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Sup /b/?

So who do you think wins?
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Preparation time?
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>>684877302
9 days
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Mr. Waterlemon
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Justice League no contest
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>>684877550
Why? They only have Superman at any of Z's warrior levels
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>>684877407
They have enough time for Batman, Cyborg and Flash to create a good plan. Superman is strong, aqua man is almost as strong, not to mention wonder woman's magic and strength as well. Flash's speed force is op as always and Batman with prep time is unbeatable.
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>>684877786
And superman could solo the z warriors.
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With no prep time the flash could stop them all.
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>>684878609
Goku is faster than time now.
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>>684878335
If they fight during the day batman can't come out. kek
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>>684876921
Well, the strongest iteration of Supes literally has reality warping powers, so this is an easy one.
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>>684879088
And the weakest version of supes is only "stronger than a locomotive and faster than a speeding bullet".
Cherry picking works both ways
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Objectively, Justice League wins. But Z have Yamcha.
>Z warriors wins
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>>684876921
The flash would be able to destroy the z warriors before they would even be able to react. This is such a curbstomp it isn't even funny.
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>>684879898
Goku is FASTER THAN TIME
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>>684876921
not the justice league because they have a woman fucking up everything
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>>684880129
even worse than yamcha
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>>684880129
One does have Krillin and Yamcha, though
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>>684877550
Fresh off the boat, from reddit, kid? heh I remember when I was just like you. Braindead. Lemme give you a tip so you can make it in this cyber sanctuary: never make jokes like that. You got no reputation here, you got no name, you got jackshit here. It's survival of the fittest and you ain't gonna survive long on 4chan by saying stupid jokes that your little hugbox cuntsucking reddit friends would upboat. None of that here. You don't upboat. You don't downboat. This ain't reddit, kid. This is 4chan. We have REAL intellectual discussion, something I don't think you're all that familiar with. You don't like it, you can hit the bricks on over to imgur, you daily show watching son of a bitch. I hope you don't tho. I hope you stay here and learn our ways. Things are different here, unlike any other place that the light of internet pop culture reaches. You can be anything here. Me ? heh, I'm a judge.. this place.... this place has a lot to offer... heh you'll see, kid . . . that is if you can handle it.
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>>684877786
Wonder Woman is a god and the Flash is insanely OP
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Justice league. Stop being fucking autistic
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>>684880396
Goku and Vegeta can turn into gods, and Goku is literally faster than time
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>>684880044
Time doesn't have a speed to be faster than that doesn't make sense
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>>684876921
It's hard because JL have a nigger. Cyborgnigga but...
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>>684880529
the flash is faster than time.
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>>684880542
It means he can move at speeds where the time stops or goes to a crawl.
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>>684880529
>faster than time
Didn't realize how retarded DBZ had become
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>>684880643
Mind posting the page, then?
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>>684876921
No contest, why is it even a discussion. Don't think too hard for Justice League sake, them Z boys would win
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>>684880044
the flash has ran through time and started time over
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>>684880261
>>684880239
>>684879480
Yamcha was great in Dragon Ball! DBZ destoys him :(
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>>684880679
1. That doesn't mean he's faster than time
2. Flash has been able to do that for decades
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One Punch Man beats them all.

With a single punch.
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>>684879898
im still waiting for a single author that can actually do the speed super power correctly.

wind is never accounted for (hurricanes would be created). sound rarely (every eardrum would burst). friction never (fires would be created from the heat).

necks would be broken when people are picked up at great speed. often simply cut in half. acceleration to great speed would kill them as well. unable to get air into their lungs even at low speed. objects would get completely broken when colliding with the hero.

