves from the goverment?
Get into gunfight with police.
Let us know how that turns out.
>>689420779
Shut up faggot
>>689420943
So are you saying I should buy a bomb? But I don't want to an hero...
>>689419771
Why can't you JUST stop being so nosy and controlling and authorize other people to live differently than you? Or are you just that intolerant?
>>689420132
nnnno i was following along just fine those amendments were put in place to restrict readily existing things as new things came by (eg. internet) new laws have been made (eg. dmca) governing them however when it comes to guns the law cannot evolve because the second it is suggested that MABY you dont actually need a high power rifle to defend your precious home from...spiders i guess...a good chunk of the population stands up and cries all at once "BUT MUH SECOND AMERRNDMEERRNT"
which is funny really ya'll make out as if the constitution is this perfect infallible guide to life in the US and the world around you will collapse if you change it even for a second...except that's exactly what an amendment is...in fact you've changed the fucker 27 times in 300 years
>>689421100
Are you illegal?
Any vids or pics from inside the club yet?
>>689421061
Apparently homophobic too. Which begs the question: why so much rage when only homosexuals were targeted and killed?
>>689421060
So when they come to my house illegally, the bust down my door,illegally. And threaten my life?
Yeah,stand your ground clearly applies.
No warrent, no conversation.
But mah guns...I need mah guns
>>689420402
That amendment would have been so much cooler with a little error. How different history would have been if it read "The right of the people to keep and arm bears shall not be infringed."
Armed bears. FUCK YEAH.
>>689419228
It's sarcasm not bait.
>>689417073
The pretentious eurotrash on this board kills me.
>>689415171
NRA does a fuckton more than "defend our right", noob. It's a fucking for-profit mouth-iece for the industry, and it's the biggest supporter of government corruption. It's a tuckibg racket and you idiots are pawns. No gun owner worth his brain supprts that utter shitshow of an organization.
>>689418338
The US is one of the youngest nations of the world, yet it has been in, and also started, the most wars. Come again bitch?
>>689421304
No, but it seems unfair if they're the only ones to have bombs..
>>689421185
actually only 17 times, and a few of those have been procedural things (succession, compensation, etc)
the constitution > federal statutes. The point of the constitution is to limit the power of government. It is designed to be hard to change. Look at California- their constitution has been amended over 500 times, and the state is falling apart
>>689421532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpeUznIhgLU
>>689421350
There is a snapchat from some girl who died. But all you basically hear are some gunshots while she looks oblivious and is still partying.
Fuck 'em. SCOTUS ruled that women have the right to an abortion under the 4th amendment, but that hasn't stopped republicans from working to dismantle that right across a number of states--it's bullshit. If people have to jump through hoops to access a perfectly legal and constitutionally protected medical procedure, the same should be done for access to perfectly legal and constitutionally protected firearms.
>>689420556
was not op, good try faggot and my mom'll be fine
>>689421350
Nothing good, fags doing faggotry and the vid cutting out when the shooting starts.
>>689421185
Better than other constitutions written by all others so far.
U.S. Constitution recognized rights as ingrained not granted or given. The Constitution merely recognized and guarantee those rights.
>>689420669
Are you fucking stupid?
The answer to that is obvious: Of course the police shouldn't be allowed either to march in your home with a tank and 20 guys carrying assault weapons.
Why would the answer be to arm youself heavier than the police?
This is such typical American logic.
Instead of de-escalating the situation, your asnwer is to escalate it even further.
Next time the police is gonna need rocket launchers to out-gun you and you'll say 'Well I get rocket launchers then also'
>>689421715
>youngest nation
except for all of Africa, most of Europe, all of the Americas...
>>689420862
>gets boring
yeah like you shoot your gun every day... just like I said, retarded
>>689421185
The constitution is a living and breathing document you open mouth breathing moron. Therefore it can be amended if certain requirements are met. That is a feature, not an example of American indecision or ignorance.
I understand that you're incapable of imagining that there are valid opinions other than your own and that you can't accept that people might choose to live differently than you, but perhaps you should consider killing yourself instead of bringing so much cancer to /b/...
