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ITT Why Trump?
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>>685858356
because it will be HILLARIous
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Because fuck the world and fuck you too
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>>685858356
because he's the best candidate by a long shot. He'll likely be the best president we've had in 3 decades.
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>>685858630
the best president in decades?

thats hilarious.
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>>685858893
>thats HILLARIous

to be fair, the bar has not been exactly put that high. little Bush was the worst economic disaster in the history of america and the current guy was caught trying to buy a senate seat before he even got into office.
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>>685859424
Hillary got caught in that entire BENGHAZI thing, and her emails probably contain incriminating evidence about it too.
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>>685858356
Because Trump is going to make me rich OP
along with the rest of brave enough to usher in Trump's economic revolution

also there will be less white people here by the end of Trump's term, so there's that
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>>685859760
don't get me started, I knew one of the guys that died, played an old style lp mud with him often.
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>>685858630
>he's the best because I say so

kek
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>>685859424
2016 still blaming Bush.
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>>685860304
Even Republicans admit Bush fucked shit up
don't be a faggot
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>>685859760
>durr Benghazi
>e-mails durr

durr
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>>685860217
i'm sorry to hear that anon.

honestly my biggest problem with clinton is her moral fiber (or lack thereof). we still dont even know how she feels about certain issues because a decade ago her answers were completely different.

but I will say this: her husband ushered in a microscopic golden age economy wise.
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>>685860507
not that anon but Clinton got lucky with the dotcom boom

otherwise, he opened our gasoline reserves and that's why gasoline was so cheap

not the most environmentally conscious person
and in the end Clinton just gave in to greed (see=deregulation of Wall Street)

I can see why people don't trust Hillary
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Would you rather have Hillary? And it will be funny to see everyone get pissed off.
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>>685860435
Sanders supporter?

Tell me, how much money do you think taxing 1% of a population is actually going to raise? How much money do you think it takes to run this country in its present model, let alone with free healthcare? sanders, his campaign, and his economic advisers are delusional about the figures they generate.
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>>685860304
stating the facts is not "blaming"

when lil bush took over the US budget was 1.8Trillion. To put that in perspective taxes for individuals plus companies on that year where 1.4Trillion.

When Bush left office the US Budget was 4T, and the total income was still 1.4Trillion.
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>>685860808
so since you can't prove Clinton is a unconvicted felon you make her out to be you're just gonna switch to Sanders?

ohhhh k
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>>685860782
This election is bullshit. I'm not voting, they're all fucking terrible for one reason or another.

If I were held at gunpoint, I'd probably go with Hillary but that's not saying much. I had to be put under threat of death to support her.
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>>685860939
>lil bush
look you shut up I'll have you know my penis size is comparable
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because fuck you, that's why

MAGA
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>>685858356
because hot girls are voting for him
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>>685861116
>lil bush
don't take it personally, I am just trying to make sure you don't confuse him with papa bush, who I actually liked quite a bit.
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>>685861281
America is already great
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>>685860941
>>685860987

also Israel is driving us into the ground.
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>>685861329
I know
it's a joke
not really fond of republicans much, though
Bush was the head of the CIA too, which you might think would rustle some jimmies
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>>685861433
Trump is pro-Israel
and both Clinton and Sanders could be counted on towards working out a 2-party state, so whatever
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>>685861309
I dunno anon some of those "girls" look like traps
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>>685861654
They're all pro-Israel, thats the problem. Netanyahu walks around condemning the rest of the world for brutality and corruption while ignoring the genocide hes responsible for in his own fucking country.
>genocide that we've been funding for decades now
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lesser evil and he isn't a shill
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>>685861792
yeah but forcing Israel to go 2 party state isn't actually "pro" what Israel wants so no
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>>685861792
cont. and remember when he came over here to threaten us about the Iran deal? that was fun.
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>>685861792
I know right? it is about time that he finishes the job
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>>685861999
you mean that deal where we give them 150B to fund terrorism and they sign a piece of paper saying "ha ha"?
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>>685858356
Because Americans are dumb
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>>685858356
This
half this thread should be in Hillary's Re-Education Programs by the end of 2017
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>>685862270
No I mean the deal that ended the gas crisis and led to a peaceful compromise over their nuclear project.
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>>685862310
I'm not dumb
I have a very logical reason why I like to eat nothing but bacon cheeseburgers
and fries instead of a salad
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>>685862270
>give them 150B
>just like the EU is giving Turkey 3B as well as expediting their application to join the union
>while they let ISIS agents and refugees freely cross their borders
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>>685861329
>papa bush, who I actually liked quite a bit.
oh yeah?

I voted Dukakis.
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>>685858356
why not Trump?
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>>685860217
Oh please, does it really even matter?

