How deep in debt are you for your education? What's your
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Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
How deep in debt are you for your education?
What's your occupation? Was it worth it?
Pic related. My mail.
sorry op
>>685211310
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Learned a trade.
No debts.
Probably going to make 50-70k a year depending on how much I feel like working or pursuing other tickets.
Might not seem like much, but having absolutely no debts whatsoever makes up for it entirely.
Not about how much you make, but what you do with it.
>>685211414
Edgy
>>685211310
Thats what you get for maxing out your loans every year, dipshit.
>>685211758
What trade? And how many years of getting shit pay as an apprentice?
>>685211310
None, G.I. Bill. Still work for the Government. Yes, yes it was.
>>685211310
I felt bad about not getting a degree for years. Now I have 260,000 in savings and am making 44,000 a year.
Am I making much a year? Nah. But I still feel like in a good position especially since I can get more promotions.
>went to college
>graduated in like 5-6 years
>Couldnt find a job
>Well, didnt really try to find a job
>Go construction
>Wtf is prevailing wage/public works
>Earn $72/hour on weekends
>I do work that an illegal can do
>work only 25 hours a week
>It's great.
>but I spend 75% of my paycheck on Thailand vacations, banged over 500 bar girls in 5 years.
>>685211914
Machinist, 3 year program making 14-19 an hour and full rate upon grad
school and tools were all free.
didn't pay a dime for shit. just started making decent money right out of HS. The downside is obviously, working full time while your buddies are all partying and having the time of their lives at schools.
Thinking about going back and getting a millwright ticket, or even saving up and paying outright for University in Mechanical Engineering since the trade and the degree would go hand-in-hand and look great on my resume.
>>685211914
Better to get shit pay for years than to rack up debt.
>>685212360
Bullshit. There's no machinist program readily available unless your daddy or some other family member got it for you.
>>685211310
LOL Gi Bill, Fed Tuition Assistance (TA) (from National Guard), State TA From (National Guard), and Hazelwood. I don't think I will ever see school debt.
>>685211310
> study
> scholarship.jpg
> $0 debt
> $105k @24
Feels good man
>>685212816
how's it feel knowing taxpayers funding your whole fukking life your pawn to society?
>>685211310
The personal investment is the only thing that matters. There will always be money to made, and long after your body has quit you can still use your mind productively. I am 26k in the hole halfway done with undergrad. I figure by the time I am 50 I need to be balls deep in a Ph.D. program. At the moment I am 40. Doors of opportunity are my goal.
>>685212659
I will admit, part of it was luck. Not daddy or connections, just luck of the draw; right place at the right time.
But trades are absolutely killing for skilled talent right now.
The nu-male faggot generation looks down upon trades; they're viewed as not glamorous, dirty and decent at best pay.
If you have a decent head on your shoulders and know a friend or two in the trades, chances are you'll find something.
Canada btw, if that helps.
>>685213006
great? I paid my debt to society by serving the government. how does it feel that you will not see free college because bernie is losing?
>>685213006
btw, i also work as a database admin, so you know what they say:
money money money mone-e-ey MONEY!
>>685213154
I worked $11/hour, commuted, in-state school, like a responsible human being, never been in #1 debt in my life thus far. Not one of those liberal phaggots. #trump
This guy gets its
>>685213400
$1 not #1*
>>685213034
Trades are shitty jobs that doesn't deserve salaries above the average.
I'm glad my country imports shitskins and pays them dirt to take care of it.
>>685213400
you should probably aim higher then? I started off as a tech support rep getting paid 17$/hour and getting raises to 22$/hour til i left the company for a better job.
I'll help you out nigga, the company was called Bigcommerce.
>>685212354
>he stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
>Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
>>685213499
>Trades are shitty jobs that doesn't deserve salaries above the average.
Entirely depends on the trade and the actual workplace.
For example, machinist. You could either:
>A) push a green button on a CNC lathe and maybe change 1 or 2 numbers all day and call yourself a "machinist"
or
>B) What I do. Make prototype, one off parts on both CNC and Manual machines, as well as by hand, know a thing or two about skills outside the trade to help with jobs, do one-off, custom parts for automotive, defense, nuclear, medical and aerospace industries to name a few. Not to mention programming and computer knowledge is a must.
