"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
> well regulated
Well America, it looks like gun control IS constitutional. When will you take action to prevent gun murders?
>>689376411
>>689376514
underrated
wish they would just hurry the fuck up and kill themselves already, the world is better with these fat cucks.
>>689376966
Says the american
>>689376411
>bear arms
>>689376411
>>689376411
>well regulated militia
>ATF
We already have that. IMO, the ATF is a bit too regulated but I won't complain because we can get permits.
The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected
>>689378146
This.
>>689376411
>gun control
If you knew anything about USA constitutional law, you'd know that all the words in the constitution only take on their full meaning after interpretation by the courts.
Now go read the Heller decision. It talks about the meaning of that phrase.
You wanna bitch about it? Bitch at SCOTUS.
What part of "shall not be infringed" do you ot understand you wuss? Grow a pair sjw.
>>689379348
If we got rid of all the guns there would be no more murder because guns.
Fucking 2nd amendment.
> A well regulated militia
America already has that. You people right now, don't need to fight for the
>security of a free state
Leave that to your ancestors, fucking pieces of shit.
That shit is not valid anymore.
>>689379348
That faggot document was written like two and a half centuries ago. What part of "obsolete" don't you understand?
>>689380766
Eat shit, eurocuck.
>>689380125
>If we got rid of all the guns there would be no more murder
>no more murder
>>689376411
There are laws on he books that regulate. Over 20,000 to be exact. What new laws would prevent this? Paris got shot up even with a total ban.
>>689376411
Good thing I don't have to answer to you, or politicians for that matter.
Phew, I was concerned for a minute that I might have given a shit!
>>689380766
Right because we are so free with government bigger than ever. Fucking pleb.
>>689376411
>>689376411
Nice GayR-15
millerreport.us is with you all the way
>>689376411
Well regulated refers to the militia, not to the arms they bear.
>>689376411
Hahahaha, look how many gun owners there are and how many guns they own. It's too late. Also the Orlando shooter was a security guard so he was able to get a permit for the weapons.
>>689376411
>right of the people
Not, right of the militia to issue arms to the people.
>>689381144
It doesnt work that way
>>689381702
>get a permit for the weapons
Don't need a permit to buy a shitty semi-auto rifle that the media erroneously calls an "assault rifle".
>>689381920
Yeah obviously it doesn't work. People are killing each other. That's why it needs to be revisited.
>>689381144
>faggot document
>>689382179
Oh yeah? Hmm, maybe we should revisit the whole bill or rights? No more mean words or assembly in public, we now have to house soldiers, etc. Fantastic. Also people kill each other, guns just make it easier
>>689382179
>People are killing each other. That's why it needs to be revisited
Huh, really makes you think. If we change the second amendment, people will stop killing each other and crime rates will drop to zero. Nice.
>>689376411
>the right of the people
Got news for you friendo
Guns don't kill people. People Kill People By Using guns the Wrong way.
>>689376411
You don't know basic sentence structure, or what a dependent clause is, do you? What I'm saying is, your reading comprehension is pretty specious.
Look up "equivocation." You're doing it.
>>689382918
I'm pretty certain people kill people by using guns the RIGHT way.
>>689383219
>tips fedora
>>689376411
>"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
>translated to modern speak
>Since the government (states or federal) will need a national guard or army for their security, and since those forces could be used against the people, the people should have arms to defend themselves.
>>689381144
Well, in that case guns should be used for revolving agaist the government lol, not for posting them on Facebook
>>689383289
I'm sure he meant with the wrong intentions. Either way my guns are where they are and haven't killed anyone since I've owned them. And I'll be damned if I vote to let a situation that is about radical Islam and not about guns restrict my rights as a law abiding American. I own several guns. I carry 1 of 2 of them on a daily basis depending on what I'm doing. I'm not who you need to fear. But the left of the govt fear people like us because we won't sit idly by and let our rights be trampled.
>inb4 muh drones
The local police all the way up to the military are gonna side with the people. Who's got the drones now.
>>689381254
Not even close lol
>>689382918
That's why guns are for, that's why they want them
>>689376769
bump
>>689380766
Just what I want, police 15 minutes away. No chance of self defense
>>689383716
And no one needs guns, an average american person would need guns for....?
You've owned them and you've never killed anyone, but some crazy mofos want to own guns, to indeed kill someone.
>>689383971
He probably didn't hear you over the sounds of his gf getting raped to death by refugees while he smiles at the cctv cameras so the govt knows he wast raycis
I think it's funny that some of the biggest anti gun people are celebrities and politicians that have 24/7 armed guards. But the little people can't have a gun for their protection.
