Can some explain in a nutshell, why this man called Donald Trump is being called a maniac?
Besides the Mexican wall thingy, he has not said anything remotely weird, and even his wall reasoning is fair, he wants the illegal immigrants to leave. The legal ones would be happily allowed.
Give me solid reasons, if you don't have any, you know you're a loser if you vote for anyone else.
Bonus question : What's up with people guessing he's gonna hand over his nomination to Shillary on a silver platter?
i'm a republican and he is not conservative at all. he should not be allowed to run as a republican and the GOP leadership failed us. i will be voting for anyone else but trump.
Because he said himself he would be ok with defaulting the US dollar and declaring bankrupcy for the US destroying the economy because he dosnt understand a national economy is not the same as a private company.
He would be ok
Defaulting on the dollar
He is ok with destroying the US economy and damaging the global economy as he has no idea how a national economy works.
I don't care who you are that had to raise a red flag for you.
Literally wants to fuck relations with china over a bit of money. Deporting all illegal immigrants aside from it completely destroying the farming economy (white people are lazy as fuck, mexicans do the fucked up jobs) would tale massive amounts of time and money. I'm all for racism but this nigga will fuck everything up.
He talks about doing x and y but I doubt most of it will happen. Electing Trump is a fucking retarded move regardless of your opinion on him because half the world actively dislikes him. He's not popular, for fuck's sake parts of the UK legitimately wanted him banned from the country. The US would be better off with Sanders or Hillary because of all the hate he has.
I'm actually a Democrat (well, more of a centrist, but left-leaning) who agrees with him on everything immigration (besides his obvious personal racism). The thing about Trump is, he doesn't have a plan. Whatsoever. The wall will never work, he has no idea what to do with ISIS or anything Muslim-related, and he's really only in this for the attention/publicity/popularity. That said, I think our government needs someone who isn't a politician (especially fucking Hillary), because 99% of them are corrupt, and money is the last thing Trump needs. I would vote for Bernie Sanders if he wins the primaries, but he won't. So I guess I'm gonna have to vote for Trump and hope that he elects a VP who at least has some solid contingencies.
>why this man called Donald Trump is being called a maniac?
He's not a maniac. he's just a narcissistic douche-bag who thinks his shit doesn't stink because he inherited a shit-load of money from his daddy and, so far, has managed not to blow it all on hookers and drugs. He got tired of being a shitty reality show star and now wants to play at being king of the world. He is not qualified to be the president of his home owners association much less president of the united states. He's managed to gain a following among the ignorant rednecks in the red flyover states by spoon feeding them bullshit they are too stupid to realize is all lies. Fuck him. Fuck him in the goat ass.
He supports the proliferation of nuclear weapons rather than preventing other nations from having them. Doesn't have a basic understanding of any of our military programs.
Supports defaulting the American dollar
Supports heavy import taxes that will skyrocket the cost of goods.
I'm sure others will have more.
His politics are irrelevant to me, insofar as his race will end the Republican Party as we know it, and this is a desperately needed change.
What continues to be stupefying is the amount of love this man generates.
He's been, very publicly, the most petty, vain, narcissistic bully; a picture perfect case of the quintessential Rich Asshole.
And this has been going on for decades....
He treats the world as his toy.
I wonder how much he paid the judge for this one
yes, his plan is to devalue the dollar. when you have enough money, you can make a lot more knowing when this is going to happen. him and his friends will make a lot of money and that;s it.
he's already said americans make too much money. he's not going to help you at all.
sure they can you moron. the primary is not covered in the democratic process. parties can pick their frontrunner any way they want. people not picked can still run in the general election.
learn how the fucking process works faggot
You simply have no idea what he really wants to do.He's flip flopped on so many things and then claims the "art of the deal" will change many of the things he claims to want.
Every other one running has years of political experience and supporters, good or bad things they've done. you know them all. every other one is worried about their political legacy. They all want futures in politics.
the difference being Hillary did nothing wrong.
