Meanwhile somewhere in Germany there's a serial killer serving a 3 year sentence, and a murderer in Sweden is living the life of luxury in his hotel room they call a cell.
How come all countries can't be as harsh or harsher than the USA?
>>688699870
because they fell for the rehab instead of punishment meme.
don't worry things will sort themselves out naturally.
>>688699870
There are 600+ crimes in China that punishes by firing squad.
>>688699870
And in Saudi Arabia they just hung 5 bangladeshis a few days after their crime of raping murdering a 13 year old girl.
Europe is just cucked to death.
The steep prison sentences of the USA only result in a 20% reduction in crime. Nearly every prisoner will be released at some point and commit more crimes. Europe is more focused on rehabilitation and has a lower crime rate to show for it. USA and Europe represent 2 extremes of punishment styles.
>>688700325
That's a little overboard though, I'm all for being more extreme than the USA in some cases but China will kill you for a lot of things lol
>>688700325
l rather take a .45 acp to the back of my head than spend the rest of my life in prison
>>688700375
Good point, certain prisoners can be rehabilitated if they committed certain crimes. Europe is extreme by trying to rehabilitate murderers though
I honestly belive they should be rounded up untill theres a count of about 100 then gas them
>>688700375
50% of niggers in jail are in there for murder.
They all deserve to die, we need mass executions.
Kill the scum, that's how you stop crime.
>>688700375
europe don't have nig nogs
btw that guy who "is living the life of luxury in his hotel room they call a cell." is from Norway not Sweden
Lmao
>>688701083
I see what you did there
>>688700096
this is deterrent > >>688700325
China is relatively safe (comparatively) as a result, and they don't have offenders that have committed 60-70 felony offenses, many of which are violent. People think the USA is harsh, but for our African Americans, we're actually pretty lax.
>>688701877
True some states are different too where people go in and out of jail, New York has been flexxing it's muscle lately though
>>688700375
European blacks assimilate quite well, whereas many American negroids have no compulsion to assimilate into society, no desire to fit in, no desire to make anything of value.
>>688701877
>>688700096
>>688700834
Execution or long sentencing isn't really a deterrent. When we lock someone up it's because we have a prison industry and we don't want to deal with them and assume they'll die in prison.
>>688702160
Our prisons are colleges for advanced education in violence. Having gone to prison is seen as a badge of honor for a great many of our rebellious leftists.
>>688702165
truest facts i read today
>>688700590
>2017-1
>saying lol
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE normie scum
ITS ZOZZLE YOU FUCKING IDIOT!!!
>>688702202
i dont think you understand the real world. people dont go to prison for first offenses. most sentences get suspended. people get put on probation or paroled out. you have to really be an ignorant fucker with a rap sheet as long as my arm to do more than 3 years in prison. the USA has the highest incarceration rate because we have unbelievable levels of crime for a developed country, and we spend a shitload of money on police, so we actually capture the criminals.
>>688702536
Sorry, I haven't been a /b/tard in a while, been browsing other boards. ZOZZLE!! KEK!!!!
>>688702202
>Execution or long sentencing isn't really a deterrent.
Are you literally quite sure that at least some people are not deterred from crime, at least thinking of "OK, I see if I keep this life up, I could end up in prison or on death row"
I've seen reformed people talk this way, and I've seen older people try and mentor youth in this fashion using prison as a deterrent.
>>688699870
murder in Germany is punished by at least 25 years of prison , never less
>>688702456
Yeah that can happen too
>>688699870
Because America doesn't fuck around, you bitch.
>>688699870
browser stopped responding and i posted no respond
All countries r not harsher, cuz it doesnt work. Only u nigggot cunt bitches r obsessed with sentencing ppl to 300 years in jail. USA is number 1. In jail population. Other countries know those ppl need to be rehabilitated into the society
>>688702836
me too. i had a guy tell me:
"man when i was young i fucked up. i spent 30 days in the jail and i said fuck this, it aint for me. and a few times since then ive been tempted, but i remember. so i stay out of trouble."
unfortunately everyone has bought into the way of thinking that people arent in control of their actions whenever they do something wrong. only when they do something good. its fucked up pretty bad.
>>688702879
thats why arab shitskins get 5 years for murder and are free after 2 years. noice
>>688702879
do they serve 25 years because i kind of doubt it, based on everything else ive read about european prison sentences.
>>688702879
Maybe they've changed their laws? I heard of a male nurse who was killing people and he only did 10 years
>>688703047
swedish cuck detected
>>688703047
yeah lets rehab this guy and put him to work at a daycare l o l
>>688702879
nope, that is not true. In Germany "life sentence" is only 15 years
>>688702504
Pro racist blacks make fun of blacks that assimilate or attempt to assimilate, making life difficult for them. It creates a difficult life for a black person that desires to assimilate, especially if in addition to the punishment and revulsion of their peers, their are racist whites that make life hard. So, this person is left with a few white friends, and hardly any black friends. Blacks eat their own with no remorse for the sin of assimilation into a working society of people.
You see what happens to Sotomayor: https://youtu.be/zrQZhFAKYUI
They try and hunt him down, his family down.
>>688700325
600+? I doubt that. Maybe if like 20+ of em are basically the same thing worded a dozen different ways.
>>688702202
Even if there is no deterrent, they never repeat offend, and it's much cheaper and more efficient than housing and feeding them for 70 years.
>>688703092
"What can possibly go wrong?" has to be on the forefront of every plan... LOL
>>688703529
i agree, but where does phil dunphy enter into this
>>688703319
americunt cuck detected. Better spend money on housing ppl. Dont let no freeloader to milk that welfare, its the land of capitalism.
>>688703375
u know the court can rule to not allow ppl to work in certain jobs, right? But they can still work.
