We all know about holohoax already, but when did you stop believing in the spinning dreidel-earth?
Wow. So you're telling me that ancient civilizations could make logical observations about their current understanding of the world and that because they all have the same ideas that it somehow makes it more true.
good all round earth "circular" logic
Alright globe believer lets try this one...
Oy vey goy! The sun isn't close! Even kindergarteners "know" the sun is 90 million miles away!
Shut it down!!!
Pacific Ocean covers 60 million square miles.
Water is always level, and rounders believe that something as large as the pacific can still have the same elevation around it's entire border?
Antarctica is a ring encircling the flat earth oceans. No one knows what is beyond that, if the dome meets the ground at some point forming a limit to the world or if there is more land (additional suns?) beyond.
Oh, so you're a water bender huh? You can magically make water on one end of something be at a higher altitude then the other end?
Are you acting silly on purpose? You better not be.
I don't just believe the earth is flat... I KNOW the earth is flat.
This is the redpill of all redpill, the true kike lie of all kike lies.
I mean DUH obviously the earth is round, you can see the curvature right here in this pic of a guy who base jumped "from the edge of space!" Checkmate flat earthers!
Yeah, there it is, I see it, I see the curve, its right there!
people have gone around antarctica, though
the problem with you asking people to "prove it scientifically" is that one of your core beliefs is "scientists are liars"
so there's no science i can point to without you saying "oh they're in on the conspiracy"
Only north south, never east west, and always cutting across a corner, plus, the globe earth map of antartica isn't even accurate: its much bigger than how they portray it.
And no, you can't just "go there" to see for yourself, its a highly regulated territory. Look up Antarctic Treaties -- a no man's land for all nations, no one can harvest its resources, despite Admiral Byrd bragging in the 1950s about how much stuff he discovered down there? All countries just leave all those riches alone in this capitalist world? Yeah right. Its obvious they are hiding something down there.
>so there's no science i can point to without you saying "oh they're in on the conspiracy"
Basically. That's how conspiracy nuts think, and why, by and large, they can't be reasoned with.
In other words, we are speaking over your heads so it must be nonsense.
Come on brothers, just open your mind and at least take in what's being said. You can dismiss it after if it makes no sense to you, but at least consider what you're reading.
Im skeptical, someone explain this in a way whre it doesn't sound like your retarded.
i dont take it as gospel what individual scientists say
but the whole thing about science is that scientists corroborate with each other
so if lots of people agree on something it's more likely to be true
and why would they be lying?
what scientists have said that the earth is flat?
you're missing my point
you're saying that antarctica surrounds the world and its oceans
if that were the case the edge of the mass, if you were approaching it by boat, would be concave, curving around you
but it's not, it curves away
so how is it possible that it surrounds the world?
Oh I've considered and read everything I've read. All I've gotten out of this is more fucking conspiracist dipshits because apparently people fuel their shitty lives eating microwave food and pot noodles and put at bay their depression, by formulating the idea that: "Hurr durr the Government must be lying about everything, everyone even slightly government-related is a conspiracist" and "Hurr-durr let's argue that the world is flat and we can fall off it."
If the world is "Flat." Why can Russia and the Far east pretty much SWIM to the Americas?
>inb4 "World is a cylinder, you can fall off the top of it and drop into god hurr durr"
Of course there's no elevation change. Elevation implies that it's raised above the surface of the earth. Since the surface of the earth is also "round" of course the water is round as well. There's no elevation change in the water because the surface is always the same distance from the center of the earth
so all of space is fake to you?
how is this conspiracy kept going?
are you telling me no one has ever tried to blow the lid on this? ever? not once since 1958?
the funniest thing is that people figured the world was round hundreds of years before nasa
Periscopes could work no fucking matter what. I could build one with two mirrors, and a fucking drain shoot.
Lighthouses would work too, on the globe. Because the curvature of a potentially round earth would let it be seen for a great ways before it would be dimmed.
Sundials can be seen as they work off the shadow of the sun, and are build where the sun will face it. The earth orbits the sun, and so, the shadows will still move.
Gyroscopes work because there is still gravity. Just because something may be round, does not mean it doesn't have to work with physics. Especially something as massive as our planet.
Ah haha I will take bait. Get iphone charged to 100%. Set it to continuously take low res pictures and attach it to a balloon.
In a day or two go retrieve through Apple's service... or even better have it upload photos to the cloud and you can prove to yourself the Earth is round.