>>689421818
SCOTUS ruled that states could reasonably restrict the process if it doesnt create an undue burden, not that it was blanket legal
>>689417901
Underrated post.
For lels, ask someone arguing for a ban to give you the legal definition of an "assault weapon" and how it differs from the common definition of "assault rifle"
>>689421824
Trust me. Your mommy loves it.
>>689421132
>so nosy and controlling and authorize other people to live differently than you?
I don't own a gun, you already live differently and I respect that but giving ARs legally to suspected terrorists is just fucking retarded, think about it
>>689415171
>LEGALLY
>KILLING MACHINE
Planned Parenthood.
>>689421406
LOL! Cops bust down your door? You're fucked.
You better have your own army, pal. We'll see your widow on the eight o'clock news.
>>689422033
I don't care about what my mom loves or doesn't, what I know is your law is retarded
>>689416258
Missing the point.
The 2nd amendment was placed into the constitution because the founding fathers saw the necessity of overthrowing government, and knew we would need guns to do so when the time came.
Dear Amerifag,
I lived in Switzerland, Israel and now France, all country in the top 10 of gun par capita.
Why are you the only country to allow the free trade of guns without any form of control ?
And what is the problem with your self defense, stand you ground, fight the government mindset ?
Seriously you are more paranoid than Israeli in a state of constant war, surrounded by enemies and fucked up by two years of millitrary services.
Why the hell do you allow, untrained redneck to freely resell arms to other idiots ?
>>689421715
And what was the civilized European's excuse again?
You lot fucked up whole continents and class of people. More brown and yellow died from European interventions than us.
>>689415430
They allowed the same weapons that the military used.
>>689421818
Good point, anon.
>>689422021
Never gonna happen. Unless you'll accept "scary looking" or some variation of that as an answer. So we're left with an amazing amount of faggotree from liberals with nothing better to do.
>>689421873
>heavier then the police
Police have assult rifles in their car incase things elevate.They also have a shotgun the front of the cruiser.
>escalate it further
Because we arent getting ass raped like all your eurfags are by your government?
If you come to my house and have an assult rifle, im going to have mine out aswell
Dont came to my door with an assult rifle or pistal drown.
Come to my house with a warrent,and ill call my lawyer while you wait outside waiting for my laywer to send a represenative of the firm.
>your logic
So the us has nukes, why dont we just send nukes around the world?
>>689416087
They didn't, however, count on the slaves getting their hands on those very sane guns.
And you'd never claim they werent stupid if you evercread their writings. Most of them were dumb as hell, and their ignorance what what the others worked so hard to figure out how to keep from ending up... like it ended up anyway, with the ignorant populists and militant religious zealous ascending to power threatening to turn civilization back to pre-enlightenment hell. Enjoy, faggots.
>>689421899
You are a fucking nazi. Why can't people have fun on the range?
And I shoot it once or twice a week, I do have a life you fag.
>>689421908
>Therefore it can be amended if certain requirements are met
the requirements have been met
>>689422121
This.
Thanks Ford.
Because of you 100's of people die everyday because they have access to 2 ton killing machines
>>689421873
The state and its agent needs to fear the citizen. The reverse of that creates tyranny or Europe.
>>689422206
there are tons of controls. Federal and state.
>inb4 gunshow loophole myth
>>689418864
What country are you from?
>>689422017
True, but the burden that many states have placed on access to the procedure is completely unreasonable. I live in walking distance of about three gun shops, but it would take days off work if me and the gf wanted to flush out a potential bastard, which I find completely absurd. If states placed the same burden on gun access, the NRA would put the politicians out of business. Guns are a lot more popular than abortions in the south though, so that would never happen.
>>689422186
From a country unable to organize even a medium size protest, all the "it is need to overthrowing the government" is quite laughable.
Most revolutions were done with people on the street, sticks and stones.
>>689422122
>you're fucked
I would get off with jutifiable murder on every charge,much like cops get when they kill someone accidently.
Stand your ground laws.
>>689419784
what's your problem? Infrangible is an awesome word.
