Need some advice on psychedelics and mental illness, heard that there is in cases good effects from people with depression taking shrooms
also general drug thread
>>684424314
lsd made me less afraid of death. made me realise as bill hicks put it, that "life is just a ride"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgzQuE1pR1w
do your own research faggot.
don't depend on the world around you to spoonfeed you the right answers.
>>684425094
asking if people had real life experiences fucking degen
>>684425379
ya because research papers are not based on real life people and real life experiences.
you need to go do your own research. not ask /b/ for mental health advice. seriously get the fuck out of here and get your ass on google scholar.
>>684424314
>Need some advice on psychedelics and mental illness, heard that there is in cases good effects from people with depression taking shrooms
>
>also general drug thread
I took 4 hits of acid and I normally dip a can a day but after the comedown I didn't even want to for 2 weeks
Been thinking about trying shrooms and acid, the most I do is smoke weed or drink. Any advice or prerequisites I should be aware of?
>>684425706
nigger you're an idiot, he just wants to hear some stories, go be a buzzkill somewhere else
>>684426936
stories don't help mental illnesses.
>>684427107
nothing wrong with people sharing stories dude, obviously you don't lurk these kinds of threads it'd be weird for people not to share
Can go really good, can go really bad. If you have schizophrenia or have ever had any delusions or mental breaks before you probably shouldn't fuck with it. If you feel you have nothing left to lose and let go you will have a good time.
Psychedelics aren't as happy unicorns and rainbows as you would think. Most of the time you get thrown into very deep introspection of yourself and it can be very emotional. Be ready to face your demons.
>>684427235
I'm on the brink of just giving it all up and hitting the road. I can't be happy, sad, angry etc... at anything for very long. I'm not calling it depression, it's more like severe apathy. Think that one of these aforementioned psychedelics would be a worthy experience?
>>684427107
As a medfag, I can confirm that you're a fucking idiot.
But yes, OP. Do your research, have close friends around and remember it's your journey.
>>684427437
>>684427437
you're agreeing with a fucking idiot. what does that make you?
>>684427553
>doesn't have a valuable retort
>just blindly throwing insults like a teenager
Shiggy
>>684427655
expecting a valuable retort on /b/? you're as bad as OP expecting legit mental health advice on /b/ faggots. the lot of you.
>>684427909
I mean if you wanna talk shit back it up at least, otherwise we're just gonna ignore you since you have nothing important to say.
>>684424314
all i know from exp is that weed triggers the onset of schizo
>>684424314
check it bro bout to drop some knowledge on your ass
there is not enough research to say anything yet. but anecdotal evidence seems to support people "getting better". but it could also turn south really quick. if i was depressed and wanted to treat myself with psychs, id do it in a clinical setting and not at home.
>>684424314
Shrooms crush your ego into bits and that can teach us a lot. It has lots of benefits too.
Even thought if you meditate often you can get the same point of view(3rd person)/effect.
So yes shrooms make you humble (if done right).
>>684427235
To elaborate on your post a bit. Provided you don't have underlying problems in life, psychedelics in low to moderate doses can be very visual, body-high, euphoric rides.
It's larger doses and/or certain substances that will lead you down the path of self introspection, existentialism, and potential ego-death and apparent objectivity.
>>684425706
>get the fuck out of here
>enters a thread to be a negative fucking nancy
you fuck off
>>684428287
though* also set/setting are very important for newbies a sitter and eat something you wouldn't puke out easily and your stomach has to be near empty if you want to trip strong.
>>684428450
hes bitter dude. just leave it be man. lol its that simple. you dont need to be arguing with literally nobody and something that will be forgotten as soon as the thread dies. why are you both even continuing with this nonsense? just take it easy and relax. stop caring about other peoples opinions and stop thinking yours are the best ideas.
of course thats just my opinion. u niggers can do waht u want with your lifes.
>>684428619
all he did was tell him to leave
that horrible moment when you purposely get beyond fucked up on weed and you start to see how your relationships with your family is fucking horrible in every sense of the word and a cold blanket of depression and suicidal thoughts completely absorb you for a short period of time and you start to wonder how much longer you got it in you to deal with this stuff without losing it
>mfw
>>684428739
it doesnt take several posts to tell someone to leave.