The numbers are so skewed because A) is where most people as well as "imported shitskins" end up. They don't get paid well and don't deserve to, but still hold the title of a Machinist.
Whereas the 12 people total in my shop who make 30+ an hour don't do much to help the average or median, but it's highly skilled work and something that can never be outsourced.
It's like that with almost every trade, that's just an example for being a Machinist.
>>685211310
Was able to pay for my studies with home office job. Was like 450 euros per month.
Now I work from my mommies home. Doing some seo/sem bullshit and making webshops for small companies. Mommie thinks I'm unemployed. Got 225k € saved so far. Will suprise her one day when I buy the house.
>>685213499
Good luck when a shitskin plumbs your natural gas wrong and your house blows up, or wires your electrical wrong and burns your house down, or doesn't vent your plumbing properly and your house fills with sewer gases.
Trades /= construction general labourer.
>>685214336
I agree with what you are saying, but you still have competition. Not necessarily outsourcing the job, but you do compete with Home Depots illegal immigrant department. I don't mean specific as a machinist, but in general all other trade jobs.
>>685214058
you dumb fuk, public works is $72/h BY LAW on weekends, look it up.. Doesnt matter what you do, if its public works its public works. Google it. CA.
I just got hired at a new job but I kind of hate it. It's customer support for blenders, so I don't really give a shit about it. I also got accepted into grad school around the same time to get my doctorate in Psychology, but it's unfunded, would take about 5 years, and I'd go $100,000 into debt.
I'm thinking about becoming a counselor now and going back and working part-time at my old job since they're hurting for employees.
>>685211310
inb4 bernieorbust
>>685213400
>phaggots
>#trump
kys faggot
>>685212816
this. feelsgoodman
4k, tuition is 9k a year and i hate my fucking life, but ~50k-75k just to be able to party isnt gonna fly
>>685214837
> but you do compete with Home Depots illegal immigrant department. I don't mean specific as a machinist, but in general all other trade jobs.
It's the same in all other trade jobs. The ones who are highly skilled (but few and far between) will never be replaced and never really have other competition, other than other highly skilled people.
Imported shitskins will never, ever put a dent into actual SKILLED tradespeople.
It's the people who call themselves a "tradesmen", when in reality all they so is push a button at a factory, change tires at a mechanic shop, etc. They're the ones you're probably talking about and I agree with you. But that's unskilled work.
>>685215222
how's it feeling contributing literally nothing to society and just being a leech off other peoples money?
>>685211310
Medical students pay for their own graduate education?
I'm a PhD student for theoretical physics and it's free. They even give me a salary.
40K of debt for a 4 year degree
My starting pay is only $20/hr but I chose my current employer because they do loan forgiveness and if I work for them for 3 years they'll forgive half my loans. Which is still shitty. I'm retarded I know
$0 in debt, worked through school and kept scholarships up
Chemical Engineer from best public engineering school within 1000 miles
Definitely worth it, though school sucked hard
Currently making $90k in a low cost of living area
Gonna retire in my 50s, depending on the market.
>>685213006
Yeah and all these faggots who claim to be 23 with a 100k salary were born and their da das payed for their degrees. Lives devoid of achievement or character.
>>685211310
Debt ? None at all and still a world class education. That's master race Denmark for you
OP.... Do you have a job in medical field? If so stfu.... You're going to make shit loads of money...
>>685215687
If you're smart with your money that doesn't sound bad whatsoever
$0
Senior Cloud Engineer (AWS/GCP/VMWARE). Education provided by Barnes & Noble.
>>685211414
Holy fuck are you cancerously stupid.
>>685211310
I'm french, universities are free
30k without interest
>>685211310
Another Portlandfag.
*highfive*
>>685216185
Nigger detected
>>685216076
Are certs really enough to get you far?
>>685212986
You sound like you have no friends.
Faggot.
>>685215972
I'll have to deal with a lot of bullshit since I'll be working in the gang territory surrounded by 99% AAs. Which is why they have the loan forgiveness to draw young idiots like me in
>>685216295
High five return! Sad that I got to leave for residency :(
>>685211414
Fuck off faggot.
