>The earth is flat
>Hitler did nothing wrong
>The moon landing was fake
>Climate change isn't real
Fakt based tin foil hat expose thread.
right on everything except the flat earth. that is why all will be ruled as real when fuckheads like u open your mouth and spew your crazy shit such as flat earth, u give truth a bad name and thats why nothing u say will ever be taken seriously.
The earth has flat features
Hitler didnt always do wrong
Honestly dont know if it was faked and neither do you. Youre just blindly accepting these people are not lying. With that said it wouldnt suprise me that we did in fact go to the moon.
Chemtrails do exist. Sayong they dont is just stupid. The issues isnt in the fact that thier is chemtrails its in the argument why are their chemical trails. What is the motive if any.
Climate change is real and nobody in their right mind is arguing this. They are arguing if its man made as a cause or if its just a natural cycle. They also argue against government intervention as the epa has been puted as a scam. You pay them fees and ypu can pollute. It does nothing to stop pollution, where as if we just went after companies for propwrty damages we could take polluters to justice and have them end their harmful practices as it harms property and in some cases the humans in the area.
All in people hear a head line and then repeat it without gathering the facts.
The earth is not flat.
Hitler did something wrong, but the whole holocaust has been exaggerated exponentially (A lot of millions have been added throughout the years, and it's theoretically impossible to gas 6 million in that timespan.)
Not sure on the moon landing.
Chemtrails do not exist.
Climate change is real, there is proof of it all the way to the molecular level.
I dont get what the fuck people think chemtrails are. If the government was going to poison us, wouldn't it be easier to put that shit in our food or water or something? Not throw it around in the sky for everyone to see.
greenhouse gas where u fucktard, on the fake nasa colorings they provide on behalf of a currupt government rulled over by a handful of people. what next are u going to tell me , the pope used to be a weather man
You know Anon, CO2 isn't the only greenhouse gas. It's everywhere, and many hundred of millions of people drive their cars every day. Not only that, but we also have coal and oil.
You're probably some retarded anarchist who believes that the system is out to kill everyone. Well, guess what? It isn't.
lets ban all volcanos thensince they dont emit any c02 , or , what about wars and shit dont those planes emit co2.. but why arent they ever placed on any graph u provide me, why is it always about me and my car
there are worse gases considering the green house effect than co2. of course volcanos, cows etc. are also heating the planet, but not at this rate! it would have taken thousands of years to get where we are now without the industrial revolution and all that followed...
go fuck your ass after u fuck the hole in the ozone layer, oh wait , that too was un climate bullshit, and if it wasnt ... it , a hole in the ozone layer ... repaired itself, so they say???
We know it's a natural cycle. How much of an effect man's activities is having on the process is kind of irrelevant since the results of climate change will be catastrophic either way. The real debate is over how severe and rapid climate change will be. Pessimistic predictions put Florida under water in the next 50 years.
In the realm of greenhouse gasses, CO2 is actually one of the weaker ones. Methane and sulfur dioxide are both far far worse (they trap like 10 times as much of the suns energy or something like that) and most of the methane and sulfur dioxide that get added to the atmosphere are added by natural geological processes.
The burning of fossil fuels and changes in land use results in the emission into the atmosphere of approximately 30 billion tonnes of carbon dioxide per year worldwide. (EIA) The fossil fuels emissions numbers are about 100 times bigger than even the maximum estimated volcanic CO2 fluxes. Look it up yourself.
I agree. For the past several days I have been trying to educate the people of /b/. But could they prove me wrong ?????
You explained it yourself. They reflect 10 times more sunlight back into the earth, gets reflected back to the atmosphere again and repeat. This continually happens until all of the UV rays have seeped beyond the layer of methane and greenhouse gasses.
tl;dr it literally becomes ten times worse
It will become a verdant paradise, like the Land Before Time?
Faggots have been screaming about impending doom from global warming since before you were born. They've been wrong about everything. Every. Thing.
And so are you.
are you saying that guns were invented by the government/illuminati/nwo? holy shit you're retarded.
its like saying someone invented oil in order to burn it and to pollute the air
Some may survive, but the planet definitely won't be able to support 8 billion of us at that point. Most, if not all, humans will perish. The only things that are likely to survive will be very small creatures.
Some things can be proven through facts, not the fucking "studies" or some retarded religious or ancient prophecy. Please consider what i am saying, and instead of resorting to insults, tell me why i'm wrong.
Let me tell you what will happen. Methane breaks up into CO2 in 24 years. Check out PETM (paleocene-eocene thermal maximum) to understand how fast temperature can change.
When the sea level rises we are talking about hundreds of millions refugees. That's when the shit really starts.
