>>684062584 because I've never voted and I don't see any reason to now.
I would vote for this guy though out of all the candidates. People have no reason to dislike him besides his personality.
Today I overheard someone saying "There hasn't been a single economist who has agreed that Trump's tax plan makes sense" and I politely corrected him and showed him to an article I had recently read about Larry Kudlow endorsing his tax plan.
>2016 >not having to prove your intelligence to vote >wondering why our country is falling apart
>>684062584 pretty much everything i learnt of nazi party propaganda and the influence on the broken german public is so ridiculously similar it's not even a joke.
realistically nothing he says is in anyway convincing to me. maybe it's because i've been around self invested ceo's like him before, who's own power and self assurance convinces others to follow and believe questionable opinions which the leader presents as facts.
general self righteous belief is not ground for government principle, i do what i want is not a democratic intelligent leader
>>684065039 >pretty much everything i learnt of nazi party propaganda and the influence on the broken german public is so ridiculously similar it's not even a joke. your 8th grade social studies class? that's cute. you must no so much.
>>684062584 I'm not voting for anyone because they we all shit. But trump, mainly because he lies, a lot. He's had interviews where he says he is definitely going to build the wall, then go to others and say he has no intention of building it. He is probably moderate in his views, and he does a lot of shit mainly for publicity, but I don't know if I want someone who expresses extreme views for attention rather than state their actual plans, most of his speeches are "yeah, I'm totally awesome, you have tiny hands, etc." But his actual views are either buried in the media, or he tries to keep them on the down low because he doesn't want people look away from the show he puts on. Restating so you guys don't yell out cuck or some shit. No, I'm not voting for Bernie or hillary either, ones a controlling totalitarian liveral, and the other promises a lot just to get votes, but so far hasn't stated how he is even going to do it.
>>684065729 Yet on top of his real business success, he has built an architecture of self-aggrandizement. “I play to people’s fantasies,” Trump wrote in his 1987 book “The Art of the Deal.” “I call it truthful hyperbole. It’s an innocent form of exaggeration — and a very effective form of promotion.”
>>684062584 >why not vote for Trump? Because he's a huge narcissistic douche-bag who would be a manager at a Dollar General if not for his daddy's money. He grew tired of being a two-bit reality star and now wants to play at being king of the world, a job he is in no way qualified for. Fuck him. Fuck him in the goat ass.
>>684066044 Yeah. He's a smart man, a very smart man, but he is really good at lying and pandering to people's fears and current pic opinions. I'm not saying "Islam is a religion of peace" or anything like that. If religious extremism was truly the problem, and not the beliefs themselves, then ghandi would be murdering people to join his belief system, yet, he was so extremist, he would try hard to not hurt a single person. So, all in all, it's not that trump is racist or anything (it's hard to tell actually what exactly be thinks) It's that he both panders and lies.
>>684066827 True. I don't think he's necessarily going to ruin the country itself, but rather, ruin the countries image/public opinion. He also says he wants to definitely raise taxes on the rich, but then says, he won't do anything with the wealthiest Americans's taxes. I just find him really hard to trust.
>>684067256 i think the average american public doesn't understand most of a country's economy relies on diplomacy in the free market. I almost hope trump get's it to see the end of the american empire
>>684066507 he has a degree in history, and "studied" economics; he briefly worked as an economist, but that doesn't make him a economist any more than bill nye is a scientist or the donald is a successful business man
>>684067538 Yeah. I remember him saying "WE NEED MAKE MORE STUFF IN AMERICA AND REDUCE IMPORTS and everyone cheered because "muh murican products" But we do better economically if we trade with other nations. The thing I'm more afraid of is that murifats (I live in America, calm down, I'm referring to the mini scooter riding fat fucks) think that becoming Japan and isolating themselves is the best thing for our economy. Some of our biggest oil traders are third world countries, if we stop trading with them, our economy goes to shit. Some walmart shopping murifats believe that halting trade with all other nations is beneficial, which scares me.
