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Should i upgrade to Windows 10?
i have 7 and i have never used 8 or 8.1
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nope
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>>684258473
ok. What's the number 1 thing you want your os to do? Look flashy? no. New features you're never gonna use? nope. All your os should do is be stable and not prevent you from doing whatever the fuck you wanna do.
Also it's free. Things aren't free.

So yeah if you wanna be an unpaid beta tester go right fucking ahead.-
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>>684258473
if you're not concerned about privacy then switch.
I used win 7 at home and win 10 at work.
It feels like a superficial change of UI. Everything else under the hood seems to work the same.

People got pissed about the forced updates but I didn't encounter that, maybe we got different version at work (I think you can forced updates off in Enterprise edition)
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Only if you don't mind Microsoft owning your life.
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>>684258995
i mostly game
>>684259103
>privacy
so is it easier for them to detect piracy?
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If you think direct X is important then yes absolutely upgrade. Turn all the bullshit spying stuff off which is easy to do
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>>684259242
I only read rumors. But they seem to have a clause in their EULA where they say they'll phone home details about your files, your searches, etc.
Could be that they detect piracy. Wouldn't put it past them.
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>windows 10
Enjoy your botnet
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>>684259414
>thinking you can stop windows from calling home

stay at 7
dualboot debian, mint, ubuntu or a similar distribution
use microshit for gaming and linux for everything else
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>>684259103
>It feels like a superficial change of UI. Everything else under the hood seems to work the same.


This, I've no clue why I upgraded, since everything is pretty much the same, with the exception of a few features I never will use it is completely pointless
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>>684258473
install gentoo instead
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All the functions that Microsoft use to collect data about you are present in windows 7, 8 and 8.1.

I think it's pretty good. Only problem is some slight driver problems but nothing that wasn't fixable.
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>>684259527
They do indeed have that clause in their EULA.
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>>684258473
Im torn op.

For one, the whole NSA SPY TOOL RAH RAH thing, whatever. Who gives a shit. They want into your shit, it doesnt matter what OS you use.

To be honest. Ive used every version of windows since 3.11, including weird or obscure builds, like CE for microwaves and shit like that.

and sadly, I quite like win 10. Its clean, you can do everything within a couple of clicks, or straight out of the start bar.

Forever and a day, it used to be about the desktop. OH GOD I MUST KEEP MY LEGACY DESKTOP.

I barely even look at the desktop anymore. The shortcuts dropped there are usually just default on install that I cbf deleting.

I guess im a convert.

Or the weird NSA brain rays they push through it have gotten to me.

Either way, I find it works, its fucking fast, and seems pretty damn polished.
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>>684258473
>Should i downgrade to Windows 10

Fixed it for you
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>yfw im still on win XP sp3
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>>684258473
download winxp black edition from thepiratebay
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>>684260313
MINUS 10 POINTS FOR EDGE THOUGH.

Forgot to mention that.

Edge looks pretty. Until you open more than two tabs and it comes grinding to a halt.

I have 32gb of ram and edge can still cause my box to drag its ass like a potato.
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>>684260405
enjoy being more open and exposed than a 2 dollar hooker, anon.
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>>684259884
>>684259922
>>684259103


You guys are actually way too tin-foil with your privacy concerns.

I work at Microsoft.
Windows 10 (and pretty much all Microsoft products) phone home with ANONYMISED DATA such as the following:

How long did "generic_action_X" (think opening the start bar) take, what part of the process was slow? [Used for improving performance in future fixes]

When the user searches, do they then click on a result? (no search terms, only metadata about query length and click/ranking positions) [Used to evaluate Cortana/test if tweaks improve or degrade her performance]

What sort of hardware does the user have [Used to prioritise fixes/performance tweaks and you can estimate how many devices will be affected]

It's impossible to track anything about a particular user, it's collapsed into a meaningless ID so you can identify a session, but with no way to actually work out who that is.
Anything that could be used to identify a user or what programs they are using is forbidden to track.

Also, I worked many places before MS. If you think any big company (Google/Amazon/Apple/...) isn't doing this, you're a fool.
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>>684258473
Wait for around another year or 2. I've had to sort out a lot of old people's PC's that have upgraded and there is so much to do to set it up to A) not spy on everything you do and B) stop it advertising everywhere and C)remove all the pointless bloatware shitty apps.
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Which linux distribution should i use? What are the differences between them?
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>>684260313
Look even if you dont care about them looking at your shit, the act of looking at your shit takes away processing power and slows down your PC. If you game/video edit you don't want this shit.
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>>684260625
>yfw i dont even have antivirus. Just Malware bytes which i run just everyonce in a while.
It uses resources as fuk

what do?
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>>684260867
dude. You use want to use linux? Have fuckin fun, you sheeple NSA cuck.

Its all about unix bro. Gimme code or gimme death.
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No, I'd say.

The problem with Windows 10 is that it's basically shit in every way that counts.

Stable? No.
Secure? No.
Has adequate privacy policy? No.

Also, what you are referring to as 'Windows 10' is actually 'Windows 10 + NSA'.
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/g/ here.
10 offers nothing which 7 can't do.
Don't "Upgrade" for some nsa shit.

If you want a new OS, fool around with Linux a Bit (mint, Ubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu).
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>>684258473
No. Stay in the past and die you stone age mother fucker
Anyone who denies progress should be lined up and shot
Great men pull your reluctant ass to the full potential of humanity
You dither, your weak parasite ass feeding off the sweat of the producers
And you dare ask should I?
You March forward because we need to
You miserable fuck
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>>684261186
so u say 7 is the best windows version?
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>>684260971
uhh, this is my gaming rig as well. Its not struggled with a thing. and im only running two 770 gtx sli with some good ram.

Id agree with you, if you werent wrong.

Most games make little to no use of multiple threaded cores.

All that lookup shit? spread over 8 cores.

You arent going to notice cortana looking at your porn collection while your minecrafting made.
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>>684261061
Dude. Just asked a question. Go someplace else with your autism
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>>684261087
>implying he's worthy for the nsa to spy on
>"OH no! They'll know I pirated adobe, downloaded the fappening and have nothing of value to say"
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Windows 10 LTSB masterrace!

No but seriously, upgraded from windows 7 to windows 10 pro but got really angry about all the crap that crep into my pc along with the upgrade.
All these modern apps are completely useless mobile ports that should not be used on anything that have more processing power than your phone.

Wiped my computer and installed Windows 10 LTSB which is basically Windows 7.1 with a bit more modern UI. No modern apps at all (nice), but no native picture viewer because windows photo viewer is now an app (not nice). [Install Pictus which I found better anyways]

I sort of like it but had to install some fixes to the more retared features of windows explorer... WHO THE FUCK THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE THE DETAILS PANE ON THE ENTIRE RIGHT HAND SIDE???
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>>684260840
How does waiting help?
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>>684261384
if you need to ask what build, then youre not going to be successfully using linux. Just stick to Babbys first OS.
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>>684261211
you're retardary made me chuckle
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>>684261272
I didn't say that.
I said there is nothing worth leaving 7 for.
8 is a shit tablet OS
8.1 is a tablet OS with a nicer gui
10 is some serious nsa shit and you get nothing in return.