>>689384112
No one needs free speech
>>689384112
So go talk to them. Leave me the fuck alone.
>>689384201
This is unironically true.
>>689384201
And nobody needs a whiny little faggot yet here you are. Not him btw.
>>689384388
Nice dubs. Not him btw.
>>689384112
You have a smoke detector or fire extinguisher and don't use them often if ever. You have insurance that you rarely if ever use. So your point?
>>689384379
It doesnt surprise me you think like this
>>689384388
XD good one lmfao
>>689376411
Gun control is already constitutional. Further, we've amended amendments to the Constitution numerous times. There is no workable reason why the 2nd one can't be changed to be in keeping with the times, just like we did on so many other occasions.
I can't wait til we have fucking lazer guns protected by the 2nd. Niggas gonna be having sci fi gang wars an shit.
>>689380125
Are you fucking 12?
>>689384524
What do you need free speech for? All you need to do is go to work,, make money, and go home and fap and pay vidya. Or just fap and play vidya all day. Whichever it is.
>>689385542
What do we need any rights for? I love your idea of a country.
>>689385542
You don't even need money. Gov should pool it all and ration out food, clothes housing, transportation, etc. A few credits time in time for impulse fun spending
>>689384112
Guy you replied to. Also the guy that said leave me the fuck alone. But I'll give you a piece of wisdom. Sure. I own guns and have never had to use them. I don't want to have to use them. They are a last ditch effort to keep me and my family alive if the worst happens. I also take measures to keep me out of those situations. Such as not going to big cities often and when I do I stay the fuck out of alleys or keep from wandering too far from whatever place I'm at. I also live in a low crime area. But anything can happen and to think it'll never happen to you, while maybe statistically right, is a foolish notion. Home invasions happen. Car jacking, mugging, robberies, these things happen. And if it happened to me and my son was hurt because I didn't stop it? I'd probably kill myself. But I will have at least tried and prepared as much as possible. I train biweekly at least. Run draw drills and shoot distance and can draw from just above my wallet(most usual goal of muggers) and be on target and firing at less than a second. I hope I never have to use this skill. But it's fun as hell while I'm doing it. And I live in a state that trusts me enough to let me so why not?
>>689376411
come and get them motherfucker
>>689385077
You don't just amend something that's in the bill of rights all willy nilly
>>689386032
No credits man, everything free
>>689386418
Wow. Yalls niggas is really dumb.
Someone misuses a gun, 50 people die
>we should ban all guns
Someone misuses a car, 100's people die every day
>shit happens
>>689386096
>implying you'd put up a fight
Faggot you'd surrender them when asked just like everyone else.
>>689385542
I find your question quite funny considering what you are doing right now takes a part in freedom of speach being able to say what you want when you want to. everyone is entitled to an opinion but we can choose to ignore your stupidity and those of the sheepole like yourself
>>689386708
>sarcasm
>>689386905
Sure thing chief.
>>689384438
this
>>689377515
that's not what the word regulated meant in this context
it meant "had all the tools to succeed"
>>689376411
>"Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.”
A great quote in my opinion. We should keep our arms to drive away these sandniggers.
>>689386905
yeah just like I gave up all my illegal pot
>>689387046
You're honestly saying you'd commit suicide by cop rather than hand them over and continue with your life? Because I don't believe you tough guy.
>>689387853
I would agree with the other faggot here
>>689386905
>Faggot you'd surrender them when asked
Yep, if guns are banned, they are going to dispatch a cop to every home in the US. they'll knock and ask if you have a gun. Every citizen who owns a gun will willingly hand over everything rather than just saying no. If a citizen doesn't hand over the gun, they will kill the owner
Really makes you think
>>689387853
Well for one, how do they know i have guns (im not the one who posted the pic), 2 i have the home court advantage. They arent going to show up with the whole police force, just one or two guys. 3. I would never hand over my weapons.
>>689387853
You underestimate what we would do to protect our rights, cunt.
>>689388300
Dubs know what's up!
>>689376411
didn't we try a bunch of gun control from 1994 to 2004 and it didn't work for shit?
>>689380766
Why don't you worry about all the muslims coming in to your shit hole country instead of worrying about the US.
>>689388347
No, I really don't. You're really very cringeworthy.
>>689380125
>got rid of all the guns
Why don't we just get rid of all criminals?
>>689388767
>look at the title
>>689376411
in the classical definition a militia is every able-bodied male in the society.
>>689388607
Whatever you say mudslime, I won't let my gov control me unlike you and your nanny state.
>>689388381
>a marx quote on the american flag
lmao tbh fam
>>689389068
One of these days it will work!
