Step 1: Ask a 33 year old kissless virgin anything.
Step 2: Feel better about your own pathetic life.
>Do you not go out at all?
At the moment, I only go out sporadically. But there have been times in my early twenties when I went out every weekend.
>Are you friendless?
>Why didnt you fuck a hooker yet?
Moral reasons vis-a-vis trafficking.
I'm not fat or unattractive. My physique and looks are pretty average (pic related).
I am however seriously socially retarded.
Holy fuck you're in shape, you really need to suck it up and talk with people at a bar or something. Lie and say you're new around town and don't know many people. Then just ask about people's jobs and hobbies and listen more than you talk.
would you fuck a 4chanfag sissy if you had the chance or do you aim high???
>Holy fuck you're in shape
Absolutely average. You American or something?
>Lie and say you're new around town and don't know many people.
Since I will probably (have to) move away anyway, I could do that soon and not even lie.
dude all you need to do is talk with passion about things you are passionate about and you'll be perceived as easy going.. everyone can do it even if you are introverted retard
I never even seen a gym from the inside. I run, cycle, swim and climb. Usually one hour of either of those every day depending on what I want to do most.
You have to be kidding me. With that physique your mind must really be the problem.
Either that or your face is so ugly it could kill a child. But that's pretty fucking difficult.
OP if you're not good socially, be a volunteer or go to a place of learning. I was like that. While I didn't get pussy, at least I learned to be more social. I went back to school, thinking I'd get nothing but bullied and laughed at, only to find that more than half of the people there were buddies to me and they didn't mind me being a little bit "quieter" than the rest because I still tried.
I'm still a virgin. But that's not because I don't have friends, or I don't even have a girl or two trying to get to know me better (at the moment it's been kind of a headache). It's because of my horrible body. If I had your body I would give absolute 0 shits. I can't, because I would need surgery. For which I have no money.
The question is: Do you really WANT to get laid? Are you even interested in sex, women, relationships with women...? Because with such look you can get it anytime, the problem might be just the fact that you are just asexual, not interested in this and the only reason you feel uncomfortable with being 33yo virgin is that society finds it unusual and other people behave differently.
>Either that or your face is so ugly it could kill a child. But that's pretty fucking difficult.
My face is fine.
>OP if you're not good socially, be a volunteer or go to a place of learning. I was like that. While I didn't get pussy, at least I learned to be more social. I went back to school, thinking I'd get nothing but bullied and laughed at, only to find that more than half of the people there were buddies to me and they didn't mind me being a little bit "quieter" than the rest because I still tried.
I am still in university kind of. Not as a student, but also not really as faculty. There are still some courses I attend and there are other courses I teach.
I was thinking to start over again and enrol as a normal student and study something useful.
Yep. Although, as I said, I don't now where I will end up next.
I sound like one of those stereotypical movie-Nazis. Not that sexy, dude.
see >>683735272 for body / physique
I am interested in sex, sure.
>Get up, faggot, GET YOUR LITTLE ASS UP YOU PIECE OF FUCKING SHIT, GET UP!
Sometimes I am just chanting, like:
Internally to myself. I actually have freaked my mom out from punching my legs as hard as I can, basically to condition my legs and my fists at the same time. Seems retarded until you spend like two years doing it every day, multiple times per day, as hard as you can on different spots, and then after that time, you punch a lot harder and your legs are tough as shit, as well as your mental toughness.
I stopped lifting conventional shaped weights and started lifting only rocks which are hard to grip and balance.
That and I read a lot of stories about different war injuries. From modern to antiquity.
I make art in an art shop and sell it for real cheap. I have a nice Vine following too and folks are nice and send me money sometimes so I have this phone and bologna and cheese sammiches
I had chances to have sex when I was 15 years old with a very cute girl with blue eyes and blond hair. And again with 23.
Now I'm 31, and if a guy as OP with 33 still hasn't lost it I don't think I'll ever will.
Although by 33 maybe I'll be as in shape as him. That If i don't kill myself because I'm a loser without career.
