Why is Fallout 3 held in such high opinion compared to New Vegas? I felt like, story, setting and humor wise Fallout: New Vegas did everything better and then some. Yet all of my friend agree with each other that F3 was superior. I just don't get it.
Maybe you can explain this one to me, /b/.
>>685927645
Actually, the majority prefers NV over 3, but I'd choose 3 all day. Why? Dunno, it has a atmosphere NV never reached.
they both suck
It isn't on /v/. New Vegas is seen as the best there. I know they generally like to hate on the most popular games of their franchises, but they make some good points.
>>685927836
without mods, sure
I like New Vegas; hell, it's at least mechanically better than 3, though 3 does have a better atmosphere. Honestly, though, it feels like people were burnt out on Fallout by the time NV came out, there wasn't enough time between the last dlc and the next game, which was only incrementally better. It wasn't enough time, or enough of a leap in gameplay or content to really feel as memorable as 3 was.
Because NV is big empty sand bowl making everything just repetitive walking around. Not to mention the actual New Vegas was an absolute let down. Like, 3 loading screens separating it all out? Fuck all to do? And on top of that the storyline is inconsequential bullshit.
>>685927804
You said it.
People (especially /v/irgins) love NV for its nuanced dialogue options and such, but I don't really care about story in video games because it's all shit regardless. I like FO3 for its atmosphere for sure.
And also like you said, NV is generally considered (at least by hardcore gamers) to be better than 3.
How is Fallout 4 compared to these games? Can you invest as much time in that game as you could with FO3 and New Vegas?
>>685927645
new vegas starts you half way through a story and look at the blow back/damage control they had to run in f4 because of it...
still, its a nice expansion, the clan/tribe deplomacy game is awsome..
>>685928382
To be honest, atmosphere is actually the most important thing in video games. A game you feel good in is fun and you forgive it even big mistakes and such.
>>685928431
Fallout 4 is a 4/10 game and a 1/10 Fallout game. Basically, it's shit, don't buy it.
Fallout 3 had a better atmosphere, story, and characters.
NV had a lot of cool mechanics and total freedom, but without a solid story tying it down I couldn't get into it nearly as much.
Just my opinion at least
>>685928659
Well that's disappointing to hear. I wonder what went wrong with it?
ive already brunt atleast 100 hours into fallout 4. I like it, id say fallout 3 still had the best atmosphere, better in almost every aspect over new vegas. the looting system the best I think ive ever seen.
Fallout 3 is like GTA3. Its not the best, but it's a classic
NV just had fuck all to do. You couldn't go exploring and find dungeons, everything was part of the main story and you'd fuck up the sequence if you went anywhere other than where the story told you to go. Would be great if the city wasnt separated so much and if the city quests were based in the city, rather than all the quests telling you to walk to the other side of the map.
Hopefully Obsidian will make another game, on Fallout 4s engine, and do the stuff they did well in NV without fucking up the other half of the game. Miami would be cool, Ocean Drive could be a good settlement, all the neon coloured lights, defending the waters, all that good shit.
I'd rather play Fable 3 or Doom 4 instead tbh. Or Dragon Age 1 2 & 3, THAN the Fallouts, if I had a computer.
>user posted this from side of his toaster
>>685928877
Don't listen to that guy, he's just a bitch.
Fallout 4 isn't the best as far as Fallout stories go, but as a game, it's great. Gameplay's fun, lots of shit to explore, plus you can make your own lair and decorate it with shit.
Basically, it's got most of the advantages of 3, and then adds some better character/world building elements.
It's also easily moddable, if you're into that.
>>685927645
While NV is definitely superior as far as story expansiveness and actually feeling like the story matters since you have more influence and just having a larger world. However, as far as mechanics go, 3 feels way better. Especially the shooting. In NV it's pretty much VATS and just using superior firepower to win swiftly but in 3 there's actually legit cover and high ground which makes VATS optional and can actually play as an FPS a lot better. Only thing NV did better in this regard is features like hardcore mode, DT instead of DR, weapon mods etc...
NV is lore friendly 3 is not. Therefore 3 is not fallout and it is shit.
Fallout 3 had an amazing atmosphere as well as a better exploration in my opinion. New Vegas had better mechanics as well as a multiple choice story. Which was fun beating the game different ways and stuff. The story told from NV dlc was amazing.
>>685929365
But, you can aim down sights in NV...
>>685927645
dont know where you've been looking NV is rated higher my most, personally i dont like it, to much like a shit cowboy game, i like fallout4 i think theyve got it right, i also think we are not seeing the bigger picture with it
I've played both with an explorer-mindset: just running around and into stuff.
Fallout 3 was a living world, you never knew what you would run into.