>>685211310
15k so far, physics undergrad, got 1 more year to go and not going to grad school
luckily I had a lot of scholarships for first few years but either ran out or lost them over time
Just make sure you return after the big one strikes. Especially, if you're in sw portland on a hill
>>685215615
Yep. They figure our salary is high enough in the future to justify charging the fuck out of us for education
>>685216363
My brother got his welding certificate at the career center in high school and he was making $80K on the oil rigs in Texas because of danger pay until he decided to join the Army and let them pay for everything.
Now he's getting paid to sit on a beach in Hawaii when he's not working on trucks. Army Mechanic would recommend
None. I make about 60k a year selling car insurance. My employer paid for all the licensing crap.
>>685216495 sorry,
>>685216761 was for you.
I had about 8.5k debt for 4 years of college. Went to a community college then transfered into a good engineering school. Just graduated and already making 29.75 an hour. Should be able to pay off that 8.5k. Won't say who I work for but its software engineering. Totally worth it.
>>685216363
0 certificates, honestly, no one fucking cares about them.
All hands on experience. $90/hr at an insanely flex job. I was making more in the valley, but chose to move to Florida for quality of life. Everything is dirt cheap and money goes so much further. Only downside is if I get fired, finding a new job will be near impossible without relocating.
On the flip side, I also have a background in Engineering. Knowing both operations and engineering concepts goes a lot further in the cloud vs. having very one sided knowledge. Telling an engineer why AND how goes a lot further.
>80k a year for medical school
you're retarded
>get full ride to wealthy private school for k-12
>get full ride to exclusive private university
>get almost full ride to medical school
bout to start medical school and should finish without ever having a loan
>not even a richfag
>>685217177
checked
~25k in debt
I work retail for minimum wage
Not worth it
>>685211914
And that's a real problem. Doesnt matter how good you are, just how many hours. Fucking lame.
>>685213006
Feels good man, the VA pays tuition, books, and rent. Stop being a piss baby.
>>685211310
that is less than what a new farm combine costs
we pay them off in 3 tears typically
>>685215348
what do you mean? Do you mean me, for serving in my nation's Army?
Dude, I go to school, working on my master's full time, and i work full time. The Army has taught me to be product not some lazy bum waiting for a handout.
Also guess what? on top of all the school benefits (which is the MAIN reason I join, I didn't want any debt or my parents paying for my shit) I also get disability, so extra money coming in from the VA. I'm rolling in it faggot
>>685217449
Nice bro. Good for you. I wish I was in your shoes today
>>685217449
tfw asian
>be me
>be father of two girls
>be responsible
>1st one in PhD program, debt-free
>2nd one in Masters program, debt-free
>mfw responsible Dad
tl;dr: Don't spawn them if you aren't will to educate them.
>>685217741
i figure i could pay it off in 3 if I lived in the cheap. What do you farm? Dank memes?
>>685217855
My brother is also in the Army and his only bills are phone and internet. The gov pays for everything. He blows his paychecks on whatever he wants. Everything is covered, medical, housing, food, transport
>>685218037
but I'm white
>>685217687
are you using the vocational rehabilitation and education?
>>685212360
I joined as an electrical apprentice straight after high school, making 19 an hr while i study for my journeyman test
Laborous at times but worth every minute because i have zero debt and a skill no one can take away
>Cheers tradebro!
>>685212027
same here
>>685218172
I am no longer in active duty, but I do miss having the medical insurance. Pay almost nothing for surgeries and shit. Now I have to pay for medical insurance just to avoid the tax man.
>>685218072
You sound like a cuck, so I bet you're not even their real father.
>>685215888
>denmark
>masterrace
top kek
>>685218470
Dad not love you? sorry man.
>>685211310
I hope you like medical work. You'll have to do a lot of it to pay off all that.
>>685218177
I have a picture for that too
>>685211414
Why? What's wrong with using apple?
>>685211310
Right now? +$1500, give or take.... But then, I was a bit irresponsible with my GI bill payments this last school year.... Next year, I should be able to put a lot more away...
