Lets argue, motherfucker. Pick any position on any issue and I will tell you why you are wrong.
>>683879797
Donald Trump will make America great again
doggy
>>683879797
op is a fag.
/thread
>>683879797
Those tits are tiny
>>683879797
Only the most intelligent people and not idiots post threads and argue on the internet
>>683879797
Your post is cancer an I believe you should commite the ultimate sin
>>683879797
Jews did 9/11
Undertale is an awful game.
>>683880494
Marriage is a dead institution
Jet fuel can't melt steal beams
>>683879914
Donald trump is evidence of the memetic society of for the lulz motherfuckers we have today. By being the opposite of something bad, SJW, you assume you are smart. The world isn't polar opposites, Donald Trump is great at running for president but has no skill at being president. Vague short on details high energy optimism is his only position on any issue.
>>683879955
I prefer vaginal cavities
>>683880050
You only have sexual experience with fat girls and porn so small tits look strange to you.
her right boob (to our left) is better than her left (to our right)
>>683879797
Hitler did nothing wrong desu
>Explain yourself XD
>>683880661
Your sexual preferences don't absolve from faggotry. Such is /b/.
>>683880345
Smart people don't need to justify their opinions to idiots for the same reason you don't correct a preschooler when he says bernie sanders is cool. You know he just heard that from someone and there is nothing worth arguing about.
>>683880435
You posted, even if its baity cancer, you slurped it ratass
>>683880494
Cost too much to buy 9 plane tickets.
>>683880553
It provides a niche for people who claim to like hip not about graphics game. People pretend to like it so they can talk about how much they like it, thats providing a service people want and thats capitalism at its finest, good game
I should kill myself
Absolute value of two is greater than absolute value of one.
>disgonnabegood
>>683881130
So you agree with me
>>683881130
>Cost too much to buy 9 plane tickets.
>>683880616
Despite what the small bubble of the glow of your computer screen would indicate, many people live normal happy lives like in all those clickbaity 50 pictures of smiling families. Plenty of people are happily married, you just wont be one of them. Now select all the images with pictures of cake, jack off, sleep and repeat til dead, you son of a cuck.
>>683880661
FuCkInG StElLaR
>KILLING 3 ARGUMENTS AT 1 TIME *TALENT*
>>683879797
NASA is just a public display and behind the curtain is a secret space program in which we have sent men to the moon and mars and probably beyond. Explain how we went from flying the first plane to travelling to the moon in 60 years, and almost 50 years after that we have shit to show for it.
>>683880632
The ignition temperature of what starts a fire has jack shit to do with the eventual max temp of a fire. Not to mention steel melt many degree after you can bend it with your fucking hands.
>>683880718
those are cross eyed boobies and you are seeing that nipple dead on, other tit is just as good you fucking white male.
>>683880735
He drew some shitass art and took 2 years to train a german shepard to sit, what a shitlord.
>>683879797
At least one thing OP says in this thread is true.
Right.
>>683880868
metaphorical faggotism is irrelevant
>>683881369
Nigger are you clinically retard, I responded to 4 people, who the fuck are you
>>683881229
Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
>>683881237
greater is arbitray, 1 stab would is greater than 2.
>>683881372
9 tickets is nothing to a group with millions fuckass
>>683879797
So you'll argue the opposite of any statement I make? Ok.
Op is not a faggot.
Donald Trump is pure political poison to America. He has no political skills at all, only speaks to what his audience wants to hear with no solid plans to back up his talk, will build attempt to build a disastrous wall on the most difficult stretch of terrain in America (and somehow "make Mexico pay for it") wasting millions on a pipe dream, erode every political and military alliance by running his mouth off at the slightest provocation, and cause a disastrous trade war that will make us pay for milk alone with a fucking ten dollar bill.
Honor? What honor?
>>683879797
I don't trust mainstream media. Why should I?
>>683879797
The war on drugs is the single greatest factor in the current state of the US social destruction, economy, and the recurrence of racism, not to mention south america's (them thar below texas') destruction.
Had we learned our lesson from the earlier prohibition era, we would see far less niggatry, far less violent crime, and far less minority idiocy, thus less racism. We would have a stable southern ally, with no need to "build muh walls". We would have far less incarcerated citizenry, allowing greater economic growth. We would have far less SJW bullshit, because racism would be incredibly minor without the minorities being sucked into it and jailed and thus them darn white folks noticing that trend.
Thoughts?
>>683882421
there are differences between statements and facts
Heheheheheh! By the powers of naughtiness, I command this particular drop of hot sauce to be really, really HOT!
Prove me wrong OP.
Modern feminism has become absolute bullshit created by radical females to rule over society. It's practically a cult and should be fixed or rather, discontinued.
Please disagree.
>>683880050
Virgin detected
Yesssssss, finally one of these threads, thank you so much :) :) These are my favourite >.<
I argue that OP is always right.
>>683881543
Because this real life you sock shitter, not civilization 5. Shit isn't linear, we spent 3000 dragging our asses around on horses and then boom cars, and what do you know, we still have cars. You believe this innane conspiracy bullshit because it is entertaining to you. Whenever your position on an issue is fucking exclusively what you want to true, look at it real hard you sack of children's shit. Grow up and stop jacking off to moonmen or bite the bullet and go full schizophrenia.
>>683879797
You can't prove a negative. Go!
>>683879797
US relations with north Korea should be made/strengthened
>>683879797
I believe the earth is round, do you disagree op?
>>683882184
This statement is a cheeky paradox and this borderline autistic fuck is proud of his 6th grade philosophy skills. Oh, lookie there, looks like youre right. Consider myself stumped.
>>683882398
image.jpg
Did you seriously just google trump, say and image and then post right? Thats an awful lot of work to not even convey a comprehensive point.
>>683882421
Wow, this is some grade a 3rd grade bullshit, we are all to some detail erotically labile. I prefer a girl getting fucked by a big dick in my porn to a girl fingering herself. The presence of a man expands the experience, thus to some degree, faggot
OP is a fat fuck, basement dwelling archmage who gets a spec of self worth from trolling, baiting and winning internet arguements.
Hitler didn't sink the Titanic
Challengefag is imminently cuckable.
>>683879797
OP I believe I have a small penis that isn't any good at pleasing women or men.
>>683882529
What a low energy shit stain. Political ability has jack all to do with. Despite the weariness and all the talk of being in charge of a nation, the president is a simple job. Be a communicator, stand firm on issues, and work legit towards the people's interests, all of the best presidents were simple men who didnt draw on experience for a job that is unlike any other. Trump fits all those categories.
The wall, and other issues the rednecks holler about are candy issues, you literal infant brain puke. He doesn't care about them, it draws the votes and it helps him win. If he was so passionate about that shit, he would have mentioned it sometime before 2012, wake up you john oliver licking shit,
The world as we know it is real
>>683882552
another image.jpg. What the fuck are you trying to accomplish little autistic billy, want some fucking blocks to help you talk.
>>683882602
Because despite what the bernie bots tell, every single thing on earth is not a conspiracy that explains why all the cool shit you like isnt liked by everyone.
Free will is an arbitrary, imagined concept that can't be proven or disproven, and is thus ultimately nonexistent.
Ohhhhhhhhhh yeahhhhhh.....
>Look at me fucking up, smh
Timestamp bitch!
>Anybody can go search "Tits" on smoogle, grab a pic and then *POOF* by some form of "Slut Magic" there a female
>>683879797
Saying that any position I take will inherently be incorrect by telling me I'm wrong also automatically implies that you yourself hold no specific argument that could be invalidated by yourself. Since after all, I could choose any side of any argument. Therefore, you automatically invalidate any of your own arguments.
In essence, if you can invalidate any side of any argument, you also invalidate any of your own arguments accordingly. Thoughts?
>>683882671
Correlation and causation motherfucker, learn it. War on drugs, then bad shit happened, does not imply it caused it. Have heroin at the corner gas station would not fix that you fucking idiot. Doctors can't even prescribe pain drugs right without fucking it up 20 percent of the time, you expect your aunt wanda could?