Fallout: New Vegas was like a huge soundstage full of actors and props. Everything was methodically placed for you to find when the game felt like it was the right time. Finding a cool-looking place just to realize that you needed to do something else before going there was just awful and it happened way too often.
>>685929324
That actually doesn't sound too bad. I guess people just had higher expectations of it, hence all the negative online feedback.
>>685928431
God no. I spent over 300 hours on PS3 NV, 250ish on PS3 FO3, and Steam says 832 on PC NV. I have yet to hit 80 hours in FO4, it's just... not interesting. At all. Some nice ideas in there, but the meat of the game is pissweak, the companions are a chore and a half to make them feel anything other than utter apathy, and the most fun I had was turning a drive-in theatre into a fortress of doom. Granted, it was fun, but it's the kind of thing that's fun to do 2-3 times, and after that the town-building gets old.
I find that New https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9515482/4/Rainbowsegas is the better game, but Fallout 3 is the better world.
>>685929999
checkd
>>685929999
>Checked
Enjoying the fan fiction mate?
>>685927645
1. Green is better than brown. Every colour is better than brown.
2. Fallout 3's map wasn't 100% flat.
3. Better music.
NV had a far better engine though. Hardcore mode was so much better than the base game of either. New survival in F4 is better though.
>>685927645
>better karma system
>better story
>better dialogue
>more interesting characters (imo)
>pretty fucking sweet dlc
>more lore friendly with the original fallout games than 3 was
And then fucking 4 came out. Bethesda, please let Obsidian make another game for fuck's sake.
>>685929999
Fuck my life. First quads ever and I blow it on this
>>685929999
kek. way to shame yourself.
>>685929999
>https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9515482/4/Rainbows
A tranny brony. Kill yourself.
One thing that has always made me curious is how come that Bethesda always got a free pass for their poor excuse of game launches? Any other company would have been slaughtered if they released games as broken as Fallout 4 but people were generally okay with it.
Fallout 4 was as shallow as Todd Howard himself.
>>685931064
They ship it with a debug console to fix any errors you come across, and an enjoyable core gameplay experience. Better than you can say of most modern AAA releases.
>>685927645
after story play
>>685927645
Fallout 3's story drew me in more and kept me engaged, but their weapon variety was pretty shitty compared to NV.
NV had an okay story, but it was made so much better by actually giving you a choice in who to side with as opposed to forcing you on the brotherhood of steel. It also had much better weapons and a fucking huge variety compared to 3.
However, since I played these on ps3, I only enjoyed about the first half of the games until they would start freezing up and crashing my system 20 minutes into the game, especially new vegas.
Side note, I believe point lookout is one of the best dlcs I've played ever.
>>685928431
I've played all the fallout games except for 2, which I'm working on right now.
Fallout 4 gets hate because "fans" of the series hate seeing a game evolve into the modern age. If they aren't using the same outdated engine from 2007, with the same everything, they'll hate it and give it bad reviews without even playing it.
Fallout 4 is quite different from the other ones, sure. It's got new mechanics and controls in line with other AAA FPS' like battlefield and cod, but the story and everything good about fallout is still there.
There's multiple factions to choose from, larger companion variety with very refined dialogue choices from previous games. There's still over 300 locations for you to sink hours of time in exploring.
Basically, it's a great game, even compared to its predecessors. I'd give it a shot if I were you.
>>685928060
>I know they generally like to hate on the most popular games of their franchises
New Vegas was more popular than 3 though, and sold just as much.
>>685933121
Fallout 4 sucks dick ok. As a standalone game it's ok but as a fallout game it just sucks. It felt like a different game but with a fallout coat of paint on it. Played for a week and just dropped it.
As for NV vs 3,id choose 3 purely for the experience I got from it. Besides the glitches and bugs sometimes causing you to lose a day or two of progress, the game was simply amazing. Naturally I bought NV and after a light month of playing it, I found it to be a disappointment to 3. It wasn't until a month before f4's release that I decided to give it a go on pc. With mods and better performance, I played the shit out of it. Opinion completely changed about it, but still I would choose 3 over it. 3 just has that special place in my heart. 4 on the other hand was obviously a test for future fallout releases. Hopefully they get it right next time.
>>685928276
>>685928382
>>685928567
>>685928743
>>685929618
>Muh atmosphere
Fallout 3 had shit atmosphere, it was nothing like Fallout.
>>685933121
>Fallout 4 gets hate because "fans" of the series hate seeing a game evolve into the modern age
Evolving? The game didn't do anything to move forward, all it did was move BACKWARDS by removing mechanics and features the previous games had.
It wasn't "different" it was just less of what we had already.