I earned my free college in Afghanistan, and it's even easier than that!! But, of course, Liberal shit-stains can't be bothered to even be the POGiest piece of shit burger-flipper or tent-builder or any other menial bullshit military job that doesn't leave the US because that would mean putting in some sort of effort, even if it's very little effort.....
Seriously, military service is fucking awesome!! If you don't want to be a goddamned American hero like me and my Infantry brethren, you can still be a piece of shit POG and get your college paid for, even while IN the military! Further, you'll learn respect, honor, integrity, leadership, and your service even transfers to college credits based on training attended and MOS!! Also, it'll teach some of you gnasty fucks to be far less gnasty... Be it a messy-ass pad, or gnasty personal hygiene.
There are a few drawbacks (pic related, Big Green Weenie always fucks you), but nothing worth doing is ever easy...
You'd have to be a FOOL to not join if you want free college!
How do people borrow that kind of money?
$0
Systems Engineer (IT)
Love my job, work half the hours of my college educated friends, and make six figs.
Would recommend. Easy to get into at low levels with essentially infinite skill ceiling that translates into more and more money.
>>685218777
>bieng this autistic
>>685211310
Tits get you far, Paid
http://1312484.igenapps.com/go-figure#0
>>685218840
shit, you brought up a good point too, you also earn college credits for your work AND experience which makes you a good candidate to be hired in places where its entry level and asking for 2-3 years of experience.
and like you said, all you gotta do is put up with some bullshit, but totally worth it.
>>685211310
>>685211310
>>685211310
>>685211310
>>685211310
Holy SHIT is this seriously normal in America???
>>685211310
This op
http://1312484.igenapps.com/go-figure#0
>>685219807
for med school? yeh
>>685220020
How do they expect anyone to pay this back? It would take an ordinary doctor decades to pay this back.
Is medical school not gratis like normal graduate school, btw?
>>685219142
Easy to get into? What did you study exactly?
>>685218227
No, just Chapter 33.
>>685220607
Most people don't pay back their student loans until their 40s or 50s
>>685218840
More infantrymen need to go to school when they get out. I was a line medic and I get really sick of listening to all the ultraPOGS in class get in dick measuring contests over who was less worthless.
>>685220984
Go bankrupt. Why the hell would you pay back that much money anyway? How can you get a mortgage... 323k is basically already a mortgage...
>mfw I don't owe any money to anyone since my dad died and left me five houses and two businesses
>>685221577
i dont think a bankruptcy will help get a mortgage either.
>>685211310
Big fat zero, so far.
>Went to Community College and got generals out of the way
>Transferred into new college
>Live at home and commute to save money, while working
>Hoping to graduate with no student debt, will have to take loans when I pursue my Master's
>>685211310
>Born with a crippling disability
>Parents make too much for financial aid in college and won't help pay for it
>Run up about 70k in debt for college
>Run up about 130k in debt from medical expenses because you used to be dropped from parents insurance if you move out even if you are in college until Obama changed that for you kiddies.
>Work for the federal government from out of college until my 30s because they are supposed to be equal opportunity employees and willing to really work with and help those with disabilities.
>My entire career there I deal with close minded management who make off collar comments about my disability and discriminate me while forcing me to remain in one position for my entire career because I was a "schedule a hire".
>Finally say fuck it, take my pension as a disability retirement in the gov, get on SS, get all my medical bills and student loans forgiven, and now I make about 26k a year on pension and SS and enjoy life and the things I like to do.
Some might say I took the easy way out but at least I tried instead of just going on disability as soon as I turned 18. The work force really isn't made for people with disabilities imo.
>>685215222
I sell furniture on the side and I also support an air refueling mission for the air national guard. I'd say im pretty productive for society.
>>685222780
good for you man (i mean it too) but wish you weren't a whiney little bitch and still try to make something of yourself.
>>685223338
meant for
>>685215348
>>685211310
I'm a med student too! Yeah that debt runs high, but won't be too long after residency and you'll have it paid off.
>>685221577
You can't. In America student loans are not wiped out by bankruptcy
>>685221577
not 100% sure but I thought bankruptcy didn't get rid of student loans?