Good thing u love capitalism so much and dont let veterans have healthcare paid by the government.
>>688699870
Meanwhile, this cunt will be out in 10 years for good behaviour.
How come in The Netherlands, life sentence is actually a life sentence?
>>688699870
Because being harsh on criminals doesn't work.
>>688699870
Historically, these same countries used to throw people in dungeons forever and decapitate them in public squares for any crime or no crime at all.
>>688703768
its weird, when they get caught committing burglary, we understand why they stole: they could get something out of it
but then we deny the fact the same faculty of thought could have led them to choose not to do it
>>688703839
>phil dunphy
Excellent question. I don't know the answer to that one.
So many edgy kids itt
>>688703996
good idea, so if someone rapes your wife or daughter, we should give them a voucher for woodworking course and let them go
fucking brilliant plan
>>688699870
>How come all countries can't be as harsh or harsher than the USA?
well I'd imagine it's because western Europe quite enjoys having much lower crime rates and a far less expensive justice system than America.
>>688699870
If you knew anything about sweden and/or swedish prisons you would know that
a) swedish prisons are not luxury hotels. They may not be as shitty as american prisons but trust me, I've done an 8 year sentence in Kumla and they aint no fucking holiday camps.
b) the swedish government believes in rehabilitation over incarceration. Regeringen has had a massive boner for taxes since the 1600's and they do not want its population sitting rotting in jail when they could be out there earning money and paying tax. This is what our entire culture is based on; everyone pays all their fucking money to the government and hopefully everyone is happy. (Of course, if everyone was happy I wouldn't have made an ungodly amount of money selling heroin but there you go. life sucks, wear a hat)
>>688702836
>>688703092
30 days isn't a long sentence
>>688703853
yeah lets just put restrictions on everyone and everything based on an actuarial assessment and then spend $10,000,000 to enforce those rules. except there wont be any consequences for breaking those rules, because harsh punishments arent allowed. that makes ton of sense.
my favorite hot dogs are chicago dogs
but chicago is a shitty city, i like atlanta better
whats this thread about im high as shit
>>688704372
after spending 30 days in jail, he knew he really didnt want to spend years in there. are you really a dumbass or do you just type before you think?
>>688703853
I wish you were a dictator. So I could rape your mom and get a day in jail and rehabilitation
>>688704073
I think you'd really like a book by Sam Harris. It's called "Free Will"
It's another book about the myth of free will. Anyway, he goes into this in a few of his talks.
https://soundcloud.com/samharrisorg/shouldering-the-burden-of-history-with-dan-carlin
here's an idea, lets list a few crimes and what we think the best sentence would be:
murder: death
manslaughter: death
rape: death
white collar crime > $5,000,000: death
white collar crime < $1,000,000: restitution and 2 years of garbage detail on the interstate
battery: 5 lashes
assault: 5 lashes
shoplifting: 5 lashes
public mischief: 24 hours in the stocks
drug possession: none
dwi: 10 weekends of trash patrol on the interstate
>>688704372
>30 days isn't a long sentence
It's long enough to fall behind on bills. Lose a job. Lose you right to own or use firearms. Long enough to successfully disrupt any plans you had that involved having fun and being in control of your own time.
I'd say it sound horrible to me to sit behind bars for 30 days.
>>688704892
it doesnt matter if free will exists. behaving as if it does is the bedrock of human society. "mitigating circumstances" is an inconsistent crock of shit
>>688704892
wrong sound cloud - this one is a good one (forgive the audio of Jerry Coyne)
https://soundcloud.com/samharrisorg/faith-vs-fact-an-interview-with-jerry-coyne
>>688702536
Please be baiting, cause that shit never took off.
>>688705191
i know a shitload of people on welfare and the only reason theyre scared to do more than a week in jail is that it will fuck up their welfare check l 0 l
>>688705332
sorry - this one is the good one: >>688705408
>>688704630
good luck trying to rape her. she fucking craves cock so hard I'm guessing she'd be raping you
>>688705470
Whatever works my friend
>>688705520
im not him, but youre an idiot. what if it were raping your baby daughter. laugh that one off faggot.
>>688704607
>>688705191
it's nothing compared to 15-90+ years
the short sentence is what deterred them, long sentences don't deter anyone who's going to actually do a crime like that
>>688705611
its welfare, it doesnt "work" l 0 l
>>688703529
>literally my life
>mostly white friends
>good 70k/year job
>House/2015 jeep/cringe at violent rap
Called a sellout by blacks or "acting white", targeted socially by racist whites. Can never win.
>shhhhmmmmurda
>>688699870
LMAO... Compare Sweden's recidivism rate with ours.
Inb4 "what's recidivism"...
Fuck, you people are not just vile human beings, but also incredibly stupid.
>Beware all of those in whom the urge to punish is strong.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
>>688699870
It's a nigger. If it was a white aryan nationalist, it would have been 5-10 years with probation after 2 years
>>688705725
so because a rapist will never be deterred by a long sentence, there should be no sentence at all for rape. this is amazing! so, the more serious the crime is, the less time you should do! wonderful!
so 30 days for assault/battery, 0 days for murder. genius!
>>688705738
HA! well, if it keeps someone out of prison -
I think prison is more expensive to tax payers than welfare (I don't have the facts on this, but I'm guessing prison costs us more)
>>688699870
cause the people you mentioned aren´t niggers
>>688705975
you dont understand the difference between prison and jail l 0 L or the reasons that send people there L 0 L
"sir what would we have to pay you to not murder that man?"
"70k a year?"
"what a bargain!"
L 0 L!
>>688705773
This why I'm only racist against racist blacks, and want to pound the shit out of whites that are racist across the board. They're getting us killed, and just making things worse for all of us (including you)
>>688705408
Soundcloud.com/ronniescholarship
>>688706225
i think what you said right.