7 is still fine
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>>684260994
>>684260405
same,i use some portable antiviruses that dont have real time scanner
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>>684260827
Theres such a thing as oversaturation too.

The point of where so much data becomes completely overwhelming and ambiguous. Even if it could be archived, databased and kept. It would be hammered.

Every second, of every day, for whats a standard shelf life of an OS, 5 years?

Yeah, good luck making a meaningful interpretation out of that mess.

Youd have to be rainman even to link up a certain event at a certain time.
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>>684261543
A ton of stuff isnt compatible, especially older games.
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On lower end PCs windows 10 is beast, it's just a lighter, prettier version of windows 7.

If your worried about privacy install Ubuntu and then remove wireless adapters and ethernet cables. But something tells me you won't.
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>>684262187
jokes on you I'm sending this post via smoke signs.
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>>684262151
I haven't found an incompatible game yet. And my games library stretches back to about 1985.
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>>684262338
YOU FOOL.

DONT YOU KNOW THAT THE NSA HAS ATMOSPHERIC PROCESSORS THAT CAPTURE THAT SMOKE FOR DECRYPTION LATER ON?!
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>>684261320
I'd consider it on my desktop but I wouldnt be happy, knowing it's doing shit in the background that isnt essential. Laptop, no fucking way. I guess expensive gaming laptop but say I have a 600 laptop for travelling and it struggles already with new games.
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>>684262107
which are those?
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>>684258557
/thread
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>>684261976
which is the best windows version in ur opinion
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>>684261404
Why don't you dick breaths understand the stupidity in this argument. By your logic, let's go a step ahead and have the government install cameras in everyone's house. You shouldn't complain since clearly you won't be "worthy for the NSA to spy on." Fucking cunt faced dweeb.
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>>684262338
Nah bro the feds see that shit for miles. You have to dig a tunnel to where you need to message and then fly a messager pigeon down it. It's the only way.
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>>684262624
7
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>>684258473
hell fuck no
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>>684261272
XP, now Im a macfag
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>>684262521
I dig it, like I said, I come from a long line of windows usage.

I get the ending every non essential task mentality, modifying your startup, using lighter or cut down versions of programs etc.

But in reality, the overhead is that low, its hardly perceptible.

Maybe ive just lost my care.

But the reality is, it does not matter what you run, or how tight you lock it down, if its on the internet, it has to be considered open.

The gubmint really doesnt care. Unless youre brown skinned and like non christian religions.
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>>684260867
I can only lose, whichever answer I give you someone will call bullshit on me and tell you their option is the superior choise, but here I go:

I've used the two big mainstream options Ubuntu and Linux Mint, but I've also tried the extremely tinu LXLE.

They are all quite easy to use after getting to know them. I would probably recommend Mint as your first switch from windows to a linux enviroment.

My biggest recommendation is however, to learn how to use the terminal as it will solve any and ll problems you will ever have.
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>>684262574

Comodo Cleaning Essentials and Emsisoft Emergency Toolkit
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>>684261674
Go fuck your clunt mouth. Fucking faggot thinks he's a special snowflake for using Linux. Cuckwhore
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>>684258473

Why do they call it Windows 10?

Because when you see it you turn 10 degrees, pull down your trousers and slap your knees as fast as you can.
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I'm a big time supporter of windows 10 but I'm using 7 right now because my CPU isn't compatible with windows 10.
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>>684262145
>Theres such a thing as oversaturation too.
Typically different teams look at different metrics.
There's 100k + engineers, everyone has a piece of the pie to improve.

> Every second, of every day, for whats a standard shelf life of an OS, 5 years?
Win10 and web apps are continuously updated, you look at the last week or month and draw conclusions from that.

> Youd have to be rainman even to link up a certain event at a certain time.

You aren't looking at individual events, you are looking for trends that affect significant segments of the user-base.
I diagnose issues in other people's code in this way and drive improvements on a daily basis, it's really not that difficult once you have a good framework built up.
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>>684262668
no, its more that, your going to be spied on, no matter what you run/install/do.

Anything you can do, they can do better.

If they want to spy on you, it shall be done. Regardless of your opinion or thought.

Why struggle. It just makes the ass rape worse.
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>>684258473
DO NOT DO IT.
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>>684262145
They don't need to worry about processing if they can store everything. And storage is cheap. Processing can always come later.
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>>684262881
Wut? How old is your computer?
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>>684262624
7 with Service pack 2, Updates turned off
The common vir/g/in would banter you installing no antivirus at all, but i would suggest getting Kaspersky 2016 for 10€/$ from ebay.
Thats enough for safety.
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>>684262865
Thanks, will look at it
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>>684263035
Because every change in the past hasn't come from lying down and taking it like your cuck mouth advises.
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>>684262915
So by that standard, they are using the metrics to design and deploy better products? THE CHEEKY DEVILS.

When it comes to archiving all your shit, your web history and safety concerns, what info is going to be gleaned from a machine that the top tier, google, facebook etc internet provider history isnt going to be able to provide first, legally, apart from the hard evidence.

Im not saying it doesnt exsist. Im just saying that its pointless to imply that its just there purely to spy on you, because it would be meaningless and incomprehensible at a single user level.
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>>684263176
Actually not that old. I was using 10 with a dual core pentium but when I got a duo for free and put it in I realised duos don't work with anything past 7.
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you guys realize that microsoft patched the same privacy invading stuff that they are doing with windows 10 into windows 7 months ago, right? if you have an updated windows 7 they are happily collecting all your data.
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>>684263373
lol

okay, peasant, stop sharpening your plowshare and get this as a concept.

You and your megre resistance.... calling me a cuck? really? jesus. But anyway, you and basically nobody alone has ever stopped anything from occurring, other than in anyway that some elite tier have wanted it.
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>>684263597
no.
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>>684263576
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMPeTrHNX1U
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>>684263608
You sound like exactly the type of person these "elite tiers" would dream of ruling. North Korea Ned's more people of your kind. Enjoy living life like the loser cunt faced cuck that you are.
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>>684263464
Are you 100% sure?
Wasn't there some bug that made the upgrade program think you had an incompatible CPU or something... Do some googling and se if it is really incompatible and not just some wrong settings in your BIOS.
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>>684263464
dude.... the last duo revision was like 4th quarter 07, first quarter 08.

Thats very nearly a decade ago.

Your computer is old. how long does that bootup take?
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>>684263383

Exactly, finally an anon with a shred of common sense.

I tried convincing people of this but I gave up because everyone assumes it's shilling, even though it's the truth.
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>>684264163
ha I think people lose track of time. I've had mine for about 3 years and I know it's getting old.
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>>684263869
haha yes yes, im the overlorded, part of the abused and suffering class that has no say, no control of their fate, or no way to know what is being decided for me.

