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---eurofag reporting in. Just watched Michael Moore's new documentary. Really liked it.
What is the opinion on this movie in the USA or on MM docus in general.
>inb4 eurocuck commiepig bernieasslicker
I don't get how Michael Moore can be into criticizing america's culture and still be 300 pounds. He should realize what a fucking slob jerkoff he looks like, but doesn't care. Maybe that dispassion is also a cultural problem in the states.
Emotional appeals or plain factually inaccurate.
Bowling was the worst in this regard.
Sicko was the 'best' so to speak.
Fahrenheit 9/11 was 50/50, full of half-truths. Watch FarhenHYPE 9/11, the rebuttal docu, to learn the hawk side of the story.
How is it hypocritical to use your resources to expose the American oligarchy through documentary filmaking?
Why do you think they're going to invite you into their ranks some day?
Michael Moore is a pussy bitch trying to destroy the constitution by misleading people with fear and guilt. He is against the 2nd amendment and his bowling for columbine documentary helped me realize what he was doing. Since then I don't take what this ass clown says seriously.
I'd bomb the shit out of that fat commie fuck.
That movie is basically what is happening to America right now. Everyone is voting for a reality tv show clown because he is entertaining and anyone with facts and valid arguments are called pussies or cucks. This however, does not mean Michael Moore is a lying piece of shit that is against the constitution.
Michael Moore is a paid political operative of the globalists. He's anti-2nd Amendment, anti-capitalist, and overall a scumbag.
No, I know it was a jab at us. It was funny but then watching it happen in real life right in front of your eyes is the scary part. That movie will have a lot of historical meaning 50 years from now lol
Moore is about 350-425 lbs. I saw him walking & talking to some people in NYC. He was sweating and gasping for air. He's gonna' die soon if he doesn't lose some weight
He's made a fortune, about $75 million, selling make believe tales to liberals, socialists and leftists everywhere..so good for him! Retards love stories!
Roger &Me was good. Its been downhill ever since...
we got it.
we just didn't want it.
you do realize that the united states isn't as homogenous as your country? some people here really liked it. some people like me just thought it was alright. there's over 300 million people here. and we're all different. frankly, mike judge has done better stuff. in fact, he's doing better stuff right now with silicon valley. you should check it out someday.
>see this thread
>double check my calendar to make sure I didn't stroke out and imagine the last 10 years
I have it's good, also it's your whole countries cultish mentality that makes it really easy to generalise since you all have a pretty predictable response to someone making fun of Merica
he doesn't make documentaries he makes propaganda... which is his right, not problem if that's what he wants to do, but don't call them documentaries.
That said, he's so fucking disgusting to look at, his message might get out better if he would not keep putting his huge ego on screen all the time.
Don't assume and then put words in my mouth faggot. I said he makes biased "documentaries". In the past, a documentary was considered balance and objective reporting. He does not live up to that standard, so I won't support his propaganda. It that clear now?
Yea see every other country does make fun of themselves and it's funny, only mericans are soo fucking insecure they think 'make fun of us we make fun of you' is a bad thing.
Oh and that's predictible response I was talking about, either that or muh cheeseburgers
>In the past, a documentary was considered balance and objective reporting.
a documentary is and will always be a filmmaker's interpretation of an event or an issue
you just don't like Moore because liberals irritate you
just say that next time
Americans are just generally stupid, they'll vote for people that are "liberating" them, by removing more and more of their social welfare.
But who can blame them right? i mean, they constantly get bombarded by ads telling them what's wrong with them, telling them that having different opinions makes them "unamerican" and evil.
All their systems are fucked, the government is founded by large corporations, the school system is a fucking joke where political and religious motivations bend what is thought to the children and thus many drop out.
Guns are legal and easily acquirable, and again, they're backed and advertised by big corporations that tell the people what to think.
Americans pride themselves on individualism but really they're all just products of a broken system and the opinions of large corporations.
Of course there has always been some biased docu. in the past, but not like today. You must be under 30. The world did in fact spin before you were born, and the standards for professional and personal conduct were different 40 years ago.
yeah, but this whole thread is about americans making fun of themselves.
we're even talking about movies made by americans that make fun of... americans.
the predictable response you're referring to is a response to a bunch of people who have never been here, yet want to put in their two cents about something they know absolutely nothing about.
personally, it's funny to me how all these threads keep popping up that refer to all americans as fat, lazy, gun-owning rednecks who ride rascal scooters through wal-mart.
i mean, what's sadder the fat, gun-toting rascal scooter riding rednecks... or the people who obsess over them from afar?