The vast majority of people are too much of a fucking idiot to decide what can go in their bodies.
Mommy states are required because we are surrounded by children.
>>683882725
Lick a soft rock, you pedantic fuck
>>683882772
googles, hot sauce meme face, types nonsense. These are all one guy isn't it?Ill name you austin, that sounds like a good autistic name.
Go text by your dad's grave, idiot.
>>683884002
>you don't need political skills to be a politician.
>Trump fits all those categories
Nigga say wut.
>>683884562
>>683879797
What's wrong OP, don't like being confronted with tautologies?
>>683882789
Your narrow view of the internet taints your whole world view. Imagine if I went to /pol/ exclusively as my source of talking to republicans. I would be like wow, republicans are nazis.
Same story. You only hear the loudest mouths, the hairiest legs, and the mostfagtard triggypuff motherfuckers because you imformation influx is similar to your goddamn grandma's on obama.
Every single fucking femenist girl I have ever met in real life is kind, logical and actually for equality, not this sjw bullshit. Leave your bedroom and get anoth glass of juice, you socially inept fuck stink
Nobody will ever love me
This statement is false.
>>683879797
Only cucks advocate gun control.
>>683879797
My topic is that /b/ is a bad place. Debate me.
Unless teachers unions adopt policies that incorporate more involvement from parents and students they will not likely be around in the next 10 years. There are currently bills being written that will eliminate the need for their continued involvement in contract negotiations with teachers and the Friedrichs decision is probably going to blow up in their faces. Unions like NEA and AFT have been trying to expand into other countries just to remain relevant and increase profits from offshore membership dues since their memberships here are already beginning to diminish. Essentially, teachers unions are fucked.
>>683882899
Make one yourself if you want it idiot. Have some goddamn agency
>>683882932
Hey, what an original trippy trappy idea. I am straight up goddamn bumbled by your intellect dick mark. No one is always right, except Allah, praise be upon him.
>>683883043
You are not a kitten. Kittens would be actually enjoying themselves instead of being in a cess pool that reinforces your negative behaviors. Read a book ,Pacu
>>683883107
North korea is not dumb at the government level. The way that government is run is the way almost all were run 200-300 years ago. Getting better relations and further aligning the people in charge's desire with helping their citizen is the only way to fix the problem. But the drooling idiocracy view of the interview, that kim 3 is some katy perry loving grumpy child is far better right? Go let a british man cream in your ass.
>>683885283
This.
Real life is different. Most people are moderate, but social media only brings attention to the loudest and the dumbest of groups, bringing tainted views of any mass of people. Of course there are exceptions on certain groups, like /r/redpill folks. But in terms of feminists I've actually met a great many girls that air toward feminist ideals and say so, but are moderate and just want to be treated like any other person.
You can always tell how much internet someone consumes and the quality of the sites they browse based on how radicalized they've become either for or against any group.
>>683886139
Still waiting on your reply OP.
>>683884562
>>683883318
Give me one single goddamn bit of proof it is.
Round earth pictures, photoshop or special lens
ships raising on the horizon, thats the waves idiot. Look for a ship in the distance on a calm ocean, you can see all of it.
Do the fucking geometry for how far you can see and island from one to the next before its covers by the water and the curve of the earth. It doesnt work. This is explained by "light curvature" that we dont fully understand, give me a goddamn break. NEXT
>>683886204
Controversy sells. That's one thing I've said ever since I realized I don't give a fuck who J Lo was marrying this week.
There is no evidence philosophical or physical to back an egalitarian and humanitarian worldview. The rest of the world must succumb to the might of the military and economic superpowers, because the strong do what they will and the weak do what they must.
>>683886578
Yep, every single boat even on a calm sea, always the exact right wave to emulate the curvature of the Earth. Trying to say that millions of coincidences makes more sense than an actual explanation.
Fuck your troll bullshit. Go survive a fire.
>>683883662
I get self worth from going in the world and doing things. This is entertaining to me. You are clearly projecting if it would even occur to you that pretending to argue would make someone feel good about themselves.
>>683883694
Give me a literal goddamn second to laugh at this lunacy. Before the titanic sunk, the exact same plot was written about in a book. What year was hitler born? 1889. How many jews died on the titanic, a shitload. How hard would it be for a boy to secure a few liferafts for himself, distract the cabin crew by claiming one of them raped him and reenacting a scene from his favorite book, a little fucking sociopath sure, but thats what hitler was, grow up.
>>683883840
That sentence makes no sense to me, how does one have a state of cuckability, cucking is a propensity of the cucked not a weakness to be exploited.
>>683883924
why did you put you xbox live id in your post you fucking 12 year old?
>>683883925
Women love tongue, thats like 2 inches, learn to use your shit idiot. stop looking for excuses.
>>683884143
Prove im not the only real one and all you shits are figments? Whats that, you can't because thats goddamn basic high school philosophy, oh well damn, next.
>>683886589
Listen man, I'm agreeing with you here.
But we all get it. Anyone with 15 neurons firing know that celebrity gossip should always be ignored, and you stating so is just posturing. Everyone here knows it, it's not a badge of honor, so bringing it up doesn't give you bragging rights to the intellectual elitism club. Knock that shit off.
On to the next part: Controversy certainly sells. But in this day to a frightening degree. Media outlets don't just sell controversy, they manufacture it with complete disregard to the social consequences. Here lies the actual problem. Not necessarily your average person, since in real life, most people are entirely tolerable. The problem is these media corporations.
The worst part is that it isn't even some invisible hand controlling or guiding the course of human social structure. It's just chaos. People taking advantage of situation upon situation, with no regard to the consequences. That's scarier to me; there's no guiding hand here, we're descending into madness without anyone guiding us there, it's just our natural progression. We're doomed without a man in the shadows pulling our strings. It's a glaring statement about the human condition.
>>683887451
Stiiiill waiting OP. If you can't confront a tautology in an argument without pointing out the subtleties that make it's foundations invalid, then you aren't prepared to be telling people you have a superior point of view.
Again, let's see what you have to say. By ignoring this, you also automatically forfeit this thread as lost, as you couldn't argue a point against it.
>>683884562
>>683884446
Acting so high an goddamn mighty because you are less likely to fall for 4chan lies is the one balled man leading the eunichs. Nothing to be proud of, shameful!
>>683884562
I could motherfucker, if I side I was always telling the truth. You ever hear of devil's advocate, or do you always reach into your flashy 6th grade vocabulary and pedantic bullshit to seem smart?
>>683884846
I stand by that motherfucker, you dont need to know how to run a register to be a pharmacist because you can learn that shit in 1 day.
>>683885265
Look at my speed nigger, Im working down the page, wait your turn to get fucked like the rest, nice continuation of the 6th grade vocab words tho
Capitalism is a failure of an economic system. Socialism, and eventually communism, are the only rational systems of social organization.
/b/ is a human form of plague and it represents how people would act without social norms or consequences
>>683879797
I THINK LOBSTERS ARE FUCKING DICKHEADS
WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY FAGGOT
>>683885295
You don't know that, somewhere is some awkward legbeard girl who cuts herself and can't handle critism and you'll meet in desperation and settle for each other. Enjoy it, faggot.
>>683885527
Wow, see above you pedantic twat misser.
>>683885804
Single women support gun control, how the fuck do you cuck that?
>>683885918
Im having fun=good place 6/10
>>683886091
There are two sides to this one...
>>683879797
But I'm right
Veganism is the only dietary practice which is is consistent and coherent to ethical principles such as the non-aggression principle and principle of sanctity of life. Veganism is moreover a more efficient dietary practice at achieving optimal nutrition at minimal cost to the self, others, and the ecosystem.
>>683887484
Dude.... Completely.
>>683886091
give me an example of a similar union getting "fucked" by such things? Unions are to a large degree self sustaining since thats there one primary goal, and no national level direct action against them would be support. This isn't fucking house of cards, and your ability to type like a fucking textbook doesnt change that.
