What type of government would be best so that there is little to no corruption. A type of government where the majority of it's citizens would be happy. It could be either one that exists or one that could potentially be made. if there is none, then what would be the best government to have out of the ones that exist or have existed.
>>684655555
bumpity
>>684655553
nazi gov
>>684655553
A minarchistic one.
The government should do as little as possible giving full freedom to it's citizens.
Low taxes, no trade and business regulations etc.
>>684657198
This but with a central force that can step in when things get nasty. More like a militia of trusted citizens that would only meet during crisis than a government.
>>684657198
Includes no federal currency. You can emit your own currency and no one can ban you from doing it.
Land of possibiliteis.
>>684655553
Google Venus Project
a RBE wouldnt need a Government so there wouldnt be any space for corruption. Its the best ive seen so far. Star Trek
No government at all would be ideal.
>>684657362
It can have an army and police, but like highly trained pros who really want to serve and give their life serving and don't kill people on the slightiest possibility of getting hurt like un 'murica.
Other law enforcement would be locals acknowledged by other locals.
As for army, i also agree. Like, in this country almost everyone would want to protect it, cause freedom.
I want to make Poland like this in like 10 years.
>>684657198
sounds great until a company gets large sets up a monopoly and destroys local economies
trade needs to be regulated
A cheer-o-cracy
>>684657698
Minarchist-fag here, i agree with this guy also.
>>684657828
Like capitalism?
>>684657926
a mix between anarcho and democratic socialism actually
>>684657198
Hows that oligarchy working out for you, murrican?
>>684657828
U can always do something better than them and if u look at it from the perspective like everything is super cheap, almost no taxes, only possibilities it's not that hard.
Anything Trump brings to the table
- said no one ever
A real republic with a council the country will split into a number of districts every district elects two council members, one must be poorest of poor the other richest of rich
>>684658117
and also, capitalism doesn't prefer monopolies, it rather prefers pluralistic free market.
>>684657698
I am sure these people would agree when they take what you consider yours.
>>684655553
A transparent government, an a privacy respected book of law. I bet somewheren in North West of Europe this could actually work
>>684658117
>everything is super cheap
no the large companys would buy out manufacturing facilities until they run everything major than drive the market price up to whatever they wanted it to be and there is nothing a small business man could do about it
>almost no taxes
sounds like crumbling infrastructure, unsupported lower class, and starving children to me
>only possibilities
until everything falls apart and you have no one to blame
I honestly believe humans would best be governed by psychic sapient trees.
Benevolent dictatorship.
>>684658403
>A transparent government, an a privacy respected book of law
this
>>684658579
we would all be safe under mind control
but is safety really a price for free will?
>>684658771
Oh definitely not, but that's not what OP asked.
If we're assuming a situation where everyone is mind-controlled and it's 100% effective, there would objectively be no dissent because we wouldn't be capable of it.
>>684655553
>high or mandatory union membership
>highly regulated economy
>trade policy that privileges local production
>basic income equivalent to $2000/mo.
>high taxes invested in strong infrastructure, strong social safety net and subsidies for the arts and sciences
>federally subsidized public transport
>reduced military spending focused on defense
>harm-reduction focused drug policy (decriminalization)
>participatory social democracy
>mandatory civic duties i.e. mandatory voting
>subsidized public education to age 22
>subsidized mental health institutions
source: Denmark, Switzerland, Iceland, etc.
>>684659306
youve got a point their anon
>>684659317
>mandatory
i already disagree with this and i havent even left the first line
you failed
>>684655553
I think it would be left-leaning libertarianism where the responsibility of the government would be to guarantee the freedom and safety of the citizenry and safeguard the basics keeping society functioning.
Any government can work as long as it's done in a way that they have the strongest military force to make the people feel safe, and low enough taxes for them to not complain
Basically dont be corrupt, so it's impossible
RESOURCE BASED ECONOMY
>>684657198
This and you get mafia all over the planet
>>684660565
thats right fuck everyone in the desert they can be poor for not being in a suitable area to farm
I believe in a technocracy, but I doubt anyone here is on my side.
>>684657198
>Low taxes, no trade and business regulations etc.
this is not a system that can function
>>684655553
Hitler's Government.
>>684661324
youre right
advanced technological skill does not qualify you to make decisions about social political issues, militaristic ventures, or foreign affairs
>>684661507
i remember when i was 13
>>684658122
Look out guys school's out
>>684658533
look what libertarians think and what idea of Anarcho-capitalism is, then start making assumptions.
Libertarian constitutional monarchy
(or anarcho-monarchism.com)
>>684661578
No but seriously, we humans are to retarded to make anything work, especially with the over population we have now. Only tribe life can work.