>>688699870
Webm related.
>>688706182
>prison vs jail
Minor mistake. yes, I know the difference and I made a mistake - my bad.
Yes, this is the literal reason why people are in favor of a welfare state. They believe the incredible violence of minorities has to deal with the fact they're poor, and has nothing to do with a lack of basic values - such as compassion.
>>688705657
well, if you rape a child in order to prove a point then I would hope that you get psychological treatment as well as incerceration. It is not a healthy mindset to be in and also you will be placed on various watchlists. There is also a chance that you will get sodomized and/or stabbed in prison so I think that even if you received a short sentence, your punishment would be ample enough. I could be wrong though. Maybe you would cruise through prison with your virginity, anal or otherwise, still intact. You would then have to face your friends and family who all know that you are a sex offender. Good luck finding work or any meaningful place in society again, you sick fuck.
>>688706237
>Soundcloud.com/ronniescholarship
OK... this is odd
>>688706764
poverty cant explain everything. and what it can explain has to be related to economic development, not cash in hand. so sending someone a fucking check wont stop violence. and sending someone a fucking check wont develop the economy when they use to lease a bmw and spend the rest at a nightclub. source: my irl
>>688706869
youre the guy who said it would be ok to rape your mom. that makes you the sick fuck, you sick fuck. and now you're pro prison sentences and prison rape. you are a confused asshole.
>>688704455
>>688704630
cant w8 for u whores to get 10 years for havin a gram of marijuana too much
How can u be so retarded? Was your retardation encouraged? Were u dropped on your heads repeatedly? Were u raped in jail and loved it?
>>688707051
President Obama believes that if he never uses the words 'Islam' and 'Terrorism' together, that he'll keep some number of muslims that are teetering on the edge of martyrdom from becoming jihadists.
It's a notion "we mustn't piss them off, so we can be safe"
If we give violent minorities enough room for bad behavior, they'll calm down and assimilate. Don't try to make them behave, just give them room. They're trying this experiment in Baltimore and in other cities across america at this very moment, and now that policing is down or reduced, we're seeing how well it's not working.
>>688703047
Murderers and other psycho nigs can't be rehabilitated. I agree when it comes to some minor drug offenses though
>>688705940
You might be the dumbest person on /b/
>>688707699
i really like all these stories about "life in prison for marijuana possession." go read court dockets from real life. people get probation for simple marijuana possession. if you had kilos, you get prison time, maybe. all this shit is hype by nigger apologists. of which, you are one. so you'd probably rather be in jail getting dicked in the ass, not me.
>>688707318
Asians have brought lawsuits over this shit to certain universities.
The numbers are actually only the top 13% admitted for Asians, 34% for whites, and 96% of blacks that apply into medical school are accepted.
>>688707777
yeah, white people are the ones ruining detroit, chicago, gary, etc.
if all white people vanished from the face of the earth, i think the american blacks would starve to death in a couple of weeks.
"no offense but they don't have what it takes"
-George W. Bush Jr.
>>688708272
[citation needed]
>>688708122
The IRS is feeling powerless when they can't track your income for selling this stuff. The IRS used to bring criminals down when no other evidence of wrong doing could be found.
>>688699870
>and a murderer in Sweden is living the life of luxury in his hotel room they call a cell.
No, you mean Norway.
Also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiZUvDMdnik
>>688706723
I would wreck Ellinor.
>>688708521
Ubiquitous action is ubiquitous LOL. There are plenty of resources out there.
>>688708826
Jesus Christ. This is better than my own place.
>>688705773
Thus the reason why nobody has any respect for ghetto trash nignogs. you work your ass off for everything you have. They seriously bitch and whine about "keeping the black man down", and yet success stories like you that shatter their self-loathing myth gets you disowned. I seriously want to know what a "Successful black person" looks like to these kinds of people.
>>688709140
>burden of proof
[citation needed]
>>688709370
dont get too jel hell be rehabbed so. or you can go rape that guys mom like he asked and join up.
>>688709384
he already said, they look like a sell-out or someone who "acts white"
>>688703529
>racist whites make it hard
racist blacks make my life/job hard.
>>688708826
makes me want to move to norway to commit a crime and hope to god they place me in this prison
>>688708521
http://newsone.com/165891/many-whites-filing-reverse-discrimination-lawsuits/
http://onpoint.wbur.org/2013/03/11/asian-discrimination
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2012-02-02/harvard-targeted-in-u-s-asian-american-discrimination-probe
>>688699870
most companies only max 30 years since that really is mostly life.
>>688709788
None of these are journals produced by the goverment, or census bureu
>>688708122
sentences for possessing marijuana r clearly too low. Why cant u be like russia and jail ppl for mentioning homosexuals in the park?
Just shoot fat ppl in the name of law
>>688709802
not when you're 19 and murder someone. then you get out at 49 and you're a useless piece of shit. ive met three guys like that so far.
>>688709419
EVERYONE really wants blacks to do well, and there is no evidence of "institutionalized racism" like many pro blacks say.
The only evidence of racism we have is charges of racism without any actual evidence of it in the U.S. or by some use of mental gymnastics to say that because so many blacks are in prison, that the system must be racist.
>>688699870
we don't have as much nigger as you so it's difficult to convince people that it makes sense to sentence somebody to 90 years of prison
we've got prison to life instead
>>688709921
my point is that people say the sentencing guidelines on simple drug possession can get you sent to prison for a long time and that is patently false. the professors, the reporters, the social justice fags dont know what they're talking about. go read the court minutes, its totally untrue.
>>688710044
costed them life and made to struggle
>>688709686
you wouldn't be the first.
>>688710194
actually i think 5% of white people are really, truly racist. but the overwhelmingly majority is as you say.