>very refined dialogue choices from previous games
lel
>>685933678
I remember a lot of people flipping out simply because NV had an actual ADS function. It was a minority of people who hate 4, however.
I know some people genuinely disliked 4, and that's ok. But lately there's a trend of gamers hating on AAA games simply for no reason other than it isn't the game they played x number of years ago.
>>685933915
The thing about 3 is that pretty much every location had its own little story and vibe about it. You never knew what you were going to stumble upon next or what was going to happen. For NV it felt all over the place really. Some locations felt like they were just thrown in there for filler and offered nothing but maybe a few bad guys or just loot.
>>685934191
This is so backwards. New Vegas' world actually made sense, everything had it's place. Fallout 3 was a theme-park of scripted props and random junk that made no sense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvwlt4FqmS0
>>685934030
What exactly did 4 lack that other games had? I'll admit, there were less diplomatic ways to go about the game, but I haven't noticed anything else.
4 had actual sprinting, better ADS, it took and improved upon the weapon modifications from NV, (at the cost of the weapon variety), the camera during dialogue was so much better than the awkward zoom in of NV and 3. I know there was overall less freedom with word choice because of the 4 button system, the dialogue felt more emphasized and the addition of voice actors helped put emotion in to it.
>>685934084
>I know some people genuinely disliked 4, and that's ok. But lately there's a trend of gamers hating on AAA games simply for no reason other than it isn't the game they played x number of years ago.
Or because they game has been dumbed-down into an FPS.
>>685934084
Oh please anon, get outa here with that. If a game is going to change, it has to change into something better. My fallout 4 experience just wasn't fun for me. I couldn't have fun with it and I wish I knew why I fully couldn't have fun with it. Maybe my expectations were too high and I just imagined the previous games but with much more detail and shit. Clearly I was wrong because that game was as barebones as possible. I would never recommend that game to anyone that has sunk in over 100 hours in the precious titles. Maybe for newcomers it's amazing but it just wasn't fun for me.
>>685934445
Fallout 3 and new vegas had the exact same camera options as 4. In all 3 games, you can zoom out to 3rd person. By that logic, fallout 3 had begun the trend of integrating into a typical fps.
>>685934445
So they fixed their combat system to not be shit and it is suddenly an FPS? Nice try friendo.
>>685934445
new vegas was more of an FPS than FO4 m8
FO4 has world building
new vegas has....
>>685934413
>>685934602
>>685934703
>>685934711
Well for starters they:
>Removed skills
>Removed repuation
>Removed karma
>Removed traits
>Removed skill checks in dialog aside from Speech
>No SEPCIAL or perk checks in dialog
>Almost no skill checks in quests
>All quests are now generic and linear, they literally just send you to clear out raiders from dungeons
>Less clothing
>Less weapons
>Dumbed-down dialog
To name a few.
>the dialogue felt more emphasized
You dialog choices mean literally nothing, no matter what you say you always get he same response. Pic related.
>>685933915
>Dismissing Fallout 1 and 2 as non-canon
What a cunt, haha.
>>685934602
>>685934703
>>685934711
Fallout 4 is not an RPG
>>685934314
When its a post apocalyptic wasteland it should make sense, especially when its a large city such as DC.
>>685934314
Weird, feels like the opposite from what I remember.
>>685934891
Shouldn't* i mean.
>>685934853
Fallout 3 has a better setting. It actually feels like a wasteland, dozens of tiny settlements instead of about 10 decent sized ones, and a shit ton to do.
Fallout NV doesn't feel as full, and the Vegas strip was a fucking let down. Its tiny.
>>685933121
>Fallout 4 gets hate because "fans" of the series hate seeing a game evolve into the modern age
Devolved*
>>685934853
LOL this chart says it all.
>>685935040
>Fallout 3 has a better setting. It actually feels like a wasteland
Underage Fallout 3 baby, see:
>>685933915
Why do people who know nothing about Fallout insist on spewing their shit opinions about Fallout?
>>685927645
>>685927645
new vegas full with bugs and at some point it started taking my weapons in shit ton of buildings i enter and that was annoying as fuck. i didnt play it any further. 3 the beginning was way more epic and overall better shieet.
fuck newvegas. its fag
>>685935045
It gained some and lost some. It's not the best entry, but it certainly isn't the unplayable piece of garbage some people make it out to be.
>>685934831
I noticed that too
>>685933121
I'm not a purist fan of the series or anything, but I did really enjoy 3 and NV, but Fallout 4 was absolute shit. I was hyped for it, even bought a special edition and loved it for about a week, but it just wore thin in no time at all
>very refined dialogue choices
I actually think I would have enjoyed the game to the point of finishing it if the dialogue wasn't so fucking abysmal. It was so bad and dumbed down, it was a complete insult.
