From 1-10, rate Obama as a president, --objectively--
was he good? bad?
History will reflect fondly on him.
We have had worse but we have had better as well. Lack of getting the house to cooperate is what kept him from doing more good.
I'll think fondly of him too along with Uncle Joe.
about a 6.5. None of his programs were particularly innovative. His war policy was a carry over from the previous, open government went out the window, etc,etc. He wasn't a failure ust nothing particularly different or spectucular. I doubt anyone would be cheering him if he was white.
He was good and did most things right. I'd vote for him over any of the current candidates.
i don't think he's actually responsible for actual job creation..it's more or less economic fluctuation. however sitting administrations always take credit for the economy when it's good..less so when it's bad.
Other than obamacare and his inaction that made isis such a bitch to remove, well yeah, he had a decent run. He got most of domestic shit sorted up and able to sail through shitstorm that is the great recession 2008
>lost so much weight even his ring doesnt fit properly any more
pretty sure he never stopped smoking, either.
nor did he ever settle on a local church, as he had promised. gotta respect that level of subtly trolling people.
His administration decisions directly destabilized the Middle East and is wholly responsible for the creation of ISIS. His foreign policy has largely made the world a far more dangerous and fucked up place.
3/10. He tried, but most of the shit he focused on was pandering to SJWs. The real unemployment rate is also a lot worse now (discouraged workers) and I have to pay about 40% more for my insurance due to the Affordable Healthcare Act. Meanwhile illegals get free healthcare. Saw it happen first hand with a friend's mom.
Realistically a 6.0 he made some good choices with the economy and saved my home city of Detroit by bailing out the motor companies.
I wouldn't call his presidency a sucess and I must admit If I could go back in time to vote for Mccain I would.
Considering he broke international treaty, this week, to set Russian relations back two decades.
Before this week, fair.
He spends more time worrying about non issues like allowing trans to use bathrooms or the wage gap.
No one worried about which bathroom last week, and wage gap has been illegal for more than a decade.
No, ISIS was not preordained. ISIS could only happen with Obama's help.
Read up on it, I suggest you look up the Iraqi election of 2010 and the Obama administration's handling of Iraq during and after that. There are a huge number of major mistakes the Obama administration made in foreign policy and you can often directly draw lines to terrible world events from it.
if jfk was a 2
johnny howard was a 1
kevin rudd was a 1
tony blaire was a 1
hilter was a 1
eisenhower a 1
fdr a 1
pol pot 1
monkey would be about a 1
feel for the dude liked what i heard about reducing soft drug sentencing but it should be zero 10 grams is 100 dollar on the spot fine in some companies
5. He'd get a 9 but he sold out to the insurance lobby and refused to table the public option. Other than that, there's not much to judge. Congress blocked pretty much every thing he tried to pass so who knows, could have been good, could have been bad. Instead he just sat in the seat impotently.
Feel like McCain and Romney wouldn't have been great for us during last elections, but I don't even know anymore. Voting Republican and I guess Trump this year, am actually a gun owner and learned Democrats are shit when it comes to gun info and policy which has made prices skyrocket to shit.
I don't even hate him for being a nigger because he acts more like a cucked white nerd. This fucking cuck has his mother-in-law living in the White House. The marriage is obviously a sham because he's gay as fuck (see Reggie Love). I really miss his fake ass Martin Luther King speaking inflection he used when trying get elected. Hopefully he dies of AIDS.
How would illegals get free healthcare that makes no sense. They get care in a hospital because you cant turn them away and then the hospital eats the cost. Technically health insurance premiums help pay for the loses by charging ppl wih insurance more, but its not medicaid. It is hihly unlikely illegals get any social services because they are illegal and have no documentation to apply for said services.
2/10, other than Bush, likely the worst president/administration since Carter
He was handed an awful situation by Bush and an unproductive Congress that refused to cooperate. However, his spending has been unsustainable. The original guise of trying to push us out of the financial crisis (similar to the New Deal) should have disappeared, but we still have deficits on the same level as Bush.
