degeneracy
>>689322092
you're doing that thing where you're a narcissistic asshole again
i like you but like come on
>>689321908
>Since when I first laid my eyes on you.
Not in person I assume
>>689321706
>>689322363
He made David cry
>>689322407
Not that you would remember because you were asleep, darling.
>>689322363
why do you like him?
>>689322363
I am a narcissistic asshole. Openly. I am not sure why you like me if that is a problem.
>>689322618
Not impossible, just unlikely.
>>689322371
I'm actually just a ghost. It was spotted earlier
>>689322841
What makes you so certain?
>>689322618
big girls don't cry
>>689322619
because he has always been nice to me
>>689322650
see above
>>689323016
As far as I know, I have only ever ignored you.
>>689323016
always huh
>>689322650
An entertaining asshole.
>>689322841
Gotta be immortal and learn the universe in your journey.
>>689323200
I mean, I think so, that's not really a point of common agreement but hey.
this article is very comforting. it reminds me of bill hicks' standup, and, though it be more cliche, of buddhism.
>>689323105
i mean, for the most part that is pretty true
but when we have interacted it has been generally nice, like on steam and whatnot
granted it has probably been like two years
>>689323112
until about 10 minutes ago
>>689323490
he has probably never respected you and he probably never will, because he is psychopathic. i urge you to crosscheck this with him.
>>689323013
Lets just call it a hunch.
>>689323200
wat
>>689323490
I am much nicer on steam out of sheer social graces. I only post ~here~ for intellectual stimulation and tend not to find it. I did today, that was pleasant.
I don't remember ever talking to you on steam but I'm going to assume we have and I don't remember.
>>689323649
I have literally no opinion about him.
>>689323439
That's not the way I've ever heard it described, but I'll take it.
>>689323434
You dont detriment my life and actually are entertaining person.
>>689323762
Again, not a universal position. I make some people very uncomfortable. Dom, I'm not a psychopath.
>>689323722
If you say so....
>>689323722
Its okay im just at the bottom of the ocean where nothing exists. I tend to not make sense.
that's what a psychopath would say.
>>689323734
a single unified mind, divisible into smaller minds ad infinitum. it is comforting, it gives reason and purpose. though it is also just a more wordy way to describe the ageless stoner banality "what if your green isn't my green, duuuude?"
Coonnnnnnnfuuuuuuuuuuuseeeeeeeeeeeed
it's too bad eliza isn't here.
wait
is that MONSTER kitten?
>>689324004
That's not what you were intended to take from it, but you don't think like I do, indeed your green is nothing like my green, so it doesn't matter.
Psychopaths do not have empathy, I have empathy, I suppressed it a few years ago because it made my mind an unpleasant place to be but it still comes out, I cried when I read a tweet about the shooting earlier. I'm not sure why I'm trying to prove this to you. I would like to be a psychopath, it would absolve me of one of my greatest anxieties.
>>689324159
God you're dumb.
disney knows what they're doing
>>689323649
i think there was at least an iota of respect when i posted the doogals
also i do not think psychopath is an effective word, i would say more along the lines of sociopath with some sort of narcissistic personality disorder
not trying to be hateful or anything, just saying
>>689323734
>intellectual stimulation
>4chan
>/b/
>furry thread
lol there are better places to find intellectual stimulation, though in those places it is hard to have a holier-than-thou way of carrying yourself because you are not surrounded with a general population of imbeciles
that's why i don't go there, i would much rather feel superior
yes we used to talk a decent amount but like i said that was a hot minute ago, like 2+ years
>>689324276
yes hello this is dog.
IMAGE
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>>689323896
Really? I mean I could see that but im not one to turn and run from things im not okay with. Also you arent man. I share a lack of care for things around me.
>>689324276
>wait
>
>is that MONSTER kitten?
You can't be this slow, Jules Verne.....
that is dearest, loving luke.
>>689324276
what was i intended to take from it?
you are so literal and without comedy.
>>689324384
i was being facetious. i would never psychoanalyze someone
>>689324276
Sometimes
>>689324384
I have crawled all over the internet, sat in countless classrooms, attended endless lectures and presentations and debates.