>>684068194 the closest biographies of the tragic businessman, apart from all those who attempted to do business with him are newspaper articles - the ones which haven't been taken down are because they are indeed full of facts which trump cannot sue for defamation - this one is nice
>>684068203 at the first sign a nation outside america presents a price or a deal trump doesnt like - trumps negotiation tactic will be brash and hard. then negotiations will cease and trump will be fuck it we'll go without.
this works for the first year, after a while america runs into a few issues with oil prices...
>>684068006 he didn't briefly work as an economist. he worked as a junior economist for a little over 4 years before spending 4 years as associate director for economics and planning for the office of management and budget (for Reagan), after which he spent 7 years as chief economist for Bear Stearns.
>>684068283 yeah it seems you only read the headings...
this is possibly a good example of what's wrong with american mentality - you take from one extreme to another like a bitch pmsing
this article points out a few realities - that's all, and the people in the past who were convinced by his bullshit enough to do business. in the business world you attempt to stay away from 'puff' marketers, just because you don't want to see the country fall into economic disarray like many of his businesses, doesn't mean you'll vote for hillary.
this man has never held any office, i can only imagine what his history would be if he wasn't kept only in the business world and his mistakes only affected him and his investors
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>>684069572 >healthcare full stance is allowing free market to run it's course BUT the government will take care of those who are unable to pay for insurance. >democrat on some issues lol who cares >guns year 2000, about the fringe issue of assault weapons (which are to the best of my knowledge still only defined in the most vague way possible) Whenever somebody brings up Trump on gun rights, let them know he holds a concealed carry permit in the ultra anti-gun state of New York and Donald Jr is a total gun-nut. >republicans too crazy right well, look at ted cruz. >views different from iowa oh shit he's not a bible-thumper >partial birth abortion he probably didn't even know what that specific kind of abortion was. he's a guy. he's in real estate and living the dream. Why would he care. full interview shows he's personally not comfortable with the concept of abortion but supported it from a rights standpoint. >omg he said nice things about various people when they happened to do things right or set out to attempt something important and had not yet gloriously crashed and burned >more taxes just lol >eminent domain it is wonderful, people affected by it make a fortune, far more than their properties are worth on the free market (which is easy to explain because it's NOT a free process and thus recompensation takes place) literally every republican wants the keystone pipeline so they need to stfu >(illegal) immigration even in this shill clip, he describes a strictly limited group of illegal immigrants who are highly productive instead of being a drain on the US
Who the fuck linked you to this shitty attack ad from january, anyway. Cruzbots are insane.
>>684068676 Imports cost less than manufacturing in America though. The only reason importing costs more is due to import tax. Congress wants to prevent these taxes on "non controversial imports" to better compete with American markets. However, making more stuff in America would probably create new jobs, though, some stuff would still need to be imprted, like fish, oil, and other resources. I'm not saying reducing imports is bad, but the taxation on those imports gives a negative effect to those affected by the taxation of those imports.
>>684068623 ah yes this has finally come. im sure it is bias however none of it is untrue since trump famously loves suing everything that paints him in a negative light - this being the washigntonpost which millions read - even a court injunction would push this out of print, but simply nothing is untrue in this article.
again, i am not american so we don't rely on EXTREME one sided news agencies like the public does. it makes for quite a spastic democracy when a voter ONLY gets his opinion from fox news or cnn (or whatever the opposite of fox's mind-numbing misinformation programing is)
Trump is for white people, what Obama was for the blacks. They even have the same message "hope, and change." All it took for white people to be sold were some anti Mexican comments, and a promise to build a wall.
>>684068926 like american, what the fuck does that sentence even do. this is why the world thinks you're moronic - think just two steps ahead. your sentence does nothing, you don't volunteer any actual retort and you have no idea who is writing the comment. please, i know you are the most uneducated of all western nations but please try to make an effort with a real response
>>684069638 the point is Trump is not to be believed. He has already changed his stand on everything in that video. When he realized the democrats were too smart to vote for him he changed all his positions to appeal the stupidest section of the US population...the republicans, and it worked. You inbreds went for it hook line and sinker. It would almost be worth it for him to win just to see the on your sad little moon faces when he announces there will be no new wall.
>>684066827 Fucking christ I hear this so often and I cannot fathom how this kind of stupidity could exist. Why, WHYYYY would you support someone on the belief that they aren't really the person they say they are? If someone goes out of their way to make you believe they're borderline retarded, safe bet is not to put your fote and support behind them. You don't know or care what he'd actually do, and that's your selling point!?!? Why would you pick the fucking mystery box for the highest elected office?