I know this and accept this. Because, there is fuck all I can do to change that. I chose not to resist, because I can conserve my energy to resist when it actually counts.

The difference between me and you is, you somehow mistakenly believe you live outside this system?

Welcome to the ruling class. You or I are not apart of it. Get used to it. Itll hurt less once your working and paying off that mortgage and no longer concerned for such trivial shit.
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So guys, going back to OPs question (since I too am in the same boat), is upgrading to windows 10 from 7 worth it? Is gaming good, what about wacom tablets? Pirated software?
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>>684264311
I just see it as a pointless struggle.

Sure. I dont like it.
Sure. They collect my info.
Sure. I can resist. And make the inevitable smackdown harder.

But there is literally no point.

You cant protect yourself.
You cant cover your tracks.
You cant hide.
They have all your info and wrong doings, all in a nice neat little package before they even collect your machine. Picking up the physical box is the last move now days.

Who cares. Rights went out the window a long time ago.

Might as well just enjoy the ride and get me a shiny new start bar while im at it.
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>>684258473
Owner of a computer repair company here:

If you game or only use the internet/don't care about computers, yes.

If you use your computer to do work (Quickbooks, AutoCAD, PhotoShop, etc) or generally need it to do productive things, no.

You really will not get benefit from Win 10 YET until about 1st quarter of 2017 when everything is ironed out. I would make sure you hit "reserve" before June/july so you still get it for free, but you don't really want/need it unless you also have a windows phone/tablet/xbox for device integration.

By 2017, the apps will be up to date and the new phones will be out and then yes, definitely upgrade.
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>>684260526
Edge is an extremely efficient and lightning fast way to download chrome or firefox.
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>>684265010
Topshelf kek.
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>>684260827
Seriously. The data mining in 10 is at worst the same shit that your android or iphone does and you have WAAAAAAAY more info on that thing for it to mine.

Cell phones are absolutely terrifying if you ask me. You can't even see the fucking file system or how the apps interact. Plus with all the sensors and cameras, if they had legs they would walk away.

Your PC having a talking search bar is the absolute least of your privacy concerns.
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>>684258473
yes
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>>684265263
Complains in excess about security & privacy concerns for an OS who is continually tying to improve their product.

>uses iphone, google, facebook, maps, and any other flavor of the month datamine app.

Keep ragin against that machine, bro.
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>>684265010
It's pretty clear to me that edge is 100% geared towards security and not functionality.

It doesn't support addons, it doesn't run under the administrator account, you can't set a home page automatically, it doesn't support any of the native IE settings, the whole registry block is completely new...

Clearly it's meant for virus protection/to handle digital signatures. That's really what it's for.
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>>684264494
You're a cuckhold talker. Listing to cucks like you makes me thirsty and hungry. If any more words come pouring out your cuck mouth, I'll have to eat all the fucking chicken in my fridge.

Seriously though, are you of the negro descent by any chance? Because that would help me understand your willingness to be able to just lay dow, shut your cunt mouth, and take in the ass from the ruling class.
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>>684265555

>sheeeit
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>>684265542
Where did I complain about 10's security and privacy?

Incidentally, I have a windows phone, I don't use facebook, and the gps is disabled in my phone....so....not sure what you're talking about.
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>>684265643
Do you project much, mate? Or are you just summer.

Tell me what your doing, aside from not using windows 10, to throw a spanner in the gears and cogs of The Machine TM.

Go back to thumping your chest, little man. If you want to be a martyr, I'll gladly point you out when the revolution comes.
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>>684265643
I fucking hate the fucking autocorrect on this cunt of a phone. Go duck yourself in the ass Google
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>>684265752
wrong reply, sall good lil homie.
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>>684265945
lol..... did ........ did you just attack me about my lack of concern of privacy, on a fucking google phone?

this is like some kind of summer overload. Summerception.
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>>684258473
I have to use Cisco VPN to telecommute. It doesn't function on Windows 10. So no, I am not about to "upgrade."
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>>684264763
Bump
Can one of you PCucks answer my question instead of arguing over shitty NSA bullcrap. Its gonna update for me tomorrow and I need to know right fucking now whether or not to cancel schedule or prolong it or just accept it
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FUCK NO.
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>>684266153
because your using an end of life product to connect.

Cisco any connect is the preferred client for all your cisco'ing needs.
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>>684266265
Whats your machine specs?

And not argue about the NSA in a win10 thread? Nah mate, not gunna happen.
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>>684258473
yes
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Test
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>>684266432
Premade (shoot me)
I7 Intel
Radeon graphics
4gb ram (upgrading soon)
Pretty much the gist of it
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>>684258473
8.1 is leagues better than 7
10 is improving on 8.1 again

absolutely, go ahead.
unless you're still concerned about microsoft using your diagnostic data, can't help you there.
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>>684265929
Sadly I'm doing nothing. I use Windows 10, Android, Facebook, and all the other tools of your overlords. I just get into these arguments on the internet to convince myself that I'm sticking it to the man somehow. But the truth is, I know we've already lost because of people like you. So I have given up, just like you. You got me buddy.

Sadly, I will live a life just like yours. Working my whole life to pay off a mortgage I can't afford with a wife I don't love for a retirement where I'm too weak to do anything other than swallow a thousand pills the big pharmas recommend so I can make my misery last a few years longer.
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>>684266584
Upgrade. Youll get it for free and regardless of what these knobs say, your going to be less secure without it the longer time goes on.

imo, is not too bad anyway.
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Well, my pc decided it would just update without me fucking telling it to, so that's fun
I fixed the privacy stuff, but is this worth keeping?
I like w7 interface a lot, but if w10 makes my pc run faster ill keep it
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>>684258473
windows 7 wasn't perfect, but perfectly usable. win 8.1 brought a lot of performance and stability improvements, especially if you use an SSD for your OS. it also brought a slight change in the user interface, a change that is currently still being improved and balanced.

if you hate the new interface so much, that performance stops mattering to you, stick with win7
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>>684266757
How exactly does one go about"fixing" the privacy stuff? Upgraded last week, genuinely interested.
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>>684266716
Ok thanks man. Last question, is the upgrade going to delete any files on computer? What if I don't like win10 and downgrade, are my files safe? Got a lot of old stuff and I'm too poor of a fag to get storage or decent upload speed
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>>684266593
No, you numpty. You just need to know who your taking on before you spew shit with viterol.

Im actually an active campaigner for free rights, and keep tend to keep up to date on anything relating to security.

I also happen to know when im beat. The war was lost a long time ago. There is no way to change what we have now, here at this time.

Save your energy, and your loud mouth for when they actually take your rights physically away.
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>>684266909
oh you just go into the privacy settings and turn pretty much all the options off
this is the page that told me what to do https://www.yahoo.com/tech/how-to-keep-windows-10-from-spying-on-you-125730399429.html
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>>684266941
The roll back if you dont like it is quite smooth.

