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Why aren't you a dad yet /b/?

Are you low test?
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Don't want to ruin my life for a selfish needy little piece of crotchfruit. Not to mention the power the mother also has with alimony/child support.
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>>686156872
Sounds like low test to me.
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>>686157383

Sounds like someone found themselves with a baby chain and needs to avoid suicide.
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>>686158127
I actually don't have kids, but in the process of convincing my gf it's a good idea.
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>just stay in your cage you stupid baby
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OP here. I'm just trying to justify my poor life choices by saying everyone has low test if they don't have children.
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>>686156698
because i prefer to have a life.
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>>686156698
Birth control
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>>686158298
I dont want to spend 18 years being required by law to take care of this thing. No matter how they turn out. I dont want to be legally responsible for another being for 18 years.I dont want to be requried by social norms to store away my hard earned money so they can follow the pointless education system.
I dont want to have feces on my body and in my mouth/nose every fuckning hour of every day.
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>>686158787
So what else are you going to do with your life when you're grow old?

Play video games and fuck random bitches?

I stand by my 'low test' mantra.
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>>686156698
What fucking black magic spell did you cast on that webm, why the fuck am I crying, fuck you, I'm a goddamn man-child I'm not ready for that shit, WHY DID YOU DO THIS TO ME I JUST WANTED TO SHITPOST
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>>686156698
I am and on purpose too
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>>686158878
Well yeah man
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>>686158878
Actually enjoy my life with no standing debt and enough money to survive till i die in 20 years?
What is any one going to do with their life at any age?

>low test
You can still have children with low testostrone.
Now if you're sterile thats a different boat.
Low test!=sterile
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>>686156698
Awwwww he's a good dad.
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>>686159398
You mean in 20 years when you kill yourself because you don't have kids.

As I said before, low test.
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>>686156698
I've chemically castrated myself in the pursuit of living life as a female
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>>686156698
:'>
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>>686159613
Go back to >>>/fit/
Your steroids are showing
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>>686156698
I had a vesectomy
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>>686156698
Cute but bad parenting
they need to learn to sleep by themselves, this way the kid will get used to sleeping with him and then it will be really hard and lots of crying to get her to sleep by herself
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>>686158198
>GF been hanging out with alphas
>gotta tie her down for nine months
>at birth, self esteem so low she could. Never leave me
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>>686159487
He's not >>686159839
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>>686156698
how did this make me tear up though? huh...
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Had a vasectomy and was circumcised on the same day, was probably raped by the doctors while I was unconscious
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>>686156698
God damn that is some kawaii shit nigger.
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>>686159908
Just saw that, Im going to note that for future reference
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>>686156698
I'm probably low test, yeah, but I just don't like kids. I'd go so far as to say I hate them. They're so fucking annoying, and I certainly don't want to have to wipe their ass or spend my money on them.
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Regardless, Low T is found in betas. I have NEVER met an Alpha Male with Low T, at any phase of their lives.

Also, taking testosterone is dangerous. Even if you are Low T beta. You have an increased risk of early-onset dementia, cancers, heart attacks, deafness, blindness, strokes, and the list goes on.
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>>686156698
Just found out I'm expecting my second, feelsgoodman
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>>686159912
As human men we aren't like other animals, we want to protect kids and want them of our own.
You're a man
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>>686156872
A tip of my fedora to you.
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>>686156698
Want to be stable before I have children
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>>686156698
God i hate kids so much, ugly annoying pieces of shit. Cant do anything with them till they are older but then they are retarded teenagers... Better get a puppy you piece of shit.
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I'm a dad, nothing's is better than coming home from working a 10 hour shift, and greeted at the door by my smiling daughter. Feelsgoodman.jpg
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>>686161091
>full of shit
>Unless you're raping her
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Because I don't want to be a dad
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>>686160480
>You're a man

white man*
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I dont belive in bringing in a child in to thie decaying social world. Also population control
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>>686156698
Because no intelligent and attractive woman would want to have a child with me :(
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>>686156698
Am dad, 21