if somebody could give me an example of a hero that have a proper speed power id be much obliged.
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>>684876921
Personally, I prefer the z fighters.
Seriously, it's comparing two comics.
>your character's stronger than mine?
>well then my character is yours + 1!
ad aeternum
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God people who watch anime are cringey as fuck
>b-but goku is a.. A SUPER GOD THAT MEANS HES STRONGER THAN A REGULAR GOD
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>>684881107
What is, superman prime?
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>>684881351
I don't know. I'm just making fun of them. You can't compare the two. Both goku and superman are literally written to succeed no matter what. That's the thing about fictional characters
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>>684881512
I agree entirely
>>684881093
I'm samefagging pretty hard right now
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the real question is: marvel or DC.
Protip: if you choose marvel your choice goes right in the fucking trash where it belongs
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>>684876921
couldn't the green lantern just wish the z warriors away?
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>>684881091
The "Speed Force" is basically how the Flash accounts for all those things you mentioned. Picking up a chick at 696969 mh and somehow not liquify her whole body? Speedforce. Moving through walls doesnt cause an explosion the power of 69 nukes going off? Speed Force. But yea a realistic sppedster wouldnt be possible because he'd prob just be a mass murdering asshole, whether he wants to be or not
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>>684881091
The Flash's body is surrounded by what he calls his "speed force aura". This aura protects him and anyone who is running with him or carried by him, from the effects of using his speed.
This includes friction and airborne particulate matter. It also protects him from injury from high speed impacts such as punches he delivers and receives from his opponents.
With this aura, he is able to absorb kinetic energy. He possesses a level of superhuman resistance to injury which at times does extend far past normal physical interactions, as received from normal combat.
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>>684880316
Top zozzle
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>>684881701
strange how there's not a single realistic super hero out there though. you'd think at least one author would take physics into account. im sure there's an audience for that
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>>684881072
yeah i dont understand these shit sucking simpletons arguing over which insignifigant insect will be able to jack off the other
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>>684881697
>not knowing Green Lantern's powers
Kek
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>>684876921
aquaman is the krillin of the justice league
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>>684880316
>upboat
you mean "upvote", i think
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>>684881893
now that's a deus ex machina if i ever heard of one

>>684882070
i saw the movie, the ring's basically his genie bottle right?
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>>684882015
They cease to be super
>physics makes us all its bitches
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>>684880316
i bet you can't even triforce

▲▲
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>>684880316
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The Flash's powers are gay and make no sense. I hate that hes always brought up in this shit but he never actually does anything.
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>>684876921
As much as I hate Martian Manhunter, he would own all the Z warriors. Invisibly, he would ghost into them and stop their hearts. Even Goku pussied out to heart disease.
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>>684881107
>>684881893
But comics fans are not cringey at all
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>>684882392
they would still be super (as in ignore physics) but everything around them doesn't need to be.
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>>684882527
*slow claps*

*steps out of the shadows*

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See you on the boards...
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Yamcha
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>>684882603
>Martian Manhunter
never even heard of this one before. i guess he doesn't have a movie yet?
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i'm tired of this topic.

screwattack broke it down over 2 videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyl97TG8jbA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0D0VGomWb4


A quote "Goku is about pushing limits, Superman has no limits, so what happens when you put a man who has no limits to give out vs one who does?"

"In short, Superman is as powerful as he needs to be"

so if they were to fight, Goku could receive training to beat Superman AT THAT SECOND, but Superman would need to become more powerful than Goku, so would be

no matter how strong Goku is, Superman will ALWAYS be stronger, the story between the two is so vastly different. Goku is about overcoming the odds while Superman is about a god living among men. if Goku ever became 1/10th as powerful as Superman, the series would be boring as hell, nothing would be able to challenge him in the DBZ universe
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>>684880316
Psssh… Nothin Personnel… Kid…
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>wew
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>>684878541
This.
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>>684883454
goku would just have a piece of kryptonite and superman is his bitch

superman is boring as shit to be honest. what kind of lame ass weakness is a stone that makes you into a baby anyway? i mean, come on.
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>>684879329
Who the fuck picks the weakest though? Strongest vs strongest, sups wins. Habeeb it.
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>>684879329
And the weakest version of Goku couldn't even do that, whats your point? Only their strongest iterations actually matter, and Superman wins that fight easily.
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>>684878750
so is the flash, he traveled 34x10^27 times the speed of light to beat aliens back to earth from the edge of the universe.