>>683886204
Stop agreeing with me faggot
>>683886372
Damn you are a thisty cuck
2+2=4
Prove me wrong
I have allergies to peanuts, as confirmed by my doctor
>>683888697
dubs say you're wrong
>>683887984
You didn't disprove my point. You made an ad hominem attack against the way someone posts. The lowest form of trying to debate. You've lost OP, feel bad.
Let me try explaining that again, since it applies to the devil's advocate stance just the same and you didn't seem to wrap your mind around it.
See, saying that you can prove any statement wrong, means that all statements are, by default, wrong. Again, this means that any of your arguments are then too, completely wrong. Since attempting to point out a logical fallacy with another logical fallacy still results in, you guessed it, a logical fallacy, any of your viewpoints in this thread are wrong. (if of course, your original post is assumed to be true.)
But let's have fun with this. Since you feeble little mind can't grasp the concept, let's go more in depth.
Lets say your original post is a lie, and your statement you could prove anyone wrong is known to you to be false. Well then you're just a troll looking for attention, which is even more sad than people attempting to post replies that stump you. But going even further, by assuming your initial post is false, and you have assumed the position of willful ignorance, than you also declare the default state of falsehood.
Using a few more neurons than you have in that fetal alcohol syndrome brain of yours, you can deduce that, no matter what, you're incorrect in all situations one could possibly come up with.
Give up dude, you're not as smart or special as your parents told you.
>>683886589
Wow, you don't care about celebs, what an enlightened fuck. Do you iron the pony decals on the shirts or buy them that way?
>>683886628
must is a strong word there, considering such groups exist kinda fucks with the notion they cannot. Are you staying they are unsustainable? So is everything good.
>>683887484
I like how your argument style to to state obvious facts without ever making a convincing point.
>>683887832
Holy hot dog shit, you thought you had me huh. How proud are you of yourself, you are a juice sipping son of a bitch. Momma told you to not slurp so goddamn loud, probably why you didnt have friends in 3rd grade and your life spiralled out of control.
>>683888571
Not OP but fuck you and your feelings. Plants can feel fear and constantly try to grow natural adaptions to try and kill you to prevent themselves from being eaten. If that is the case then why not kill everything as brutally as we want? We aren't trying to make friends with the grass you fucking hippy. We are conquering the grass like we are want to do for our survival and thriving like we conquer every other single fucking thing on this earth.
>>683888033
List of socialistic governments that failed=longer than I got time to type, oldest unchanged government structure on earth?Guess what it is, you hippie fuck.
>>683888081
No, its shows how 16 years olds act all the time. This isn't some deep philosophical experience, its porn and idiocy.
>>683888112
Lobsters seems nice and they lets you pet them at red lobster and make them hold pencils. thats nice
>>683888347
Im right beard breath
>>683888571
non agressive to fucking brainless shimp is an arbitrary line. Explain to me why I should give more of a shit about a shrimp than a bacteria or algae?
>>683888680
Actually government action has been taken by several states already to limit the collective bargaining rights of teachers unions. Especially in Wisconsin where union power was effectively diminished by Gov. Scott Walker's anti-union law. Such measures have been taken in many other U.S. States and now a primary complaint against the unions is their overwhelmingly biased financial support of democratic political campaigns. When in reality, many teachers in the U.S. are republican. These sort of survivalist political preferences are partially why the Friedrichs case was brought in the first place. Teachers unions and their members differ widely on political views and this internal struggle is why membership is continuing to decrease and districts are leaving unions in favor of specialized local collective bargaining strategies.
>>683881130
>costs too much to buy plane tickets
you are wrong
it's bevcause they wouldn't dare to destroy there own shekel making sceme. costs too much shekels
>>683879797
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>>683889352
Again, ad hominem attacks. Do you think other posters aren't familiar with this? Do you think your style of posting is impressing anyone, or convincing even the most simple minded of the batch that you have anything worthwhile to say any more? Everyone is talking to everyone else at this point, and you're desperately tacking conversation on. You're just sad and desperate for attention.
Also, someone clearly saw deadpool recently and just loves edgy non-sequitors going into character vs. approaching the statements made by others.
Here's a handy guide on your posting methods, why they've already been thought of, why they're wrong, and proof you aren't as smart as you think.
But you know what man? I hope life turns around for you. I hope soon you don't go onto autist filled websites, hoping someone gives you attention you so hopelessly crave. I actually want you to grow up, move on, find something that engages and challenges you, and makes you understand your core character more. If that happens, one day you'll look back and realize how pathetic you used to be and how glad you are you changed for the better.
And if not, well you can sit here on 4chan, making threads, desperately clinging to life in hopes someone will notice you.
>>683888697
2 what motherfucker, 4 what motherfucker. Thats arbitrary 1st grade garbage. 2 dogs+2 fish frogs=1 smelly ass house but my 3 neighbors are fine.
>>683888722
peanut allergy is inoculable, the overcoddled society today equates it with the fucking plague, like the solution is to avoid it completely, treatment exist to cure=/=true allergy. Your doctor spent one day of class on peanut allergy.
>>683879797
You exist
>>683884346
this op.>>683883450
>>683879797
Cheating on your significant other is not ok.
>>683888772
singles says youre wrong
>>683889125
My fun loving attitute really rubs your college freshmen educated ass the wrong way doesn't it. I made an adhominem attack.
I am indeed a troll looking for attention, why the fuck else would I make this thread dumbass? Wanna have an intellectual pissing contest?
Being wrong is half the point idiot. I can be wrong objective and stil argue youre dumbass pedantic "truths"
Expect to find 3 more did you reply yet thisty posts further down, will I get lucky?
>>683879797
Bacon is good
1+1=2
I am not immortal
>>683879797
Im very tired.
>>683890728
Hey at least I jumped from 6th grade to freshmen year of college in the course of 5 minutes in your mind. Imagine what a one on one conversation would do in an hour. Hope your life improves my friend, you're clearly looking for intellectual stimulation and challenging others, in whatever sense that may be. That's a positive thing.
OP is not a child rapist
>>683889653
Dont ever agree with me or my son again
>>683890031
bargaining rights being limits isnt working towards abolishing them, a weaker teachers union is harder to argue as a threat and is harder to destroy idiot.>>683890127
there were like 3 dentists offices in the tt max
>>683890332
>>683890295
I feel sorry for our brother with schizophrenia here.
>>683890332
Whoo its like christmas, I haven't even read yet and I can already tell who it is.
No
>yes, as evidenced by that one faggot saying good job
90% of my response are to OP replies or unlinked starter statements
That was a good movie, does that mean Im pegged armchair psychologist? You realise the need to argue with someone who is clearly trolling is a sign of autism right? I mean that legitly
rather content actually
Like a hil supporter in a burn thread, condescending, nice, with a hint of lesbianism.
Like the way I baited you into writing a goddamn novella in my thread?
>>683889653
The ability to experience feelings requires a central nervous system. There is no evidence that plants experience qualia which could be meaningfully classified as feelings or which are analogous to them. As such, plants cannot feel "fear" or anything else, so your argument is predicated on a false premise. You would know that if you bothered to learn about plant physiology, psychology, or neurobiology rather than adopting known fallacious and debunked arguments.
>>683889992
Name a single example of a socialist system, society, or "government". Some do exist, and they were principally successful endeavors, but I strongly suspect that you are so grossly uneducated about this topic that you will probably mention the Soviet Union or People's Republic of China.
Shrimp have nervous systems (and brains) and there is some evidence that they possess nociception—i.e., they can experience pain. Bacteria and algae neither have nervous systems nor is there any evidence that they can experience pain.
>>683889653
>Plants can feel fear
>Plants can feel
Yep. Without any brain or nervous system at all to speak of, it totally feels a complex emotion and not just DNA based programs of execution. It's not that I don't agree with you. Fuck veganism, I love me some meat. But also fuck you for misrepresenting my point of view.
>>683879797
Aliens exist, somewhere else in the universe.
>>683891912
Your ability to make coherent posts is going downhill. Have a cup of coffee and come back.
