The Orlando Pulse shooting was staged to help Donald Trump to win the upcoming election. Trump hired actors to make the shooting seem more realistic, and now people will now vote for him because he's more anti-mudslimes than Hillary Clinton.
>inb4 bait
>inb4 he can't do this
yes he can. He has billions of dollars. Enjoy your freedom, amerifats.
>>689225190
lol
>>689225190
damage control. You have failed.
>>689225190
>>689225190
it's not bait.
>whoever wrote this actually believes it
>>689226008
I do believe this, how is this so insane? Please tell me how this could be not possible. Trump has the power to do anything.
>>689226168
So he got 50 people to sacrifice their lives and 60 people to take a bullet.
I know your are trying to create a conversation but you have no evidence to support your theory.
Mostly, you seem like a dumb person trying to seem intelligent. You know you are not. I advise that you refrain from posting threads in the future.
The future President of the United States
Reported. Enjoy jail faggot
>>689227482
She's right though.
>>689227633
We in 1984 now?
>>689225190
yeah except it's actually going to hurt him faggot
>>689227482
yep this is true. what's your point?
>>689210069
Where did you go?
enjoy trump as ur persident amerifats
>>689227806
how would it hurt him?
>>689225190
Isn't it more likely that Trump is just running for president to stir up a storm and act like he's gonna win and get all the votes so that people will vote for Hillary instead? She would never win alone against Bern so he and she is in on it together, wall-street power. She gets to be president, he gets loaded and all the other benefits.
This attack is just a response to american over-seas politics or just a lone man against HBTQ
>>689228751
it's his ugly rhetoric that causes this shit.
this guy was a US citizen. trump has nothing to do with stopping this. nothing he claims to want to do address a minority population under fire from would-be presidents and entire political parties.
trump caused this shit.
>>689225190
Maybe if this guy was an immigrant but he wasn't.
>>689227673
>>689227922
Nahhh. You're cucked. Thanks for the whole white genocide thing. Great stuff, mates.
>>689229189
you wat? you're delusional shithead
So far, they don't have any confirmation of this guys motives. They don't know where he was born, they don't know if he was a lone nutter or he spoke with anyone, they don't know shit.
Already there are congressmen posting shit about 'eradicating radical Islam' and 'deporting the non-Americans' on Facebook. That's actual public figures using a tragady like this to push their cause without knowing if they have reason to.
Go right ahead and keep saying America doesn't have an irrational fear of Islam. The fact they're using the dead to push their agenda makes me sick.
Hey /b/tards, what state has a recount in 2000 for the Bush-Gore election again? I forgot
>>689229189
>cuck
Oh look it's this meem again.
>>689229498
yeah even if it was ISIS, the fear is silly. there are plenty of people and groups that want to kill people in the US. worrying abuot 1 of many is pretty fucking dumb.
>>689225190
Well this wins today's dumbest cunt award
>>689225190
Nouice b8 m8
>>689229609
You're cuck'd
>this meem again
>>689229498
yep check out this list
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/mass-shootings-timeline.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0
when this becomes predominantly muslim then we can start to fear muslims. right now it's a long way from it.
>>689230762
You're a cuck.
Does that make me right? Pretty sure that's how it works, going by the shite stormfags post.
>>689225190
Why would trump stage it with gays instead of conservative christians? Also, Barack Obama staged Newton to ban guns. It's the whole reason we cant buy guns anymore.
>>689231282
Good. Less guns are a good thing.
Know how many people would have died if there were no guns? None.
>>689225190
bait
>>689231424
Fool
>>689231576
Sooner be a safe fool than an armed nutter.
>>689225190
If you are in Orlando, please be safe and please donate blood if you can.
O+ and O- blood donors needed. Due to the shooting overnight, the hospital and blood bank is critically low right now for donated blood. If you are able, please go donate.
This valuable gift you can give is a direct way to help those injured from this tragic incident.
You're kidding right? I'm into conspiracy theories and even I think that's apeshit retarded.
Trump doesn't HAVE to pay muslims to commit atrocities - they do it literally every damn day.
And what do you mean "enjoy your freedom amerifats" - are you trying to be edgy because your women are being raped and children beaten in school by gangs of muslim invaders that your tax dollars are also paying for? Enjoy your genocide eurofag.
>>689225190
this whole thread is full of $hills
as a gay white caucasian i cant wait until the day i can unload a magazine into these sand niggers
>>689225190
Dude... You need mental help
>>689229530
>>689231424
>>689225190
I live in ocala about an hour and a half from Orlando.
I know a few people who made it out of there.
I'd believe it was a conspiracy if I didn't know people tho
>>689231424
Sure, in an imaginary world where guns didn't exist - no one would die by guns. Simple fact of the matter, whether you're for the second amendment or not - is that guns are already out there. In the millions. Millions are sold every year and they have been for the past hundred years. You truly are foolish when you say you are a "safe fool" when there are most certainly armed nutters in the world - whether you like it or not.
But put your head in the sand. Sheep pretending that wolves don't exist anymore.
>>689231743
Oh boy, someones been drinking the Kool-aid.
Muslims aren't your enemy. Terrorists might be, Muslims are not. It's exactly this sort of divisiveness that leads to violence like this.
If a guy walked into a Mosque and shot the place up, he'd be called mentally ill. This guy has not been proven to have any connections to ISIS. He's brown though, so of course the US media are already stirring up fear over 'MUH ISLAMISTS'.
>>689225190
>PrayersForOrlando
>Prayers
You got to be fucking shitting me. God isn't helping this, because he doens't exist. Do something, instead of just sitting on your fat ass and pray, pick up your guns and get fit.
You'll need it, because there is war to come. I'm not saying it as a threat, I'm saying it as my personal belief. There will be war.
>>689231928
hmmm...lets compare the populations of these countries and come up with a percentage....fag
I sure am happy that the muslim terrorist decided to use a gun this time instead of a bomb so that you libfags can latch onto that aspect of your brainwashed narrative instead of seeing the actual truth - Islam is a radical conservative religion that is worse now than Christianity ever was and it has no place in the modern world.