>>688710340
i dunno when they get out they either turn into a bum or their family has to carry them. id rather have it been execution.
>>688708826
What the fuck, norway
>>688709909
How will the government write about law suits from Asians in reverse discrimation suits?
You will not find out from the government statistics about fatherless homes the actual number of cuckold black men in the U.S.
(black men are the highest number of actual cuckolds in the U.S.)
>>688708022
punishment is not enough. Its better, if they r also rehabilitated. Maybe not every1 changes, but some do and the government doesnt have to pay for they stay.
>>688710324
My point is if u think harsher sentences is the way to go, u should be put in jail for 10 years for a blunt, u hypocrite
>>688710428
Do you know how uncomfortable it is be around a truly racist white person? We don't like them either.
>>688710749
i like the system where the first 5 times you commit a crime, you basically get off. that way, young people learn that there is no punishment. in the at-risk youth ive worked with, it turns out great for them. they end up dead or in prison or un-hirable, because they never faced consequences until it became too late. so maybe a stiff sentence up front would have helped turn them around. ps you're a fucking faggot and a shitstain
>>688699870
>>688710676
cuckold: A man who is paying for a child that is not his own. (involves deception from the woman)
he's black he deserve it
>>688710804
i am a white person and i dont like it either.
>>688709608
and my question is what exactly does a successful black man looks like. more specifically, what does "acting black" entail?
>>688706386
>Swiss
>Racially Homogenous
Kek, I bet this pic was made by an American
>>688711158
acting black means not working, being aggressive, ignorant, talking ghetto, spending money on showy things, and not investing in the future.
basically, if you do anything by the book and act normal, you're not acting black enough.
>>688711230
4 languages and a 12% immigrant population
>>688704372
Nobody said it was dickhead.
>>688711068
>>688711068
"Your honor, it's only his 4th offense. He's really a good kid." LOL
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/rRaSfss.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
It seems the same thing happens in every thread concerning problems in America compared to other countries:
-Europe gets better results for less expenses, with all-around higher standards of living for everyone
-CUCK!
It's like whatever America's problem is, they consider it a point of pride. If their government mandated monthly sodomies with a spiked dildo, the Americans would laugh and mock the Europeans for their small, unscarred assholes.
>>688699870
because a culprit is a victim himself.
punishment is false and nobody gets something out of it.
in germany we rather heal these victims.
thats why we dont need guns and can go out in the late night in peace without worrying to die this day, you fucking dumb americunt
>>688711158
>>688711360
The United States of America has more black millionaires than any other country
http://www.denniskimbro.com/americas-black-millionaires-food-for-thought/
Whites voted Obama into office, not blacks and mexicans.
>>688711443
Plus Cross-border workers.
Italians, Albanians, Serbians workers are really common in Swiss
>>688711594
seriously, thats how it would happen if he had a lawyer. they just give him 6 months or 3 years and suspend it all. put him on probation. he'll end up doing more days for probation violations than for the original convictions.
>>688711761
>-Europe gets better results for less expenses, with all-around higher standards of living for everyone
This is not true when you look at the actual data
>>688711897
its also got more gangbanging thugs than anywhere outside of africa. whats your point. the income inequality in black america is obscene. its probably one of the worst on planet earth.
>>688711068
YEAH, JAIL YOURSELF FOR THAT BLUNT U HAD FOR 10 YEARS, NIGGER.
god, u r stupid... U should be incarcerated up front for 365 years with a chance of earlier leave for good behavior after 230.
>>688711987
>end up doing more days for probation violations than for the original convictions
WAT THE FUCK!! (not going to prison for fucking up on probation??)
>>688712100
for example, europeans have exceedingly high energy costs. and energy is energy, whatever you pay for it.
>>688703152
>>688703211
>>688703220
"Murder" is always* punished by a life sentence (which is not actually life long. Its at least 15 years and at most 25 years. The reasons why there is no actual life long sentence are pretty complex, you can read about it if you like. Anyhow, if the prisoner is to dangerous to let him go, a so called "Sicherheitsverwahrung" can be ordered. Its neither a prison sentence nor a punishment. But you are locked away. It is not used often and quite controversial).
But, "Mord" (murder) is the worst killing crime known in german law. There are others ("Totschlag" "manslaughter" for example). I guess its a bit similar to "first/second degree murder", but not the same. The distinction is controversial (not the fact that there is a distinction, but where to draw the line). Generally, murder has to be either dangerous to others, or be exceptional objectionable (usually killing for a rather minor goal, maybe money or revenge). Its a very interesting and complex subject in german law, entangled with our history and Verfassung (constitution).
Anyway, only Mord is punished that consequently and harshly. Mansloughter can (and often has) lesser punishment. Although its (i think) at least 5 years. Other killing crimes ("fahrlässige Tötung", i dont know the english term, killing someone without intention to kill but not caring about it anyway) can be punished even less.
* except for very special cases, mostly if the murderer is underage.
>>688712260
probation violation is 60 days at the most, usually a couple weeks. or just pay a fine and get out. hell parole violation is only 90 days (the famous "90day turnaround")
>>688712235
fuck you and your black asshole. nobody on earth in america ever did 10 years on a blunt.
>>688712163
>income inequality in black america is obscene
>income inequality
>inequality
Someone is a socialist/communist here? no way!
All people are not equal, not equally endowed with capabilities, why should everyone deserve equal pay?
Here is the opposite of Quality: Equality
>>688711897
exactly. these people shatter the progressive narrative of the "whitey keeping the black man down" spiel, and has more successful black people than any other country. but nope. apparently they don't count, because the self-loathing ghetto apes won't aknowledge their current situation is nobody's fault but theirs, and want to hate the ones who rose above something they wouldn't
>>688699870 (OP)
Maybe because the USA is interested in keeping their re-invented prison style slave trade going and other country's actually want to rehabilitate their wayward citizens.