Norge er det beste landet
>>683890576
Prove it idiot
>>683884346
missed this little pupper. Not being able to prove something is miles away from proof it doesnt exist, that makes no goddamn sense, even if you use the word ultimately
>>683890664
Depends on the situation, some people deserve shitty things
>>683890823
Its an over hyped internet obssession, its tnot even the tastiest preperation of the one animal it comes from. also, generally, too cooked and too salty, 4 out 10, it does smell nice though
>>683890859
see above idiot
>>683890871
have you ever died befo0re? You dont know what shit is around the corner medically
>>683890985
You live an easy life, If a man with a gun entered your room would you tired then? You have energy, you are hiding it from yourself because you are complacent
>>683891108
you're a college freshmen level education who impresses with 6th grade vocabulary, i see no improvement, nice condescending though, I am straight up bristled.
my position is that space exists.
>>683891270
in certain states, prior actions could be described as statutory, fitting that definition.
You know what OP, in my opinion you're a really intelligent guy.
The 77 cent to every dollar wage gap doesnt exist
>>683892393
fill in the blanks, All my quotes of you were interpreted as spam.
>>683891984
requires a bit more than nerves jack, namely a goddamn brain, yet a jelly fish is a sacred creature we must give the benefit of the doubt. bacteria and plant can move away from a toxic stimulus, define pain in broad enough terms and it fits it hippie.
Give me an example of these successful socialism government that has had those policies in place for 50 years?
OP, you are quite a troll. Although there are multiple fallacies in some of your arguments such as the fact that you don't exist, you amuse me. I presume you have quite a clever mind, so I must inform you of something irrefutable.
The word "yellow" has six letters in the English language as of today, May 12, 2016, and is used to describe a color.
I'm sure you'll find an argument, but I'm ever so amused in your hypotheses. Continue, friend.
>>683891598
You do understand that a union can't survive without members right? Also that teachers unions are different from typical labor unions.
I should kill myself
>>683893664
All lives are equally meaningless, so it does not matter what you do with yours.
>>683892328
What are the chances when I pick a car at random, see a license plate, it will reed 118 GFR, ?Pretty damn low, but if I see the plate says 345 FRD and then say, whoa what are the chances of that? it means nothing because I already looked at it. You exist, the fact you exist says nothing about the propensity for life in the universe. No signs of life yet, only started once on earth ever, with billions of years. I see no reason why it could be any degree of rare.
Op is not a faggot
Okay now tell me why I'm wrong
BJ Penn had balls of iron and could have beaten anyone in his prime had he had a legit training Camp.
>>683893796
That was answered, see above
>>683879797
Anyone over 500lbs is unhealthy and obese
This image contains the symbol (in the form of digital pixels) of the United Dtates Marine Corps, the Eagle Globe and Anchor
You are right
>>683894171
I'm curious to see how this one will go.
>>683892479
hvorfor er det en slapp kuk da?
>>683892786
nigger, what space? You relize I cant see where you are pointing?
>>683893036
I am not smart, I am average, but lucky and willing to work hard. You dont fucking know me.
>>683893208
It does exist, it just isnt for the reasons they say
>>683879797
Black people really dindu nuffin
>>683893523
Yellow means coward and it has 5 letters, you fuck, Y E L O W
>>683879797
Dr pepper is the best soda out there
>>683891984
Fuck off, commie.
>>683894370
I spelled out the word "yellow" though. You can't just change the context of the argument.
Please find a logical argument for
>>683893523
>>683894252
You definantly have to be more specific than that. You said you would argue it, not just say the opposite. Dont be a faggot and explain how the gap exist, specifically the dumbass 77 cent stat
There is going to be another fappening within the next 3 years.
>>683894252>>683894252
>mfw du riktig
>>683893581
I understand it can survive with fewer members
>>683893664
see above, suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem
>>683893714
what a load of crocheted on the wall reddit get motivated shit.
>>683893796
see above mister unique
>>683893861
dont you ever help me or my posts again
>>683893845
His balls were likely not iron, that makes no goddamn sense. Could he beat mike tyson in his prime, any of the mma fucking super heavys? NO CHANCE, get the fuck out of here you bruce lee loving weightclass jumping fuck. My verification expired because of you forcing me to google shit
>>683879797
Op likes to argue
>>683894878
No, op doesn't like to argue, he likes to prove people wrong.
OP also does not prefer people to help him on his posts.
>>683893983
Does wolverine look unhealthy to you?
>>683894148
United Dtates Marine Corp
this isnt a thing
>>683894171
>>683894208
You should be curious to see above you unoriginal cuck
>>683879797
The zionist jews control everything.
>>683879797
Prince died for our sins.
>>683894979
>>683893983
>>683879797
Weight.
(Without Adamantium skeleton) 195 lbs., (with Adamantium skeleton) 300 lbs. Powers.
Wolverine is a mutant who possesses the ability to regenerate damaged or destroyed areas of his cellular structure at a rate far greater than that of an ordinary human.
>now what Op
>>683894819
He fought as high as heavyweight ..he would've choked Tyson out ! Blasphemy..more google
There are seven words in this sentence.
>>683890332
I think you're upset you didn't think of this thread first.
You call OP pathetic, but you type these long shitlord replies trying to debase him.
You, sir, are the cancer in this thread.
>>683895270
I support this post.
>>683894341
I have literally never seen one do anything, so fits my empirical evidence
>>683894549
you cant use l twice because you a pedantic shit, hows that?
>>683894404
diet dr. pepper is better, taste like dr pepper but with less sipping in mamma's basement feel
>>683894474
lick romneys tennis racket
>>683894628
Every statistic shows women make 77% of men. The reason its shit is because when work less hours at less competitive jobs and pick worse majors. Listen to milo talk on it if you want a source.
>>683894631
Iphones wont be in by then, the next generation of celebs will be ugly and gender fluid
>>683894702
speak english, i dont have time to read appropriate in rapeboat langauge
>>683894878
I am pretty neutral right now you slimy lip crust, get slurped by ted cruz
>>683894963
Why the fuck else would I make this thread if I didnt like to argue?
I secretly enjoy the help.
>>683892763
>Depends on the situation, some people deserve shitty things
Then why not just end the relationship?
>>683879797
The earth is round.
America sucks gay
>>683896165
Nice try Kanye
>>683895651
Taste like regular dr pepper my ass
>>683896243
I've always been a fan of Dr. Pepper, but code red Mountain Dew and Cheerwine are pretty great as well.
>>683895135
Like I trust your canon sources. I saw wolverine origins, He takes harley shocks to the FUCKING GROUND, thats not 300 pounds, I choose origins wolverine as my healthy heavy example.
>>683895027
I am currently controlling what I type you pig eater
>>683895109
No, he did drugs
>>683895194
likely you dont mention the superheavy mma guys
>>683895206
Articles arent words,I count 5 shit stain
>>683895270
>>683895459
Both of you stop sucking my dick immediately after I finish, it feels strange
All black people are niggers, but not all niggers are black people.
>>683893397
Like I already said, shrimp—like all crustaceans—possess both a nervous system and a central nervous system (i.e., a brain). Apparently, your reading comprehension skills are as lacking as is your knowledge on this topic. The ability to respond to stimuli is simply characteristic of life, but it does not mean that said life is necessarily and sufficiently complex enough to be conscious or capable of experiencing feelings.
Pain has a specific definition in neurobiology. For example, pain is "[a]n unpleasant sensory and emotional experience associated with actual or potential tissue damage, or described in terms of such damage", according to the International Association for the Study of Pain (IASP).
Source: http://www.iasp-pain.org/Education/Content.aspx?ItemNumber=1698&&navItemNumber=576#Pain
Perhaps you should use an accepted definition for pain rather than contriving an unsubstantiated one which you can use to semantically evade my criticism.
