/b/, i'm seriously starting to believe that flat earth theory just might be true. i did a lot of research the last couple of months and the data is just... overwhelming.
>ITT: we discuss FET
>>687136279
>did lots of research
>data is overwhelming
>no data or research given
>>687136385
this is a thread for discussion but of course i'll give some interesting information i found.
If the sun were truly 93 million miles away, then all light that finally reached earth would have to be running parallel when it reaches us.
Yet, when you see the sun's rays beaming through the clouds - at all angles - you can see that that's CLEARLY not the case. The sun's apparent movement in the sky works both ways, mathematically.
>>687136484
it would help if you actually posted a question or your opinion about FET.
The amount of stupidity in this thread is above average already, even with a number of posts this small. Well done.
>>687136767
Thank you for illuminating us all with your wisdom. Moving along:
From all altitudes, as far as your eye can see, the horizon is completely flat and raises to eye level. The supposed curve of the earth is actually just the vanishing point of your vision from your perspective.
Won't be long before the rounders come in spouting about muh gravity and shit.
Welcome to the intelligent side, op. The side that knows water doesn't curve around a planet, and that gravity does not make things a perfect sphere like a cue ball.
>Explain gravity
>Why cant we see the moon/sun all the time if they "orbit" the way on your pic?
>Explain the horizon that you can fucking see with your own eyes
>Explain the seasons
and give some of your "overwhelming data"
>>687136982
>explain the seasons
Are you that fucking dense you need an explanation for seasons? Has nothing to do with shape of the earth, it could be fucking square and we'd still have seasons. I'm not a flat earther, but using seasons is just dumb.
>>687136757
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle
>>687136966
Word.
>>687136982
I am giving my data. Please limit your posts to one question at a time and, if i can, i'll try to answer.
As for gravity, in the Flat Earth model, 'gravity', rather than being a force, is the upward acceleration of the Earth. The Earth always accelerates upward at 1g, which is equivalent to the gravitational acceleration in the Round Earth model. Like the force of gravity, the Earth's acceleration causes several commonly observed phenomena in our daily lives.
Been doing my own research for months OP, and a geocentric model makes more sense than a heliocentric model. The Earth being a plane (not a planet) makes more logical sense than me being a monkey on a spinning ball.
The Sun and the Moon are the same size (like they appear during an eclipse). They are yin and yang. Life, and death. They create "Moonths", and "Seasuns"
>>687136279
> lot of research
youtube comments aint a research source boi
Also the sun isn't 93 million miles away, or it wouldn't leave a small hot spot.
This is fun.
>>687136509
Just as parallel train tracks appear to converge in the distance, crepuscular rays appear to converge due to perspective. When viewed from above, the rays are all parallel.
>>687137274
It won't be long before everyone finally sees the truth.
>>687136279
Then why can I see farther when I'm elevated? If the earth were flat, it shouldn't make a difference how high I am (assuming an unobstructed view of course)
Sorry friend, the earth is not flat
>>687137458
THIS. pic related.
Yeah dude earth is flat.. but everything else in the universe isnt. Enjoy your autism
>>687136279
Commercial space flight. It's going to happen in your life time. What bullshit excuses will flat believers have. When people are seeing the earth is round while they fly other side of the planet?
none. You will have none. Just like you have no valid reason to explain why hiding the shape of the earth is important.
Remember. Commercial space flight. Seeing the earth curve with your own eyes in high orbit. Only seeing one half of the earth with your own eyes, because the rest is on the other side.
How the hell would sunsets work. If the world was flat, wouldn't the sun shine on every point of earth at the same time? And how would the sun go over the horizon at different time?
Besides what does this "world conspiracy" that the earth is flat accomplish. Tell me this: who benefits from convinced the public the world is round, why would the "all powerful" government want to waste their time doing that?
>>687137627
>thinking flat means no changes in elevation
Mountains are still a thing m8
I haven't come to /b/ in a month and this is the first thing I see? Neck yourself you autistic fuck.
>>687137458
92.63 million miles, considering the distance, rounding up to 93m is more than acceptable.
You're dismissed, next?
>>687137203
You know why we have seasons right ?
>guess not
>>687137422
http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2015/08/200-proofs-earth-is-not-spinning-ball.html
Plenty of books have been written by people who won't accept the load of bullshit they've been fed since they were 6.
We don't need no education
We don't need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave them kids alone
Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone!
All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
All in all you're just another brick in the wall.
If the earth is flat, why do u see a rounded moon? Is the moon flat too?
>>687137871
Who you talking to, bish?
>>687137865
lol, take any completely unobstructed view, such as on the ocean, why do you think observation posts are so high on ships?
>>687137485
No, that's not how it works. Light from the sun shouldn't be coming in from a singular point in the round earth model.
>>687137627
Pic related. This might help you understand.
>>687137888
The Earth's axis is tilted at 23.4 degrees
"Earth's obliquity oscillates between 22.1 and 24.5 degrees on a 41,000-year cycle. It is currently 23.4 degrees and decreasing."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_tilt
90° - 23.4° = 66.6
>>687137906
Well you know how to greentext, that's about all you know. Which is clear, because all you do is state something in an elementary school manner, and that's it.
You're a one pump chump with nothing to back yourself up, go back to your trap thread
>>687137949
>http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2015/08/200-proofs-earth-is-not-spinning-ball.html
200 "proofs" with no fucking sources other than images with arrows and "cuz i said so"
>>687137769
"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance" - Albert Einstein
>>687137798
IF it happens. IF.