>>689422248
We civilised them ofc. Just as we did with America.
>>689422413
ok fair enough, please have fun at the firing range! you don't have to "own" a gun, just hire it at the shooting range. everything is secure and you have your fun
>>689422071
Yes, that is absolutely retarded. I agree.
So, let me ask this then: why the fuck do liberals continue to advocate for more governmental control over our lives when it is plainly obvious to anyone with eyes that they can't do anything right or in a reasonable amount of time?
Btw, I'm ok with Universal background checks and even a license. But I'm not paying for that shit.
>>689422585
depends on the state, some like NY or IL make it very difficult to buy guns
>>689422354
The fucking point is that you should work on getting your fucking police de-militarized instead of stocking up on weapons.
That is just one more possible way to level the playing field.
But no, that would be too sensible.
>>689420779
I live in the southwest and they prefer the term American Indian over native American.
t. Anthropology instructor in Flagstaff
WAAAAAAAH DA GOVMENT IS TRYIN TO TAKE MU TOYS AWAY
That's what every person complaining about how they should be able to own AR-15s sounds like. They have zero practical use. They are used by you as toys. Your toys are not more valuable than preventing murder.
>>689422423
Nope. They have not. Otherwise there would be a 28th amendment addressing these issues.
Try again faggot.
>>689422603
>Stand your ground laws.
LOL! Only if they are niggers. Kill a white cop and see what happens.
>>689422668
You don't need a house either, you can hire one. Same goes for a woman. Why don't you hire a car?
I like it, I buy it. Why the fuck not? So you don't feel insecure?
>>689420779
>>689422869
vast majority of gun murders in this country caused by handguns, not AR15s
>>689422206
I grew up in Zurich. USA wants to have the freedom of Switzerland, (well the guns anyway, not the other civil liberties), but it diesnt want to have to be the educated, intelligent, tempered, respectful society that Switzerland relies on that allows it to have greater freedom without going berserk and killing itself.
All usa sees is "I want I want I want", no understand the relation between rights and responsibilities. Too many generations of poor parenting.
>>689422498
>The reverse of that creates tyranny or Europe.
So the reverse either creates Tyranny, or in the case of Europe: One of the statistically best places for a human being to live without the fear of being gun down in the street.
Great argument, bud.
>>689415171
>there Ignorant agenda
>there
Yea who's really the ignorant one here.
>>689422859
So what do you call people from India?
>>689415430
Right, and the 1st amendment was made before radio, TV, public address systems, and the internet. So let's get rid of that, too.
>>689423151
curry niggers
>>689423029
lol youre a /btard shitposting, otgerwise I'd add to the ridicule you deserve, for making whites still look like a bunch of backward ass toothless dopes from last century
ITT: stupid americunts that dont realise that the 2nd amendmend doesnt give them the right to defend themselves but the right to kill each other.
>>689422206
Buying guns from gun shops will need to have background checks done.
The dude that shot up the club in Orlando passed the background checks. More than one was done because he works as a guard that has contracts with DoD. Dude has no criminal history that barred him from owning guns from legit sources.
Rednecks selling guns ain't the problem here dude.
>>689422869
That's right. Let's make practicality the criteria for legal ownership of things.
Fuck you people are stupid.
>Hur dur founding fathers said we can have guns.
To the standards we hold today the founding fathers were a bunch of racist, sexist, drunk morons.
To say that they had any clue as to where we are now is just stupid.
We need to think what is right for us now and for the future.
ya think?
>>689423029
I'm offended by this brand.
>>689423195
nigga did you even fucking read what i said
>>689421185
>>689417073
As a European i can confirm this man is a left wing retard
>>689423375
>Thinks limiting access to guns is banning.
How cute, I bet you also think that drug laws work too.
>>689423151
Curry Heads
>>689423357
founding fathers said an armed populace would resist tyranny.
Judging them by today's standards is pointless.
And even so, bad people can have good ideas.
>>689421715
>greatest warriors the world has ever seen
>mad they start wars
Stay mad forever eurofag
>>689422186
>rednecks with pistols against the strongest military in the world which ever exited
Nigga you wat?