>>688712561
??
where did i make a value statement? all i meant to say is that in black america, there is not much of a middle class. its their fault and they need to fix it. pronto.
>>688712559
>pay a fine
There is very little self incentive to make America Great, make yourself great. There was a time when people thought outside their own tiny world. They wanted to make the country they're in great, a great place to live, a safe place to be for everyone. Anyone that was so self absorbed was not tolerated. NOW, we exalt those that exhibit selfish characteristics. "he keepin it real" LOL
>>688712850
ooops...... I smelled something and it was a false trigger, LOL
>>688700375
No you Fuck-Stick... You are comparing Apple's and shit piles... Different population densities, different cultural acceptance ect. There is no comparing the two. Common denominator is usually shit-skins of some degree.
TLDR - NIGGERS GON NIG.
![average-life-expectancy-cost-of-healthcare-world-rankings-infographic[1].png_t=1464629809909.png](https://i.imgur.com/FreHSAh.png "average-life-expectancy-cost-of-healthcare-world-rankings-infographic[1].png_t=1464629809909.png")
>>688712100
Here's one about medical expenses, because I happened to have it at hand. I'm not going to bother looking for crime rate statistics because I know that if you really even cared about them you could as well look for them yourself.
>>688713111
the few well put-together members of the black community are more concerned with taking down confederate monuments than fixing real problems
>>688713681
NIGGERS GON NIG!
>>688699870
Penalties in the us are so stiff that crime increases for every person we incarcerate. There is no reason to maintain penalties at this level
>>688710804
I am a racist have been all my life(in childhood too), and you will find your self in the presence of racists everyday all day.
Not everyone is flamboyant like the faggots are, and then again only the small minor portion is flamboyant with it.
Whites hate blacks, it is very common in every day life.If you're white and saying you've never hated blacks acting like blacks, you're lying to your self and are denying it.
>>688712559
but u advocate the harsh sentences, so they should, u bitch nigger jew
>>688713879
then why do some states have higher crime rates than others, even when federal penalties are the same everywhere?
>>688713976
>>688711961
And they are in most cases civilised
>>688711809
>dont have guns
Because you have heavy laws inacted from your war crimes in word war 2.Similar to how japan was pacified,and cuba
>>688712519
A life sentence in the US is 25 years flat.
>>688699870
Long story short, Europe is like a retarded woman who stays with a bad boy because she thinks she can change him. No matter how many times you tell them that niggers just belong in prison, they don't want to listen
>>688700096
Then why do those countries have far less recidivism, and a generally higher standard of living than that crumbling former-empire you hail from? ;)
>>688714214
keep trollin
stay mad
>>688714871
they would have those things with or without the punishment/rehab regime. its inherent.
>>688702456
Just like you bragging to your Mom about fucking your sister.
>>688714939
u the one mad
u the one brown
>>688714871
NIGGERS... that's why.
>>688715091
>>688715398
>>688714871
>european
>calling somebody else a "crumbling former empire"
wew lad
wew
just wew
>>688699870
Because they aren't racist as all shit in their system?
>>688715476
yea i didnt get that either...
>>688715662
>mad max: thats bait
>>688704321
"Wear a hat" doesn't translate. Wtf does it mean in Swedish?
>>688699870
Because they don't have priority motives to traffic citizens through and into prison?
>>688715759
>hurr durr racism doesn't exist so mentioning racism must be bait
>>688716429
"get over it" seems like?
maybe to keep the rain off
>>688716641
well, its commonly known that saying a "whole system" is racist is the kind of argument that you only use when preaching to the choir. it never gets anywhere with people who disagree even slightly. so its crap, essentially, when offered as a one-liner as you did. so either you're retarded or its bait. 50/50 and i gave you the benefit of the doubt. you should be flattered.
>>688706527
Let them fucking starve
>>688716922
no they need food relief aid, all those problems were caused by white people.
>>688699870
Move to Saudi Arabia if you want to live in the dark ages.
The question is why are amerifats still thinking like bath fearing pilgrims?
Oh right, pandemic right wing ignorance and tiny dick insecurity.
>>688717037
the scary thing is that people actually believe that
>>688716913
Yes it does get somewhere since it's true and there is proof enough to infinity. It's not crap, one-liner or otherwise. You have no points.
>>688717368
Enjoy the rapefugees, liberal eiropean drone worker for the collapsing eurozone.
>>688700325
china does not give fucks
>>688706926
I saw that yesterday on /b/
>>688717612
list 10 points on that then, and we'll see what you got. show me.
>>688714044
Because prison sentences are only one of the many factors that account for crime. However if you are causing more crime by locking people up you can reduce crime by locking fewer people up. I'm not saying lock no one up just that we do so much that it actually has a negative effect
>>688699870
Cause we white folks look out for one another nigga...that's why you lives the way you do dog.
>>688718200
thank you for a real argument. i disagree, but i laud you for it
>>688718162
You're not new the US. You've head many more than 10 points. People outside the US have heard, so have you.
>>688717368
>locking up unapologetic killers means you have a tiny dick
no, it means we're under no illusion. do the crime, do the time.
plus, seeing as your entire post boils down to muh dick i think it's safe to say you're a nigger, and as such your opinion on prisons means jack shit because you just want an easier time next time you get caught jacking somebody's tv
the thing is, rehabilitation focused imprisonment would be immoral even if it worked.
It is utterly idiotic to waste resources into defective members of society.
>>688713580
Many European countries have courts that will not tolerate the number, type and scope and damages of law suits that American courts will tolerate. These often frivolous law suits cost everyone here a great deal of money.
Many of the best doctors in the world leave Europe and come here to teach and serve in their capacity because "pay equality" among doctors is not a thing here. In the US if you're highly qualified and achieve results, you'll paid as such. There must be incentive for professionals to do well. This is more of an example of how socialism doesn't work for a working society of individuals of differing abilities.