>>687137849
The equator stretches over 25,000 miles, which means the sun moves beyond the vanishing point.
>>687136279
Flat earth theory is such good b8 it should illegal.
>>687138163
>Light from the sun shouldn't be coming in from a singular point
but the sun is a singular point. explain yourself.
>>687138446
It's already happening.
What is this IF shit?
>>687136279
holy shit anon you figured it out
your research has paid off
the history books will write us as heros
>what the fuck is with the weak trolls now
You deluded daft motherfuckers.... Have none of you flat earthers ever taken a commercial jet flight? You can SEE that shit is curved. I am a land surveyor that uses high precision gps equipment for measurements. I'll guaranteefuckingtee you that the earth is a globe.
>>687138002
Why do you assume that every planet has to be an identical shape?
Obviously they won't be dodecahedrons or any tarted up shit like that, but it's very reasonable to accept various shapes of round
Makes total sense
No star in the universe is flat ( cuz of gravity ) yet somehow Earth is... Kill yourself.. ye dude it's just us that we are flat. I hope u fucking die retard
>>687138312
That's incorrect and you're fucking stupid. Just stop.
>>687138446
How far away do you think the sun is? The sun bathes all of one side of the earth, and more, why do you think the Suns light just wouldn't shine past a certain sphere? If the sun was near the North Pole, the entire earth would be bathed in light all the time
>>687138396
And I bet you worship NASA CGI images.
It's much easier to be an ignorant sheep. Ignorance is bliss after all.
Accepting the fact you've been lied to your entire life, using common sense, and intuition is actually difficult.
>>687138446
>vanishing point
>IF
>Albert Einstein
kek. no worries newfags, proof of bait on these threads. no one is this retarded.
how can you explain the photos taken from the moon? :'v
>>687136509
light spreads
back to highschool with you
>>687138734
>Uses a sampling of 7 items
>Assumes that proves beyond a doubt
Well there you have it, 7 other planets are round so every other one must be as well.
>>687136279
>ITT: We talk about how much of a retarded faggot OP is
fixed*
>>687138734
its true tho
>>687138002
They're apparently gaseous, not really solid. Earth is very different from the objects in the sky.
>>687138623
It is a spotlight, in fact, in the FET model... but in your model, it's really fucking huge.
>>687138650
Have YOU ever been on one? Didn't think so.
>>687138660
How did Loran work with no satellites? Pseudollites are stationed around the disk, and your position is triangulated from these beacons.
All other logical arguments aside, just look at the refraction of light due to the curvature of our atmosphere.
http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/175873/earth-curvature-refraction-for-dummies
>>687138734
Earth is "special" as in truly sui generis. “Other planets” aren't giant distant globes as we've been told. Referred to as the "wandering stars" by Flat Earthers, these are seen as heavenly bodies that project light, and mainly differ from stars only in their motion movement.
>>687136279
why do ships seem to lower as they go past the horizon? If it were flat, they should just keep getting smaller and small until they disappear
ATTENTION ALL WHITE EUROPEANS:
Your motherland has been overrun by muslims and your governments have BETRAYED you. Come to America the only place worth saving. There's plenty of space and work for all here.
>>687139167
kill yourself
>>687138850
what are you trying to prove with that image?
jetstreams are a thing. fly with them and you go faster, fly against and you use more time. not rocket science or flat earth shit
>>687138748
A lot of the biggest proponents of Flat Earth Theory are those who started out determined to prove it was wrong. So, be my guest and disprove it. Be intellectually honest and really look at the evidence.
Or don't. Be a troll. Be closed minded and mock people for seeking the truth. Curl up with your warm safety blanket of indoctrination and have a great laugh.
I pretty much had the same reaction to the Flat Earth thing as you do about a year ago. Hundreds of hours of research changed my tune.
>>687138826
The sun circles the Earth, making a ring above the plain from a distance of around 3,500 miles. Sunlight is only visible for about a third of the earth at a given time. It has a diameter of around 32 miles, which explains why we cannot see the sun from all spots at all times.
>>687138923
They use Photoshop, it's CGI.
Everything NASA releases they use composites.
It's no secret.
Anyone with half a brain can see they aren't real.
>>687139282
Nationalism and the right wing is growing. Mudslimes gonna be send back to their shithole so dont worry
>>687138002
the moon is a disc made from your moms smegma
>>687137203
>not knowing about why seasons occur. Jesus Christ, your stupidity has no limit.
>>687136509
>93 million miles
>miles
IMPERIAL SCUM
>>687139303
Typical rounder, can't refute what he says so responds with kill yourself.
Classy. And dumb.
>>687136279
Fucking kek
>being this dense
>>687139433
Lol WW3 is going to happen
>>68713906
Surveyor here again.
The math that runs gps calculations works with a mathematical model of the earth as an oblate spheroid. God damn.
>>687139223
Simple test: try making the same visual observation using binoculars, a telescope or even a camera with zoom. It's shocking how boats that are supposedly below the Earth's curve suddenly appear with the aid of “magic” optics.
It’s all about perspective and, to a certain degree, refraction. Things start disappearing at the convergence point. At the horizon, this means from the bottom up.
>>687137906
seasons arent because of the distance between the earth and the sun, that never changes, its because of the angle that the sun hits parts of the world, so even if the earth was flat, if the suns orbit became bigger and smaller we would still have seasons.
>>687139433
Good luck and Godspeed my Brother.
>>687138973
Well, you could use those 7 examples, or the trillions of other obviously round observable planets
>>687139478
Yes we have seasons because the earth is tilted. Let me ask you very clearly, and you take your time answering so you can get it right...what does that prove?
