How retarded do you have to be to still believe in sky fairies after 400 years of scientific advancement?
This level of retardation seems strong in Ameritards.
>>688888782
Well i believe in extraterrestrials, same thing?
>>688888782
Fun facts:
>1. Christianity, Islam and Judaism basically all believe the same things and all endorse racism,sexism, homophobia, slavery and genocide.
>2. Unless the Babylonian gods are divine, the basic morality taught by these religions was already being taught without god. Most people don't want themselves or those they care about killed, hurt or robbed.
>3. There is little corroborating historical evidence jesus existed and none that he was magical. This is not to say jesus didn't exist, most historians acknowledge that Jesus was a real prophet. However, while most people don't have a historical record, someone who walked on water and made the blind see would have.
>4. While Jesus had a good message, it was not original or particularly insightful. Love thy neighbor is common sense and was a common theme for prophets at the time.
>5. Jesus did not renounce any part of the OT. Instead he endorsed it. Matthew 5:17-19
>6. According to the bible Jesus's reason for becoming man was the fulfillment of the OT prophecy and the forgiveness of sins. Without the OT there is no need for Jesus to be made man. Also, without the OT virtually nothing is a sin since what are sins are found in the OT.
>7. The bible codifies archaic morality of 2500 years ago. The fact that most Christians don't agree with the bible's teachings regarding slavery and women being property, speaks about mankind's ability to evolve morality and against religion's effectiveness at teaching it.
>8. Christianity, Judaism and Islam all make scientific claims which have been disproven. All of these religions have a history of persecuting those who disprove these claims.
>>688890602
Probably because Europe dumped all its genetic junk over there.
I mean, sky fairies are real as fuck.
But yeah, the religions are a bunch of self serving lunacy, written by humans to make themselves feel good about their place in the universe. God's chosen! The best animals in creation. Good job!
>>688888782
lol op hass never seen a sky fairy. just cause you don't have a soul and the universe couldn't give two fucks about your decaying corpse doesn't mean the rest of us are as bad off as you.
>>688890711
Not really. We have already discovered hundreds of exoplanets. Why should we be the only life about? Not to say any have visited here though.
>>688890569
MODS
>>688891092
Being this in denial.
Science has yet to explain how we got here in the first place. BIG BANG THEORY...where did the matter come from?
>>688891092
We're all the same "bad off". We die and our atoms eventually get recycled. There is no soul. Why do you need to invent bullshit to make yourself feel special, Do you really have that low a level of self esteem?
>>688891104
I seen a ufo about 10 years ago. Thats why I believe they visit us. Zoo hypothesis kinda thing
>>688890746
im a retard but is OT old testament ?
>>688891364
The faster you process data, the slower the universe appears to be moving from your perspective. The slower you process data, the faster the universe appears to be moving from your perspective. If you end processing data (die) then the universe appears to move infinitely fast. In an infinite amount of time, the odds that you will eventually perceive a reality in which you are no longer dead is 100%.
Done. The probability that you exist is always 100%.
>>688891673
Yep
>>688891364
Just because YOU don't understand something doesn't mean the rest of us are wilfully ignorant. Matter and energy are the same thing, interchangeable. Plug that into your elementary school understanding of Big Bang Theory and see where it gets you.
>>688890746
Nigga, for having a triple digit IQ and a fedora, straight up lying seems pretty low.
>>688891890
How am I lying?
>>688891445
Dude. HOLY SHIT. It's NOT that hard. Your soul is your software. Your body is your hardware.
You don't fucking open up your computer, start picking apart the hard drive and say "Omg! There's no bits and bites in here. Only electrons and protons, what the fuck?"
>>688892111
Most of that was just exagerated and wrong. Aside from that fancy part about the three judeo religions being similar. Considering they all came from judaism, it is just speaking to the ignorant.
>>688892219
But we can produce evidence for software we can not produce evidence for the soul
>>688892219
That sort of horse shit exactly illustrates the point of the OP. We have a very clear understanding of the physical and chemical processes that go into thinking and the ways we process information. Soul does not feature in this unless you are FUCKING stupid.
>>688892219
And I'm not done yet.
For like, thoooousands of years, people have been explaining this concept. They used the mouth noise that goes "sooul." But only until you piece of shit, garbage ass drones who call yourselves intelligent but only ever just rip off other thinkers' works managed to cobble together electronic computers did you ever have the metaphor to describe the difference between the body and the soul. And that part's done.
