Hey /b/ i'm looking for an awesome gaming PC but no one
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Hey /b/ i'm looking for an awesome gaming PC but no one online knows what the fuck they are talking about, since all of you probably have fucking lions for computers I though you all would be knowledgeable on good PREBULDS I can buy for the cheap cheap.
>>686269415
prebuilds are for retards. go on r/buildapc and they will make one for you, you just buy the parts and put it together (very easy)
>>686269563
Shhh... dont talk about them
>>686269415
Just fucking snatch stuff off craigslist, wont regret it
You will really never find a good prebuilt that couldn't be built for less. It is really simple to build a PC, and there's a lot of online tutorials if you need them.
Most stores where you can buy pc parts will assemble it for you for a fee, did this for my first time as I was nervous I'd fuck up the CPU. But it's litterally color coded, and nothing fits where it shouldn't it's retard proof.
>>686269792
>>686269563
if I were to buy a prebuild could I later replace parts?
>>686269995
well yes but you may as well have just built a pc form the start
>>686269415
what do you want to run and how much is your budget and where do you live.
It's like building legos, if you know how to do that, you know how to build a pc.
>>686269415
Start with making a list of what you need for a good pc.
Then think what you want you pc to be able to run smoothly and flawlessly.
Don't go for the latest on the market if it is not needed.
You have to research the parts yourself.
I have really good gaming pc that cost me 700€ and i bought all parts the individually.
>>686269995
honestly prebuilts cost more than their built from scratch counterparts. (my experience) I think its better to byy parts individually. But all i can say if yout going to do that is to just be informed - know what your getting for the price and etc.
>>686269415
>ex dell field support here
Even the gaymer alyyenware are shit because many reasons
>its a PC made console, or even worse
>office class motherboards with shit cooling solutions
>ram and hdd are mid tier
>it will last like 3 years, and no OC or anything
>Dealing with warranty is an issue because india on phone
>have luck and find a decent technician is very very difficult because most of us were centered in inspiron or latitude products
>the overall product is like going to a shit computer shop and made a mid tier clone but with flashy lights and whatever gaymer hardware you can shovel on it
Take my advice.
Get gud with computers, its not rocket science.
And build a clone if you want a PC.
A fined OCd dual core with a mid tier graphics card, whatever ram you want, an ssd and you are done.
>>686269415
go on /g/ you fucktard. prebuilds are gay why would anyone give a shit
>>686270280
still waiting op.
Just go to a fry's and tell em you want to build a PC, they can tell you what you need and often help you pick the shit out.
Really the only thing you need to be concerned with is fucking up the components by rubbing your cum-swipers on the little golden bits, or buying a power supply that isn't good enough for your PC.
Gotta give us something more to go on than just "I want a good PC" though. What games do you plan on running and at what quality?
Obviously you wouldn't be able to run DOOM on high with a GTX 800 series, but it would run just about everything else below DOOM high level graphics just fine. For gaming the thing that matters the most is your graphics card. I haven't looked too much into them but I have an MSI GTX 950 that can run Fallout 4 and DOOM on high, it was the best I could find for my money IMO. If you can spend around $250-270 I would get the GTX 970 though.
Just my opinion but I avoid any PNY brand videocards
>>686269415
i5, gtx960, 8 gb ram (EBAY) not powerful not shitty but you can play most games at medium high level, enjoy
>>686270832
Sorry, just games like overwatch, Doom4, Battlefield 1, fallout 4 and No Man's Sky, games like that at least at 30 fps.
>>686271089
Thanks! Will keep this set in mind when buying!
>>686269415
nvidia 1080 fagget
>>686271315
>Implying OP is going to drop $600 on a video card
>>686271179
ok a price range would be nice too and country of origin so i can look at parts for you,
parts you need,
psu
ram
mother board
gpu
cpu
disk driver
case
cooling fans (optional)
>>686271089
>>686271241
This is something you can buy for cheap and still have room for upgrades
or stick with haswell and ddr3 because there isnt that much difference
>>686270859
>gtx 970
>3.5+0.5
>this guy bought a fucking 950
top goddamn kek.
get a fucking used 770 for $150 shekels and run doom capped out with an fx8350 and decent mobo, hyper 212 cooler and 16gb ram for $50, cheap ssd and whatever HDD, congratulations for $500 you're running any game flawlessly.
