Is anyone here a Jew or was raised in a household with strong Jewish values? I'm curious about the religion and what makes it differ from others
they have secret treasure and if you catch them they will give it to you.
During the middle ages in Europe, Jews were forbidden from learning trades like masonry. They were restricted from owning property that wasn't already owned by royalty. Nothing left than to be a money lender.
They have survived thousands of years of marginalization. They understand what it takes to survive and will do anything in their power to ensure that. Their culture promotes societal success. On top of that, they promoted intellectualism (and still do) amongst themselves when they were less visible in Europe during earlier ages. This led to higher IQs (general intelligence) than other groups. This cultural and intellectual emphasis combined with an insatiable urge to survive has led them to ascendancy.
Hate em or love em, they have made a pretty good run considering their struggles.
I'm Jewish / Semitic by heritage / race, not by religion.
Don't take up Judaism. Because you have no Semitic ancestry, you will not be considered Jewish by strict Jews, even if you convert to Judaism. You're still a goyim.
Is there a way that you were brought up that you have noticed differs from other non-jewish families? I am trying to put my finger on why a Jew has more success in certain fields than others..
So valuing intelligence over other aspects has led them to succeed? In what way would they teach this compared with other religions? It seems that all religions value hard work but methodology must be different
The learn how to haggle in primary school
This might be partly true. I think given the dogma that they are God's "chosen" people, in combination with their historical discrimination, they've developed a tribal mentality that allows them to be selfish unto their own kind. I think many times it can occur on highly subconscious levels as well.
However, I've known a lot of Jews, I'm from the NY/NJ metropolitan area, and many are actually just normal people. One of my best friends is Jewish and hates being Jewish. Although many Orthodox Jews will be rude and not even think of goys as people even deserving normal manners.
Depends on the particular sect, where the ancestry lies, and how many generations it goes back. If your Jewish heritage come only from the material line and is four or less generations away you're Jewish. Though you will still probably have to do a small conversion you're fully Jewish.
This poster >>684211150 got it mostly right. What Judaism emphasizes is success and success of the community. The best way to honor G-d is by helping your fellow Jew, in turn they will help you. Family life is very involved which leads to more stable and intelligent children. A strong work ethic (and working smarter not harder) is highly encouraged. Also we marry younger which is proven to facilitate more healthy relationships.
Judaism is much stricter than other religions on education. Most Orthodox Jews go to school and take home lessons alongside that. A strong motivation for material success is also supported, and the goal is that with intelligence comes wealth and prosperity for you and the next Jewish generation.
I was reading a piece about the Jewish ability to tell stories well. This may seem like a negligible thing but the reasoning behind the piece was that the ability to tell stories gives a Jewish person a lot better persuasion skill, does this seem apparent among the culture and its stories?
I was responding to this >>684211150 moreso than the question in the first post.
I don't think their religion has much to do with their success. I read that when they were marginalized in Europe during the Middle Ages, the religious leader and the scholar were at the top of the social hierarchy in their society. This led them to breed with the most intelligent amongst themselves as that is what they valued. This created more intelligent people. It's not that they have a special gene, it's not really even their religion. It's generations upon generations of breeding in a certain way.
Combine this with a history steeped in finance, cultural intellectual pursuit, and persecution, and you have a group of people hellbent on succeeding.
Their success does not have much to do with their religion.
one difference that my parents told me about it that Jews take care of their families. Like as in parents letting their kids live with them until they are ready to move out, instead of being kicked out at 18 like many christians that I know.
A follow up on this, a quote by Shatner who did a study into Judaism:
""This is also the secret of the success of bankers, who have to convince their clients to give them their money, or lawyers who try to convince the judge. These are all fields in which we find unusual success by Jews. In the past 200 years, whoever knows how to tell a good story will reach great success. Among Jews, this skill is already acquired during childhood.
" Persuasion applied to business and law
Yes, every service and meal is accompanied by a story if not several. I've never heard of using the stories to teach persuasion skills but I wouldn't rule it out on some subconscious level, the more evident purpose of the stories to strengthen community bonds by teaching the communal culture.
Perhaps they don't raise degenerate kids that deserve to be kicked out at 18?