>>689376411
>>689388607
So it is cringeworthy to you when people say they would stand up for their rights?
Fucking 2016 people
>>689388887
I'm a gun owning American, retard.
Why do Amerifats think guns keep them safe? If someone intends to kill you, there's basically nothing you can do short of living in an underground bunker.
>dude wants to kill you
>waits outside your door
>you open the door to leave
>kills you
Carrying 300 different guns on your person at all times isn't going to save you.
It's fucking stupid.
>>689389619
this is really transparently bad b8
>>689386086
Holy shit man. It must be fucking awful to have to live in such a state of fear.
Literally no one has to do that here in Australia, it's awesome. Go out, don't get shot, go home. But yeah you're way is cool too.
>>689389388
Then you are actually retarded if you'd give up your gun. I hope they take it from you coward.
>>689389821
>my country must be completely free of high crime areas since I don't live in one.
>>689389821
Hope you get stabbed by an Abo
>>689389619
Wow you're so right. In the very unlikely situation someone is trying to kill me and has no regard for their own safety or being imprisoned I am guaranteed to die. Its not as if I can call the cops.
>>689389850
>retarded for valuing a pistol over my life and the law
>>689389821
>It must be fucking awful to have to live there
>Australia
>>689389850
Wow see this? Now this faggot suddenly wants guns confiscated. What a bizarre plot twist.
>>689376411
So what are you going to do to stop it?
Personally I hope you all degenerate into a massive killing spree. The more dead the better. Really America is everything that's wrong with the world.
>>689386086
>if someone knocked on my front door and shot me dead as I opened it, I would be so thankful that guns were so readily available as I watched my wife and child get raped and murdered
bravo ameritard, bravo
>>689390187
Yep, truly retarded.
>>689390286
If you're not willing to protect your rights, then I won't cry for you when they are taken away faggot.
>>689390187
>>retarded for valuing a pistol over my life and the law
>not realising a gun can protect your life
>not realising confiscating weapons across the US will never fucking happen and would be extremely inefficient/ineffective
>>689380125
we could just use what ever wonderful law that they used to stop all the murders with pressure cookers like in the Boston Marathon Attack.
muslims attack with guns... retards says ban guns
muslims attack with planes... did we ban planes?
muslims attack with pressure cookers... did we ban kitchen utensils?
maybe we should look at the muslims?
>>689390054
How the fuck would you call the cops? Someone you've never met or seen before is intending to murder you - there's nothing you can do about it.
Don't like the gun laws in this country, there is always Paris.... Heard it nice in the summer!!!
>>689390006
Nope, we don't, a hard concept to fathom Im sure. Only people who get killed are people who go out of their way to become involved in criminal activity, or domestic violence related. Average Joe has nothing to fear :)
>>689389619
it's not about planned assassinations
it's about nignogs trying to rob you, and stopping mass murderers, or in the horrible chance of defending against an act of war
>>689390187
What a coward. You dont deserve the life you have.
>>689390721
With my phone. Hello 911 there some shady looking fucker thats been outside my house for hours.
>>689390840
you are truly and magnificently retarded.
>>689390393
>>689390548
>>689390564
Unlike you niggers I respect the law. If the law said no guns, I'd comply. You would too, you're just afraid to admit it.
Life was much simpler several hundred years ago, before guns were invented, because back then no one ever murdered anyone, and there certainly was never any mass killings. Humans don't do that stuff, it's all the guns...
>>689382179
and the 1st cause people use words to hurt. free speech is obsolete
>>689390721
>Someone you've never met or seen before is intending to murder you
Why would someone who I've never met or seen want to kill me, exactly? What motive is there for this person? Nice hypothetical scenario
If people want to own assault rifles, let them form militias and document who exactly has what. Engrave serial numbers into each weapon, indicating where it was made.
And when those assault rifles fall into the hands of criminals who do not have the proper licensing to own such weapons, when those criminals use their weapons to murder, let the investigation follow up on whose assault rifle they got their hands on, and prosecute that person for letting a criminal get a hold of their gun.
Obviously the Feds will use the registration system to curtail your efforts. But that's exactly the kind of thing which is going to make your militia popular. The more Feds OPENLY have to restrict your fire arms, the more of a case you have to make a well regulated militia.
Well regulated militia. Not shit storm of angry drunk red necks who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.
>Well regulated militia
>Well regulated
>>689390226
lol, yeah sucks living in the world's most liveable city /b/ro. Sometimes my train is late.
>>689391050
No i wouldnt.
>the law is infallible
Are you trolling? Serious question
>>689376411
It very clearly says shall not be infringed. Either way, banning guns doesn't stop criminals from buying them illegally.