Fucking loving it.
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>>686161244
Naw, unless you experience it yourself you will never know, but then again I always wanted kids
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>>686156698
you make me cry fucking /b/
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>>686156698
Napoleon is still alive?
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>>686161860
>DADDY DADDY LETS DO THIS THING
>buti just got home
>WAAA DADDY HATES ME *SLAMS DOOR*
>hello wife
>WELL GUESS HOW MY DAY WENT *INCOHERENT BITCHING FOR 30 MINUTES*
>Im going to go change
>THATS JUST LIKE YOU,YOU DONT CARE ABOUT ME ANYMORE
>change
>grab a beer to relax with dinner
>DADDY LETS PLAY DOLLS/PRINCESS/OTHERSHIT
>daddy is tired from working 10 hours daddy needs to calm down and relax
>YOU ALWAYS SAY THAT,YOU HATE ME
>...
>...
>I hate my life
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>>686156698
>>686156698
I don't want to give a woman that kind of control over me. I like doing the things I want to do more. Vasectomy, here I come!
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I find it immoral to have children. There is nothing you can do in your life to make a meaningful life for your children. The world sucks so why would I want to force people to live in it?
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>>686162235
>he doesn't playing with his kids as a stress relief

The telltale sign of a bad father
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>>686156698
Unfair marriage / custody laws for men.
Expensive.
Ruins life.
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Wife's 15 weeks pregnant. Can't wait to raise a little desciple and watch him/her tear up the competition.

Wife and I go to the gym 4-5 times/week, cuz I firmly believe vigorous exercise during pregnancy is excellent for both the mother AND child. Not to mention I now get to fuck her super-horny, slim little frame with her newly milk-laden jugs. I fucking love my life
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Because im 18....the fuck?
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>>686162235
I realize I'm taking bait , buy it's not like that in the least bit. I actually enjoy doing things with her. To me she isn't a chore
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>>686156698
I was born with the inability to produce sperm.
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>>686156698
I'll have you know I am a dad. Have been since I was 19.
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LOL you're shitting your life away.
don't you have dreams?

children are for basic people. common as dogshit

/r/childfree for enlightenment

fulfill your potential brothers
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>>686162287
Never got over >>686162343
your teen angst, huh? Shame...
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>>686162592
Dude just wait. I used to be a gym rat like you, now I'm lucky if I got twice a week. It's all worth it in the end congrats man
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that's not me
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>>686162673
Don't worry, anyone in this thread posting about not wanting kids had bad parents thus no role model of how to do it right.
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Too expensive

My gf hints at it all the time but why would i want a little bastard running around? Im only 21, im still just a kid
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>>686156698
I'm only 24. I'm waiting til at least 28.
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maybe i shouldn't have kids. this webm reminded me of Penny's New Bed.
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>>686162881
>actually believing this
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>>686162881
or they have potential in life and don't want to lose it. kids take all your time and FUCK your dreams up. trust me.
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>>686156872
>>686158127
>>686158298
>>686158323
>>686158787
>>686159626
>>686161006
>>686162272
Pure cancer. Disgusting hedonistic children the lot of ya.
>>686158486
You do realise white people are the only ones not spewing out babies left and right? There wont be anymore "white" with your degenerate attitude.
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Never habing kids. Too afraid they'll turn out faggot/disabled/pussy/slut
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>>686156698
because men don't have parental rights
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>>686163128
They do if the mother is a drug addict or alcoholic.
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>>686162973
Good luck getting a solid career without a family.

People just don't trust single men. Best pray you are a successful entrepeneur or something because if you don't have a family at 40, nobody is going to promote you.
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>>686162881
I actually had a flawless father that raised me entirely. My mom is apeshit though. My childhood/life experiences planted a massive fear of women in me.
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>>686162871
Yeah, I can totally see that happening
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Not until I see who sits on the iron throne and the ending of the sequel trilogy of sw
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>>686162973
Found the one who has a nigger for a father
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>>686163279
sometimes that's not enough or the grandparents of the mother's side are still preferred
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>>686162868
Keep telling yourself your life is worth living, pal.
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>>686162592
>super-horny, slim little frame with her newly milk-laden jugs

jealous.....pics?
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>>686163289
>People don't trust single men
>Hey james can you help me out with this contract next tuesday?
>Also how are the wife and kids?
>You don't have kids?
>You know on second thought I think I'm going to have carl handle that contract, he just seems more responsible

Imagine actually believing this.

