Do you honestly believe in the "Big Bang"? There was
The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
Do you honestly believe in the "Big Bang"? There was absolutely nothing and then in a few trillionths of a second, all the matter and energy in the entire universe suddenly came out of nowhere?
Topkek! Think about it anon, it's so ridiculous.
>>686767991
nice b8.
>>686767991
http://scitechdaily.com/universe-may-emerged-black-hole-higher-dimensional-universe/
>>686767991
you need to be more subtle next time
0/10
>>686767991
actually from an agnostic stand point, arent there christian that also agree with this belief, yet they believe it was god who caused the big bang theory
>>686768613
*christian scientists
>>686768613
but then who was phone
>>686767991
![Sage%20Logo[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/84kaucc.jpg "Sage%20Logo[1].jpg")
>SAGE
SAGE
>>686769174
WTF is this cancer, get it off my 4chan peasant
>>686769626
CONVERT YOU FUCKING ATHEISTS!!!
>>686767991
no , there was an old bearded guy who did that
>>686769977
Yeah, but convert to what ?
So many religions to chose from ...
Dont worry my brother, when they burn in hell they will realize how wrong they were.
Lets just wait for the inevitable.
>>686770274
All religions believe in the same god,
>>686767991
It's a simulation, brah.
>>686767991
Just think of the complexity of literally everything. How do people think an explosion could create it
>>686770274
TURN TO JESUS OR I'LL POST ANOTHER THREAD!!!
>>686767991
Do you honestly believe a god could create such perfection?
>>686770620
no they don't you dumb faggot ass bitch.
educate yourself. http://www.godchecker.com/
over 4000 gods worshiped by dumb monkeys
>>686770620
Eh ?
What about the whole idol burning at the start of islam ?
What about the contradicting stories about the universe creation ?
What about christian going to hell according to muslim and muslims going to hell according to chrisitans ?
>>686770851
In which direction would that be ?
>>686770905
>>686770936
Its only one god with many forms.
>>686767991
>believe
Nah, they have proof
>>686771064
I know this because I am one of the many gods who raped your mother.
>>686770848
Take it easy. In the end all is a bunch of spacerocks and superheated gas.
Easier to explain than some random old guy with infinite power. But hey, take your pick. In the end the universe doesn't give a flying shit about what you believe. It will just continue to be.
>>686770848
It wasn't an explosion, it was a mass expansion of superheated quarks and electrons that formed hydrogen atoms in the first millions of a second.
>>686771064
So the christian priests are lying when they say that animists are going to hell ?
Isn't lie a sin ?
>>686771140
Your fucking mom's vagina was raped by a million niggers and monkeys, you faggot mom botch forgot to abort your sorry ass.
She is lying in the gutter raped by dogs now
>>686771064
So... you believe in a cosmic prankster? Like, telling some guys in the desert one thing, and this islanders another things, an then laughing as they kill each other?
>>686767991
>it's so ridiculous.
Are you the same retard with the posts with the girl from "The Neverending Story"?
>>686771311
Please we're trying to have an educated, spiritual discussion here.
>>686771311
KEK
why isnt there a religion board to put this on? like, wha other boards could this have gone in.
>>686771311
kek
>>686771019
>>686767991
Everything, including religion. Is just a theory. No proof of anything. Just choose what lies you want to believe, and go with it
>>686771451
>educated, spiritual discussion here.
Thats in /x/, not here in /b/
>>686767991
If you add up the total energy of the entire universe you will get the answer of exactly 0. So yes everything we can see literally came from nothing and it is scientific fact, if you wish to dismiss this then you best have some form of evidence to support your claim.
>>686770848
Learn some chemistry and it will make sense...also this expansion didn't create everything just the elements, thousand, millions, even billions of years to create the complexity of what we see today.
ITT retarded 16 year old kids argue
with close to no real knowledge or education
>>686769626
>you're 12
>>686771692
It's didn't come from nothing idiot. There was something that caused it to bang. Multiverse.
>>686771692
you added it up?
>>686767991
The Big Bang is not a belief, and has nothing to do with religion or lack thereof. It's a scientific theory with mountains of hard evidence to support it, and none that disproves it. Which means it is accepted as fact, whether you "believe" it or not.
>>686771608
except for science a theory in science is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed through observation and experimentation. So you dont need belief it is fact.
>>686768613
>believe it was god who caused the big bang theory
gods a scientist? he created this theory? even god doesn't know?
>>686767991
only big bang was me fucking your mom
Stop trying to prove things to mentally handicapped people.
Even when they have the evidence, they say "nah"
I just imagined that.
Say what you will, but preaching here is lke pouring out expensive perfume on homeless drug addicts that will do anything for more drugs.
>>686771692
>>686771893
Simple math.
>>686771926
Theory in science is not necessary a fact, atleast not always.