Obamacare won't be sustainable down the line. We already have record deficits, and even cutting spending from other programs (defense, etc) won't curtail the impending demographic crisis (baby boomers retire, lower birthrates and less wage growth for younger generation)
Russia and North Korea have made moves, but the alternative in this situation to sanctions might have been worse. Syria and the Middle East went to shit and is still staunchly anti-Western despite originally supporting the "Arab Spring". Poor decisions and indecisiveness despite attempts at diplomacy
1/10 and I voted for him in 2012. I was an ill-informed libtard, then.
He easily displaces Carter from the title of worst president in history. Carter, after all, never put us in danger of nuclear attacks. I'd be surprised if Israel isn't completrly annihilated by Iran's procurement of a nuclear missile.
Annual GDP growth hasn't exceeded 2‰ in any one of his 8 years of office due to constraints imposed on commerce. This phenomenon is unique to his presidency alone. Not even FDR, with his large-scale economic interventionism during the Great Depression, fucked up this badly.
The AFA has had the disasterous consequences that were foreseen by economists: rising premiums with reduced quality of care. When the government subsidizes the costs of getting medical treatment, people are more likely to make frequent use of those services than if they had to pay for it themselves. This leads to gross inefficiency and waste, as healthcare is a scarce resource that has many alternative uses and applications (no doctor has more than 24 hours in his day, you know).
Crime rates in the US have been going down consistently over the last 20 years, but have risen just this past year. This is likely due to law enforcement's reluctance to go into high-crame areas for fear of being portrayed as a racists by the leftist media. Racial tensions are worse now than they ever were under Bush.
Obama going on tour to apologize to the world for the actions of the US confirms that he is a self-flagellating pussy. For the record, we the people of the United States do not apologize to you. In fact, we think you should thank us. You should kiss our collective butt in gratitude and appreciation for all we've done for you by saving you from your own tyrannical stupidity in your stinky, god-forsaken, slavery-loving countries. If that sounds anything like "we apologize", we apologize, because we don't apologize.
Objectively, 8/10. The fact that congress (and Republicans in general) tried so hard to cockblock him every step of the way, 9/10.
With that being said, I would rate our last President (Bush) an 7/10, very much bordering on an 8/10. I voted against him once and for him once (yes, that old fag) but overall I think he didn't do to bad.
might wanna compare GDP growth, unemployment rates, interest rates, etc when he came in and when it left. i'm not even a big obama fan, but its not like its worse as a function of him being in office. he got blocked on everything (some of it, thank god like his gun shit) so his economic policies have been half measures/neutered versions.
GPD was -5% iirc when he came in
unemployment was mid 7%
GDP deficit lower than when he came in
stock market... obvious difference of 8-10k points
fed raised interest rates for the first time in...fucking forever. barely, but at least it went up some.
for the era? he was alright. i'll give him a 6/10.
Out of curiosity, what IS it to "be american" ?
Being an American (now days) means, if you don't agree with the way I do your a fucking degenerate slimeball who doesn't know what it means to be American.
It's fucking absolutely pathetic. The partisan nature of our government and our citizens in general is absolutely fucking sickening.
Trump will utterly destroy her
he has already caught up in national polls, even winning her in some and he has barely began to rip into her dirt
>this is her best idea of an attack
she cannot debate for shit
I would disagree completely. I think in his first term, especially the first few years, he tried. But he realized that he was never going to get support from Republicans and just quit trying by the end. You can call it a failing on his part, but blame goes both way.
I think his big mistake was trying to serve his whole term as if he had a strong mandate from voters. His party lost both houses of congress on his watch, and he never shifted to the center like Clinton did in the 90's. Then he has the nerve to criticize newly elected majorities in both houses for not doing what he wants. At this point, he has been reduced to pandering bullshit like cancelling pipelines and peddling bathroom politics.
>won the nobel peace prize for a reason
>Now I know you're full of shit
Yes Obama won it for a reason. It was so that the Nobel comitee could have the US president come to Norway. Thus the norwegian political elite could bask in the spotlight but for a moment. Our politicians are vain creatures. And most if not nearly all commitee members have a political background. It's like a pretty well paid chill job you get for doing as youre told back when in office. Lot's of that happening in Norway and around the world. Our former prime minister is now the head of NATO. What backhanded deals with the devil did he make to get there?
weak pussy who tried too desperately to try to get people who hate him to like him,
you cannot compromise with republicans as they refuse to compromise on any of their issues, the best way to deal with any conservative is a giant middle finger but for his first 2 year while he still had congressional majority he decided to bend over and display his asshole for use.