Unless you're running for senator or president nobody gives a shit if you're single
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>>686159839
>Girl turns 18
>Still needs to sleep with you
>Bad parenting
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>>686163355
It's worth it though, I'm lucky enough to have some gym equipment and home
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>>686162871
21 years old with a 2 month son. Kinda shitty but at the same time fucking awesome. And I feel sorry for you. I used to go to gym 5 days a week. And I still do. Tell yo bitch to stop being a bitch.
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>>686163518
If your life isn't worth living, then kill yourself. Life's fucking hard, it has never, ever been otherwise. I don't care if you're a richfag or poorfag, everyone has problems that are equally grevious on a relative basis.

And as far as meaning goes? That's for you to figure out. If you can't find anything worth living for, just end it. Jesus christ
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>>686163731
More like

>This guy has 4 kids to feed and really works long hours for his family

>That guy lives a bachelor life, doesn't worry about finances like the family man, thus probably won't work as hard
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>>686162673
this.

2 year old daughter, wife is pregnant with our son. if you don't like your kids and need to avoid them to de-stress, you shouldn't have been a father. kids are amazing.
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>>686156698
Would be nice a reason to live
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>>686162235
Sounds like a cancerous family
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>>686164276
What if your kids feel the same? You will have indirectly cause the death of at least one other person.

Let me guess, your kids could never turn out like that because you're the best parent ever, right?
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>>686156698
You know you've been on /b/ too long when you're expecting him to whip his dick out and give her the pacifier.
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>>686163731
Naw, I've had sever a bosses tell me straight up their first picks for new hires would always be someone with a family over someone single. A man with a family has responsibilities that'll push him so much farther than someone without one
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>>686164318
>le strawman xdddd

More like

>This guy has been through 3 divorces and can barely feed his (new) family

>That guy lives a bachelors life and has enough time in his day to fulfill the needs of the company. He is good at decisions and doesn't have issues digging himself into holes he can't get out of
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>>686156698
I don't want little shit kids.
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>>686164504
Lol, by that rationale, your parents are to blame for how much you hate your life.

Like I said, you're an angsty high schooler
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Numerous genetic defects I wouldn't subject on someone else. Adoption would be an option if I had a suitable partner for while I was at work, but I doubt I'll get one at this rate.

I'll just provide for my friends' kids and be the cool not-actually-an-uncle who lets them stay up late and play videogames.
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>>686164563
So basically they do hire family men more often, but it's because they know family men don't have the choice of leaving the company.

I see your point now anon >>686164318, now I want kids even less.
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>>686156698
Actually my wife is pregnant, baby is comming in august.

Perhaps cuz i am an Oldfag since 07 and the majority here is underage spoiled kids..
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>>686164831
Well, they are because they birthed me without considering the consequences.

Having children is the most primal thing humans still do. What a shame
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>>686164886
That's worst case scenario for the family man.

Best case scenario is his wife is a SAHM and thus he can work even MORE hours than the bachelor because he still needs to cook and clean.
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still a virgin
the fuck did you expect?
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>>686164832
>genetic defects
One of the few legitimate reasons to not have kids in my mind. Shitty dice roll, anon

Fuck those people who don't want the responsibility. Without kids or the desire for kids, you have no stake in the future, and thusly your vote should count for half of mine
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>>686165014
Aaaaand, it's summer
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>>686156698
I am a dad, I have a 2 year old son and a baby daughter
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>>686156698
Because humanity doesn't need anymore children. Your kids won't thank you for birthing them in twenty years when they're fighting WWIII over clean drinking water.
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>>686165014
And primal is inherently bad? That's nonsense
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>>686165138
>Fuck people who don't want to make the same decisions I do
>Because I disagree with your lifestyle choices, you should be worth less than I am

I love though that you're so selfish as to project on other anons the fact that you yourself don't care about anyone else except your family. Everybody should have a stake in the future, kids or no.
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>>686165260
>can't win the argument
>must be summer

There you have it folks. This is why serious discussion can't be had on /b/
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>>686165385
Sure, when it's the sole reason for doing something it is.
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>>686165454
>can't win the argument
>must be summer

that behaviour pretty much makes him right again, doesn't it?
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>>686162592
Pics or it didn't happen
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>>686156698
Because I jack off to loli and I have depression therefore I hate myself and am terrified of what having kids might awaken in me
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>>686165138
Parents tend to believe crazy things. If you really think they should have extra voting power, spend some time at your local PTA. Most of the problems in American public schools are a combination of psychotic parents and a lack of reliable funding.