>>686772123
Don't worry, everyone is aware of it.
Some people still enjoy arguing against the wind.
>>686771822
Obviously the big bang happened im in no way saying it didnt. Im just saying that the big bang required no energy to happen and therefore the whole universe came from nothing.
>>686771692
That's feminist logic.
Same line of reasoning as saying "He raped me last saturday" and if you want to dismiss that you best have some form of evidence to support your claim.
Same when it comes to religion, "Jesus/Shiva cured my gait" and if you want to dismiss that you best have some form of evidence to support your claim.
Disclaimer: i believe the big bang theory is the closest we have to understand what really happened at the start of this universe, and most scientists have different ideas to what happened within that theory.
I should also remind you that in a 100 years we will probably have another theory.
>>686772266
wrong. you obviously don't know what you are talking about.
I have also asked this of scientists - where does the matter come from in multiple universe theory?
I think the have painted themselves into a corner. By trying to explain where matter came from, they have left themselves open by trying to square other contradictory theories.
>>686772308
and you still sound stupid. get educated. being opinionated just make you sound retarded.
>>686771893
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-energy_universe
- Steven Hawking
- Lawrence Kraus
^these guys have so dw
>>686772510
zero mass universe?
>>686767991
Do you honestly believe in "God" ? There was absolutely nothing and then in 7 days, an old man create all that shit that come out of nowhere ?
>smart
>>686771926
By that logic the "fact" that flying contraptions was scientifically impossible in the 1700's.
(Because people are good at misrepresenting/misconstruing things i'll add that the scientific community, atleast in the west, at that time concluded in their theories that it was impossible)
>>686772392
I am an atheist , so I am not siding with religious fanatics.
What i mean to say is not many science theories are a fact, its an abstract theory which may/maynot be a fact until proven.
Example: Theory of Gravity was changed to Law of Gravity.
Theory of evolution is an abstract theory, we do not have a solid proof.
>>686772415
Same argument can be used for a creator god.
Ok lets say particles come to lige randomly but hod doesnt play with a dice but better with chess (or go). So lets say a random thing become so great it makes matter appear. Eat it.
>>686772601
Zero energy universe. The mass of everything in the universe is directly cancelled out by the gravity it creates therefore making the total energy zero
>>686772601
x+y=0
x=matter
y=anti-matter
This might help you.
>>686772821
brool story co
>>686772710
Ah but the key here is with testing and evidence they changed their views. Science evolves and changes as new ideas are tested...this do not happen with religion
>>686772723
>evolution is an abstract theory, we do not have a solid proof.
you are an idiot. we have lot of proof and commercial application of evolution. get over yourself. stop pretending to be smart.
>>686772821
Here talk about entropy to increase still and get crazy something appears
>>686772927
do you have a source to back it up? Internet warrior.
You have a brains of a feminist
>>686772927
Google the definition of theory faggot, a theory does not mean an absolute fact
>>686767991
>doesn't realise that the big bang was inevitable in such a situation
Fucking pleb mate, when something sits empty for an eternity, the likelyhood of energy appearance increases.
>>686772927
if we had proof then whys it a theory
>>686773055
you got a source to back up your idiocy?
here's one for you. how does bacteria become resistant to drugs? evolution.
>>686772710
> Flying contraptions impossible
> Birds
This was in no way a scientific theory its speculation. It clearly wasnt observed properly in nature, it clearly was not experimented.
A scientific theory for example is newtons laws - they will never be disproved there is so much evidence. And things like evolution, Einsteins theory of general and special relativity.
You clearly cant appreciate the difference between scientific theory and pure speculation
>>686773055
Even heard of the fossil record and comparing DNA between species to track when/where specific traits came to be? aka a spine, jaw, hands/feet, lungs, etc
>>686773055
Not that anon, but there is one clear proof.
Look up the origins of goldfish.
Well done, you now understand that genetics are real, and if they are real, it is highly likely that all animals and plants have evolved to some extent, even if they were originally placed here by god.
>>686773205
You are just an idiot, and by your definition there exist very very few facts in this world, especially as everything is tainted by our human perspective.
>>686772723
You don't understand the difference between a law and a theory in science.
Theory does not mean something is not proven, the word that means that is hypothesis.
Laws are scientific constructs that explain how something works, but not why.
Theories are scientific constructs that explain why something works.
There is a law of gravity and there is a theory of gravity. The theory of gravity was not changed to law of gravity, they both exist and are a different thing.
>>686767991
>>686773205
Learn the difference between the layman's understanding of the word and how it's used by scientists. Try google out yourself. It could help you in life.
>>686773623
You could know the law, évidence would still be avoid by some idiots
>>686772918
This does in fact happen with religion, what if the renaissance didn't happen?