At this point what difference does it make?
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>>685862310
>>685862773
whoops, huh anon?
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>>685862310
Hitler didn't build the Berlin wall tho
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>>685862310
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hnVDAG65WU
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>>685862531
what part of the deal did you like better? The part where iran stopped dismantling the centrifugues it pledged to take out or the part where they captured US sailors and want to kick US off the red sea?

Everybody knows that deal means shit and Iran is laughing all the way to the bank
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>>685863009
He hadn't saved up enough Jewish skulls yet.
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>>685862773
Putin should have nuked Istambul when he had the chance.
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>>685861792
Srsly? You're a Hezbola supporter? They exist?
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Because the absolute madman is going to MAGA
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>be Trump
>leader of USA
>starts building border wall, costs over 1500 hammers
>"good thing I have most of my cities on production"
>3 turns later, almost ready to be built
>"BORDER WALL has been built by ENGLAND"
>tfw
>next turn
>"United States has declared WAR on ENGLAND"
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>>685863541
You don't have to be a Hezbollah militant if you have half a brain to recognize the hypocrisy going on. Genocide is bullshit, no matter who's doing the killing or for what cause.

We still dont even know the details of our own solar system yet, and we're wasting our time killing each other over whos savior walked on whos land or who killed this or that. Its all bullshit.
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>>685858356
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There is no lesser evil here
trump will start a race war
Hillary will start a civil war
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>>685862419
You again?
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>>685863090
captured US Sailors who WERE IN THEIR WATERS and let them go 15 hours later.
Yeah, fuck Iran for capturing a potentially hostile military force in their waters.

If Iranian sailors accidentally strayed into US waters they'd still be in Guantanamo
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>>685863925
this has to be bait
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>>685863090
Probably the part where our economic situation immedately improved afterwards. It's always great being able to afford food.

The soldiers that got captured were violating Irans borders. Sure they were "lost", but isn't that what all intel operatives would say if they got caught behind enemy lines? How do you think Obama would've reacted if Iranian soldiers just randomly showed up and started playing dumb about their whereabouts? Ask yourself if thats a logical conclusion to come to after the tension thats been going on between the US and THE REST OF THE WORLD.
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>>685863925
Ah the "I lost so this is universally unimportant" gambit
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>>685864500
he says, contributing nothing while claiming hes victorious.

well i didn't make this thread for a logical argument, i guess.
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>>685864874
The only reason there's genocide is because Hezbollah is using Palestinian people as human shields. When your enemy uses schools and hospitals full of people as bases of operation what are you supposed to do?
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>>685865288
Well surely the answer is keep killing innocent civilians and wonder why they hated you in the first place.
>obviously
>what other conclusion is there to come to?
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>>685863921
Kek
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>>685860939
sure kid. tell me were you shitting your diapers or picking your nose when all of this was happening?
stay mad faggot Obamas far worse than Bush ever was. even the democrats say that.
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>>685865430
Yes the answer is obviously to let yourself get attacked without retribution. How could they be so blind?
fucktard
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>>685860939
facts, that's HILLarious.
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>>685865979
The answer is something called "diplomacy". A foreign concept, I know, since you'd rather sit there circle jerking till kingdom come and wondering why nothings getting accomplished.

>turn the other cheek

isn't that a thing or am I just woefully out of touch with religious tenets?
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>>685866182
Not him but separation of church and state should be a thing. Don't drag turning cheeks into this. We are the big dog on the block. Sure the smaller ones fit into the smaller holes in the fences while they're running from us. But at the end of the day we are it. You don't get to be "it" if you're to busy turning cheeks.
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>>685866546
God damn it.
Too*
Fuggin mobile.
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>>685866182
Ahhh okay, I'm talking to someone who knows absolutely nothing about the Israeli/Palestine conflict. Sorry I wasted my time.

Just an FYI - turn the other cheek is Christian - the two warring groups are jewish and muslim. So you're wrong on all accounts.
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Everybody is shit. No one president will fix all of the fucked up stuff in this country. It would probably take at least 3 consecutive good presidents with equally good Congress to unfuck the nation.
I'm thinking Trump if it comes down to him and Shillery. Mostly for shits and giggles
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>>685858356
I heard he was going to make America great again or some shit... sounded legit I guess
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>>685866831
I'm talking to a moron with 0 reading comprehension.

Thanks for playing, faggot. I'm sure once you reach high school, things will get better.

by the way "LALALALA YER DUMB LOL" is never going to be the victor's stance.
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>>685865979

Israel has been killing Palestinians indiscriminately whenever they got the chance. They have been slowly taking over the land that once belonged to Palestine.