>>686271548
I live in Texas, 1,500 - 1,700 is like the max I could go at the moment.
>>686271315
>implying Nvidia is not shit tier
>>686269563
If the computer is more for gaming, then have the GFX card at a higher priority than the CPU. Be willing to pay more for the GPU than the CPU.
>>686271241
np bro
>>686271548
same dude, because i have dual 22 core cpus with 64 gbs @ 3000mhz, waiting for my dual 1080's, 3 8tb hdds, a 1.2 tb pci express ssd boot drive, so i know pc's.
>>686271948
Pic and timestamp or gtfo
>>686271948
>i bought the most expensive components so i know computers
gtfo
>>686269415
I had a friend in the netherlands buy my parts, since its cheap as shit there
Paid for the whole thing 750€
i5-4460
8gb ram
250gb SSD
some kind of power supply for 80€
R9 290X
and a case for 40€
runs like a gem and I can play everything at max
except shit like DayZ and Arma ofc
>>686271710
>Cheap
>SSD
OP isn't looking to build the newest in neckbeard fashion for upwards of $1000.
And the video card was on clearance for $170 at the time when I bought it a year ago, good job assuming I buy used shit online. My computer was down and I had to find the best buy at the local store.
>>686269415
>all of you probably have fucking lions for computers
how did you guess? here is my rig
>>686270740
>/g/
>not your tech support
>>686270740
Stay the fuck off /g/ faggot.
>>686271717
cool, id wait till the gtx 1080 come out thou, because its a lot better than everything on the market, you will need an i7 at 3ghz to run really well, id get at least 12gb of ram for future proofing, psu will only need to be 600watt at min, and any hdd you want most cost very little for a 1tb, as long as the mother board is compatible with the cpu it can be as cheap as 20 dollars, it just needs ram slots and at least one pci express slot.
most of this will add up to 1200 and it will run crysis 3 at ultra, 1080p and at 60fps.
>>686272261
Damn dude that's pretty awesome I bet you could even run super mario brothers.
>>686272368
>not waiting for Polaris
>>686272384
yeah for about 15 minutes, then the lions get tired
>>686269415
is this idiot on the pic going to insert that ram in the pci slot?
Get one of these. Every part was on sale, came to exactly $1000 CAD, excluding the SSDs and monitors.
Really good bang for the buck. Aside from being a space heater, it plays everything on max.
>>686272170
Did you read my post you dumb nigger?
>used 770 2gb is $140-160 via eBay
(op is likely on a budget goyim)
>fx8350 new $170
>gigabyte ud3p mobo $60
>16gb ram ~$60
>any fucking ssd
>seriously, Samsung 850 evo 250gb are like $80
>$30 case
>any decent rated sub $70 PSU
Do the math you fucking mongoloid. And this will run even doom well into high settings, same with gtav on ultra and the like.
>>686272368
Don't go with a shitty 20$ motherboard when he said he had a larger budget. You can get some really nice features if you double the budget to say 50-60$...
Also go for a SSD and cut the HDD if OP doesn't need a lot of space.
120gb or 240gb SSD with a 500GB HDD is much better option than just a 1TB HDD, because windows will start a shit ton faster and it will also run a lot faster if it is installed on a SSD.
>>686269415
look at sites like these to get an idea of pricing,
https://www.altex.com/
>>686271548
>>686271717
i5-4690K =269$
Coolermaster 212 evo = 48$
Asus B85m-g R2.0 Desktop = $80
Kingston Hyperx Fury 4 Gb 8 Gb = $22 x 2
COOLERMASTER RS600-ACABB1-EU B-SERIES VER.2= 120$
WHATEVER CHEAP CASE = $50
Hdd 1 TB a 7200 Rpm 64mb Sata Iii = $89
You have like 700$ in here, so the rest is for the videocard of choice.