>>689232043
we have to watch people who are armed and dysfunctional, it's as simple as that. anyone who buys a gun should immediately get watched and vetted. any kind of anti-gov, religious extremism of any sort, psychosis, etc then we move in and remove the gun.
>>689225190
if trump actually planned to deport all muslims I would vote for him but he's just a dumb fat shit who can only talk
>>689228952
Not Trump, American foreign policy for the last 3 decades caused this.
>NVM that shit, clickbait!
>>689232357
the worst incident prior to this one was by a white man. why are you so afraid of muslims? mostly they're killing each other.
>>689231653
Dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery
>>689232412
he was a US citizen. what made him snap now? Trump
>>689231653
Then be a victim. I refuse to.
>>689232043
see
>>689231928
I live in the UK and I've never had to worry about getting shot. I know no body who knows anyone who's ever been shot at.
You put a lot of assumptions on my point of view. Forced country wide disarming would obviously have to go in line with stricter gun laws for the very reason you're mentioning.
>>689232384
Who are you going to vote instead, retard?
Vote for the BEST candidate, even though that candidate may suck.
>eurocurry concerning himself with US news
>needs to be concerned with being the replacement for the fuck goat at the local refugee camp
>>689232220
Here's the thing, keep claiming that the terrorists aren't muslims all you want when they proclaim themselves to be - sure, whatever. You're dumb.
But the real thing is, even the ones that aren't terrorists wanted to kill those gays. The ones who aren't terrorists shoot their daughters in the head because they say they want to go to school. The ones who aren't terrorists have sex with 10 year old boys - A LOT. Not a little bit. A LOT.
The ones who aren't terrorists are, by all reasonable civilized standards, incompatible with democracy, human rights, and everything you claim to be about when you're talking about your misguided liberal empathy and humankind bullshit. They hate all of that, statistically over 80% of them believe shariah law should be the rule of the land. I implore you to look into that.
>>689232521
>>689232603
I live in a country without guns and I'm free. I've never needed to defend myself with firearms. I'm not a victim, and I'm not a slave, so your arguments fall flat on their face.
>>689232628
i live in the US and i never had to worry about getting shot. still don't.
99.999999% of the people in this country never have to worry about it.
>>689225190
xD
Please, let this is become the official explanation on shite forums all over the intertubes for how/why this happened.
It's a Trump conspiracy to garner support for mudslime b&
>>689232811
>>689232628
i don't know anyone who's ever been shot at either.
>>689231928
More than 90% are self inflicted. Suicide. The others are in gun free zones.
>>689232628
usa has much higher population...therefore more killed by guns...its simple really
>>689232641
But anon, Bernie isn't in the race.
>>689232349
Not sure if this is bait... or literally a retard. England alone has a population of 53 million people, wales about 4 million. 35 to 9,848
Unless the U.S. population is around 10 billion people, your argument just miiiight have a hole in it.
>>689225190
As someone who lives in Orlando...
Go fuck yourself. I hope a Muslim rapes your mother.
>>689231424
Yeah. They're all immortal.
>Idiot
>>689232808
> They hate all of that, statistically over 80% of them believe shariah law
Someone's been reading a lot of propaganda. You're beyond help.
>>689225190
But Sandy Hook was real because it was a white male shooter.
Right?
>>689232569
Opinions change. I would watch out for Islamic preachers from Saudi Arabia. Europe already got problem with them. And the US and other western nations have fucked around in the middle-east and nations surrounding it for a century already.
Trump didn't cause this mentality, he wasn't the trigger, go be insane on reddit where people believe your every word.
>>689232810
i live in a country with guns and i'm free. i never had to defend myself with firearms. i never had a problem with a criminal. i'm not a victim and i'm not a slave.
i live in the US.
>>689233035
Oh wow, you really must be autistic if you take everything so literally.
>>689232912
318.9 million faggot
>>689232912
It would have to be 21 billion for those numbers to line up.
>>689231928
>implying that the freedom blasters didn't have an actual person pulling the trigger
>>689232810
What country?
>>689233067
trump's rhetoric, the stuff that he's been saying, the laying of blame on muslim US citizens is what causes this shit. Not trump directly, of course.
>>689232382
The point of the second amendment is that free humans have the basic right upon birth to overthrow corrupt governments.
I love how liberals believe the government is corrupt and needs to be changed - so your solution to that is to always give the government more power. Whether that's fiscally, through laws, or giving the government de facto right to defend its property while removing it from the average person.
>>689233117
>>689232878
>>689232811
Irrelevant, the argument was that you can only be safe and you can only be free with guns. Of course you can be safe and free with guns, but you can also get shot at. I know which I prefer.
>>689233253
Yes, and England and Wales with a population of approximately 60 million had 35 vs 9,484. Think...harder.
>>689233360
you cna't overthrow this corrupt government.
so until we can all own tanks and drones your argument is the argument of a fucking moron. give it up.
>>689233320
What's it like to watch other men creampie your wife?
>>689233210
You said it. Not me.
>>689232628
Those statistics are complete bullshit. Adjust for population, adjust for all violent crimes - for example you have way more knife related crimes specifically because you can't have firearms. In fact, removing niggers from america's crime rates and ours would be lower than yours.
That's the thing - you should be more concerned about your multiculturalism experiment that is forcing your crime rates through the roof. Soon you will have to deal with the same shit that we have to deal with, but i would argue that muslims are worse - because they're actively trying to commit genocide against you. While blacks in our country are mostly concerned with shooting each other in rates 4000x times higher than any other group.
>>689233579
i don't know why don't you tell me. you've been cucked out of your principles by an orange con artist.
>>689233320
He's mostly laid it on muslims from ABROAD. And the same with the illegal immigrants.
If they find that offensive they can go fuck a cactus for all I care.