Flast >>>>> everyone ever.
literally his punch can weigh as much as the singularity of the big bang and move faster than the speed of light if he wanted to.
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>>684880044
So is the Speed Force, your point?
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>>684883771
Superman has become omnipotent (Golden Superman), meaning he no longer has the weakness vs kyrptonite, or anything for that fact.

besides Goku would never use it in the first place, and would highly likey destroy any of it that would affect the fight, Goku would want to fight Superman at his strongest to test himself. that's what Goku is all about

and I agree, Superman is boring as hell, but doesn;t change the fact Superman is the single most OP character in fictional writing
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>>684883454
>Superman wins because hes the most boring super hero to have ever been penned, basically.
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>>684884238
pretty much
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>>684876921
justice league ez, flash superman wonderwoman and green lantern would prob do it by themselves
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>>684882567
>and make no sense.

Anime doesn't make sense.
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>>684884192
someone watches screwattack, i like you
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>>684884153
THIS FINALLY
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>>684884153
But it never does.
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>>684883454
ehehehehe no. superman has been defeated many times before. People forget that even in the first few episodes the Z fighters had the ability to blow up entire planets with zero effort. Vegeta did it before he got to Earth. Just turning into SS3 almost destroyed Earth. Goku could wipe the floor with 95% of all iterations of superman. Only the extremely OP supermans could beat Goku.
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>>684884465
...and.
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>>684884502
>Only the extremely OP supermans could beat Goku.

Meaning Superman beats Goku. Thanks for finishing this debate then.
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>Silver Surfer flies into the scene and destroys everyone at a molecular level

Thanks SS.
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>>684884502
saying Superman has been defeated several times is like saying Goku has been defeated several times,

Goku was 1 shot by Raditz, could barely hold his own against Vegta the first time, even that fucking Gregory fucker was faster than him

if you're going to put the two together, take them at their strongest
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>>684883454
this. screwattack legit does this as their job. dbz fangirls gtfo and stfo already
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>>684882015
How could you be super powered if you obeyed the laws of physics?
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>>684884726
this, and superman at his strongest is infinite strength so there is no question here. also why i think batman vs superman is such bs, batman only "won" because superman didnt wanna fight him.
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>>684884727
Bullshit. It's Goku that constantly becomes stronger, and there's no indication that he has limits.
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>>684877434
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK1JRtoBY3Y
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>>684880529
>literally faster than time
is that all? google the flash kid
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>>684885260
yes he does become stronger and stronger, but no matter HOW strong he becomes, he will always have a finite amount of ki to draw upon, be limited by oxygen/food/water/basic shit needed for survival

Superman on the other hand is omnipotent

http://superman.wikia.com/wiki/Superman_Prime_(One_Million)
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>>684881893
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>>684885260
>>684885260
theres certainly indication he has limits, he struggles in his fights often, he has to work to get stronger. this is something superman never really has to do. im a fan of both characters however they are in completely different leagues
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>>684882567
Have you watched dbz?
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>>684882567
gtfo please. before you get proven wrong hard.
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>>684885437
Lemon has the greatest potential of all heroes, but can't do shit with it.
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>>684884192
The hulk would like to have a word with you.
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>>684886491
superman would just through hulk into the sun and leave. hulk can maybe hit superman but superman is much faster and can react to all of his hits quicker. hulk would be easy for superman
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>>684882015
how does batman ignore the laws of physics
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>>684886491
Hulk, while strong, again has his limits, even strength limits.