Trump is currently named in 169 federal lawsuits
one hundred and sixty nine FEDERAL LAWSUITS
The traditional lawyer-sociopath politician and ignorant libtard sheeple (web "educated," cannot actually read books) who blindly follow, and those who most benefit from nanny state govt (welfare, et al), are the only ones saying Trump is dangerous. All the rest know that he, or someone like him, is becoming increasingly necessary to keep the US the US.
Bernie turn it over to the devil incarnate? Not until the shoe drops on the FBI investigation. If Clinton establishment influence is somehow big enough to whitewash the entire C foundation and CGI, then Bernie will bow out. Corruption will have become too big to fail.
It would still be a lot better than trump.
But actually what i'm hoping for is that the 3rd party candidate takes enough left leaning from trump and enough right leaning from clinton, to win. it's possible this time around.
Yeah lets ignore what comment gave him a following
its hilarious how many people forget this guy always played an asshole rich douchebag when he acted literally almost still in character
>All the rest know that he, or someone like him, is becoming increasingly necessary to keep the US the US.
You devalue the dollar all your dollar money becomes worthless and you tank the global economy makeing all other currencies worthless.
How do you make money by destroying all currency systems?
It's like saying I'm going to get mote pizza by closing out all pizza shops.
>implying running the white house a one man show.
>implying he doesn't have an arsenal of think tanks that do that thinking part
>implying the greatest country of the world is run by a single fucking person on his own
get educated moron
so what are you implying?
ooooohhh she "broke the law" everyone breaks the law. shitty email server maintenance. oh man, that wills surely be in the history books. "what's an email?" some kid will ask a hundred years from now when talking about our 45th president.
He, along with Hillary are establishment candidates to the T. Hillary is corrupt and paid for by people like Trump. Trump used to buy politicians, is therefore corrupt and as much the establishment as politicians (as he's the benificiary of poitcal corruption).
He wants mexico to pay for the wall which is illegal and immoral.
He says he'll control chinas tariffs (which he cant)
On Politifact most of his statements are false, a few of other candidates (Kusich, Rubio, Hillary, Sanders much less than half).
He is a con-man of the highest order. He talks in sophist manerisms: "I'll have the best with me, I am the best, nobody can beat me" with no meaning but a vague message so he has no policies.
Raped his wife.
Supported bby KKK and won't dis-avow them.
Cruz's dad lol?
TLDR: He's pretending to be anti-establishment when he's been profiting from the establishment for years and is litterally the benificiary of corruption.
Uh huh. Quote back your "powerful" conviction with yet more Web links.
What you've omitted here are the hundreds of others which state opposite opinions.
Sheeple. I suppose it is too much to expect some to learn enough to think for themselves.
>Hillary 100% broke the law, dude
number of federal lawsuits Hillary is named in: 0 (ZERO)
number of federal lawsuits Trumpy is named in: 169 (ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY NINE)
my original post is here: >>683752549
meanwhile please do enjoy this fine link:
>besides the mexican wall thingy
And why is that a bad thing? That will help stop the illegal immigrants from getting in without the passport and registration. Do you know what happens to the aliens? They work in conditions similar to slavery and they cant do anything about it, since they are illegally there in the first place
the lawsuit was filed. there's no way to get around that fact. here's the full text:
still patiently waiting for that lawsuit...
many "modern" countries have walls, fuck macedonia just built one between themselves and greece, spain has one to keep out people from crossing the channel. Its just a road turned vertical (which we have 100's of interstates going all over the fucking place), china was able to build almost 3 times longer over a thousand years ago. It's a small expenditure. Personally I could care less, because i'll get a good job. just saying it's not ridiculous.
This is a throw-away election, that will discredit the entire election process, and the united states.
People are voting to vote against another candidate. I care about my country but not about the typical voting public. If people are really buying into, and voting for Trump, to "go against" the establishment, then the country is really fucked. "Make america great again." just about the most generic, plain, dumb-guy american "slogan" there could be. There is, and probably will never be a "good" candidate. Ever.
My wife hails from toronto, well that being a pretty big reason, on the other hand I don't have an issue with the cost of living. Getting a shift from my current employer to it's toronto branch wont be a burden as well. So I was either going for Vancouver or this, settled for this.