Everything is kept, and its not hard to flip back at all.
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>>684267135
Thanks again, I'll let it upgrade tomorrow and take your word that its good
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>>684266941
rather than upgrading a really old installation with lots of tools and drivers on it, i'd set up your windows fresh and do the upgrade rigth afterwards.

the more old shit is on your windows, the higher the risk it breaks during the upgrade.
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>>684267090
I've always wondered about this, if all it takes is flipping a software button (that these sniveling cunts put there, in the first place), how do we actually know it's effective? I mean, it could just be a button programmed to turn from right to left when you click it. What's to tell if it's actually doing anything?
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>>684266265
I did....

>>684264851


Also what he said:

>>684267135

As long as you don't fuck up the upgrade or you don't have any weird issues with your computer you can just uninstall the upgrade if you don't like it within 30 days.

UNINSTALL YOUR ANTIVIRUS BEFORE YOU UPGRADE!
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>>684267502
which, is pretty damn difficult to do when downloading and setting it up, online.

Its not an iso, its an active upgrade.
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>>684267689
just run all the updates on your old windows and the 10 upgrade should pop up immediately.
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>>684258473
I'd set up a VM first and test it to see if it's compatible, you like it, etc. Testing it now at work to see if we can roll it out. There are several issues if you're in an enterprise environment, but it should be fine for most home users.
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>>684267568
you can never be sure anon, they're always trying to watch you

don't be a paranoid fart head, they said it's just to make it a better experience but if you really don't want it you can opt out
they would be in a bunch of shit if it was really that bad
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>>684267838
oh righto, sorry, didnt read the reinstall old first.

Yeah, i mean, itd be cleaner... I guess. Less easy to roll back to what you had though
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>>684258473
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NEVER !!! NEVER DUDE, N-E-V-E-R !!! THE FUCKIN GOVERNMENT IS TRACKING EVERY USER OF 10, EVERY STEP IN THE WEB, EVERY CLICK OF THE MOUSE! DO NOT UPGRADE IT EVER! JUST IGNORE THE MESSAGE AND IF SOMETHING GO WRONG - REINSTALL THE 7 !!!
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honestly I would say stick with 7 unless you like being able to talk to your computer. Windows 10 is a resource hog it uses 50% of your cpu just to run.
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>>684267612
I cant quite remember, but it does warn you (and attempts to stop) any AV process on install doesnt it? Just be a handy thing to remember.
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>>684268276
>being this new
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>>684268292
What are you running? A P100 MMX chip or something?
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>>684258473
Ten is cancer.
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>>684268122
i don't know about you, but refreshing a windows install is a reguklar thing for me anyway. the system collects horrible amounts of crud while you're using it. good to have a fresh start every 2 years or so.

it's also the best opportunity to consolidate your files and improve your backup system.
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>>684268292
>Windows 10 is a resource hog it uses 50% of your cpu just to run.

legacy users can't have an opinion on what's best for modern hardware.
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All you idiots harping to stay on 7 don't realize that the tracking shit was/is now on 7 via windows update already. Best voice is to migrate to 10 and just fucking deal with it if you want to stay on windows. Otherwise move to Linux and shut the fuck up.
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>>684267010
You foolish little man. You try so hard to pass as some enlightened post-modern coward who is secretly saving his bravado for another day. What day is that? When they take your physical rights? You fool, for all your claimed intellect, you've been blinded by the people you so readily welcome to anally rape you.

Don't you get it, the old days of physically taking your rights are gone. The face of modern fascism is one that appears to be a democracy on the surface, yet functions like a fascism in all other aspect. You say to save our energy because we have the illusion of free speech, religious choice, and voting rights? I say your physical rights have already been captured digitally by the creation of such agencies like the NSA, CIA, and DoD.

Stop hibernating for a day that will never come, instead get up and fight now. But I suppose my words land on a coward who has convinced himself that he is simply saving his energy for an easier day.
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>>684258473
yes, just disable spying and u r good to go
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>>684268292
See that spike?

That spike was caused by me noticing your retardness.
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>>684268606
I dont disagree, i tend to go clean install always, for those exact reasons. but guy did mention he wanted the option to roll back, without copying shit off, is all.
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>>684268488
It has nothing to do with it, I don't want to have to use a super computer to run a shitty os. They really out did themselves I went through and tried to disable all their preinstalled crap did the regedit fixes it just seems like a alot of bullshit when I can just install windows 7 64bit and have a functioning computer i can control. All those government services made to track you is pretty much slowing my computer down to a slug sorry government im using windows 7.
https://youtu.be/3rE-uHxvsNQ
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>>684268815
Did it seriously take you this long to type that up?

All those rights you mentioned, are gone. have long gone and will never be back, because 10 billion + brainwashed idiots giving those rights away.

I cannot change this.

You cannot change this.

Struggle all you like. Youre just wearing yourself out, you wont have the energy to fight WHEN YOU CAN ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
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>>684268868
You fucking nigher, how can you insult me. Fucking cunt faced bitch, come say it to my face.
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>>684258473
Don't fucking do it. Windows 10 is shit.
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>>684268977
fair enough. i hope we've made him aware of the risks in upgrading an old system.

microsoft is being a dick with the psychological "upgrade marketing" they're doing. working at an SaaS company myself, though, i have full understanding for their moves.
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>>684258473
I'm just an average user, but here is what I think about windows 10.

Its a nice OS. Boots up nicely fast, has a good bunch of on-board features.
I also yet have to find one of my old programs that I used on Windows 7 / 8 that is not compatible with Win 10.

If you're concerned about unnecessary standard programs or the spying stuff, I can strongly recommend this tool: http://dws.wzor.net/ (if you don't want to click that shit, simply google destroy windows 10 spying).

If you're still scared about your data information being stolen, sure, stay with Windows 7 or whatever you're currently using. They're fine too.

TL;DR Windows 10 is light and comfy. No reason for the >average< user to not use it.
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>>684269038
500$ pcs can run it without your mentioned issue, those are not "super computers"

please have a professional IT guy look at your machine and give you some recommendations, it seems to be in a state of failure
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>>684269162
lol
salty much?

Ill do as I please, you potato.
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>>684258473

I just recently set it up for my dad who's windows 7 computer just died. I did NOT notice a performance upgrade at all. If anything it seems more clunky than his 6 year old windows 7 desktop. Just the simple task of navigating and moving around the files for him was very awkward and I'm still not use to it. When I tried to set certain restrictions on it to prevent him from giving himself a virus it literally would not ALLOW me to access the policy editor to accomplish this. He is also upset with the fact that it updates automatically and there's nothing I can do to prevent this. It's at that point I realized how fucked I'm going to be when I eventually have to use this piece of shit OS.

tldr: I gave it a fighting chance and it sucked. So I'll be rocking Windows 7 for as long as possible.
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>>684269155
You seem convinced that there is some better day in the future where we will all magically find our voice and fight back. How ironic that you are exactly part of those "brainwashed idiots" letting it happen in the first place.
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>>684258473
Yes
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>>684269500
1v1 me on Windows skillz bitch. I swear on me mum I'll knobber ye jimmies until the wobbly bits Weber rash Google in fishy attached
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>>684269038
And just to reiterate..... all those GUVMENT TRACKING SPY TOOLS..... those are actually the companies you use, and legally agreed to give your rights to.