You haven't defined what constitutes "successful" or a "government", but an example of a socialistic society which has functioned along socialist principles since 1967, which is approximately 49 years so far, could be the Twin Oaks Community in central Virginia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_Oaks_Community,_Virginia
This, of course, assumes that it's even possible to have a socialist system within an overarching capitalist one. The general consensus on the radical left is "no" and I generally agree with that. In reality, there is no such thing as a truly socialist "example" because socialism, like capitalism, is a global system and socialism could only truly be defined as existing if it is likewise global. Such an argument requires a background in radical leftist theory to properly understand, however, and you clearly don't have that, so it's more productive to provide you with an example of a society which is organized along socialist principles even if it may not be "socialist" per se.
>>683879797
the earth is not flat
>>683879797
OP you are the smartest person on /b tonight.
>>683896061
Because some people deserve shittier things than a break up, like getting a taste of their own medicine
>>683896165
See above, you unoriginal shit
>>683896186
America sucks all sexualities
>>683896220
how fucking mematic, are you the black man of science?
>>683896243
That difference, thats the basement feeling
>>683896403
autists discussing their prefered mamma's fridge raiding loot
>>683880632
Steel loses 90% of its structural integrity at 50% of the temperature at which jet fuel burns. Owned.
>>683879797
OP is straight. Prove me wrong, hetero.
It is wrong to forbid others to live how they want, or to voice their own opinion.
>>683896493
The super heavyweights of mma are either obese or have gigantism. ..there's a reason the UFC doesn't have a super heavyweight division.
>>683896845
Answer op
>>683896508
nigger is a term that defines either skin or attitude. By one definition, all people of color apply, by the other, 4chan meaning, others apply. I only accept real non 4chan terms as binding, thus you are full of shit
>>683896779
Holy hot god fuck, we hooked us another one boys.
You realize I give absolutely zero shits about you right?I responded to about 80 arguments, I spent as long as it took to type those 3 sentences on yours. Why bother writing all this shit if you dont have some serious fucking dick up your ass about this topic. Fine give me a minute to read your litany of shit,
Mexico is number one
>>683880661
I'll have what he's having
>>683889125
/thread, ive been waiting for this
>>683897310
Didn't you just confirm my statement on niggers then? OP is full of shit, everyone.
>>683896881
>Because some people deserve shittier things than a break up, like getting a taste of their own medicine
Wouldn't you say that's juvenile and ultimately pointless? And then what, are you supposed to let them catch you in the act?
If someone is cheating on you clearly they don't value the relationship so what good would it do to cheat on them back?
Remember this is regarding a significant other not some high school tramp. Someone you had a real emotional investment in and planned a future with.
>>683889125
This
>>683896779
jelly fish dont have brains, im talking about them now, a shrimp is not conscious, I am goddamn certain of that.
maybe if you can define consciousness in wishy washy enough term to apply it to something with a brain the size of a few grains of rice, you shouldn't throw stones about my defs of pain. My point is simple. You point of moral disctinction is VAGUE and to some degree ARBITRARY,
>Twin_Oaks_Community,_Virginia
why would you give me such a strange small example. Fucking government by dice rolls could work in a small community, small communities are faced with a 1000th the issues of a country.
>radical leftist theory
Im sure the folks with those degrees really have to study hard and not just agree with their professors to get As like every other political degree with more than one adjective.
So, you have no large scale example because none can exist for complex reason I dont understand because I have a real degree. I have no idea why you are so confident then?
Btw, by the nature of this thread, I could agree with you and wasted all this energy.
Determinism renders free will impossible.
>>83879797
Feeding live animals (Ie. Rats) to pets (Ie Snake) is sadistic.
>>683879797
The meaning of life is fleeting. It comes and goes, without ever adding any new meaning, because it is subjective to the person experiencing it.
>>683897310
Get the fuck out of here, you fucking dip
>>683896845
>>683897490
See above you unoriginal fuck
>>683896859
pretty sure black science man is here, beats me. Hes not every afraid of neutons cradles
>>683896900
why you argued against a meme argument, and steel isnt a blanket term, steel types and properties vary fuck git
>>683896943
S e e a b o v e, you unoriginal fuck
>>683897137
so he could beat anyone but not those with a condition that makes them better fighters? fair enough. Ill accept that concession
>>683897362
*uno
>>683897490
You goddamn wont. My fiance made this for me
>>683897529
THIS FUCKER IS STILL THIRSY for trolls replys. If I wasn't dead inside, Id fall out of my chair.
>>683897637
try reading the second half fuck tard
>>683897896
no I wouldnt say its juvinille and pointless. Pretending righteousness is immataturity is part of whats wrong with the civil dad mentality so many have today. Some people deserve shit and I enjoy giving it to them, end of reasoning
>Remember this is regarding a significant other not some high school tramp
you can have a highschool tramp as a SO, I dont recall you making stipulations about the nature of the relationship in your original post. maybe Im wrong, check for me.
>>683898365
That agrees with my point, only that def is real. thus your original statement is wrong
>>683897913
thirsty is samefagging now, WWE reactions.gif
>>683898229
free exist exists within the constaints of determinism. I make choices, events DETERMINE what I will DECIDE, doesnt change the fact I am deciding them.
>>683898294
it can be, but if you dont take pleasure in it, it isnt.
>>683898327
>its this exact specific thing
>cuz its different for everyone
wat?
reached the bottom motherfuckers, whose your god now?
>>683879931
this one wins, I cannot argue with doggy. GG
>>683898961
>Pretending righteousness is immataturity is part of whats wrong with the civil dad mentality so many have today.
Please elaborate because I don't understand your meaning here.
>Some people deserve shit and I enjoy giving it to them
Do you find joy in hurting the people you care for?
>I dont recall you making stipulations about the nature of the relationship in your original post. maybe Im wrong, check for me.
>Cheating on your significant other is not ok.>>683890664
>>683879797
Why you shouldn't end your life
>>683899877
elaborate:Pretending that someone being justifible righteous about giving someone what the deserve is petty or stooping to their level is innane.
No, but if someone does something that for whatever reason was bad enough for me to cheat on them then I obviously dont care anymore
I meant SO, you said it wasnt a highschool slut, you didnt originally say that, SO can mean any kind of relationship including open ones
>>683899971
thats not even a sentence? I shouldnt end my life because I enjoy it. Is that what youre looking for?
>>683887984
>shitty grammar
>using words incorrectly
>>6th grade vocabulary
>>thread got boring pretty quick
>>683897310
You sought to have an argument. I am providing one. You have indeed told me, or rather implied, that I am wrong, so you are free to ignore me and continue your pointless thread. You have yet to prove that I am wrong, however, and you have thus far provided ample evidence for me to conclude that you will not and, quite frankly, cannot.
Take your time. I'm not expecting much.
>>683898042
How are you certain that shrimp are not conscious? What exactly is consciousness? I define consciousness as an state of awareness about one's own experiences and surroundings as facilitated by a nervous system which is sufficiently complex enough for consciousness to emerge.
Jellyfish have nervous systems and many species have nerve-net concentrations which could potentially classify as central nervous systems. Given the lack of evidence for consciousness or nociception in jellyfish, many vegans believe that there is no strictly moral obligation to abstain from consuming jellyfish, though some still object on ethical or ecological grounds. I don't know why you chose jellyfish as your objection to veganism, though, since jellyfish is arguably considered a vegan (or borderline vegan) food.
You asked for an example of a "socialist government" which has been successful for approximately 50 years. I provided one which roughly fits that criteria.
Degrees are just employment padding as dispensed by institutions of indoctrination for being sufficiently orthodox and capable of performing the tasks required by one's socioeconomic role. In order to understand radical leftist theory, you need to simply study it and apply critical thinking skills to it. No degree necessary.
You might agree with me, and this might just be an elaborate ruse as performed in accordance with the rules of this thread, but I doubt it.
>>683880661
Prove you aren't a faggot.
Protip: You can't.
>>683900702
I type the way I fuck, imprecisely and quickly. Sorry I didnt entertain you, your highness
step up to bat and make a claim you puke
Bernie, Hillary and Trump are all awful choices for presidency.
>>683900950
You think the way you type also.
