Capitalism created this
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Capitalism created this
>>687679828
nope, underpaid workers did
>>687679956
Mcdonalds workers didnt build New York
>>687680226
>mcdonalds
>underpaid
Did yall know that bestiality and pedophilia are about to be legalized?
Thoughts?
>>687679956
>NEET anon spotted
>>687679828
What is so impressive about this? The infrastructure and design is fucking awful.
Yeah the free market isn't a bad thing if all people are free to manipulate it (Democracy, worker unions). But the state of it now is that only a few people manipulate it. And they are the rothschild jews and their collaborators. Did you know Turkey has moved into Syria? The western media owned by the bankster elite has a blackout on this.
>>687679828
tru cancer
>>687681948
this has always been true
human ingenuity, what little of it we have built that city, not some some poor minded approach to marketism.
>>687679828
Pretty cool, Though china is more aesthetic tbh. Also less niggers.
>>687679828
faggot doesn't understand, we built this city on rock and roll not the shackles you call freedom
>>687679828
Labor created that, capitalism profited off it.
>>687682494
Chinese peasants are worse than niggers tbh
>>687679828
No it didn't, fag. Capitalism is a social construct. People created that, not any -ism, and damn sure not some money worshiping religion.
>>687681742
>>687682800
/thread
Socialism created this
As far as I can tell, the purpose of a "free market" is to manipulate it from the top down. Why else would you want it to be "free"? Nothing else is "free". Anything free is subject to human nature at will, and that's an absurd policy in a world where laws exist for the very purpose of controlling human nature.
People have to be controlled or they will naturally exploit the weak, any available resources, and anything else they can.
>>687682800
slave labor could creat that? Or comunism , or socialism labor? Not even close my friend.
Capitalism didn't create it. CAPITALISTS did. WHO IS JOHN GALT? Death to the looters and moochers ITT.
Islam created this
>>687679828
So many parasites in this thread
>>687682722
San Fran was built on rock n roll. New York was built on Jew sweat n nigger blood
>>687682865
Chines peasants = hard working patriotic want to see their nation be the best it can be. will give there for this.
Niggers = "muh dick" *smacks lips* shuffles pants and dick* never work, collect welfare.
>>687683240
said the person whose never stepped foot over their city lines
>>687679828
>capitalism created this
>>687683466
The Irony of it all is that Rapture was never free. It was just as subject to the same limits and controls as everywhere else.
A man chooses.
A slave obeys
>>687683559
>*will give their life for this.*
my bad
>>687679828
Many communists here. Communism did not create anything, has not changed anything, but managed to kill a lot of people and let their government elite very rich .
>>687683441
>>687683441
and this you cuck
>>687683129
No, embargoes on Cuba created this.
>>687683441
hahahah.
>>687679828
Show us a picture of Detroit today. You can use the same stupid caption for it, too.
>>687683652
>in comunism we wold have only left side of this pic!
Capitalism also created income inequality.
>>687683577
you never stepped foot over their city lines? You need money to travel...
>>687683719
anti capitalist≠commie you fucking nimrod
learn to read you slave
>>687683129
hahahaha. Right!
>>687683896
>Implying an actual communist state has ever existed
>Implying communism isn't the condition in which a state exists
>Implying you have an inkling of what communism is
Learn2ReadPoliticalTheory
>>687683817
but detroit is a city that democrats have had a strangle hold on and is the poster child for there programs that will make the country better. may still be capitalism but its been fucked over by politics that its more socialist created
>>687679828
>20 and 16
>not doing a communism
>>687679956
Nope. Pretty much capitalism. Underpaid only keet it maintained.
>>687679828
200 years of immigration created that.
>>687684190
*European immigration
>>687683732
>Islam invented the blackboard.
>>687684128
Detroit became what it is because Capitalism abandoned it.
Remember how Detroit was once the considered the capital of General Motors?
Now look at all the rotting factories.