Record breaking chunks of the polar ice sheets are breaking off into the ocean, leaving less and less each year and this dumb motherfucker still thinks climate change isn't real.
I'll simplify it for you.
Cities like new york will simply stop existing, because of the rising sea level, because of melting snow.
Africa and the middle east will get even hotter, which means another refugee crisis.
Species that are threatened are going extinct as we speak.
That's pretty much just scratching the surface of it.
How is this a problem? Move people from those areas and house them in tolerable areas (if this is the extreme case).
Animals go extinct. It is sad, but honestly there are plenty of animals we have never seen c and these endangered animals, are never seen anyway.
Shit i didnt know the whole earth would be enveloped in flames. Fart. Get your fear mongering outta here.
I'm describing what would happen if it got as bad as it did during the Permian extinction, when climate change transformed the face of planet and killed like 75% of life on the planet. It was caused by global warming. Once the oceans average temperate reaches a certain point, the large deposits of methane trapped in the ocean floor start to sublimate up into the atmosphere and global warming goes haywire, spiraling even further out of control.
Oh my bad, its just you scared me with the vision of the earth on fire.
>hurr we gots to move the buildings
What? Just move the people if this happens, there is plenty of space plus if all the ice melts we can now inhabit places that were once uninhabitable.
Regarding the climate/pollution thingie, following should be made clear: Whether climate change (read: temperature rising) is actually man made or not can maybe be argued about. What you cannot argue about is the pollution levels, i.e. the CO2 concentration in the athmosphere rising to 400ppm, a value that hasn't been achieved in literally millions of years. Really, that one is very exceptional and would never happen under natural circumstances (unsurprisingly, Oil doesn't naturally rise to earth's surface after 300 million years at the Gigaton scale). Doubting that this is a consequence of burning of fossil fuels doesn't make any sense. The effects on the climatic system are not clear indeed, but if we assume the theories about the greenhouse effect is true, and the numbers make sense, a temperature rising appears expectable.
Eventually the earth will mostly consist of the desert, and northern countries will have the same climate as middle eastern countries have today.
But think about it. Billions of refugees coming to scandinavia, canada and russia. We'll probably go extinct long before the earth turns into what i've explained above because of that refugee crisis. Civil wars everywhere.
You can probably already see how much the refugees from somalia and the middle east are fucking shit up in western countries.
Positive feedback cycle. Let's quickly go through it:
Temperature rises due to a stronger greenhouse effect (kickstarted by industrial revolution), permafrost soils in sibiria melt, since the soils aren't frozen anymore, they now release the methane that they formerly stored, methane contributes to warming, more soils melt, more methane gets released, it gets warmer again, more soils melt.... and so on and so forth. Run-away state, and if that happens, you can't stop it anymore.
and let them sleep in the open. yes, very bright idea. oh im unemployed because someone suggested lets "just" move millions of people to another place. theres a reason it took mankind a couple of years to establish a fully functioning system of structures called settlement.
Im not saying its undoable, you just underestimate what effort it would take. its not just about the homes the people live in. workplaces, highways, powerplants, everything has to be moved or rebuild. its doable tho. but not that easy.
Nice try trying to lump "climate change" in. Fact is that "climate change" is just an excuse for neocolonialism. Since you can't take the land of Africans by force, you're just trying to create excuses to make their resources exclusive and only available for your corporations.
It isn't. Life as we know might cease but even when 90% of the species die, the rest 10% will live on and evolve into all kind of things, just like after all the other great extinction events in the history of Earth. This is pure selfishness of humans.
no I did not say that. Im not OP, I just jumped in on your "lets move inlands" comment.
maybe its good to rebuild old shit. but you would have to move everything, despite its age or condition. that would rather cost money. its like after an earthquake or a tornado. everything is useless and has to be rebuild. some things can be used somewhere else, yes, but like i said that is a huge effort to do that.
I know, we had that in earth history lecture. that was also 54 Million years ago. Climate looked quite different then (we only have ice ages since 2.5 Million years ago, when antarctica and south america got separated).
The chances that anyone in this thread has done their own long-term climate study are pretty slim. So the fact is, all of us here are simply repeating what others have asserted. The difference is, the cc deniers are repeating what politicians say. While cc advocates are repeating what scientists say.
That first post you replied to wasn't me, FYI
The water will continue its cycle and probably rain somewhere else. I'm not too confident about exactly why it doesn't rain in the desert.
By definition, a desert gets less than ten inches of rain per year. Some deserts get no rain for hundreds of years.
First of all, ok i put you two together because you said the same thing.