>>689233463
Nah, these people actually believe all you'd need to bring about revolution these days is a shitty varmint rifle and a 9mm. They're completely removed from logic I swear.
>>689233270
Try 102 billion. 4,484 / 35 = 270 x 380 / 54
>>689233619
Don't know if retarded or trolling. Do you actually think I suggested everyone who's ever died was because of gun-violence, and all we'd need to do to live for ever is stop shooting each other?
>>689233436
not that far off faggot
>>689233360
Exactly, the TOOL used to overthrow the corrupt government is only relevant to the time the amendment was written. It could have easily been a sword or star trek plasma ray blaster.
>>689233043
>statistics from multiple third party sources of unrelated institutions and actual real life events
>propaganda
again, how many people have to die until you open your eyes?
>>689233285
wow, the shooter is flexible
>>689233285
Ohhhh shit, my sides
>>689233401
no the point is that using your own observations for an argument is dumb. i have never been shot at, never saw any sort of violent crime, never saw a gun that wasn't at a range or in the hands of police/military.
so by yuor logic both countries are the same.
>>689226168
Why are you so paranoid about Trump and not Hillary?
She managed to secure a presidential nomination despite being a known criminal
>Trump's a big meanie face
Hillary is a fucking criminal who lets people die
>>689233463
You're a fool if you think american troops would march into their own hometowns and start killing civilians - especially when those american troops almost all believe in the second amendment and want to change the country for the better.
Those people would be the first to overthrow a corrupt government.
>>689234068
this is nothing but right wing propaganda. you've been duped you dumb faggot and you're too stupid to realize.
it's as dumb as saying trump is hitler.
>>689233950
Go on, enlighten me. Show me that 80% of the largest religion on the planet are so similar that they can be grouped together to that degree.
Listen to yourself.
>>689227633
Tabs made me lol.
>>689234151
you start shooting at them to overthrow them and they will not hesitate to take your ass down. you're the fool.
if no shots are fired then you won't need a gun either you dumb faggot
>>689234166
Don't bother anon, it's like banging your head into a wall talking with Trump supporters. They're the first to say anyone else is brainwashed, then they'll lap up anything that might justify their hate, regardless of how true it might be.
If I had the money to pay some jihadist faggot arrange a mass shooting and point it at ISIS and in the meantime rise my votes in the president competition, I would do it.
>>689227478
The victims werent actors u moran
>>689234068
furthermore, a political opinion on Trump is nothing more than projection and speculation because he hasn't been a politician before. Hillary's record speaks for itself.
>>689225190
Didn't need this to sway me; was voting for trump anyway.
>>689234068
Over 2 million votes in California were not even counted, she won because she is a known criminal, willing to do anything it takes to get to power.
>>689232494
Worst incident in the world is still a white man. Anders Breivik killed 77 because he hated Muslims.
>>689233285
She deleted that tweet and apologized. Top kek
>>689234151
>Those people would be the first to overthrow a corrupt government.
So why do the populous need arming? Chop logic bud. If you don't need to fire a shot, you can't use that argument for owning guns.
>>689233285
hahahahahaha
>>689233675
>That's the thing - you should be more concerned about your multiculturalism experiment that is forcing your crime rates through the roof. Soon you will have to deal with the same shit that we have to deal with, but i would argue that muslims are worse - because they're actively trying to commit genocide against you. While blacks in our country are mostly concerned with shooting each other in rates 4000x times higher than any other group.
citation needed for this, sounds like you pulled it out your ass
>>689225190
>>689234571
hey dumbass, learn to math. a majority can be reached without counting every vote. don't make me break it down to sesame street level
>>689234068
Trump should be a criminal.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/12/nyregion/donald-trump-atlantic-city.html?_r=0
>>689234571
and somehow you think these are all sanders votes? it would logically be 56% or whatever of hillary votes just like the rest of the state.
you giant faggot
>>689232641
im going to vote at a state level then throw my presidential vote away to some third party candidate
>>689232641
well that certainly isn't trump anyway. he's not the best in any grouping.
At lest 50 people went to hell. so does this matter?
>>689231928
>9,484 people
>In one year
>As opposed to the millions currently living in the US, this is less than a fraction of the populace
10/10 bait brady, you win
>>689234175
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TAAw3oQvg
Answers the question "Is radicalism in the Muslim world a tiny minority phenomenon" All statistics are from pew research.
Now queue up the fbi and interpol terrorism statistics where 60,000 acts of terrorism were commited by muslims last year, next highest group was like 5000.
Think about it - even the ones that aren't beheading people are still cutting off women's clits and raping women. Do you think Shariah courts treat women fairly? A french waitress was just assault for serving alcohol to non muslims in france! like not even a week ago! 50 people were just murdered when a muslim church leader IN ORLANDO tweeted that they deserved it and we need more. All the facts are just plain in front of your eyes.
Now you show me some statistics.
That man scored a 50-1 score, that's two nukes, my boy
>>689225190
This proves it op
http://www.streamboobs.com/pieceofmoon/
>>689234840
2.5 million votes were uncounted.
Hillary got 2.1 million votes.
Sanders 1.6m.
Why bother voting when we can just speculate?
>>689234670
Your logic doesn't make sense. When did I say they wouldn't need to fire a shot? Also, firearms serve a purpose even when they are not fired. The government should fear the people.
>>689231743
Strong knowledge ofeurope
Trumpfag detected
>>689234790
Dear lord just fucking google it. I've been posting statisticsthis whole time and then tards like you just go "no you're wrong but I'm not actually knowledgeable about any of this."
>>689234670
God of sick of this orwell thought crime, maybe youll commit a crime with it bullshit. It's insanity. You can't have something because you might do something illegal with it. It doesn't even matter if you need it or not, the logic doesn't hold.
No cameras, cuz that will make it harder for people to make child porn. I mean when have you really NEEDED to take a picture anyway?
No knives, because you might decide to stab someone. Are you a chef? Only chefs need knives.