We(the christian west) cast away most of the really shitty parts of christianity but kept some of the virtues and sins.
Islam did not have this renaissance and kept a lot of the shitty parts.
There are thousands of different interpretations of the bible.
Where science has testing and evidence, christianity has changed through demographics and profit(and a few crackpots/sociopaths on the way).
Disclaimer: i think religion is mostly shit, but it was a neat way to mass-broadcast things that can be important, like in the classical antiquity/post-classical history that they saw people were dying of infections under the foreskin caused by bad hygiene, and proclaimed that they had to cut it off.
These days religion is naught but a cash-cow and slight relief for those that need something to lean on.
>>686773205
Yes it does! In science a theory is the highest level of proof that it is physically possible to prove.
>>686767991
Stale ass bait is STALE! This is the same person that posts those Childlike Empress threads practically every single day! Stop feeding this goddamn troll! Topkek! This anon's inane, inaccurate, illogical arguments... think about it, they're always so ridiculous!
>>686772723
theorie is not like what you think.
pythagoras theorem is a fact but it's never gonna be a 'law'.
So saying 'oh look, it's theory that means it doesnt have a solid proff' is just not true.
>>686767991
Yea because the idea of a god that created everything in six days and is ever watching and listening to the prayers of everyone makes more sense to you
Why is it that you feel the need to claim that there is a god?
How shitty is your life and view of science
>>686773372
Is an animal a contraption?
I can understand if it isn't your first language, dont worry.
Many tried, many failed, they've been trying for millenia, and journals at the time concluded that it would never be done.
Here's a nice link to aviation history, many bright minds said it was impossible.
https://www.google.no/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&ved=0ahUKEwj808_O1v_MAhVCCSwKHerOCssQFgg_MAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.springer.com%2Fcda%2Fcontent%2Fdocument%2Fcda_downloaddocument%2F9789400724785-c2.pdf%3FSGWID%3D0-0-45-1213946-p174191484&usg=AFQjCNHowpBLgeLOnDj92X7Ydfn2l0M6eA&sig2=9DGTiTSEaIj1Nnqew6cXUg&cad=rja
>>686774209
If you love this world without saying 'god', why the fuck you need to believe in god? Just say love and try to live
If you don't believe in God why do so many atheists talk about Him all the time?
>>686773849
Yea well changes in religion are not for the same reasons as changes in science and does not follow the same unbiased and tested process. And when it comes to scientific findings they (religious people) often twist them to fit their picture of the world/universe. Instead of changing the picture like the scientific community does
idk how anyone can tell me what's wrong or right without God.
Why should I not steal? It's survival of the fittest right?
>>686774414
And then they tested it more and more and changed their minds once they figured out their original hypothesis was wrong. Instead of saying it was an act of magic and let's forget about it
Nice one OP
>>686774414
You're saying 'Flying contraptions cant ever exist' was a scientific theory when it clearly never was! It was just an assumption based on pure speculation. You could easily disprove this stupid hypothesis by looking at a bird in flight, quite clearly its logical to suggest if a bird can fly a machine can mimic it. Birds don't fly by magic they fly through mechanical action of muscle and bone.
This is not a scientific theory that went on to be disproved like you are suggesting because it never was a theory in the first place.
>>686774854
Animals seem to figure that out just fine...do they know your god?
>>686775143
Just gonna test something, answer me this: can you fly through the entirety of earth at close to light speed?
>>686774690
Because thats what we do, we think for ourselves and define our philosophy from that, rather than accepting something just because we are told to.
Question everything.
I think its just program that expands like infinite fractal
>>686774767
Yes, i agree.
Unfortunately we also have a lot of scientists that twist findings to fit their world picture/funding/sponsors.
Look to the tobacco companies studies about cigarettes effect on health.
And petrol companies studies and theories on their effect on the environment.
>>686775299
I think religion is so clear rules about love, the hardest thing, that you cannot stop questionning thz religion and be free to think. So dont worry about love, my friends
>>686775294
If i was a neutrino then yes. As a human being I dont know without knowing all the science behind it but my gut feeling would be unlikely
In this thread, those who do not study science or religion argue about science and religion.
>>686775539
Yea, but both groups of scientist you point out work for an industry, so they are trying to protect their interests. Real research (like university research) gets published so others can test their ideas/findings to further validate them or help find the flaws in their systems
>>686776056
I wouldn't put all universities in that group, but i agree.
I like to see buddhism (not the batshit crazy burma-buddhists) as the university version in that analogy, and most if not all of the other religions in the other category together with the industrial scientists.
>>686767991
Right but the exact same argument, but with an invisible flying man making it all appear is way more logical.
>>686776382
Not all but most universities but Publishing bad/fake science is a career ending move.
>>686767991
>>686775824
Then it would be impossible for someone to travel through the earth at near-lightspeed?