The religion is very much the glue, also consider the Sabbath. It's a time where we abstain from all the amenities of the modern world, no electricity is the big one. Instead of watching TV we'll sit around and read or play games like chess, or even just talk human-to-human. In that sense there's mandatory weekly mental stimulation built into the religion.
It goes back to a wayyyy old custom regarding the Jewish soul and whatnot. Basically the reasoning is that most children have a stronger relationship with their mother so that how Jewishness is passed between generations. While you do carry Jewish DNA you aren't "Jewish" per se.
All consuming lust for shekels is the main difference
Oh shit, nigga
You just went and named the Jew
Your kind ain't welcome here
No, the only thing that would seem to conflict with modern Western society is strong in-group preference. We know most people dislike the Jews and the reason whether rational or irrational does not matter, we will be the first to be thrown under the bus. Instead what we do is help our fellow Jew the best we can. The company you work at (or own) has an opening, hire a Jew first. Looking for someone to renovate your house? Hire a Jewish contractor. Need a place to eat? Kosher. Making a tax deductible donation? Your synagogue etc...
Otherwise we fit into society very well
Someone had to.
its because in the olden days they couldn't confirm who the father was but could confirm the mother. of course this doesn't matter anymore but one the most important parts of Judaism is keeping tradition and following strict laws.
very religious Jews in Israel don't even work. They are funded by the government to Study Torah. A lot of people don't like them because of this since everyone else is required to go to the army.
My grandfather killed a lot of Jews. Lucky for him he was a damn good chemist, so the US brought him and his family back to the US and gave him a free pass on the genocide and a fat contract for his continued work.
If jews are such good people and so well liked why have they been kicked out of every nation they inhabited at some point in history?
How could they drive somebody (adolf hitler) past the point of madness to systematically torture and kill their own kind?
Why are jews so sensitive to being called out on being jews?
1. Hitler was mentally ill
2. Jew were money lenders, they were kicked out for the same reasons the Templars were killed
3. Some people have an irrational hatred of the Jews and will violently attack without provocation. Similar to the way some blacks will attack whites without warning.
This rich bastard is loved by the masses
There will always be outliers for their own reasons. What does every person in the world want? For the rich to be taxed more and held more accountable for their actions. The poor hate the rich, the rich hate the poor mindset
>If jews are such good people and so well liked why have they been kicked out of every nation they inhabited at some point in history?
He said the exact opposite of that you nimcompoop.
Just shut the fuck up. You're making white people look bad.
>Be son of a jew
> Mom is catholic
>dad is jewish bussiness owner
>best friend and friends mom are jew
>go to hebrew school and catholic school
>for some reason there is a lot of history and sybolism in hebrew school
>you memorize a few prayers but literally you learn the history and the why of each holiday, down to the details of why you dip bitter herbs in salt water during passover to why you have tricornered pastry on this one jewish holiday.
>all kids want to go to college eventually, some are in boyscouts
>go to 1st stage of catholic school
>classroom, teacher yells at us like we're retarded and need direct instruction
>memorize 20 prayers
>read directly from bible, nothing is explained
> guy sitting next to me draws this picture and tells me its a dog, pic related
If your mother is Jewish then you're Jewish! Congrats!! Mozel Tov! Go talk to a Rabbi of your choosing and after a small conversion type process about learning the Torah and customs of Judaism you will be accepted by the community.
I wish i was a jew. Would be great to be part of all that history and those traditions.
Why do jews bring up the holocaust nonstop everyday, on repeat, pitty me.
Honest, you goto any of the major social media sites, tv, radio, magazines, ect... there are people non stop at this very moment going on and on about muh 6 million(which was a fabrication).
How about you talk about native american genocide, black genocide, or hell the palistinian genocide that is happening this very moment. What about the middle eastern genocide where 4 million have died currently at the hands of the us and allied like the one that sots right in the middle of the grnocide (israel).
No never mind any of that just rerun on how bad your great grand dad had it and how this tragedy has ruined your life.boo fuckinghoo.
You cunts have it better then 99.9%of the people you sniviling lying cunts
Damn, man. What are you doing? Don't you know they'll shut it down for saying shit like that.
This is my best impression of you How did I do?
Why does 4chan love doing this? Is it a new memer?
>Jet fuel can burn 6 gorillion jews
She has a pornstar that looks just like her and has the same name.