>>689389850
and there is the closet fascist faggot
>>689391050
It disgusts me to think people like you exist. Just because something is a law doesn't mean it should be followed blindly. I have never called someone a sheep before because it's almost always retarded, but that's what you are, a sheep.
>>689391050
>I'd comply. You would too
>I'm a fucking cuck. That means you're a cuck too. Now I feel better about myself.
>>689391050
No I'm not afraid of shit.
>>689391237
You do understand no one takes what australians say seriously right? You could be 100% right, but you guys are such cunts no one ever believes you
>>689390378
muslim kills... obvious it is america doing this
>>689391180
Ask Christina Grimmie
>>689391231
still doesn't know what well-regulated means
>>689376411
My friends, family, and I, are now officially a well regulated militia. Prove me wrong? There. Your theory is out the door.
>>689376411
back in those days, the militia was every able bodied person able to carry and shoot a gun.
/thread
>>689391237
Singapore is not part of Australia.
>>689391449
>Christina Grimmie
I'm not a celebrity, genius. I'm talking about the general citizen
>>689391512
male*
>>689391426
We think the exact same of you pal. Have fun with your new President :^)
>>689391449
>average joes
>picks a celebrity
>>689391322
>>689390966
and then police magically appear
great work
>>689391631
Kek have fun with your queen
>>689391677
>magically
nah they'll probably get there in like 10 minutes. Whats your point m8
>>689391145
just think if america had not given ghengis khan all those guns
>>689391550
>>689391635
>hurrdurr only famous people are randomly killed on the street
>>689376411
>>689381258
cant you read faggot
>>689391798
Good thing in those 10 mins, that guy can rape kill and loot
>>689391550
ya cause nobody will disarm the famous... i mean the very important people will still have guns just not you regular shits
>>689391253
Not trolling.
>>689391350
>>689391402
>>689391349
Do you idiots even listen to yourselves? Your devotion to your guns is insane. You're like cultists. This is why other people think gun owners are crazy scary nutjobs. Because it's how you behave. I might not agree with a law but by living in a civilized country you implicitly agree tip follow its laws. That's how it works for adults. But at least a couple of you have mentioned that you smoke pot so I don't guess I'm surprised by your juvenile mindset.
>>689392184
you're on 4chan. you're being baited and you are baiting back.
>>689388767
havent you seen planet of the apes? they would all break out of their cages and fight against humans
>>689391522
Melbourne has been ranked the world's most liveable city for the last 5 consecutive years by The Economist. Nice bait tho
>>689392041
How is he gonna get into my house?
>>689392184
>follow the laws cause they're laws.
>Maximum Overcuck
>>689391912
Huh, I'm glad I'm not a nigger living in the shithole of society. Now, I don't need to worry about being randomly killed by people who have never met or seen me
You're making it seem as if the chance to be "randomly" killed is incredibly high.
I'd imagine a guy like you would be the first person to get a gun
>>689392184
>>689392342
lol citing the economist.
>>689392184
????
So blindly following laws that you know are corrupt is being an adult? You do understand it isnt about the guns, it is about the right to own them. The right that no man or government has to take away from you. You would gladly give up your rights because it is civilized and the adult thing to do? I refuse to believe you are being serious, no one can think like this.
>>689392390
Crow bar? Break a window? Bull rush the door? Many ways lol
>>689392184
it is the devotion to law
and the law is set by the constitution.
infringing on my right is an actual violation of the law... so you were tard talking???
>>689392390
>ANARCHY BRO!!!!11 XD
>>689392534
lol not citing any other credible opinion
>>689392184
>civilised country you implicitly agree tip follow its laws
>I will blindly follow when the government tries to take away a tool for defending myself in the instance I'd need it
>If the government took away my free speech, I'd blindly comply because we must always follow the law no matter what. I will follow all corrupt law that violate my rights!
Kill yourself?
There's literally no debate
>>689388381
>that image
Oh the fucking irony.
>>689391437
> born in the USA
Sing it like Bruce Springsteen baby..
>>689392668
but those are all against the law... nobody does that
>>689392780
Singapore is clearly better than any city in Australia for the simple reason that you don't have to deal with any Australians. That alone blows your opinion out of the water.
>>689392668
and while he's busy with that I'll shot him.
>>689392760
>Anarchy
More like
>Resisting Tyranny
>>689388570
Yeah, they figured out "assault weapons" weren't really used in crime anyway, and when they were they were illegal guns to begin with.
>>689392964
shoot*
>>689376411
The Supreme Court has multiple times ruled that all people of fighting age are militia. This is in agreement with the sentiments of the Founders, in various papers and essays and letters in which the topic was discussed.