Neutrinos can, why cant we?
I'll add my source to the theory about flight being impossible, espoused and theorised by Sir Newton.
http://www.csc.kth.se/~cgjoh/AIAAFlight-3.pdf
If you aren't too miffed about looking through it just ctrl+f and type in impossible and you'll have an explanation that's a little more thorough.
>>686777399
I didn't say it was impossible I said I dont know enough to tell you the answer. In my opinion it isn't possible but that's just an opinion that isnt in anyway a theory. And just like birds flying mens machines can fly I agree if a neutrino can its at least plausible other things can.
Newton may have had an opinion that machines couldn't fly just like i have an opinion but it was never a scientific theory he didn't prove it was impossible through experimentation or mathematics. It wasnt a theory it was just a hypothesis. His actual theories were spot on tho and will never be disproved they are fact because there is so much evidence for them now.
>1,000+ gods throughout human history
>100+ known religions
>my singular god and religion is the one true one! I also just happened to be raised by my parents into it!
>>686777399
That article uses the word theory incorrectly it was merely a hypothesis
>>686767991
Riddle me this. Can someone enlighten me on the supposed prophecy in the old testament and it's fulfillment in modern times?
>>686771238
>>686771365
everyone will be judged based on their own belief
>>686778409
>>686778137
Since we have gotten this far i'll quote what started this discussion between us ", at that time concluded in their theories that it was impossible"
I never said anything about there being a specific theory about flight being impossible. Making such a theory would be nothing but a waste of time.
What i have been doing however is try to explain that theories change over time as our way of viewing the world changes.
Test:
ATHEISTS ARE THIN-SKINNED
>>686771140
Hi, dad.
>>686779242
And what i'm saying is they weren't proper scientific theories look at the definition of a scientific theory they fail to meet it. In order for it to be a theory you have to have shit load of evidence to support it.
Yes theories can change in there detail but not in there broader statement. Example - evolution the theory stays the same 'organisms change over time as a result of changes in heritable physical or behavioral traits' however we are constantly learning the ways in which this happens such as through DNA and things. This new knowledge only strengthens the theory and adds even move evidence to support its original claim.
>>686779386
TOPKEK
I swear to god, every time...
>>686779242
your original statement should read 'at that time concluded in their HYPOTHESESES that it was impossible'
>>686779833
So by your definition most of what stephen hawking said is bullshit since it's theoretical.
What if God made the big bang and let everything go on by itself ?
>>686780249
neat
>>686780342
go eat shit you horse-fucking cunteyes.
why do you even try to deny the existence of god? you eat shit. you are a disgrace to mankind. die you fucking asshole.
>>686780522
Did you just get so angry you replied to the wrong post?
>>686780342
Its kind of different because theoretical physics cant be proven by experiment it relies on mathematics as proof comparing the two things isn't fair
>>686780955
Can't be proved YET*
They didn't have windtunnels back then, we can prove or disprove for instance his impact theory now using a modern wind tunnel.
>>686780955
Ridiculous. What do you think all those particle accelerators are for? From the LHC all the way down to lab-sized ones at universities?
universe comes from nothingness, same nothingness thats your consciousness/awareness. so all physicality is born from consciousness, it is god. and also physicality is boring and deterministic but consciousness is not.
youre all boring predictable unconscious animals
Do you honestly believe in god? There was absolutely nothing and then in a few trillionths of a second, god came out of nowhere?
Topkek! Think about it anon, it's so ridiculous.
>>686770848
If you look in any direction, stars and galaxies are moving away from us at a velocity EXACTLY relative to their distance from us. Even if you ignore theories about the amounts of elements, this by itself proves that every bit of matter has at some point been together.
>>686781444
Oh yeah sure they can prove some things but only a small percent of theoretical physics theories.
Can a particle accelerator recreate the conditions of the event horizon of a black hole?
>>686781444
i love the LHC
>>686767991
Lol no doubt that is what the top "scientists" believe lol. Something came from nothing. Sounds like a magic trick . Look in this hat there is nothing right, and now a rabbit. Everything is the result of something else. And scientist wanna say somthing came from nothing and ppl believe it hahahahahah omg fuckiong idiots i tells ya
>>686767991
>>686782400
I know this is bait but something appearing from nothing is actually quite regular in our universe.
>>686770620
>>686767991
mfw OP is an Atheist
>>686773252
Lol you are the pleb mate. How did something emerge from nothing. with out a creator an outside force. Then you say well who created God then. well. he always was and always will be. wtf right? well look to science to answer this. the forth dimension where time doesn't exist so a creator that always was and always will be can exist and it births this dimension from it. duh!
>>686782599
No it never happens. Give examples. Everything is the result of something else.