Of course, I never believe anyone who says they should have extra legal privileges because they are them and other people aren't.
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>>686163817
>daddy I need more food formula to lick off your dick
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>>686165355
>in twenty years
Think again, friend. We will be marching towards greatness in Chancellor Trump's army in just 12 months. First Mexico. Then the world.
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>>686165138
Out of curiosity say there is a teacher who is single. He/she teaches middle schoolers for a living and is pretty passionate about it.

Does that person have no stake in the future?
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>>686165580
I'm not trying to be facetious here but I don't see your point? Are you saying that because I didn't continue the argument when he blatantly gave up makes me wrong? If so I don't follow
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I'd be a horrible parent
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>>686163514
Not in the U.S., go read any states law. Judge cannot prefer grandparents to father unless father is -proven- unfit (convictions, proven molestation, etc.)
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>>686166020
Whoops, wrong punctuation on that first sentence. Sorry
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>>686165441
>Everybody should have a stake in the future, kids or no.

Yeah, but what stake is that? How can you have a stake in the future when your genetics are no longer a part of the gene pool? You're literally gone, none of you is left after you die. Whereas if you have kids, THEY are your stake. THEY are (as t least somewhat) you
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>>686165138
You should consider killing yourself and your kids
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>>686156698
Jesus h OP get those fucking bumpers out of her crib. That shit causes SIDS. I'm serious. 3/10 dad for not keeping up with Academy of pediatrics recommendations
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>>686166020
meant because the first thing he does is to call out summer meme on that guy is pretty much a summer guy thing to do.

So it would be summer because of himself not the one he calls a summer fag.
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>>686156698
Crib bumpers are killing machines you negligent parent.
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>>686156698
Love being a dad. Best decision I ever made.
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>>686166166
That's the entire point. You cannot see that you should have a stake in the future for the sake of other people, not just yourself or your kids, but everyone's.

You can decide not to give a shit and that's fine, but you certainly can't take any form of moral high ground if you don't even care for other people.
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>>686166166
I hope you realize how insignificant you, your kid's, and everyone else's lives are. Life is a game you are supposed to play, and be played on. The biggest move you can make is to stop producing players for the world to shit on
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>>686165824
I hope you die
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Because I'm stupid, poor and ugly.. No woman will ever want to have kids with me.
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>>686159263
Wow, it's Louis C.K. has an empty hole where God should be...
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>>686166364
Gotcha ya. I should have got that from your post the first time around. Oh well
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>>686166541
It ain't gonna lick itself
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>>686156698
this isn't the /b/ i remember
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>>686166541
Currently at max anger, lol
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>>686156698
Schizophrenia runs in the family, it tears the family apart.
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>>686166166
Well done with ketchup
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>>686166518
Your analogy is reasonable except it's cobclusion. If life is a game refusing to have kids is giving up by depriving your team of players.

Essentially the fedora version of "I'm taking my bat and ball and going home."
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>>686166518
If life is like your so called game, then it's only fair to see how the individual is the larger beneficiary of a child being born than the world.
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>>686167207
Really?Same here. My mother is schizo and I'm kinda fucked up as well. Have you tried having a relationship?
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>>686167328
What's wrong with giving up? And who's team do you think you're playing on?
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>>686167533
>>686167328

Am I alone in not knowing that the fuck these guys are trying to say?

>If life is a game refusing to have kids is giving up

>the individual is the larger beneficiary of a child being born than the world.


Personally I would say not having kids is more like keeping your money and spending it on a new Jeep instead.
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My daughter is the best thing to ever happen to me.
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>>686167207
My dad had schizo and turned out fine. He was a reserved man but when he was more boisterous he really made it work.

If your mother was nasty then you can only blame your shitty dad for thinking its a good idea raising kids with such a bitter person.
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>>686166166
Did Mother Teresa have children? Did Jesus have children?

You don't need to have kids to make an impact in the world. Hell, more people on this already overpopulated planet is detrimental to the human race.
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>>686167533
I don't see how forcing someone to exist is a big benefit to anyone
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>>686156698
I'm only 20
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>>686163289
LOL how funny. I am an entrepreneur (bay area, sf).