Different guy, but I'd say a guy who makes commercial films and rakes in millions with a theme of 'Capitalism bad, m'kay? Fuck the rich, they're our enemy. Etc.' is at least a little bit of a hypocrite.
>the standards for professional and personal conduct were different 40 years ago.
actually documentaries were a dime a dozen in the 70s--care to go through every example and put it to your purity test?
I didn't think so. Stay buttmad that Moore shows how fucked up shit you tend to support is
Different poster, but...
Wait, you think I owe it to everybody with a point of view and a book, movie, website, You_tube channel, or whatever to spend my time paying attention t them? Shit, I could devote 24 hours a day to that, and not get through it all.
So yeah, I am selective. I know Moore's shtick, don't need to spend a whole lot more time on him.
No it's not, you ppl response to any sort of criticism even a humorous one, exactly the same like a really insecure only child, it's strange it's culty and it happens every single merica thread, basically none of you seem capable of taking a joke
YOU, with the tone of your replies are displaying butthurt. Keep ranting and telling everyone that they are fags if they don't agree with you though. You're making a difference.
To me, though a documentarist can and will have a point of view, the film should be driven by the facts as uncovered. Moore twists and distorts and, where necessary to his point, makes up facts needed to get to the conclusion he was aiming at all along.
Thus, to me, he's more properly considered a propagandist, though that term has negative connotations that I do not mean to imply.
it's different if you sell yourself as an everyman though. He is a millionaire, he tries very hard to appear to be an average joe.
How much of his relayed image is "I was born in the poor working class of flint... the bankers are the enemy" while walking around as a fat unkempt slob. It's either the act of fraud, or he is legitimately just a mess. Which is possible.
You are right, everybody is selective, based on what he/she prefers to see.
At least you know what MMs films are about and chose not to watch them anymore.
I don't like Teenage Vampire Movies
you know, there's a reason you make "merica" threads and not norway threads.
and it has nothing to do with the funny reactions. it has everything to do with the fact that america's culture has broken out into the world in a way other culture's have not broken into the united states.
you can't even make a thread about your country, no matter how funny you think it is, and have it last more than ten posts.
because nobody cares.
Yes, I expect a lot from a documentary if they are throwing facts around. The rest are story telling and fluff pieces, and that is fine with whatever they want. If I'm not interested in the subject, I don't watch. If you present facts and are telling me that you are revealing the truth, then it must be objective and balanced. Otherwise, I'm not interested.
Actually, genius, your question was about his hypocrisy, I answered it. "Imparting information" as you put it gives an impression that it's solely unbiased facts which he is relaying when in fact I find his movies to be rife with opinions and subjective observations. Use whatever wording you want to polish the turd but in the end hypocrisy is hypocrisy. He profits from a system which he vilifies I just can't even think of a more textbook example than that
>hypocrisy is hypocrisy.
still waiting to see how expressing opinions about issues is "hypocrisy"
you faggots are majorly butthurt liberals have that kind of power in this country
I'm going to try to help you out with the English language. If I said how terrible it is to kill animals for food while eating a steak, what would I be? You see, expressing that I think eating animals is wrong would be an "opinion" while getting sustenance from said animal would be....what's the word? It starts with an 'H' dammit I just had it, anyway I'm sure you get the idea, after all you are one of those "smart liberals"
You're really that stupid aren't you? It was a metaphor. You really dare to condescend to anyone when you can't grasp a simple concept? I could explain how I wasn't talking about Moore making statements about vegetarianism but I think I'm done trying to reason with simpletons
Moore is attacking corporate greed you dense fuck
it isn't hypocrisy to point that out to an audience
he doesn't have to donate all his shit to charity or live in a mud hut in Equatorial Africa
you fucking conservatives are so petty about everything
Exactly. Moore puts Goebbels to shame. But like you said, that's freedom of speech and his right to spew lies and almost partial truths. We shouldn't have to worry about labels though, it helps sort out the potatoes that blindly repeat him and follow him like lost children.