They took over the congress in 2010 and it has been a disaster since because the democrats try too hard to play moderate but if people wanted a fucking conservative they would have voted republican, democrats fail hard, really hard, when it come to progressives (who they are supposed to be the left wing party and all).
Overall Obama was a disappointment but I kinda saw it coming when he was running due to who all was funding his campaign, he's just another useless do nothing corporatist democrat, which are in as much demand as a tiny limp dick. We want a big hard strong progressive.
You are welcome to disagree with facts (and I expect it from someone like you), but in reality, the democrats controlled the the 111th congress from 2009-2011. Obama had little to fear from the republicans during this time. He was allowed to do almost anything he wanted.
>he literally just insults people and doesn't offer substance.
he literally beat jeb bush with a single retort. He won like 17 other career politicians already
the substance doesnt matter, the --impression-- that it leaves voters will.
hillary is shit without her teleprompter. Her only card is the women's card and the more she uses it the harder he'll BTFO of her when he invokes the deeds of her husband. On everything else she has a closet full of skeletons too. Bernie can beat Trump but Bernie is effectively dead at this point.
Not disagreeing with that part. But in the senate they only ever had 58. Unless you have 60 you can filibuster shit all day
Look at shit like the National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform, where it failed 53-46, including 6 of those that voted no were Republicans who were on the bipartisan committee who made the god damn thing. They voted against it just to stick it to Obama. And that isn't even my own words that is from a Republican (Alan Simpson)
All I am saying is the Republicans offered absolutely no olive branch
Did Obama invade Iraq and remove the ironfisted government that was keeping the local warlords in check? I had no idea. I always thought it was that Bush fellow. I bet Obama was also the person to plunge the economy from a surplus into decifit as well. Gee wizz, you just cant trust them niggers, can you.
Anon, I like your spirit and all but the majority of people don't really care about politics, voting and polls.
But the thing is, they do care a bit about their country. So when they're going to see that this vulgar moronic reality tv candidate coul actually lead their country they'll get off the couch and vote for whoever is not him.
That's what happens everytime an extremist makes it to the final.
can't argue facts with conservatives, they just repeat what ever faux noos or their preacher tells them like a parrot, they can't actually comprehend words, language, or complex ideas.
I don't think you remember the number of times the senate got shut down by republicans during his presidency. its not that the people in office 09-11' were different. there was no 'free ride' because it was not a decisive majority.
again. i'm not a huge fan, but acting like they had 3 years of free pass is a joke.
>hillary literally killed multiple people with her inability and compromised the country's security as well
>running for president despite being under FBI investigation
>trump is somehow the extremist
He divided the races, legalized gay marriage, made it a crime to be a heterosexual white Christian male, glorified black criminals, allowed immigrants with disease (Ebola/zika) into the country, destroyed the US military by allowing faggots to run the show as a new minority and women in the infantry. And other things too.
It's a fucking miricle that he hasn't been killed, very unfortunate too. I hate that nigger more than I love my own life.
Finally someone who understands.
Obama is the biggest disaster we've ever had on foreign policy, at a time when it was most needed.
Rest of you are too fucking stupid to realize this and get your talking points from HuffPo.
And you're oh so educated with your womyns studies degree arnt you?
You mother fuckers will pay for what he's done, I swear I will kill as many of you as I possibly can. I'm planing it out now.
From a European point of view Obama was a 10/10 president i just like him. If US is anything like Obama i might visit that island on the other side of the atlantic one day :D. If it was possible he would get my vote to run EU.
I don't know whether you're retarded or just trolling. Either way, take long trip down a short rope.
Foreigner here, I said last week how he always looked very smart and at the same time approachable and down to the ground, compared to bush for instance. His speeches, his tv appearances always made him look smart in a way most older politicians aren't.
If I was american i'd be out in the streets rioting for a 3rd mandate considering the current running candidates, but meh, what do I know.