>>687683994
wow, you liking that slave state brah?
anyone who doesn't stake there asses to the ground can travel
>>687684232
jews, italians, irish, all considered non-white scum by racists until they realized their whiter coalition was a bit too small.
>>687683964
No it didn't. Inequality is part of nature. That's like blaming niggers or down's syndrome on capitalism.
>>687682800
Capitalism paid for it. Nobody works for free. Dummy.
>>687679828
Capitalist fanboys make me giggle
ITT fanboys collectively nut over a horrible social construct that employs the use of "money" to control and regulate a vast majority of the population like cattle, while convincing everyone that somehow this system benefits that very same majority.
>>687684291
and the numerals we use for math
the number zero
the idea of a variable
etc...
>>687683480
And San Francisco sucks cock. It's the definition of urban sprawl. People complain about rents when the rent in SF has increased at 7% every year since the 50's. Everyone over there is a cunt that doesn't want to let the unthinkable happen which is build more housing. People want to feel like they're part of some special club living in SF
>>687679956
>implying there is such a thing as "underpaid workers"
>>687684188
The average wage was higher fifty years ago by comparison to today's average and the cost of living was lower.
Even assembly line workers at General Motors made decent money. They had more health benefits than most factory workers now.
>>687684293
that's not an accident of capitalism, that is capitalism. you can't take credit for creating wealth for some and turn around and deny responsibility when it's stripped away from many others.
>>687684128
lol, Democratic conventional understanding is even a healthier approach to economics and you're still bitching about it wrong
destroying capitalism as it exists now is the only way to repair america
>>687684032
Tell us all about your anti capitalist theories , since you are not communist . How will you keep people capable to make money to continue making money to keep the lazy ones?
>>687679828
Socialism has the poorhouse europe made within a very short time to become a superpower
>>687684441
don't forget they created this too
>>687683441
>>687684518
Noice b8 m8
CAPITALISM CREATED THIS
>>687684518
b8 outta hell
>>687684751
I don't care about Africa
>>687684176
Yes!
>>687684389
>>687683964
Funny how you accuse all black people of ignorance when you clearly can't read. Note how I used the word "income."
>>687681742
>infrastructure is awful
Say that when the rest of the country is struggling to find water while NYC has 3 massive systems that pump water to it from states away.
>design is awful
You're right they should've built more highways through the city like every other place in the US.
>>687684518
>there is no such thing as bait
>>687679828
Damn central park looks scary af
>>687683737
keep belivieng this fag
>venezuela pic related
>>687680786
bouts to fuck an underage animal then
>>687684751
nobody gives a shit about overcrowded feral animals. I don't have that shit in my backyard because I spay and neuter the ferals. Someone should tell the warlords in Africa that.
>>687684836
t. tyrone
>>687684534
I think we are on the same side.
>>687684440
*tips tin foil fedora*
>>687684615
no one here is going to spell it out for you, get off your lazy ass and read
>>687684316
and what would be a viable alternative to capitalism? Do not dream , be realistic . Tell us , please.
>>687684880
It isn't bait
The invisible hand free market decides how much someones labor is worth.
Just like you don't deserve 15 an hour for flipping burgers
>>687684527
>underpaid keep it maintained
i just want to kill everyone now. the world is so sad and fcked up
>>687679828
And your point is?
>>687684810
no one cares aboout you too, anyway
>>687683559
No joke.
Replace with Mexicans. At least they work hard.
>>687684810
what a well adjusted person you've grew up to be the hands of capitalism
>>687684836
Yeah, nigger, are you stupid? Do you believe that before capitalism every human on the planet magically had the same resources? Are you fucking daft?
Everyone is different. Nobody is the same. Inequality is a prerequisite for evolution. It is not some new side effect of capitalism. Humans have never been equal and they never will be. There will always be so much chaff to so much wheat.