So normally humid areas, will not become deserts, just because of excess heat? That is so crazy. You understand that what you are saying is crazy right?
OP here. I didn't want to make this thread solely a discussion about climate change and if it isn't real.
While it is included in the topic, please expose other conspiracy theories, too.
rebuilding buildings, moving systems like logistics n shit.
learn 2 read.
I said move OR rebuild. Rebuilding would be more efficient I guess, but still a ridiculous task. go to google earth and look at the bigger cities near the coast. Im sure it would affect around a billion people at least.
>your momma's house
into the atmosphere, then back to the surface, then into the atmosphere. Sea levels would rise and there would still be some areas with vegetation, but they would be fewer and further between. Plus rain does fall in the desert, too.
Are you seriously trying to put forth the theory that there must always be a constant total are of desert on our planet? That any time desert forms, desert must disappear somewhere else in equal amounts? You wanna try thinking about what you're trying to say?
Yes it would but do you honestly think it will be one billion moving to one location? No. The people in cities will spread out. Sure you will have to strengthen local systems, but not to the capacity you are implying. And you should not say move, because why would you move the shit? Leave it
well excuse me for believing a scientist over a politician when it comes to a scientific matter.
It's true that scientists aren't infallible, but politicians are liars by trade.
The kike race is just like everyone else, except other races are jealous of kike because of its good looks and high IQ.
Agreed to The moon landing, I had a few months deciding whether the Earth was actually flat... Or spherical but hollow. I'm still not sure about the others.
Are you suggesting that somebody is paying scientists to speak out against carbon emissions and advocate change?
Because it's the other way around, you dingle berry. The scientists who are receiving those "bribe grants" are the ones claiming climate change isn't real.
>kek'd at zozzle gif
But seriously if the ocean levels continue to rise like they have been, then by the year 2100 they'll be at the save level they are now, which is bad for carbon alarmist business and hence the ecomony.
The Sahara desert is a relatively new desert. Only a few thousand years old. It's not like some other desert had to disappear to allow the Sahara to form.
WHERE DID THE WATER GO? HOW COME DESERT CAN FORM? MUH WATER CYCLE!
>the Earth is probably not flat
>Hitler did something wrong since He lost the war
>the Moon landing was fake, I think
>chemtrails exist, I think
>climate change isn't real, it's the fact
jet fuel cant melt steel beams
there are gods, they are just superadvanced creatures who can into astral and live primarily
in astral etc.
>Climate change isn't real
thats a dumb ass thing to say. climate change is clearly real. our impact on it however cant be proven as we dont have another planet to compare. the earth naturally has changed climates long before we ever got here.
i hope you ment to say global warming isnt real.
I never implied that they all would move to one location. most of them wont spread out, they rather stick to somewhere near their new workingplace. and still, even if everybody would spread nicely around settlements that are safe, they still need everything they had back in their old city. just because their distribute all over the land the amount of people would not change. if you have 7 or 8 billion people you need 7 or 8 billion places to sleep, 7 or 8 places to give them a workplace, structures to feed those 7 to 8 billion people and so on. its ridiculous thinking that splitting new york into ten smaller cities that the amount of logistics and buildings needed would decrease.
why would I move shit? well it would cost lets say 1000 dollars for a company to move a big generator. and 10.000 to buy a new one.
>The earth is flat
just look at a sundown, this allone is enough to disproof it
>Hitler did nothing wrong
thats no tinfoil theory, its more your personal conception of morals
>The moon landing was fake
you can see some leftover stuff using a good telescope
why would anyone do this?
this one doesent even have a profiter that would want it
>Climate change isn't real
would take to long to explain to morons since you need basic understanding of physics first but tl;dr: its hotter than ever before since the beginning of measuring moron
Im not talking generators, im talking buildings like you said in your first post. And look at what happened during hurrican katrina, hundreds of thousands left the city, and they spread out.
The Rothschild banking family is the pushing force behind the whole "climate change" campaign, and they're worth and estimated 500 Trillion dollars, and their track record proves they're not concerned about the environment, but rather global power to govern the world. Hitler wrote about them in his first book.
Naturally they're going to pay men to create false reports to get what they want you mong.
Those who report accurately on the matter are the one's who have a tough life.
lets just say I admit that moving a building is stupid. rebuilding would be the right choice.
what part did you not understand? yes they fleed hurrican katrina, but where did they go? everywhere they went they needed a place to sleep, work, education, healthcare etc.
plus, they left the city from a catastrophe that left the infrastructure somewhat intact. sure, some houses were fucked up, but the streets, cable, electricity and all the wires underground were mostly intact. you had to repair a lot of shit, but you could return to the city, lets say new orleans. it works again, not as smooth as in the beginning, but it works somehow. they did not have to start completely from scratch.