This is the best place for intellectual stimulation. There are no taboos here which cannot be violated. That alone makes it the best. The relative quality of the people is one of its benefits.
I didn't realize you were monsterkitten. I still have no opinion of you. I don't remember what we talked about.
>>689324484
It didn't say monster in front of his name.
>>689324453
Well, you're not normal.
>>689324575
The general point I was making, that's all. Reality isn't a thing. That.
I tend to commit very heavily to registers. My register at the moment is not comic.
>>689324575
>dearest, loving luke
oh, you
the fuck am i reading?
>>689324383
moar judy hopps
there are a lot of very stoned sounding people in the comments section of this Donald Hoffman ted talk
>>689324784
why did you insist on that anyway? we were talking about the non-existence of objective morality and ethics.
>>689324806
well... i didn't want to say "possibly racist"
>>689324886
children pretending to know anything
>>689324982
>>689324784
I hope thats a good thing, I tend to get that alot. I just try not to care to only acknowledged things. After that its a choice if I care enough for it to affect my life. My rule is you can love people, just dont trust them.
>>689325084
>>689324784
>>689324276
>>689323896
how long have you been posting? i first saw you 7 years ago
>>689324982
Spiderman thread
I wish I could be Judy and have my cute bunny butt stuffed with Nick's foxdick...
>>689324784
well i guess i prefer stimulation in more hard subjects rather than softer ones
and that is understandable the name is pretty vague
>>689324986
o u c h
why
>>689325257
same honestly
cya later all
>>689324986
YOU were talking about the nonexistence of objective morality and ethics. I was talking about the nonexistence of objective anything, because you asked why I put more stock in something that didn't exist. If nothing exists, you might as well go with what you like, right?
>>689325094
I'm not normal.
>>689325205
Not that long. People have been posting with lackadaisy since before I got here.
>>689324886
Idk man im just an octopus at the bottom of the sea. Its dark and I cant see but I just know something beautiful is near.
>This is me saying nothing hoping its something
>>689325306
You showed up on the tail end of a conversation with dom about this and you now have the dubious honor of being the FOURTH person I link this to.
https://www.quantamagazine.org/20160421-the-evolutionary-argument-against-reality/?utm_content=buffer93e5a&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
The umpteenth TLDR is that what you perceive as a hard subject/science is not any more objective than any other topic, because nothing we perceive is accurate. The reasons why are contained within.
>>689324982
Spiderman thread confirmed
>>689325336
why is it always the same stuff though?
>>689325336
Well atleast we share something in common. Hopefully someone will visit in the ocean someday.
the reasons contained within are very specifically "because a scientist told you so." i would like to point out that there are many scientists telling many people different so's.
>>689325306
you say nigger too much, too much being "at all."
>>689325336
if nothing exists, why is there a you to like? it's all very complex, potentially unanswerable stuff with no tangible bearing on your existence, or non-existence as it were. you've chosen a ruff path.
i am actually leaving now.
>>689325492
i understand that i just mean hard in the scope of our perception
things we can manipulate, things we can use in our world because we have nothing else that /really/ matters outside the realm of abstract thought
>>689325257
>this is actually my deepest, darkest fantasy
Moar
>>689325546
I don't care about the images I post, they're just there for fluff. Used to be personality to them, that's mostly been dissolved in the rote practice of selecting one.
>>689325686
Well, "me" is the one thing that does exist.
>>689325712
It's a difference of interest field. I'm sure you're interested in something relatively abstract that you haven't pursued, though.
>>689325686
i do not think you understand that a good 95% of the things i say outside of serious conversation are said ironically
That's another topic of discussion. It's too bad Dom is leaving because I can argue racialist science for days.
daily reminder that spiderman posting is spam and should be reported
>>689325793
right, that's what i am saying
i am interested in vastly different things for sure
and i can appreciate the more abstract things, although i do not have a particular interest in debating or even really spending time on them, as i would rater use that time on something else
like i'm studying to be an engineer, which puts less emphasis on the concepts and abstractions themselves, and more on 'how can i make these things into an actual application'
but like i said i can definitely appreciate the deep and sincere interest some people have for the truly abstract
>>689324900
Here you go anon
>>689326342
I'm not interested in the truly abstract anyway. I'm interested in the moral and the philosophical, which are only abstract in that they can't be touched and felt in the real world. They are nonetheless applicable to humanity.