That being said, I fucking hate Palestine as well. A bunch of monkeys throwing shit over the wall at Israel and then crying when they get bombed into the stone age.
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>>685867185
If only they'd show up to the negotiating table.

Oh wait, there isn't one. Because Bibis a dick.
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>>685858356
because we are pretty much fucked either way
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>>685867445
sincerely, every presidential election ever.
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>>685867185
the land belonged to the jews before the palestines and belong to others before them and so on
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>>685867097
Damn the Bernie shit with BLM was the reason I left the bern camp and inevitably the democrat party all together. I wasn't really paying attention to anything until then. I was all Bernie bc funded by unions and not banks. I had no idea who he was. Then that shit happened. He fucking bowed out to two fat angry racist niggers and I straight up said "well fuck that guy". I've hated Hillary since before she was a thing. I'll be voting trump regardless of who else gets the other nom. True democrats went republican a long time ago.
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>>685867652
>true democrats went republican a long time ago

go on..
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>>685864189
I'm also a chef at Wendy's
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>>685867185
This is my problem, right fucking here. "This land used to belong to these guys a while back but now it belongs to these guys, ILL KILL YOU OVER IT". --the entire conflict in a nutshell--
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>>685867652
>hurr durr bernie let niggers take over his rally

faggot
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>>685867185
yeah well you wouldn't think that if you were trying to get your country back
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>>685861309
Trump seriously has the fuckin sexiest female supporters, it's ridiculous. News says women hate him, it seems like the fat ugly angry women hate him. The sexy ass beautiful young women love him
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>>685868069
money can buy "supporters" who look like anything
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>>685867652
Good call anon! Well said
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>>685860435
People who claim her email cover-up is unimportant can only be shills or completely ignorant of the matter
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Trump is fucking retarded
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>>685868174
prove it's a "cover-up"
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Just saying whenever a president takes office the economic status of the country always changes. It's not that big of a deal if Trump turns out bad. Will be in for four years and will be out.
>inb4 ww3
There is no way anyone would want to fuck with Trump knowing our military prowress
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>>685868149
then why is hillary buying all the ugos
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>>685868179
faggot you're gonna get dogpiled over that one
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>>685868149
CAN IT HIPPY
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>>685868179
"What's a supply gut?"
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>>685868174
if she had just said at the beginning "yeah I fucked up" it would have blown over and be done with but she didn't she lied and fought and did everything she could to make it go away that's the problem
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>>685868316

Ugo’s is a modern Italian diner where the menu changes to accommodate the freshest local ingredients available. The chef’s interpretations of traditional Italian dishes are prepared in a warm neighborhood environment. Chef Hasson only uses the highest quality ingredients, and utilizes local resources to create his menu.

This is a bad thing?
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>>685868365
triggered hard
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>>685868425
well if she admitted she would've gone to jail
Now that she lied and is denying she won't go to jail for a while.
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>>685858356
to unironically make america great again
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>>685868543
How did Clinton "lie" exactly?
Do you have a link of the transcript?
and was she charged with perjury?
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>>685867778
Well you used to be able to be fiscally conservative, believe in the constitution, and individual rights, and still want to legalize and fund abortion rights, legalize marijuana, fund scientific research and not be a religious nutjob. Now the democrat party is the party of the crazy. The bizarre. The party of taking away ones rights so that another can fail less thanks to govt assistance. True dems didn't want free college. True dems didn't want to over tax anyone. Or give anyone that doesn't deserve it a free ride. They believed in the America where no matter the color of your skin or the status you were born into that you could do great things and become whatever you want. That's not what the democrat party believes now. That's why the ones who did believe in that America vote republican now. Because even though most republicans are religious whackerdoodles, at least they don't want to tear apart the constitution and destroy the America that gives a chance to anyone willing to work hard for it.
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>>685868365
I would take a Nixon presidency over a Trump presidency.
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>>685868449
yes because she is not sharing the new menus with anyone but her closest supporters
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>>685867816
Again?!? I made the four way post. It was my best post.
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>>685868650
>conservative
>funding abortion rights

pick one
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>>685868743
no that's just my standard reply from now on
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>>685868647
They asked her in front of a panel of judges if she was responsible for the stuff and she said no.
Lying in court is a federal crime.
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>>685868676
I want the transcripts of those menus deciphered and I want them now
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>>685868777
I don't think you understand the difference between religious conservative and fiscal conservative.
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>>685867404

It's not in Israel's interest to have a Palestine state - they have Palestinians cucked living in dirt and Mossad seems to be doing a great job at keeping any potential terrorist outside Israel's territory.