Nothing, Earth being a disk is still tilted, still has gravity. Why can you not understand these simple things?
>>687139411
You aren't alone anon. I feel like a lot of us "woke up" at the same time.
>>687137212
"The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has limits"
- A. Einstein
>>687136842
>sun in space
>>687136279
Why have I seen the curve of the earth if it's flat
>>687138850
Prove your theory with numbers. Nothing is more correct than numbers. Numbers have brought us to the moon, given us satellites and nuclear energy, and the goddamn computer you're using to shit over 400 years of science. Nothing that I said would've happened if your 'flat earth theory' was actually true from the beginning. Grow out of your childish conspiracies.
>>687139653
If this was really how the day/night cycle worked, shouldn't I be able to see the sun with binoculars at night?
>>687139603
We dont need another White Civil War. Thats how the Jews got us in the first place.
>>687139881
Even in the round earth model, it is impossible to see the curvature of the earth, even from airplanes. It is nothing but wishful thinking and refraction.
>>687139927
Check those distances again, boy.
>>687139411
You think the sun is 3500 miles from earth . The sun is 5778 kelvin, the earth would be incinerated in seconds, body tempuature is 310 kelvin, with that amount of space, the earth would be about 5500 kelvin. You're an idiot
>>687139653
Please explain how it is a matter of perspective and refraction
>>687136842
No, we live on the inside of a concave earth.
>>687137720
...scary as fuck that no one has replied to this
Honestly this thread isn't even funny anymore. So, I'll just bring an end to this nonsense.
The Earth is not fucking round, because its flat. The Earth is flat because gravity is total bullshit and roundness is as retarded as a small, little, retarded black girl on a see saw. So yeah, the Earth is fucking flat retards. Get over it. Everything is propaganda and everything is lies. I speak the truth because I have no evidence to back it up. That's truth because the truth you've been taught is lies.
>>687136279
This person is a disinformation spreading Jew. Better run Shlomo we're onto you again.
>>687137949
You know that Another Brick in the Wall Part 2 had nothing to do with getting a decent education. It was speaking out about classroom violence and abuse by authority figures, namely teachers.
>>687136673
I'm another anon, but if you are really asking for opinions: You're retarded, FET is retarded. Anyone who thinks FET makes sense to the slightest must lack highschool grade physics knowledge. There is no way to support something as ridiculous as FET using our current knowledge of physics, and if you think our current knowledge of physics is completely inaccurate please go fuck yourself and stay away from any technology that was made possible by physics knowledge beyond 17th century. Have a nice retarded life.
>>687139777
>the trillions of other obviously round observable planets
Again, falsehoods. You do know what observable means right? I don't think you do.
Not estimated, observable. Guess again.
>>687140117
It has a diameter of 32 miles. It has nothing to do with what YOU believe the sun is, due to indoctrination.
>>687140140
Pic related.
>>687139731
>never changes
it does change cuz the orbit is not a circle, but elliptical. it changes with about 5 million kilometers
>>687138394
Im on my phone right now but i will try to explain it anyway.
What i got so far is that FET believers think that the sun is hovering at a certain distance above the earthplate,while travelling at the same speed as earth into one direction (earth moves "up" at the speed for exactly 1g pressure, to explain gravity.) But for seasons the sun had to speed up and slow down two times a year randomly to expand or lower the distance to earth.
Makes fuckin sense boi.
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>>687140183
what's to respond to? there is nothing backing up the claim
why exactly does a large spot PROVE the sun can't be that close? lol
>>687136509
Dk why falling for bait... but look up diffraction please, faggot
Of course it's flat... everything gets photoshoped even live feeds and all random shit.. am i right flat retards?
>>687138446
"Ignorance is bold and knowledge reserved"
- Thucydides
>>687140312
No, seasons work another way. Pic related.
>>687136279
>did a lot of research
Huh?
What?
How can you do ANY research and find flat earth true? You cam disprove it yourself at home, right now.
Flat earth says that gravity is. A caused by the flat earth disk floating upwards. This means if you were to gently toss a ball inot the air, the ball would have a shorter trip from thrown to peak than peak to grounded EVERY TIME because the ground would be catching up with the ball. In fact, the less force you put into throwing up its the air, regardless of maximum height achieved, the quicker the travel time would be back down. However, the time an object takes to reach its pinnacle to landing is always a function of mass, gravity, and drag. Therefore it is impossible that "gravity" is simply the flat earth disk moving upwards at a constant rate.
That's only 1 at home experiment, there are many more.
For instance, we knew flat earth was wrong when the Greeks measured how the sun behaved of different lines of (what we now call) latitude. The overwhelming evidence is that the earth is a ball.
![Horizon,_Valencia_(Spain)[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/I90sB4F.jpg "Horizon,_Valencia_(Spain)[1].jpg")
>>687136509
...clouds diffuse light. its literally half the reason they use fog machines at raves. to diffuse the light.
explain why the bottom of the boat disappears first as in approaches the horizon if the ocean is flat
>>687140248
Pretty neat post you made. It offers nothing to disprove anything let alone flat earth, but hey, you typed it out so you get a gold star.
There are other threads better suited for your intellect, ylyl, rate me, etc. Later.
>>687140608
Because no man has ever used a fish eye lens. Pic related.
>>687136279
And what did the data say where the edge is?
What's underneath the Earth? Is it made from stone or dirt?
Such a cucktard.