>>687684676
>implying the majority of terrorists aren't killing muslims
>implying no such thing as crusades
>implying no unibomber
not impressed
the middle east and norther africa were reduced to a fundamentalist religious shithole by colonization, and then the ww2, and then the IMF.
so again, what did capitalism create?
>>687684751
Capitalism makes the poorest richer. Without capitalism there would be more people in poverty. A rising tide raises all ships.
>>687684097
The only way true communism can work is if you eliminate greed.
So basically never.
>>687684798
It's true. The simple choice of "is this work worth the wages" a person makes negates your argument.
>>687685157
Why should I care about Africa? Some misguided altruism?
>>687684926
>Implying Venezuela doesn't have sanctions on it
>Implying Venezuela is also the only representation of a system without Capitalism
>Implying that Venezuela is post-state communism
>Implying you know what you are talking about
>>687679828
Capitalism will also destroy this.
France is bankrupt because of its social policy. The socialist welfarism broke the country and drove away many large companies that generate jobs and big tax payers .
>>687685224
this has been literally proven false.
>>687684968
you don't know anything about africa do you
>>687685224
>implying everyone has ships
>implying some people weren't making a living on the ground that's now above water
>>687685288
not when there are no other options.
>>687685037
It was easily maintainable. General Motors was making record profits, even with Germany's Volkswagon starting to compete.
>>687685376
More than you do, fuckboi
>>687683129
No, Capitalism created this; faggot
>>687685474
>fuckboi
/credibilty
>>687684097
no true communism right?
>>687685313
>implying there re contryes with socialism on it which are not a shit hole
>implying you are not a fag
>>687683652
The wall is not high enough
>>687685028
>>687685606
U MAD?!
>>687685357
No it hasn't. Learn basic economics kiddo. Free enterprise has been proven to eliminate poverty. Global poverty is currently the lowest it's been in the history of the world, and it's thanks to capitalism.
>>687685005
It's why no one here knows the answer. You are lazy you think the government should take care of you as your mother cares . Go work , tramp .
>>687683732
Maths were invented by babylonians 3000 years before the invention of islam
>>687685161
>Are you fucking daft?
Hello? Can you read?
Income
Inequality
I didn't say
>physical inequality
or
>natural resource inequality
But I can see that you are a Social Darwinist because you are bringing a misconstrued version of evolution into this.
>>687683732
You don't even know what a blackboard is, sandnigger.
>>687684440
read some fucking smith or hayek you faggot. Money and prices act as information to allocate labour to competing ends.
>>687683441
Jesus christ when did /b/ get so bluepilled?
>>687685748
I guess you can just define "poverty" in whatever way you want to fit your script, then.
>>687685425
So it's someone else's job to make you valuable in the workforce?
>inb4 iCarly generation rant about how socialism is the future.
>>687685820
Inequality is natural
>>687685286
>Implying there can only be ONE alternative to Capitalism and that ONE alternative is Stalinism as employed by the Soviet Union
>>687683732
No, you retard. That's the work of Arabs, not of Islam. Islam's contribution to that was burning it down and passing it to the Greeks.
>>687685748
that's waht i'm talking abaout. This anon know things!
>>687685696
>Implying that Scandinavian countries are not socialist states
>Implying that being a fag matters on /b/
>>687682800
>implying there could be labor without capital to pay for it
fedora faggot
>>687685820
Do you not understand that the two go hand in hand? The junkies on the streets of the inner cities, do you think, capitalism turned them into that? They have no will. They are feral and selfish and impulsive and lack control.
People without impulse control can't amass wealth as easily as a stoic thinker.
Your idea is frankly absolutely absurd. It's laughable, and you'd think so if you had the sense to think through what it means. Think about the origins of society and what and who humans are, and look for the truth yourself. I'm tired of spoonfeeding you children.
>>687679828
true, and now imagine how much better it would look like if most money wasn't harbored by a chosen few, but put to use in a way where everyone profits.
like technological advances, curing diseases and all that stuff that isn't interesting for big companies if it can't be turned into money.
capitalism is at an end. it worked when people had to build the basis, now we need to evolve.