We aren't a huge family, plus I always fancied living in a fairly diverse population.
where are you from?
that's just it. there's a fence and in many places already a wall. Trump has even said he's not planning on building a new wall, but his monger supporters just hang on to that bullshit like a pit-bull hanging on a nigger.
>n a recent interview with the New York Times, Trump said nonchalantly that his signature campaign promise, the building of a “huge” wall to keep all the rapey illegal immigrants out, is simply an applause line to hoodwink his dim-witted supporters into hooting and hollering.
>You know, if it gets a little boring, if I see people starting to sort of, maybe thinking about leaving, I can sort of tell the audience, I just say, ‘We will build the wall!’ and they go nuts.
I wouldnt change my opponions on any of these threads there composed of bait and words like "thingy".
But sure trump 2016 you'd be a blind man to think anybody else is going to win.
>But sure trump 2016 you'd be a blind man to think anybody else is going to win.
obvious troll is obvious
This is actually sort of a reason I like Trump. Often the best leaders are people who will rely on experts who know better and decide based on their input.
I have a feeling Trump will be more likely to listen to what an expert has to tell him.
that's just dumb talk. ross perot had the same idea. whenever anyone asked him what he would do, he said he'd get a committee together. it's dumb.
ps every politician listens to their experts.
if for powerful business and news media, Donal Trump is bad! then it is very good for people of your country !!
according listen to an economist, it is because he did not want to do business veneficiar companies. because he wants to earn more money working people.
(Remember! Always do the opposite of what they say media communication news media !!)
Vote libertarian. Get over abortion and the gays, god never said you have to do all you can to stop others from sinning, and gays are great for the economy and abortion can help slow the nigger population.
problem is current politicians, they just get "scientists" who will back their current political policies in order to maintain or gain power. Usually using little to no scientific evidence.
i really don't care much about social stuff. i'm an old school republican who wants people to choose their own path. i might not agree with them on certain things but the government should not be involved - in allowing or forbidding these things. less government, less taxes and military used only when necessary but kept strong.
there are a dozen reasons to not vote for trump before you get to racism. fuck minorities. i dont' care aboue illegal immigrants either. they dont scare me. they're here? ok. try our best to root them out. but it isn't something to pick a president based on.
you'd think you would've wised up by now. I guess older isn't always wiser.
Just one issue of many. But calling for people who come here illegally to be held accountable, or calling for steps to be taken to prevent them from coming in the first place is not even in the same universe as racism. But for the liberal, it's considered being mean to someone who is not white, therefore it's raging bigotry.
Every city with a high gay population is very affluent. Even in nigger infested Atlanta the gay neighborhoods are rich as shit. Gays are often very rich, they don't have a whiney woman destroying their spirit all day so their minds are more awake and ready to take on the work day.
well good for you, but even with your special snowflake of a vote he has 0 chance of winning.
The Whiney Spoiled Libcucks
People act like building a wall is some kind of monumental task, and that doing so for the purposes of enforcing the border and immigration laws already on the books is somehow racist.
i don't care that he's racist but it's probably the shit he's said about mexicans that make people think that. for 90% of america, mexicans are not a problem at all. they're some of the most docile minorities out there. compared to gypsies, which infest europe, they are downright pleasant. they don't try to make america like mexico, unlike muslims. they are also the least problematic of all hispanic races.
i'm white and make a decent living with good health care. i don't care about any of that. but i still will not vote for trump.
Everyone else has jewish corporations in their pocket and since Trump is self funding himself, no corporations can have their agendas pushed.
They'll demonize him as hard as they can, but people are fed and are flocking toward him because of the way shit has gone on.
The end game of the immigration issue for libs is to open the floodgates and grant citizenship to as many of these guaranteed democrat voters as possible. If the immigrants in question were highly religious conservative eastern euros, they have a quite difference stance.
But once that process is defined, they can't say who is and is not allowed to navigate that process. Anyone can run. The gop can't keep a candidate out because they don't like them. Maybe you guys are in 8th grade civics. It is kinda early in the morning
Considering people like me wouldn't admit to a single person that I was voting for Trump I doubt there's any way of confirming that. There are probably a lot of other people out there like me - seeing the constant insulting of Trump by the general population and many violent rage filled attacks on his supporters so they choose to keep it completely to themselves. You better start applying for your Visa now buddy.