OP is not a virgin
/thread
>>683900849
I thought you were done salty #2, so nice to know you spend another 10 minutes of your life on another pointless 5 paragraphs.
give me a moemt to read dear
>>683900867
prove you arent an unoriginal fuck who didnt see this posted 7 fucking times
>>683900972
presidents have little effect, Id agree if there was some magically great option but there isnt
>>683901078
step up to bat, puke
>>683901083
I am an anal virgin
>>683900409
>Pretending that someone being justifible righteous about giving someone what the deserve is petty or stooping to their level is innane
You said:
>Because some people deserve shittier things than a break up, like getting a taste of their own medicine
To which I said:
>If someone is cheating on you clearly they don't value the relationship so what good would it do to cheat on them back?
You have yet to answer this question.
By SO I meant someone you were involved with that you would not want to be cheating on you... I figured that would be obvious.
Also please answer this:
>Do you find joy in hurting the people you care for?
>>683901265
There is no such thing as an "anal virgin" virginity is defined as the state of never having had sexual intercourse. You've lost, but good try though.
>>683879797
Existencialism didn't add shit, it has all been said before again and again even, and proff is vacuity in buddhism. Philosophy is an extended poem, where everything has been said before and nothing is new
>>683900849
Your first beautiful paragraph basically says I didnt prove you wrong, and Im wasting time on you too. Im enjoying myself and spending 1/10th the time you are typing to each other.
Also, I have refuted each point you made
>How are you certain that shrimp are not conscious?
I am not, but it seems pretty goddamn likely they aren't. The benefit of the doubt argument is stupid, you cant prove something so you demand everyone act like it is, just in case.,
You have your own defintion of consciousness that fits a shrimp, how convenient,
>potentially classify as central nervous systems
if you ignore the definition, yes
The fact jelly fish is vegan shows how arbitray that line is.
> No degree necessary.
then why can I not understand those concepts without the degree, which is what you said?
You doubt Im faking my position because you want and enemy and you want your time to be justified and not pointless. Believe what you want to be true seems to be your biggest problem
Evolution is true
>>683901275
>>If someone is cheating on you clearly they don't value the relationship
that isnt true, there answered
joy hurting care for?
no, i did answer this here>>683900409
>No, but if someone does something that for whatever reason was bad enough for me to cheat on them then I obviously dont care anymore
>>683901265
I'm bored and waiting to feel tired. Keep in mind that I'm entertaining this argument principally for the audience, not its participants. I seriously doubt that you, or any of the other anons who respond to me, will actually be open to persuasion by my arguments. Some of the lurkers may, however, and that is almost always the bulk of the populace.
why this ridiculous show of pseudo intellectualism?
>>683899407
>free exist exists within the constaints of determinism. I make choices, events DETERMINE what I will DECIDE, doesnt change the fact I am deciding them.
If your decisions are determined for you they are not decisions at all. It's merely the illusion of decision making.
>>683902216
Dude your posts are exceptionally hard to read.
>No, but if someone does something that for whatever reason was bad enough for me to cheat on them then I obviously dont care anymore
So your argument is that it is ok to cheat on someone who has hurt you?
How does that refute my original post which is:
>Cheating on your significant other is not ok.
If they hadn't cheated on you in the first place you'd have no basis to cheat on them back.
That's like saying "it's ok for me to punch someone if they punch me first". When in reality it's not ok to punch anyone to begin with.
You're going to lose this debate.
>>683901549
i have never have sexual intercourse in my ass
>>683901778
everything had to be said first once, also, what you just said is philosophical point, do you think your own statements are shit?
>>683902090
typical monkey man garbage. microevolution true, full scale development, unobserved. a sliding chain of species could represent some divine force tweaking creation as readily as some convoluted process.
>>683902295
>for the audience
maybe i mixed up my cucks, but didnt you say no one is paying attention to me?
the fact you actually think you are doing some good in the world with your boring ass paragraphs shows how deluded and free of true purpose in life you are.
>>683902373
why this ridiculous show of 6th grade vocab? to answer, because that what happens when dumbass explain their opinions, I am playing the role of dumbass today, pleased to meet you
>>683902445
PEDantic, imagine determinism doesn't exist but a guy gives you 20 dollars so you take it. Does the fact that the mans actions determined what you would do make choice to grab the dollar a false choice? Influence doesn't equal false choice?
>>683902910
>ok to cheat on someone who has hurt you?
sometimes
not ok=never ok
sometimes ok means that is wrong
>If they hadn't cheated on you in the first place you'd have no basis to cheat on them back.
what if they killed my dog? is it ok to cheat on them then?
You didnt say, its not ok to cheat on someone, not its not ok to cheat on them unless they did first.
Youre going in a weird direction now but originally your point seems to boil to
>two wrong dont make a right
>cheating is bad
>bad things are not ok
My simple refute is
bad things are ok if people deserve, which some do for various reasons
>>683903004
>PEDantic, imagine determinism doesn't exist but a guy gives you 20 dollars so you take it. Does the fact that the mans actions determined what you would do make choice to grab the dollar a false choice? Influence doesn't equal false choice?
It's not pedantic, it's precision of language. Why would I pretend it doesn't exist. The point of the thread is that I make a statement and you rebut it. There is no amorphous influence in determinism, only action and reaction, which is linear and unavoidable.
So, again, determinism renders free will impossible.
>>683903536
Oh, well I can't really argue with that. You win. What I should have said is cheating on an innocent significant other is not ok.
>>683903956
you used all the words to argue against the first 2 words of my post and forgot the rest
>>683904057
3rd concession of the night
Have we picked all the cucks from the tree?, goodnight sweet thirsty fucks, enjoy your beds,
>>683903536
>sometimes not ok=never ok sometimes ok means that is wrong
Honestly I don't know what you mean here sorry.
>what if they killed my dog? is it ok to cheat on them then?
No. Why would you cheat on someone because they killed your dog? Your wife kills your dog and your immediate response is to cheat on her? Do you realize how ridiculous that is? That's totally irrelevant.
>You didnt say, its not ok to cheat on someone
Wrong. I said: It's never ok to cheat on your significant other. >>683890664
>Youre going in a weird direction now
My direction hasn't changed. It's this: >>683890664
>bad things are ok if people deserve, which some do for various reasons
If someone is treating you poorly why not just end the relationship and move on with your life?
In this instance you are using cheating as a mechanism of vengeance. Which brings me back to:
>Do you find joy in hurting the people you care for?
You are saying it's ok to cheat on someone who has wronged you in some way?
>>683879797
Despite this really dumb thread and the poorly formed arguments, OP is actually smart
>>683902005
I am doing other activities than just typing my next response on this thread. You shouldn't be looking at the timer you start and stop between my replies as evidence of my commitment to this conversation.
Actually, after giving it some thought, I have been mixing up terms. I meant sentience, not consciousness. Apparently, I am getting tired. In any case, I will use "sentience" from hereon out unless "consciousness" is due.
If you are not certain whether shrimp are sentient, then you should not state that you are, like you did in your previous reply. At least being consistent with your wrong positions. I am not demanding that anyone act as if something is proven when it is not. I defined sentience (see the definition I erroneously labeled as pertaining to consciousness) and according to that definition, shrimp possess sentience. Shrimp qualify as sentient under most to all generally accepted definitions of sentience.
There is significant evidence that jellyfishes' nervous system are either centralized like brains or are decentralized but nevertheless function analogous to brains: http://jeb.biologists.org/content/214/8/1215
I did not say that you cannot understand such concepts without a degree, only that you cannot without a background in radical leftist theory, as in sufficient familiarity and knowledge about radical leftist theory such that you already understand why socialism can only truly exist if it is the global or dominant system.
If you are my comrade, then I have no qualm with you. I prefer you to be a comrade, not an enemy. In any case, mere banter hardly constitutes you being my enemy. Unless you are a lumpen or bourgie playing a counterrevolutionary role in society, I have no reason to consider you an enemy.
>>683903004
No, I did not say that no one is paying attention to you.
>>683904244
>you used all the words to argue against the first 2 words of my post and forgot the rest
I think you should read it again. You still haven't demonstrated why determinism doesn't render free will impossible. You just asked me to pretend determinism doesn't exist, or that it doesn't mean what it does.