There is nothing to debate in engineering. It is a question of whether something works, or whether it does not work, or whether something else works more effectively. I cannot begin to care about that. It is too mechanically specific; it is bereft of meaning.
>>689324786
Lola is the original bunny queen and is 10× hotter
As someone that tends to just come for the porn and nothing else when I read the actual conversations you guys sound like a bunch of self-important narcissistic assholes circle jerking on pseudo-intellectualism.
>>689327025
"I'm a horny idiot with no contribution to make so I'm going to use the pseudo intellectual buzzword to feel good about myself"
I would try e621 unless you like jerking it to spiderman.
>>689327025
Seems to be the theme of most community based threads. But just take it as it is, the porn is nice. Night peoples.
>>689327155
>>689326997
Fuck ya Spidey thread
>>689326633
right, but that is why i like it
i am a man of definite answers, as boring as it may be, i like them and enjoy finding them
and again, while i can appreciate the subjects you mentioned, i would never be an effective scholar of them, because they simply do not fit me
>>689327025
you are not entirely wrong but >>689327155 pretty much said that better than i could have
>>689327155
I just don't see why furry porn is intermingled with philosophical discussion. I really don't.
>>689327241
>>689327373
Lola over hopps
>>689327410
I explained earlier why this place is good for philosophical discussion. It has nothing to do with furry porn, and there are better venues for furry porn anyway.
>>689327373
Right, I envy you the simplicity of a mind satisfied by solutions to definite problems instead of the densities of meaning. Or in other words, I still think you're dumber than me, will never NOT think that, and I'm way too grumpy at 4:20 in the morning to pretend to be polite right now.
>>689327594
i am genuinely curious about this guy's life
like, what led him to be so absolutely devoid of purpose that he decided to hop in a furry thread on 4chan at 4:00 AM and spam spider man pictures, while obviously still reading the posts in the thread and not just idly dumping with some program and a pass, as he responded to a post that did not even mention him with an eloquent "Fuck ya Spidey thread"
what is going on on his end
>>689327692
he is 15 and summer vacation has just started
>>689327692
>>689327641
Eh. Sometimes it's better than anything I find on my own. Other times it's fun to watch conversations.
>>689328017
> Other times it's fun to watch conversations.
Well then look at that, you're here for the same reason I am. Albeit as a voyeur, but besides that the only real difference is you have a different taste in topic. Thank you for demonstrating the potency of this medium as a social space rather than the digital equivalent of a fucking gloryhole.
>>689328240
Are you always this abrasive? I'd find it hard to make many friends with that attitude.
spiderman is an islamist and needs to be deported
>>689328379
Actually, no. I am very angry tonight and have gone out of the way to be hostile towards people I typically get along with.
>>689327641
that is understandable
you have different criteria for being intelligent than what i would say most people have
whereas most people would call intelligence, when it comes down to it, the ability to effectively take in the information our world gives and use that information in an efficient way to better navigate the world, you consider it the ability to think beyond the world itself and not simply be satisfied with what we are given and to let the mind wander
but i would argue that i am not dumber. i do understand that what we see is just our world filtered through our brains into whatever our consciousness is. i understand that nothing is how it seems, and all that jazz. i just do not care, because there is no way to really understand any of it because of the inherent limitations of being human
as such, i simply ignore it and enjoy life while i can until i die and, at which point, will probably have a better understanding of it all
of course my mind wonders to total abstraction (in the sense of intangibility) but i just do not dwell on it because, essentially, the questions cannot be answered.
>>689327822
that makes sense
>>689327873
is that what that smell is?
>>689328591
Don't you think that's incredibly childish and instead of merely accepting it you
should use that self-awareness to modify your behavior in lieu of continuing it?
>>689328757
I'm not going to argue with you over the definition of intelligence, because outside of semiobjective measures of IQ the definitions are pointless. The reason you do not dwell on the things I dwell on is because your brain is not like mine. That is without a value judgment.