>>687136279
How would you explain the apparent motions of Venus and Mercury? Neither stray far from the sun and are only visible during either dusk or dawn, occasionally moving behind or in front of the sun. This would imply that they orbit closer to the sun than the Earth. How would this fit into the "Flat Earth, Spotlight Sun" hypothesis?
this entire thread
>>687140249
"observable- able to be observed"-Merriam-Webster dictionary
If you can look at it, you can observe it
>>687140284
That's not true, because my scientists say so. I'm not right because your scientists say so. It's an endless cycle, you'll never believe the millions of papers because you think it's a conspiracy, but you'll believe the 5 papers that suggest maybe it's possible. So keep living in your little fantasy world with no real evidence, thinking you're right but knowing deep down you're wron
>>687136279
> did reasearch
It isn't research if you spend hours on youtube channels of people who say one thing.
>>687140645
Due to special relativity, this is not the case. At this point, many will question the validity of any answer which uses advanced, intimidating-sounding physics terms to explain a position. However, it is true. The relevant equation is v/c = tanh (at/c). One will find that in this equation, tanh(at/c) can never exceed or equal 1. This means that velocity can never reach the speed of light, regardless of how long one accelerates for and the rate of the acceleration.
>>687140712
Lurk moar. These issues have been tackled.
>>687140090
I never "wished" the earth was flat as a kid. Give me something substantial instead of "its magic and youre tricking yourself" faggot
>>687140744
Ye dude it's those damn nasa gopro cameras
>>687140758
Only the military powers of the world would know. They've been digging secret underground bases for centuries. They have digging technology that is straight out of sci-fi books.
The deepest 'civilians' have ever gone is supposed to be 8 miles down, done in Russia. At 8 miles their drill bits were said to become ineffective but I think that's been another fake story meant to keep us from discovering the truth.
The problem with digging is that you don't have to dig far, for it to get extremely hot. You can learn something about the earth's composition by studying seismic waves. That the earth has a magnetic field is indicative that there's something big and metallic in there.
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>>687136509
the sun is illuminati
>>687139791
The earth is tilted on an axis, and it also has an oval orbit, which explains why half the earth has summer while half has winter, then vice versa. Any other stupid fucking questions you want answered?
I know this is bait, I don't care.
>>687140835
And how many planets are actually visible?
We aren't talking about guessing how many planets there are based on the fact that x many planets are in this x sized area. That's not observable.
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>>687140930
oh you mean this?
>The supposed curve of the earth is actually just the vanishing point of your vision
then why does just the bottom disappear first. considering the base of the boat is the largest part, and would be closer then the items on the deck
why do the closer objects disappear first
I don't believe that anyone in this thread is in fact a flat earther. The very notion is truly stupider than even 4chan should ever be.
>>687139882
Perhaps, you should try the "math"
Using the Pythagorean theorem, the Earth calculates to an average curvature of 7.98 inches per mile or approximately 8 inches per mile.
Kansas is 82,277 mi²
Kansas is also flatter than a pancake.
Ever look at Kansas album covers?
Eratosthenes discovered the Earth was 25k miles in circumference, without even leaving Egypt. And you think this guy had a fucking clue how big the Earth is measuring shadows? It's no surprise their own math doesn't add up.
I know you've deceived me, now here's a surprise
I know that you have 'cause there's magic in my eyes
I can see for miles and miles and miles and miles and miles
Oh yeah
The Eiffel Tower and the Taj Mahal are mine to see on clear days
You thought that I would need a crystal ball to see right through the haze
>>687139853
"I would no trust an /b/tard about no quote"
K. Barbie
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>>687140444
Pretty sure that's a reflection of the sun in the clouds. Clouds reflect and also diffuse, so the spot that would reflect is brighter than the spot that only diffuses.
>>687141051
>That the earth has a magnetic field is indicative that there's something big and metallic in there.
Yeah, a gigantic liquid iron core thousands of miles across.
>>687141258
Pic related. Stop being retarded.
>>687136279
>>687138446
if this was true then why does the sun set
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>>687141396
Where's the south pole in the flat earth model?
>>687138734
Its because there is no fucking idiots in other planets such as Uranus.
>>687141392
omg did they build a city under water?
>>687141195
You didn't answer anything, so yea, still have more "stupid fucking questions".
You are stating one reason that a planet can have seasons, yes, but you haven't disproved why a disk shaped object could not have those similar seasons.
Every flat earth argument i see is just "no what you know is fake. I see your evidence and its false because what you know is fake." And it circles on and on for 250 fucking posts. Nothing ever changes, the bait never gets juicier and those who bite rarely add anything substantial. These threads are simply boring.
>>687141392
That is photoshop.. sorry
>>687141350
"You're one of us"
- A giant faggot
>>687136279
1. You literally cannot be more retarded.
2. Putting everything aside, what would anyone have to gain from having everyone believe the Earth is a sphere rather than a plane? Absolutely nothing. there's no reason that Copernicus would start this huge global conspiracy that is basic fucking knowledge.
3. In all honesty, don't reproduce and kill yourself, like actually kill yourself, not in the way everyone on /b/ jokes with morbid humor, I think you should absolutely die.
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>>687140930
fuck, theres an even better question: if its just the vanishing point of your vision, why do you see the same thing with binoculars?
>>687141293
You could measure curvature, if it actually existed. They say the round earth is 25,000 miles in circumference. So, using spherical trigonometry, the curvature figures to 8 inches per mile squared. The mile is squared so the first mile is 8 inches, 8x1x1 = 8, the second miles 8x2x2 = 32, the third mile is 8x3x3=72 etc.