DURR I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT HE DOES THAT'S HYPOCRITICAL BUT WHEN I GET CLEAR CUT EXAMPLES OF IT I GET BACKED INTO A CORNER AND CAN DO NOTHING BUT MAKE A FALLACIOUS STATEMENT ABOUT HOW THE ANSWER WAS FALLACIOUS.
Hey moron, just because people said things about Al Gore, doesn't make the answer to the question less true
Yes because he has never said anything negative about capitalism. What else can you pull out of your ass to try to change the definition of the word hypocrisy? Who is being petty here? A question was posed and I answered it. I never said my political affiliation or how I feel about capitalism or if I even hate the man's work. People just get really emotional when presented with facts which don't align with their beliefs. It's okay anon, Moore is flawed just like every other human. Accept it and you'll be a lot happier
OP im going to give it to you straight....
We really dont watch michael moore films. literally, less than a fraction of the SJW communities even watch his shit; its mostly europeans and canadians thats watch his films.
i have absolutely no opinion on him because hes not even releveant to 99.8% of the nearly 400,000,000 people that live in the usa.
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I didn't say anything about Al Gore. The poor bastard was dragged into this by you. I imagine what someone may say to that questation though is something to the effect of him perhaps flying commercial instead of taking a private jet if he's really that convinced of man-made climate change and as passionate about changing it as he says he is
I'll bite. Look how he edited hestons various speeches in bowling to make it look like her was responding insensitively to a shooting. I mean i know you won't do this but just saying, there's plenty of critique of there about his style and you are a complete idiot if you think he's making "documentaries."
"Hurr durr, i saw it on the tv so it must be true."
... And you eurofags think Mericans are the ones who are stupid.
Question it with well formed facts in full that you don't have to hide bits and pieces of, then present viable solutions based upon complete facts and support it with facts and evidence.
Changing the status quo isn't you earning a participation trophy you're entitled to, millennial kiddo.
still waiting to hear why it's hypocritical to make a living denouncing corporate greed & selfish right-wing Republicans while collecting a paycheck
you faggots can't handle the message
just like with Al Gore
that's the real issue here
I didn't see the movie but I'm guessing he was pointing out some sort of irony in Heston's words that justified the sort of environment where a Columbine might arise
get over it
Actually Moore's movies could be 100% well-researched and you'd still defend economic inequality and some of the other issues he criticizes, so no
you wouldn't believe it then, either
Trump. Support. They. Very idiotic. I told you so. Autists. Don't have jobs. Still live with parents. Bitch about economy. Still no job. Bitch about immigration. Still no job. Bitch about taxes. Doesn't even do taxes because no job. Americans. Very idiotic. They vote Trump.
it's the message faggot
you want rampant corporate greed, you want a shitty healthcare system, you want shitty Presidents like Bush again invading countries like Iraq to "make america great again"
I'm pretty liberal, but this guy is so incredibly one-sided that he's an embarrassment. He didn't used to be like this, but he's gotten really bad. Now, his association with an argument on an issue is enough to cause needless suspicion as to its veracity.
It's sort of like having the KKK endorse a political position you like. The position may have merits itself, but the KKK is so disreputable that their association causes more harm than good.
Ironically just watched it 2 nights ago. I got the feeling that Moore took the best of each country without showing the worsts.
For instance, he showed business owners in Italy I think in a tailor shop who said they didn't mind paying extra taxes. He never asked the average truck driver or construction worker who did not like his VAT.
Don't worry little millennial, when you grow up and don't want to sit around in a shitty diaper anymore the world gets better. Take the bull by the horns and earn something for once in your life, you'll find ambition and satisfaction in being an adult and being able to have adult things, as opposed to being a little baby in a shitty diaper having a temper tantrum and demanding everything on a silver platter.
Try it, you'll be pleasantly surprised at what a real life feels like.
Holy shit, they literally don't understand economics. We can increase taxes as much as we want if we just pay everyone more so that they can pay the taxes. If we need more tax money we'll just make employers pay even more and the employers of course just have a bunch of money to do that. Also we need a system which penalizes hard work. There has to be a consequence for being successful
yeah that might have been unclear. Most US citizens supported invading iraq and she became the liberal pariah by publicly opposing it. by "not most people" I was referring to your statement that most people were critical of it even before it started.
biggest fat faggot in history
hope some sandniggers rape his daughter.......