>implying he isn't really named in that lawsuit.
>implying you aren't fucking retarded
have you ever been to europe? ever had a run in with fucking gypsies? i have. i travel a lot. ever had argument with a drunk nigger? i have. ever had a mexican even raise their voice? i have not.
see this is the problem. this is why trump's nonsense gets votes. it has to be black/white for you dumb fuckers. one extreme or the other. the system is perfectly fine right now. can it be better? yes but it's absolutely fine.
america is great. can it be better? of course but it's already pretty fucking great.
"In the early 1940s, Byrd recruited 150 of his friends and associates to create a new chapter of the Ku Klux Klan in Sophia, West Virginia.
According to Byrd, a Klan official told him, "You have a talent for leadership, Bob ... The country needs young men like you in the leadership of the nation." Byrd later recalled, "Suddenly lights flashed in my mind! Someone important had recognized my abilities! I was only 23 or 24 years old, and the thought of a political career had never really hit me. But strike me that night, it did." Byrd became a recruiter and leader of his chapter. When it came time to elect the top officer (Exalted Cyclops) in the local Klan unit, Byrd won unanimously."
gotta agree, come from Texas, and Mexicans are fucking awesome, but at the same time every one i've met wants Trump... They don't want more Mexicans taking dope operator/welding jobs where you can make 30+ an hour with high school educations/certifications
lol, wow he beat Ted Cruz. I'd rather have lice than Ted Cruzes, pretty sure everyone would.
I've also lived most of my life in big cities and have experience with all different minorities and I agree with him. Mexicans are generally easy going and just want to work and take care of their families. They're certainly not loud rambunctious niggers. They're not the brightest bunch, but they generally want to avoid trouble and confrontation and aren't begging for handouts or acting like we owe them anything.
In short, we gotta figure out a way to get these niggers back to Africa.
Seriously, couldn't we disguise it as reparations? We could say to make up for slavery we're sending them back to their homeland.
send me a postcard from Canada when Trumpy loses
when fox nooz isn't dumb enough
>muh Trump the Incorruptible
Do you think money is all that corrupts our desires? Losing some of his corporation revenue is chickenshit to the obscene amount of Power and powerful friends he could exploit in office. This is 2nd Grade level shit.
don't forget his new Burger King commercials
I shall never fight in the armed forces with a negro by my side ... Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.
— Robert C. Byrd, in a letter to Sen. Theodore Bilbo (D-MS), 1944
Yea you are right.
We should start getting our information from poorly made wordpress websites that act like 'news' websites, but in fact spew utter shit (redstate.com) without 0 evidence provided in their articles.
I can literally set-up a website like redstate.com in 20 minutes and start writing bullshit articles that idiots like you would believe in a heartbeat.
>being this autistic and retarded
whichever one wins the democrat nomination. I'd prefer Bernie, but I'll settle for Hillary. Either one is an infinitely better choice than Trump.
thanks, I am pretty amazing if I do say so myself.
Yeah, lets all vote for the candidate that got the greatest 'investment' in their campaign and got the hand of those who invested so up far her ass that they will be controlling the country
Not anon you are talking to, but wow. The system might not be BROKEN, but it is clearly clogged up and removing some 'political experience' would be a good thing. That's why I'm Bernie first, Trump second, Hilary not in a million years.
>dad worked his ass off
>made some money
>loans son some and to get his own shit going
>HOW DARE HE, THAT SON OF A BITCH!!!!!!!!!!
Liberals sure are dumb. But hey, let's all vote for Bernie, he's gonna give us everything for FREE
Not a liberal. I'm truly center of the road. I support a ton of things Trump says, but he is way to narcassistic to be pres. Bernie is over the top communistic, but I prefer that over Trumps crazy tirades about torturing kids.
>Who the fuck goes around telling people how smart they are.
people who aren't very smart.
Trump claims he only took $1 million as a 'small loan' which turned him into a "successful" businessman although the <$200million he inherited actually pushed him into the success that he has at the moment.