>>686777399
Traveling at the speed of light is impossible with any mass beyond particles because you will infinitely gain mass as you approach the speed of light
Do you even Einstein? Pic related on of Einsteins equation demonstrating this
>>686783132
Hence why i said near-lightspeed, crucial difference.
>>686782031
Always was and always will be he lives in a dimension where time doesn't exist.It's called science mate. Like into dimensions/quantum theory.
>>686782940
>fourth dimension where time does not exist
Kek, time is the fourth dimension. It doesn't make sense to talk about objects with 4 basic bits of information: where in it is in 3D space and when
>>686782940
>lets use science
>"the forth dimension"
This is why religious people get laughed at, you give all of us a bad name.
Something appearing from nothing is a well documented quantum mechanic.
>>686783425
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclic_model
Bit more probable than a timeless deity...
>>686783132
>any mass beyond particles
No faggot, the particle needs to be definable as a wave. Not all particles work.
Atheists are just as dumb as religious types. They both have faith that what they read is true. The universe came out of nowhere? yea that makes sense lol nice one science, no holes in that logic lel. plebs believe this shit!
>>686783360
Doesn't change what I said
>be you
>be traveling NEAR light speed
>still gain mass
>require more energy to maintain speed or go faster
>mass increases again
You will never have
Take a day of and read about the evolution. maybe you learn something. if you can read.. ask jesus he maybe help you, Religion is for weak minded people that are looking for an easy answer.
>>686783668
No it's a well documented magic trick. Have you ever seen something come out of nothing? really does that happen? when?
>>686783126
Here. Now you clearly haven't studied physics so I'll break it down for you: An electron is moving in space and time. In another point in space and time from nothing emerges a positron-electron couple, which annihilates the original electron and leaves us an electron which seems to be the original one, but isn't. Such is Feynmans successful theory.
>>686767991
If you think that's how the origin of the universe worked, then you don't understand it well enough to philosophize on it. For starters, look up the origin of the phrase "the big bang." Go out and learn some actual fucking physics.
>>686782166
No, evidence shows that galaxies are accelerating. This is due to the unseen force known as dark energy.
>>686782400
God came from nothing, in all religious beliefs
>>686783841
Not all atheists believe in the big bang theory. Seems you are the real pleb.
I'm an atheist, but that doesn't mean I believe in the big bang. It just means I think God is bullshit.
>>686767991
What happened to the little crying girl gif that generally accompanies this type of copypasta?
>>686775606
you should however worry about grammar sir
>God is just staring at us like ants in an ant farm.
Likely story
>>686784006
That's not from nothing, it's actually new space from the expanding universe.
Also, the couple doesn't leave anything behind
>>686783953
Maybe in a 1000 years.
Maybe we find some neat new energy sources, materials or ways to teleport.
>>686783974
The big bang is an easy answer . "everything in the universe came from nothing." simple! makes perfect sense. You're just as easily tricked as religious ppl.
>>686784065
Yes, they are accelerating at a pace relative to their distance. That's literally what I said and it still proves the big bang.
>>686783764
Sorry I'll redefine that part...needs to be an object that can experience a quantitative state (aka nothing larger than a Bucky ball).
>>686767991
Religious fags think a magic man in the clouds just appeared out of no where. So where did god come from?
>>686770127
Well nothing cant come of of nothing a-am i r-right guys
>>686784105
Nice! At least this atheist has a brain!
>>686784003
Literally read any books on armchair quantum mechanics, I ain't gonna explain it to you now.
Suffice to say that we don't fully understand it yet, but in space totally devoid of occupants quarks and certain other sub-atomic particles have been known to come in to being spontaneously.
Similairly to quantum tunneling, such things should be impossible, but become even probable on such a scale.
>>686784065
>God came from nothing, in all religious beliefs
He is the alpha and omega you fucking retard.
>>686784219
I can't say I'm familiar with the first line so I'm not going to deny anything, but the couple does leave behind an electron, otherwise the diagram would be very different.
>>686784065
>Not all atheists believe in the big bang theory.
Good cause it's a dumbass theory and just that a theory
>>686784581
>Suffice to say that we don't fully understand it yet
Just go with that. it's the only honest thing you've said
God cannot be all-loving, all-knowing, or all-powerful at once.
>>686784310
That may be proof of the big bang. Doesn't necessarily prove it.
Religion correlates with poverty. The more religious, the more likely you are poor. Same thing regards health, lifespan, and intelligence.
>>686784723
you have a better explanation? Let me guess god created god and then god created god and god created .........
>>686784608
>>686784723
You aren't very smart, are you?
>>686784374
Alway was and always will be he lives in a dimension where time does not exist. quantum physics bro. use your brain to think for yourself not believe everything you here. Science theroys are just theroys
>>686784169
grammer*
>>686784861
>Religion correlates with poverty. The more religious, the more likely you are poor. Same thing regards health, lifespan, and intelligence.
read Murray's Coming Apart. This is just completely wrong.