>>686272720
i was more saying it can be cheap, not go and get the cheapest.
>>686272637
>(op is likely on a budget goyim)
>>686271717
>I live in Texas, 1,500 - 1,700 is like the max I could go at the moment
Keep up with the thread retard.
>>686272816
>i5-4690K =269$
i have this exact cpu its painfully slow
op get the skymeme i7 but for fuck sake get a good motherboard Asus or Asrock and a noctura cooler thank me later
>>686272368
>buying a gtx 1080
>playing at 1080p
idiot
>>686269415
>no one online know what they are talking about
>asks /b/ for help
>>686272924
if you want to go cheap, OC that shit to 4.2, if not, a 4790K is LGA1150 and its far better if he wants to spend that much, but the videocard makes the actual difference here.
Even if he makes a PC arround buying a 1080 and saving like a cheap fuck with the rest, it will run doom and whatever at very high settings.
>>686273049
imo he should just go on the LTT or Tomshardware forum, higher odds of finding someone that can help him. People love to do that shit on those forums.
>>686272368
this made me laugh.
If you wan to use the 1080 for 1080p 60fps kys
either 4k 60fps or 1080p 144fps
tying off from that, dont cheap out on monitors either OP
>>686272816
https://www.altex.com/GeIL-SUPER-LUCE-16GB-2-x-8GB-DDR4-2400MHz-Memory-Kit-Red-GLR416GB2400C15DC-P156676.aspx
https://www.altex.com/Intel-i5-6600K-Quad-Core-35GHz-LGA1151-Processor-I5-6600K-P156722.aspx
https://www.altex.com/Gigabyte-Ultra-Durable-H110M-S2H-GSM-LGA1151-Micro-ATX-Motherboard-GA-H110M-S2H-P156993.aspx
all for round 500.
>>686269415
>pre-builds
Dude, just learn to build.
>>686272969
gtx 1080 is the new card, 1080p is a resolution, if he wants to play at 4k he would need 2.
>>686272368
Are you fucking retarded? A 1080 is for one not out yet, two beyond fucking overkill because OP isnt gaming at 4k. Jesus Christ you fucks know absolutely nothing do you?
OP, if you've got that high a budget,
>i7 4790k ~$300
>decent z mobo ~$120
>Master cooler hyper 212 evo cpu cooler, $30
>gtx 980 4gb by MSI or gigabyte windforce ~$450 via newegg or the like
>any ssd that's cheap for your OS
>Western digital caviar blue 1tb HDD, $55
>16gb any brand ram, ~$50
>any PSU around 600-750watts that's well rated and cheap
>any fucking mid tower case for cheap you like
Congratulations, it'll literally run anything and be more than suitable for any future upgrades or tweaks you want, it'll be solid and run fucking everything, even be ready to move on to 2k or 4k with added cooling and minor oc'ing.
You're welcome, retards need not apply.
>>686273256
wh-what? thats just not true
>>686273164
4k would take vastly more power than 1080p, it would take 2 gtx 1080s to get the power to run at that, 4 times as many pixels takes 4 times the power.
pic related
>>686272637
>Cheap shitty components that likely won't survive another 6 months
>Just buy the shittiest used things you can find, it's a great money saver!
>OP specifically says $1500 or so
Did you read the thread you dumb nigger?
>>686273182
aaaand it gets better...
>>686273256
you can play at 4k with a gts 460, but I wouldn't recommend it...
the new 10xx series should be able to run 4k no problems on high with minimal AA, the 1080 just lets you push it a bit higher with SSAO and AA
>>686273504
Wow, a used card and using your brain to buy cheap well reviewed known brand products? Nice anecdotal about them dying in 6 months fuccboi.