Jesus christ, this hyper left nonsense is so out of control. Restricting people on mights and maybes and justifying it with backwards dipshit logic.
>>689235443
why the fuck would you think they were all sanders votes that were uncounted? dumb fucker
>>689227768
>We Openly Preform Torture
>We Openly Spy and Leave Security Flaws to monitor everyone and everything and keep all that information secretly
>We Likely Have Encountered Aliens and keep denying it to the public
>We start wars all accross the world and then wonder "why us!?"
>We shit and rape all over this planet
>We Accept Corrupt As A Daily Way Of Life
>We Allow Corporations and Rich people to dictate to the rest of the World How to Love
We are well beyond 1984 my friend. Well beyond.
>>689225190
Caspere knew this
>>689235617
>can't prove me wrong
gitgud :3
>>689234585
Al qaida fucked up 3000 amerifats, get rekt americucks
people would have forgot about this by the time the election comes you idiot
>>689234790
I've given up arguing with these guys. His 'citation' was some Youtube channel and the argument that 'even the ones that aren't blowing themselves up are raping women and cutting of their clits'.
I don't think these people know what proper citation means. They post opinion to back up their opinion and then wonder why people stop responding sensibly.
When you're in a gay club and you hear "Allahu Akbar"
>>689235782
Stay salty, I never suggested any of that.
Orwell was far left. He opposed an armed populous. He'd hate you and everything you stood for.
>>689235782
all of those things have uses other than just killing people. guns don't.
>>689235095
wew.
Is it because he's a racist anon?
>>689236132
>doesn't post any statistics to back up his argument
>doesn't post a valid argument
Simply stating that I'm wrong doesn't make me wrong. gitgud. That youtube channel, was a youtube video that goes through the statistics and clearly cites them. Reading comprehension much?
>>689235870
I mean I agree 100%, but it was a joke about the guy who reported this thread to the FBI. Even now they're not full thought-police mode.
>>689225190
holy shit.
incredible that there's stupid assholes like you that are able to stand upright considering nothing more than your brain stem is functioning.
>>689231666
I would never help faggot
>it's the white man's fault muslims kill people.
>>689236290
Also ironic that the Trump camp's idolization of Drumpf is pretty close to the hate week vibe. It's all very big-brother.
Interesting theory anon...
>>689236419
no there are many reasons to not vote for him besides that silliness. he isn't racist.
>>689225190
Don't care if he was Muslim or white or Asian or Latino. Dude killed faggots which in my book its all good
>>689236727
>>689236544
check out the edge on these faggots
>>689231666
Satan's trips wtf
>>689235443
Cali doesn't matter for Hillary, even if Bernie wins it. The only ramification for losing the primary will be for future Democrat candidates, that's why she stayed there and started damage control.
>she clenched with New Jersey before Cali finished counting votes
>>689232220
>Mosque
Why would an "Islamist" shoot up a Mosque?
>>689236216
Fucking Kek
>>689236290
You did suggest that, with you 'you don't need it so you can't have it' rhetoric.
I don't care where orwell stood politically, his work was about government power and control; you're argument fits the bill and the appeal to authority nonsense you're pulling does nothing to disprove my point. There's a gaping hole in you're reasoning, I suggest you take a real hard look at it.
>>689233285
Fags deserve to die
>>689225190
Citation?
>>689225190
Yea I kinda figured that out. Note the timing of the shooting!
>>689231666
>>689231928
Yeah lets keep niggers and gang members alive instead of letting them kill each other
That will make society better
"religion of peace"
lmfao
>>689232220
>he'd be called mentally ill.
no, he would be called a perpetrator of a hate crime and crucified (no pun intended) in the media.
>>689236949
Its true.
I hate gays.
I hate being forced to by law to let mentally I'll people do as they pleased
I hate the fact that being gay goes against the law of nature and reproduction.
Im not trying to be edgy but if my truth hurts you by all means leave 4chan
>>689236327
Target shooting. Pest control.
Ever live on a farm? Think farmers have arms to kill people. Faggot.
Even ignoring the fact that you're wrong, that still isn't any justification to take them from everyone or limit them out of existence. Until a person uses it to murder a person, it isn't a murder weapon dipshit.
>>689237231
You put forward an argument on why you needed it. You then told me you didn't need it.
itt: brainwashed libs demanding someone else google something for them because they refuse to accept anything that doesn't fit their narrative while simultaneously not producing any sources, facts, or even basic arguments of their own. Somehow in their mind still holding the moral high ground even though being proved wrong over and over.
The worst part about this, is that these deaths are basically on Islam apologist's shoulders. People who refuse to accept it for what it so obviously is are causing more innocent people to be killed. You'll bash Christianity which hasn't caused half as much death carnage and human rights violations even at their most violent - HUNDREDS OF YEARS AGO, but apologize for muslims who identify as muslim who commit crimes in the name of allah because oh they're not real muslims. Get off your holier than thou bullshit and see who the real enemy is. An ideology that wants to strip rights and enslave women and rape boys and kill LGBT people somehow the "good guys" in your mind. I refuse to accept ANY ideology that preaches conservative hate speech and practices abhorrent crimes as part of their day to day culture.
>>689237267
/thread
MOTHERFUCKING /THREAD
>>689227673
>>689227922
I grew up in a Muslim household and I can say with authority that Islam is not peaceful.
>>689236666
Well in that case, seems like we just disagree politically, and you're not one of the bad ones. Apologies, just sick of the parroting. More power to you.
Solid quads.
>>689237492
And he'd never be called a terrorist, he'd never have his religion cited as the primary reason for his crime, they'd never be calls to evict all whites from America, they'd never be calls to burn all the churches and so on.
>>689237640
no one's talking about getting rid of them faggot. it's impossible. just watching every shit head edgelord who has one. put them all on lists, especially the ones that are only designed to kill large number of people. no farmer needs an assault rifle yuo faggot
"I killed fitty men"
>>689237789
I grew up in white household and I can say with authority that white people are not peaceful
>>689237789
even if i believe you who cares? lots of things and people aren't peaceful.