>>686784852
What part of understanding is required in order to expect and event to happen again?
The ancient greeks likely had no real idea why the sun rose every morning, but I doubt that meant that they were constantly in denial about it's likelyhood to come up the following day.
I am simply saying that wether we fully understand it or not, it happens. The fact it happens on such a small scale could be indicative proof of our universe's creation. As with one instance on a tiny level, it would then expand outwards in ways explained by
>>686784006
Seems a lot more probable that a big guy in the sky just creating everything? no?
While I believe in god as a possible manifestation of all human energy poured into it, I doubt that anything can exist in nothing, which is what occured prior to our universe.
>>686783549
Well when you are in the forth dimension you do not see time the same way. like when ppl die they say they see there life flashes before there eyes not like it was a short film of there life but a flash like a picture like they are perceiving there life with no time. above time so to speak. you starting to pick up what i'm puttin down?
>>686767991
same shit
>>686785180
>implying god isn't just a theory
Except, no solid evidence can back that up.
You can't prove he lives in a dimension where time does not exist. If you could, quantum physics could explain some shit. You're retarded.
>>686785311
No, sorry. But you could have said that I should have started my statement with a capital letter
>>686784900
He always was and always will be he lives in a dimension where time does not exist. Look into quantum physics.
>There was absolutely nothing
citation needed
>came out of nowhere
citation needed
>666+666+666+6+6+6
>putting words in the mouths of others
ishygddt
>>686785917
>>686785180
Samefag
I am a firm believer of God by the definition of black science guy:
God is an ever-receding pocket of scientific ignorance.
>>686785026
Just because you disagree doesn't mean I'm dumb it means you're judgemental and jump to conclusions. You are the one who is not very smart.
>>686767991
OP you are so sneaky
>>686768740
He gets it
>>686785917
Quantum physics says nothing about any magical beings, you fuckwit. It describes the movements of the Universe/particles at the quantum/sub-atomic level.
>>686785730
>>686785917
>>686786096
>thinking God is in anyway a physical being
>acting like science not finding physical evidence of God proves something
>>686785730
>You can't prove he lives in a dimension where time does not exist.
Yeah it's just a theory . just like the big bang THEORY!
>>686767991
>>686785180
even if time doesn't exist there has to be a beginning. Saying something always has and always will be because someone that had too much sun said so, is just plane stupid.
>>686786376
No it's a hypothesis. Once there is enough evidence you can promote it to theory.
Big Bang - theory
dimension where time does not exist - hypothesis
The difference between a theory and a hypothesis is that one has evidence backing it up while the other does not.
>>686786031
So what bitch i can't post more than once in a forum? congrats on finding it's it the same person but wow who the fuck really cares?
>>686768699
The current pope also believes dat sheit
>>686786376
Evidence supports the big bang theory.
Wanna try to provide evidence that supports God?
Not saying the big bang is fact, but it holds more ground than theism does.
>>686785570
We can't fully percieve the fourth dimension, except as the passage of time. When you die, the life flashing before your eyes deal is just your brain drugging you with dmt.
>>686786525
>>686786198
Look into dimensions. plus partials are not the only way that is correct to perceive reality the way wave model (that tesla used) is also correct.
>>686786677
>provide evidence that supports God?
you're dealing in category errors.
>>686786543
You cared enough to respond to that
>>686771692
This is nit a scientific fact! There is no way to add all matter and large quantities of antimatter have never been found. The big bang is purely speculation. A theory. A miracle. Yes the church of science is build upon a miracle, just like christianity.
Having said that, science is imho alot more trustworthy.
>>686786793
Fuck. I thought no one will discover I am in this thread.
Well now that it is revealed - and because I didn't actually show up at year 2000 as promised - I will do it in here instead.
God here, AMA.
>>686786198
Why is science so quik to dissmiss the theory of supernatural beings that live in other dimensions. so there's other dimensions but nothing lives there? like gimme a break. keep an open mind.
>>686767991
Jesus is a fucking criminal and I can prove it. Just go to any prison. They are always finding him in there.
>>686786677
What evidence? something can't come from nothing. not scientifically speaking
>>686786803
Um I study physics, know about waves, and this doesn't change the fact that some magical being has nothing to do with any of it. Also you saying a bunch of words like "quantum physics" as a blanket for your belief system is a poor logical scaffolding and it doesn't lend anything to your argument. Stop trying to cover new age mysticism with your poor understanding of science.
>>686786744
ThaNKS dr.science i'm glad someone out there knows everything. gREAT job! maybe dmt is a portal to the forth dimension.
>>686786951
dont talk like a whipped dog just to sound objective
there are lots of mathematical calculations that prove bigbang happened, and some real life observations to support it
we just don't exactly know what was before it, if you can say before. but there are theories about them too, just not strong ones.