>>687685907
I don't think we were born clutching fistfulls of shillings or pennies.
>nature did this
>>687685895
Poverty has metric standards you fool. If you take the IMF's definition of poverty, you can see it decease continually over time, especially since the rise of globalism and free trade. It's lower than it's ever been
>>687685161
>implying you suffer from maximum mental retardation
not the poster but:
income inequality <!=> unequal income
>>687686137
you do realize that is all the government should be doing right?
>>687685606
>>687685474
nice response, straight outta 1st grade
>>687685784
man that perspective tho, underage?
>>687685895
go learn some economics you commie fag
>>687686239
Money doesn't even exist, moron. It represents value, and value has always existed, and it has never been equally disbursed. What kind of goddamn fairy tale made you think that?
>>687683737
>Embargo
Why did they not just trade with everyone else? There are at least 150 countries different from the USA to trade.
Answer: Because even having that into account, socialism is NEET thinking taken at national level
>>687683817
Or a picture of Hong Kong, or London, or Sydney, or...
>>687685313
>implying there are no countries that would buy Venezuela's oil.
>implying Venezuela isn't the shining example of socialism
>implying you won't say that every failed socialist experiment was just not a "real" socialism
>implying you know what you are talking about
>>687686264
just because something is better than before doesn't mean it's good.
>>687685949
Didn't say Capitalism is the only alternative did I?
Just said communism could never work
Learn to read.
Social and capitalism suck dick. In my opinion dictatorships and monarchies produce the best architecture.
>>687684419
Capitalism didn't pay for it. Capitalism, by definition, can't add value to anything.
organized labor created that and got paid fair wages
>>687686295
>2016 not knowing how to â‰
>>687686196
>do you think capitalism turned them into that?
>they have no will
>they lack control
People are hardly born druggies or drug dealers (although drug dealers are capitalists). The environment creates such people and an environment that stresses financial success that is also impoverished will produce druglords. The druglords will, in turn, produce addicts. It's not surprising.
>>687685645
many queers dreaming of true communism in 2016 , this is absurdly funny ! haahha
>>687679828
Yup, that is one of many things capitalism has created, many of which have not been good things. Whether or not big cities are a good thing is also debatable.
>>687686436
That's the stupidest fucking thing I've heard and a total non-argument
>>687686392
I was being humorous. I know, such a thing is a crime here.
>>687686436
>Poverty is disappearing
>But the world is totally a worse place for it guys trust me
>>687686355
>>687686264
This is the shit I'm talking about fool, do you see that? "Absolute poverty"?
You can make up any definition to fit your scripts. Just because someone doesn't have 0 income and the state sends them a little stipend doesn't mean they aren't still in poverty. People all over the US, a first world country, are living in poverty. Look at the US south, most of the people are poor.
>>687686436
way to dodge the question
>>687686099
this is the BIGGEST meme ever
Socialism is not welfare state
Welfare state cannot exist in socialist countries sporting more than certain dozens of millions of people
Socialism does not allow for private entrepeneurship, do they not allow people to create business or investing in stocks, you fucktard?
Kill yourself with your favorite dildo, please
>>687679956
This
>>687686392
>not working to get over how your father screamed this at you like a normal well adjusted human
>>687686295
The way you're equating the two, yes they are equal. Assuming that the parents who birthed your sorry ass should have the same resources as everyone else is where your shit falls apart. You get what you're able to produce. Leveraging your skills, talent, and labor is how you earn more than others.
Don't be assmad that other people can out negotiate you in the hiring process or that you took that shitty liberal arts degree instead of a science degree.
>>687686355
yeah, you show absolute poverty.
we're talking about subjective poverty. people who can't afford education or healthy food or medical attention.
just because the poorest people decreased it doesn't mean there is less poverty.
>>687686226
The problem with this is capitalism entices people to actually work and strive for something.