No, Bernie will not give everything for "FREE". He will allocate tax money for funding of things that shouldn't cost people so much money (and this does not include everything)
Its late for me, couldn't and can't find correct wording as brain is at 5% or so right now.. much like Clinton supporters are all the time. I think some ideas are good, some are a bit much.
I have bad news for ya anon, she aint deciding shit without the investors approval first
Pretty solid point for a libfag
Though he is only accepting investments now, after he already launched his platform and did most of the investment himself (partyself). So he isnt like the puppets that will have to comply to all of the investors demands
ITT people on both sides think "socialism" means "capitalism conservatives don't like."
Socialism is an economic system in which the means of production (the factories, the businesses, etc, etc) are all owned by the government. If someone asks who your boss is, you get to say "Uncle Sam." "The government does things in the economy" is not socialism. That's still capitalism. That doesn't mean we can't argue about what the government should or shouldn't do it in the economy - we can and should argue about that. But it's still fucking capitalism.
Sanders calls himself a democratic socialist. I honestly don't know why. There is nothing socialist about the man's proposals. Europe is the same way. There are a lot of "democratic socialist" parties that aren't even remotely fucking socialist. I blame conservative media for using socialist as a scary buzzword so often that it's lost all meaning.
Democratic socialism looks nothing like Leninism. In part because (as already mentioned) democratic socialism usually isn't even fucking socialism WHY THE FUCK ARE PEOPLE SO BAD AT THIS GOD DAMNIT FUCK YOU YOU UNEDUCATED PIECES OF SHIT WORDS MEAN THINGS SO GO FUCKING LEARN THEM. But more importantly it doesn't look like Leninism because obedience to the party is an explicit tent of Leninism. As in, "obey our glorious socialist overlord Lenin or we'll shoot you in the face" was an explicit party platform. In that sense, it was basically just fascism in a different skirt. Instead of unifying people behind the glorification of a nationality/ethnicity (while executing dissenters), it sought to unify people behind the glorification of a philosophy (while executing dissenters). Surprise surprise: any politician who promises to oppress only half of the citizens will end up oppressing all of them. Don't vote for fascists, kids. It's a trap.
And you show yourself an idiot. Much like the Trump supporters do. Just because I admit his flaws doesn't make me right wing trash. The only trash are all you who try to pretend 'your' candidate is pure- all tigers have stripes... and this group is worst I've seen- been voting since 1994.
>did most of the investment himself
oh you mean when he LOANED his campaign money that gets paid back by the government?
I agree with you
Libfags have no idea what they are doing with this country and wont understand when we are completely broken on the floor
took us out of the great depression, so I'm gonna call that "pretty well"
>removing some 'political experience' would be a good thing
Perhaps we're talking about two different things.
I mean experience insofar that would give someone wisdom on how to actually run government. How the military works, learning to appreciate and cultivate some amount of foresight to global politics. You know, Presidential things.
Is there a single fucking thing Trump has done which qualifies him for that? Would you trust him to be our Commander in Chief?
absolutely nothing at all. that's the problem.
i think it comes down to these white trash poor not understanding how experience works. i'm a small business owner who has to hire people quite often. experience is separate from how well they did in the job.
>The most recent lawsuit was filed in December by Federick Banks — who says he is an American Indian Witch. He also sued the CIA director.
Who gives a fuck about the rest of the 168 pussy #fuckboi lawsuits.
Hillary Clinton sent SENSITIVE GOVERNMENT INFORMATION from her private email.
Something that if I or You did will result in at least 10 years in prison IMMEDIATELY. You dumb fuck.
Not that anon- but here you demonstrate the true problem. My candidate is perfect because your candidate is flawed is such a autistic argument you should an hero. You know it to be true- but your hatred for her doesn't make him ok.
Seems like you are thinking of removing the wrong experienced person. The people breaking the system and clogging it up are Republicunts who defy democratic will by opposing everything the properly Elected President tried to do. It is the Rethuglicans who are deliberately trying to break the government, shut it down, strip it of any function, remove all protections and generally stop it working. we need a Democratic Congress and Senate, and president to get the government working again. And Clinton, the most dedicated, intelligent and least corrupt person (who has been under continuous scrutiny and Republican smear campaign for thirty years and not once have they found any real evidence of any wrongdoing or corruption that they can stick to her - unlike all the Republican prosecutors who have tried and failed and later been convicted themselves) is the best candidate for president that the USA has seen since FDR
As American who has been to many European countries, I can honestly say the ONLY country I'd move out of USA for is Canada- if it weren't so damn cold. (before you get stupid I know Canada isn't European- that's the point I'm making).