Go where the accent is considered exotic. I'm a first generation and I've been surrounded by Mexican and southern accents my entire life. So, I've always found German accent refreshing.
Try hitting on Asians and Hispanics. Many have weakness for white guys.
31, no career, and no job. I live in Spain, with so much unemployed. In 2008 at least I had a job in a factory and I felt I was healing, but now...
I'm pretty fucked. Gonna kill myself soon so my family don't have to worry anymore.
if that's your body, you fcking asshole, you can get laid
>Would you like a drink?
>Make them talk about themselves
>Share a thing or two about you that is interesting and shit that you find funny
>Offer to buy another drink
>start making out
You're an idiot faggot
You are a decent looking faggot, good size penis. Your body type is very good, you might say it is average, and it might be from where you're from, but it still looks good.
You must be the most socially retarded, pathetic, worthless piece of shit that ever lived. That would be the only explanation for your dumbass.
I've gotten laid a fuck ton and yet would easily change bodies with you. You're fucking pathetic.
Cancer genomics. PDAC.
Das war schon immer der Plan. Geklappt hat es nie.
>>Share a thing or two about you that is interesting and shit that you find funny
This is where it usually falls apart since I am neither funny, nor interesting.
>This is where it usually falls apart since I am neither funny, nor interesting.
You don't even have to be. (especially with the way you look faggot)
You just have to be able to talk. Fucking hold a conversation that is entertaining for a half hour. How the fuck can you not do that? Are you unable to pickup on any non-verbal cues? Do you even know what a non-verbal cue is ?
>You must be the most socially retarded, pathetic, worthless piece of shit that ever lived. That would be the only explanation for your dumbass.
It's the correct explanation as far as I am concerned.
I don't. I mean, I almost shat my pants every time I used to approach a female, but I was able to push through.
>You just have to be able to talk. Fucking hold a conversation that is entertaining for a half hour. How the fuck can you not do that? Are you unable to pickup on any non-verbal cues? Do you even know what a non-verbal cue is ?
I'm not even able to hold an interesting conversation for five minutes. And what's the deal with non-verbal cues? You mean non-verbal cues that she is interested (never noticed any) or non-verbal cues that I should shut the fuck up.
>It's the correct explanation as far as I am concerned.
You just have to learn to put it together anon.
Like it or not, your body type is a body type that girls like. They like it. Trust me.
You clearly can be an interesting person, if you work in a lab or medical profession that right there is interesting. That is something that is interesting.
You also should be intelligent (or have a relatively high IQ), and assuming you aren't literally autistic, that actually means you have a HIGHER aptitude for being interesting than someone who is less smart.
You should look into studying basic pick up online. I think that would be your only hope. Have you tried that?
Ich steh auf spezialwissen, schade, dass ich nicht in uk bin.
Srsly ich bin auch total retardiert und schaffe das. Wenn du nichts zu sagen hast, lass sie reden, wiederhol am ende die letzte phrase ihres satzes in nem fragenden ton und sie wird denken, dass du ein guter zuhörer bist.schon versucht?
I'm 25 and still a virgin. Though i don't give a fuck at all, to be perfectly honest.
I just focus on my carreer for now. I prefer my rich life to a distracted life of emotional dependance and time/energy consuming arguments.
I do want to get laid, but it's just not all that important to me.
>You mean non-verbal cues that she is interested (never noticed any) or non-verbal cues that I should shut the fuck up.
I'll let you know something about women and I'm amazed that someone even needs to be told this, but women communicate primarily on a non-verbal level.
ie. You could be talking about fucking baseball with her (something that is not relevant to her at all), but if you are doing it in a way that she finds attractive, then you are doing something positive.
Alternatively. You could be talking about fucking TV shows or clubs or something. Something that is relevant to her. But if you are doing it in a way that is not attractive to her, you're not helping yourself, you're hurting yourself.
It's things like tone of voice, facial expressions, body language, subtle intonations in your voice. The reason behind saying things. That is what they actually pick up on, and are paying attention, and what will ultimately get you laid.