>>689423068
Yep won't get gunned down in europe. But will get gang raped by sand niggers.
I'll take my guns thank you
>>689420387
TRIGGERED
>>689423595
You're talking about the Germans?
>>689423037
vast majority of gun murders in this country caused by (NIGGERS with) handguns, not AR15s
>>689423357
So let's cast out everything they wrote down when creating the constitution. We can start with your first amendment rights, since those were written by racist drunk morons.
>>689423151
You were the one who called the other anon racist. How is it racist when he was using a term that many prefer themselves? This has nothing to do with India.
http://www.learnnc.org/lp/editions/
nc-american-indians/
>>689422596
Sticks and stones, how effective is that? At that point you are just throwing bodies into the state's meat grinder.
Sticks, stones and Molotov cocktails gives that romantic aura to revolutions but guns guarantees the win.
Just let the americans kill themselves off massacre by massacre. it's what they want and deserve.
Both Islam and high powered guns are problems. You're a fuckhead if you try to fucking simplify everything down to one issue.
>>689423604
It's a 100% volunteer military
They're not going to shoot americans, fuckwit
Source:11 years in the army
>>689422798
>getting your fucking police de-militarized
Yea right they join to be tough guys cause they were puss irl
They not gonna let it go now
>>689423699
Actually, I called that anon racist.
>>689423697
YES, get rid of all them and make new ones that fit for our time.
>>689423699
>You were the one who called the other anon racist
It wasn't me.
I dont get why non-usa-fags participate so emotional itt.
Just let them we-are-more-clever-than-the-rest-of-the-world shoot theirselves, they sure do know better!
>>689423037
K. 50 of them weren't yesterday. Zero chance this guy would have had even half as many kills with a handgun.
>>689423350
It literally is you moron or else you'd be able to own a fucking nuke. That's an "arm" too.
>>689423674
Sorry kiddo, turns out an amalgamation of the world's entire population is better than any one part
>>689423739
Define high powered.
Also, define Islam.
>>689423820
I appreciate your honesty.
>>689423595
>greatest warriors
As a completely impartial observer to the thread so far, let me step in to say that's completely bullshit.
The US spends more than any country in the world on their military. More, in fact, than the next 3 biggest spenders put together.
The US doesn't have the greatest warriors. Far from it. They have the best military technology, and more of it because of the sheer, gargantuan amount of resources the US spends on the military.
North Korea would have to spend its entire GDP for decades to even begin to come close. Literally no other country comes anywhere near the military spending of the US.
I love how if someone question the 2 amendment it means that ALL of the constitution "must be wrong then"
feast or famine huh?
why can't we go ONE by ONE and judge each thing for its own merit. Stop with the strawman arguments.
>>689415171
Let just ban guns like we did weed and other drugs
Got rid of them right?
Right?
....
>>689423498
No one in Europe calls themselves European fucking amerifag.
>>689423884
Well, nix that portion of my response to you then.
>>/pol/
>>/pol/
>>/pol/
>>/pol/
This entire fucking thread.
>>689423068
Europe is tyranny. That's the joke.
Live like a subject, die on your knees with a muslim dick in your ass.
>>689422694
you're 300 odd million, paying for that is not much believe me, but ok it's cool we agree
And I don't know why, maybe they feel insecure
>>689422925
I do not feel insecure no and people do hire houses... a lot. sure okay buy your gun, just don't give it to a fucking terrorist
wait did orlando shooter beat the high score?
>>689423988
Sorry our bronze cuts through your shitty iron
>cites the history of the world
>>689423949
1 issue
>>689424068
Kek, you're a fucking idiot son,
>>689416441
That what "arms" means you fucking halfbreed
>>689415171
>>689415171
You know OP, you are kinda right.
Your nation founders where wanted a big conscript force if the country is invaded (i bet you where not in service).
There is no organised stuff like that but hey - who cares.
But owning assault rifles (even if semi automatc) should be bound to being not a fully retarded amerifat whose brain was sucked out before the first school day and that believes every shit he is told.
You know why?