>Fallout 4 is Fallout for the CoD generation.
>>685927645
your friends are just retarded OP
>>685929999
you fucking faggot
>>685935177
>It gained some and lost some
It lost FAR more than it gained.
>>685929962
This fag gets it
>>685935158
>Hurr some dudes opinion on another board is gospel
Kill yourself. Hes talking shit.
>>685935281
Underage who's first Fallout was 3 think that New Vegas was the black sheep, when in reality Fallout 3 was the black sheep. Fallout isn't supposed to be about ruins, it's supposed to be about the new world.
>>685927645
Your friends are weird vegas is the best
>>685935281
Are you actually this mind-numbingly retarded?
if theres a rich fag in here then plz send witcher 3 while its on a very good sale
[email protected]
>>685927645
I fucking hate deserts. And I fucking hate country shit. Thats why.
>>685935274
Are those actual dialogue options? Please tell me this is just a joke.
>>685935538
Awful taste.
>>685935158
For most people it went like this.
>spend good chunk of game making your way to strip
>get into strip
>oh... That's underwhelming
>now what
The hype for getting to the strip was ridiculous and when you get there which is shown as the height of the game, it's a lackluster place. Some of the background casino quests were OK like helping the prostitute out at gamhora or however the fuck it's spelled. Either way, the free side area was more exciting than the strip. If they could've made it more bigger and added more things to do and more npcs, I think it would've been great.
As far as I know, the only other notable thing I remember was the boomers up north and the solar panel place in the middle. Everything else was pretty forgettable or just not noteworthy
>>685929324
What gameplay? All the skill checks are gone it's all perk based. Voice acting sucks, All the options are Yes... neutral yes, sarcastic yes and yes I'll do it later.
It's just a bland borderlands and even then borderlands sucked dick
>>685935274
Well, with the dialogue not being hidden behind the ps4 controller buttons, it does look a lot more linear. However, I've finished all of the fallouts except 2, playing that now, and I had a pretty enjoyable time with 4.
Not trying to shit on any of the fallout games, I think all the main titles were great.
>>685935627
It's real, so is:
>>685934947
>>685934030
This is what Fallout has become.
>>685930454
I agree, also I loved the fallout 1,2 and tactics references in NV. Just throwing unique weapons in from the original fallouts not to mention just fact they brought back the original crafting for healing powder
>>685935538
Your personal problems doesn't make NV any less awesome.
>>685935658
then you didn't play the game long enough, that game is at least twice as memorable as 3
>>685935658
I don't get why people shit on the Strip for being small, when it was still bigger than any Fallout 3 or 4 location.
>>685935660
LOL he'll yea. Borderlands was boring as fuck. Maybe 2 was better. I wouldn't know because of how shit I found the first one to be.
>>685935643
Hey man, if you prefer miles of orange saturation and sand instead of buildings, and a crumbled city, thats your deal.
>>685934796
Fucking this so much
Fallout 3 is Fallout for casuals and children.
>>685935752
I never said the game was shit.
I just answered the question as to why I liked 3 more.
Everyone has different tastes and opinions man. I'm sorry thats complicated to you.
>>685928382
Not caring about story in an RPG...oh, you nearly got me there. 5/10
>>685935383
>>685935452
Mad fags who cant accept that some people prefer Fallout 3
You're so fucking arrogant. I really enjoyed Fallout 3 and NV. I just bought the Old world blues DLC. But I prefer Fallout 3, and I have several reasons why.
I've played 1 & 2, they were good but the technology of the day held them back, they're not as good as they could be. Fallout 3 fixed that by making it an FPS.
And Fallout 3 did it perfectly. There are several reasons why the Capital wasteland could be less developed, from an extremely high Super Mutant concentration, to the lack of control vaults. Have you noticed how every other fallout game has at least 1 functioning vault town? They contributed to civilisation with GECK's and a baseline genetic human population. But in FO3, all the Vaults are experiment vaults. The people up to literally had nothing, and started immediately from scratch. Even then, they're only in such a good state now because of Elder Lyons and his sympathy for the people of the Capital Wasteland.
How hard was that to explain, eh? Fucking nigger.
>>685935835
you're retarded
>>685934796
My main reason for hating it was the fact weapons materialize up my ass when I put them away instead of putting them on my back or something.
>>685936023
>I've played 1 & 2, they were good but the technology of the day held them back, they're not as good as they could be
yet Fallout 1 and 2 have more depth and more mechanics than Fallout 3
Fallout 3 was dumbed-down to appeal to casuals.