>>684428812
>>684428812
>abusing the herb
take a break. its interfering with your life dude.
>>684428852
no no no this guy >>684428450
only posted once
>>684428936
2confused4this
>>684428907
yeah I know, im going to stop for a bit, I was using it originally to deal with anxiety but its just causing more by showing me how fucked up my life is
>>684425075
>"life is just a ride"
So many people who take psys come out with this hippy dippy attitude about life, humanity, and civilization, and that fucking bugs me.
>Don't worry man, everything's gonna be alright and nothing matters so don't try.
Golly, what a profound brand of enlightenment.
People are too willing to trust their insights and perceptions while on these drugs. We carry those moments with us for the rest of our lives as memories, but we can accomplish nothing with them. Has it never occurred to anyone that what you see and think you understand while on psys might not be the actual truth?
We don't have any idea how psys really work, or what they really are, or what we're really seeing. The TRIP is "just a ride." The world, and life in the world, is what is real.
>>684429006
my bad mate, I was the one arguing with the salty guy earlier, the guy I quoted had just posted in the thread
Op here, i dont really care about the guy who who was negative, arguing doesnt solve it just talk about drug kiddos
>>684429066
Weed did not serve me as a "habitual mental health aid," either. I didn't see it at the time, but in retrospect I would have been much better off if I hadn't smoked so much pot all throughout highschool.
>>684429171
Basically, just know that you can never control the drug. You may have a better hold on it with an increased tolerance but the drug will control you. You must be in a relaxed mindset and peaceful setting with very good, close friends or family acting as sitters to care for you. Because when you do this, you may as well be in another world.
>>684429138
if it makes people feel like they should geet up and do something its a good thing atleast, no point really just sitting around or waiting to die
there are plenty of peer reviewed articles on this subject. why would you value the anecdotes of random /b/tards over something like this?
Handbook for the Therapeutic Use of LSD: Individual and Group Procedures (1959)
maps.org/research-archive/ritesofpassage/lsdhandbook.pdf
>>684429138
>so don't try.
that is only your interpretation of it dude.
try thinking of it as "nothing matters, so try everything!"
obviously doesnt mean go drink some bleach either. basically the phrase life is just a ride means the tough times are just part of life. learn to accept them grow from them and move on.
>>684429066
good to hear dude, I was doing it like 3-4 times a week, (I know thats not a lot for some people), and have been off it for about a month now. When you've got shit to handle its nice to take a break for a while but if you spare some time and have a couple of friends around I don't see why not.
>>684429409
because its a community, we talk about shit and itss something to do other than just reading some boring information
>>684429565
>just reading some boring information
this is why you fail.
>>684424314
Interesting thread. My Brother used to be very depressed and full of anxiety. Always on edge, worrying all the time etc. me and him eat shrooms every once in a while. Last time we did them he claimed to have seen through his "third eye". That was over a year ago and I gotta say he really changed his life around. He quit alcohol and started working out and eating good shit and his general vibe has improved. I uses to not like being around him but I honestly think that trip changed his life.
>>684429348
at least your mom didnt fuel your ambien pill popping needs and didnt later give you medical herb to "deal" with your anxiety issues during high school
fuck
>>684429565
>fail
at what
>>684429409
human interaction is actually a lot easier to learn from than most other learning sources for most, hence teachers.
>>684429066
you can still use it. just dont make it a daily thing.
dont say no to certain opportunities just cuz youd rather smoke that day or night.
dont smoke if you know you have to do some shit in the morning ect..
basically just get your priorities straightened out man. u dont have to completely stop cold turkey. just slow down and figure things out.
you are doing anything bad or wrong. you are just learning. by 18 it seems society wants us to be ready for adult life, go to college, be perfect citizen, blah blah.
disregard and just do you.
>>684429598
Bruh whats you can't honestly expect these people to be super book nerds. Not everyone is the same. Maybe it's more entertaining to hear stories and experiences which may or may not be true. Maybe not everyone loves reading cold hard facts for hours on end.
My advice, as a multiple times acid and shroom user: mental illness and psychedelics don't mix.