Take away the insensitive to earn anything that they work for and most people will end up being lazy fucks.
>>687686405
>Implying the value of oil is the same as it was
>Implying that the "Socialist in Chief GOddamned Nigger Moslem of America" didn't enforce sanctions on Venezuela
>Implying that Colombia (an American puppet) isn't attempting to saboteur Venezuela
>>687679828
>Capitalism created this
and it sucks. good job, capitalism.
>>687686759
There are different metrics you can use, and every one is on a decrease. The people in poverty in the US? Better off than they were 50 years ago. The people in Africa in poverty? Better off than they were 50 years ago.
>>687686629
You need to wake up, son. You say "people" like there's some global standard. You don't know people if you believe that. They are as different from each other as you can imagine. More so apparently.
>>687686594
>labor created that and got paid fair wages
yes!
http://www.strawpoll.me/10369574
.
>>687683240
Slave labor created dubai
>>687686787
>welfare state
I can imagine you watch Fox.
>>687686436
Fuck making progression.
I want to see a utopia now!
You're dumb as fuck man.
And the jews created this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3ugHP-yZXw
But you don't see me turning into a cuck...
STFU and check em.
>>687686340
>you do realize that is all the government should be doing right?
You say that as if a ruler would be wise and powerful enough to know how and where to employ everyone within a nation
Besides, government does not create value. It can create money, nothing more.
>>687684751
eastern eurotrash cartoon detected
>>687686759
stupid point
Even if you are ONLY talking about absolute poverty, which we're not, but it's better than absolute poverty is dropping
>>687687034
Rerolling because Illuminati stole my dubs...
>>687686530
By definition you are a faggot. The context was in response to some faggot implying that the people who built the city weren't compensated by people/ municipalities investing capital into something they saw value in.
>>687683360
I'm John Galt
>>687686919
Yes, because the geographic location you are born totally debilitates you morally.
>>687687137
my nigga
>>687687015
And what about I said was false or an exageration?
>>687683559
It's easy to be 'patriotic' when you have a gun pointed to your head.
>>687686749
>Poverty is disappearing
did your American highschool textbooks teach you that?
read some independent thoughts fucker
>>687687121
>uh faggot I was talking to another faggot
>you faggot
Excuse me, I am another faggot and I am here to call you a faggot
Faggot
>>687686749
>>687686785
see
>>687686867
i mean come on. "poverty is disappearing"? how fucking delusional are you.
>"A 2013 report from the group stated that the $240 billion added to the fortunes of the world's richest billionaires in 2012 was enough to end extreme poverty four times over. Oxfam Executive Director Jeremy Hobbs said that "We can no longer pretend that the creation of wealth for a few will inevitably benefit the many – too often the reverse is true.""
>>687686759
you're currently making up your own definition, the reality is that most people today are objectively materially better off due to capitalism.
>>687685896
They wouldn't even be hired if they weren't valuable.
>>687679828
it also caused this. There is nothing wrong with capitalism, but when a nations economy is pure capitalism, unregulated due to the greed and corruption of a handful of people then it becomes detrimental to society.
>>687687326
>Let's take peoples money and spend it on useless niggers
how about no
>>687687138
No it doesn't, what the fuck are you even talking about now? That's absurd. I'm done talking to you. Your trolling isn't even funny.
Goddamn you people are idiots.
>>687686596
>implying you are faster than me
>implying you know all unicodes chars from memory
again, theres a difference:
not knowing <!=> not using
go fuck yourself squishy faggot
>>687687220
nothing, he's just a faggot trying to divert the argument
>>687687298
Faggot.
You guys leftys are very " smart " , only thing you nkow is bankrupt all countries that can lay hands on . Argentina , Greece , Venezuela , Russia, Brazil , France ...