>>685935761
I played it twice. On ps3 and on pc before the 4th came out. Ps3 experience SUCKED but on pc I had a blast actually. I put in nearly 100 hours into that game in preparation for 4. As of right now, the only thing I can't stop thinking about is the fucking Sierra Madre. Spent so much time in that place that I ended up forgetting what I was doing in new Vegas. I had a lot of fun with NV though.
>>685936036
Oh man, I'm retarded because I don't like desert areas? Wow man.
Can't a guy hate the typical cliche snowy area, or desert area without being judged?
>>685935789
The strip was way too small. You could see that shit from so far away and as you slowly made your way back up north to be greeted by the place, it's just underwhelming. They could've done a lot with it. It was simply too empty and small is all.
>>685936023
This so much. Most faggots are too young to understand that fallout 3 was the shit at the time. When people say "new Vegas is better than 3" I cringe. It's like no shit you dumb nigger, it's a newer game so it should be better.
>hurr fallout nv is better than 3 hurr
>"Well of course, it's a newer game, it should be expected, but I still like fallout 3 for many reasons."
>hurr DURR muh fallout nv how dare you like different things than me
>>685936493
But Fallout 4 is worse than 3 and NV
>>685936023
>Fallout 3 fixed that by making it an FPS
True. Imagine how great a game like Starcraft could have been if it were developed as a first-person shooter.
Such wasted potential. All games should be first person.
>>685936591
>>685936164
Fallout 1 & 2 weren't more complex, they had more numbers and info sheets. Thats not synonymous with complexity.
Do you know how easy it is to make a 2D game? You can ram it full of as many facts and figures as you want. The combat was turn based for fucks sake, how is that complex? Everything was on a grid, and everything in the game could be killed simply by going online and looking up a BIS guide. Which was simple as fuck because everything was number based.
You colossal faggot.
>>685936597
It improved immersion 10 fold. How is that not making an RPG better?
Making your own character's looks. But on the other hand, who the fuck plays Fallout 3 as third person shooter?
I sunk probably a hundred hour or so into 3, thought it was pretty damn good.
I've tried to get into NV three times now, and I just can't enjoy it. Even though I love the idea of hardcore mode, thought I would love the iron sights etc.
The world of NV just doesn't interest me. I have no urge to explore it.
I'm having similar struggles with fallout 4 to be honest. I'm about an hour in and can't be bothered going further.
>>685936154
LOL THIS. HOW COME NO ONE SAID SHIT ABOUT THIS? How could you possibly take out such a primitive fucking feature that's been around for fucking decades in other games? Simple lack of details just throws me off, the purpose of sequels is too add much more detail into a game while expanding it into something better. You don't just fucking take things out and dumb it down to a basic ass title. I get that making these games costs a lot more than back in the day but cmon, that's no excuse to add little things to a game. It's as if devs are doing half the work knowing the product will sell well no matter what and they can get away with that. Decades ago if you pulled that shit, you were automatically a DOA company that wouldn't last to make another title.
>>685936670
>It improved immersion 10 fold. How is that not making an RPG better?
Because Fallout 3 was still lackluster. You don't need to see every spec of dirt for a game to be immersive.
>>685936591
Nigga, it was bound to happen eventually. They regressed so far that it became worse than all of the games before. It should be expected for a company to make the new game better than the last. If they don't meet the expectation then they failed as a company.
>>685937099
Well thats just like, your opinion man.
>>685937099
>trying to post his opinion as fact
Please stop playing video games.
Fallout 2 > Fallout 1 > New Vegas > Fallout Tactics > Fallout 3 > Fallout 4
/thread
>>685937357
>making fallout 1 and 2 in the top to make himself look more credible
>actually thinks they're good games
Absolutely disgusting.
>>685937319
Never said my opinion was factual, but it doesn't take a genius to see Fallout 3 was just another FPS playing at being an RPG. I'm not some hard core gamer, but if Fallout 3 had been called anything else and not a Fallout game I don't think it would have been as popular. Still played maybe, but the hype wouldn't have been there playing to an already established fanbase.
>>685937209
>>685937319
Maybe we shouldn't discuss anything because "ebryting is subjctive" . That's just a stupid cop out argument.
>>685936936
This is me
>>685933905
I know how you feel man. I just didn't get that feeling of wanting to continue on but I gave NV a second chance and it was pretty fun. Fallout 4 however was not fun causing me to drop it within the week. I feel that maybe I should give it another shot but there's just too many other games I'd rather be playing instead. Maybe try NV on pc with mods n shit. It was a completely different experience than when I played on ps3.
>>685937766
Look where you are m8ey.
>>685937572
I could switch F2 with NV, if that would make you feel better.
Probably most disagree with you, but I just love the whole Las Vegas feeling to it. NV just has a different atmosphere than the 3rd, 4th, 1st and 2nd had, that's why. Also, the DLCs were a lot better. Sure, 3 has the whole survival aspect, but NV makes it more like it's a living atmosphere.