>>685867890

It was the sandniggers that chimped out over Jews coming to live in the ME. Same sandniggers got BTFO'd many times in the wars that they tried to wage against Israel. Now, together with the US, Israel has most of ME cucked beyond belief. I wouldn't give two shits about Israel and US fucking over ME, but now us Europeans have to deal with shitskins coming over as """refugees""" into Europe for free welfare.

We already have a problem with home-bred Jihadists, having more of these degenerates flood Europe only makes things worse.
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>>685868939
name even one conservative since Roe V Wade that is pro-choice

come on I dare you
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>>685868279
>no big deal
>Trump will be out in 4 years
Bush fucked the country pretty bad in 2. And then he got re-elected. :^)
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>>685869041
Some intermediate conservatives are, abortion really comes down to personal preference.
I for one wouldn't support it but if I got a bitch pregnant hell yea I would push that bitch down the stairs so fast she wouldn't even get the chance to tell me her stance.
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>>685868852
so I'm sure you can post a link where it's confirmed Clinton was charged with a federal crime for "lying"

I'll wait
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>>685869041
You're missing the point friendo. There used to be plenty of "fiscally" conservative democrats back in the day. Then the party went south(or should I say extreme left) and they were like "well fuck this shit". If you don't realize the difference between a fiscal conservative and a religious conservative then I can't help you. Like, at all.
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>>685869308
Well obviously he didn't fuck it up that bad if he got re-elected.
Are any of you old enough to actually remember Bush?
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>>685868661
This. People will hate on Nixon because of Watergate, but overall, he was decent. We do need someone who has great foreign relationships like Nixon.
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>>685869356
yeah but my point is the Republicans were never really even lukewarm to the idea of abortion
not sure where you're getting that
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He ain't a fucking pushover, and no liberal sellout like Bernie or Hillary
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>>685869024
How many people feel that way about refugees? Like can it be considered a minority opinion or does everyone universally agree?
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>>685869452
Well that's what they're figuring out now. If they had proof she would be in jail.
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>>685869565
Nobody mentioned republicans retard
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>>685868661
You're a good American
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>>685869507
Bush isn't nearly as hated as much as Trump is. Whoever wins the election, I think, will only have one term.
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>>685869458
a conservative is a conservative

and call Dems what you will, they leave abortion alone
it's the Republicans who keep acting like it's the Demon from Hell and threaten to make it illegal again
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>>685869507
I remember Clinton, motherfucker. Before he fucked up, and I remember the speech he gave when he DID fuck up.

>i did not have...sexual relations...with..that woman..
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>>685869565
I've always figured conservatives were "meh" about abortion, some militant and some don't care. its only Liberals that are all about the choice.
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>>685869041
Barbara Bush
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Keep war ongoing with islam
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>>685862787
Clearly your a sand nigger mudslime
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>>685869507
I don't think you're getting my point anon
Bush fucked up this country and then the populace were so stupid they did it again

that's what a stupid President does--enough damage that we're still paying for it a decade later

come on faggot do not turn this into a Bush apology circlejerk
you're all alone in this one
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>>685869789
No. There are definitively two(at least) types of conservatives. And you are really making yourself look retarded for not knowing that.
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>>685868650
I see. They call that "libertarian" now.
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>>685869661
>if they had proof

so do you always presume guilt until proven innocent?

that really isn't American, you know
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The man seems like he knows what to do.
He's even had interviews 30 years ago that hinted that he might run for president.
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>>685869868
The ones that don't care used to be real democrats before being a democrat meant letting go of reality.
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>>685869788
The thing is Trump has been in the public eye for years and years and just now he is being seen as some racist freak. It doesn't add up.
Bush wasn't hated until about when we couldn't find the WMD's and then people still generally liked him.
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>>685869690
yeah who are the "conservatives" you're talking about here?

Lyndon LaRouche refugees?

They're Republicans.
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left-or-right?

left vote for Trump!

right vote for Berny

choose your destination
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>>685870124
Yes. And usually vote republican as they also have jobs.
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>>685870135
Well there's a thin line between knowing something and having proof. Schrodinger's cat theory proves this.
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>>685869868
I'd like to think so
the trouble is there are way too many anti-abortion nuts in Congress already and they're not (D)s
conservatives are voting for the nuts
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>>685869308
>>685869507
Every president gets re-elected for their second term, anons. It might as well be a statistical fact for how often it happens. The hard part is getting your foot in the door.
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>>685870298
Id rather fuck the one on the right, but I'm not for Bernie
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>>685869902
yeah real effective at getting Republicans to stop cutting abortion funding
and did she use her position to speak out against the nut who shot abortion doctors?
I can't say I heard she did.
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>>685870317
Hippies in the 60s advocated for free education, anon. That's your source material? A decade you weren't around to live through?
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>>685870043
You need to see that if a general public voted someone back into office that it proves that at least 50% of the population agreed with him on some level. You literally cannot hate someone and vote for them.
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>>685870204
Well abortion isn't the defining factor of being a conservative.
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>>685870075
The bottom line is the same: I got mine, I don't need to help anyone but myself, but I'll complain when society needs to correct that with things like taxes and labor rights.
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>>685870215
I think that there's been a huge buildup to Republican and Democrat hate from each side and now we are seeing the start of an explosion. When Bush was elected, most people considered him an idiot, who didn't know what he was doing. Same exact thing happened when Obama was elected. Now, we're seeing both sides becoming "fed up" with each opposing candidate. Plus, I don't remember Bush saying anything as controversial as Trump. While the left may not like his actions; in politics, words are always louder than actions.
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>>685870395
so you automatically think Clinton is guilty even though you have no real evidence?