>>687686867
>just because the poorest people decreased it doesn't mean there is less poverty
wtf.jpg
that is literally what it means, poverty ≠inequality
>>687687287
I'm not American, but nice try kiddo
Every economist and financial metric indicates it. But hey, keep trying to sound educated on the internet when in reality you don't have a clue how economics works
Don't worry guys, socialism is TOTALLY the way forward
>>687687015
You literally cannot think for yourself, can you? You've been trained and conditioned to identify certain key words which, if anyone says them, you simply purge their words, thoughts, and opinions from your little bubble.
>oh, someone said "welfare state," they must be FOXNEWS watching neanderthals
That the term is legitimate, well defined, and actually used by the system's advocates is irrelevant. In fact, you don't even know this because you're titanically ignorant.
And you've been trained to protect that ignorance like gold, by being conditioned to shut out anything that might enlighten you.
You have abandoned sentience. You are something less than human. Animals, even insects, can notice, register, and respond to new, surprising information and adapt. But you can't.
Congratulations.
>>687685896
not someone else's job, but society and government do have a responsibility to the citizens.
>>687687006
yes, you right on that!
>>687687451
Obviously!
>>687687058
nice b8
I bet robots terrify you too
>>687686884
the opposite is true. experiments in small towns (1970s in alaska, some towns in namibia, etc.) showed that with an unconditional basic income that covers the cost of living, people actually showed up to 30% increased productivity.
the idea that only money motivates people to work has officially been debunked.
>>687683441
The people of New York and New Jersey built this for office space for international trading companies.
>>687685809
maths wasnt 'invented' by any specific civilization - many of the ancients had their own understanding and developments in math and science.
Capitalism sucks , but it's the best we have . All other alternatives have failed miserably . No use arguing against facts , accept the truth.
>>687687671
Like what?
>>687687760
>b8
I'm serious about that, Carl
>>687679828
Is that a problem or...?
>>687680226
>Implying that they actually deserve more than they make
>>687687138
Hey, anon, is this your fedora? I think you dropped it.
>>687686854
I've got an engineers degree in information technology
><!=> NOT EQUAL
amateur
>>687679828
>Capitalism created this
What you don't see in the shadows is the homeless people, the thugs and the junkies. Those were created by capitalism too.
>>687679956
Yeah, capitalism.
Communism and capitalism are lazy and incapable people conversations , people who want to live at the expense of others.
>>687686884
There's two problems with capitalism.
One is that it requires wealth to be infinite to work properly. The more people succeed, the more wealth becomes concentrated in the hands of the few. You see this happening now with the fact that the top 10% have simply doubled their total wealth over the last 30 years, reducing the amount of wealth available for everyone else. If a trend like this were to continue, how much wealth do you think you would have left?
The second problem with Capitalism is that it doesn't actually entice you to work; it entices you to make money. I can make this money by either working, or by slying every bit of cash i can. I can use cheap materials, make products that break easily (Microwaves 30 years ago vs today), and I can underpay my staff as much as possible. This is why today you get chain store employees that need food stamps to survive whereas in the past you could work at any store and make enough cash to buy a house.
Capitalism may have worked during the golden age, but it is dying. It needs to either reset, or be morphed into something more.
>>687687598
are you a special kind of retarded?
just because there are less people who live on 1,25$/day doesn't mean the total amount of people who don't earn enough to afford a decent life decreased.
it just says that the poorest people are not that poor anymore. but still poor.
>>687686397
>Why did they not just trade with everyone else? There are at least 150 countries different from the USA to trade.
Because the US doesn't trade with countries that trade with countries the USA put an embargo on, you dumb fuck.
>>687688063
>implying junkies were created as a result of capitalism rather than government regulation of drugs
>>687679828
was this taken from the "top of the rock" :>)
>>687685461
Unions really killed everything.
>>687682494
you forgot all the air pollution
>>687687532
at least you know you're greedy.
we're not talking about taking YOUR money. we are talking about taking money from corporations that evade billions of dollars in taxes.
we're talking about taxing financial transactions.
a 0,45% on financial transactions would generate enough money to pay EACH american citizen 22k$ a year.
nobody would even feel this.