Can't really get to upset about the average uneducated Joe not knowing about European politics. It's more embarrassing when seemingly intelligent and educated politicians talk about the horrible socialist/communist European countries.
Again. Can't fix fanboydom. Dems constantly block Republican Pres too.. just stupid cycle and you seem to enjoy it. Remember Bush trying to slow down the housing bubble- being blocked by Barney Frank and Co? I do.
More than that - he made his first millions by using New York Govt money to fund his projects and then took all the profits. and He is not worth the money he says he is worth - and he is not funding his campaign himself - it is coming in donations from all sorts and from super pacs and special interests - his whole campaign finance story is a lie (just like Bernie - 18 million from the Koch's and Carl Rove as a method of trying to undermine Clinton, who they are really scared by)
>So he isnt like the puppets that will have to comply to all of the investors demands
lol. You think Clinton is a puppet? You think Trump isn't? He will cave to anyone who puts money in his hand. Clinton has never been shown to change her vote for any subject because of campaign donations. Never. See the Washington Post for that story.
All you gave was "for answer". I see that in linked posts all the time you cunt. Go fuck your mother.
You remember that douche bag at high school who used to bully and tease fellow students?
People liked him and you
asked yourself why people liked him, especially since he's a pretentious dick head and you were the one of the few people who saw through the bullshit while the rest were all over his cock like a bunch of school girls. Well yea that's pretty much trump for you.
Would you really rather live in a theocratic oligarchy? Which is not what the founding fathers wanted, nor gives liberty to anyone. Or are you a crazy capitalist free marketeer? do you really believe that market forces will provide everything everyone with what they need to live? Or that the civil liberties that people now demand - equality in lifestyle and life choices - are not an extension of the consumer lifestyle that right wing capitalism demands?
yeah i see no problem with any of this. why would you personally care? the only reason is if you think a god will punish all of society like he did in soddom and ghamorah. which of course is dumb.
actually, that is as yet unproven. Republicans allege it, but much of what is being termed sensitive (note, not secret, top secret or matters of national security) was also being sent to that email address by officials, and passed on, rather than being generated by Clinton herself. It was also not deemed "sensitive" at the time. so really this is a whole typical republican attack - no substance, lots of allegations, and actually not that important. as for the ten years immediately - Learn to Law.
Crap. Utter crap. Benghazi was difficult calll, one among many, that went wrong - no conspiracy, no malevolent intent, and the republicans who keep bringing it up just show that they are unfit to govern because they know nothing about governing. shit happens. get the fuck over it .
Arguing with a Trump supporter
Not a fanboy - just a realist. The difference with the Democrats trying to slow down Bush, and other times the president has not had a congress/senate majority, is that this time the Republicans have deliberately tried to stop the government working completely. the latest refusal to ratify a supreme court justice is blatantly unprecedented and unconstitutional. they have used the same tactics for years, stopping presidential appointments that have always been made in swift order int he past - it has been a continuous attempt to prevent anything from being done - not a pricipled opposition to some outrageous policy, but a blanket attempt to stop any action at all. the continual attempts to overturn Obamacare - disgraceful, and ongoing - a waste of senate and congressional time, and money, and clearly not supported by the American people. It is my hope that this will be a feature of the next few months debates - how to get government working, and kick the teabaggers and corporate shills (ie, the rest of the republicans - the real bought and paid for corporate whores) out.
the hearing made the GOP to look foolish tbh
Depends on which Country. England honestly just got on my nerves. Ireland was actually ok though- that rain tho. France was mostly Africans as far I could tell, people were pretty rude- oh well, I'm amerifat expected it. Romania made my dick hard, but heard locals dissing health system like crazy. Swedes were rudest people I've dealt with- even worse than New Yorkers.