>he always looked very smart and at the same time approachable and down to the ground, compared to bush
interesting. 90% of americans consider him aloof and condescending while even w's haters thought he was a nice enough person
i didn't have question. i was just making the point that ISIS isn't a result of obama because it was a growth out of the iraq conflict, forming as a splinter of al queda in iraq following the destabilization of the region... which begin in 2003 (hint, prior to 2008). acting like he is responsible for ISIS and the instability that created it is stupid.
tldr; twit up there is stupid
yeah maybe I don't know bush well enough, but obama himself always looked confident but down to the ground, I'm not sure if bush did that, but going into social media, participating in shows like between 2 ferns to sell his shit was very clever imo.
His wife played her part too, the whole family thing he has about him puts him in a positive light to someone who isn't particularly educated on his government.
Regarding the DOW and unemployment: the Housing market crash coincided with Bush's last year of office and Obama assuming office. This bloats the difference by having a drastically lower limit. Markets are bound to recover as a function of time, so attributing growth to any positive action made by Obama rather than his inaction is difficult to gauge. Unemployment refers specifically to the percentage of labor force participants actively seeking work, but cannot find any. It is possible for the unemployment stat to be lower, but the overall workforce participation to be higher. I am against entitlements for this reason; it's one of many factors that kills productivity.
2/10 Most nontransparent administration ever in the whitehouse.
Sorry i tracked back the answers and came to this (not by you):
- "Finally someone who understands.
Obama is the biggest disaster we've ever had on foreign policy, at a time when it was most needed.
Rest of you are too fucking stupid to realize this and get your talking points from HuffPo."
I think the opposite, Obama did great, he attacks without unnecessary casualties when possible. He cares for his own people the americans (or US) trying to get healthcare for all which is what we in Europe get when we need it,
He tries to get people out of poverty which i guess the 1% in the US who has 99% of the assets are not interested in at all, they only want pay-slaves whop they can bully into working cheap so they can earn more.
He seems like a good guy who wants all of the people in the US to live well and safe.
you're right. some recovery should be expected. however, the market crash was a result of a bubble created under bush when housing prices started to skyrocket around 2005. that means that the recovery is also due to partial effects of obama working with the economy to keep that same shit from emerging (as quickly, in the same way). however, there is a reason that the market hit strides far higher than previously under obama.
agreed that unemployment is a shit number for exactly why you mention, but thats a hard thing to correct for because there aren't good numbers for actual unemployed or underemployed... because no government wants to see that shit under their watch.
not defending him as a 'perfect' president. i mean. the economy is fucked for a number of reasons in this country. but he did far better than bush and was a solid 6/10 for comparison purposes. bush was a shit president for a large number of reasons.
I voted for him twice.
- Obamacare sucks. He started out with Democratic majorities, but still got cucked by Republicans who made him whittle down any semblance of single-payer into a gift to insurance companies. Then Republicans use that to take over both houses.
- Has emboldened groups such as BLM, SJWs, cop killers. Every time a black person is arrested or given a parking ticket, he has a press conference and the Justice Department investigates.
- Has done nothing to legalize pot. Maybe he has laid off of going after medical marijuana dispensaries, but those are just storefronts for illegal sales that keep prices artificially high.
- Dream act. Hasn't done shit about illegal immigration other that to reward people for being here illegally.
- He has led to the rise of the Tea Party. Can't blame him too much for that, because their rise would have been expected during any (Democratic) black president administration.
- Has done nothing to advance nuclear power in this country.
>obamacare sucks because republicans gutted it
yeh. it sucks. but seriously, did you just blame him for republicans not letting a good version in? thats fucked m8.
oh for fucks sake. who cares. it's moving forward and he isn't obstructing it, which is making it happen faster than if he stepped in
>dream act was shit
yup. it was 30 years ago when we "did it for the last time" as well. agreed.
>responsible for tea party
emerged in 2009... literally when he took office. like you said, can't blame him for that.
yeh.. he's pushing more green. either way. shit power policy. agreed.
2/10 started a war on cops, war on the second amendment, added 10 trillion dollars in debt, sucking muslim cock all around the world, and now forcing transgender bullshit on our schools
one of the worst presidents in history
He took too much shit from the republitards his first term, but making up for it some in the second term. Just think how great our country would be today if the republicans actually cared about making the country and economy better and not just trying (and failing) to make Obama look bad.