>>683905321
Nope, just evidence of my weapons grade autism
>>683905254
Ill be more clear, sorry dont need to type fast now.
You say not ok, i take that to mean never ok. My argument is that it is sometimes ok, therefore you are wrong.
I would consider doing something to hurt the person that killed my dog and would consider that just
It's never ok to cheat on your significant other=its not ok to cheat on someone
I dont see the difference in those statements
>why not just end the relationship and move on with your life?
because punishing bad action is good and just
>>Do you find joy in hurting the people you care for?
No i find joy in hurting people who have wronged me that I no longer care for
>You are saying it's ok to cheat on someone who has wronged you in some way?
If they wronged me in a serious way, yes
>>683905392
>other activities than just typing my next response on this thread
I dont believe you but ok, I just could type that much that fast, especially if I was carefully crafting it like you seem to
I will agree shrimp are sentient. I do not view sentience as a state which makes it moral wrong to kill them for the purpose of enjoyment
I supposed by background in you meant studying it in college. I see now you mean reading about it on the internet, my mistake.
>No, I did not say that no one is paying attention to you.
my bad, lots of people
>>683905696
refusing to entertain a hypothetical is the sign of a great philosopher indeed.
>>683905726
>It's never ok to cheat on your significant other=its not ok to cheat on someone
I dont see the difference in those statements
You don't think there is a difference between a relationship between two 17 year olds who are just fooling around and two people in their late 20's who have been together for several years, are married, and have children?
This is what I mean by SO. Someone with whom you have developed a lasting relationship with, who you trust, and who you are planning a future and family with.
>No i find joy in hurting people who have wronged me that I no longer care for
What if they have never hurt you? Is it ok to cheat on them then?
Your argument is: It is ok to cheat on someone if they have hurt you in some way first.
Is that correct?
>>683906081
>I will agree shrimp are sentient. I do not view sentience as a state which makes it moral wrong to kill them for the purpose of enjoyment
Why not?
>I supposed by background in you meant studying it in college. I see now you mean reading about it on the internet, my mistake.
Not just the Internet. You could read physical copies of books written by radical leftist theorists—such as Marx, Engels, Lenin, Kropotkin, etc.—just as you can on the Internet. You can attend lectures, meetings, rallies, and protests supporting such ideas, if only to learn more about them as a neutral party. You can also have conversations with people who are learned in these topics, either academics or amateurs, and learn from them. Although the Internet is an extremely useful method of learning about radical leftist theory, it is far from the only one.
>>683906980
>difference between a relationship between two 17 year olds who are just fooling around and two people in their late 20's who have been together for several years, are married, and have children?
Yes there is a big difference but SO doesnt mean married with kids. You created that convoluted definition on your own. Lots of people use SO to mean the person they are dating, even if they are 17.
What if they have never hurt you? Is it ok to cheat on them then?
nope
It is ok to cheat on someone if they have hurt you in some way first.
hurt me in a serious way, yes
>>683879797
I'm reasonably intelligent. At the same time, given my preparations for the LSAT, my brain hurts. I respectfully decline your offer, motherfucker.
>>683907153
I do not owe something ethical concern simply because it can sense and respond to its environment
>>683907496
brag when you graduate law school, not before you apply
>>683879797
Liberals are cancer.
>>683907439
>Lots of people use SO to mean the person they are dating, even if they are 17.
So you're saying it's ok to cheat on someone if they are 17? See how it doesn't matter what the EXACT definition is?
>It is ok to cheat on someone if they have hurt you in some way first.
hurt me in a serious way, yes
So to you, cheating is only ok if you use it as a means to get revenge on someone?
It's not ok to do it do someone who does not deserve it?
>>683907609
You presume braggadocio that does not exist.
>>683907978
My point there was the definition doesn't matter, your point was that it did, so stop changing.
You brought up the point that a married happy couple cheating was worse than kids cheating. If they deserve being cheated on at any age its ok.
>So to you, cheating is only ok if you use it as a means to get revenge on someone?
>It's not ok to do it do someone who does not deserve it?
You've asked me that like 4 goddamn times but yes, that is what I believe. Is English not your first language, I feel like there is a barrier here.
My guess is you got cheated on.
>>683908377
>braggadocio
holy fuck we are up to 8th grade vocab to be impressive, just call him an arrogant ass
>>683906160
Conditional statements full of hypothetical are not arguments.
I'll take that as the concession that it is.
>>683908587
Conditional statements full of hypothetical lead to conclusions which are arguments, but since you refused to discuss it, I cant complete my point
>>683905726
Fair enough, if nothing else I'll respect your commitment.
>>683908510
This is a rebuttal?
>>683908792
a rebuttal requires an argument to counter, I see none.
>>683908972
Then you fail to see; I argued that I was not bragging; your response was puerile ("just call him an arrogant ass").
>>683908728
You don't have a point.
I said determinism refutes free will.
Then you said you have free will because you can make decisions, even if they're already made for you, which makes no sense.
Then you asked me to pretend that determinism doesn't exist, because reasons.
So, what is your point? Can you not articulate a free standing opinion on the topic and now you're just hoping to obfuscate until I get tired and go away? Seriously, don't ask me to play a circular "what if" game, just make your point.
>>683908421
>My guess is you got cheated on.
I have you are correct.
I'm enjoying this debate so please don't think I'm getting angry, because I am not.
>My point there was the definition doesn't matter
I agree with this, I'm not sure why you think otherwise.
>>It's not ok to do it do someone who does not deserve it?
>You've asked me that like 4 goddamn times but yes, that is what I believe.
I suppose I should have rephrased my question to this because this is what I intended to ask originally.
>If they deserve being cheated on
I'd like to ask under what circumstances do you believe it is ok to cheat on your SO?
>>683909395
>puerile
What is this, 10th grade vocab, blow out the doors
You are bragging, you literally started a conversation with yourself about the LSAT. I met so many people like this when I was in undergrad, usually it was the premed kids, but all the pre professionals had a few in this category.
>>683909761
You are incorrect. Quite the opposite from bragging, I am preparing precisely because my cold PrepTest was not as good either as I expected, or for my chosen law school. You have failed.
>>683908972
Technically something does not need to be an argument for you to rebut it. You can rebut a statement, thereby creating the argument. This means the rebutted statement was not an argument. I believe you should instead say "a rebuttal requires a counter argument, I see no statement to contend." At least something along those lines.
>>683907609
Sentience is more than simply being able to sense and respond to one's environment. If an organism is not just sentient, but is also capable of experiencing pain or nociception, then do you believe that you have an ethical obligation, principled or otherwise, to abstain from harming or consuming that organism?
>>683909465
>I have you are correct.
sorry, friend
>what circumstances do you believe it is ok to cheat on your SO?
cheating, killing pets, steal important items, destroying important items, purposely sabotaging life
>>683910072
I didnt ask why you are preparing, I asked why you started a conversation about it with yourself.
>>683910131
I bet momma is so proud of her little lawyer, careful in the real world friend, smugness gets you nowhere
>>683910262
>You are bragging, you literally started a conversation with yourself about the LSAT. I met so many people like this when I was in undergrad, usually it was the premed kids, but all the pre professionals had a few in this category.
>I didnt ask why you are preparing, I asked why you started a conversation about it with yourself.
Sorry, neither did you ask anything, nor did you quote yourself correctly. Even with my massive headache, you present no challenge.
>>683910187
Ok let me start over.
It's not ok to cheat on someone who has never hurt you.
>sorry, friend
It hurts. Bad.
>>683910152
i lumped pain in with sensing environment. The answer to your question is no. If I hook a human pain receptor up to a computer somehow and it can register the response, that does not mean I feel ethical obligation to the computer, that would require consciousness.
>>683910511
Ok, the point of this thread was to disagree with everyone on everything, but Ill let you slide since you seem determined to get me to agree. I agree
>>683909761
Not poster, I'm just gonna say though that you mockingly address the vocabulary choice of this person when you yourself are guilty of using "vocab words." Despite what you might think there are other people in the world capable of using large or uncommon words without using a thesaurus. That's not to say however that this poster didn't.