>>689237789
I grew up in a Latino household and I can say with authority that Latinos is not peaceful.
>>689237789
I grew up in a Christian household and I can tell you Christianity isn't peaceful.
I don't actually believe that, but if we're going on sentiment then my statement hold the same weight as yours. Should we evict all Muslims because of that? Should we cause war in Christian countries because of that? Of course not. Pull the other one.
>>689237789
I grew up in a gay household and I can say with authority that gayness is not peaceful.
>>689238001
They already are on lists. What's your point? Learn how the law actually works.
"assault rifle" is a term invented by liberals when confronted with something they don't understand. An assault rifle is no different from a normal rifle but with a different material for the stock.
>>689237985
yeah saying he's muslim is dumb. saying hillary is a cold blooded murderer is dumb. saying sanders is a communist... ok, that might be true.
there are plenty of reasons to not vote for any of them. you should do so on the policies and how much they align with your views.
i'm a republican and i cannot vote for trump. that's just my own personal alignment.
>>689237726
In this post:
The first paragraph is mostly true.
The second paragraph is satirical opinion.
>>689237789
I grew up in a crackhead household and I can say with authority that crack is not peaceful.
>>689238279
Call it what you want, it's still designed to kill.
Move all anger from Mexico to islam. Move wall from Mexico to around middle east. No one in. no one out. Deport islam to inside confines of wall.
>>689238033
Well statistically you are incorrect, and statistically he is correct. So while you are both using your personal experiences instead of statistics to frame all of your opinions, his just happen to match up with the reality of the world. Islam is inherently violent.
Trump didn't organize it. It actually was done by ISIS deliberately to benefit Trump, because they're all Trump supporters, too!
#TRUMPINTERNATIONAL
>>689235393
Shut up Abu
>>689238450
Some people need killing. Some people want to kill you. Pretending like these aren't both true doesn't change the fact that they are.
>>689237693
Read again. That wasn't an argument for why anyone needs it anon. I've never said that people need it. They don't have to need it. You're logic is ridiculous. I don't expect you or people like you to ever come around. Have fun advocating that we take things from people because ' I mean they don't really need them. I know best and they might maybe do something they shouldn't in the future.'
>>689238478
Just like Hitler tried with the Jews! That went so well, right?
It's this sort of mentality that lets fascists gain power.
>>689225190
Proof anon? Link? Source? Anything other than your own opinion to add to this OP?
>>689238295
i mean saying trump is racist, obama a muslim, sorry. not sure where some of the text went to
>>689225190
The only way liberals can handle their failure is to make up conspiracies.
>>689236216
Too soon m8
>>689237789
I grew up in a shit household and I can say with authority that poor people is not peaceful.
>>689238662
No one deserves killing, that's an opinion. Granted, my opinion is just that too; an opinion, but I'm not stating it as fact.
>>689237640
We have them for all of those reasons in the UK, however we're just stricter, and you have to prove that it's for a good reason. The murderers don't tend to be the ones with good reason to have a firearm (i.e teenagers, niggers) Correlation not causation, I know, but it's still a valid point.
good work killing of a few gays, less faggots in 4chan
>>689238738
what failures you dumb faggot? he was an american citizen.
>>689233285
fake as fuck
>>689237631
bait
>>689238791
I grew up in a incest household and I can say with authority that Incest is not peaceful.
>>689225190
>people who will argue against this
>same that said that obama faked sandy hook
>you're all fucking hypocrites
>>689238674
It worked great for hitler. He killed millions of them....
>>689237789
I grew up in a jewish household and i can say with authority that jews are not peaceful.
>liberals will actually do mental gymnastics like this so they don't have to acknowledge the real problem
Do you want to hear a real truth bomb?
Muslims are subhuman scum and need to be exterminated off the face of the earth.
They breed like rabbits and the problem is only going to get worse.
>>689238671
See, I can actually get on board with this argument. In an ideal world, anyone would be free to own anything, but as you pointed out, it's not an ideal world. When the stats show so clearly that events like this occur in countries like the US so often, I'd say there's arguments to be made for more strict gun laws.
Props for being the first person in this thread to pose a valid argument for owning guns. Remember this next time you suggest liberals won't listen.
>>689238662
you will never be able to stop someone who wants to kill you. you have no idea he does and then boom you're dead.
you're not going to be a real hero you dumb fat redneck. give up the dream. an hero? sure but you won't save anyone's life including your own.
guns should be used to protect your home and that's it. and if you buy
>>689239035
I grew up in a black horse dildo devotee household and I can say with authority that giant dildos going down your small anus is not peaceful.
I think we should go full cuba. Ban all religion and church's.
>>689237631
I agree
>>689226168
If you indeed believe this, you should at least think about your lack of sources. Trustworthy sources, not just deluded bullshit like this.
>and here I was thinking this was obvious satire
>He has billions of dollars
Where's all the fuckin videos? I want to see some of the carnage from what happened inside the club. Either the incident as it occurred or the aftermath of it. There has to be something out there.
>>689233117
Ameritard logic
>>689237789
I grew up in ass and the ass is not peaceful
>>689238001
>>689238450
Oh got it. You're 10 and have no idea what you're talking about.
There's virtually no difference between you're assault rifle meme and a regular rifle. Do you mean automatic weapons?
Beside the point anyway. I've proven that there's other uses for them than killing people. Keep ignoring reality I guess.
>'Designed to x'
Kill yourself. Still not a reason to restrict. People that own them legally aren't the ones doing the killings you're ass mad about.
>>689237789
i grew up in an italian household and i can tell you with authority that italians are not peacful.
>>689227478
Bumperino
>>689231928
This just in, country with WAY MORE fucking guns has more gun deaths. Holy shit what a revelation. Now lets compare base murder rates per capita instead of only gun deaths.