I have around 1300 hours on New Vegas. Help me.
>>685937903
You're a sick fuck. But hey that's just your opinion I guess so I can't argue with that.
>>685937858
I know
>>685935660
>borderlands sucked dick
Now l know you're just trolling.
All fallouts are ass. Heres why:
>color schemes are shit. I didn't buy poop I bought a videogame
>despite revolving around guns, it has one of the worst shooting systems of all time
>voice acting is always shit
>morality system is fucking stupid in any game
>VATS is just an interruption to the flow
>decision effects are worse than ME3 ending
>too many bullets to kill a fucking rodent
>>685929324
>better character building
kek
>>685935040
>It actually feels like a wasteland
It's not mean to though. Fallout is a post-post-apocalypse setting
>>685928877
I'm a fallout 3 + n/v fan
I didn't like fallout 4 because it just doesn't feel the same to bright and colourful but I did enjoy the weapon and house creating
>>685936023
The capital wasteland shouldn't even have super mutants though
>>685927645
devfag here. Fallout 3 is better because it gives players a choice. You CAN'T choose a direction in NV and just 'wander around'. You CAN ONLY go on the ONE PATH that they want you to go on. For instance, if you wonder the wrong way at the start, get ready for impossible to kill scorpions.. then if you get past those by the grace of god, get ready for deathclaws... then if somehow most likely you cheat you get past those, you got invisible walls... then if you clip past the invisible walls the enemies on the other side OHKO, even if you cheat and get the biggest and baddest guns and the best ammo, you can't ever just 'do what you wanted'. It's not a challenge, it is just a shitty and lazy chore. For no other reason than that, NV gets off on the wrong foot by TELLING the player how to play, rather than the player find their own fun and uncover the world and all the neat nooks and crannies filled with interesting things.
Now, contrast that with FO3... once you get out of the vault --- you can choose any god damn direction you want to go. Sure,... they point you in the direction of megaton, but you by no means must go there first. FO3 was an adventure where you wanted to know what was over the next hill.
I played NV about a half dozen times since release, mystified every time I play it how horribly linear and not fun that it is.
Also, all of the factions in NV were gay as fuck and stale. The card game was worse than a waste of time. And the biggest sin, NV didn't have the soul and spirit that FO3 had... FO3 knew what it was and it did it well, whereas NV was a dumb ego trip by the original creators of fallout and their attempts to 'pretend to be good game developers' almost like "Hey, I can make good games too, ya know?... it is my toy after all, they just got lucky using my awesome source material". NOPE, your shit sucks, you suck, FO<3 were shit... go home your drunk and your mmo died too because it was a pile of shit.
tl;dr NV is donkey shit.
>>685936023
>Fallout 3 fixed that by making it an FPS
>FPS
>fixed
>>685938455
Please off yourself
>>685929074
Are you retarded? The story didnt tie you down. Your actions had consequences. If you go and shit on some legion then yeah, the legion are going to be pissed at you. But on the flip side you could do that if you wanted to. You could go and murder any one you like, literally ANYONE, the game didnt hold your hand and say no kiddo killing SOME people is bad. Fuck, I hated that about Fallout 3. Fallout 3 was an on rails story with good exploration. Fallout: NV was a choose your own story with less exciting adventure and better mechanics.
>>685938566
>Fallout 3 is better because it gives players a choice. You CAN'T choose a direction in NV and just 'wander around'. You CAN ONLY go on the ONE PATH that they want you to go on
It's funny because this is the complete opposite of the truth.
>>685938566
Fo3 has fuck all character choice though. you have to be some bullied social outcast from a vault. in 1 2 and Nv you can be whoever you want
>>685938668
>has no argument
I think they're both really good but in story I believe 3 to be better, in EVERYTHING else New Vegas is superior
>>685927645
New Vegas was superior in every way. Your friends are just idiots.
>>685927645
- It's the first modern fps style fallout game so it will always be held in more high regard than it deserves
- Qui-Gon Jin voices your dad
- The beginning of the story is arguably more interesting in fallout 3 than it is in new vegas.
- New vegas tries to style its self after a cowboy movie. Lots of people hate cowboy movies.
- If you played fallout 3, new vegas just feels like more of the same even if you really like it.
Those are the only real reasons I can think of. I loved the gameplay of new vegas a lot more though. Better weapons, more features, etc. Story was boring as fuck though not gonna lie. It might be more unique and interesting to someone that reads a lot of literature, but fallout 3 sets you on a clear path that is fun to follow. New vegas gives you a lot of choices that you don't even care about. Half way into the game I quit because I realized I just don't give to fucks what caesar has to say anymore... or whether they win their war against the don't give a fuck republic. It's just boring and makes you feel like you are living in a history text book that is being reinterpreted by mentally retarded people. That's basically what everyone in new vegas is. A mentally retarded caricature of various historic figures.