Just take a look at Switzerland. Surprise, 2/3 of the males between 20 and 34 are part of the military forces of that country.
That means, they got a full automatic assault rifle as well as a pistol and other military stuff at home!
Still, death by guns for 1000 inhabitants is way lower then in the brainded states of murcia.
And don't come up with "muh, but the blacks got the guns". I can remember one asian and now the muslims where going postal. All the others i can remeber where part of the your white masterrace.
So, just make it bound to not being braindead. And murica would loose all ist weapons.
>>689423872
That's not a smart idea considering that only wealthy and elite assholes will have any meaningful involvement in that.
You could always fuck off to another country, or if you're not an American, you could maybe try another cause.
>>689423357
What do you expect?
The same primitive apes that think the "founding fathers" are respectable and wrote a perfect constitution (that needed immediate amending 27 times), are the same slug brained knuckledraggers that read the bible and think it represents a high mark of decent morality, and not a reflection of early civilizations first rough attempts at establishing an ethical code for a hundred tribes of savage barbarians.
>>689423897
He had to reload to get that many rounds off
Reloading takes only a second or two
No drunk person at 3am has any sort of fast reaction time
Try harder
>>689423697
Also are you fucking stupid, that is a propositional fallacy.
Just because one thing needs to be changed doesnt mean everything will be changed.
>>689423914
Oh I see, have fun with niggers and mudslimes fucking your women!
Amalgamation is great!
No seriously, you meant to say the Germans.
>>689424061
Yeah, European is a pretty bad insult.
I'd be pissed if someone calls me that.
>>689424079
Europe is a tranny? Which bathroom can they use?
>too soon?
>>689423897
12,253 homicides in the United States in 2013
285 by rifles
But please, let's freak out over .02 of the problem so that we don't have to deal with black on black crime or, I don't know, isis
>>689424196
Yeah, that is the exact reason we need a new government.
>>689424061
The lefties do...
>>689424324
Sure as fuck didn't
Stay mad
>>689424117
the u.s. high score, yes
>>689424079
Yeah, keep chanting 'USA USA USA' or reality might just shatter your delusion.
>>689424187
If you could only speak coherently.
>>689424137
I'm just asking you to keep reality in perspective. The US's strength isn't in "great warriors". It's in their pocketbooks, and Technological advancements of war. It would be wise to not forget that. Tools only do the bidding of their masters, but they have no allegiances to keep, as they are mindless machines.
With instructions in multiple languages!
>>689424257
>immediate amending 27 times
try again
>>689424416
Depends on their pronouns.
I identify as an M1 Abrams. I can go anywhere.
>>689415171
The stupidity and ignorance of the daily news astonishes me. No assault rifle was used.
>>689417926
YOU CANT STUMP THE TRUMP
>>689421406
Obviously, you surrender, idiot. Unless you want to die. No matter how much firepower you have, the police will have more.
>>689424169
>>689424284
Except an AR clip holds more bullets. You really trying to argue a handgun is as efficient as an AR? Brb need to go laugh myself to sleep.
Your argument is conjecture. There is no conjecture in mine,,an AR is more deadly.and efficient than a handgun. Period. The NRA would agree.
I can tell you ALL this:
The 2nd Amendment will be REPEALED within 20 years. And we WILL ban your guns. That's a promise. America's veering left, politically.
Men like me will come for your guns. From your cold, dead hands? Ok. No problem.
You say a gun ban won't work in America. Watch.
>>689424257
Truth, even the smartest man is still just an exceptionally smart animal.
Mankinds biggest problem is thinking we are not animals.
Ameritards are at it again mom. Some sand coon shot some homos... should have cleaned some of the cancer from /b/
>>689424829
would love to see you try
>>689415171
access to guns should be regulated.
>>689424471
I'm not mad, I'm enjoying you saying amalgamation is a good thing but only wanting the European parts.
>>689424829
Cool. Hope you like the taste of lead you cuck.
>>689423897
Christ your fucking stupid. Using practicality as a basis for ownership would extend much farther than just arms... like your 12" vibrating jelly dildo for example.
There are times when I really wish faggots like you would get their way so I could watch you suffer under your own creation.