Facebook, google, your internet provider. Those are the first places they look when they are tracking you.

Not your endpoint PC. Why do that, that would actively be ILLEGAL.

You signed a waiver saying they can look at the rest legally. Regardless of your operating system.
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>>684269465
I am an it guy and a linux user, I am not paying some idiot to look at my machine and say oh the ram is failing duh.... fuck the government fuck windows 10 and fuck Microsoft and have more cats. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s8SU1mLhYU
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>>684269761
try an SSD upgrade. costs next to nothing these days and it can let old hardware fly again.
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>>684269973
I started my "internet journey" early bird 90s, on my maelstrom 2400 baud modem.

I guarantee you know sweet fuck all, little boy.

But do go on.
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>>684270035
Cannot stress this enough.
SSD access speeds improve hardware response times dramatically.
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>>684270169
I invented windows nt bitch. I fucking made clippy, and he made you cucks his bitch.
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>>684270309
It also makes it easier for the NSA to peruse your files. Win win!
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>>684258473

Eventually you are going to need to upgrade. Microsoft will stop support for Windows 7. Than you will leave yourself vulnerable to viruses. It's best you upgrade within the next few years. You don't need to upgrade now.
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>>684270398
Why did you cancel longhorn. You ruined the beautiful legacy NT 4 left.
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>>684270309
Here's what 100% of all people think after an SSD upgrade:

>Why in gods name didn't i get an SSD earlier!?
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>>684270499
The NSA are going to peruse your files, no matter your hardware!

Double Kill.
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>>684270529
Viruses are fake. They were created by microsoft to scare people into upgrading to their latest OS to allow NSA to access your files more easily.
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>>684270683
My first experience with an SSD went something like this:

Righto, time to install windows, time to get that coffee and settle in for the usual fourty minut.... what the fuck, its rebooting.

Jesus that was a fast post install reboot.

JESUS... ITS DONE. I didnt even get to the bottom of my coffee.
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if you use your pc for gaming then yes, better performance. if you dont then fuck no
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>>684270683
SSD's have gotten so cheap that I replace every customer hard drive that fails with an SSD. It's getting difficult for me to use computers that DON'T have SSDs.

"WHY IS THIS COMPUTER SO FUCKING SLOW?!"
>no SSD
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>>684270529
linux supports steam and emulation no reason to put up with the nsas advances to discover everything we do on the web.
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>>684270606
First of all, it's called Windows Vista. Only the brown skinned curry fags down at engineering call it 'longhorn.' And I cancelled it because the OS was too advanced for the average Americunt. We had to dumb it down so fuckers like you didn't kill yourself over having to manually update your drivers rather than having the OS do it for you like a little cuck.
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>>684270844
i know, right? windows install time used to be perfect for a small joint and chill. now i'm picking through a ten thousand options, blinking, high as fuck.
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>>684270976
again. End point computer is the last link in the chain.

Your data is taken from all the levels above.

The ones youve legally signed your rights away on and they can easily access, with no challenges of authority.
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>>684270911
Yar, I usually get two, one for operating system, one for everything else.
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>>684271119
he slipped up

go for the kill
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>>684271174
what if you don't have any links in your chain? I dont have a facebook instragram or snapchat. I am completely off the grid.
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>>684270844
Nice try on the social marketing. I can smell a paid Hitachi shill from a mile away. Good thing trump is gonna build a wall across the Pacific and bring back our jobs from China. Your days are numbered
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Win 10 is bretty gud.
People should use total Commander anyway. No need to cry about the 'tablet ui'.
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>>684271255
Dammit, but I googled longhorn and it said vista.
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>>684271365
Your on the internet.

Your ISP will happily and legally provide all logs of all activity for all time if your ever called into suspicion.

*taps nose* our ISP even has a special little section for you guys, for when those requests come in.

You are not off the grid, when you are on the grid.
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>>684258473
Yeah. Because win10 will be supported longer than win7.
In fact win7 mainstream support is already over. It will get vulnerability patches for a few more years, probably until 2020, but then it's over.
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>>684271366
Hitachi? Fuck.dat

Samsung all the way baby. 840 pros striped raid 0.

FUCK redundancy. gimme full speed, full write, all drives all time.
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>>684271424
Stop living in the 19th century and start embracing a tablet OS on your main desktop. It's the way of the future, grandpa.

Oh and also, we've done away with boring old reliable hinges and replaced them with muscle locks which seem to have a mind of their own!
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>>684271366
2/10
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>>684271365
Lol "completely off the grid" yet the nigga is posting on /b/, the honeypot for the American police
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>>684271747
NSA? AGENT? play your games ill just get a vpn.
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>>684271870
You're going to burn your horse down
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>>684258995
DX12? Plenty of games to be released this year will use it. Only one OS has it.
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>>684272089
Never underestimate thy enemy. Or as they say around my condo, fuck a nigger in its mouth.
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>>684271916
that part of microsoft's gamble failed hard, lol
still no major adaption of touchscreens in the pc consumer market

over time it will hopefully make more sense
the task manager of win8 alone is worth any upgrade, in my opinion
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>>684272089
lol

ooooooh. now your talking liek a pr0.

Like its hard to track a tunnel to its exit point and sequester information there.

Nearly entire backbone of internet is built on cisco infrastructure. If you cannot see the relevance in this, than best keep that VPN up and running.

Keep going.
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>>684272134
That horse deserved to die in a fire anyway.
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>>684272321
>the task manager alone worth the upgrade
It really isn't. It doesn't do anything different, just a slightly better layout once you adjust. For most of the extras in the task manager, I just open compmgmt.msc anyway.
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>>684272321
I don't understand how Microsoft ended up here. Everything they do now seems to cringe worthy, awkward, and forced. I've been a PC guy throughout, but seeing them fail so miserably on almost everything they do is just depressing. If only they would put a fraction of the effort Apple does in designing their software to be beautiful and useful...
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>>684258473
If you've always hated your pc and secretly wished you just had a big ipad that tries making decisions for you and hides system controls from you then yes. Oh and if you never want to use pirated software then yes. And if you like annoying "user experience" popups. Also if you like your movements being tracked so that you can get more alerts prompting you to install targeted apps then this is for you. Pretty much if you're over 60 or under 18 and you just need a Facebook machine then yes, absolutely, go for it.
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>>684272676
it protects against the last iteration of virii/malware etc that would remove access to it, by cutting off the ok/cancel buttons and the menu bar.
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>>684272676
i think it is. the system management interface is old and clunky to use.
new task manager is snappy as fuck and gives me all the details i need for light system monitoring.
even a decent bandwidth meter, which has always been weirdly hidden away in windows versions before.
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>>684272964
If you answered no to any of that then no. Stick with 7 it's the best windows yet. Unless you're a /gtard then you might want xp.
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Lotta ms shills here
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>>684272905
short an easy answer?