>>688718550
>decries a "whole system"
>cant define the "system"
>refuses to give specifics
ok dude
>>688718726
i like this way of thinking
>>688718990
>show me man it's my first beer
>>688713681
I don't want to be seen near a confederate flag. I'm not from the south, and I don't fully understand the reasons they want it. Whereas there may be some reason to have it that does not involve racism, it is a hot button right now that racist blacks have associated the flag with racism, and I don't want anything to do with it.
It's not like many of us are trying to make things worse for blacks. We're not looking for reason to piss off blacks, but many blacks are definitely looking for reasons to get pissed off and destroy things.
>>688713951
In what way are you racist? Do you deny blacks the right to flourish when you can?
No, not everyone is a racist.
>>688713951
>Whites hate blacks
Simply not true. I have too many black friends and associates to know this is patently false and counter productive to say.
>>688702536
That was a thing for a month, then noone cared. Fucking summerfags.
>>688715662
There is not a shred of proof of a racist justice system in the U.S. though.
This is mental gymnastics to assume our justice system is racist - especially when you consider the number of blacks that do not graduate high school. Many blacks are proud of the fact they ignore the law. The more you know, the smarter you will be.
>>688716913
>>688716641
Saying the whole system is racist (without a shred of evidence of actual racism) is a hollow statement that seems to still grab attention.
Can you name an actual racist law or racist policy? Can you name a system that is actually racist in nature?
>>688710194
What crud. Probably the biggest lie posted to 4chan yet.
>>688700886
>>688702165
Unfortunately (for us) you are as wrong as anyone can be.
>>688720569
no i think hes right honestly.
>>688710804
Who is we? Tons of whites like them just fine and tons of "truly" racist white people are perfectly comfortable for others to be around.
>>>688710428
>actually i think 5% of white people are really, truly racist.
making up numbers
>but the overwhelmingly majority is as you say.
making up more numbers.
if long jail is so good why does usa have so much prisoners?
>>688720569
>>688720656
Well, do you have any evidence to refute it?
I can show you that systems are in place to give blacks advantages in college, and in the work place, but nothing to show that anyone is actually prejudice or racist against blacks.
You should have chosen to get your education, so you can know what evidence is, and how it affects statements.
>>688720916
You know it's shit trollbgone
>>688720043
>There is not a shred of proof of a racist justice system in the U.S. though.
Yes there is. And it's highlighted regularly. There are no assumptions because it's known from seeing it happen.
>>688699870
Because the crimes rates and rate of re-offending are both significantly lower in countries with humane sentencing
>>688720924
Calling all whites racist is just stupid.
I think to myself - one of the worst things a black person can do is meet a REAL racist white. (it happens, but it's very rare) LOL
it's like when a white person meets a racist black person. The black will attack the white person for the sin of being white - which happens regularly.
>>688699870
There's no point in keeping a prisoner that long. Just put a bullet in their head and get it over with.
>>688721282
When the evidence shows that blacks do not graduate high school (a choice made by them), then it is no wonder about prison rates.
Why do blacks attack police in such high numbers? Do you think this bodes well for them in many places? Blacks kill police many many more times often than police kill blacks.
>>688720397
The fact that blacks regularly get much harsher punishments than whites do for the same and similar crimes, repeated offenses accounted for and the truthfulness of the pattern still hold true, so that's not an excuse to write it the whole thing off which you'd try to do.
Now make up a lie.
>>688699870
>How come all countries can't be as harsh or harsher than the USA?
your country is already violent as fuck compared to any other european country.
does that make sense to you? or is your education system one of the worst compared to any other european country? do you even understand what i'm saying?
>>688720043
>Many whites, wealthy whites, and government personnel are proud of the fact they ignore the law.
Fixed that for you
>>688721282
>it's highlighted regularly.
What is highlighted often is how a black person commits a murder or getting shot after 40-60 felony offenses. Do you think it's racist of the courts to allow them back out into society after they've committed so many offenses?
Are blacks demonstrating an inability to learn, or assimilate, or work, or try, or show compassion in society?
>>688721282
>commit crimes and/or behave suspiciously
>get caught
>don't listen to the officer's commands
>lunge at the cop
>get shot or arrested
why is this so hard to understand? there would be a whole lot less black people in jail if they stopped committing a disproportionate number of crimes. that's not the cop's fault. that's not white people's fault. stop committing crimes and you won't go to jail! holy shit! what a novel concept
>>688721988
Do you have any evidence of your claim? There are many blacks that shreke this nonsense, but when we take a look at the actual data, we do not see it.
This is what we see: https://youtu.be/WmaRuiRX0eI
Can you show me instances of whites behaving like this?
>>688721898
>When the evidence shows that blacks do not graduate high school (a choice made by them), then it is no wonder about prison rates.
That doesn't have squat to do with racism.
>Why do blacks attack police in such high numbers?
Self defense. Why do police attack and harass blacks at such high rates that have been studied and found to be unnecessary and racially exploitative?
>Blacks kill police many many more times often than police kill blacks.
Straight false.
>>688722195
>Many whites, wealthy whites, and government personnel are proud of the fact they ignore the law.
Can you show me some evidence of this?
>>688722718
>but when we take a look at the actual data, we do not see it.
>This is what we see: https://youtu.be/WmaRuiRX0eI
Total bologna. Of course you pull this.
>Can you show me instances of whites behaving like this?
Yea because whites never do this shit! Right?? Right? Buffoon.
>>688722738
When blacks do not graduate high school at alarming numbers, then it helps to explain the abhorrent behavior among blacks. Then, whites are annoyed by it. Yes, it helps to explain why blacks act like idiots, because they're uneducated in how to function in a plural society.