>>689239310
Why hate gays. They never did shit to anyone but wanna be gay. Who cares. Quit watching gay porn and you won't see it. Focus all hate on the true enemy. Islam
>>689238799
Sure it's opinion. It's my personal opinion that serial killers, rapists, people who gun down 50 people in the name of their religion - deserve killing. It's fine if you don't agree with that statement, but you disagreeing doesn't give you the right to take away my ability to defend myself.
>>689239248
You're dumb. I don't usually respond to arguments by name calling, but you didn't present a coherent argument. So I'll just state a fact, you're dumb. At least the other guy can put together sentences.
>>689237631
4chan is now BootyBrothers.org, you must be incensed daily kek
>>689238295
Understood anon, I agree with your reasoning 100%.
Taking off for the night. Have a good one.
>>689225190
You're all fucking cucks, you believe in a political system that brings people to power because of their financial status. It doesn't fucking matter if you vote Hillary or Trump, you're voting for people put there on financial basis, and that will be all they strive to achieve. You just sit and watch COMPANIES take control of your state. It's all fucking corruption by the standards of the rest of the world. But not for you americans, it's just good ol' fashioned lobbyism.
>>689239646
Still way higher than any european country with strict gun laws. Fair enough, the latino jungleniggers in south america are worse, but you guys are pretty bad too.
>>689239785
When was the last time you needed a gun to defend yourself? What situation would you need a gun for defense in a country without guns?
>>689239080
>implying your anecdotal evidence backed up by anonymity means anything
>>689239755
Prison rape doesn't count
>>689227673
LOL im from Yemen and me and my friends fucking hate people like you.
People here are fucking crazy and really believe that they will go to our heaven through these deeds. muslims are evil and brainwashed. SO FUCK YOU
Someone save our religion and stop this brainwashing
>>689239151
You mean just like you and your 67 cousins?
>>689239827
This.
'Don't look at us fucking you all for a buck, look at the TERRORISTS! THEY'RE COMING TO GET YOU, BE SCARED'
>>689231424
>less guns are good thing
>good that government sacrifices citizens with fake shootings to prove guns are bad
Sounds like we need more guns and less government
>>689237789
I grew up in a shark household and I can say with authority that sharks are not peaceful.
>>689240085
No, fuck you. Fuck you with a cactus.
You make me sad to live on this faggy ass planet.
>>689238033
>>689238159
>>689238265
>>689238435
>>689239080
>>689239590
This same fag is so tilted lol.
>>689239970
this
Where's all the fuckin videos? I want to see some of the carnage from what happened inside the club. Either the incident as it occurred or the aftermath of it. There has to be something out there.
>>689227922
>>689227673
Trolling or retarder?
>>689239827
>>689240230
Or how about no guns? No guns would mean no shootings, fake or otherwise, government sanctioned or not.
No guns when?
Sorry, but the fact of the matter is that the more guns per capita, the more gun deaths (and murders) per capita. The statistics show it to be true, and its both causation and correlation, not just the latter. America is in denial. The UK has guns, and yet per capita we have nearly no gun murders (or gun deaths) at all. Because you need to have a good reason to own one (as well as mental health checks, checks for links to extremism (read: no sandniggers allowed))
>>689239755
You have no idea how disgusting it look when two gay men are kissingnor holding hands. How fucking disgusting it look when gay men wear female clothing thinking they are hot. Fucking gays need to die. Let more do the same
>>689240276
>>689240381
Sure worked well for Paris.
>>689240381
Are you 12 or just retarded? You realize a world without guns is literally impossible at this point, right? You can't just make a wish and make all guns disappear from the world.
>>689240551
Chicago
>>689240276
Lol not really
>>689239755
Gays are disgusting,they go angst religion and science in the same time,only perk of Islam is extreme homophobia
>>689232007
I live in Gainesville and no wonder people over here say Ocala is just a bunch of townie retards.
>>689237631
Well I'm gay, and you know what? I don't care. I want equality, not people to like me. I wanna beat people like you in lawmaking, but that's it. You can keep hating gays-- it doesn't hurt anyone.
... Maybe this is a bad thread to say that.
>>689240476
Yeah but gays>sandniggers. Sandniggers are lower down the people-to-hate-chain, so gays can kill them but not the other way round.
>>689226007
mister bond.
>>689238015
UNDERRATED FUCKING POST
MY SIDES ARE IN ORBIT
>>689238806
It's really not. But alright.
It's the same way here in the US. You can't just walk into a store and buy a handgun and some automatic weapons. I'm trying to get a pistol permit, so I can target shoot with my ex-military grandfather. The red tape involved is beyond anything I've ever seen. There's huge waiting periods, background checks, you have to have multiple character references that can't be related to you or each other, finger printing, multiple rather large fees etc etc. Anything automatic is worse. Not to mention, where I live, there are magazine size limitations and you can't buy more than a few rounds at a time. Which basically means more waiting because if you want to target shoot for an hour you need weeks worth of ammunition.
It's absurd that people think more needs to happen because I 'could' commit a crime with it.
>>689240492
0/10 photoshop
>>689232281
Lol. The edge hurts
>>689240276
Fucking off yourself.
>>689239970
Never. I've never needed to use the fire extinguisher in my kitchen either.
What situation would I need a gun for defense in a country without guns? (assuming countries without guns exist, they don't) How about the very unlikely circumstance of a knife. Or the, very unlikely how could this be possible circumstance of, someone just being bigger than me? Firearms are the great equalizer after all. They allow even cucks like you to defend your wife/gf, home, property and person to defend themselves.
>>689240635
idealistic=/=retarded
If you don't understand why someone might want to go to extremes for the sake of making a point, I don't think you should be entering into any kind of debate.
>>689240276
I grew up in a brazilian household and I can say with authority that zika virus is not peaceful.
>>689240804
30 second in paint. Try again.
>>689226168
>Trump has the power to do anything.
What is it with you liberal cucks thinking this guy is more god like than his supporters do?