>mandatory health care. if you don't sign up, you pay a penalty
>I go to get signed up.
>LITERALLY cannot afford the cheapest plan, but I make too much to sign up for medicaid (just barely...like right at the cutoff)
>have to pay a penalty every year
that's a 1 for that nigger
>His administration decisions directly destabilized the Middle East and is wholly responsible for the creation of ISIS.
u wot m8? Not sure if trolling or complete mongoloid.
Thank good ole G.W. Bush for ISIS. Once he Saddam there was no one left to keep the rag heads in line and ISIS was born.
ITT: a bunch of people argue about shit they have no clue about. Becomes a huge pissing match. In reality, your views of Obama are mostly influences by how you grew up and what brand of propaganda you prescribe to.
In reality, unless youre a grad school scholar of government or an employer, you have no idea what you're talking about and i think we can safely assume noone here fits either catagory.
>he did create lots of jobs
>record unnemployment in US
Do you even statistics?
Blame the prime monkey for what the other apes keep doing why don't you.
Did fairly incredible, considering he had to make due with a bigot riddle congress. I mean, can Republicans at least vote for the least crazy candidate? One that speaks for you, but not so radically. I think White American Males are the most Radical terrorists. Dope kickflip.
this dumbass doubled the debt. He spent more than all past presidents combined. Not that race has anything to do with your actual value, the media only loves him because he's black. If he was white and did everything exactly the same he wouldn't have half the fans. e probably wouldn't have gotten into office. He was a shit tier president. at best he's a 3/10. I'm gonna say he's a 2.
>And we all know that ISIS popped up right after the invasion in 2003
yes we do.
In short, the group emerged from an extremist faction originally founded in 1999 that started to gain traction after the 2003 Iraqi invasion led by the U.S. (read Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant on Wikipedia for more detail).
This is what I don't get about conservatives... If you have more than someone else and you can do something that doesn't affect you that much to make a great positive impact on another's life, why wouldn't you? What is with all this selfishness?
the country is more divided now than any time after the civilwar. Unemployment is almost as high as the depression. 30% then, edging 25% now. (and that is REAL numbers as opposed to the 5% still able to request unemployment benefits.) More people are finding that they cannot afford the "affordable healthcare" then before that debacle got passed. Our allies don't trust us and our detractors laugh because we're doing their job for them. All in all, he's a fucking traitor, a cuck, and a trap.
you are clearly not that intelligent. Any president who had inherited what Bush left would've increased the debt. It's no question.
Obama brought our economy back to a point in 7 years that pundits and analysts thought would take well over 10 years.
D-Day was 71 years ago, let it go already.
Like yeah it's important to remember what happened and to honor the invasion which was instrumental to ending WW2 but it was so fucking long ago.
John Miller 2016!
This is true but it isnt fun to acknowledge this fact.
Therefore, fuck all the haters. Obama was one of the most level headed statesman to ever grace the White House. Other countries respected him. He opened dialogue with nations we havent reached out to in decades. His speech at the UN earlier this year was a work of art (bet you trailer trash conservatives didnt wat h that did you?). His final state of the union will be printed in history books for the revolutionary digression from regular party politics and shedding light on corruption, pleading to get money out of politics. He warned us that this blatent corruption would eventualky lead us to a disasterous breaking point where someone like trump would get elected.
Ten out of fuckin ten faggots.
I think you are legitimately retarded. How was he the biggest disaster to foreign policy? If we needed it most at the time, then doesnt that mean that whoever came before him did an even worse job?? Fucking use what little brain you have.
not sure if trolling or slack-jawed fox nooz drooler.
>implying you are any different
mfw amerifags think they know shit about what's going on in their country
>Weak foreign policy
>worst economic recovery in a century
>Obamacare is a failure
>race relations have gotten worse
>middle class has almost disappeared
>shrunk the size of the military
>added more debt in 7.5 years than all other Presidents combined
yeah it's purely coincidence the economy does better under democrats. The republicans just have bad luck, right?