I don't know how likely it is that a trip will make you worse, but the severity of the consequences if it doesn't agree with you should give you pause. Some people go so far out they just never come back, and they can be the lucky ones. A guy on shrooms ripped his own cock off a while back, and I can definitely conceive of how that could've seemed like a good idea at the time.
>>684429702
reading words that were written by humans is not human interaction?
lol what the fuck? yes it is...
>>684429793
Clearly you're antisocial or something man. Try going outside or talking to people in real-time for once.
>>684429641
me and a couple of my mates experimented a hell of a lot with acid of a 2 week period and we sort of had the same idea, 2 of us dropped the whole revelation of less drugs, me and the other guy are going strong and its actually had a really nice impact on my life.
good to hear about your bro btw
>>684429793
human interaction as in conversation
not just words being dictated to you
>>684429753
if entertainment is the point of the thread, then carry on. don't mind me.
if actually getting healthier is the goal. then heed me.
>>684429886
:^)
>>684429793
are you trying to be a smartass or do you want me to explain the concept of 'realtime' as well?
>>684429969
;^)
>>684430014
drugs that concors your self discipline and makes you want to be high
>>684426870
All you need to know is shrooms are great. As long as you go in open minded and prepared. Sometimes the trip can change on a dime but just focus on good vibes man. Your favourite music would help too, maybe a blanket and some cool movies too (if you don't want to go outside) best thing is to go camping and do them.
>>684429896
you guys are literally conversing right now.
>>684429537
>grow from them
>nothing matters, so try everything!
Pretty much just meaningless semantics and euphemisms desu. Fucking hippies.
>the phrase life is just a ride means the tough times are just part of life.
That might be your interpretation of the phrase, but in general, that concept, and others like it, are obviously much more in line with the >YOLO type perspective. Consumerism, individualism, ect.
There's no such thing as "spiritual growth." There is only real growth. And if there's nothing real to show for it, then there has been no growth. E.g. hippies who live in shabby shacks in the forest and do nothing but take drugs all the time are not "enlightened" people. They're delusional bullshit artists.
>>684430143
Hey dude guess what! Not everyone is boring stick in the mud that gets a hard on from working all day everyday!
>>684430143
yeah dude everyones alllowed an interpretation of anything they want. you just so happen to see all this as hippy shit. thats fine dude. i disagree. and i also learned the hard way arguing is also pointless as neither of our minds will be changed by the end of this converstaion.
>>684430143
psychedelic assisted therapy can absolutely help to spur real growth. however collecting anecdotes from an anonymous message board and then eating drugs with some of your highschool friends doesnt produce consistent results.
tldr; fuck this thread
>>684430072
how do shrooms compared to acid? Ive dropped plenty and never had a bad trip but have had a mate end up in tears literally every time. How do the good/bad aspects compare?
>>684429138
While I agree with your bastardization of new-age woo woo hippies, it is extremely important to realize that the objective reality you speak of, is only known through subjective experience. We actually have a decent amount of studies showing the pharmacological effects of psychedelics and how they bind with certain receptors. I'm far from those hippies who think that you "enter another dimension", it allows me to remind myself that reality is diluted by perception at every level. It shows me the fallibility of the mind and helps me to internalize the ever important "All I know, is that I know nothing" - Plato's bitch
And with that I'm still hungry to learn as much as possible because I know my time is limited.
>>684429138
>Golly, what a profound brand of enlightenment.
>>684429719
>just do you
His motivation is completely valid as is. Let him handle it how he sees best. He doesn't need your shitty stoner advice.
>>684430327
yea i cry every time i drop.
good stuff.
>>684430447
>He doesn't need your shitty stoner advice.
im not making him take it either.
Ah shit I should mention. Someone posted about schizophrenia and shrooms and I can agree they don't mix. A good friend of mine woke up in the hospital with police there. He didn't remember a thing but apparently he had a meltdown in public and punched an officer. He hasn't touched so much as a joint since.
>>684430526
but it's ironic because you're telling him to ignore societies advice and to take your advice. as if you are more wise than the collected wisdom of 21st century western culture.
>>684430327
Honestly I've eaten a lot of shrooms but never acid. (Live in the country so shits hard to find)
>>684430715
Darn, cheers man.