The right to bear arms is granted to the people, who are intrinsically the militia.
Gun control is therefore unconstitutional.
>>689392963
This. Fuck australians, silly cunts
>>689376411
In 1786, "regulated" meant well disciplined, not controlled.
>>689391032
Ask literally any of the 23 million population. Please.
>>689392893
no sing it like Bruce Downsteen and you will sound way more progressive
>>689390383
>dead
>watching the rape
>>689388381
Hey OP, this is how you do it
>>689392848
>>689392695
>>689392561
>>689392964
Do you guys think you're badasses? Simple question.
>>689393090
plus every time the amendments mention "the people" they 100% always mean the individual.
but in the 2nd libtards expect we will believe that this one time the founders meant all the people and not the individual
>>689388602
hur dur dur buht duh mudslimes are in youreope hur dur dur. fucking american idiots. You want to stick your noses in everyone else's shit but how dare any outsider comment on your backwater, cultureless shithole. Fuck you guys - I hope you elect trump and accelerate your decline into the irrelevance you so richly deserve
>>689393512
nope
i dont even have a gun. just dont want the right to be infringed upon
>>689393512
No? What does that have to do with anything? Explain how in your mind bending over for the law is civilized? How giving up your god given rights is the adult thing to do? Answer that
Also pic related m8, you arent fooling anyone
>>689376411
Did you miss this part?
> the right of the people to keep and bear Arms
>>689393582
Good because you sound more like snowflakes.
>>689392963
Don't be salty lad, there's still hope you guys can climb the ladder. I'm sure Trump will make Murcia great again, no question
>>689393512
>Do you guys think you're badasses?
>has nothing to do with gun control
>>689393803
Someone is booty bothered, did that muslim comment hit home? How is living in the caliphate?
>>689393803
oh shit euro tard is triggered beyond repair
>>689390840
>my country has no violent crime
>only people doing violent crime get killed
>these violent crimes are victimless because nobody dies from violent crime
>>689394009
>nobody's taking my gun, I'll die before it happens, COME GET EM!
The 2nd amendment was intended for a musket that isnt very accurate and takes a minute to reload. I highly doubt they would have used such generic language if rpg's, tanks, and fully automatic rifles existed in the 18th century, or thought the people who came later wouldnt be so stupid to not change things that were problems.
>>689393975
>Blindly follows whatever the law says, doesn't have a backbone, overall cuck
Badass
>wants to protect the right to own a gun for protection, if that's what the person wants
Snowflake
oy vey
>>689376411
no one even wants to take your precious assault rifles....just sane background checks...you know to keep curtail who has the ability to commit slaughter
>>689394325
https://youtu.be/CquUBWHU2_s
>>689394036
it is not bad as long as you join in and make the other tards believe you are just as tarded as they are... plus the all you can bone little boy butt on Thursdays is pretty nice
>>689394368
if someone wants to commit slaughter they will find away. even this Omar the Arab followed the gun control steps in place to get his gun.
>>689394368
the orlando shooter passed background checks and was interviewed by the fbi three times
>>689394314
>I'll die before it happens, COME GET EM!
Before you post in the thread again, ask yourself: How exactly do you think the government would efficiently confiscate all guns from all citizens?
You make it sound so simple and you make it sound as if cops will send squadrons to people houses if they don't comply and kill the owners
Are you stupid?
>>689394325
it also covered canon and mortars so no you are wrong
and stupid
>>689393821
> why cant I own a nuke, a tank, or an apache helicopter if i have the money then? Or how about just military hardware that isnt top secret &/or decomissioned and unarmed?
>>689394837
they will send cops and if the owner resists well we all know how that ends
>>689393988
America is on net a much better place to live than Australia. I really don't give a shit that the microscopic risk of being murdered in America is 5 times larger or whatever. 5 times a microscopic risk is still a microscopic risk.
>>689376411
Who actually cares? So 50 fags die and it's the largest act of terrorism since 9/11. I'd say 50 is a pretty good number considering all these years. Anyway, on the casual day to day killings and shit it's all niggers. By attempting to enforce gun control all you're doing is trying to save the stupid niggers, which is pointless unless you're not racist. Faggot
>>689394325
Why does that matter? The 2nd amendment was intended to protect the people from the gov't. Present day gov't has access to more firepower so it follows that we should too.