They are taught they are victims. It's really not helpful.
What we get are people like you that shreke "I'm a victim of the white man", when you're really a victim of your own parents, family or people that tell you of your victim status.
>>688722586
>make up a fictional series of events to base your afterthought on
All shit and has nothing to do with the abundant racism.
>>688722738
>Blacks kill police many many more times often than police kill blacks.
Straight false.
You mean it's factual. FTFY, thanks friend. Blacks have been killing police in great numbers lately.
It is so rare that when a policeman even kills a murderous black person, it makes national news when it happens. When a black person kills a policeman, it might make it outside local news, but it is not likely - because it's just not newsworthy of being rare.
>>688699870
Dude fathers day is coming up. Thanks for the reminder!
>>688723308
None of this has anything to do with the racism I pointed out. You're turning away to talk about other shit.
>>688723585
>the abundant racism.
What racism are you talking about new friend?
Do you have an actual example of racism that was not dealt with swiftly?
Can you tell me what would be a good reason for whites to be racist or to commit acts of racism to blacks? To what advantage to us it would be? Be honest. Do you honestly think we want a divide between us?
>>688723634
>You mean it's factual. FTFY, thanks friend. Blacks have been killing police in great numbers lately.
False as hell.
>>688724021
White people don't dare even make a racist light hearted joke at work in fear of getting fired and possibly sued. While on the other side, blacks get away with murder on a daily basis, literally.
>>688723833
>the racism I pointed out
You did not point out any racism. You made some claims and did not have any evidence of your claims.
Do you know what a hypothesis is? Many hypothesis never get theory, because there is no evidence to support it.
The hypothesis that "the system is racist" is a hypothesis that cannot stand the actual test of looking for evidence- therefore it cannot be made theory.
>>688724287
OH yes, we have many many examples of where blacks are allowed to act like complete jackasses and absolutely nothing is done about it, within their own community or officially.
We've all been there. Not all blacks act this way, and many are great people, but some are racist assholes.
>>688724287
fact
>>688724705
double fact
>>688724287
"don't make the black kids angry" https://youtu.be/-rcJsJeVn2E
Cause they're proud of the fact that they will fuck your shit up. They're proud of how they will fight at the drop of a hat. The greatest pride among blacks is how quickly they can be enraged to the point of beating someone up.
Isn't that a wonderful trait to have?
>>688724419
thank you. are you a trained social scientist? i am and this is how i was brought up. glad to see it.
>>688724287
Why are white people itching to make racist jokes, anon?
>>688725466
i dont understand when/how it became desirable. maybe a post-materialist reaction to being around too many civilized people.
>>688725642
everyone makes racist jokes, especially black people. but whites are scared to do it. blacks arent. why are blacks making so many racist jokes?
>>688725642
>Why are white people itching to make racist jokes, anon?
Only because blacks are often the worst people to work with. They park illegally in handicap spots. They never tip. They're proud of how violent they are. They love to fuck, but don't love to parent. They're responsible for over 50% of murder in America, but only make up 13% of our population.
Shall we get angry and kill them all, or just make jokes? I think joking is better.
>>688724021
I just said one. Blacks regularly get much harsher punishment for crimes.
>Do you have an actual example of racism that was not dealt with swiftly?
An? How about a plethora. Don't act like you don't know.
>Can you tell me what would be a good reason for whites to be racist or to commit acts of racism to blacks? To what advantage to us it would be? Be honest.
Tell me to be honest while being complete bologna yourself. Priceless.
>we
Who is we??? Whites? All whites are not with you in this "we" sentiment.
They say whites are racist against minorities, but when it comes to Asians, Whites never do anything to them. Asians are mostly non-violent. They work hard and make their families proud. They don't complain, they don't whine about the times when whites are racist toward them. They stay engaged and peaceful regardless of how bad blacks treat them.
Asians have HALF the unemployment that whites do, and 1/4 the unemployment that blacks do.
>>688725642
I don't know, how about you ask these Bureau of Land Management Protestors about the correlation between higher rates of violence and lower average intelligence among different races? The more rope we give BLM the faster they will hang themselves.
>>688726095
So much racism.
>>688726785
what was racist? everything he said was a bald fact. i guess facts are racist to you, which is why we cant ever move forward in this country with this problem.
>>688725911
>everyone makes racist jokes, especially black people.
Proof? Evidence?
>but whites are scared to do it.
proof? Evidence?
>blacks arent.
Proof? Evidence?
Race jokes are uncommon from either.
>>688726540
You made more claims but without any evidence still. Are you sure you understand about how evidence helps to shore up your argument, and give it more weight?
>we
Who is we??? Whites? All whites are not with you in this "we" sentiment.
Yes, whites do not want a divide between blacks and whites. We make fun of how stupid and violent they are, and they get pissed and become more violent and stupid.
I have a good idea: Stop making up excuses for black violence and bad behavior. If you're black, stop being a jackass, and tell your friends to stop being violent. You'll be surprised at how quickly things will get better for you.
>>688726540
they get harsher punishments because they wont work so they dont have money for a lawyer. instead of working, they're committing crimes. so explain to me how thats a problem caused by whites.
>>688726785
What do you mean? What was racist about what I said?
> My wife is Korean.
>never been around American niggers
>never heard me say anything about them
>works as a server at a restaurant
>now she hates obnoxious niggers that dodge tipping.
I didn't do it. Blacks do it on their own.
>>688727174
We really don't want racism in America. We'd love it if blacks acted like civilized human beings.
>>688726692
This cliche and superficial jerk over Asians like you give a rats ass for them doesn't change the point of racism.
>>688727742
fact
>>688727759
Please just give an example of racism, without spouting "racism". You're just getting your panties in a wad for nothing new friend.