Primative theocracy
>>684657828
Monopoly is very rare in free market capitalism. Where you get monopolies and price fixing is in areas like taxis, utilities, etc. - those areas controlled and regulated by governments. You mostly need government power to create monopoly situations.
If anything regulations tend to restrict competition and protect existing firms, especially when the regulators are captured by business.
>>684661875
im well aware of anarcho-capatalism
just like im well aware of human nature
the idea that free trade will strengthen anything is childish
look at the current corruption within the system america has now, we have safeguards and laws in place to abolish monopolies and diminish their power but even still we have wealthy minorities taking a controlling interest in our economy and our government all together
it is absolutely idiotic that you would think removing those laws to protect small business would somehow get rid of the issues they were designed to protect us from
>>684656457
Fascism has historically been very low corruption, high production and happiness for most citizens. Although it relies on a small minority being in hell.
>>684661578
I see you mad jew.
>>684662072
youre almost where i was at when i was 15
keep growing youll get there kid
>>684662844
neo nazis are just white niggers
grow up subhuman trash
>>684662455
Really? AT&T, Microsoft, US Steel no government involvement with those monopolies.
>>684660769
Not that kind...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoqI9m3h4jQ
>>684659317
>>trade policy that privileges local production
Let's have Iceland grow their own oranges, make their own cars and car parts, and produce their own oil. That sounds smart.
>>684655553
White Supremacist+National-socialist+National-capitalist+National-libertarian+National-Traditionalist government.
>>684662455
no where you get monopolies are with resources
oil for example, an everyday good humans have been fighting over for years
monopolies are created by people who are smart enough to abuse a system to the point where they control the majority of the goods produced and sold of a particular item
government restricts the growth of these businesses free trade allows them to do what they please
regulations keep businesses from crippling our economy
>>684655553
Why do people ask serious/political based questions and then post an irrelevant picture of something sexual? It is to get people's attention so they'll read the thread? You asked a politic question and yet you posted a girl giving a blowjob.
>>684660565
is the worst. Look at Africa and the middle east, compared to Japan and Hong Kong. Resource based indeed.
>>684663633
>White Supremacist
you already fucked up, try again kid
>>684663027
I see you mad jew.
>>684663787
you polfags dont even try anymore do you
i want an argument stop letting me down
>>684663736
>kike is scared government can be White Supremacist instead of jewish supremacist what is now
>>684663196
that sounds like a great system for a small town of 100
it sounds batshit insane for an entire nation
>>684663969
im pure aryan
im just 13 anymore and i grew up from being a polfag
i used to think just like you
>>684655553
So basically you're asking what type of foreign military defense wouldn't lead to the military then using the guns the people gave them to become a totalitarian state?
None, as long as money exists and basic necessity is scarce there will always be government AND corruption
>>684662667
lol, interventionism is always bad. Nature hates monoplies. They will die of if u let them be.
>>684663126
Really? Tell me more about how Microsoft is a monopoly.
>>684663869
I am not from /pol/, I support them but I almost never visit /pol/.
>>684663869
>i want an argument stop letting me down
look at your own posts it is so argument. *sarcasm*
>>684664423
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Corp.
>>684664372
>Nature hates monoplies
>They will die of if u let them be
no monopolies will kill nature not the other way around
monopolies die when either 1) the government stops them 2) they run out of sustainable resources to control or 3) they completely destroy the national economy until society is too poor to sustain itself
tell me which option sounds better
>>684664556
>*sarcasm*
this isnt an erp thread go be beta somewhere else
>>684664372
Yes, in the way that AT&T phone service was supplanted by cell phones and the Internet. And in TV cable companies and satellite companies duke it out - and with AT&T again in the TV space. Though TV itself may be supplanted again by the internet.
>>684655553
Technocracy, particularly one run by a series/network of quantum ultra-computers.
>>684665031
ive already replied to one anon so ill just link you over there
>>684661547
>>684655553
Hive mind.
Think about it. It's hard to wanna fuck someone over that shares the same consciousness with you.
But like, interconnected individual perspectives, as opposed to just one mind.
Like a blend of both individuality and hive mind. So there's individual agency, but with the integrity of a collective human entity that has it's own best interest in mind.
>>684662853
You sound like a little child.
>>684665392
thats not a governmental policy thats the characteristic if a species
were talking humans here
>>684665524
says wannabee hitler youth
>>684662455
>Monopoly is very rare in free market capitalism.
>>684664931
God you are stupid. Monopolies are created by government made laws, not because buyers voluntarily pay more than a ware is worth.