This is the kind of curvature you would see on a ball 25,000 miles in circumference. Even if it were 100,000 miles in circumference there would be a measurable curve, that is just not observed except when viewed through a convex window or using a lens effect.
>>687141357
It's A BINGO! Nice reasoning, mate.
While it's true that unipolar magnets can't exist, this isn't a problem for the Flat Earth. This is because ring magnets, which are shaped like (you guessed it!) a flat disk, are capable of having radial magnetization. In a radial magnet, one magnetic pole is at the center and other other is at all points on the edge of the magnet. A magnet like this can be found in loudspeakers, and perfectly replicates what is found on the Earth.
>>687136509
But you can test diffraction with a globe and holes in paper with a lightbulb...
>>687141392
It is part of the natural physics of water and other fluids to always find their level and remain flat. If disturbed in any way, motion ensues until the flat level is resumed. If dammed up then released, the nature of all liquids is to quickly flood outwards taking the easiest course towards finding its new level.
Physics prove water can't be a sphere?
>>687136279
ITT: retards
>>687141462
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>>687141462
I'm sure that any mapping of Antarctica wouldn't match up to reality. Unless it is mapped by an independent party - that has absolutely no funding, affiliation, or oversight by any government in the world - it isn't really telling us anything other than what we already know the “official story” to be.
>>687141563
Not true, you rounders refuse to accept anything that doesn't jibe with your beliefs, so you put it off as nonsense.
If you're bored, leave the thread. Otherwise, contribute and quit whining.
>>687139167
>motion movement
>>687141392
I'm a flat earther and guess what? I'm going to make again another thread tommorow.
>>687141113
THIS WINRAR!
>>687141392
yeah exactly. you can see the small towers on top of the bigger ( and closer ) bases of the structures, and yet the closer object has disappeared first. thanks fo-oh wait, that was supposed to prove me wrong?
>>687141738
Nah, you round earth people are kinda clueless, but I wouldn't call you retards.
>>687139882
Interesting how no one replied to this, because modern science relies heavily on the round model
>>687141710
A natural and observable property of water is for it to find and maintain level in its container. We're told that on a large enough scale it curves, yet the curve is not independently observable. In fact, the opposite is true.
>>687141449
plz be polited
>>687136279
This thread literally proves how fucking retarded you amerishits are. No, i'm not talking about the fact that you think that way, i'm talking about the fact that you even try to troll with that kind of shitty bait.
This fucking website. Btw, originalfag here.
"Not observable"
If your parents didnt christen you retard mcgee they must have been crackheads
>>687141507
There's no possible way a flat disc would maintain an orbit on an x,y and z axis simultaneously. That's why we have seasons, and that's why the earth is spherical. And now your brain hurts, because physics is simply too powerful a concept for your feeble mind to comprehend.
>>687139167
Stars do move though, they are always moving which is why certain constellations can only be seen at certain times
Holy fuck this shit gave me aids
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No response? Because that was the worst argument I've ever seen. If you constantly say people with experience seeing a curved earth are just insane or lying you will never have a respectable argument
>>687136279
nothing is flat dingus. even things you're sure are flat are not really flat.
>>687140214
Well, shit. Now I'm convinced.
>>687141883
Someone did reply, you that dense you can't see that?
>>687141841
It's not their fault. We've all been brainwashed since the age of 6. First things we were taught, 1+1=2, and the Earth is round and orbits the sun. First book I ever read was about space.
>>687141113
>The sun
>Confirmed Illuminati member
If you go out to the ocean and look at the horizon, you can literally see the curve of the earth so long as there aren't any obstacles
>>687141994
Research it yourself, dumbass. Even in the round earth model it is impossible to see the supposed curvature. You'd need to be close to leaving the atmosphere before noticing it.
>>687136279
Explain gravity you little piece of shit.
>>687141947
"There's no way"
Oh, some guy on 4chan said there's no way something could happen, so that must be a fact.
Gonna need facts and figures, roundie, not just you saying that it's true just cuz.
Our whole universe might be flat, and made to seem 3d, but theories are theories
The statue of liberty stands 326 feet above sea level, and on a clear day can be seen upwards of 60 miles away. On a ball with 25,000 miles in circumference, the statue should be over 2,000 feet below/behind the horizon.
>>687137871
Well said Sir.
If the Earth really is a disk accelerating upwards, then why does gravity vary depending on latitude? Why does gravity vary at all? I mean, they look for mineral deposits with very accurate accelerometers because that lets them find denser-than-average areas and most valuable minerals are denser than the average density of the Earth's crust.
>>687140720
>I don't understand burden of proof.
>>687142192
I realize this. And I was. Youre the one with "hours of research" on the matter, please show your work.
Gravity.
Seriously, any kid can understand, Gravity makes this theory impossible.
Look to the starts and planets up above. They all flat too?
Why aren't they collapsing downwards?
Or perhaps all the planets are conveniently disk shaped, and facing towards Earth?
IF that's not the case, then what is below Earth?
And lastly, if this theory is true, what does NASA have to gain by lying?
Eat a bag of dicks. You have literally no way of answering any of these questions without sounding like an inbred retard.
Earth seen from the ISS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG0fTKAqZ5g
inb4 it's fake
>>687136279
Can anybody work this out for me ?
Pic related:
>>687138923
Humanity never reached moon. It's all just a play for dumb masses. There's radioactive field around Earth. Do your homework fag.
This is Boston
>>687142198
I knew it, a muh gravity! asshole would appear.
Why explain gravity we all know it exists. Why don't you explain why gravity disproves a disk shaped earth?
and don't talk about gravity making things spherical. Yes, it does that to an extent, but mountains and oceans are proof that it's not going to form a perfectly smooth circle.