k
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>>685870654
Fuck are you even talking about? Did you reply to the right thing? Hippies don't have jobs!
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>>685870592
You ask a question, you get an answer. Barbara is pro-choice.
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>>685870658
not really
Bush only won because Kerry was a weak candidate
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>>685870658
Or they were just de-sensitized and couldn't be bothered to vote for someone else all over again. Thats usually how that works. Guy gets in, people get used to his agenda, and he gets re-elected because its the status quo.
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>>685870953
well that's a really shitty answer

she's a figurehead and I doubt she got flipped any shit for it
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>>685870863
I'm not the only one that believes so. It wouldn't be a big deal if people didn't think she was guilty.
And it's not my job to prove her guilty, we should leave that to the courts.
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>>685870773
No but a fiscal conservative would see the benefit of not restricting abortion rights and not let feefees(religious or otherwise) cloud their judgement. That whole "fiscal" part seems to be really confusing people tonight
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>>685870800
Wait... What are you? I've been arguing with you but it seems we share core values.
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>>685871078
No I agree that there is a difference between fiscal and religious conservatives
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>>685871076
I don't even like Clinton but when I hear anons say she's a felon or liar they never have any concrete evidence of this. Who's worse here? Her or them?
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Tricky Dick would be a better president.
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>>685871254
I know. I was just making a statement. We good fam
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>>685871191
if you were the anon who said there were two types of conservatives, I'm saying it doesn't matter

even the nicest most compassionate conservatives still believes some pretty cringing outdated shit
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>>685870800
>I don't need to help anyone but myself

Thats the logic that got us into these armed conflicts in the first place, anon. You can't have blinders on when it comes to human suffering, especially if you're the country who's currently causing it for OTHER countries that are run by better people than you are.
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>>685870981
>>685870989
Both of you are ignoring the fundimental parts of a democracy
>guy runs for president
>51% of people like him he gets elected
>guy runs again
>51% of people like him
>gets elected a second time
There is no brainwashing involved.
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>>685871263
Not him but money talks. If it were anyone else like a regular Joe? The trial would already be over and that person would be in prison
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>>685871398
I like you fam
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>>685871508
just telling you why Bush won
everyone hated his ass
but Kerry couldn't carry the weight
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>>685871522
for what?
seriously what crimes were committed?
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>>685871405
I am him. One question. Who are you voting for?
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>>685862777
>777
Kek supports Dukakis
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>>685871508
>fundamental

and there's no science to this. people elect a president on his platform, and that platform doesn't magically change in 4 years. the same people who voted him in are the same people voting to keep him in because they agreed in the first place. if they change their minds, they rarely have a better option present itself BECAUSE no one runs against a second term president. they know they'll lose because they always do. because we're lazy shits.
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>>685871462
Not him but human life is NOT precious.
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>>685871628
I don't understand why people say he was universally hated if at least 51% of the country voted for him.
Are we that damaged we vote for people we hate?
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Two types of fucking faggots vote for trump
1 the ones who legitimately believe he will do good for America or the world.
>inb4 "hure durr better than shillerary or communist sanders"
2 fucking dumbshits who stopped giving a fuck about anything and just wants the world to burn
Inb4 "doesn't matter or we're fucked anyway"
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>>685871745
>Dukakis
Would have been a good President