Apple: Default config, minimal mixture of parts, everything standard and off the shelf, multiple same parts spanning across productlines.

PC: A world of part choices and combinations, allowing for any number of fuckery and fun within.

They have to spend the majority of their time reigning in vendors with driver rewrites over and over and over.

Not spend their development time deciding if they want the pale blue or cornflower blue on their safari icon.
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>>684272676
But that's the thing, average cucks like myself don't want to deal with compmgmgmfmfmg.msc shit. We admit we're not as hardcore as you fine people snorting coke all day. We just want something useful that also doesn't look like some programmer barfed on the screen. The new task manager fits that definition. It's beautiful and plenty good for the average user.
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>>684272905
>Apple does [design] their software to be beautiful and useful

we'll never agree there.

i think microsoft is simply trying to tie all its different code bases (windows, windows mobile, windows rt, xbox, ...) into a single product. that would be for efficiency and cost saving.
getting desktop users used to mobile metaphors helps them getting there, but that was the riskiest part of their gamble. they're now rowing back and trying again in win10 with a softer approach and more patience towards traditional desktop metaphors.
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>>684273306
Then get a mac.
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>>684258473
Meh, use 7 until they stop releasing security updates, which is either next year or 2018 I can't remember. 10 isn't that bad but there's really so upside to switching
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>>684273228
lotta people with informed opinions in here

we're just glad there's a discussion instead of the typical ridiculous knee-jerk rejection of anything microsoft proposes
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>>684273708
way i feel.jpg
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>>684260827

>I work at Microsoft.

How's Mumbai? How many times per day you pray to nutella?
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>>684273285
I get that. I mean, that's pretty much been my excuse for sticking with Windows. But I just hoped that Microsoft will eventually be able to find a good balance between design and compatibility without having to go closed system like Apple.

At first, it looked like Vista was going to be that perfect balance. Freaky, they nailed the design aspect but at the expense of compatibility. I guess I just have to settle with the fact that windows will never be as smooth as Apple OS if it also needs to be open ended.
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>>684272964
my point exactly, I was working on a mini laptop cheap one $200.00(cpu 2.3ghz dual I used to have one and it ran linux and emulated games just fine. This computer comes prepackaged with windows 10. first time I've ever played around with windows 10 especially on a low end computer. But that is fun reducing resource usage to make a functioning computer right? Spent hours figuring out tha pretty much you cant disable antimalware service excutable, you have to go into service host another resource hog and disable that, and you have to do a reg fix to stabilize the cpu. After this process antimalware still runs and at this point I just downgrade to 7 runs games fine. I have 10 running in my main laptop and it does ok still resources are being wasted on the built in spyware that comes prepackage with windows 10. I used windows 95, 2000, vista, xp, 7 and I thought those were restrictive but now I find windows 10 to suck. I liked windows 8 but they can keep 10.
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>>684272905
>I don't understand how Microsoft ended up here. Everything they do now seems to cringe worthy, awkward, and forced.
It really doesn't, you just don't see the enterprise side where the real improvements are made.
>I've been a PC guy throughout, but seeing them fail so miserably on almost everything they do is just depressing.
Your scope is limited, so of course you think they "fail at everything", but if that were the case, their stock would be collapsing, which isn't the case.
>If only they would put a fraction of the effort Apple does in designing their software to be beautiful and useful...
iTunes is the clunkiest, most garbage piece of software I've ever had the displeasure of using. I haven't had much experience with other apple software, but your requirements seem superficial and misguided. There is plenty of robust, useful software made by Microsoft. I sincerely doubt your claims that you were ever a "PC guy" (you probably mean windows fan, but I digress). There are pros and cons to every OS. You sound like a fanatic that's cherrypicking from a limited and ill-informed pool of knowledge.

Visual Studio can be pretty fantastic to work in. Active directory can do some cool shit too, if you maintain it and your network properly.
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>>684273581
See that's the thing about PC users, any mention of making software more intuitive automatically means we should get the software equivalent of a children's coloring book? No, I would love to continue using Windows, but doesn't mean I can't complain about their design / UI being subpar
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>>684274555
windows has just overtaken apple os in terms of UX

linus says it well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TReJmvn5nKY
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>>684273033
I guess, but there are snapins that do exactly that.

>>684272977
Not sure how eliminating the menu bar or ok/cancel buttons protects against that, but I've never encountered the malware. I assume you can still simulate alt+f4 and close it, though, using hooks.
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>>684274679
Mrs works in FIM for AD.

Its.... like a world above ad. AD on steroids.

Nowhere to hide on that network. And thats 60K odd accounts.

The duplicates. My god the duplicates she removed.
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>>684274964
No, its more your complaining about an issue that has been ongoing since day one.

It wont be addressed because its just not simple to address. You cant move forward, when users are trying to pull hardware across from 1926, and still expecting support.

Its not a dis. Its actually a compliment to apple. I dont like apple. But if you want something that works out of the box and looks sexy doing it, stick to apple.
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>windows has just overtaken apple os in terms of UX

Wat.

Have you seen the settings app? Kill yourself.
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>>684275091
it doesnt do it by eliminating it sorry, *i comma'ed wrong*

It eliminates what was occuring, viruses had figured out how to remove those things from that version of task manager.

The new upgraded task manager is no longer susceptible to the issue.
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>>684272271
>Vulcan
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>>684275302
switching from windows to a mac feels like someone just took away both your thumbs. after 2 months it's not getting much better. i tried!
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>>684274679
Congratulations on being such a devoted fanboy that you had to conduct a line by line rebuttal. Given your infatuation with the do no wrong, everything is perfect Microsoft, nothing I say will matter, so I'm not even going to bother. Whatever makes you sleep better at night mate.
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>>684275688

These faggots are here too? I figured they were relegated to plebbit and neowin.
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>>684275407
two of those are the same, one's from a browser and another two are also the same. are you trying to manipulate?

yes everybody knows windows is heteromorph, there is legacy systems upon legacy systems. UX does not end at asthetics.
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>>684275407
Seriously, these cucks seem to get personally offended at any complaints about Microsoft.
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>>684275598
oh, I dont disagree on that.

I feel somehow that I should be dancing around like an ipod commercial to like U2 or gorillaz or something too whenever I have to use one.

But. there you have it.

Shiny and simple minded

Or ugly and powerful.
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>>684276164
strong words from someone who is wrong about simply everything in the world.
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Mine switched automatically to W10 and it sucked badly.

The mouse stopped working about 3 minutes in everytime I started up my laptop.

It kept updating itself over and over again, 10+ times a day (would've been more had I actually used it the same amount I usually do, but it pissed me off to no end).

Certain apps stopped working. Firefox kept crashing a lot.

Driver issues, even when I updated to all the latest ones.