>>689394325
>The 2nd amendment was intended for a musket, minute to reload
Ever heard of the girandoni rifle? Doubt it
>outdated
I guess the 1st amend is outdated since it only really applies to letters and talking, not the internet
>>689376411
regulated internally, faggot
>obvious b8
>>689394837
If guns are illegal and they know you have them and won't turn them in, then yes I think after enough nice requests they would come to take them. They wouldn't just blow your fucking brains out for no reason but if you tried to use your guns to defend """""muh rights""""" then yes they'd shoot you obviously.
>>689395000
the cop will die or the civilian will be martyred
>>689394325
muskets were not accurate. and they weren't very reliable. thats kind of why bayonets were attached to them.
>>689394368
when muslims attack gay bar... retards say America has a gun problem
when muslims attack Marathon... retards say we have a pressure cooker issue
when muslims attack skyscrapers... retards say we have a plane crash issue.
you are dum.... (you are to dumb to actually be qualified for the whole word)
>>689395000
>hey will send cops and if the owner resists
>Do you have a gun?
>No
>Okay, bye
>Do you have a gun
>Yes
>Give it
>No. GONNA FUCKING KILL YOU
Try again
>>689395000
So the cops will just execute someone because they might think they have guns?
>>689395280
sure lets go with that.
>>689395176
Ban guns? Ban 4chan too. Then what will you faggots use to jerk off to traps and shota porn?
>>689393512
I pretty much am a badass, but it's my attitude and outlook on life that makes me so, not my rifles.
>>689376411
>> well regulated
THIS MEANS THAT YOU PRACTICE ENOUGH TO HIT WHAT YOU AIM AT.
Nice try, bonehead.
>>689395250
And you feel this is acceptable?
Also,
>muh rights
I cant believe people mock their god given rights, the rights you are born with, but oh it deals with guns so hurr durr muh rights lol rednecks
>>689395250
>they know you have them
How would they know? They gonna do checks for every citizen and sweep every home?
>>689395280
See this is the kind of cringy autism I'm talking about.
>>689395250
nice progressive wet dream.
why do all the leftist beat off to death porn? the thought of gun owners getting killed gives the progressive chad such a huge 3inch boner
>>689395372
no for resisting them
>>689395250
Who do you think makes up the police force and army? It isn't robots. 95% of the people in both factions would never go door to door and do this. The 2A is too important to us all.
GG government and liberal cucks
>>689395361
you are like anti-viagra to the progressive gun graber
>>689395739
So people should get executed for resisting the cops?
>>689376411
"Well regulated" at that time meant they needed to keep their guns clean you fucking cunt. Do your research.
>>689395631
>god given
Let's not even open that can of autistic worms. Point is, acceptable or not, it doesn't matter what you think about it, you're NOT going to go out in some blaze of glory and martyrdom over some fucking guns if the government decides you can't legally own them anymore.
>>689395372
in the left view this would be a great thing.
millions of dead gun owners gives them such a huge 2in peener
>>689394277
No shit, don't become involved in underworld activity and you won't get shot. In Murcia you can be buying lunch and get shot dead by a jumpy method addict during a robbery. You're not seriously telling me you don't understand the distinction
>>689395696
I already said I have guns, but that I obey the law.
The 2nd Amendment could never have been meant to give gov'ts the right to regulate guns (which isn't to say that they don't). Gov'ts don't have rights they have powers afforded to them by the people.
>>689395889
if any citizen resists a cop whether its arrest or a court order there is a chance that person will be shot
>>689395889
only white gun owners.... everyone else is a victim that the police need to handle with much more care
>>689394756
>>689394760
then you agree the current checks are insufficient ,personally i see no reason a person would want or need an assault rifle...im trying to compromise...severe background checks for any weapon that can kill 10+ people in a sitting seems reasonable enough
>>689395900
Keeping your guns clean meant keeping them out of the hands of outlaws. As in, "these guns are dirty." "These guns are clean."
>>689396165
Which is as it should be.
>>689376411
Regulate the militia all you like, you illiterate cunt.
You can't infringe on the right to bear arms in the process.
We really need to bring back literacy tests for voting.
>>689395985
?????
Dude why are you on about this blaze of glory badassness? This whole time ive been saying i wont give my guns, because the cops wont know i have them, and if they did know they wont get them and they can throw me in jail. It really is only you who is thinking about this blaze of glory shit.
Also god given=natural rights it just reads better, so keep your fedora on
>>689396234
he didn't use an assault rifle. those are already almost entirely illegal to own and have been since the 1930s
how does a background check become severe exactly?
>>689383685
>Underrated
>>689394760
This is the real fucking problem, history of domestic abuse too.
He should never have been able to buy guns or work as a security guard.
The FBI obviously fucked up something.
How about actually enforcing the gun laws and background checks that are already in place before trying to implement new laws.