With the value judgment, I think I'm smarter than you because my ego is the size of the sun. Almost nothing could make me stop thinking that.
>>689328786
Do you know what catharsis is?
>>689328757
>>689328967
Are you aware of the concept of emotional regulation? Because from what I can gather you just use being angry
as an excuse to act like an ass to people who'd do good by you because you know they'll sit down and accept it as "who you are."
You're not being cathartic, you're being childish and expecting others to go along with it.
Not trying to be hostile, however I am telling you my opinion.
>>689329114
>>689328967
i do not want to argue, i was just saying that they differ, and they are personal definitions that cannot be changed
and that's fair
i have ego problems as well but i internalize them and they only come out as shitty projections
>>689322090
LABEL YOUR THREADS CORRECTLY OR SPIDERMAN WILL MAKE AN APPEARANCE
FAGGOTS
>>689329381
I am pretty sure the text in the OP was a more than effective label. I am not sure what you want from me.
>>689328820
>>689329185
And you, my perfectly regulated friend, have never wallowed in vice? Your personhood is so perfectly coordinated that you have no need for a satisfying indulgence? I fucking doubt it. My capacity for emotional regulation is not on trial here, at least not from my perspective; I know how I behave. This is the venue wherein my rage is appropriate.
>>689329283
Perhaps you should try my method sometime.
>>689329482
Something that a filter can pick up on like your usual g/fur or whatever the fuck.
>>689329620
>>689329532
I wallow occasionally sure but I don't really think lashing out at people that you get along with is any sort of solution.
I'm not attacking your attitude I'm chastising your behavior.
>>689329786
>>689329793
I'm also reasonably confident they'll still like me tomorrow. Maybe not.
>>689329532
i am too much of a pussy
i do not like making enemies nor burning bridges, and actually have this issue where i am so agreeable of a person that i lose myself
i have tried to stop that lately but it is still there
>>689329064
Lola is better
>>689329882
Should their loyalty not constitute treating them better? Are they really deserving of your ire?
>>689329882
They will if you delete all your fur crap, derail fur threads, and cease starting any future fur threads.
If you can't, they'll hate you and so was unless you label your cancer properly.
>>689330083
>>689327641
"I'm too lazy/stupid to figure things out so I pretend that I'm simply not interested and those that are more capable of problem solving and thought processes that actually have real-world value are in fact inferior to me based on unmeasurable criteria"
Did I get that right?
>posting Lola
yeah i remember when i was 12
>>689329949
As I mentioned like 3 threads ago, I find weakness abhorrent. That said, I don't behave like the high poobah of all things in my daily life although I am rather assertive. This is reserved for the internet.
>>689329992
Irrelevant question. No, they're not. But I need an outlet.
>>689330110
I somehow doubt you're the demographic I'm referring to.
>>689330214
I'm very capable of solving real world problems, thank you. It's just not as fun for me as are the abstractions.
>>689327692
You must be new around here
>>689330249
>Unironically posting in a fur faggot thread
>Calling someone immature
>>689330301
Something isn't irrelevant just because you deem it so. It's perfectly relevant because it is not only on topic, but in relation to a previous statement.
Take up drawing. Ride a bike. Write gay ass fucking poetry or something.
The world isn't designed for you to throw temper tantrums at.
>>689330505
(he's a sociopath)
>>689330444
>>689330404
>>689330352
>>689330320
You did God's work anon. Cancer defeated.
Hopefully the autistic fucks will able their threads so our filters can pick up on them.
>Yiff in hell fur faggots
>>689330505
Actually since we're talking about my behavior I'm pretty much the ultimate arbiter of what's relevant or not.
I do actually have other hobbies.
>>689327594
Why not have both?
>>689330667
Key word:
>we
Yeah I think this is a joint discussion whether or not it's about how you're acting.
And why not use those as an outlet instead of shitting on your friends?
>>689330890
You were asking me questions about how I felt about my behavior, I'm free to determine what I think matters and what doesn't. In any case, playing guitar is not the greatest way to exercise the combative instinct, and there's nowhere to go shooting at 5 in the morning.
>>689331098
I was asking you questions that force you to reflect on your behavior.