>>684430715
the real answer is that the experience is much too subjective to be compared to another's experience. especially comparing experiences between different psychedelics,
>>684430334
>While I agree with your bastardization of new-age woo woo hippies
So do I. I struggle to find the words to describe what gives this "meme" value, but I compare it to the "bastardization" of atheism. It is a strong push against the advance of this nascent 1984 NWO culture.
>>684430813
Cheers lol. It's all good. Every time I do mushrooms I do it on a nice warm afternoon and just go for a walk around my property. Check out the woods, lay in a field and just reflect.
>>684430847
Good point. I would imagine its two different worlds.
>>684430964
>Every time I do mushrooms I do it on a nice warm afternoon and just go for a walk around my property. Check out the woods, lay in a field and just reflect.
>alone
>in a comfy natural setting
Just came back from LSD trip don't ever do this shit u hear me, I took it with a friend and I was all cool but she had the worst experience of her life and I've stuck around with her for 16 funding hours and finally she's coming back to her senses.
Either do it with people that have done this shit a million times or either do it with somebody alone who's not taking
>>684431159
Fuckin' A man that's how we done do it here in the middle of nowhere. Also random question for everyone. What do you think would happen if you were tripping on shrooms and took a huge hit of salvia? (I know it's fucking dumb but I've always imagined)
>>684430626
no, just more wise than you.
>>684430334
In my opinion, it's not about whether you view it as chemical science, or as magic. It's not how you look at it. It's what you DO because of how you look at it, that is what matters.
If people thought it was magic from space aliens, but then that led them to try and get the banks out of the jews' hands, or led them to seriously try and change global poverty, ect, then boom. As far as I'm concerned, it's alien magic.
>>684431404
you trip harder.
derp...
>>684431489
I know but do you think the brain could take it?
>>684431579
you would probably come out of it like a dream instantly forgetting most of the experience.
Dont do shrooms if you have tendencies for anxiety, especially agoraphobia. That being said the first time i did shrooms i found a greater sense of confidence but that was me
>>684431408
>wise
You're a youth who knows less than he thinks, and who thinks too highly of himself.
It is in your personal interest to go cold turkey from all the drugs for the next 5 years. You would come out of the other side a better man for it.
Because right now, to be frank, you're a miserly piece of shit.
>>684431579
of course it can. you ever heard of a thumbprint?
>>684427429
I'm pretty sure it is depression. I felt the same way before I started taking medication.
>>684424314
Tanking shrooms while you have depression is the worst fucking idea I've heard
>>684431699
While they can definitely make a mountain out of what may be a molehill before the trip, if one can come to terms with these internal conflicts during deep introspection they may find themselves on a better path in terms of eventually resolving such issues.
>>684428084
This. Don't smoke weed & do psychs.
If you're depressed I suggest doing psychedelics. Remember that psychedelics aren't party drugs and that if you're trying to get something out of it then even bad trips can be beneficial.
It's easy to slip on psychedelics, especially LSD. Also if you have a weak grip on reality or don't know what you are doing with your life, I don't suggest doing any psychedelics.
>>684431832
Lol, yea it depends. It's really specific to the individual and their circumstances.
Psys aren't toys, and should be respected
>>684431746
Honestly no. Do tell.
>>684431868
I do agree on the weak grip on reality part
>>684431730
>thinks too highly of himself.
why does this even bother you?
literally has no effect on you whatsoever.
>>684430964
Sounds like an experience
>>684432071
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/1428246#1428246
>>684431383
Sorry to hear my man, had a similar experience with a friend who bugged out
>>684429138
It's that psychedelics can help you understand the functioning of life, humanity and civilization to different depths. The people who change due to psychedelics do so for personal reasons, you don't understand any of it in the slightest if you would passively label it as "hippy dippy". The trip is your brain far more active and unfiltered than it is when you're sober, there's as much as their can be to take away from these experiences. Not everybody separates their experiences through distinct measures of seriousness to begin with, it sounds like you're quite happy divisively labelling everything just because your opinion is that people should take life "seriously". Try to actually understand things instead of being a stereotypical dribbler.
>>684432316
Ah. Now that sounds fuckin sweet lol
>>684432360
How did you finally put your friend to sleep?