Guess I'm fine. Lots of people here are rich as fuck and childfree.

I'd feel pretty pathetic and worthless if my career was in someone else's hands anyway. Thankfully I'm a cofounder.
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>>686168011
I don't understand why people keep saying this, maybe I never will, from my perspective it just seems like something people say after the fact once the decision is completely out of their hands. If you're truly happy good on you, it's all well and good.

The other anons here though basically shit on anyone who hasn't made the same life decisions
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>>686168273
You must have had a shitty childhood. Don't you want to experience Easter egg hunts again? Building a treehouse with your neighbours? You can do it all again and again by producing children. That's why we do it. It's the ultimate stress relief and if you want to be successful then you need it.

Forcing them to exist in your developed country with all the benefits of low unemployment and high benefits to the lower class, where you can produce a healthy functioning person who you love and care for and will be by your side for the rest of your life, and the best part is they don't get a choice in it? What a bargain.
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I would rather die than have kids right now.
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Just had my baby in the 11th. It's awesome. Though at times, but very worth it so far
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>>686168991
I'm tearing up. You are a lucky man.
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>>686168640
Reminds me of bronies who use their daughter as an excuse to watch MLP in public
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>>686156698
Been there, done that
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>>686161789
if you and your gf/wife have enough money to raise him/her then well played anon! i wanted a little mischief maker but my gf left me in January.
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Getting cut next month! Wooooooo! Fucking hate kids. 32. 0 kids thanks.
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>>686164457
this
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>>686168991
he/she is beautiful. gratz anon <3
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i kinda want kids. But sometimes i wonder. I mean...well I'm a incestuous pedophile. Should i even have kids?
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>>686165081
kek
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>>686168991
congrats anon!
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>>686169716
>>686169105
Love every second of it. He woke up while I was watching Deadpool and had the time of his life
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>>686168241
Yeah bit that's because they're asexual. If you have no libido, use your other gifts for God.

But having a libido and purposely avoiding responsibility... that's being a pussy.
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>>686156698
hot.
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>>686165355
Humanity needs more WHITE children and less non-white children.
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>>686170826
Why
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>>686167877
>What's wrong with giving up?
Its just what losers do. If you're a loser, go for it.

>Who's team?
You genetic line. Ultimately I think it's competing against the inorganic but, since the inorganic can't perceive we're catching up, other forms of life will do. Instinct would say tribe against tribe.
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>>686170826
THIS
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>>686168640
You don't see my point. I can't usually get through to people so I'm not surprised
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>>686170973
Cause we're good at making infrastructure as long as we keep the Jews from getting involved... Unfortunately we fucked that last bit up put of guilt over letting one of our German Bros take it -way- too far.

"It's convert or exile Adolf, we've been doing thus for 2 millenia, where the duck dud 'gas em' come from"
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>>686169769
Yes, but never, never act on that shit. If you love your kids, don't ruin their lives.
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>>686171431
you are saying that your reason for not having children. is because of the Jews? you're pathetic man.
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>>686171703
yeah. Thats where i am right now. I would never harm a child. let alone my own.
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i am not a retarded selfish fuckwad who believes my genetic material is needed in a world of overpopulated shitbag humans and even if i felt a raising a child was warranted i would adopt like a person with a greater understanding of the value of life
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>just joined thread, not gonna read all text, just gonna leave this quicky..
its a great responsibility.
i even have a hard time taking care of my self.
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I want kids
I really do
But im a 21 year old virgin
I get so nervous when talking with females one on one that i say the most embarassing shit and dont even realize it till later

Any advice on how to stop being a waste of life?
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>>686168991
my daughter's due June 12
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>>686162987
>0 replies
have a pity (You) now kill yourself
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>>686170482
>avoiding responsibility

The responsibility does not exist because no children exist. Therefore, there is no responsibility to avoid. Someone who father's children creates a duty to them -- a responsibility -- that they can then dutifully embrace or try to run from. One who predicts that he or she would be an unsatisfactory parent to a child, regardless of their rationale for coming to that conclusion, and subsequently refrains from bringing another child into the world as a result is actually being a very responsible individual, as he or she is refraining from introducing a new child into an environment that would likely not be full of affection and care(and to the circumstances of which an unborn child can obviously not voice objection).