Furthermore why are you up at 5 in the morning? Play a video game or something if you feel the need to be confrontational.
>>689331383
I've reflected on my behavior quite thoroughly, actually; it's one of my favorite topics. This in particular is a manifestation of the warrior instinct (perhaps the warrior gene, to make it truly biological) that I suspect I have based on my how I've acted throughout my entire life. I am unsatisfied without conflict on occasion, even the watered down conflict of an argument on the internet.
>>689331597
...Uhhh... huh...
Well alright that's... a thing I guess?
Either way blasting strangers on the internet is fine. My problem was with friends of yours.
>>689331740
See, and you thought I wasn't reflective. Anyway, my friends are a hardy sort, or I probably wouldn't be friends with them.
>>689331832
I never stated you weren't reflective. I may have suggested inconsiderate.
I guess I'm projecting and that's what caused my irritation. You remind me of someone I knew.
>>689332027
Oh I never said I was considerate. Something something marilyn monroe quote.
>>689332088
Well frankly you aren't.
But that's a difference between us. Or you and some people.
In a sense, I guess I should be thankful this gave me something to do.
>>689332304
David called me a sociopath earlier which isn't strictly true but my behavior more or less approximates it.
>>689332420
I don't know you well enough to confirm or deny it.
It's close, but probably not close enough to merit being explicitly sociopath in nature.
>>689332519
I'm not a sociopath clinically because I do actually feel empathy quite strongly but I tend to suppress it to pursue my interests. The distinction is irrelevant for people who interact with me, of course.
>>689332652
I think it'd be helpful if you exercised it more often. What interests do you pursue that require suppression of it?
Aside from childish arguing with strangers.
>>689332794
I suppress it because empathy is actually a source of great stress for me, if you can believe it.
>>689332933
I struggle to. As an empathetic person I feel you can regulate it responsibly enough to be conscious of when it's working and when it works against you.
For what reasons does it create so much stress?
Also apparently this is our thread now.
>>689332933
You and me both pal
>>689333075
It is, although I'm in the next one as well.
My rational mind discovered the irrelevance of morality. I was pursuing the question of morality because I felt other peoples' suffering too strongly. When I understood the ultimate infinity of suffering, I shoved empathy as deep as it could go to suppress the despair it inflicted on me.
>>689333169
What do you want to pursue in this world?
>>689333369
I've been asking myself that question for 15 years.
>>689333169
I'll probably stop posting after you stop replying.
I'm in between watching some old footage from a twitch stream and lounging.
The company has been nice though, even if most of it was argument based.
I don't think you should discard empathy. It's useful for a lot of reasons, most of them being emotional health ones.
>>689333417
My emotional health was worse when I held onto it, really. I'm much better just practicing social graces publicly and reveling in the excesses of my uncivilized soul privately, without much concern for the infinity of other people I can't possibly aid.
>>689333405
I guess we're both fucked then
>>689333518
Could always just limit it to your immediate friend groups instead of extending it endlessly. Although mine probably extends to strangers but only those I interact with and can relate to.
>>689333654
That's generally what I intend to do. It's not quite that simple, you realize.
>>689333760
Maybe it's just simple for me because I have that level of emotional control. I suppose I'm not being that considerate of how you experience it.
>>689333834
My rational mind informs my empathetic instinct, you see. Making moral determinations apply in a limited context is inherently hypocritical to that mind.
>>689333918
I think you might just be overthinking it maybe. Some things come naturally and don't require an over analysis of tiny factors.
>>689334194
You misunderstand. I don't have the option not to overthink.
>>689334371
How do you figure? Does it just overwhelm you it times?
That's a mark of cynics.
>>689334642
I think about everything I do, constantly.
>>689334702
Have you tried meditation? Not even trolling I'm being serious.
I didn't benefit from it but some people tend to.
>>689334797
I did, I found it boring.
>>689334837
I had the same experience.
I also couldn't take it seriously...
It seemed really like a giant joke.
>>689334927
Like many similar psychological finaglings, it will only be effective if you believe it will be. Skepticism is anathema to psychotherapy.
Goodnight.
>>689335023
Nice meeting you.
Good night.