One thing I've always wanted to try is iowaska. That shit apparently kicks your brains ass.
>>684431461
Nah, psychedelics allow you to look at consciousness unfiltered and free from your usually emotionally black and white way of looking at things.
Everybody here who is trying to define what people are doing when they take psychedelics and what they think about it is missing the point entirely. These are personal experiences, a lot of people improve through them, the mind unfiltered is an experience of the reality of consciousness - it's quite obvious that something like this can lead to the deepest possible insights about any given abstract subject.
>>684432572
time is the only real answer
>>684432730
ayahuasca
What if your depression maniests into horrible hallucinations scarring your soul for eternity?
Once you open the door you can't close it my friend. Maybe you need to forget everything you thought was true. But maybe you don't. The choice is yours.
>>684432572
Didnt, he has depression and he took it and he wigged the fuck out, poor fella started breaking down into tears and then started to settle down after comforting during the come down
I see the trip of lsd as like a question building up in the mind when it is starting to hit you and you keep searching for answers then the climax is when it seems to be answered and ou just feel nice, I guess maybe the feeling bugged him out on the start up but he seemed fine on the come down
>>684432844
It's best you're as prepared as possible for psychedelics, and not take them if you have any serious mental issues.
>>684431461
I have ptsd, anxiety, an depression all from war.
I smoke weed everyday but just mildly. Like an 8th would last me a week.
I drink on weekends in social settings.
I don't think I could handle hard psyches, tried shrooms when I was 16 and was fun.
If I ever was to try it I'd have to be in a controlled enviprment. I had some chick I nz who said she'd do acid with me and we could go into the wilderness.
I think Id like that.
>>>684432451
>it sounds like you're quite happy divisively labelling everything just because your opinion is that people should take life "seriously".
Here's a reality check for you, oh wise and enlightened psychonaut.
The situation of humanity right now is beyond grave. Over 50% of the human population lives in abject poverty. About 2% of these impoverished masses are being used as fodder to disenfranchise the developed European nations. Think of the horrific beyond description state of animals born into the meat industry, and the extreme suffering they go through needlessly.
Apparently your sublime intoxicated epiphanies have not brought your attention to these things, but yes. We need to take our lives and our world a little more seriously.
>>684433314
what i think is interesting is that although everything you said is true. it's still the best it's ever been.
>>684432802
>blah blah blah, blah blah blah reality and consciousness
Get a job
isnt it kind of weird how our universe has the right conditions for chemistry so complex it ends up creating complicated systems capable of "perceiving" reality, holding memories, feel emotions, and at the same time cant be measured by our current model of scientific inquiry
>>684432877
I had the exact same experience. From what Ive learnt, don't go into an LSD trip looking for a 'high' or a 'good time' because you're putting it to waste. Be prepare to put yourself into the state you are entering ask yourself questions about your life. You will produce a lot of answers to your questions but only if you're in the right mentality for it, if the pendulum swings too far one way then thats when you can have a bad time. Also if you aren't feeling the questions of morality exploration aspects of the drug, chuck on some cartoons or something simple as shit that will still make you happy, that is the closest experience I have had with Europhia.
>>684433060
I still think Terminator really happened after a rough trip on an oz of boomers
>>684433570
>Euphoria*
heck.
>>684433492
>it's still the best it's ever been.
HA! I guess that's true from a perspective. But only for us in the first world, and then only arguably. For example our suicide rates are still unusually high, even relatively.
Something has gone terribly wrong brehs
>>684433314
I didn't refer to the situation of humanity or any politically serious area, the experiences people have on psychedelics are solely personal and about as personal as can be experienced. You have some bizarre idea that people change drastically due to these drugs and that therefore the experiences are dismissable. Since you're also quite happy throwing around shit like "psychonaught" and other laughable mockery I'll just assume you haven't a fucking clue what you're talking about.
What's wrong, can't have an unbiased undivided conversation about something
?, fuck off you transparent dribbler.
>>684429138
>We don't have any idea how psys really work
You don't have any idea how psys really work.