>>685938707
faggot that thinks playing fallout 3 is beating the main story... how cute
>>685938707
Lelele
>nv still ends the exact same no matter what
>illusion of choice with more options
>>685937357
New Vegas > Fallout 2 > Fallout 3 > Fallout 4 > Fallout 1 > Fallout Tactics
/thread
>>685939010
>>nv still ends the exact same no matter what
It doesn't. Did you even read it? Depending on what you do, the quest leads onto four different quests after.
>>685935711
I like you, youre a good anon.
>>685938284
>color schemes are shit. I didn't buy poop I bought a videogame
Some games can pull of a lot of brown and grey. i.e. Gears of War
>despite revolving around guns, it has one of the worst shooting systems of all time
Now you're exaggerating
>voice acting is always shit
It is pretty terrible. I agree.
>morality system is fucking stupid in any game
Not a lot of video games can pull off anything other than a black and white morality system, but I think that's more the fault of devs being lazy
>VATS is just an interruption to the flow
Vats was fine as a mechanic in the original Fallout games, but they did feel clunky in F3 and NV. I thought it was a little better in F4.
>decision effects are worse than ME3 ending
muh opinions
>too many bullets to kill a fucking rodent
Sheogorath: Oh, is this your first time?
>>685938707
There is several other quests in 3 that replicate the same formula that one does in NV. in fact NV only does it a few times. and it is correct. almost any direction I went in NV I was greeted by Deathclaws or High level idiots.
I was forced to go to New Vegas on a linear path otherwise I wouldn't have the gear or level necessary to explore.
I was level 12 before I even did the first part of the main quest.
I picked a direction, and did any side quest I could get my hands on.
>>685927645
I dunno, I liked them both equally but also liked different things about each one.
another obsidian fallout based off fallout 4's engine would be sick
>>685939202
I meant to say in that last part "In 3"
>>685938707
it's almost like you didn't even read what I wrote, you lazy nigger
>>685937357
Fallout 2 is the absolute best game in the series. i still play it periodically.
>>685938707
I think you misunderstood what he wrote. He's talking about the geography of the game world and the way it's set up to funnel you into certain areas, and he's correct.
In fallout 3 I wandered around in the beginning, killed some things, discovered some towns and hidey holes, stuff to loot, people to kill. It was fun, that's what fallout is supposed to be. Exploring around and having fun.
By contrast, in new vegas, a game I've started shitloads of characters in by now, there are really only a couple directions you can go in the beginning or you will get raped to death by enemies. Sure, you can still go around and explore, but it's a way less enjoyable experience because you will keep being killed by things they expected you to be max level by the time you saw. The game literally punishes you for going where they don't want you to go, but still gives you the option to go there so they can claim it's open world still.
Anyone who thinks NV forced you to go only one path is one idiotic piece of shit. Oh noes, you can;t go straight into a deathclaw nest right from the start...so fucking what? You can do so much other stuff in various other areas without having to follow the main quest at all.
>>685938566
Everytime I start a new NV game I run past the scorpions to the strip. It's incredibly easy; You're just bad.
>>685939124
Why is F1 so low?
>>685939664
Had a really bad experience with it.
>>685939664
>>685939709
Because old game does not mean it's good.
>>685939540
>I run past the scorpions to the strip
nigger, you're retarded... I think you proved my point exactly and you didn't even know it.
People love Fallout 3 because it was developed Bethesda. Bethesda could send reps out to shit in these people's mouths and they'd swallow it all with the biggest grin on their face and just ask for more.
>>685939540
I love how you are arguing against someone that is saying the game isn't set up to allow you to explore by straight up saying you had to run past all of the content just to get somewhere. It's almost like you made your own counterargument.
>>685934796
This.
>>685939845
It's not about the game being old. It's about how good of an RPG it was. I'd be lying thought if I said I wasn't giving it some nostalgia points, however.
>>685929074
Cities i would like to see in the next fallout game.
Miami,
Newyork (to include parts of the outlaying areas surrounding it.)
Hawaii,
Dallas fort worth texas,( my home town)
Houston tx
New orleans
Orlano (even if it is a fucking swamp bombed out disneyland or maybe they could parallel universe that shit and call it something else, but still base all the areas on what disney actually looks like. Dont know if real world locations and companies would require a royalty or purchase rights or something)
I would also love to see the first 2 fallout games completely re created fallout 4 style. Same story, equipment everything, just make them both using the fallout 4 engine with fallout 4 mechanics.