Bush fucked him over in political ads, basically
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>>685871795
tell that to republicans then, because this abortion shit is getting real fucking old.
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>>685871844
the thing is you're just going by the numbers which makes it look like a cut and dried case

it wasn't
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>>685871701
Whatever she was there for in the first place. Idgaf about Clinton or what she did but I do know that if you get dragged in front of congress there is definitely a reason.
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>>685871844
we vote for the guy who's already had the job for the last 4 years of our lives. theres no point to show up to a poll if you just want to keep shit the way it is right now. if you do show up, you'll just vote for the path of least resistance.
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>>685871782
There may be a statistical advantage but it's still only statistical. It could still happen.
If I said OP has a 59% chance of being a faggot could I still be wrong?
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>>685861309
99% of hot girls are fucking retards anon
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>Shitposter supreme
>Has almost total control of the media and makes them his bitch
>Kicks out spics
>Doesn't bow down to that feminist wage gap baiting shit
>Kicks out muslims and keeps them out
>Made billions
>Healthy as fuck
>Smug as fuck
>Tax cuts for the poor
>Nationalist
The closest thing to a bad thing about Trump is that he's not anti-tranny or anti-gay.
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>>685859760
>caught in that Benghazai thing

you mean the web of lies and misdirections woven by dishonest conservatives?
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>>685858356
Because Americans are sick of taking care of the rest of the world. We have our own fucking problems, lets solve our own shit, get out of debt and then we can play rulers of the world again. Unless it's an immediate threat I say fuck off and you know what, that message resonates with a lot of people.
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>>685871968
Well what other thing do we have to base our facts off of?
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>>685871985
I don't care
you have no proof Clinton committed any crimes. This is on you, not them. Don't make the argument if you can't back it up
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>>685872247
Um, I just gave EXAMPLES

faggot? XDXD
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>>685871922
I am the guy you replied to and a republican who thinks this exactly. I just wish they would figure out that if they would just quit with the religious shit they'd win like every time. That's what's wrong with the gop.
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>>685872374
>"everyone hated his ass"
good sourcing faggot
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>>685871844
51% of the country did NOT vote for him. Not even 51% of Republicans (who are about 25% of all voters; the rest are Democrat, independent or other) voted for him. He won with about 40% of the GOP, but all the others got less.
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>>685872564
>2016
>still kissing Bush's ass

kek
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>>685872564
XDXDXDXD
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>>685872082
Yeah you could. Because even if over half of a population voted to keep a turd in office, it wouldnt change the fact that the guy is still a turd. Just the lesser of two evils that we threw our hands up at and said fine, fuck it. run our country for us. it sums up every election since the 70s.
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because he's gonna make murrica grate agen
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>>685872647
I never said he was a good president, I just said it is statistically impossible for everyone to hate him if he got re elected.
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>>685872758
Trump is going to make a fortune selling cheese
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>>685872848
It's statistically impossible for you not to be a faggot
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>>685872430
Dear every anon who ever brought up "separation of church and state".

Seriously, that doesn't exist in the US. It was never guaranteed by our constitution, and the majority of our laws are still based off religious principles anyways. i agree though, this religion shit needs to stop. its what holds humanity back from progress, worrying about who rules what or who told who to kill who's son centuries ago. Who gives a fuck? we're on a rotating rock in space, guys. get some fucking perspective.
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>>685858356
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>>685873113
>. It was never guaranteed by our constitution,

what is the 1st Amendment
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>>685872721
I couldn't even follow that. I bet you voted for Bernie.
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>>685860808
>Disregarding the fact that that 1% controls ~40% of the nation's wealth
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>>685873235
Have you actually ever read the constitution?
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>>685872848
"hate" is a strong word. if you weren't around to see it, theres more context to that election than just "bush v kerry". the state of the countrys perception on politics was completely different. we were still doing good from the clinton years, and his campaign was REALLY good at selling the whole "son of a good president must mean hell be a good pres too" thing.

its easy to say you hate him in retrospect, but so many things were discovered AFTER the fact that you cant blame anyone for their actions DURING. it was a reactionary time.
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>>685873349
That's actually pretty common historically. Don't see why it's such a big issue.
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>>685873361
no I totally pulled the 1st Amendment out of my ass

our government cannot interfere with religion
stop being a faggot
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>>685873235
Have you even read the first amendment?
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>>685873120
>#NeverTrump are literally cucks
You could not make this up.
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>>685873468
That's sort of what I'm trying to say. It's easy to hate in retrospect.
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>>685873507
so you want this society to be in a holding pattern that resembles feudalism more than the 21st century?