You know what a soul is. It's your god damned, mother fucking personality. It's the sum, aggregate knowledge of your entire existence. It has 0 mass. It's not a fundamental particle, and it exists, you worthless braindead zombie. It's the 21st fucking century. You're typing on a machine designed to emulate the difference between the body and the soul.
You have no excuse to pretend you don't know what this shit is already.
>>688892453
>says I'm wrong
>can't point out how
>>688892219
and if that computer gets burned up in a fire, does it's software still exist somewhere? Nope. It was just information organized and stored by storage that no longer exists. All that data is irreversibly lost for all time.
>>688892453
Just because your pastor never told you all the bad shit in the Bible while he fleeced you doesn't mean it isn't there. It astounds me how little religious people actually know about their holy texts. Perhaps you should read them some time. Or even better, read a science book.
>>688892724
>Says you're right
>Can't prove how
Come on nigger, I brought up a valid point and you immediately called me mad. You have definately not studied that copypasta, you just believed what you saw. I'm not even saying there is a god, I'm just pointing out that those points are skewed and biased propaganda for the anti religion circle jerk of yesteryear.
>>688893076
Bad shit like jesus existing. mkay.
Just saying though, that isn't a list of "le evil religion things", It's a list of religion bashing arguements.
What did we EVER do before 400 years ago whdn science started
>>688892763
Nope. I already explained that one.
As the computers processing rate approaches zero, the internal model it has of the universe speeds up infinitely fast. The more time it takes for the computer to cycle once, the more time has passed since it cycles once. I can't state that any more clearly.
As its cycle approaches zero, it perceives a universe in which an infinite amount of time is passing during one cycle. Within this infinite amount of time, the probability of a frame of perception which seamlessly fits the next moment in 100%.
It's not a hard concept. The burning computer sees a different set of perceptions than the people who see the burning computer. You don't have to be a fucking mystic to understand this shit.
the only reason religions still exists is because of child indoctrination. very young children are presented a particular worldview from their parents and because they trust them they accept it. religion would not exist if not for literally brainwashing children. its the only way to get people to abandon logic completely
>>688892724
And fyi, saved.
Scientific advancement won't get us anywhere without the love of God.
>>688888782
Extremely retarded.
>>688892219
souls dont exist, i can say that because there has never been a single shred of an actual reason to believe that they could. souls are as likely to exist as a gigantic flying invisable cock in the sky, there has never and will never be a single piece of evidence to suggest that it is a possibly and thusly can be thrown out as a theory. you have been conditioned to believe that logic is not the be all end all determiner of weather or not something exists and it absolutely is. we have nothing without empirical observation. there is nothing about souls that is true or factual or observable or remotely possible in any way.
>>688893905
You really can't say that there won't ever be evidence of a soul, unless you can empirically prove it doesn't exist. That's the beautiful gray area that causes legal trouble. Once someone makes a claim, it's on the table unless it can be proven wrong.
>>688893645
says the indoctrinated child who willingly throws away logic in favor of a convenient lie. there is literally nothing, not a single actual reason to believe that your god exists or that any gods have any possibility of existing. you have fed a false worldview from your parents and insist that it is the truth, but because there is zero evidence supporting that worldview we can discard it as nonsense. this is the way the world works, if you cant support a theory with evidence it is discardable.
>>688893336
Rather than claiming these are religion bashing arguments or propaganda, why don't you actually attempt to address them. Do you deny that the Bible endorses rape, murder, genocide, slavery, incest, child killing and not wearing clothes of mixed fabrics, or are you just a cherry picker?
>>688894250
Calm down Vegeta
>>688894179
false its not on the table without evidence first.
see "burden of proof"
>>688894179
sorry but we know that consciousness is just an illusion created by a series of electrochemical impulses firing in the brain, there is no reason to believe souls exist. yes i cannot prove that sould will never have any evidence attributed to the theory for them existing but there never has been and 99.99% repeating chance that there never will be, just like there is no chance that we will ever be able to prove that a giant flying cock in the sky exists because "technically everything is possibly in theory" because 99.999999% repeating is not 100%. there is still literally no reason to believe that that reality is true and so we discard the sentiment like we discard anything else that has no proof of existence. mainstream religion has fed you lies and you believe them because you do not care about logic.
>>688894179
Typical religiotard misunderstanding of logic. You can never prove that something doesn't exist, that is the black swan fallacy. However, the burden of proof lies with those that claim something does exist. What evidence do you have that a soul exists? The default position is to not believe something until sufficient evidence for it has been provided.