Please, do not say stupid things on my internet.
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>>686172407
That's awesome anon! First kid?
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>>686156698
dem feels! but that boy needs to learn the hug and roll
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>>686171971
Not me personally, I mean what happened to most of the white race in general. Don't genocide the kings of profane unless you finish the job.
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>>686172903
>First kid?

I love how that matters
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>>686172751
TL; DR
If you wanna write a book go do it on your blog.

You're wrong. Everyone needs to do their part to give back to society what was given to them.
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>>686156698
I don't consider I have the mentality to be a father. I consider that I lack the father ability that most people seem to just have. Other than that I just consider I would be a shit dad like the piece of shit I already am...
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>>686156698
One more month.
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>>686162235
This is how alcoholism starts. It's only making you more tired. Appreciate how lucky you are to have a family and a home. Play with your little girl before it's too late.
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>>686173835

>defenses activated

I give back in other ways, and will successfully do so without ever having a child. Interestingly, I do not need the social validation that you seem to crave.
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>>686172376
yeah, start lifting, go out with your friends and do outdorsy stuff, sports, hunting, trecking anything. I

If you don't have friends start there. call people from high school, college. Ask people at work.

If you still can't find friends work really hard, you are going to need to earn a lot of money to stop being a faggot.
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>>686174488
>not smoking weed immediately after you put her to bed
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>>686166457
>>686166518
>>686168241
All these people slaves to the doctrine of need. Slaves to the idea that all of us should live for everyone else and NOT for ourselves.

Every single person's highest moral imperative is the advancement of his or her own values. Love itself is simply the recognition of one's own values in another. The ONLY reason to procreate is to attempt to create more people that will carry your values forward once you can no longer do it youself.

The only stake any of us can have in the future revolves around the values that inform our whole moral code. The preservation of those values is that stake. Thusly, a childless school teacher can certainly have a stake in the future, often moreso than the thoughtless parents of the average child
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>>686162987
Lel like the human race matters anyway. We'll all be dead soon enough.
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>>686156698
A) I've got shit genetics that I'd rather not pass on.
2) There are enough people in the world already. Too many actually.
D) I'm horrible at organizing lists.
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>>686174933
>got shit genetics

just find a bbc to fuck your wife then, you beta. why are your genetics so shit?
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Due next month. Having a girl.

I'm not a robot
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>>686159263
Louis also has kids
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>>686175013
>why are your genetics so shit?

Don't know. Guess my parents have shit genetics. I'm ugly, weak chin, premature balding, sickly, and cancer runs rampant in my family. We don't ALL have to have kids you know.
And take your cuck fantasies and fuck off. That shit is played out.
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>>686175232
You sound emasculated to me. How can you be a proper functioning man and believe you are genetically inferior?
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>>686156698
i value money more than happiness
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>>686160445
I hope your wife has a miscarriage.
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>>686156698
because i'm to busy making money and enjoying it.
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Ayyyyy
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>>686162592
I hope the baby dies when your wife is around 35 weeks and she has to deliver it. You were so close to being parents and all you have left is a dead rotting child.
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>>686175970
Good goy. Work hard for those shiny objects.
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>>686176190
Which seems likely I'm pretty sure strenuous exercise is not good for a baby in utero
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>>686170176
Hideous. Kill it.
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>>686171061
The only way to defeat death is to stop feeding it.
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>>686176508
That's right. That's why I hope it happens late in the pregnancy. So the parents can do penance for being such awful human beings.
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i do not feel love for nothing and no one and i don't care to pretend to be a normal person by burdening myself with acting the part of the family man
also i don't like putting effort on things that do not benefit me and i see no benefit in having a wife and child... only unnecessary obligations and wasted time
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>>686173835
What has society given to me that I asked for? Hint: nothing
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>>686175343
Not him but kill yourself. He doesn't need to justify himself for your entertainment.
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I feel sorry for the children whose parents ignorantly, frequently browse /b/ on the regular, especially OP. May God have mercy on their souls.

Hurpty derp, I'm low test! Lelelelelel.
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>>686156698

Because I don't want to have to do shit like in your video, OP.
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>>686175343
He's taking an objective view on his life and physical being. Nothing "emasculated" about calling the something what it is
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>>686176946
Fedora-tier, but I agree.