Superman has lifted infinity (literally infinity, and unending amount of weight that cannot be measured. look up the infinity book)
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>>684887490
>>684887055 i was this guy btw
however hulk does have infinite strength depending on his anger although he never proved this anywhere near superman so maybe not true? however hulk does not have anywhere near durability, or speed, or smarts, or flying, or heat vision, or frost breath, or mental attacks, or near teleportation, etc etc. hulk is nothing to superman
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>>684878335
The Z Warriors would have 9 days of training in the hyperbolic time chamber though. My money is on them.
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dont know, tune in next episode of dragon ball z!
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>>684888005
and that's his limit, Hulk has always been tied to his anger, but IIRC he has never been pissed off the point of becoming anything near Superman's level of strength
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What saga are the Z Fighters from? Super? Androids? Buu?
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>>684880679
Thats called approaching/traveling at the speed of light.

Flash/Superman have been established to already be capable of traveling faster, which would effectively reverse time.
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>>684888321
yea ik that, im just saying in theory he can have infinite strength, however his durability is not infinite
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>>684888535
for that matter at what point are the justice leauge from

superman basicaly goes and lives on the sun for a time in hibernation growing stronger every second
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>>684884726
>could barely hold his own against Vegta the first time
>vegeta won that fight
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>>684878335
>implying
The z warriors would easily win.
Batman exploits weaknesses, something none of the z warriors have at a physical level.
Superman can be crippled by a rock.
Flash is not faster than instant transmission.
Cyborg is not made of diamond, he can be blown apart.
Aquaman is not nearly strong enough.
Wonder woman is a woman.

Z warriors easy win.
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>>684888881
god mode, superman has no weaknesses.... flash is faster than instant transmission, he actually reverses time, cyborg i can get with, aquaman got updated to have lightning, wonder woman is pretty fucking strong actually and can keep up with superman. gtfo before you only defend one side.
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>>684888881
>batman drops a playboy taking out roshi
>batman yells at gohan to dodge, then slap him like the bitch he is
>batman just laughs at yamcha

Tien tries to tribeam into a square, cyborg easily handles that paradox
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>>684884192
no idea who this golden superman is but
>single most OP character
sounds kinda baitish.
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>>684889746
I like this answer.
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>>684876921
The Z Warriors would be too busy sucking cock to notice the Justice League pummeling them into a fine paste. DBZ is for faggots.
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>>684876921
I'm not a teenage Japanese fag so I have no idea who the z warriors are. Might as well make a Justice League vs My Little Pony for you fags.
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>>684880725
>the goku claim doesn't need proof
>the flash one does though
Autism, much?
PS: The Flash did need outside help for this one.
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>>684890629
>lying on the internet

why would someone do this
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>>684890297
read >>684885498
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>implying goku could seriously compete with this level of bullshit

and this was New 52 not golden age level of bullshit like pulling 100 planets on a giant chain. WTF DID HE GET THAT CHAIN
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>>684890750
That comic strip is dumbest shit they've came up with to beat beings that do instantaneous travel that rule universe or galaxy, literally doing speed so fast it doesn't exist and exist at same time, but I'm glad 52 said everything before is irreverent now.

Get rekt flash
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>>684891559
>May I have proof for this feat, please?
>Thank you for the proof I shall look this over and come to an unbias conclusion.
>Haha you gave me proof but I am going to dismiss it as retarded!
Are you retarded? Will anything satsify you? You don't want to have a discussion, you just want to feel right.
Flash is GOAT.
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>>684891801
Its true tho
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>>684884192
>>684884413
Except they were way out of character.
Goku wouldn't keep fighting when asked to stop that many times. Superman wouldn't kill someone who poses no threat to him.
>but Goku still has his morals even though Superman doesn't, so therefore Goku wouldn't use kryptonite
What the fuck?
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>>684892285
It isn't. When was Goku faster than time, by the way? You can accept Goku being faster than time, but when Flash does it, its retarded?
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>>684876921
goku blows up the planet then blows up the sun. goku wins the fight


if you are playing in a world where neither want to do anything to win then z fighters would still win but it would probably be a close fight and dependent on if the z fighters can get the dragons balls in time
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>>684876921
>i win guse
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>>684876921
Superman Prime 1000000
moves 1000000 times faster than the speed of light and can create an entire fucking planet and raise the dead. Unaffected by kryptonite

Flash moves hundreds of trillions times faster than light at his fastest iteration