>>687680226
they cant even remember to put straws in the fucking bag why do they deserve as much as me?
>>687688312
Many Spanish businesses in Cuba
Cuba is a failure due to it's socialist economic model not the Yankee
>>687688186
like a sais, it's not the ideal, but it is waht we have!
>>687687782
Fucking beautiful piece of the skyline
>>687688668
engineering can only develop because of capitalism.
>>687688312
Canada trades with Cuba and USA.
>>687688233
people have lived on next to nothing for almost all of human history, capitalism has allowed us to escape from that, just look at the exponential progress that we have made in the past couple hundred years.
Sure, poverty's a problem but it's shrinking at a pace never before seen in human history.
>>687687774
There's a difference in work.
Whats more beneficial to a society.
Construction workers, working on a farm in sweltering heat, other shit jobs
Or being an artist, musician, or philosopher
No body actually wants to do the shit jobs that keep a society going
>>687680786
I wouldn't be a pedo but I'd eat some tight 14 year olds
complains of capitalism but uses iPhone 6s
>>687684441
Arabic numerals were invented in India.
>>687684926
the only thing i can think of when i see pictures like that...
imagine how many sexy 16 year old girls live in that mass of shit.
complains of capitalism but has 20 nike shoes pairs.
>>687688464
You are an idiot, the 60-70s had a peak union membership. Also a time when upward mobility was real and the middle class grew. Also a time of great films, pushing for rights, and great music.
I'm not saying unions made the seventies what they were but it certainly helped. Read a book
complains of capitalism but uses the Web everyday.
>>687688063
pre GI Bill?
>>687688145
You big dummy. The workforce is compensated for their knowledge or labor. Slavery doesn't exist in the US
>>687688518
>implying a financial transactions tax would have no negative effects on stock market liquidity and volatility. But when has the stock market ever been a problem?
>>687685345
>large companies that are big tax payers
KEK
as if those exist
>>687688186
I agree that the current state of capitalism needs to be fixed.
I do not want communism however.
There has never been a working form of communism that hasn't ended in total shit.
you made it! a quints of 2
>>687685748
i lol'ed. it's cute that you think anything going on even remotely resembles free-market capitalism, let alone proves that FMC has any power to eliminate poverty.
the bar for poverty is so low, look at wealth distribution and then consider your original statement again. it's unsupportable.
>>687688814
ok, i'll stop responding to you. posting the world's gdp in an attempt to prove your point in a working financial concept?
what the actual fuck, go educate yourself.
>>687688837
on the contrary. shit jobs or hard jobs, or jobs that need very special knowledge simply have to be payed very well or made more attractive.
that's exactly what happened there by the way.
people kept working shit jobs but looked for a way to improve them, since the pressure of securing your existence by working the shit job vanished.
>>687686264
>take the IMF's definition
the IMF -- a neo-liberal free-market capitalist board that dictates the ebb and flow of global capitalism to the benefit of its constituents
holy shit are you brainwashed or what, kid?
>>687689158
>pre GI Bill?
He's probably just lying.
Also look at his face. Does he look smart to you? Would you imagine him to be a good student easily passing exams?
>>687686355
oh capitalism, where "not absolute poverty" is the bar you want to clear.
>>687689191
i wrote it wrong,
Communism and socialism are lazy and incapable people conversations , people who want to live at the expense of others.
I agree with you, i'm capitalist,and hate those loosers communists talk.
>>687688186
>reducing the amount of wealth available for everyone else
The economy is not a zero-sum game.
>The second problem with Capitalism is that it doesn't actually entice you to work; it entices you to make money.
And how do you make money? By providing a good/service to people who then choose to voluntarily hand you their cash.
>>687686260
only true statement here
>>687689455
You can use any metric you like. People's living conditions are improving and they have more money and employment. Absolute free market capitalism isn't good, but capitalism as a whole is.