>>688727058
Making racist jokes is racist anon. Racist-joke
>>688705773
You are a nigger. You will never be one of us. Kill youself you worthless monkey.
>>688728144
>Please just give an example of racism
Done and done
>>688727742
the lies you people tell.
blacks could act exactly how you and others want and you would still find a way to oppress them. Oppression and hatred is in the very fabric and nature of white ness.
Whiteness is predicated on the oppression and victimization of others. NOthing more, nothing less
native americans didnt act liek savages and yall still slaughtered them.
south asians didnt act like savages and yall slaugtered them.
its just in yall nature.
>>688727759
Asians are hard working. There is evidence galore to show they get their asses in gear, and have too much pride to get on public assistance.
They're mostly non-violent. This is fact, since Asians are under represented in prison. They certainly don't fight police often when they get pulled over for minor violations.
They value education and intellect. Do most blacks value education and intellect? Do you have evidence to show that blacks value education and intellect? The evidence we have shows most blacks do not even graduate high school.
>>688728349
>Oppression and hatred is in the very fabric and nature of white ness.
>Oppression and hatred is in the very fabric and nature of Humans*.
fixed that for you buddy <3
>>688700325
Population control ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>688702536
Nope!
not zozzle and never really was
YOU FUCKING IDIOT!!!
>>688728329
When are where was evidence of "institutional racism"?
do you know there are more black millionaires in the US than any other country? What is stopping you from reaching your potential? is it your victim status you're claiming, or it is something else?
>>688728349
what a fucking retard, saying white people are hateful and racist all the time is just being racist yourself. It is said in the Bible that Jesus loves everybody except Hippocrates, like you, your an embarrasment to society
>>688700096
>rehab instead of punishment meme.
PFFFTAHAHAHA
>America
>>688700834
Aren't you running late to a clan meeting?
>>688728349
You're spouting a nice mantra of pro black word salad that has no actual meat to it. Can you show me how whites oppress black people?
Do you have an example of a law or policy that is in place that oppresses black people?
>>688727258
>so explain to me how thats a problem caused by whites.
white-baiting, nice. I specifically said harsher punishments for black for crimes as an example of racism. Nothing about "blaming whites"
>they get harsher punishments because they wont work so they dont have money for a lawyer.
You pulled that from your ass. It doesn't matter anyway if it were true. They could still give out fairer punishments, but do not.
>>688728496
>doesn't change the point of racism.
>>688728349
>native americans didnt act liek savages and yall still slaughtered them.
The violent indian tribes were not only attacking whites, they were attacking peaceful indian tribes.
Keep telling yourself of your victim status new friend. Your tears are delicious.
>>688728496
african immigrants are some of the most educated group in america
asian immigrants are some of the most educated group in america
white immigrants are some of the most educated group in america
see a trend here?? folks that choose to come here and who's stay is predicated on them doing well, tend to do well.
Black natives in america as a result of slavery have a mix of aspiration and lazy..
white natives as well have equal numbers of them.
just like if you go to asia, there would be natives that dont value any of those things the immigrants care about.
It tells you absolutely nothing...other than natives of a place tend to be more lax and less aspiration than immigrant(recent immigrants...it fades the longer they stay in a place).
>>688728997
is it bait or are you brain dead? i really cant tell.
who would be responsible if not whites? "society"?
who is the "they" that could give out fairer punishments? what is fair? thats like saying you are entitled to the same car as everyone else even if you dont work to earn money to buy one. legal defense is better if you pay (more) for it, just like everything else in this world.
>>688728997
>harsher punishments for black for crimes
We don't have an example for that though. There is no actual evidence to support that hypothesis. It is a popular leftist/socialist claim, but it lacks substance.
>>688728530
You say right before you phony fags go right back to swearing that there isn't a drop of racism or racial oppression in the US
>>688729262
>african immigrants are some of the most educated group in america
Including those Somales in Wisconsin that join ISIS, LOL
>>688729335
actually, and im on your side, there is a body of empirical evidence showing blacks get harsher punishments for the same crimes, but only at the federal level. and its almost always due to their long rap sheet. the part of that that isnt the "almost always" is the only real evidence for institutional legal racism ive ever seen. its troubling to me, but i havent done the analyses myself to see whats really going on. federal crime is unrepresentative so it doesnt concern me too much. does this make sense?
>>688729427
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2015-10-13/it-isn-t-just-asian-immigrants-who-excel-in-the-u-s-
>>688729427
yech, those guys are a big mistake... dont know whose fucking bright idea it was to bring them over.
>>688728716
There you go trying to turn the discussion again. First high school, now me. Racism is the discussion, which you lie about.
>do you know there are more black millionaires in the US than any other country
Irrelevant!!
>>688729353
It's idiots like you that swear to be surrounded by racism, but when we ask you to point it at so we can fix it, you cannot point to a single circumstance of it. This is now how we fix anything. "I'm surrounded by racists" or "Blacks are superior and whites are shit, because of history" does not help.
Do you understand now new friend?
>>688699870
Because the only people that Swedish people could actually harm are other Swedish people. They don't really even need to be locked up. Basically their punishment is not being able to take a cock up the ass for a few years.
>>688699870
Because we prefer that when they leave jail they won't keep committing crimes afterwards. Prison is better when it's used as rehabilitation instead of punishment only.
>>688729335
Lie lie lie
When out of lies, lie more
>>688729585
Yes, it makes sense and the actual data is getting harder and harder to find, because of leftists and racist black apologists that scream "racism" every time someone lets out the results of a study. These claims do not help a horrible situation of black violence in the U.S. because blacks cannot even name the problem -because they're too busy making excuses for it.
>>688729984
see i responded to his post meaningfully and you didnt, even though i disagreed with him a little. you're a real cocksucker, you know that?