Everyone knows that CO2 is a poison that's killing our planet. The science is in. the debate is over. Anyone who questions the facts is probably a Holocaust-Denier.
The earth isn't flat. It is indeed spherical and you can simply look over any horizon to see this.
Hitler is responsible for a genocide. Depending on your morals, this could be good or bad. Generally, genocide is negative.
The moon landing wasn't faked. Given technology in the sixties, it would have been impossible to fake the landing, and even harder than actually landing on the moon.
Chemtrails don't exist. Ask any pilot and they will tell you. What you see are contrails, and those are basically clouds.
Climate change is real, and what people don't ever take into account is the ocean. Water holds heat energy much more efficiently than air. The great barrier reef is bleaching, almost 50% is actually, and anyone who knows about dinoflagellates and coral understand how sensitive they are to temperature.
"But because their money has been divided among so many heirs, they never show up on any “Richest People In The World” lists. Their exact net worth remains a mystery, though estimates have it at around $400 billion."
In debates, the best globe earthers are armed with science, math, and geometry. The best flat earthers are armed with "doesn't make sense", "I don't know", "NASA Lies!" and "conspiracies everywhere!" ...and flat eathers wonder why the rest of the world doesn't take them seriously.
I capitalized the 'T' to emphasize the Trillion. That's 500 million millions.
In other words, if you had 5 million dollars, then the Rothschild family would have One Million dollars for every penny you had.
What's interesting is that even with their ridiculous wealth, they're still getting their asses kicked by the truth, which is 100% free.
The funny thing is, in the scientific community, there REALLY ISN'T much disagreement on climate change. Nobody is saying baked alive by 2017, obviously, but the consensus is that climate change is going to be a serious problem for future generations. The only people acting like there's no problem are people with no scientific background.
Climate change is happening. Is it man made? I don't know. What I do know is that I have never heard of a single negative consequence of climate change. Millions will die? Good. Every major problem in the world (including climate change if it is man made) is caused by there being too many people. If climate change kills lots of people then it might just be a self correcting problem.
The way we are tackling climate change is also completely retarded. We are spending untold trillions trying to reduce CO2 when all the predictions say that even if we all implemented all the proposals at Kyoto and Copenhagen, (which is not even near ever going to happen) we would end up redcucing the temperature at the end of the century by between 0.1 and 0.3 of a degree celsius. For a fraction of the cost and without limiting the economic development of lesser countries, we could essentially just build flood defences and install aircon. Humans are dumb as shit though and love to think that they are saving the world.
Meet Roy Spencer, climatologist.
He designs satellite measurement instrumentation for NASA, to study the behavior of the climate.
He understands that you are incorrect.
You should look him up and watch his lectures. He speaks the truth without trying to bullshit you like the climate-alarmist knuckleheads.
They can't but they can weaken steel beams compromising a building's structural integrity.
It's not like it's just gonna kill the people. It's gonna kill everything. The people will be the last to go, since we have the power to regulate our environment (buildings, air conditioning, etc). It's once everything else goes extinct, that's when we're gonna be fucked. The amount of time it will take the earth to recover and return to a more stable climate could be too long for the species to make it. Humanity could theoretically go extinct if climate change gets bad enough.
Nope, just completely wrong. Even the worst predictions say a 4-6 degree rise which would kill off a good amount of species but it would still allow life to flourish. The most trusted prediction say a 0.6 - 2 degree rise. For every yard of land we lose to the rising sea temperatures, land at higher altitudes that is currently not suitable for agriculture would become prime real estate. No predictions say that climate change will sterilize the earth, don't know where you are getting that from.
Incorrect on both counts.
They aren't on the Forbes list because they operate in the shadows, and don't want to be on the list.
400 billion is couch change to this kike family.
They have enough cash to buy a solid block of gold the size of WTC 7, if such an amount was even ever mined.
They could pay off the US debt plus entitlements 7 times.
They are behind the swindle that devalued the US dollar from $20 per ounce of gold in 1913, to $1300 per ounce now. That's a 98% devaluation.
Where do you think all that massive wealth went you child?
>completely removing the most used form of transport, which is used by nearly everyone to get shit done is a good idea.
Theres a reason theres such a huge focus on cars that use clean energy, we need all transport to be like that if we wanna take away gas pumps or the world would be fucke anyways due to the economic fuckup it would create.
Actually I researched it, and we're both wrong. The Rothschild family net worth is actually around 500 thousand dollars total, which is still a lot, but that explains why they aren't on the Forbes list.