>>687689253
>stock market liquidity
oh boy. it's 0,45% kiddo.
money can be produced. all you need is a law to settle prices and you don't even have to worry about inflation.
god damn it, it's like i'm talking to 12 year olds here.
>>687689258
>>687689258
I do not know in your country , but here any company pays too much taxes .
>>687689600
How about the vast majority of economists who don't have a vested interest, all of whom say the same thing?
and nuclear war and global warming and ocean acidification and martin skrelli and donald trump
you should all run in the next elections for deputies . You are all so smart ...
>>687689832
let's talk productivity vs wages
wealth gap
etc.
the rich get richer, the poor stay just above that threshold, and the rich declare poverty fixed while inequality in income, wealth, and compensation for productivity continue to soar
>>687690032
[citation needed]
>>687689760
no.
a vast majority of the money is made by speculating on future events, and giving out loans.
you selling goods or your service is a slowly dying, 40 year old concept.
that's basic economy, friend.
>>687679828
And look how shit it is
>>687690223
Wage gap is irrelevant. As long as the poor get richer (which they do) then the gap widening doesn't matter.
>>687690308
the people who make the most money make their money by telling other people who make money how to make money. all that money is skimmed out of every possible profit margin throughout the actual goods-and-services economy, which operates threadbare and has for 30+ years.
>>687690260
Pick up literally any peer-reviewed economics study ever
>>687679828
it will probably be nuked in under 100 years too
>>687689929
0.45% is pretty significant when dealing with large amounts of money.
>money can be produced. all you need is a law to settle prices and you don't even have to worry about inflation.
settle prices? what like price controls?
>>687690457
tell that to the 1920s USA or 1930s germany, you dumb cunt.
>>687690457
>IF EVERYONE WORKS HARD AND STOPS BEING SUCH A PUSSY, WE CAN ALL BE RICH!!! CAPITALISM! CAPITALISM! CAPITALISM!
Hey I just wanna say there are alotta good arguments here. And I appreciate this thread
>not irony
>>687690308
this.
anyone who only gets paid for the time they work is doing it wrong.
including myself, but i was never in the starting position that some are fortunate enough to be in.
>>687690547
that's not a citation, dipshit. i'm a professor of mathematics at a university with a highly acclaimed economics department. "duh, everybody say so" is a red flag for "i don't know what the fuck i'm saying." so fuck off ;)
>>687690308
>implying buying and selling are dying out
wtf
>>687679828
ITT: People pretending that a system that necessitates never-ending growth to survive makes any sense
Capitalism must evolve or die. If growth stops the financial sector dies because they can't make loans anymore, and all natural resources upon which industry relies are finite.
>>687690731
You must have sucked a lot of cock to get that job then
>>687690618
Nice strawman.
A rising tide raises all ships
>>687683964
>McDonalds worker deserves the same pay as a doctor
>>687690731
>i'm a professor of mathematics at a university with a highly acclaimed economics department.
>>687679828
capitalism created it, let communism enjoy it
>>687690731
If you're a professor, why are you so bad at economics? Why don't you know how the world works?
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>>687689954
US. The actual tax rates are hardly relevant to how much the companies pay because there are so many loopholes and ways to evade. I can't imagine things are any different in your country.
And this
>>687690731
Volume 110, Issue 465, The Economic Journal Royal Economic Society.
DOI: 10.1111/1468-0297.00558
>>687690223
>wealth gap
That is literally irrelevant if life conditions are going up for everyone.
Pic related.
Now repeat after me:
thank you capitalism that i dont have to work 12h/day
thank you capitalism that i wont die at 35 from flu/vikings invading my village/hunger
thank you capitalism for allowing us to reach the stars
>>687691324
>thank you capitalism that i dont have to work 12h/day
>thank you capitalism that i wont die at 35 from flu/vikings invading my village/hunger
>thank you capitalism for allowing us to reach the stars
>>687684527
But then the rich don't get richer fast enough