>>689396234
can we ban pressure cookers as well?
>>689396165
>chance
That isnt how you originally said it
There's a reason the USA hasn't been invaded in over 200 years. I'll keep my guns and not get pillaged like Europe has twice in the last 100 years.
Fuck the niggers that kill each other. The mass shootings are a society problem.
>>689395356
what about when a mentally ill shut-in attacks a kindergarten
or a deranged foreign exchange student shoots up a college campus.
or a sociopathic businessman celebrity runs for the highest office in the land.....your culture is sick, so is islam
>>689396234
psychiatric checks should be mandatory yes. but an outright ban is wrong.
>>689396546
how many pressure cooker deaths are there a year in america?
>>689396400
right and that's why we have the second amendment. to protect ourselves from a tyrannical government.
>>689396165
>if any citizen resists a cop whether its arrest or a court order there is a chance that person will be shot
But how would the cop know the person has firearms with such certainty, and why would the cop want to kill the potential owner for simply resisting?
I'd imagine that cops are mostly republican gun owners and would not agree with anything you're saying at all. Sounds like your liberal wet dream fantasy
>>689396542
but he was muslim... you cant do that to a muslim
first it is racist and 50 dead are way better then ever being a rasist...
and second Muslims explode when you make them mad... if you would have angered him he could have exploded in that bar
>>689396718
Boston bombing
>>689396234
>then you agree the current checks are insufficient
The current checks are sufficient if they are being used.
Someone fucked up big time and failed to note his history of domestic abuse and investigations by the FBI.
Or his retard of a ex-wife never reported the domestic abuse.
>>689396570
what are the pacific and atlantic oceans
>>689396420
So the whole "cold dead hands" thing is just a meme, eh? Like I thought.
I don't believe you'd go to prison over your guns either though. If you say you'll keep them and hope they don't find out then fine, I'll believe that much but if you're busted you're going to do what it takes to stay alive and unincarcerated.
>>689396582
yes if we ban guns trump will go away...
you nailed it anon!!!
>>689396234
Background checks have never stopped someone from committing a crime who really wanted to
They don't work and never have
>>689396884
Every gun has a serial number when you purchase a gun you have to register the firearm. you are now in the system as a gun owner and they know what guns you have.
>>689396718
if it is about numbers we should ban alcohol, cars and stairs... fucking stairs
>>689385077
>>689386194
In fact the bill of rights doesn't give the rights. It acknowledges the rights of the natural man. These rights are the rights of all humanity, no matter what. It cannot be changed because they are the rights humanity are born into, not given by a piece of paper or a politician based on what his demographics tell him.That is why they shall not infringed.
>>689396593
i can see why guns are in the constitution , that makes a kind of sense so I'm not going to argue it
they shouldnt be so easily available though...something has to be done about all the mass shootings and gun violence, the answer isnt do nothing
>>689376514
>Not understanding basic grammatical structure.
What ever way you want to divvy around with it its clearly under a militia. Your average fatass, ignorant americuck does not qualify as a militia
>>689397242
So you're saying they'd go out and look for all the guns are search homes for said guns if the person doesn't comply? Do the guns have gps tracking devices too??? What about guns obtained illegally?
What a waste of time and resources. Because the war on and confiscation of drugs is so effective, right?
>>689397121
no i just thought id add that to piss you off... your country is sliding rapidly into the shitter
>>689396955
was typing this exact post.
>>689394941
Uh... In a lot of those instances you can.
The Orlando sandnigger was already under FBI watch but they closed the case saying everything was OK.
He worked for a government security contractor and had permits issued by the government to buy and carry guns for his job. That means he had an extensive background check, fingerprints, and interviews with FBI already. Even if guns were banned from civilian ownership, this guy would have still been able to get them because he had the government issued permits.
And fuck you too!
>>689397273
you dont see the difference between alcohol , cars stairs and assault rifles?
>>689396593
How about doctors actually start using the systems that are already in place and reporting people that they feel are unfit to own weapons?
As it is now very few medical professionals seem to understand their part in keeping lunatics away from guns.
>>689397106
No, not at all. Just because you would willing give up you arms and your rights doesnt mean i would. And when have i said cold dead hands? When, you are assuming alot during this whole discussion. Just come to the realization that you are a coward and your life would be easier
>>689397571
Not that fag, but the fact that the war on drugs is ineffective sure as fuck isn't stopping them from trying.
>>689397518
>grammar never changes
>modern grammar is the same as 200 years ago
>>689397571
now your starting to see the issue with banning guns. illegally obtained guns. banning guns would only disarm those who are law abiding citizens
>>689397700
>permits issued by the government to buy and carry guns for his job
You don't need permits to buy guns.