You came unprepared for a mental battle my round earth friend.
>>687142399
Yeah, you were. Of course. /s
>>687142211
It's literally impossible. Research "euler's disc", then go fuck your dog, faggot.
>>687142198
Gravity has troubles explaining itself.
Gravity only needs to exist to contain massive bodies of water to a spinning ball.
Otherwise you can explain "gravity" with density, buoyancy, air pressure, and temperature.
Gravity is strong enough to hold oceans down, but not strong enough to keep mist from rising off of it lol?
>>687142440
>how do you explain buddhists and satanists able to levitate?
Because Gravity doesnt exist
The existence of ghosts and supernatural elements disproves it
>>687142593
You're proving my point again.
This is Sydney Australia look at the moons orentation.
>>687136279
So OP, how is a fucking flat planet formed? where is the gravitational center, how does gravity work? Can you give a standard model of the laws of motion for a 2d body in 3d space?
>>687142554
How come we can see the moon in day light when it is meant to be over the other side of the world?
>>687142387
why would the government waste so much time, money and resources to tell us the earth is round and not flat?
>>687142531
But radioactive fields arent Mudslime sharia law no-go zones and you can actually go through them safely.
>>687142554
>include helloyesthisisdog.mem
>>687142684
The moon is a hologram. This entire galaxy is a matrix hologram.
This is why glitches like ghosts occur.
Just because someone created everything doesnt mean it is.perfect without error. Same way when one designs a computer it has problems.
>>687142611
Jesus fucking christ you are retarded. Like now I feel bad for making fun of you. Were you born retarded or did you take head trauma?
>>687142755
"Some people claim there is no motive for such a grand-scale deception and that flat or a ball makes no difference. By removing Earth from the motionless center of the Universe, these Masons have moved us physically and metaphysically from a place of supreme importance to one of complete nihilistic indifference. If the Earth is the center of the Universe, then the ideas of God, creation, and a purpose for human existence are resplendent. But if the Earth is just one of billions of planets revolving around billions of stars in billions of galaxies, then the ideas of God, creation, and a specific purpose for Earth and human existence become highly implausible. By surreptitiously indoctrinating us into their scientific materialist Sun-worship, not only do we lose faith in anything beyond the material, we gain absolute faith in materiality, superficiality, status, selfishness, hedonism and consumerism. If there is no God, and everyone is just an accident, then all that really matters is me, me, me. They have turned Madonna, the Mother of God, into a material girl living in a material world. Their rich, powerful corporations with slick Sun-cult logos sell us idols to worship, slowly taking over the world while we tacitly believe their “science,” vote for their politicians, buy their products, listen to their music, and watch their movies, sacrificing our souls at the altar of materialism. To quote Morris Kline, “The heliocentric theory, by putting the sun at the center of the universe ... made man appear to be just one of a possible host of wanderers drifting through a cold sky. It seemed less likely that he was born to live gloriously and to attain paradise upon his death. Less likely, too, was it that he was the object of God’s ministrations.”
>>687142755
NASA alone, since it's inception, has been sucking up hundreds of billions in tax dollars. More importantly, though, it all boils down to control and power. The “science” religion takes humanity from a place of supreme importance and replaces it with random accidents of chance. Nothing turned into everything for no apparent reason. We're taught not to question the other side because it's "stupid". This is how they indoctrinate us and know we’re under their control.
>>687142705
>Doesn'tunderstandburdenofproof.
>>687142605
>euler's disc
>Euler's Disk is a scientific educational toy
toys are for faggots and little boys, fuck off back to /mlp/ with the rest of your kind. Men are talking serious topics here.
If the Earth is flat, how does the sun rise in one direction and set in the other?
>>687142465
Error not enough data
If you think the earth is flat I want you to leave your computer and just go west, you'll either fall off and die (please) or come back to your computer proving the earth is round
>>687138446
so by your logic, is the sun in panama much brighter then everywhere else?
>>687141051
I asked where the edge is.
There are many people who traveled across the GLOBE so someone has to have reached the edge.
Where's your "proof" of that?
Fucking troll.
>>687142611
So....... Explain gravity in flat earth
>>687142880
You sound like a Christian when I tell them God isn't real to be honest.
Did I disturb your faith? My apologies
>>687138850
clearly you've never flow long distances in an aircraft. your flight paths are as far from reality as it is possibly to be.
>>687142878
>Just because someone created everything doesnt mean it is.perfect without error.
Just like your punctuation
>>687141978
That has more to do with the movement of the Earth though. Stars do move but the distances are so vast that we can't really perceive that motion.
Planets are part of a much more closely knit system and orbit much more quicker, making their motion perceivable.
>>687143006
No one knows for sure. Many speculate Admiral Byrd found "the end of the world" in his Antarctic expeditions, and hence the Antarctic treaty and why we’re not allowed to freely roam about in any sort of independent expedition.
The theory that sounds most reasonable to me is that we are in an enclosed dome under a firmament but there is no way to know for sure. Also, the Van Allen radiation belt could act as an effective dome.