That's a very good point about concave versus convex antartica, of course they portray it as convex on the globe but we don't believe its an accurate map, as for what it really looks like its difficult to determine, there are several flat earth researchers who deal with this problem -- I'm pretty sure if you just went to antartica the coast would look straight /irregular. So its an important issue but not a slam dunk either way...
The lack of curve is really one of the biggest issues. Neil deGrasse Tyson is an example of a scientist who I am sure is a liar, I am positive he KNOWs the earth is flat but its his job as a freemasonic shill to push the globe agenda. Yet even he, when he got up on the Larry Wilmore show, couldn't offer ANY proof of the globe other than saying we are too small to see the curve. Which is, upon closer pondering, bullshit reasoning.
Whether you realize it or not, pic related PROVES the earth is flat. You just need to understand perspective and realize that a concave surface of a sphere, no matter how large, would NEVER look like this from a height, it would never appear to rise up to the eye level horizon (optical illusion "vanishing point" and "disappear" into infinity
.001 of 45 degrees or
.001*45 = .05 change in elevation. + or - .02 degress leaves for a total of .04 degrees or error.
Math checks out for me.
To bad being a land surveyor doesn't require much training and knowledge. Then maybe there would be credibility behind things they say.
Okay so if you take a small scale model of the earth and put water on it like an ocean, it will still hold its level based on the distance from the center of the sphere and not the absolute level, right?
No, it won't, the water would run right off of course, so your theory is just that, and unprovable.
Ok champ, so show me some curved water, I'll be waiting. BTW Neil disGrace Tyson couldn't show it to us either.
the doesn't prove shit
if you flew a plane straight that way, you'd go all the way around
you wouldn't hit an edge, you wouldn't fly off into space, you'd fly around the globe
it's as simple as that, man
you either have a fundemental misunderstanding of how gravity works or you're a really weak troll
>thats why you can watch a ship sail past the horizon
And rounders think flat earthers are stupid, but curving water is totally believable.
Uh data plans run through satellites. If you collect your phone you won't need data fyi because it will be on the hard drive.
I am not troll arguing a flat Earth. Just offering up an idiot proof solution to a what ~$400 satellite.
the scale is too fucking big
you can't see the curve because we are very small and the earth is very big
the problem with those diagrams on the left is that they stop
to show water like it exists on a globe they'd have to go all the way around
the water doesn't look like it curves, because it maintains a roughly equidistance from the center
Are you being dumb on purpose?
You silly fuck, how high up do you think you can go with an iphone and still have any kind of signal? You have two options to transmit from an iphone over any distance, cellular and wifi.
Please do show us just how high these signals can go.
The space conspiracy was blown wide open a long time ago. And yes there have been whisteblowers.
The problem is the conspirators still hold all the government and media power. What do you expect to happen? Millions of people KNOW the moon landing was fake (which it was) but you think they're just going to fucking admit it? No, we need friggin WW3 to happen before that does!
There is absolutely no curvature in that pic other than the lens. Its 100% flat. Water appears to rise "up" into the vanishing point, it does not curve "down" as needed to on a ball.
Took it myself a few years ago while on a cadetship on an oil/chem tanker
If flat earth how come I can't see Southern Hemisphere constellation from northern?
How come we do not see northern lights and southern lights at the same time? How would southern lights even work?
How come northern and Southern Hemispheres have opposite seasons?
>And yes there have been whisteblowers.
it looks the same to the human eye because we're so small and on the surface of the sphere
how could you even see something falling away? that wouldnmt be possible
you'd only be able to see the part closest to you
Jesus.Data plans do not run over satellite, they run over cell towers on the fucking ground.
A satellite phone is entirely different from a fucking iphone.
Get your facts straight before you talk dumb shit.
No they aren't fake. Who give a fuck if a planet is round or disk or octagon, satellites can still orbit around it regardless of it's shape.
You rounders get dumber every fucking day.
I used to work 4 months on 4 off, it's pain in the ass. Sometimes it extends to 5 months onboard because the higher in the rank you go, the harder is to find a replacement for you. Anyways, now it's good, 2 months on/off and Europe only. Decent money and not that long / far away from home. Anyways, while at sea, you can see the curve with naked eye as well.
WHY DOES WATER NOT FALL OFF THE EARTH.
HOW CAN YOU SAIL AROUND THE THE FLAT EARTH, AND NEVER SAIL OFF A CLIFF.