>>686273325
the gtx 1080 was getting frame rates of 200 on doom 4 at 1080p, 4 k would take times the power so it would only be about 50fps, also it future proofs his pc.
>>686273256
i don't think you should give advice on computers.
>>686273548
yes but it is better to future proof now then upgrade later.
>>686273697
my point is future proofing.
>>686273641
This is implying he has the money to buy a 4k monitor.
Youre also fucking retarded, 390x and gtx980s run 4k fine without sli you literal shit shoveling moron. 295x2/Titan cards are a thing if youve got such a budget just to play at 4k which is a meme anyways right now. Wait a couple of years with die changes on the way from amd and nvidia, as well as price drop in 4k monitors and it'll be a much more achievable goal without spending thousands.
>>686273504
>saving on something to put more money into something else
>>686273710
your best bet is to just grab the 1070 if you aren't planning on running more than a single 4k monitor. the price difference is huge, rumored to be dropping for ~$380. haven't even read 80% of the thread but all OP needs is
> latest i5, the 4xxxk series or whatever
> 16gb memory, is the new ddr4 out yet?
> 1070 from evga
> some $120 mobo from ASUS/gigabyte/msi
> a $100 psu from Corsair/Seasonic/XFX/Silverstone/Evga/OCZ
>>686273880
my point is future proofing, you seriously think no devs are going to take advantage of the new gtx1080 to produce better visuals.
>>686272261
Fuck. You beat me to it.
OP, just go to pcpartpicker.com and focus on getting a good graphics card and a good processor. I'd recommend looking for an i5 or i3 of whatever generation and then a good graphics card. pcpartpicker will force you to choose the rest correctly, then order it and watch a guide online.
It's way way easier than it looks. Don't bother with prebuilt.
>>686274089
my point is future proofing when devs take advantage of the power of the new 1080, it will take a lot more power to run at 4k and 1080p, why does no one think ahead.
>>686273325
There you go OP. I think 980 is a bit overkill still, but that's only my opinion. 970 can be as much as 50% cheaper but only 20% slower.
>>686274095
not in the next year or two, no. once AMD has their cards out on the market as well, give it 6 more months and then we'll start seeing shit utilizing the newest tech. games take time to be designed, and the hardware it is aiming for is decided at the start of production, not halfway through it.
>>686269415
>OP writes a guide
>How to Fuck Up
>>686269415
>good
>prebuild
Choose
>>686274222
well maybe so but it is still be to future proof, if you get a card that will have shit performance when game devs start taking advantage of the newer cards and there power you will have wasted money and still need to waste more.
>>686273962
>High Definition Audio
that shit is cancer, get rekt spanish cuck.
>>686274400
so the age old conundrum; buy outdated shit now, buy stupidly over priced shit now, or wait for the next gen...
all op needs is a 1070, end of story. he doesn't have a 4k monitor, he won't have one anytime soon, no games will push a 1070 hard enough to need an "upgrade" at 1080p in the next 4 years. save yourself money op, buy a 1070 for under $400 and be done with this thread.
>>686274690
Kek yer right i bought a 680 when it came out 2 years later it was getting sluggish, now it can only run most games on low.
>>686274985
how far did you ocd it?
>>686274985
dude what shit are you smoking, I'm running a 670 still and it holds up fine. am I playing the latest and greatest maxed out? no, but I'm still playing at 1080p, 60fps, high settings, with DoF off, shadows on low, and low(er) AA depending on the game.
yes it's old, yes it could be better, but I've easily gotten my monies worth out of this card and my games still look better than that console BS
>>686269415
>good
>prebuilt
>cheap
top lel
www.logicalincrements.com
>>686275195
Yes but soon it will run extremly slow.
>>686269995
yes, you can replace the parts. But there is a high chance your motherboard will be OEM locked which means you cant overclock it and most likely you'll have difficulty installing a different OS than the one it came with
>>686274190
FUTURE PROOF
FUTURE PROOF
FUTURE PROOF
FUTURE PROOF
Jesus Christ nigger, most of the cards on the market now are going to be good for the foreseeable future, I'm still running an hd5770 1gb, a $130 budget card that's pushing 6 years old, guess what, I still see 60fps on gtav, not on high settings sure, but its an old as fuck never meant to play something that graphically intensive card doing more than fine after years and years of hard use.