>>684070262 I'm not liberal. I'm not conservative. Fuck them both. I don't care who wins, because despite who does, I'm still going to be a tax paying citizen who is pursuing his right to happiness. No president is going to manipulate how I live my life. Once again MY life. Despite who is in the White House. Love my country, though. Just... Fuck politics. Ya know?
>>684068245 I don't give a fuck about Trump steaks. It has nothing to do with anything. Every business is going to have its mistakes and Trump's are no different. Regardless, it has nothing to do with his candidacy.
>>684070582 his business record is the only thing he can be held accountable for and it's dismal - if he had held any government office before and screwed up as much as he has, no one could consider him for office.
>>684070751 >Just... Fuck politics. Ya know? no i don't know faggot. the only people who get to say "fuck politics" are 7 years old and geriatrics with dementia who can stick their head in the sand. the rest of us need to have civil discourse so we can have our country not be a MESS anymore. kikes are actively selling you out and chinks are trying to collapse the dollar.
>>684071088 lol my gf thinks trump is sexist. I asked her to provide me proof. 5 minutes later I had no proof and we were talking about the wage gap. I reminded her to provide me proof again. She said "Just the way he talks about women"
>she has a masters degree >she's relatively intelligent >I have to break up with her now
But really, if you can't see how much of a sham trump is, you're in denial. It's obvious he will say whatever he has to to expand his business interests. It's all a business deal for him. Think he won't immediately begin using his power to line his pockets and forget everything he promised? You're in denial, friends.
>>684071313 >>684071151 Damn, this little bernout is salty and mad as hell. What's wrong? Mad that America doesn't like your nigger pandering cuck candidate? You should KYS after you take a break from being a keyboard warrior.
>>684071385 Trump + company are already worth many many times over what the clintons (combined) are worth.. and he isn't in it for the "paycheck" of a president because obama isn't a billionaire either
he is in it to help make america great again step aside kiddo and let the adults do the talking/voting/decision making
>>684071313 >le daddy money meme I don't care who you are. If you maintain billionaire status for over a decade, you know how to handle money. He's a smart man and it shows by his bank account. No moron can hold multibillions. He's done something with the money he was given.
>>684069672 He also said as a businessman he will make his products in America only when it is economically viable. He says China is ripping us off and his 30% tarrif will make it economically viable to build his products in America, should he become president.
>>684071491 >more than a couple times do you even understand that statement? he has had entire business ventures that were started and ended and yet he is still worth billions... and here you are shitposting on 4chinz
wow you must be so much smarter than him tell me more
I'm a libertarian and hate all 3 candidates but if Bernie wins we are absolutely fucked, nobody wants that lying ugly fucking cunt as a president, trump is a piece of shit and obnoxious but honestly is the best choice for America
>>684071162 You really think trump is going to save the country don't you? That's fine. We are all entitled to our personal beliefs. He's a businessman, not a politician, and if he does get the Oval Office, I'll be thinking of you when he progressively betrays everything he promised. Get used to that sore feeling of anger because anyone with an education can see that trump is not only in it for his personal gain, and doesn't give a shit about your American dreams, but he is going to let you all down.
>>684071992 >can see that trump is not only in it for his personal gain again i just pointed out that he is a billionaire (who others pointed out has been sued, bankrupt etc. etc.) what is he supposedly to gain of it? despite the millions of votes he is getting.. everyone in the media seems to hate him and compare him to hitler
he must be the best actor in the world anon. he deserves and oscar
>brother busts ass >drowning in debt from gettin himself sum bouk lernin and a fancy piece of paper sayin he dun got it >meanwhile i get into a plumbers union right out of highschool >big bro making ballpark of 75k a year and still struggling because of debt >im brining in 70k a year with a little bit of overtime here and there
Dosent help that he was always bad with money and i have always been good with it. knowing how to manage it and knowing what i can and can not afford.
But still. If my bro wants to suck his way to the top he will have to give up a LOT of family time on nights and weekends. i am content where i am at.
providing for my family with enough surplus that we have never been hard up for cash.