>>686786857
You cared enough to respond to that
>>686786951
Um, but e can detect a lot of evidence of the big bang, say for instance by measuring the background radiation of the universe.
Now can I just ask you all to pop your head above the water of futility that is this thread and ask you; why do you care? Why do you care where the universe came from? Why do you care that some guy think this or that? Can't we all agree that what's important is what we do to better ourselves or humanity - regardless of outlook or belief. Keeping up talks like this wont get us any closer to colonizing mars or zipping around in hovercrafts, it will just stagnate the human race even more. Put down your keyboard and go do whatever you can to help others or to better yourself for the glory of mankind today - and in the future
>>686787298
Expansion of the universe provides evidence of a big bang.
>>686787017
Because there is no verifiable evidence of supernatural beings. None. If there was I would believe in them.
>>686787488
YA!! Every time we get high like on LSD or PCP Ect. We travel to a different dimension LOL.
>>686767991
>it's so ridiculous
so who made god ?
>>686767991
Who made god then?
>>686787747
there's no evidence for the existence of the number 7.
>>686787780
No, just dmt smoke it y'ull see
>>686787003
Last chance. If you want to know the answers, you have 30 minutes to ask anything.
Then again, you can continue bickering, I find that just as amusing.
>>686787821
Humans, to make ourselves feel comfortable with death.
>>686787821
>>686787826
Always was always will be he lives in a dimension where time doesn't exist.
>>686788003
why do you religious people always have opinions about stuff you have no knowledge about?
>>686788003
You must be a troll. We can count to seven. We invented seven so we could count past six.
>>686788069
do i need to study for the finals?
>>686788145
great argument. you've really convinced me.
>>686788216
No.
>>686787688
YUP bbut the universe didn't magically apear out of nowhere. everthing is the result of something . so how did the universe get here?
>>686787826
>>686787821
the point of religion is that it is based on faith and belief.
anyone fighting in that corner will tell you not to ask these questions, if god wanted you to know then you would know
but a second argumnent is that the big bang is just as fucking stupid because where did the singularity come from? it doesn't explain anything.
'before big bang doesn't exits because there was no time outside the singularity' doesn't explain where it came from
>>686787430
So you believe there is other dimension or atleast have herd the theorys. well what's the big deal? God could live in another dimension. Just a theory. and that's science baby. I'm just the one who is clever enough to come up with theorys. you're the one you is dumb enough to believe everything he is taught.
>>686788119
So do we, its a relative concept you dope...
>>686767991
I don't have to "believe" in it. I don't have to be committed to it the same way a godfag tells himself over and over that God exists.
If science comes up with a theory that better explains the observed data, I'd be totally cool with it.
>>686787003
It doesnt prove shit. There could be a thousand reasons for the background radiation. Even the combination of so called evidences leads to nothing more than speculation. And even if the big bang theory where fractionally true, it is still a freaking miracle on itself. Matter and antimatter suddenly bursting in existence out of nothing? Lolk
There is a lot humans can do, but the explanation of our existence is something that is not(yet) in our grasp. And at this point in time unneccesary. Lets first either get lower global energy usage or beneficial nuclear fusion going
>>686788119
bullshit post of the century
>>686788082
the only correct answer
>>686788258
we see real life effects of the rules of the universe
you cant see gravity, but you can observe it
math is not different
this is why i said that
you have no knowledge about the simplest stuff
but you act like you know the secrets of universe
why?
is this just some way to prove yourself that you aren't useless?
>>686788210
you can count to 7 and I can pray to God but where's the physical evidence for either being real?
>>686787747
Everything is the result of something. There is evidence for a big bang but what set it in motion.? God. And what made him? he always was and always will be he lives in a dimension where time does not exist! Just a theory.
>>686788411
As someone who actually came up with both of those words, and someone who actually did make the puzzle for you to solve, as well as the rules, I can tell you that there is a difference between theory and hypothesis. Of course both are far from fact, but within the rules of the game, scientific theories are closer to solving the puzzle - which is all that really matters.
>>686788428
Or maybe it's so correct it just blew your mind!
>>686769977
No. Fuck you.
>>686788888
quints blew my mind
>>686788530
>you cant see gravity, but you can observe it
>math is not different
hmm sort of like how you can see the creation but not the creator?
I don't understand, who is god? Is he the next president of the US who doesn't like mexicans?
>>686788364
No, what you're doing is coming up with an idea that isn't supported by any evidence...which would just be speculation, not science. I am a scientist so I'll keep looking for answers to these large questions, but those answers will be in the form of rational scientific observations. Don't get me wrong, your idea of fourth dimensional beings is a pretty idea, but it is unsubstantiated speculation, that's all.