I just want a fast and stable computer, and W10 wasn't for me. So I updated it back to W8.
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>>684276250
Wonderful way to prove my point. James Cameron couldn't have scripted it better.
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>>684276328
>Mine switched automatically to W10

haha no it didn't
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>>684276164
Ive got plenty of complaint about microsoft.

Just not much about a retarded NSA super spy network and Microsoft being the mastermind of it.

But thats okay, I think your main goal is to show off your love for the usage of the word cuck.
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>two of those are the same

They sure are. It's not my image.

Here's another.

There's three different individual right click context menus that exist in 10 and have existed since its release almost a year ago and were never fixed.

> Taskbar/jumplist context menu
> Start Menu context menu
> Desktop/Explorer etc context menu

>And just for fun we'll include Edge as well with its oversized right click context menu that resembles Windows 8's cancer.

You must be some raving fucking lunatic to defend such abysmal work.
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>>684276486
I was away for 3 nights for a school event and when I came back home, it had updated itself to W10.
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>>684276561
look at it, computing all those quantums. You go you good thing.
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>>684276328
You sir are retarded.
Windows does not automaticly upgrade.
I guess you clicked on something without knowing what you just did.
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>>684276666
yes satan
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>>684275946
But it begins there. Unless Windows is only trying to cater towards wannabe programmers who think opening up cmd and typing random shit while traveling on the bus makes them feel like a pro, Microsoft will have to step up its aesthetics if it wants to keep its general consumer base.
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>>684276164

Hhaha, don't get me started man. These guys aren't even paid shills and that's what's most pathetic. If you're going to defend one of the most heinous companies in IT at least get paid for it the same way they pay all the Indians who do it.
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>>684276561
Can't even play MS Minefield on that shit.
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>>684276706
>>684276618
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>>684276836
>one of the most heinous companies in IT

apple?
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>>684276706
you have to uncheked the "recive normal updates the way i recive important ones" checkbox in win7 update center. then it wont auto upgrayed
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>>684276836
oh, you hadnt started? Please start. Your opinions are informed AND valued.
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>>684276509
You got me pegged there cuck. Take a day off for that fine detective work. You're gonna need all your energy for that special day when they come to take yer freedhums
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pretty meh imo
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>>684276561

>>684276878
The D-Wave One quantum computer (which bears more than a passing resemblance to the monolith) consists of 128 superconducting quantum bits or ‘qubits’. The computer works on the principle of quantum annealing. Essentially, it involves preparing some sub-group of the qubits into their lowest-possible energy state, or ‘ground state’, and then performing a series of operations to put it into a more complex ground state that can’t be easily solved using classical methods.


http://blogs.nature.com/news/2012/08/d-wave-quantum-computer-solves-protein-folding-problem.html
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>>684277143
So it really can't play MS Minefield?
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>>684276975

No, their shit may be expensive but at least it's decent quality and pride is taken in their UX. Instead Microsoft have outsourced their UX to India. At least I hope so, because there's no other way to defend it.

This is the retard responsible for 10's UX mess >http://twitter.com/peterskillman
>GM of Core Ux for Windows Desktop, Tablet and Phone @ Microsoft.
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>>684277090
>that special day when they come to take yer freedhums

that's already in the past. open your eyes, sheeple.
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>>684277090
Freedums never existed, I use microsoft products. Huurrr.
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>>684277261
shit this system can build its own Ms minefield as it plays it and calculate the the risk or the selection all while sipping a martini
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>>684277301
>>pride is taken in their UX

is that why you have to fiddly find the exact 3x3 pixel red circle to close a window under mac os?
and windows users just have to slam their mouse into the upper right corner and click in any given scenario to do the same?
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>>684277074

Sure, I'll start. Defend this piece of shit icon your company actually made public and shipped it as an insider build. How embarrassing.
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>>684277396
Stupid bitch I will pray to Allah that your family be force fed bacon
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>>684277738
alt-f4
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I just want to be able to play solitaire and minesweeper for free without advertisements. Fuck micoslim they went down hill from windows 98.
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>>684277524
Where's the fun in that?
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>>684277524
while conversing with the 4th dimensional beings and recommending to your neighbor what red to have with his beef wellington.

Seriously though, it doesnt do much in the way of practical computation for an end user.
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>>684277818
you...... you actively want me to defend microsoft, with you opening argument of HERE... LOOK AT THIS FUCKING ICON?
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>>684277738
Woah, easy there tiger. You're making me so wet that Microsoft managed to get closing programs right. Definitely a selling point you should bring up in the next Microsoft convention you find yourself in.
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>>684277874
apple's answer to when simple things get too hard to do with a mouse: a keyboard shortcut.

bad.
design.
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>>684272271
which games? list dx12 only games
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>>684258473
Yes, you should, but if you want to update first you must delete the System 32 folder
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>>684277918
I get to relax on the beach with my wife. while u fags are still waiting on a load screen.
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Yeah,ask /b/ , thia can't turn out wrong.
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>>684278155
uhm anon i think alt-f4 is win based if not mistaken
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>>684278146
it shows the general idiocy of apple design.

they used to have the same button style windows had, then the _actively changed_ it to be more inconvenient.
and this is really basic stuff, an action that probably takes up a good percentage of every single user's workflow.
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>>684278391
mac as well.
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>>684278183
Bitch it's not 1999, nobody falls for this shit. You fucking cuckold whore of a man child bitch cunt faced faggot. May the niggers tongue thy anus.
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>>684278248
You have a wife?
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"Windows 10 comes with the Microsoft Solitaire Collection, a solitaire game that requires you to watch 30-second-long full-screen video advertisements to keep playing. Ad-free solitaire costs $1.49 per month or $9.99 per year. That’s $20 per year if you want both ad-free solitaire and ad-free minesweeper. But there’s a better way." And you defend these monsters!!! @@#@! 20 dollars a year either you all live with your parents are you don't understand the value of a dollar.
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>>684277823
okay.

But, i like bacon. And your god is a filthy lie?
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>>684275112
That's an issue if you don't deploy AD correctly. That will be an issue in any domain hierarchy if done incorrectly. Shit takes planning and maintenance, yo, including checking replication logs (trust me, shit is no joke). But, yeah, I used to teach about AD and it's pretty robust. I've never used FIM, but management software is Microsofts bread and butter.

>>684275449
I see. They could have done a bugfix, but I can understand why they wouldn't.

>>684275494
Vulcan a shit and so AMD. Seriously though, in the PC gaming world AMD almost always falls flat because nVidia is so much better at nabbing deals with devs in that market. I seriously doubt Vulcan will gain any legitimate foothold in the market if history is any indication. It's sad, but the likely outcome.

>>684275688
I never said they do no wrong, I merely pointed out that someone has their head up their ass if they think windows is failing. Also, line-by-line was to address each point in a logical hierarchy. Not sure why you're going ad hom instead of disputing/refuting my claims, but here we are.
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>>684278669
A pack of cards costs about 2 dollars mate.