>>687142464
if you think thats real you need you head examined
>>687137212
>gravity
So, an upward acceleration of 1 g you say... then it would take approx. 3*10^7 seconds before the earth reached lightspeed. that amounts to 8333 hours, which again is 347 days. Lets just make it easier for ourselves and call that 365 days, a year. We have irrefutable proof, that the universe is AT LEAST 13.8 BILLION years old, and that earth ~5 BILLION years old. That means, that if what you claim is true, we would be moving at 5 billion times the speed of light. Since we also have proof of how time work at superlightspeed (hint, it doesnt exist. photons are everywhere and nowhere on their worldline at the same time), we can conclude that time could not possibly pass. Furthermore, the energy it takes to accelerate an object with mass to lightspeed, much less 5 BILLION times light speed, approaches infinity as v approaches c. There is not, and cannot be, enough mass (mass = energy) in the universe to accelerate ANYTHING with mass to lightspeed, even if it were just an atom or an electron, reaching 100% cannot happen. We just dont have enough energy in the universe to do that. Therefore, the flat earth theroy can be proven false.
thank you.
>>687143048
Is that why we can't fly over Antarctica, even if it's a shorter distance?
Damn these threads are fun. You're all suuuuper fucking smart but you're actually so dumb you think we actually believe earth is flat.
You claim to "know this is bait" yet you spend so much time trying to prove something we all already know.
This is dumber than the fingerbox threads, yet still, you always reply.
Been fun, but back to work now.
>>687142464
Yeah guess what im a flat earther and thats just a gopro /fish eye lens and yeah there you go argument fukd fuck everything fuck gravity we flat u like it or not
>>687142911
you still haven't explained WHY.
why would round earth = control?
>>687143181
sigh... people: lurk moar before acting all sassy.
see: >>687140930
>>687142586
Gravitation weakens with distance from center of mass. If the forces of the tectonic plates pushing mountains up through the ground is greater than the gravitational force, mountains will rise.
>>687143181
The earth is only 12,000 years old.
Back then was when thr ancient aliens came down and made us like the bible says then some aliens took human females as wives and produced mighty men.
A simple experiment for you:
Fill your sink with water.
Pull the plug.
Observe the vortex that forms. If you're on the northern hemisphere, it's a counter-clockwise vortex. If you're on the southern hemisphere, it's a clockwise vortex.
If the earth is flat, why are the vortices different depending on your location?
>>687142311
ah, no. drop is approximately 8 inches per mile. 60 miles, 40 feet.
>>687142880
Oh, I get it you're an edgelord too.
>I am smartest, my mom tell me debate me
>I never lose because I don't listen to facts and dismiss them without real proof.
>>687137720
Do you know how fucking huge the sun is? the light au see it as closer.round it is making it look a lot more bigger that it actually is making you see it as closer.clearly in your video, you CAN SEE THE CURVE.
>>687143410
>>687143380
12000 times lightspeed then. As long as the earth is older than 347 days, we are fucked. Which opens up a lot of other, more interesting questions than just the earth being flat, should that be the case.
>>687142911
>NASA takes all our moneys
>literally less than 1 percent of the federal budget
The highest budget percentage NASA has ever received was around 4 percent during the height of the Apollo program.
>>687143547
F I S H E Y E.
jesus, you people are retarded. See: >>687140744
>>687143430
Fucking hell this idea of water travelling a dif direction is false
>>687139421
yes they are composites assembles from sensors that record in color bands, n the simplest terms there are separate images for red, blue and green and one for infrared or whatever else the sensor can record. then the images is assembled form these bands into something lay people can understand. your lack of understanding of basic remote sensing is pretty goddamn infuriating. successfully baited me, congrats.
The weird thing about FET is that the vast majority, if not pretty much all of the explanations used to give credit to the FET are just intended to explain the phenomena we see (which is more elegantly explained by the mainstream understanding), but don't actually explain why the FET model makes more sense than round Earth model... just why it might not be completely impossible just due to casual observation.
>>687143430
thats bullahit. sorry. depends on angle of tap and shape of the bowl.
pro tip:dont use the simpsons as a scientific guide.
nowyouknow
>>687143430
First, that is false even in the round earth model. A more interesting question would be about the tides.
There is a continual pressure of the atmosphere upon the Earth. Associating it with the fact that the Earth is a vast plane ‘stretched out upon the waters,’ it MUST, of necessity, slightly fluctuate. As by the action of the atmosphere the Earth is slowly depressed, the water moves towards the receding shore and produces the flood tide; and when by the reaction of the resisting oceanic medium the Earth gradually ascends the waters recede, and the ebb tide is produced.
>>687143275
Control for control's sake is also valid, hollow as it may seem. It's validation that you control the facts, that you write the narrative that governs people's lives. From a ruling standpoint, this is vitally important.
>>687143395
Explain the flat earth without gravity
>>687140608
its ok it was only a fish eye lens.
>>687142611
mist doesn't levitate. it is water precipitating out of the air, it is falling. falling down to the earth, to be with the other water, in gravity's sweet embrace.
Wouldn't everyone on Earth be able to see the Burj Al Arab if the Earth was flat?
In order for us to feel the effects of gravity, we accelerate towards the Earth at 9.8m/s EVERY SECOND. That's why you accelerate when you jump out of a plane, you don't just fall at a leisurely 9.8m/s and hit the ground at 9.8m/s, it compounds by that amount every second. If the flat Earth has to mimic this, it has to accelerate upwards at 9.8m/s, compounded every second. How long has this been happening? How long have we been accelerating? HOW FAST ARE WE GOING NOW?!
>>687142911
>>687143275
i still havent got my answer.
>>687143547
The sun is far closer to the earth than u think.
It is a bit bigger than the moon and almost same distance
>>687138446
If the sun's rays hits the earth equally, the ice around you "Figure of earth" would've melted a long time ago. That is most shittiest theory i've ever heard.