>>688893737
Extremely ignorant and probably more autistic than they can perceive.
>>688888782
Psychologically damaged for sure OP. Its a way of feeling superiority without all the hard work of being superior
>>688893422
I hate retards that say 100% theoretical shit as if its proven fact. Ones that act like their guess should be common knowledge are especially slow
>>688888782
How retarded do you have to be to claim to know for a fact the answer to something that cannot be known? Lookin' kinda retarded there, OP. I'd try to ease back on that.
>>688894655
Whilst I agree with what you have written, I would point out that mathematically 99.999999 repeating IS the same as 100.
>>688894980
p.s.
Protip - Being humble about your beliefs will make people hate your fucking guts a lot less. Looking at people like OP
>>688894980
At what point did I claim to know for a fact anything? Perhaps you should work on your basic English comprehension. If you have some solid evidence for the sky fairy present it.
>>688893118
I actually wrote that copy pasta so...
>>688895496
What beliefs? I'm an atheist, i don't believe in Gods because there is and never has been any evidence for their existence. And yet I live in a world where people kill in he name of their fantasies, or want to teach kids bullshit in science lessons, or deny women their rights, and you talk to me about humility?
>>688895626
>How retarded do you have to be to still believe in sky fairies
You're right, you didn't claim it for a fact, but you sure acted like a tard. I'm not even religious, antireligious actually. I just fucking hate it when people talk down to others for anything to do with their beliefs.
>>688894288
Endorse is a biased word. All these things are addressed, But not all are "endorsed".
I'll run down the line for you though.
Rape: This was a society and time of arranged marriages, so basically all sex was rape by that definition. The only"condoned" instances of rape were when warriors took wives from conquered territories.
Murder: It's called war. You can call the death penelty murder as well, but the logic behind it is rhat someone has commited a crime to heinous for mortal man to judge, so they are sent to god, also to prevent their across from reoccurring.
Genocide: War. If you believed there was a society of pure evil, the logical thing to do is defend against them by purging the whole lot of them.
Slavery: It's a punishment. Not a random action of greed.
Child Killing: Once again, possibly included in the purging of evil, but I'm sure the tribulation of the Egyptians was in mind. Considering religion generally looks on death as a rebirth, there should be no sorrow in a child's death since they would, as an innocent being, go to heaven.
Cloths of mixed fabrics: I don't even care about this. Bash it if you please lol.
I'll add that this was all in the old testement and was directed at the tribes of Isreal exclusively. Most of it was survival in an archaic society filed with conquest and evil across the board. But as always, context is everything.
>>688896277
I've got no problems with a God. It's religion that is a monster that needs to be eliminated.
>>688894179
what is burden of proof
>>688894729
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>>688894655
Calm down you fucking jackasses. I literally, NOT FUCKING ONCE, said that souls exist. I said you can't say it will never be discovered unless there is proof it doesn't exist. I can claim anything, it is only opinion saying that it is or isn't true. Keep scientific arguements to scientific topics. Would you start running over all lifeforms on earth if i claimed the flying spaghetti monster was real? No. You would just disagree.
>>688896818
What is opinion.
See >>688897203
Think of the moment when the love of God was scorned in favour of scientific advancement
Look at the state of the world now
Checkmate atheists.
>>688893422
i like your theory anon
but its still a theory and we got a lotta dose
>>688896462
Surely they are endorsed if God specifically commands them, or if they are presented uncritically.
Rape. How about when Lot's daughters incestuously drug rape him. This is not presented as being in any way morally incorrect.
God is immoral, probably the most evil character in all fiction. It's no good claiming things were different back then and from their perspective slavery and murder and genocide were ok. Has God changed his mind, or did we just become more enlightened?
You dismiss the cloth of mixed fabrics as unimportant, which of course you should, but it was there to illustrate how ridiculous all these laws and commandments are. People who base their homophobia or opposition to abortion (which the Bible does endorse!) based on holy texts whilst ignoring anything inconvenient are ridiculous.
>>688897459
Was this before or after the wars of reformation?
>>688888782
Why would GOD care about any of us anyway? Nah, He blessed America because It's pure, while Africa is Satan's land anyway
>>688897459
You mean where life expectancy is doubled or more, infant mortality slashed, diseases cured or controlled. Not sure where the checkmate is there. Almost all of the terrible things that happen in the world have religion somewhere at their base.
>>688898665
stay mad sciencecuck
>>688888782
nice thread opie
>>688898538
I have to assume that your are trolling, because no-one with the ability to use a computer could actually be that stupid...