>>683910437
You started a conversation with yourself in a thread
The only reason someone would do this is to bring attention to themselves.
>>683910717
I use large words when required. I do not substitute fancy words when childish will do.
>>683910758
Incorrect—you continue to mistake glibness for braggadocio. No attempt on your part to argue the fact collapses the fact.
>>683910552
In other words, it does not matter to you if an animal is suffering so long as they do not possess a satisfactory degree of consciousness, according to whatever standard you place on that? You have no moral obligation to abstain from causing suffering to animals below that arbitrary threshold, and it is completely morally acceptable to cause suffering to those animals, up to and including torture?
>>683910365
Says the equally smug person also arguing in an argument thread lol. Oh and by the way, lawyers are people who function in the "real world" and quite well often times I might add. Hahaha it is funny to see our great debater resort childish quips about "the real world" when your knowledge and wits fail you.
Is this the right room for an argument?
>>683911092
Hey look, I can be pedantic too, look.
You said incorrect but did not refer to which of my two statement you found incorrect, not did you present alternative to either of those facts.
>>683910637
>Ill let you slide
No no no.
I don't want you to agree unless that is what you actually believe. If so, fine, and I'm glad. If not then let's continue.
Don't bullshit me anon.
>>683910828
Yes I will agree that these word choices definitely didn't seem organic. In that same sense of fairness will you honestly admit that none of your word choices weren't also a bit forced. Nothing can ruin an exchange of ideas like throwing stones over when not necessary. That's all I got :)
Religion held technology back in history
>>683879797
I'm an active Nihilist. I love laughing at the whole system. I pretend to care about the USA, but I'm actually politically active... supporting the stuff that will wreck everything. I want to see the world burn, hit a reset button. So, I secretly support Trump. I even donate what I can.
>>683911467
/thread
>>683911273
Wrong. Your second statement is an extension of the first—A, therefore B. The "two statement[s]" need not be dispatched separately.
This statement is false
>>683911165
The whole point of this thread is that, I, OP pretend to disagree with everyone on everything. You are sharing your true opinion, I am pretending for the sake of the thread.
>"the real world" when your knowledge and wits fail you.
I have a doctorate and a real job, you have a path ahead of you that has less than a 50% chance of becoming a lawyer, so don't brag yet.
>>683911296
Im not bullshitting you. Im admitting I agree, I agree with a lot of the people here, I just pretend to disagree, you understand?
>>683911566
"Listen to me carefully, Norman: I am lying."
>>683911434
I honestly dont see my words as forced. Which ones are you talking about?
>>683911467
all technological advancement occured while religon existed in the world.
>>683911470
edgy
>>683911520
so you are saying that A does not mean B, Whats your other reason for talking to yourself in a post, I honestly cant think of one.
>>683911566
>>683911659
see way above, I already discussed this one
>>683911813
Objection. Asked and answered.
>>683911467
Not OP, but I think that this definitely doesn't hold true always. Religion has given birth to influential thinkers that inspired technology greatly. Also consider the printing press, creates with religious texts in mind. Lastly look outside of Christianity, in early times many other religious officials were the practicing medical workers, I'm sure I don't need explain how this helped tech.
>>683911890
I responded to 4 people, who are you? assuming the pre law kid. You didnt explain why you were talking to yourself if so.
>>683911813
I believe this poster is not saying religion prevented technological advancement, but encumbered it.
>>683879797
We can and should stop plate tectonics.
>>683911608
>Im not bullshitting you. Im admitting I agree, I agree with a lot of the people here, I just pretend to disagree, you understand?
I get it. Your the devil's advocate. It's been fun anon.
cya later alligator
>>>683911467
>all technological advancement occured while religon existed in the world.
This is true but imagine how far We'd be along if not for the Catholic Dark Ages. Granted technology advance, but so poorly thanks to the church who feared losing followers; their source of money and power
>>683912121
12121
Radar.
Checked
>>683912015
Not a kid—changing careers. And I did explain but, to be more specific, the purpose was, and was merely, a glib response to the equally glib "Lets argue, motherfucker."
Meantime, this goddamned reCAPTCHA is not helping my goddamned headache. xD
islam is the one true religion
>>683912088
impossible to prove without a control society with technological achievement but no religious influence
>>683912121
The very earth itself is a temple, which we must respect and harm as little as possible.
>>683912221
How did you get that headache again? was it from study for the LSAT?Why were talking to yourself about that again? Horrible memory over here
>>683912221
holey shit more radar
1<2<2>2>1
>>683912291
Several religions make no absolute claims, thus they are true, thus you are wrong.
>>683912331
>How did you get that headache again? was it from study for the LSAT?Why were talking to yourself about that again? Horrible memory over here
The beauty of the written word, as long as the thread shall live—you need only scroll up.
>>683912291
>>683912422
even easier than that
islam teaches that jesus was not a son of god, but the penultimate prophet.
now jesus adamantly claimed his deity during his ministry, even teaching a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. According to his own words, if he is a liar, he is not of god, neither son nor prophet.
Also mohammed communicated with satan pretending to be the angel gabriel
>>683912567
I looked but woe unto me, I just found bullshit about not having to answer. Im sure its not that you dont have a real fucking answer.
Also, didnt you say no thanks to talking with me, you sure have done a lot of talking.
What was your career before?
>>683912587
jesus could have been lying then too though
>>683911813
Eh I saw the memetic society bit and kinda skimmed the rest. I feel using very specific philosophical terms in a normal conversation as a bit unnecessary. After looking over the thread however I don't actually see anything else jumping out at me.
>>683912790
>I looked but woe unto me, I just found bullshit about not having to answer. Im sure its not that you dont have a real fucking answer.
Then give my regards to your ophthalmoligist.
>What was your career before?
Nice try.
>>683912331
088 here. I understand that, I was just attempting to clarify. No intellectually based arguments have the benefits of being unable to be proven untrue.
>>683912877
>memetic society
Trump supporters use memetic, so I was kind of mocking them, but it definitely looks forced there.
>>683912331
088 again, Also I want to point out his statement is impossible to prove, however you can provide examples to the contray like I did a bit up with the printing press.
>>683912934
Honestly, im not being stubborn, but I have no idea where you think you answered that question but oh well
Why are you afraid to say your past job. I was a dishwasher, a lab tech, a waiter. Nothing wrong with having a lower level job.
>>683913255
Anon who used to work at comic book Shop greeting people at the door, that's it, checking in.
>>683913255
>Honestly, im not being stubborn, but I have no idea where you think you answered that question
>>683912221 ("... to be more specific, the purpose was, and was merely, a glib response to the equally glib 'Lets argue, motherfucker.'")
>Why are you afraid to say your past job.
Some careers are more high-profile than others. Any more, and I would have to kill you. xD
Eh this was somewhat fun while it lasted.
>>683913519
>the purpose was, and was merely, a glib response, i still dont see why that required you to talk to yourself about the lsat
You honestly aren't going to convince me you had some high security job you can't discuss when you use a xD.
>>683913813
Hey, thanks for coming, suck a cock on your way out
>>683913964
>You honestly aren't going to convince me you had some high security job you can't discuss when you use a xD.
I'm so sorry that glibness disagrees with you; I find it liberating. xD
Op picture shows breasts
>>683913964
Ha, this idiot can't even understand people's arguments so he insults others. I hope you enjoy that dull mind and terrible personality you have because I assure you no one else will be.
>>683914212
Eight-year-old detected
>>683914212
its not my picture, I stole it
>>683914232
what argument are you talking about?
There is no way to prove whether God exists or doesn't exist
>>683914269
Well... can't argue with that. Guess you win.
>>683914149
Oh so I guess you never heard, xD is now an automatic disqualifier of every single high profile, highly sensitive, or high security job there is with no exception.
>>683914307
Notice how i said op not op's. This states that the original post for this thread depicts breasts.
>>683914416
Gotta keep up with these things man. Shits critical to the workplace environment.
>>683914416
... as if I'm going to argue with that. xD