>>686767991
Someday you'll get the big fish
>>686789040
I am God, and no I am not the next president of the US who doesn't like Mexicans.
>>686788995
>gravity
still just a theory in all reality you know nothing NOTHING! because you cannot even prove reality is real!
Olga booga
>>686788692
You don't get this, do you? We invented numbers in order to define the world around us in a logical way.
>>686788995
yes sort of. if there was evidence that it was actually created by it than you would be correct.
unfortunately there is no reliable observation or proof that directs us there
only thing we have is the need we have to a higher power that was caused by maternal affection when we were young, which was satisfied by man made gods throughout history.
How come that meteors always land in craters?
>>686789094
>it is unsubstantiated speculation
At one point, so was the idea of a round earth.
>>686789381
>kys
>>686789364
>if there was evidence that it was actually created by it
a creation without a creator? tell me more about this theory.
When I was a child there were thought to be 9 planets. Now there are 90 planets.
>>686789683
universe doesn't need a creator, this is a language error that you're making. universe can just be.
following that logic, the creator would need a creator too, and that one would also need a creator too.
>>686790058
Yeah. That's an argument no godfag ever has a convincing explanation for. "If everything must be created by something, then who created God?"
>>686790058
an infinite causal chain is impossible therefore there must an uncaused eternal cause.
Aristotle figured this out 23 centuries ago but you're still flailing around about it.
>>686789166
Oooh! I see, sorry, I did not understand until now!
Can you share a timestamp? you know, it's a kind of autograph....
>>686767991
At least is better than saying "my god did it".
>>686767991
There never was nothing, that's the stupidest thing I've heard. The Big Bang isn't about something being created out of nothing or nowhere, it's about a small dense point that increased in size radically, basically it imploded. There always was something, as it was increasing in size different laws of physics started to unfold like gravity. Though we don't know what exactly initiated it or what was the first thing created, we can explain certain events after it with our knowledge now and our knowledge about it is still growing. Don't be an ignorant fuck and throw away ideas or possibilities just because they don't please your mindset or ideals. That's the point of theories, as long as they can explained with logical exemplifications there is nothing wrong with. They are meant to be either refuted or verified.
>>686790185
>an infinite causal chain is impossible
this is a dogma that says infinite is impossible. which is mathematically proven not. almost everything we use irl is calculated and made using the idea of infinity.
>>686790469
you sure ?
>>686790185
Why is an infinite causal chain impossible?
Just because Aristotle said it doesn't make that true. Aristotle was a smart guy, but he was speculating--he had no experimental technique and no higher mathematics.
And btw, a lot of religions believe in a circular timeline.
>>686787622
i guess thats what i get for expecting reason on 4chan, leter wankers
Just going to leave this here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c-Cf6O0ogI
>>686767991
>>686767991
>do you not read the bible?
Even god made something from nothing.
" formless and empty, darkness was over the surface"
>>686790469
No it actually makes more sense then something poped out of nothing. "hey, look at this hat nothing in it right?" then poof a rabbit. That's what these modern "scientists" actaully believe it's a joke. Anyone who believes it is nothing but sheep. can't think for themselves. I'm not saying for sure it was God but it makes more sense.
>>686792151
Your point of reasoning is "my shit is better than others", so u shouldn't blame scientists if you can't understand what they try to do. Aren't you a lamb of god btw? who poped god? other gods?
I'm not surprised from someone who says "god did it" and it's happy about it.
>>686789116
wow, haven't seen this one before
>>686767991
I get that it's b8 but a big invisible floaty man in the sky poofed everything into existence then dicked around until we were able to make reliable records the disappeared
>>686792151
assume there is a magician
2 groups investigates how he does his tricks
first group says well its magic obviously
other group says "we have figured out these solutions for the first two of his tricks, and it's not actually magic"
then first group says "well have you figured out the THIRD trick?"
other group says "no, but we have some theories"
then first group says "ha! we have beaten you. you see, it's real magic."
so you says first group makes more sense?
>>686792791
>who poped god
He always was and always will be he lives in a higher dimension where time doesn't exist. The fifth I think, you'd have to do some research into quantum physics if you want the truth. But i don't think you can handle the truth.... good luck
!
>>686771735
That's... not how the elements were made....
>>686793275
This makes no sense. Just like the theory of the big bang. something from nothing "science" common get a brain.
>>686793325
>Knows nothing about quantum physics
>Knows nothing about string theory
>Claims god lives in 5th dimension out of his ass
>Doesn't know there are 10 dimensions
>Claims god created everything
>But god lives in a lesser dimension than he created
Kys
>>686793325
the answer of god in science?? how can you accept that? because your shit is better
>Big Bang
Sounds like a name for a porn movie.
>>686768740
/thread
>>686771735
see even scientist say it's manmade
>>686793627
kek this is obviously bait
noone can be this stupid