>>686275327
if you think 5 years+ is "soon" then I'm fine with that. I got plenty of life out of this thing and I don't see it dying anytime soon. I'll probably upgrade it whenever i finally pull the trigger on one of those 4k ultrawides but until then, this 670 is fine for 99% of things
>>686274190
Speaking from personal experiance, from someone who ALWAYS bought top of line GPUs, by the time shit comes out that requires more then next highest, new tech/features come out that doesn't support older cards.
>>686275327
Graphics cards don't jump that much in performance per generation these days.
GTX 6xx series are going to be fine for quite a while. Maybe you'll have to leave AA off, but no one needs that shit at high resolutions anyway.
I wouldn't buy one nowadays, but they're far from outdated.
>>686275327
Nice anecdotal evidence bro. I guess those guys still running ancient server Xeons, 5/6k series radeons, gtx500/600s, sure are dying. Everyone's just rushing out to get the gtx1080.
MUH FUTURE PROOF MUH SLOW SLUGGISH PERFORMANCE IN A YEAR OR TWO
MUH ANECDOTAL
I didn't realize nvidia shills were still in full force after the 3.5+0.5 vram issue, 1080s performance must be awful lackluster to justify you future proofing cucks shilling it so hard.
get an ayylienware
>>686275785
so yeah tl;dl, for the same price, you're better getting shittier cards, but update more frequently. Of course, some generations aren't worth updating to, due to rebadged bullshit
>>686274985
Why would you lie on the internet?
>>686269415
Looks like you are the one who doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. Pre-built rofl
>>686269415
I've built my own rigs for the last 35 years, so I have some general advice for you. First, and most importantly, COOLING. In the old days, when your system overheated, your CPU would blow or you'd literally set your video card on fire. These days, systems are designed to handle heat by quietly nerfing themselves until the heat level is back under control. It doesn't matter how powerful your rig is if it's constantly throttling itself. Pay for the best cooling system you can possibly afford. And make sure you pay for a tech to go over all the heat sinks with Arctic Silver or something similar. This is NOT optional. Trust me on this.
Second, pay extra for fast, name brand RAM. Don't get generic RAM. It may have the same specs, but it will go bad much faster, and as it goes bad, it makes your system slower (since it has to keep track of more and more bad memory locations).
Third, get a bigger power supply than you think you'll need. Brownouts are almost impossible to detect and are the #1 reason for undiagnosable system instability.
>>686273325
Move on to 2k? What an odd way to say 1080p.
>>686271710
why is it that the second number means so much and the first almost nothing?
>>686275981
ayy lmao
>>686277387
you are an utter retard arent you? 2k commonly refers to 2560x1440
>>686277337
This
>>686277467
First number is the generation of the card and the 2nd number is how good in that generation it is.
so the 970 is the 900 generation and the only card better than it that gen is the 980, so it's the 2nd top card of that generation. That's pretty good, because typically the 2nd best card of the latest generation is equal that of the best card last generation.
So for comparison, the 970 I think is pretty close to the 780. Nvidia missed the 800 generation for some weird reason.
Also the upcoming 1070 is actually quite a lot better than the 980
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/hcTmPs
>>686278015
You mean 1440p?
How is 2.5k lines refered to as 2k? It's a full half a thousand lines bigger?
4k is 4096, a measly 100 lines bigger
2k is 1920, a measly 100 lines smaller
And here I thought you were a gamer and not a retard.
Don't even bother trying to future proof, nothing on the market can even play new games at 60 fps in 4k, and with 8k on the way you'd just be fucking yourself to even try.
>>686269415
Get your specs of the RECOMMENDED specs list on a current gen game. Skimp as much as possible but buy a beast of a vid card.