It (LSD for example) reduces the brain's communication with DMN (Default Mode Network), which is the part of the brain that relates everything you plan to do with your experience. (thus forming your Ego, and that's why there is a term Ego-death when taking psys)
That being said, it can be used for lowering anxiety and treating depression, because some people "live in the past" or are "affraid to do something knowing they fucked it up in the past". You lose that connection with the past.
While in healthy individuals, decreased communication with DMN results in those "hippy dippy attitudes about life" which are not that bad, they just feel relieved from pressure.
t. Pharmacist
>>684433554
This is the kind of shit that keeps me awake at night
>>684433554
It makes you wonder
>>684426870
if your not sure if you took enough, you didn't.
>>684424314
I tried microdosing LSD for the first time yesterday. Shit wasnt all that it was cracked up to be.
My opinion on the more regular use of pyschedelics is that they can help you get perspective and new solutions to personal problems like addiction and depression....but don't take everything you 'learn' on a trip as fact or truth...and dont expect them to unlock all these universal truths.
>>684427429
pro tip:
mescaline is the least likely to give you a bad trip....it's found in the san pedro cactus, and it can be bought legally over the net
>>684431832
>making new serotonergic pathways in your brain and stimulating your brain to make more serotonin while you have low serotonin levels is the worst fucking idea i've heard
I wonder why people rush to have the opinion on something they don't know jack shit about.
t. Pharmacist
>>684434190
Samefagging. And they can be a little dangerous for your mental health. For example, I went into a trip a long time ago in a relatively healthy mindframe. Took too much shroom tea, had a pretty awful trip. The concepts I latched onto during the bad trip and subsequent clawing for sanity on the come down were not good for my situation and ended up fucking me up for the next 6 months or so.
>>684433554
Psychedelics can heighten your awareness of absolutely anything in direct experience, your awareness of your own emotional triggers, of your usual labels and fixed interpretations, and of the illusion of self. Since the mind unfiltered is the reality of consciousness itself the contexts of improvement are endless.
It's all personal but at the same time all relevant to the automated nature of society and individual human nature. But if you want you can listen to people like this >>684429138, who have such a lack of self-identity that they have to use images of serious old men to represent their posts and opinions.
>>684434504
What about bad trips then
>>684433937
>You don't have any idea how psys really work.
Get over yourself. My point was that human understanding is still very limited and observational. It is not an exact science by any measure.
>While in healthy individuals, decreased communication with DMN results in those "hippy dippy attitudes about life" which are not that bad, they just feel relieved from pressure.
This is a large oversimplification of the situation. While alcohol and heroin are more dangerous socially speaking, and while psys have beneficial theraputic functions, that does not mean that psys are without consequence, like I described.
For example, alcohol and pot "relieve pressure" too, but they also have characteristic consequences. It is essentially the same with psys.
>>684434859
You're the one who needs to get over himself matey. :)
>>684434818
i've had a ton of them
they're not dangerous. they're actually correcting your fucked up thinking in a not so gentle way
what are you really scared of, and why is it silly?
>>684434818
They are suggestive of a bad environment around you, or more often of underlying problems or insecurities. I've had more than one bad trip, and while they're not experiences I would want to repeat at the time, they are ones that have helped me identify what's wrong in my life.
>>684434818
Serotonin is the happy hormone, but also plays a role in memory. If you take this guy for example >>684433236 , he would be the perfect example of a guy that should be treated with shrooms for the reason i mentioned.
But if you take your case of bad trips, they can occur on few occasions:
1. bad setting (worried, scared, bad people around you, crowded) = bad trip. This bad trip is nothing serious and can actually force you to face your fears and overcome them, and feel relieved afterwards
2. Dose.
Small amounts = unconditional laughing and feeling happy, just like being tipsy.
Moderate amounts = mild hallucinations, like saturated colors, enhanced hearing, seeing sounds and hearing colors
High amounts = strong hallucinations, and this can be either good or bad. In the "bad" case it is rarely that bad to worsen your well being afterwards. It's usually just like a nightmare, one time shitty situation
3. REALLY FUCKED UP serotonergic pathways (being molested after doing something you like as a child, forced laughing to ease you pain from anything). These are the ones that you should be afraid off. But just like one Anon said, people with serious mental conditions shouldn't take it
>>684435257
(not the guy who thought it a bad idea btw) I have had some good times on psychedelics, but one of the last times it seriously fucked me up, making me paranoid about reality and life for the longest time, with anxiety attacks and depresonalisation. I don't 100% agree on that
>>684424314
I laugh my ass off every time some druggie retard ruins their life by using psychedelics in an attempt to 'cure their depression' (go see a doctor you dumb faggots)
>>684427655
Checked
>>684428907
No. Do more and get over it
>>684434859
You're telling me about the oversimplification, while at the same time you can't cope with the info i presented.