>>689239151
AAAAH MY SOUL
>>689240476
that only means you're gay you dumb fag. suck a dick, yuo'll feel better
>>689240964
fuck you you lanky motherfucker
>>689240551
I have a question, the bar in Orlando is a gay bar, so all french are gay, so why this let me think those attacks are antitolerance terrorism?
I'm on a political level against you idiots arming yourselves because you're afraid of everyone else arming themselves, because they're afraid of the next nigger arming themselves...... On the other hand, seeing you americans kill eachother is pretty nice, less of you roaches to bring war on the rest of us.
But, let's face it, this could not have been stopped by gun control. Why? Because the shooter was a fucking terrorist, closing your borders or taking away guns won't do shit about someone entering the country covertly and using guns without any intent of coming out of it alive. Gun control would, with time, lower black on black violence with lethal outcome, it would lessen accidental shootings, and it would stop you faggots from being so fucking paranoid. But you won't agree to it, because you're too paranoid. Good riddance.
>>689240905
They also allow people to walk into a club and kill 50.
You run into a guy with a knife, that's one life lost. How many lives are lost through shootings outside of self defense?
>>689240964
You seem tilted
>>689241036
>>689240772
You know that you have a mental illness like pedophiles . you know that your perversions are disgusting in any law of nature. Why weren't you in that club, 4 chan would of been better with less trap threads
>>689241144
You're a dumb fuck if you think I was being tilted
>>689240906
There's a difference between going to extremes and talking pure fantasy. If all you can bring to a debate is completely unrealistic scenarios, then what the fuck is the point? If you wanna talk about banning guns, you can do that. Making them completely disappear? That'll never happen, so what's the point of discussing it?
>>689232281
And a overweight weeb saved humanity and gays from Muslim......u r an hero,act pike one pls do
>>689241208
There is literally nothing wrong with trap threads.
>>689241239
Confirmed tilted
>>689240801
Yes, but in the US you can then wander around with it in your handbag. Can't do that here. If you're carrying a shotgun (one of the only guns you can get a permit for fairly easily, due to their many uses) it has to be in a visible gun bag, youve got to go straight A to B and you've got to have a valid reason to be carrying it from A to B. Same with Air rifles.
>>689241301
Think you missed the point, anon.
>>689225190
>>689240784
Na mudslimes> gays. Gays are so whinny and useless
>>689241239
this fag fell for the bait
>>689234790
Oh fuck i see shrek un the left green icecream ball o.o
>>689241341
You are tilted.
>>689227633
What exactly is an old man cuck dildo anyways?
For research purposes, of course.
>>689239169
Will do. I appreciate you're willingness to listen.
I don't mind gun control, my issue is that there's already plenty. In my experience the people that argue for more have never tried to get a permit. It's incredibly difficult and expensive. I'd be interested in seeing crime stats - how much of the gun crime is committed by people who own them legally vs how much is people that have gotten there hands on an illegal one. I suspect that the majority of people who commit crimes with guns are already not bothering with the controlled and limited parts, but are probably going to an illegal vendor to pick up unmodified magazines, unregistered automatic weapons, and bulk rounds.
>>689240635
No but you can stop selling assault rifles. Who the fuck needs them? Yeah Yeah 5th amendment bullshit. Doesn't float. Sell gun expect people to shoot each other.
>>689241455
Sort of like /pol/tards?
>>689225190
>>689225190
i will enjoy my freedom because im a white hetero male....
>>689232912
Also take into consideration how America allows guns you fucking retard. No shit they'll have more murders in the guns category. I wonder how many deaths England has from knives a year.
Any videos or pics from inside the club? Anything?
>>689241553
There is literally nothing wrong with /pol/.
>>689240381
right, because criminals obey laws and won't acquire firearms anyways
>>689241208
Don't drag us into this
>>689240476
Something is disgusting to everyone u shit head edgelord. I think gingers are disgusting. Don't think they deserve to die.
>>689241514
It's too late you already made a fool of yourself.
>>689240905
You don't see the point. If you shoot someone, they're fucking dead. At least that's what I hope you intend to do when you shoot someone. What you're missing is that people are a lot less prone to using lethal force if their own lives are not at stake. If you're car's getting jacked and you reach for the glove compartment you'll have your brains splattered all over the inside of your windshield. In a country without guns you lose your car, which will be covered by insurance. And a police force that doesn't have to assume that every single person they meet have the ability to end their lives in the blink of an eye. How the fuck do you not see this?
>>689241111
But it's MY life that would be lost.
In an active shooter event I would personally want a firearm. Making all guns disappear is an impossible dream.
Hell, everything that makes headlines in Trumps campaign is probably payed for by trump. He has he money to stage it all. It'd be brillant if he did. Just like Hilary paying for the trolls on social media. I'm damn sure trump has his own people for that.
>>689241208 you do realise that sexuality is beyond reproduction? homosexuality is pretty common in nature
>>689240905
and that's fine. but if you want to get a gun be prepared to undergo rigorous psychological testing and going on a watch list so that you're the first person checked when a crime is commited with the caliber of gun you own.
you should have zero problem with that.
>>689241640
/pol/ is the worst thing to ever happen to 4chan. It's broke quarantine more than /mlp/, it's user base is more retarded than any board I've ever know, it caused moot to fuck off, and it wasn't even a joke like /fur/
>>689231928
90 percent of the U.S. gun murders were nigger on nigger killings. Chimp murders don't count.
>>689241711
99.9999999% of the people in the US will never, ever be in this position. so stop being so fucking afraid you faggot.
>>689241692
>making a fool of yourself on an anonymous board.
Kek.
>>689241618
Still far less (per capita, as well as total numbers)
>>689241674
Gingers take you souls while gays don't have souls. Anyways gays are disgusting.
>>689241914
>thinking this is an anonymous board
>>689225190
The sandnigger was killing faggots... he did nothing wrong in the eyes of God because being a faggot is a mental illness and a sin. It even says in the bible if you are man and lay with another man you will surely die. Sin can't run rampant forever....