>>685212290
yeah but how does it feel to do a shitty job that you strived to earn ONLY 44k
>>685223744
only way they can be forgiven is 20 years of paying them off, 10 years of paying off with certain jobs, or a disability that renders you unable to work for the rest of your life. Even if you get them forgiven as the disability the government fucks you over by making you count the amount forgiven as income earned for the year so you owe the IRS a shit ton of money come tax season.
Jesus fuck, I'm planning to head over to OHSU myself, I'm in for a lifetime of debt.
>>685211310
As someone who wants to become a trauma surgeon this makes me not look forward to medical school
>>685211310
At around 125 now, going to be $160k total not counting interest for this last year (graduate in 1 year). I'm a pharmacy student so I'll be making somewhere in the range of ~110-115k.
Won't be making as much as a medfag but I also won't be doing a residency.
I still have a ton in student loans since I had no parents to sponge off of and didn't feel like working full time, but your picture makes me feel a bit better.
>>685223632
Where??
>>685224355
Not OP, but a med student (posted ten posts ago or something)
How do you know what specialty you want to be without even being in med school yet? I'd advise you do some shadowing, going in with a narrow mindset can be dangerous. Most don't decide on a specialty until at least second year, some even later. You need experience before you can make that kind of a commitment.
Nothing Mexico is a cheap place to study
>>685224106
Congrats! It's a great place! The view is amazing. What are you going into?
>>685211310
Bernie will clear my debts, right guys?
>>685215615
Professional schools are expensive because of the salary you can pretty much guarantee once you're done.
Graduate schools are less so and students often get stipends... because they aren't guaranteed a great job after they get out.
Simplified comparison.
>>685224688
Especially trauma surgery. If you like hobbies besides doing surgery and paying alimony and child support you might want to reconsider
>>685224688
Ive shadowed a few physicians, and some surgeons. Im not saying im sticking to that but with what i have gotten to see i feel like i would enjoy that the most.
>>685211310
>OHSU
>Keep portland wired fuckin' faggot
Portland need to disappear into a fucking pit.
@the medfags
Not the point of this thread, but I'm curious about what medical students think of pharmacists/pharmacy students.
>>685224752
Orthodontics
>>685221577
>go bankrupt
>>685225431
OP here. You guys are indespensible and appreciated by everyone. Unlike dental students ;)
>>685225431
Youre stuck up plebeians, a monkey trained to put color coded pills into the right box could do your job.
Infact machines are taking it over
>>685218840
>liberal shit-stains
let me guess
you hate those gosh-darn millennials too
>>685225766
>>685225774
I guess that pretty much sums up the two most common viewpoints.
>>685225774
This person has no idea what a pharmacist does. My wife is a pharmacist and fixes doctor fuck ups all day every day. It's like doctors are trying to kill patients out there. If there's a problem with your script, it's a 10% chance it's the insurance company, and it's a 90% chance your doctor is retarded.
>>685225985
only whiny bitch millennials. I am part of that group. I just choose not to be a part of the entitled group.
>>685225985
Millennials are the plague
>>685226363
>hurr durr technology bad
>fire scary
>>685226363
what age group do yall define as millenials? people born after 2000? people born after 90?
i feel like its the ones born anytime after about 94-95 that are shit
>>685218840
but on medications so i cant join
>>685226503
I am a millennial you fuck tard, and im ashamed to share a classification with any of those bitch and moan college libtards
>>685211310
PE: Composites Engineer
Sold my racing bicycles on ebay
Total college debt: Just under $500. Paid it off with my first paycheck, never thought about it again.
>>685226769
no, millennials are people who reach adult hood around the year 2000.
>>685226769
millennial refers to anyone born after 1980 i think. but i mainly think of the whiny college fags
>>685226769
Anyone not born by the end of the 1970s is a turd.
Post 9/11 GI Bill mother fuckers.
School paid for
Books paid for
Tests and certifications paid for
Equipment paid for
Uniforms paid for
Cherry on top, 1900/month direct deposit to my account just for going to school.