Justice League wins easily
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>>684876921
Justice League, so long as they take out Goku first. Beat him and the others will fall like dominoes.
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>>684892651
I'm not same guy dickhead but Its true still and I talking about Flash in general not against Goku or any stupid DBZ character
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>>684880818
He was shit in dragon ball, too.
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>>684892687
>goku blows up the planet then blows up the sun. goku wins the fight

Everyone will be dead except Superman and Green Lantern. So how would Goku win?
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>>684892961
Well, let me de-construct your comment, then.
>That comic strip is dumbest shit they've came up with to beat beings that do instantaneous travel that rule universe or galaxy, literally doing speed so fast it doesn't exist and exist at same time, but I'm glad 52 said everything before is irreverent now.
>is dumbest shit
>that rule universe or galaxy
>doing speed
>doesn't exist and exist at same time
lol u tk him 2 da bar|?
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>>684892687
>Goku blows up the sun
In how many episodes?
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>>684888535
Doesn't matter Superman Prime wins one punch
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>>684893101
>the sun has been blown up
>how does he beat superman???
...
>the sun
>has been blown up
...
>THE SUN
>>684893322
31 and seven ninths
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>>684893499
SUPERMAN FUCKING PRIME NO LONGER NEEDS THE SUN, RED SUN/KRYPTONITE DOESNT AFFECT HIM SO FUCKING OP ITS A JOKE REALLY
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>>684877434
but... he is lemeon
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>Friendly reminder that Saiyan Beyond God Goku was almost killed by a ray-gun.
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>>684893301
before that comment, I'm guy with pic not before also Flash is faster than time and space even goes faster and faster which is stupid so Goku wouldn't ever beat Flash and Infinite Mass Punch and vibrate matter so fast it stops existing so...yea
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>>684894144
> friendly reminder that superman was almost killed by a rock
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>>684876921
Batman could take them all on at once. He may be outmatched in literally every way possible, but he has the power of shit writing, which makes him literally unkillable.
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>>684894144
zozzle goku is such a fucking pussy
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>>684894298
pfft what on the animated series? the weakest incarnation of superman? Prime is unstoppable.
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>>684894298
>Almost doesn't count bbygurl.

>>684894378
kek, it's exactly why I no longer keep up with DB.
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>>684876921
Sups, wonder woman?
Overkill JL wins
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>>684876921
the flash cyborg and superman would kill the z crew but all the rest of the justice league would get their skulls cracked open and aquaman would get cucked by vegita just before he got raped and murdered
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All you faggots will loose to this guy.
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>>684876921
Sadly justice league due to the stupid writhing and unoriginality. Give me 5min and I write Dbz so strong they would win. If both were original Z warriors all day.
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>>684894626
It's also not canon to Superman at all and has been completely forgotten by DC.
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These threads all end the same. Heres how it breaks down.

Strongest is Bugs Bunny, because hes the leader of cartoons and "toon force" is the most powerful thing in existence because it doesn't follow any rules and can break the 4th wall ect.

Then come the Gods/Writers and 4th wall breakers.

Then Superman/Flash both are pretty much broken beyond anything

Then everything else is just mixed up in a big pile of who cares below them.

And then batman steps out of the shadows and is proclaimed king because hes Batman.

There debate is ended lets move on to posting more cuck threads.
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>>684880316
I wish I knew what someone said to cause this pasta to be created. It's painfully cringey
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>>684895979
cringed so hard i felt myself blushing at the end fuck this
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I don't get all this bullshit
Flash is fast
Z warriors are so fast they can literally foresee the future (it happened on dragon meatbal spicie)
Since cell saga they could blow up a planet with no effort.
I don't think there's any contest
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>>684883424
I honestly like Manhunter. One of my favorite JLA members.
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Take all the comics/cartoon from Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster against all the Manga/anime from Akira Toriyama. then you have the real fight and story. everyone can writhe some shit and sell it. These storylines are the only ones that should count nothing else. Dbz wins
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