k
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>>685873611
are you being a faggot on purpose
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>>685858356
Because they really do think we are all that stupid
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>>685873551
Well if you have ever actually taken a constitutional law class you would know that unless it explicitly says something, it cannot be in the Constitution.
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>>685858356
Fuck donald trump ..i.,

https://youtu.be/WkZ5e94QnWk?t=83
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>>685858356
For shits n giggles.
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>>685873742
Well the alternative is Communism so there really is no better way.
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>>685873113
Him. Yes. And no. It doesn't exist here. But it was meant to. And while yes our laws are based on biblical principals, they're mostly just shit to keep people from being shitty to each other. And the stuff that's just archaic bullshit? Like abortion and gay laws keeping society from being equal? Yeah that's gotta go... to a point. Sure. Gays need rights. Trannies need rights. A 6'10" guy with a giant cock hanging out the bottom of his hello kitty skirt doesn't need legal access to the little girls room. And that's where common sense should take over but liberals don't seem to think that person is any different from little Susie the Girl Scout
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>>685858356
Because I want to see Bernie's cult followers totally lose their shit and riot before they commit mass suicide.
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>>685858356
A vote for trump is a vote to make America pure again.
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>>685873902
I found the spic.
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>>685873349
>implying there is anything wrong with this
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>>685873892
why are you spouting Teatard propaganda?
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>>685873349
You're still taxing a minority to pay for the majority. It won't work, no matter how many ways you twist the verbiage. I'm around $15K in medical debt, and that's just from a single patient with a single condition. Now imagine someone with cerebral palsy, or a vegetative patient, or anybody who has more than one condition. $15K is an annual salary for some people guys. One years worth, on one individual. Now multiply $15K times the population of this country, and you can see where the logic falls apart. Those machines cost a ton of money, pharmaceuticals cost (and generate) a ton of money. Free healthcare is not an overnight goal.
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>>685873979
faggot you're all over the place
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>>685873979
>black or white, there is no gray

This is the type of thinking a 2 party system leads to.
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>>685874107
diamonds
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>>685873551
That's not what separation of church and state means in the context that the grownups are talking about
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>>685859760
No the emails are possibly related to other nations giving the Clinton Foundation money in exchange for trade deals and support from the US Gov. while she was Sect. of State.
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>>685874173
Because I have more than a highschool level education about the government.
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>>685874324
sure gramps
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>>685874110
lol your mom and sister would of a spic and you mad as fuck about it lol. Stay salty you little dick white bitch. I hope a spic stabs you in the throat.
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>>685874110
fucked*
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>>685874462
>would of a spic
Top kek. The spic can't speak English. What a shocker.

My country is white though, hate to break it to you, Jose.
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>>685874242
>>685874291
Well both of you come up with a middle ground that supports both business development and social services.
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>>685874427
and that's why you're making dumbass Teatard arguments about church and state?

k
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>>685874587
What does that even mean? My country is white though, hate to break it to you, Jose.? you need to learn how to sentence you in bread.
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>>685873826
I'm asking you the same thing, retard.

>Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Know what it doesn't say? "You should keep religion out of politics though." It doesn't even IMPLY it let alone outright state it.
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>>685858356

Because Hillary is even worse, she's corrupt as fuck and she and her party cronies rigged the primary to screw Bernie.
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>>685858356
Hillary is way too fucking shady and others are simply inane(and lost already). In politics, you should be the top dog. Even if you're right nothing good will come of it if people don't take you seriously.
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>>685874669
No I just like to know how my government operates before I go shitposting like you.
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>>685874605
I would rather see my society evolve
bump wages up to $15 an hour like Seattle

bump up tax brackets or eliminate loopholes
the US already has a low tax rate compared to other countries

that's a start
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>>685874795
>The spic can't even read English
>He is genuinely dumbfounded at proper English
I'm losing it, Paco. I cannot stop laughing at you.

>in bread
>IN
>FUCKING
>BREAD
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>>685874821
no but who cares?
that's the Separation Clause where government lets religion alone
why the fuck are you even arguing this
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>>685874968
We have low tax brackets because we value our middle class. Other countries do not. There still is a prominent 1% in those countries but the lower class is much larger and more exploited.
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>>685875235
no thanks, I don't like hillary
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>>685873656
Right but at the time, people still had freedom of choice. Kerrys option was global warming and all these democratic ideas that were just kind of hot button issues at the time. Fads, if you will. No one actually took them seriously, but no one thought that Bush Jr was going to be a good President either. Again, it was a shiniest of two turds scenario. 59% of a population voting for the lesser of two evils just means that at least 59% of the population was just like "uhhh well fine ok fuck it bush then".

then 9/11 happened and it became this whole fucking thing.
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>>685874605
>social services

wouldn't even have a need to exist if the private sector paid living wages
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>>685875369
This
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>>685858356
Literally
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v7XXSt9XRM
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Doesn't matter who the president is. Corporations control everything. I'm not a conspiracy nut, just a realist.
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>>685873742
>so you want this society to be in a holding pattern that resembles feudalism more than the 21st century?
>feudalism more than the 21st century
>fedualism has over 3,000 years of history
>we are only 16 years into the 21st century
>the 21st century has more examples, in terms of quantity and quality, of feudalism being a ideal system than socialism