THESE ARE QUESTIONS MY SEVEN YEAR NEPHEW IS ASKING FFS.
tl;dr my seven year old nephew, can literally reason better than the flat earth adults
Because the outside edges are frozen, and the mass is what we call Antarctica.
There is no cliff on the flat earth. The earth is a disk shape with Antarctica as the rim. You can sail around the world, but you can't sail over ice.
No they don't live on the other side and I've no idea what that side consists of.
Gravity pulls on the center of the earth as it's basis not just on the relatively flat top surface, it's not a surprise a satellite can orbit it.
are you saying that the top of the earth is flat but the rest of it is round
what shape is this planet, dude
because if the whole thing is flat, gravity pulls straigt down, and nothing could orbit it
You're right, but you're still an asshole and this would still work as a cheap satellite. So your only point is that cell phones use cell towers but this is still a solution for retards wanting to do science. Also, the phone would get data at high elevations. Like I said, they do in fact work on airplanes.
Once the phone reaches Earth again, the GPS service by apple would allow you to easily find the phone again. Then retard could look through pictures and see Earth for tens of thousands of feet up depending on the balloon.
The earth is a disk. You can sail around the world w/o falling off.
I'm going to repeat a question because no pen answers it for whatever reason.
What reason does the government have for spending all this money to tell us a lie that barely affects our daily lives.
Good lord son calm down, most of us are just having a giggle.
In that picture you can tell the earth is round what you are perceiving to be land is actually the atmosphere you can see the curve right there lol. Also you can see the ISS from the surface i have a shitty telescope and even i have seen it. If earth was flat ISS could not exist.
lol you can't even take a hike in a straight line. Do you really think that you would be able to travel that much and not curve. especially when people go by the compass that always points to the center of the "disk"
This is JIDF propaganda attempting to tie together Holocaust Denial with wacko conspiracy shit like flat earth. Don't let the Jews in Tel Aviv win Brothers.
gooood is different from good.
Good means yes they are not evil and won't kill your family.
Goood means you enjoy them on a higher level than what you should enjoy a physical object.
Typical rounder, needs boobs explained to him.
Dude there are no flatfags. I'm one of the "flat earthers" on this thread and it's just for fun. You guys get so wound up trying to prove something so obvious you lose sight of the trolling.
no one is fucking pretending to be a flat earther you dipshit
Guys, guys. Prepare to have your mind blown.
If you see a rounded horizon, it means either that you're using a fisheye lense or that the earth is a bent cylinder.
explain how rivers work on a globe
the nile river flows for thousands of miles, a substantial section of the earth, with an elevation drop of one foot.
can you draw a diagram for how that works on a ball?
Degeneracy is so 2010
Nationalism and Waifus is 2016
Gravity pulls the water to the center of the earth.
Different elevation as you go along the land (the dirt and rocks are higher in one place than another), means the water flows "down" as it is pulled closer to the earth.
Earth has a magnetic field from its core. From how that field interacts with the enviroment, even that proves that it is round. The compass doesn't turn when I point it north and walk east to face the new "Flat" earth's north, now does it?
See how the center of the disk is where north is? Do you understand what i'm saying now?
How the fuck is north in the CENTER of the disk? It points to the magnetic field of earth. The northern section. That's in the NORTH POLE. It's why compasses go crazy up there.
As someone who has been to space and watched the earth rotate on in its axis. I can tell you the earth is indeed round.
All these religious explication you have put as your "evidence", are just that primitive people's understanding of the world around them. It's more religious guidelines to their perceived planes of existence, life, death, heaven, and hell.
This is one of the most idiotic theories still persistent in human history.
>As someone who has been to space and watched the earth rotate on in its axis.
As someone who hates Jews, let me tell you about National Socialism....
They don't go to the outer rim though. I used to be a pilot who flew planes in Antarctica and I tried to go further than what we were instructed too, and all of my instrumentation started fucking up, so I had to go back.
It's because the center of the world is highly magnetized. That's why compasses point there, and would go crazy up there (because they would want to start pointing down, so they go crazy).
Trying to muddy one conspiracy with varifiable evidence by lumping it in with other conspiracies that can be proven wrong with very little effort.typical cunty kike tacdick, faggot
Problem is you could keep pulling pictures off google and I could keep pointing out the bullshit, but then you'll just keep saying "oh no I just used that to better get my point across, here's the REAL thing"
No. Flat earth wouldn't be able to even generate a magnetic field. The polarity would have to be on the bottom of your flat earth. Which is impossible, since antartica has the south pole's magnetic field.