>Between 1944 and 2014 — a span of 70 years — four U.S. presidents have attended D-Day memorial ceremonies a total of seven times, and Barack Obama attended two of the seven.
even little Donnie knows the truth
history will look favourably on him for fixing the mess bush made of the global economy and his step towards universal healthcare. he was also progressive on social issues which is popular.
he was however no different from a republican in terms of civil liberty curtailment, though he did also try to close guantanemo.
race still is an issue , given the amount of obstruction he faced.....7.5/10.
better than Clinton but no Kennedy..... better than any republican president since the second world war
2. He continued pretty much all of Bush's policies, didn't keep any of his promises, and didn't pass any new beneficial legislation. The country is worse off now than it was before him.
Clinton: 6/10 he got lucky with a great economy but he was always in some sort of scandal. HE handled business though.
Bush jr: 4/10 we got hit hard during his time in office. he helped to fuck up the economy big time. On the plus side I don't think he was totally evil.
Obama: 6/10 His low score isn't entirely his fault. Never saw the opposing party push back so hard against a president. I feel he could have push back a lot more himself. he helped raise our rep with the rest of the world.
I'm a democrat btw. and black
Bullshit. The DEMAND for guns has made the prices skyrocket. And why is demand going up? Because republicans are whipping gullible retards into a frenzy about the gubment comin to yer guns!
where do you people even get that bullshit people hate niggers because of their skin colour, it's always the "content of their character" and the skin colour, and general appearance are the the indicators of that certain "content of their character"
well given the fact that the entire system is rigged in a way that is inherently immoral and parasitic ....id give the very best modern U.S president a 4 for not killing us all immediately.
but relative to each other,.
Clinton 7/10, the lewinski thing was irrelevant and a bullshit distraction.
Bush.....its hard to say, the amount of damage he did...its still about 20 years too early to tell.
Obama, somehow managed to fix the economy, the next president will have a sweet first term domestically as that will still all be under obama policy , it takes time to change system if they do decide to fuck it up.
he was too militaristic but I would imagine that was just politics to try to win over republicans
I can't speak for "my people". I started to like the man during his sex scandal. When I heard he was getting a BJ while on the phone with a governor and still handling business I thought "now that's commitment to a job!".
why do inbreds vote republican against their own best interests?
just another one of the great mysteries of the world.
so when jobs are created its because of economic fluctuation but when jobs are lost, "that damn obama".
retards like you are why this country is about to elect a reality star.
Obama was a good president and history will absolutely tell this story. Many historians who measure and rate presidencies have already come out and said this. It is about statistics, not how you feel about a president.
Well every black person I know believe Hillary is our best bet. They don't love her but they know she won't act against our interests. Bernie promises a lot of shit he'd never be able to do. contrary to popular belief all black people aren't looking for "free shit". I know a few black republicans and they are scared shitless of Trump.
You better lower Clinton's score. He was a shit president. He helped in enacting NAFTA and the removal of the Glass Stegall, both things which fucked this country.
Obama should have a lower score for signing Citizens United.
dont bother... anyone who doesnt understand that a magna cum laude graduate from harvard is very clearly an athiest (who has to pretend to be christian to appease the masses) is simply retarded and shouldnt even be acknowledged
Bernie supporter here. No, even without super delegates he's in a pretty bad hole. I haven't given up all hope but his chances of a majority of pledged delegates are grim. Best shot is convincing a contested convention that he's the only candidate who can stump Trump. The contested convention is all but guaranteed at this point but the more ground Bernie can make up in the meantime the stronger his case.
Most people are unaware but Joseph Dunford is now in charge. Obama has been demoted to presidential spokesperson.
I'm from the UK and my impression of Obama is overwhelmingly positive.
What he could change he did. Unfortunately the obstructionism from Republican congress meant measures were often halved, stalled or never delivered.
I mean, compare him to the disaster that was Bush, and the probable disaster that would be Trump, or even H. Clinton - Sanders is unlikely... I think a lot of people will look back at Obama's time in office and realise what a high class, credible and intelligent president they had.
And he's using his last months in office to improve relations with Iran, Cuba, Japan... I wish we had Obama as Prime Minister.
That's what the US military creates: killing machines, complete with automated responses to a set of prompts possible in a war zone. They're certainly not asked to carry out independent thoight.
I don't think blacks want free shit. It was a serious question, I wasn't memeing. I grew up in Alabama around as many lazy ass white rednecks on the dole as there were blacks.