>>685934796
So much fucking this. I'm glad I got the game for hella cheap via a key. If I'd paid even half price for it I'd be pissed.
>>685939532
>You can do so much other stuff in various other areas
as long as it includes going to primm, then novac, then the strip
there is fuckall else apart from shitty ncr and legion camps without any worthwile quests
>>685940192
>fallout 4 engine
cool
>fallout 4 mechanics
fuck off
>>685928877
Fallout 4 is a solid 9/10 game but a 5/10 fallout game, it has lost most rpg aspects to it but still has the atmosphere, humor and shit
But 100% would recommend but don't go into it expecting a direct 3 or nv sequel it's more spin-off-ish
>>685940192
>I would also love to see the first 2 fallout games completely re created fallout 4 style
On an on related note I've wanted the same with Morrowind and Oblivion for awhile now, with Skyrim's engine.
>>685940686
It's already in the works by modders, but it probably won't even be half done by the time the next elder scrolls game releases
>>685940580
How the fuck is it a solid 9/10? Ignoring the fact it's meant to be a Fallout game, it's stupid easy, has a horrible story full of repeated quests doesn't look too flash, filled with all kinds of corner cutting, and has zero depth to damn every gameplay element.
>>685940192
that would be absolutely fucking horrendous and i hope with my every fucking cell that they don't fuck F1 & 2 up by trying to ”bring them up to date”
bethesda can suck my ass sweat.
>>685933915
The guy in the image saying there wouldn't be at least one state-spanning govt. is wrong. In Fallout 1 you get to see the capital of the NCR before it was the NCR. The lore says the NCR started grow after the events of Fallout 1.
>>685940580
would rate it a 6 or 7/10 at best. The dialogue is too cringy, the animations were rushed (always wanted to break piper's stupid arms every time she went "wooo!")
the character models are absolute garbage for a game nowdays...
not to mention this like the 5th game with that engine without realizing it's fundamentally flawed and will get buggy at anything past 60fps. If you don't believe me, disable vsync and try to pick a lock or use a computer terminal.
Oh, and if you don't guess the plot twist in fallout 4 as soon as they take your baby, you're actually retarded. So that kind of makes the rest of the game less interesting right from the beginning.
It is still a fun game though once you enable survival mode. Especially once you realize you have to utilize the settlements and actually build them up because you're going to be walking around a lot.
>>685940192
As someone that used to live in orlando, I honestly hope they just dropped a nuke straight on top of it. Fucking shitpile of a niggercity
>>685933915
Fallout 3 did not have shit atmosphere. I can tell you this because i've played fallout 4 which is actually the worst fallout game.
>>685933121
>very refined dialogue choices
refined to the point where they are meaningless
>>685935045
this nigga gets it
>>685927645
I loved fallout 3...
I loved new vegas...
I liked thd story of 3 more but vegas i enjoyed so much cause of mods. Modded the jesus out of it and had way more fun. But the linear way that vegas forces you to travel is crap
>>685927645
The fucking aiming mechanism in 3
>>685942119
Modded my game so much dead people got dicks for some reason
>>685933905
Tfw fallout 3 was a test for the new elterscrolls engine and made skyrim great. Tfw new vegas was a refinement on that engine and helped makw skyrim really great.
Tfw fallout 4 is the test for the next elderscrolls engine and will help make it great.
Lol
>>685940881
Get over yourself.
>>685933121
You must be full on fucking retarded to believe anything you wrote.
It is using the same shitty engine. It's mechanics and controls are NOT in line with other AAA FPS games. The factions suck, larger companion variety at the expense of quality, the refined dialogue is more of a case of what you say doesn't fucking matter and the over 300 locations there's maybe 10 unique ones.
>>685929174
Fable 3 is complete and utter garbage
>>685942426
>Skyrim
>Great
Pick one.
>>685937357
New vegas is better. People are just hating because it's referred to as a 'spin off'
>>685942550
>>685942690
This. If Bethesda had developed it, it would've been heralded by all the FO3 lovers as being so much better.
>>685934030
I like all of the fallout games personally but yes fallout 4 did have it moments but I like it for the most part fallout 3 was my personal favorite and nv was on our with 3 to me as well
>>685933121
fair words sir.
I think the rest of these weenies play games too much.
>>685927836
That's probably why they made Fallout 4.
For years I thought new Vegas was better because there was more content. Loved it, even did a hardcore unarmed play through.
Went back and played fallout 3 two years ago with all the DLC and it completely changed my opinion. I think fallout 3 is much better and I appreciate its tighter story in ways I didn't 8 years ago
>>685942671
Isn't that bannable?
>>685943473
I don't actually know.