>>687136279
Despite the fact this entire thread is bait, and the few anons arguing FET are literally sitting back laughing at people angrily dispute and obvious bullshit theory, I'll still pose a question.
What the fuck would happen when you reach the edge of the earth then? Could you just jump off? What do the side of the planet look like and how deep are they? Does this mean that you could theoretically dig through the planet, come out on the underside, and then jump "upwards" and just continue moving away from the planet since it is now accelerating away from you? Why has nobody ever discovered the edge of the planet? Has there been a conspiracy for the entirety of human existence to keep people away from it?
I ask these questions just for my amusement of what the answers will be, because at the end of the day FET isn't something that needs to be argued or deputed. The same way that I don't need to dispute an argument that my shit doesn't smell.
>>687142611
the mass of the surface water will be less than that of the entire ocean
>>687136279
YouTube and Wikipedia does not count as research you faget!
>>687143727
Are you trying to say I had a fish eye lens ON MY EYES??
Absolute insanity
>>687137212
If the earth was constantly accelerating at 9.8m/s^2 our planet would be traveling so infinitely fast through space the constellations observed hundreds of years ago would look completely different now.
>>687143727
you don't seem to realize how a fisheye lens works, the curvature of the earth would constantly be changing as it's viewed from different angles if it were taken with fisheye lenses
>>687143928
stop saying that "control y" shit and give me the reason why telling everybody that the earth is round will suddenly grant the government alot of power and give them a reason to pledge billions of dollars so everybody believe that the earth is round?
>>687140245
actually it started out as a song against america. it was a rant about the '75 shows in LA with security acting like nazis beating people up.
the original lyrics were -
we don't need your education
we don't need your crowd control
Does the newtonian equation F=ma still hold true in your opinion retarded FETters?
>>687142586
... And yet you don't actually explain how gravity would allow a flat earth to exist.
It's all about mass. If an object is massive enough, gravity will cause it to collapse into a sphere. Mountains do not have enough mass to become spheres. And don't say that the flat earth just has to be less dense, otherwise the force the earth would exert on us would be much less.
>>687143931
Not sure I understand you questions, sorry.
You want me to explain that the earth is flat without using gravity as an argument?
Do you want me to explain how the FET can't be true because of how gravity works?
>>687144075
I think you mean 9.8 meters per second per second or 9.8m/s^2
>>687144106
Kek
>This thread
>>687144132
>Has there been a conspiracy for the entirety of human existence to keep people away from it?
yes actually. you can't get close to south if you wanted to. I'm not a flat earther but yes. yes there is.
your other questions are just dumb
>>687144132
>What the fuck would happen when you reach the edge of the earth then? Could you just jump off?
Why do all these who try to debate flat earthers debate like trolls? HOW so you not know about antarctica surrounding earth? That is the flat earth belief. Why do u deny this?
Fucking youtuber Andy Warski didnt know this about flat earthers as well when he mad a flat earth reply video - fucking idiot didnt even do his research.
>>687143106
Oh come on.. now we're in a dome..
Out of here, have fun with your life quest about the Earth's shape..
Or aren't we on Earth? maybe the Earth shiftshapes like the reptilians..
>>687143928
Just seems like a really strange way to do it. It's incredibly elaborate.
Taking that approach with history? Sure. Just compare what kids learn in history class to real life history when you actually look into it independently.
Media creating narratives in the pursuit of an agenda? Happens all the time, sure.
The idea that the government might create lies to start a war for military funding makes a lot more sense than anything involving a round Earth. The military budget is leagues higher than our space program budget ever was. And the illusion costs far less to maintain.
In reality, the concept that nearly every scientist on Earth is in on some sort of conspiracy just isn't feasible. No one power structure could keep that up for so long. The realm of science for at least since the 17th century (and possibly even going back thousands of years) would have to be part of this conspiracy.
>>687144491
sure you can. it's a long distance to go and the seas sometimes are too icy for the first time you try but you can get there. there are like 4 different ways to get there, you dumb fuck
>>687140214
Look at me I'm a guy who goes to school just to blame all of my classmates AND teachers about earth and stuff.
i love these threads
>>687143227
Ever heard about safety regulations, dumbass?
I would donate money to have all the flat earthers sent to space without a way to comeback, at least they will die illuminated, one way or another.
>>687136279
Every day with this shitty b8 thread.
Space tourism absolutely destroyes the theory.
Please come up with better b8.
>>687136279
if the flat earth theory was real, than GPS would work.
>>687142911
Nasa has not consumed hundreds of billions of dollars in it's lifespan. You're thinking of the military.
>>687144075
The next asteroid's gonna hurt
>>687144540
Was that even English? Your grammar alone would be enough for Trump to deport you.
>>687144106
If the sun was any closer, we would be past the goldilocks zone. We would've been burnt to death.
>>687138446
if you were standing in greenland in your model, would your shadow do a 360 every day?
>>687144701
not true mate. sorry
there is an agreement signed by ALL nations to prevent you from going unsupervised and there are actual boats patrolling down there as part of this agreement.
dont worry dude, just forget about your post. it didn't work out and thats fine.
im not a flat earther btw
>>687136279
no you dont, no its not, if you really are and not just lonely and depressed, then kill yourself we need to thin the herd some.
>>687144132
The idea is that Antarctica acts as the edge of the Earth. That's the case for just about every version of the FET.
But what's beyond that tends to differ.
>>687144816
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyiVSBAq2Nw
a bit like this? kek
>>687144987
i've looked into it faggot. it's very possible. expensive to get there but it's possible. you're dumb.
>>687136842
Nice shops fag
>>687136279
Your a fucking potato