>>684664741
The case was bullshit. You had and continue to have apple, Linux, etc, not to mention numerous Web browser choices. And all open source software movement, and now all the 3rd party apps on phones, tablets, etc.
It was a farce to believe Microsoft was a monopoly. And if it ever did become one, it would only be because people overwhelmingly chose it for being the best product, which isn't going to happen.
And I am no fan of Microsoft.
The sad thing is Gates recently said that in retrospect, one of the oversights he made in starting Microsoft was that he didn't hire a lobbyist. He thought government didn't have anything to do with his business so there was no reason too. Now he says that was a mistake. Shows how low things have become.
>>684655553
isn't blowing off your competitors or bosses even a kind of payment too? and where's payment there comes corruption automatically.
So i guess the only chance to a "free" government can be one build of asexual or castrated politicians.
prove me wrong /b!
>>684665800
Where do monopolies exist in free markets? Compare that to how many monopolies or near monopolies exist in controlled markets and then to entirely government run economies where everything is one big monopoly.
>>684665778
Use proper grammar.
>>684664931
You forgot 4) when the lumbering monopoly is undercut by the innovative and more nimble competitor or 5) the monopoly is undercut by technological progress that renders their product or industry mostly obsolete
>>684665629
We elect government to organize ourselves and our assets.
Or at least that's the excuse.
Society is a collective of individuals.
If the individuals could act on their own agency without worrying of in-fighting of different human factions then things would pretty much govern themselves.
It's just a matter of getting us connected.
>>684665868
>not because buyers voluntarily pay more than a ware is worth
jesus christ is youre reading comprehension that awful or are you just fucking with me
that is not even close to what ive been saying
heres the fucking definition of monopoly dumb ass
>pic fucking related
they are not created by the government they are not created by buyers voluntarily paying more than a ware is worth
they are created by business owners taking over control and buying out the companies that supply resources
they then use that power to FORCE a product to be worth a certain amount
>>684655553
People are happiest when decisions are made for them, when the burden of choice is lifted from them giving them time to get absorbed in meaningless rubbish. The government must establish full control while maintaining the illusion of disengagement. Fear is the best weapon to do so; if you can be both the threat to the people, and the sole answer to the threat, you control everything, much like Goldstein and Big Brother in 1984. People want the security of being sheep with the self assurance they are wolves.
>>684666634
alright i forgot the image ill own up to that
>>684665952
Bet you think the monkey scoops trial was BS too, get back in your trailer hippy trash.
>>684666651
This the the world now..? I don't see a global happiness going on ;)
I think in most situations a council of 20+ elected ministers would be the best. Similar to the UK parliament minus the psychological manipulation and first past the post electoral system
>>684657828
Monopolies are created when the barriers of entry to an industry are too high. barriers of entry are the result of regulation. new companies cannot conform to regulations, which are usually influenced, or written by, larger and monopolistic companies.
>>684666311
>5) the monopoly is undercut by technological progress that renders their product or industry mostly obsolete
youre correct on this one ill give you that but
>4) when the lumbering monopoly is undercut by the innovative and more nimble competitor
you cant undercut a monopoly that is the whole principal of it. it controls the flow of resources so only it can thrive
>>684667051
That's because people are told what they want and what they should want, and aren't getting what they ACTUALLY want.
They don't want to be freed from choice, but to not be judged and condemned for just going through the learning process.
Self learning is a process too, and it's been hijacked by other people's "shoulds and should nots".
>>684658054
two philosophies on complete opposite ends of the spectrum
>>684667244
>barriers of entry are the result of regulation
no they are made by companies buying resource production companies
you are wrong
monopolies are about resources resources resources
not manipulating regulations but manipulating resources
>>684657521
That's an interesting idea, but sadly in my mind's eyes I see those circular cities collapse under the weight of overeating fat fucks, NEETs playing vidya all the time, and horny sluts of both sexes fucking with everyone and everything in massive orgies
>>684666634
>Company 1, 2, 3 and 4 each own a 25% share of the anime business.
>Company 1 buys the other companies.
>Company 1 increases prices
>New company 5 sprouts up and demands the old price, it takes a share of the market.
This can only be stopped by a government going in and saying
>We are gonna give x amount of money to company 1 so company 5 can´t remain competetive
Company 1 gives politicians money so they enact policies which favour company 1 in some way, like a higher minimum wage or tax cuts for company 1.
>We are gonna use legal prosecution against company 5
The rules are made for the benefit of company 1 because company 1 paid politicians to make rules in favour of them.
>>684667747
and intertwining idead from the two to correctly make a form of government that works
democracy to decide what rules and regulations are in place when they are needed and anarchism for the things that are better off left uncontrolled