Please. Pleeeeeeease. Let us not pretend that you're having having kids to "give back to society"; the same society that has done the bare minimum for you and that you routinely bitch about in other contexts.

It's your rationalization because it sounds nice, but you had kids as an extension of your ego, not to "give back" on the statistically poor chance they'll make meaningful contriutions to the world.

It's okay to admit that you're afraid of dieing and that that is what it's been about all along.
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I want to. Just never had the right circumstances.
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My girlfriend is moving in, and she's a single mom of a 4 year old girl. I don't want any kids myself but I don't mind them around. I always said if I had any kids they'd be adopted, because newborns are just way too fucking much for me.

inb4
>cuck
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>>686177921
You want to directly cause the death of another person? That is what you are doing by having kinds because your kid's will certainly die eventually. The only way to prevent this is not having kids.

I mean, if you're going for a high K/D, it's a pretty good option. That, or going on a murder spree
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Im young (21) and want to study firsr and life my live before creating life myself. Also im not interested in a serious relationship right now. So yeah. Later when its the right time id like to be a father but not now.
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>>686178065
Literal definition of a cuck
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>>686156698
Why spend $200,000-$300,000 on a kid when I can spend that on a house, car, motorbike and multiple holidays?
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>>686174713
I see a lot of blabbering but not a lot of support.

Of course you can live for others above yourself. Altruism is real, that's why we made a fucking word for it. You're just an asshole trying to convince yourself that everybody is an asshole to escape from the guilt you feel from having a meaningless life.
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>>686174862
Some of us will live eternally. You will probably die though, so you're right in that regard.
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>>686178594
Unless you plan on escaping this universe, you will certainly die at some point
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>>686178320
How am I a literal cuck when she had the kid before we ever dated? A cuck is someone who unwittingly cares for offspring that isn't theirs, like someone who thinks they're the father when they aren't.
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>>686156698
I will travel around the world first, get money, fuck as many women i can in a life time, hangover then be a respectful father not a bunch a fags who wants to have many children but just to leave all of them
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>>686156698
thought something bad was going to happen
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>>686176706
Lol, that's obviously false. Death wins when life ends.

Your way is like the only way to win monopoly is to let the other guy have all the properties. Yeah, it'll be over, but you didn't win.
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>>686156698
But I am a dad. Two kids, ten years old and three months old. Good kids.
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>>686178746
Swap 'unwittingly' with 'willingly' and you fit that definition
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>>686156698
>implying the womyn will grant you visitation rights
>your genes will be passed on only to have the child taken from you and fed leftist propaganda
>and you pay for it
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>>686177714
By society I meant generally the human race to which I am grateful and to my neighbors whom I am congenial with. But if you're not thankful for the food on your plate (brought to you cheaply by society's commercial farming) the clothes you wear, (society's int. Treaties) or the fact that you don't need to fight to survive on a day basis (police), then you're an entitled asshole and just slightly better at hiding your fedora than the first asshole.
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>>686178065
Newborns easier than toddlers. I assure you. 4 is when it starts getting easier though
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>>686178743
Universal entropy is a disfavored scientific theory. Stop learning your science from Madoka or Asimov
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>>686179765
4 was where I said I'd adopt on minimum so this is fine for me though this is a lot quicker than I'd planned on having a kid.
Actually I'm getting a vasectomy soon.
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>>686178993
The difference is I volunteered to play monopoly. I didn't ask to live life, same as anyone
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I want to have kids more then anything in the world... But I am terrible in relationships because I dont get caught up in all the emotional shit. With kids, obviously, it will be different. Thinking about adopting...
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>>686178488

my grandfather (as his father before him) worked hard so that his children will have a "better life".
my father worked his whole life to give me a "better life"
i will live my whole life to give my children a "better life"
and so on...
in the end who ever had the chance to actually enjoy that "better life" that his parents worked to make for him? by the time you are old enough to actually enjoy it, you get put into the loop of sacrificing your chance at that "better life" in the altar of "making a better life for your children"

i for one, decided to break that vicious cycle by choosing to live the "better life" instead of putting it on my testament.
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>>686176185
Damn he's good. Jackie Chan level.
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>>686179943
So what, the sun will exist in its current form forever? Humanity will progress far enough to colonize the stars? I'm intrigued
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