>>689422798
Stop being reasonable goddammit. That's not allowed in this thread.
>>689424550
American by choice, Southern by the grace of God.
Been to other countries, lived in a few, born in a 3rd world shithole, so yes USA USA!
If someone is fucking crazy enough to shoot a lot of people they aren't going to be stopped by some law
>>689416516
Nobody wants to see it from any viewpoint other than their own now. Just wish we could be mature and admit that maybe it's a little bit of both
>>689424425
Oh by all means explain how to prevent black on black crime. Or the 0.0001% of Americans ISIS kill.
>>689424829
see ya then, leftie.
>>689424794
>ar clip
Come back when you learn about guns
>>689424914
>>689424973
You fucking idiots. That is even more obvious b8 than the shit OP put up.
>>689416087
If they weren't idiots then why did they make the second amendment ambiguous
>>689415430
The first amendment was made when we just had pen and paper. So yeah, fuck the Internet, radio and tv.
>>689425157
www.youtube.com/watch?v=U76Nde6rMTw
>>689423350
It should be the criterion for ownership of some things. Like things that can kill 50 people in a few minutes.
>>689425128
and another idiot takes the b8. Do you gun nuts come here to get trolled?
>>689424425
>3rd highest population in the world
>>689424079
>Europe is tyranny
I don't feel like I m being controlled in my every move, I have life choices, I can watch what I like, listen to what I like, have my own political opinion and talk about everything I want and have fun. I don't feel the need to own a gun to have fun but each to their own hobbies
You should keep your right to bear arms, but have to obtain a firearms license that includes a comprehensive background check. Think about it, if you Americans do have to rise up against a corrupt government with guns, do you really want lunatics fighting along side you? How is this issue so hard for you inbred, tax-dodging fucks?
>>689424829
Nope, most likely being allowed to carry them around in city limits will be banned, but it will just become harder to get guns.
>>689424988
>compares a dildo to a NUCLEAR FUCKING BOMB
Your right to call anyone else stupid has been revoked.
WAIT UNTIL SHTF. YOU FAGGITS THAT WANT GUNS BANNED WILL BE BEGGING FOR SOME ONE WITH A GUN TO SAVE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. FAGGITS
>>689420522
Ignore Paris though!
>>689424829
Hurry it up. Like to see you try.
>>689424829
Traitors. Traitors everywhere
>>689425313
I don't own any guns, but I do enjoy being fished.
>>689424314
You can't have it both ways anon. Either their racist drunken morons incapable of contributing to this nations laws or they are not.
>>689415171
>The left seems to be driving there Ignorant >agenda
Well, there's the pot calling the kettle black.. Learn to spell, fuckhead, before you try to pass yourself off as knowing better than other people.
>>689425120
well you were just very concerned about 50 people killed by someone on ISISs friends list
We could prevent black on black crime first by ending the leftist fantasy that cops are what is driving black poverty and despair
>>689425444
Who gives a fuck about those frenchies?
Just don't compare us to them.
>>689425262
*sigh* its actually depressing how you fuckers think this is an argument
>>689421185
>>689425345
Then don't come around telling us what to do.
>>689424949
Never said that. You're assuming racism.
>>689425325
and?
>>689425746
No I'm assuming you have a brain.
>>689425262
actually wait i just read that again and got something else to be even more enraged at
pen and paper....PEN AND FUCKING PAPER ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?
>>689425261
"The right to bear arms shall not be infringed"
What part is difficult jackass?
>>689425298
Like cars?
Or planes?
Or trains?
Or improvised explosives?
Or drugs?
Or high rise buildings?
Face it anon. You're asking for a whole lot of shit by using practicality as a basis for ownership.
>>689425585
Even morons can be right, and if you can't figure out right from wrong without a guide you need help.
>>689424829
hahaha, your b8 is stale m8. It'd be cool and all if that bait wasn't ancient and decomposed.
>>689425261
they didn't its very clear and easy to read if you don't choose to ignore parts of it
>>689425697
>its actually depressing how you fuckers think
What are you? A brake pedal?