>Pic related, its a package full of what you fuckboys will carry with you for at least 10 years
>>685227347
millenials are born from 1980-2000 if you go by a generation being every 20 years
>>685227479
>probably born in 1979
>looks down on people born in '80
>>685226125
And if it somehow slips past the Pharmacist, the nurse usually needs to catch it.
>Souce, I'm a nurse
>>685227140
well when you're 20k in debt and unable to avoid it, due to both the right-of-passage and corporate minimum bar surrounding it, there's plenty to complain about
>>685227479
>born in the 80's
>Not a millennial
>Has literally nothing in common with Millennials
Nature vs nurture, champ.
>>685227479
The internet did it. If you grew up pre-internet, you grew up in reality, saw the internet get great and go to shit, and have an actual baseline for what is reality and what is not.
Millenials grew up in the fantasyland of innernet & vidya, where things are idealized and money grows on trees, and they have no idea how reality actually works.
>>685227727
1976, Bicentennial Man.
Suck it.
>>685228199
Your quarters are awesome
Criminal Justice / Behavioral psychology
>Take police exam
>Told on interview board I was too intelligent for job
(They specifically hire average to below average intelligence fags)
>Working on becoming Lawyer now
Debt rape.
>>685227924
theres is a way to avoid it, scholarships and the military. thats why I joined, to set up my future.
the only one to blame is the public education system. not some evil CEO, and guess what political party most administrators affiliate with.
The fuck is wrong with u morons?! What part of LOAN dont u understand?? U knew unneeded to pay it back! How u think u were gonna do that with ur liberal arts degree it took u six years to get??
You were more than happy to sign the "I promise to pay this loan" contract, now you act like your debt is someone else's fault?
If you didnt have a plan, U should've stayed home and worked at BK and fought for 15
>>685211310
232k to study... people can hate France as much as they want, but it's fucking free here.
can you imagine doing the same shit without debt, yup, this is France
>>685211310
None
>Grow up in the 80's
>Fuck around on computers
>Get into systems & shit I shouldn't
>Learn unix on systems I don't own
>School never really appealed to me, worked as waiter, small odd jobs
>One day in the 90's isp owners ask "can you tell me what's open on our systems?"
>Do a couple of those, get paid a couple thousand.
>One day "Can you break in to prove we have problems?"
>Penetration Tests are suddenly a thing
>Flash Forward to today, Manager of Infosec for a couple companies
>Never saw a day of school. All self taught. Lock down systems, do pentests, write company policy
>Zero debt.
>170k+ salary, bonus, etc.
Feels good man.
>>685228748
I did too. Pissed away 5 years of a 6 year enlistment, did 2 tours, got shot, discharged w medical conditions, and couldn't collect any VA bene's because technically I didn't complete an entire enlistment. Can't even get USAA insurance. Apparently my service was worthless. Guess I just fought all those motherfuckers for lulz.
Fuck the usa. Fucking bullshit racket.
15k CAD
It was just an associates degree though (2 years)
>>685229485
You got jipped then, Im not even 4 years in and im collecting post 9/11. How did you get stripped of disability with a medical discharge?
>>685229566
it cost you $15k for an associates degree as a cad draftsman?
>>685229485
Horseshit.
If you're medically discharged, especially from enemy fire, you automatically rate Purple Heart bennies. Your VA is trying to screw you over.
Contact your local Disabled American Veteran chapter (DAV). They specialize in Va fuckery and will get you everything you deserve.
>>685229312
If not trolling I think your the only succes story on b
Probably about 100K. I spoiled myself and lived like royalty in college taking thousands and thousands of student loans out. Now, I am paying the price.
>>685229764
CAD as in Canadian Dollars
The degree is in chemistry.
>>685211310
Jesus Hong Christ, OP. I thought I was bad at ~$40K, but holy shit. I guess it's true when they said Medical School ain't cheap.
But yeah, I'm hoping it will be. I intend to work overseas when I'm done, and I kinda need a degree for that. Going for two.
>>685229833
I lucked out. I figured i'd still be working odd jobs until I died from alcoholism or something.
No secret to success. It's all dumb fucking luck,timing and a bit of work to get better than you were.