Haha. You guys think that trump is qualified as a politician because he has money. That's it? That's what you're placing your hopes in? A man who has a lot of money? Everyone outside of the United States dislikes him. Many Americans don't even like him.
>>684070891 Of course I don't take him at face value. But you can dig for substance behind the flash for days and get nothing. So if the idiot on the stage is the only thing you have to go on, you could: A) realize that famewhoring is not a qualifying quality for president and steer clear. or, B) Make up some nebulous flattering idea of the waifu material candidate you know he "really" is inside your own stupid head and vote for him as if your fantasy is real.
>>684070992 this. On top of the fact that he has time and time again demonstrated a lack of understanding not only of global politics, but of the basic functioning of US government. I get that his campaign character will simplify things, but it goes against his "cunning dealmaker" image when he flubs basic questions and shows that he probably could not pass a gradeschool civics test with a gun to his head.
>>684072254 um you might need to look at brazil to understand how being in power helps build deals between your own businesses and others - hence why no-one in cabinet is meant to financially benefit from secret business ongoings
>>684072465 >famewhoring is not a qualifying quality for president It literally has been the ONLY qualifying quality since the beginning. Fuck, Kasich was one of the only genuine candidates and he didn't famewhore and look where he is now.
>>684072584 I know that politicians need more than a lot of money to be a successful president. Hell, bush owned a baseball team for fun. How did that go for us? Was he qualified? The majority of the country doesn't remember him as a great leader. Your only argument is that he will be great at running a country because he has amassed a large fortune. Yeah, that's solid, man. Good argument. Forget national and international relations, which he is failing at, and forget qualifications in politics, which he has none. He has money, and that means he'll be a good president. You're sold like the black people were with Obama.
>>684072264 chapter 11 - is to PREVENT bankruptcy, put in place to allow government intervention of a large guaranteed to fail business venture
trump's businesses are usually not run by him, he adds his name and sells it, claiming the reputation from the one's which work and disowns the one's which fail as having no hand in them
all of his failings we not in just in that poor decision making, omission is and act as much as intention. http://thelawdictionary.org/article/how-is-donald-trump-able-to-file-for-bankruptcy-so-many-times/ since you like reading, it's short, scroll down to the list
>>684073270 >Your only argument is that he will be great at running a country because he has amassed a large fortune did you read my fucking comment? please look up the definition of POLITICS then consider whether or not Trump is good at collecting POWER
>>684072606 Right. Exactly my point. Only people who post hotter images and say fuck foreign relations" are voting for trump. Everyone who actually can see pass the bullshit can see he panders off of your fear of Mexicans and the cinese' dominating (but now slowing) economy. America doesn't need a president who plays on people's fears. Which is what he does.
>>684073685 >Hillary doesn't pander http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/25/hillary-clinton-says-half-cabinet-would-be-women/ >Sanders doesn't pander http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/275443-sanders-i-would-apologize-for-slavery Try harder you demoshit. Even more pathetic when you realize they pander to the groups of people that have the easy mode life.
>>684073685 He does not. He does not speak out against Mexicans, he speaks out against illegal immigrants.
You need to read between the lines a little bit and listen to what is actually being said. He wants to remove the illegals because he wants to bring more work to American citizens. That's the same reason why he doesn't want the Chinese dominating.
Let's be real. None of the candidates give a fuck about foreign relations. Clinton is a crooked bitch who will try to get one over on the rest of the world leaders and Sanders is more of a child than Trump is as far as diplomacy goes.
>>684074048 not sure he said hillary doesn't pander. hillary and trump are really as bad as each other - i dream of sanders turning the nation into something useful, but hillary slowly killing it or trump quickly killing it makes me happy too
>>684073530 Uh oh. He's mad. Put your trump hat on, and tell yourself this is the best thing since sliced bread. "Oh look at me, I type in caps. That makes me right, and you're wrong." Sure thing asshole. I can't wait until trump loses and you drink yourself into a deep sorrowful stumper, or when he wins, and then completely fucks the country up more. But like I said, I'm going to be doing me whether he wins or not, because I don't need some one in the office to make my dreams come true. I do that myself. I don't rely on sham president candidates.