Also, it seems like you didn't understand me, alcohol and pot relieve pressure while you're high, but LSD does it permanently. The mechanism in the brain is COMPLETELY FUCKING DIFFERENT and if you're not willing to learn something from the guy that's in this field, you are the problem why psys are so demonized, and you should get over yourself.
Claiming to be formal and unbiased, but rejecting scientific opinion. Great job.
>"they also have characteristic consequences"
this is the same blabbering you accused one anon in the thread for. I'm not for shooting up acid every fucking morning, it should be once-in-a-lifetime experience for those in need
>>684435891
Maybe worth mentioning it was mdma, I'm not sure if that still counts as a psychedelic, it made me feel like my brain was fried with forced happiness, while feeling terrible underneath. I have had shrooms before and those were pretty good, but that experience just ruined it all together for me
>>684436561
MDMA is not a psychedelic. If you experience hallucinations from MDMA, that's a good sign of your neurons dying, meaning you overdosed.
So your bad experience comes from a different mechanism
>>684436554
"Shooting up acid" LOL.
Taking LSD intravenously will kill you.
>>684436554
Maybe consider making a scientific study about how to calm down.
>>684436802
Probably, I only was willing to try it because of it's doubtable psychedelic/stimulant status and for some people it seems helps them with depression, I got over the experience nowadays, but I don't want to take the risk to relive it all by taking shrooms
>>684426870
just be in a good mood before taking it and just enjoy life
>>684429138
Dad, what are you doing here? Get off of 4chan and go back to watching that non-spinning Irish cunt on Fox news.
>>684438016
would recommend
>>684437736
english is not my mother tongue, "hit" would be better term i guess
>>684424314
Only way to find out is to try it for yourself
Everyone has different experiences
>>684438016
Mdma is helpful to get you to open up, feel empathy and communicate. Apparently ptsd is the area it shows the most promise. But i have found it can dramatically improve my mood and perspective after rolling in some circumstances. i also had a pretty important (and legit true/accurate) epiphany with mdma that has helped me with everyday life ever since. On the other hand, I've also fucked up my brain chemistry pretty bad on another occasion where I took too much too frequently for a few months.
>>684437736
>>684438016
>>684438448
I will say though that when ever I took acid I felt much more clear headed for 1-2 days afterwards. And just in general felt better mood wise.
I've suffered from depression for like 14 years. Anxiety and OCD about half that time.
If anyone in Toronto is selling or knows people selling dank kush Skype me at MintReactor
>>684424314
I use LSD as anti-depressant. If I feel shitty in the morning, I drop 15-20 micrograms with breakfast.
>>684435972
You have many accounts of this?
You think seeing a doctor is really going to help?
Do you not think sometimes things should get worse before they get better in order for people to confront negative behaviours and then correct them?
>>684439623
So i tried microdosing the first time just yesterday and was underwhelmed. Not sure if i took too much, not enough or was in the right zone. What should i expect if doing this right? I felt a bit more energy but a bit more nervous too. With lots of motion, i could feel some disorienting effects. Also, there was about a half hour period i felt like i was coming up, which was not that pleasant. I guess it could've been a bit of placebo, i thought i took like 5-10ug but its hard to dole out small quantities of jelly tabs and i have no idea how evenly dispersed it is within the tabs. Any tips?
>>684439498
True, one time before it wasn't so bad and really helped me to open up, but it is so easy to go wrong with it
>>684440250
Assume we're talking about LSD and that you've done a full 100μg.
Try 20μg, and try to get a hold of better quality tabs. The way I dose it dissolve 100μg tabs into water, than measure out how much I want volumetrically, and mix that with a drink..
>>684439623
I do the same thing, but with vodka