Probably because you were hitting the pole.
Don't aircraft instruments work on magnetism? If you got too close to the "center" of the magnetism, then your instruments were probably being "pulled" in all directions
Id love to see the looks on their faces
> The year is 2016 and people think the earth is flat.
Dudee the Civil Protection are on their way to re-educate you for telling them.
I dont even think we live on earth. The government just created the name earth but really i think we live on a planet called noobula9. Prove me wrong losers
I've traveled around the world and ended up in the same spot I started. It's round...ish..
Clearly i'm joking about it, just messing around with this flatidiots, you can't make them think correctly, they don't recieve the radio waves the goverment send us because their aluminium helmets
There must be a good novel about this
I can't wait to re-educate leftists like you when the God Emperor comes to power.
Real talk: Why do all these fucking retarded conspiracy theorists believe the government is omnipotent, and not the bought off shills they actually are? The textbooks contain dogshit information because coorportions like McGraw-Hill contribute boatloads to politicians. But sure, Uncle Fucking Sam and the hive-mind are behind everything.
I live in Hawaii which is as close to dead center of the largest body of water on this planet. From any one of our beaches you can see the curve of the earth quite clearly. It is true that water always takes the path of least resistance, but the earth can very easily be round without the water level being greatly different in other places. Gravity (on Earth) pulls all objects towards it's center at exactly the same rate 9.81m/s^2 . Just because something is not easily observed does not mean it does not exist. ^~^ purge your doubts brethren.
Explain to me how magnetism arises? The shape of this magnetic core in your flat earth and the show me the distrubtion of magnetic field lines on your flat earth. I'll even help you get started, unpaired electrons in outter most molecular orbits
I told you how they work and all you say is "that's not how they work". If you knew how they work (which you don't) then you would say it. I already gave you the proof, now if you don't want to believe it because you've been brainwashed that's just fine.
I feel like people never understand how vast the earth really is compared to a molecule or an atom. I always imagine that when something is that big molecules still act the same it just appears odd when you look at the big picture(earth). Gravity is constantly working on every square foot of the planet so why it's so hard to understand why water disperses evenly is retarded. Get over it fags. The world is round and you were too busy getting fucked by your dad to pay attention in science class or something like that
No Republican has ever received more Votes than the Donald. We are High Energy! Nobody even likes Clinton and the democrat base is fractured. I'm sorry to have to tell you this but you are being lied to. The God Emperor will be taking the throne.
We Control The Memes
We Control the Dubstep
We are Crashing This Election With One Survivor!
are you fucking stupid?
He didn't even get 50% of the vote in the primary, he only won because of how many fucking republican's stayed in. He received LESS votes than any republican nominee in history.
It's always been Trump. He made us think the earth is rounded, he makes us believe airplanes goes through wormholes, he projects the moon so we think its spherical too and he puts the stars in diferent places depending where in the globe we are
You see what you've done there is overreached. Your initial response was good and terse, necessarily so as the facts aren't on your side, but you've extended it into the standard 'brainwashing I've already proved it despite having said nothing' thing.
You didn't tell me how they work, you merely described what compasses do based on a basic misunderstanding of the basics of the mechanics of magnetism.
curvature does exist, thats why we get taught the formulas, the diagrams, and the labels. Curvature of the earth and the refraction of light.
These fucks dont even into geodesy, THATS the real science of applied maths on earth's geoid curve in a 3-d space, along with the magnetic waves and gravity field.
>He received LESS votes than any republican nominee in history.
>Won republican nomination
Liberal logic, 100% fucking retarded.
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Some religious retards are buying into it, but the bible says it's flat, and it's becoming a meme because it's so fucking stupid, and other retards are seeing the meme and buying into cause they think the trolls are serious.
Then even bigger retards are actually getting into arguments with them about how it's not really flat.
Arguing with a flat earth person is top kek
That's literally what you're doing. You have shown nothing and just said "you're wrong". I have shown how I am correct you just denied it and shown nothing because you have no clue what you're talking about
>the bible says it's flat
No it doesn't. The closest it comes (and the quote everyone uses) is 'the four corners of the Earth' which is just an idiom (which didn't appear in the original text.)
I'm not the one defending bogus/troll arguement a and going against the current scientific views. The burden of proof is not on me. I know the answer to my questions for the round earth it is your job to sway me. I already even said how magnetism arises (unpaired electrons in the highest molecular orbit) but you couldn't even restate what I said.
Do you even inorganic chemistry or physics?