>>684074048 i don't understand what's so controversial about the us government apologising for slavery? im trying to make sense, you're a republican which wants it brought back or do you not think it happened or that you don't think it was wrong or?
>>684074048 Fuck them all. Hilary is a liar, trump is a sham, and Bernie? We'll I don't even think he's going to live much longer. Fuck them all. There's no way trump will deliver on his promises, though. Anyone who isn't a white supremacist can see that.
>bankrupt multiple times What you memesters need to grasp is that he did that in order to make more money. Obviously bankruptcy is no big deal to him because he's still a fucking billionaire. There is no reason to say he'd file America for bankruptcy anyway.
>>684074685 That's right. I don't need shitty presidential candidates to make my American Dream come true. Have fun living your political pipe dream, fag. Just remember that none of what trump says he'll deliver on. Not to the extent he wants you to believe. You're being fooled. Probably because you're easily fooled, though.
>>684074803 Go ahead and move to Scandanavia and see how long you last with their unfair and exorbitant taxes, let alone the niggers/sandniggers.
>socialism kinda works in other places America is not about to switch economic philosophies. There are too many lazy niggers here that just want free shit and to abuse the system. Why bring down the people that actually work hard for their shit?
>>684075154 that's so cool that you don't like have an opinion and don't support any candidate. you are so above it all. i mean what does being the president mean when you can be anon and all your opinions are perfectly rounded so nobody can fault you?
>>684075418 Good to see you don't have reasoning against him other than name calling.
How about the fact that he wants to bring more jobs to legal American citizens? Or that he's got Ben Carson to put ahead of education once he gets elected? Or that he knows how to handle money? Or the fact that he's just one clever motherfucker?
I don't even like Trump. I hate the fact that he's got my vote, but the day I vote for Killary or Bernie "Economically Illiterate" Sanders is the day I stretch my dick out to the appropriate length to fuck myself in the ass.
>>684075537 Tell you what's, when I see a candidate that I can feel good about, I'll give him, or her my vote. Till then, I'm not going to have a hand in this fuckery. Everyone who voted for Obama regrets it. I don't want that shot on my conscience. Hilary is a crook, trump is a sham, and Bernie.. Well, I don't know about him. He seems a little delusional. They all suck. Bernie seems the lesser of all the evils, but I'm not voting for anyone.
>>684075362 Who the fuck is talking about who does more damage redneck fag? Of course China does more damage, but if your dumb fuck ignorant president denies the climate change then no one will give a fuck about it, if you are the most powerfull country in the world, you should be the one asking China to change their emissions, not the one denying the damage.
>>684075806 You forgot the part where people still make the same amount of money if they do jack shit at their jobs. That means there is no immediate incentive to work hard. Maybe in your gay little Denmark full of wonder and free of strife, people actually give a shit about the common good, but that shit doesn't fly in America.
>>684075907 Don't like Shillery or Sanders. Not all illegals are bad people. Mexico is a shit country getting worse. Those stupid ass Mexicans that you see on TV give the rest of us a bad name. Been in US all my life hate all those stupid ass Mexicans you see on FB buzzfeed videos.
>>684076408 Never said illegals were inherently bad people but they're criminals nonetheless. Why should someone be able to take a job from someone else and basically steal their money if they don't even bother to become a citizen or at least get a visa?
>>684076317 Then you should trying caring about the common good, and thats the big change your country needs, its just funny being one of the strongest economies in the world you havent invested a fucking dime in high quality free education or a decent healthcare.
>>684076635 Obviously you've never seen or heardhow difficult it is to get a visa or becoming a citizens. Also, wouldn't it make sense for a buisnessman to hire people who will do the same job for less pay?
>>684076733 >implying I don't care about the common good We don't live in Wonderland, bud. Not everybody gives a shit about providing for everyone else. I'd like for education to be accessible for everyone but it just doesn't work that way. Free college puts the government in charge of funding and we see how that's going with public schools.
>>684077141 How do Trumptards even believe building a Wall is a good idea? That's not even how illeagle immigrats come into the country. It'll be expensive and costly to maintaim, let alone ineffictant.