That being said? TRUMP FOR PRESIDENT!!! HE WILL REMOVE THE MUSLIMS FROM OUR COUNTRY AND MAKE IT SAFE AGAIN!!
>>689241653
Criminals have no reason to shoot you unless you carry a gun. Do you honestly think someone's going to risk lifetime in jail for murdering you because you wouldn't hand them your phone? If they know you might pack heat, of fucking course they will too. If it's illegal, it's pretty fucking easy to spot the criminal niggers that you'll ever get in trouble with.
>guns make petty thieves and burglars carry
>>689241711
But getting rid of as many guns as possible will help. Example Australia.
>>689241891
The entire US political system is based on fear. Anons like you find in this thread are the result. You can't blame them, no matter how obviously retarded they are to normal people.
>>689239965
The main problem with that comparison is that the population difference between the US and any European country is massive. And the US is far more ethnically diverse which inevitably creates more conflict.
>>689226168
You libs said the same about W. He was a dunce, retard, talked funny, an idiot, yet was smart enough to mastermind 9/11. Now we have Trump who is a retard, kook, moron, yet can mastermind this level of conspiracy. Make up your minds already.
>>689241725
No its not. Keep pushing stupid facts like NRA bastards do. Gayness in nature is a mutation that kills off a species
>>689241694
I understand your point. You're arguing that we live in a dangerous world and owning a firearm makes it more dangerous.
I'm arguing that I deserve a right to be dangerous should my life be threatened. I'm also arguing that you don't deserve the ability to remove other people's rights based on your opinions.
>>689227478
or he just paid off some dude to go nuts with a gun in a gay bar.
>>689241725
>Thinking there's more to sexuality than reproduction.
Are you literally a retard?
>>689241547
exactly. we do not need to be selling assault rifles. it's only the gun industry, the ones making millions off this shit, that want it to go on. everytime there is a shooting their gun sales go through the roof because of fat wannabe heroes and paranoid edgelords who think all guns will be taken off the shelves.
>>689242075
What the fuck are you even getting at nigger? It's an anonymous board. You don't know the fuck i am. So go off yourself.
>>689242154
/thread
no one is taking away guns
you just need to be registered and have a license to have one.
and prove your cognitively able to own one.
>>689241406
Hahah! What?!
The permit for that is even more ridiculous. Where I live, and in all major cities in the area, you can't do that unless you're job requires it. You can only carry a shotgun around, it has to be unconcealed, you have to have the same reason, and you have to have a hunting permit.
I forgot to mention, that even if you meet all the criteria, have glowing references, pay all the fees, and pass the checks, you can still be denied the permit to own for no reason.
There are separate permits and application processes for own, carry, and concealed carry. Everything I listed was just for the regular own license.
See this is what I mean when I say that a lot of the people who want more restrictions haven't actually experienced what it's like to try for one or don't know what's allowed.
>>689242133
This is the saddest trolling attempt in 4chan history. Are you the same shitfucker that posts the threads about god with the chick from Neverending Story?
>>689242157
Not really, Europe is being overrun by sand nigs, pakis, and nigs. Soon it'll be worse than the US. Europe will dissapears in 50 years. As a euro, it pains me, but thats the reality.
>>689242004
No one ever said gays are not gross. They are vile. But who gives a shit. My dog humps other dude dogs non stop. Is my doggers gay? Should I kill him? No. Should you get islam out of America? Yes.
>>689242281
So titled
>>689242202
No anon he is gay. He has a mental illness that makes him believe that liking someone in the same sex as his is a correct direction for the human species v
>>689242202
sheltered little prick
>>689242399
>Implying you can pinpoint the same person in two different areas on an anonymous board.
Kek.
>>689241891
I find it funny when libs accuse conservatives of being afraid. When I can survive with nothing but my own two hands in the wild and wouldn't lose a wink of sleep if I murdered a man who deserved it. Having a firearm is the opposite of being afraid.
Now, liberal friend who comes from a party that actively supports safe spaces and believing the government is corrupt while also simultaneously believing the government should be the only ones who have the right to use firearms and kill. Who is more afraid? Go segregate some more college campuses or something.
>>689242133
In my town a guy was shot because he was walking funny.
>>689232412
Cenk is literally cumming buckets over you. Keep fighting the good fight comrade.
>>689242157
How do none of you understand the concept of gun murders PER CAPITA. The statistics are scaled to the population. UK 35 deaths in 65 million, US 9800 deaths in 317 million... Do the maths and you get 0.0005% of the UK pop killed by guns, 0.003% of the US pop killed by guns. That's a fucking huuuuge difference. Do they teach you yanks how to analyse statistics or nah?
>>689241208
Yeah yeah yeah, sure.
>>689242509
>being this triggered over reality
>>689242281
and he's rustled
>>689242512
neo-4chan is real. What a time to be alive.
>>689242435
You should kill him. Your dog is a mutation that in nature would of died at birth
>>689242284
>>689242154
>>689241891
I suggest you read the other arguments in the thread. Not all of them are fear based, and not all of them have flawed reasoning. It doesn't pay to focus on a subset.
http://newsthump.com/2015/11/28/good-guy-with-a-gun-fails-to-prevent-2708th-successive-mass-shooting/
>>689242470
No other animal thinks of the strength of the 'species' as a whole other than humans with an engineering complex.
>>689242297
exactly. and if shit starts happening, if you start showing up on watch lists and shit, the government will have to intervene before you do something dumb.
a shootout with the police is preferable to killing unarmed people.
>>689242153
It simply wouldn't work like it did in australia. America wouldn't give up the second amendment without a fight. In fact the constitution allows the murdering of all politicians should they try to do that. At the very least, it would be a bloodbath on both sides.
>>689242672
Yeah he's super rustled isn't he?
>>689242512
>implying
I merely asked a question to legitimately determine if you are that same anon. Nice try, nigger