Plus, as an added bonus, they dont bounce everywhere when you win too.
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>>684262351
Deus Ex Invisible War runs like shit on 10. Then again, it ran like shit on XP too
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>>684277738

>is that why you have to fiddly find the exact 3x3 pixel red circle to close a window under mac os?

12x12 pixels actually.

The only fiddling you're doing is with children, fanboy.
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I'll just leave this here
https://www.ias.edu/ideas/2014/ambainis-quantum-computing
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>>684278988

>Vulcan a shit and so AMD.

Yeah man Vulkan is so shit! Who wants 200FPS in Doom am I right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anrvBD4aTGY

Praise DX12 & Nutella.
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i upgraded to windows 10 from windows 7 and i'm glad i made the switch.
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>>684279069
in some strange universe you've just won the argument. not in this one, though.
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>>684278997
>Plus, as an added bonus, they dont bounce everywhere when you win too.

But the best part is when they start bouncing around and going pfftftftftftftftftftftt.
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>>684279069
haha, now you can't unknow this bullshit design.
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>>684279069
sick burn bro :D:D:D:D::D
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>>684279069
What is this. An icon for ants?!
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>>684279551

Thanks man! How's Mumbai this time of year? Is it too hot to shit in the streets like usual or what?
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>>684278997
Its not about the cards bro I could pirate Microsoft minesweep and solitiare for free. It's about their preying on the elderly. picture some old man living on social security paying 20 dollars a year. Fuck I have a girlfriend I can't afford 20 dollars a year, imagine a poor old man who doesn't know any better becomes entrapped an starts paying Microsoft 20 dollars a year. This isn't right.
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>>684276831
They've been trying, but it's not their priority (which is enterprise, which is why they make so much money). I do wish they would step up their gui game a bit and make sensible changes, but that's why I stick to snap-ins, console commands and the like (it's often faster to input than a gui can be anyhow). I don't do a whole lot of administration outside of my household anymore anyway, but I am comfortable with windows and can bend it to my will without too much effort. Once you've been using a company's software for 25+ years, it's not that easy to switch, though I'll probably use *nix for my servers once I get the funds to build what I'd like in order to avoid software costs.
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>>684278407
You're right, let's use Apple's less than perfect closing mechanism to generalize their entire design ideology. I suppose it's much less forgiveable compared to the fucking abomination of a start menu in Windows 10.

I mean seriously, what the fuck happened there. It's like it's transgendered, it's neither a here nor there. Or perhaps that was a deliberate design choice by Microsoft to attract the new generation of gender confused teenagers and offer them a safe space.

I hate to keep having to take Apple's side since I'm a windows user myself, but you butthurt Microsoft droids make it so incredibly tempting.
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>>684258473

1. Don't upgrade to Windows 10 unless you absolutely need to do so to do something.
2. Get Virtualbox.
3. Get Linux Mint. (I've found Linux Mint KDE works best on Virtualbox.)
4. Install Linux Mint on Virtualbox.
5. Use Linux Mint on a virtual machine inside of Windows and get used to it. Try to use it as your "main computer".
6. Maybe next time you get a computer you'll wipe out Windows and just use Linux.

At least it's not spying on you and trying to get you to download new ways of spying on you like Windows does.
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>>684258473
you'll lose things like windows media center
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>>684279361
I like the part where you stopped reading there and, therefore, missed that it was tongue-in-cheek.
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>>684279679
Someone can download that old guy any other million variants of solitare.

Infact, if that old guy can figure out how to put his credit card into a new fangled electronic typewriter with screen, than he sure as shit knows how to download it himself.
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>>684279859
lol

Its not a loss when you run away from it in terror with your arms flailing.
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>>684279797
action and performance is more important than looks when doing things.
the utilitarian approach of windows you present as its weakness, i consider its strong point and advantage over mac os.

no idea how to continue this discussion, if we are that different.
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>>>684279797
>>I suppose it's much less forgiveable compared to the fucking abomination of a start menu in Windows 10.
>what the fuck happened there

I ask the same thing of 10's "start menu".
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>>684277978
for the moment, this. it is really fucking fast at certain limited kinds of problems
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>>684279859
that's been gone since win8.
it had decent live tv functions and of course it was the only media center software with native MCE control support.

appart from that, good riddance.
get kodi.
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>>684278988
Bitch you started talking about the enterprise side when nobody gives a flying fuck about that. We're talking general consumer base. And you cited iTunes as the one program that conclusively sums up Apples retardness.

I mean, we all get that you took debate 101 in college and are just aching to use all the fallacy names to show me how I'm wrong. But it's hard not to picture you with a giant Microsoft branded cock in your mouth. And before you bother, that's another ad hominem for ya. Thanks for stopping by.
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>>684280530
Youll know ones up and running properrly when free will has be entirely eliminated.
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>>684280659
if you're consciously using a tactic designed to destroy discussion, i don't think you should be rewarded with anyone's attention in a discussion.
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>>684280659
>Bitch you started talking about the enterprise side when nobody gives a flying fuck about that. We're talking general consumer base.

It's pretty common for windows faggots to talk about windows within the usage of enterprise. It's really weird. They think home pc users employ AD & GPE and shit. They're out of touch with reality.
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>>684279677
It's great bro. We all just had a nice poo. Thanks for asking.
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>>684280897

Faggot, this isn't plebbit.
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>>684262439
Such a tool you are.
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>>684278988
windows isn't failing from a business perspective infact they are thriving on hipsters that love there new gui. What support specifically does windows 10 offer over windows 8 through as far as enterprise applications are concerned. I would say 7 is fairly user friendly and any level data entry clerk can manage windows 7. is this about less privileges to end users so the admins have more power? I am just rambling and speculating not busting your chops but I would like to know what windows 10 provides the industry over any other operating system.
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>>684281054
so what, we can't have discussion on /b/?
since when? i've been here since 2006, there's always been discussion, even more than there is today.

shitposter.
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I like Windows 10.
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This thread is prototypical /b/

Faggots screaming at each other? check
Liberal usage of the work cuck? check
X vs Y with no grey area standpoint? check
Diverged so far from OP, noone can even remember what OP was? check
Left over faggots squabbling over ridiculous premises? check

This is why we are gay now people. We arent feared or even respected anymore.

Because of faggotry like this.

And besides, you all know im right, because apple sucks donkey balls.
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>>684279796
Thank you for making a sensible point not filled with unnecessary fanaticism. I actually get what you're saying. Maybe Microsoft might find more success with the general consumer base if they start over on a fresh consumer-only oriented OS that is not limited by the requirements of its enterprise customers.
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>>684281333
heh.

sick burn on a 3 hour old response. You read through all this shit just to do that?
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>>684281628
>Self-righteous cunt?
Check
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Yes directx 12 support
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>>684281401

>i've been here since 2006

You mean that's when you exited your mother's womb?
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>>684281490

Kill yourself
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>>684258473
wheres windows 9????
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>>684281821
cunts. plural.
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>>684281628
>Liberal usage of the work cuck?

Found the cuck.
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