You are incredibly fortunate you are on /b/. A post like this on >>>/his/ or even >>>/pol/ would be bannable from the sheer retardation of it.
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>>685874968
Economically speaking 15/hr wages would literally kill our middle class. Cooperations wouldn't be able to employ people at those wages.
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>>685875383
Lol Hillary isn't the nazi, hint: the nazi I'd Donald Trump
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>>685875369
and we should also legalize marijuana and use it to solely pay off the national debt

guess which candidate would have supported that idea?

no not fucking Trump
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>>685875724
>the spic still can't speak English
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>>685875724
Hillary IS the Nazi
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>>685875443
There are plenty of "living wages" jobs. If you make minimum wage you're either finding a better job or you have made some pretty shitty choices in life and have only yourself to blame for making so little.
>Inb4 everyone deserves a living wage

No. No they don't.
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>>685875120
I can tell you get zero girls. NON, your humor is so shitty and not even close to being funny. You're the person at the party everyone wants gone and everyone is asking who the fuck invited you. Your dick is tiny and no one better to follow than a leader with a tiny dick, you and trump have something little in common. I bet you hate colors because you saw the dicks hanging low and your mom fucked one of them ;) girls laughing at you when you pull your pants down

>lol
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>>685875724
Please fucking kill yourself you beta cuck. Did you even ask your wife's boyfriend if you could be on the internet?
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>>685875873
DUDE
WEED
LMAO
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>>685875443
*hint*
The reason the private sector works is because they don't have to care about drug addicts.
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>>685875698
I'm not seeing where you're getting that. Corporations earn shit-tons of money.
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>>685873983
>that anon

I don't even think I get the hang up about the trans bathroom shit either. Legal access for what everyone assumes will be a sexual predator? if hes willing to fuck little girls, a sign with a skirt on it isn't going to stop him from entering the wrong bathroom to do it.
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Pokies?
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>>685858356
Trump is against the pussification of America.
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>>685875725
you 1st. ;)
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>>685875907
speak fucking English, spic
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>>685875907
>UR A VIRGIN
>TINY DICK
>All this dreadful English
Again Paco, my country is white. We don't have niggers or spics or muslims here. Feels good.

>spics
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>>685875873
Yes totally because legalizing a drug that incapacitates people is our lord and savior. How come other countries that have it legalized still have debt?
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>>685875902
bullshit
you're just making excuses for opportunists who want to get away with paying someone as little as possible

shit changes
it's not fucking 1914 anymore
this is not The Jungle
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>>685875676
Not him but to elaborate... In nearly any other society, being here and saying these things would warrant a visit from the boots or maybe even a trip to the gulag for dissent. We have these freedoms because we have freedom. Both Bernie and Hillary want to take that freedom away
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>>685876241
IT'S THE CURRENT YEAR
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>>685875724
Actually, Hillary is the Nazi with an army of corporate brown shirts to do her bidding.

Trump is far more like Mussolini if we are comparing people to WWII figures.
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>>685876195
you must have grown up in a pretty strict background to be that anti-weed bro js
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>>685876021
They earn a great portion in the form of tax cuts that entice them to stay in certain areas allowing Americans to hold jobs. Forcing the corperations to pay more would tip the scale so that it would be more profitable to either outsource or leave the market.
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>>685874795
why are trump supporters so happy and beautiful?
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>>685874669
There are two people responding to your autism, anon. Two individuals ITT think you have no grasp of the American constitution and have no idea what the phrase "separation of church and state" even means.
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>>685876355
you still get a chubby talking about both faggot
don't lie
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>>685876066
No, but a sign saying "Come on in" is certainly going to encourage those who otherwise would've been too pussy to do it.
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>>685876465
bullshit
I can make up stuff too
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>>685876171
You need to learn how to read little dick. Go back to europe.
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>>685876481
I don't even know why it got brought up and I'm sorry I replied
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>>685875873
As a fiscal conservative who is voting for trump, I wish weed would just get legalized and regulated already. It's the only thing Bernie had going for him
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>>685876021
Not the anon you replied to, but about 95% of businesses out there aren't corporations. A $15 an hour minimum wage could damage a lot of those small businesses, and it could possible discourage start up companies from succeeding.
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>>685876413
Nah dude I've just seen a lot more people not go to college because of weed than because of financial reasons.
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Pokie pokie
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>>685876713
coulda woulda shoulda

I live in Seattle and shit is booming
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>>685876178
You need to learn how to read dumb ass in bread. I know you're missing a chromosome but try hard to understand. poor little brain little dick in breads.
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>>685875120
>I'm losing it, Paco.
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>>685876583
If you don't believe me take an economics class. It's pretty interesting stuff. What part don't you believe, I could elaborate more.
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