>>689423671
>being this edgy.
>>689419597
are you actually retarded?
>>689425641
How is changing rhetoric on cops going to stop Jamal from shooting Tyrone over the color of his shirt?
>>689424794
More people die from pistols than ar
Protip ar doesn't use clips, but keep talking about things you obviously know very little about
Rate of fire for ar is about 900
Rate of fire for average magazine pistol 800
1.125% more miniscule amount
Most people shot in "mass shooting" before was pistol. This guy had easier targets
Rate of fire is also irrelevant to how "deadly" a weapons is depends vastly on shooter
USA, NRA, MSNBC UR G8 B8 M8. Who cares boo hoo about a bunch of homos shot by a mudslime? U need more than Trump, HDOG is a Tard.
>>689415430
So did out government and it's oppressors. The 2nd amendment isn't so we can just have guns, it's so we can impede tyranny within our walls, should the need arise. They upped their game so we followed in kind.
A killer is a killer and they'll take lives with whatever tool they have available. Some tools are just more efficient than others.
>>689426050
wat?
>>689422121
You're a fucking faggot because you want more babies in the world? Boohoo fetus is durr hurr babies
faggot ass bitch.
If you're a fucking guy, go kill yourself
You talk as if you're carrying the baby yourself
You've been pregnant before? Fucking fag
>>689415171
Are you part of a "well regulated militia"? If not you have no right to own a gun. Secondly, these laws were written some 200 years ago when guns were single shot muskets. Not AR-15's. Laws change all the time. Unfortunately right wing brains regress.
>>689425398
Just because you think that doesn't set a precident to control all ownership doesn't make it true.
You should an hero.
>>689422798
>too sensible
Why dont we just throw sunflowers at people, in the hope they are allergic!!!!!
Would you go to the middle east with a tazer?
Didnt think so
Get cuck'd further eurofag
>>689423988
>greatest warriors
>far from the greatest warriors
That's a stupid point to argue and one that I doubt you'll be able to find any data on. But if you're wondering about American athletics just look to all those gold medals we get in the olympics, I can guarantee that in a country as large as ours that translates to the military a bit too.
>>689426097
>HDOG is a Tard
Hillary Dog?
>>689426091
Pistols should be illegal for civilians
>ITT
>Bann Gays than Guns
>implying not Murrica
>>689422859
Why dont we refer to every one ans homo homo sapien?
>>689425726
I was talking about hobbies, not mass shootings, I still don't approve of letting a terrorist have an AR legally though (even if supected a terrorist it's the same and the FBI can't let that happen)
>>689425927
Since you dont know anything about the controversy behind the ambiguity of the ammendment...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_keep_and_bear_arms_in_the_United_States#Interpretive_Models
It's basically about a comma which changes the meaning completely depending on how you interpret it.
tl;dr one of those doesnt mean "everyone is allowed guns, the end".
>>689425969
Perhaps you should have chosen a better way to argue for constitutional changes than to say the founding fathers were drunken racist morons.
Thanks NRA for killing all those faggots
>>689426088
http://chicago.suntimes.com/opinion/ferguson-effect-real-and-dangerous-to-african-americans/
because the left has been using BS incidents like Ferguson to push for getting police out of black neighborhoods, which is exactly what they don't need. More cops = more safety = more $. But if cops think they are going to get shot at just sitting in their cars they won't patrol those neighborhoods
>>689426286
Why pistols
>>689426325
Because niggers.. and sandpeople..
>>689426200
It doesn't Jackass hence why you.can't own missiles.
>>689423897
why didnt he use 1 grenade? Surly this is more damaging
>but not all muslims are like this its the 1%
>but not all gun owners are likt this, its the 1%
Cant have it both ways
>>689424829
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>>689415171
It's not like if those 200 people were armed they could've taken him out in no time
>>689426190
Yes, able bodied male here. We have a group in the neighborhood that do gun drills and such every month or so. Mostly led by vets.
>>689425697
tl;dr "ban guns becuz muh feelings"
Basically this whole thread is about people not owning a gun not wanting anyone else to own a gun.