For carrying them in his work yes, but not for buying them.
>>689397769
I just have my priorities straight, retard. Chances I'd ever suffer a negative consequence of surrendering my guns in the event of a ban are very low. I could live with it just like millions of unarmed Americans already do. I'd prefer to keep my heat but it isn't the end of the world if I can't.
>>689395000
Cops have already said(by means of the various sheriffs and Chiefs associations) that they would stand by their oaths to defend the constitution and not enforce any kind of confiscation based gun control. The military has said the same thing and are not required to follow unconstitutional orders. Our guns aren't going anywhere. Might as well look at the actual problem we do currently have involving radical Islam and how easy it is to radicalize a moderate Muslim.
>>689397767
Right and I totally agree with that
>>689376411
You really don't understand the nature of a comma do you?
The 2nd amendment was placed to LIMIT the governments ability to strip people of their ability to overthrow a rouge government. NOT to give the government the power to limit the people.... Grow a brain.
>>689398083
>i would willingly give up my rights because it is the adult thing to do
Whatever coward
>>689398115
I definitely don't think guns are going anywhere I thought you were talking hypothetical.
>>689397385
>something has to be done
I'll say it. Mass shooting aren't a problem. They make up a small fraction of all guns deaths which themselves make up a small fraction of deaths. The only reason people think they're a problem is because they get so much coverage. More children are killed by drowning in pools but you don't hear about those because they're not as dramatic.
>>689398083
Maybe you should give up your right to free speech and shut the fuck up. Without guns your "rights" are simply privileges that can be revoked at any whim. IF you were a grown up you would understand this.
>>689398115
>moderate Muslim
There is no such thing.
So called " moderate Muslims" have openly supported terrorist organizations or help hide terrorists in several cases.
>>689397778
>sure as fuck isn't stopping them from trying.
That's like beating a dead horse. The war on drugs has overall failed and it's seemingly a waste of millions of dollars, and I'd imagine it places more power in drug cartels. I'd rather some of that money go towards education. research, etc or anything really
Gun ban searches would be the exact same. Waste of time resources with no real effect
>>689398229
>I'm gonna do whatever I want because fuck authority
Whatever sperglord
>>689381280
>> Paris
Because 1 terror attack in a bunch of years isn't the same as a mass shooting EVERY DAY.
libs get mad at anything scary.
>extended magazine
>pistol grip
>buttstock
>black
> ghost ring sights
makes it a ghost gun so no one knows it exists
fuck you.
>>689391231
Guns already have serial numbers on them jackass.
>>689397242
>you have to register the firearm
lol
No.
There are more than half a billion unregistered firearms currently in circulation in the US.
You know, you guys might have more success getting gun control passed if you weren't so willfully ignorant about guns and the current gun laws.
>>689398556
I agree with you but if you were caught with drugs (or in this hypothetical case, guns) you'd go to jail.
>>689396718
About as many or more as there are deaths due to assault rifles
>>689398595
Yes because it is about spitting on authority and not about keeping your rights. Good job, glad to know i share a country with a spineless jellyfish
>>689398721
not to mention a list of gun owners has already been judged to be unconstitutional.
>>689391231
>assault rifles
People keep using that word like they actually knew what it means.
>>689397571
Liberalism is a mental illness.
>there's no way we can find and deport 11 million illegal immigrants
>we'll go door to door confiscating half a billion guns and killing anyone who resists
>>689398513
>Without guns your "rights" are simply privileges that can be revoked at any whim.
That's all they are with guns, too.
>>689382179
What about paris?
France has much more restrictive gun laws than the US and surprisingly those terrorists were magically able to obtain weapons.
Maybe terrorist gonna do there thing no matter if the weapons are legal or not.
>>689382729
Only a dumb fuckwit wpuld use this argument. A sizeable reduction is worth the effort.
>>689398057
Yes you do, Illinois requires a state issued FOID to buy guns. NC when I was there last required you to go to the sherrifs office in Fayetteville and fill out an application to buy a gun. Maryland requires the Handgun Qualification License. New York you have to fill out a Handgun License Application to get a Handgun Purchase Authorization.
>>689393069
Well, that's no longer the case.
>>689398894
And here is the snowflake mentality again.
>>689398789
there's no such thing as a assault rifle. get your head out of your ass.
>>689398937
So you have never read the constitution... you don't know why these amendments are in place, yet you think you should have an opinion... You are too stupid to debate with.
>>689398341
Not hmwho you honk friendo. Just stating facts
>>689397242
>you have to register the firearm
Only in shit states like Jew York and Commiefornia.