>>684077074 Haha get ready for long wait times to get in and no jobs to pay for your food and apartment. Then you have to pray there is a job for you afterwards but now you're competing against millions of other people for a few jobs here and there
>>684076979 If buisnessmen understand that people deserve to live a fuckin decent life, then they pay their "stupidly high taxes" without a problem. The problem with Murica is that you guys only care about ur fuckin selves and you all dream you'll become fuckin millionares and while you dream you fuckin spend your whole life paying the loan you need to get for going to a decent college, makes no fuckin sense kid.
>>684077382 The system is made to be ridiculously difficult. Illeagle immigrats do pay taxes dummy. It's the bad ones that don't. Then again many Americans don't pay taxes either. Everyone on welfare and foodstamps are natvie born Americans.
>>684076411 Psssh. Of course someone like you who belittles women and children votes for trump. Just for that, I'm going to vote for Bernie. And if trump goes against clinton, trump can kiss his campaign good bye.
>>684077967 >And if trump goes against clinton, trump can kiss his campaign good bye. you are now aware that most sensible adults who understand anything about politics knew that it was going to be trump vs clinton..... about 6 months maybe more
you are now aware the trump will decimate clinton in the general election and the liberal tears will be plentiful and delicious
>>684078093 Never claimed all illeagle immigrats were good though. Just like in every society you have good people and you have assholes, Donald Trump and his Goons of Merry Men happen to be the bad ones in this case.
>>684078776 of course I'm a racist, I'm not a fucking idiot. I also know that trump is a fucking idiot who will get his shit pushed in. the best part of this is watching the republican party cry in the corner.
I know inner party guys, they got fucking landslided by trump and im enjoying the shit out of it.
they spend decades gerrymandering districts which basically ensures the most right wing lunatic gets the various districts... and now they got some shitbag they can't control and it is fucking GLORIOUS.
>>684079008 you don't even know what the hell you are talking about you just sound like a dumbass 17 year old >trump can't be controlled >but trump will lose go suck on some eggs kid. the adults have discussion to do
I'm a democrat, and I hope he wins. It will be a glorious 4 years of watching Republicans get shit smeared everywhere. Nothing will get done. Republicans will lose the house and senate. perfect storm in 4 years.
hilary would do OK, but shes a corporate shill. Trump would be the glorious disaster we need.
>>684079277 He fuck are you talking about? We DON'T want to be there, would you cry if you were sent back to a place you tried to run away from? Dumbass 13 year old trying to be Edgy with his new 4chan friends.
>>684079422 >would you cry if you were sent back to a place you tried to run away from? no because i recognize that i shouldn't be there in the first place... you can take the risk and on one level i even respect you for it...on another level my vote goes to the guy who will send you the fuck back. get it?
if things are so bad there...stay and fix it THERE. why come here where we have our own problems and make our problems worse? no logic paco
>>684079237 haha wish I was still 17. sorry fag, I've worked on multiple republican campaigns, including the most recent elections for the RNC representatives. you have no fucking idea how fucked up republicans are behind the scenes. you should have seen all those yokels trump got elected for the state conventions.
>trump can't be controlled
not by the party. He doesn't need their support the way Cruz would have. Sure I mean he needs their superpac cash and all that, but the party isn't used to dealing with people like him. He doesn't want to be part of their structure, he wants to RUN it. He has them shitting bricks. They are trying to adapt and its awesome to watch. It's like a coup over there.
>but trump will lose sadly yes. the numbers aren't there. He will go increasingly moderate to try and pull them, and sure no one really likes hilary - but I don't think he can go the distance.
He's a draft dodger, and a stuck up rich boy, and new york elite. his shady business deals won't look too bad since everyone knows hilary is corrupt - but blacks and latino voters will shit all over him. Women fucking hate him. And lots of republicans are gonna stay home on election day, just watch.
A few months of attack ads and those poor angry white men wont like him quite so much.
>>684080116 you have no idea what you are talking about. I've seen polls that the media don't see, and been privy to state RNC election tactics ( in my state at least ).
You know who does like him? republican as shit asian men and women. No idea why - they are wet over that guy. like the older ones who came over in the 70s and shit. I don't get that demographic at all.
>campaign insider ha ha more than you nigger. I get paid to work on these things - I'm not a true believer but you know a client is a client.
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