Most guys (especially more intelligent, logical ones) will simply be unaware of this fact and wonder what others are doing that they aren't. You have to change your approach.
Think about that.
>You clearly can be an interesting person, if you work in a lab or medical profession that right there is interesting. That is something that is interesting.
It is interesting when you are in the field. To outsiders, it's actually boring as fuck. Especially when they are used to the public image of genetics. I usually mix colorless liquids and do some statistics on them.
>You also should be intelligent (or have a relatively high IQ), and assuming you aren't literally autistic, that actually means you have a HIGHER aptitude for being interesting than someone who is less smart.
I am not smart. Not even book smart and much less street smart. I kind of slipped through the cracks at uni.
As I said, I will soon be unemployed. Contract runs out.
Oh man, du scheinst es schon aufgegeben zu haben, so wie du antwortest.
Gibt doch sicher Kurse oder tutorials wie man ein bisschen interessanter wird? Kauf dir notfalls mal ne mens health oder so?
>It's things like tone of voice, facial expressions, body language, subtle intonations in your voice. The reason behind saying things. That is what they actually pick up on, and are paying attention, and what will ultimately get you laid.
I am aware of that. The problem is: I struggle at conversation. No matter whether it's with a hot girl or my fucking mom. I barely manage to keep the conversation going and I literally have no capacities available to modify my voice, facial expression and shit. I analysed a lot of my public speaking occasions (and I was never afraid if public speaking); and while I am graceful and almost beautiful when I keep my face shut, I come over as a drooling retard as soon as I open my mouth.
Get a tattoo on your arm and one on your chest. You can show of the one on your arm, also a great topic for conversation, if she asks if you got more, then theres your chance to show of your body, cause dude, you look fine, in sure she appreciates it
Sports (running, cycling, swimming, climbing), reading (mainly science and philosophy), cooking, painting. I am also the world's shittiest pianist and currently do some urban gardening on my balcony.
>I am aware of that. The problem is: I struggle at conversation. No matter whether it's with a hot girl or my fucking mom. I barely manage to keep the conversation going and I literally have no capacities available to modify my voice, facial expression and shit. I analysed a lot of my public speaking occasions (and I was never afraid if public speaking); and while I am graceful and almost beautiful when I keep my face shut, I come over as a drooling retard as soon as I open my mouth.
Ok anon. That actually let me know a lot about you.
I'm going to mention something which is I could undoubtedly see you progressing to the point of getting laid.
The whole virgin shit I would throw out of the window in terms beating yourself up about it. If anyone asks, you're not a virgin (which they won't, but you don't want to operate from that frame)
You've mentioned a couple key things like you are poor at conversation and you can't modify your voice or facial expressions or anything like that.
I'm going to come out and say it. That's why you fucking aren't getting laid anon. You can be Brad Pitt, but if your voice is shit, and you are unexpressive, they won't be having it. Trust me. This is the shit nobody else is probably going to say.
I can maybe try and elaborate a little bit on this.
No doubt about that. But I am not good at talking about anything. My mind is fucking blocked. That has nothing to do with nervousness cause it always happens. I've read shit tons of books but as soon as I am supposed to talk about it - mind == blank.
Well first you mentioned you're a poor conversationalist. Well, it just so happens that being a good conversationalist is pivotal to both having women like you, and getting laid. I'm not saying you don't already know that.
It's pretty much impossible to teach someone how to be a conversationalist over only typing, but if I can give you one tip it's say, and do, literally whatever the fuck you want. Even if that means looking like an idiot. Well you already look like an idiot, so it can't get any worse in that respect. But if you are consciously doing what you actually legitimately want to do, you would be acting in a way that is unstifled, which is attractive.
Being the unstifled person is attractive. So if you just want to talk about some random weird shit just do it and crash and burn. If you just don't want to talk anymore, just fucking abruptly leave. Because that's what you actually want to do. Obviously not going to get you laid, but sometimes getting things like this out of your system will start to rewire you to actually want to do things that ARE socially correct.
The people who are best in any social situation are generally always doing what they want to do, but they just so happen to be essentially 'wired' correctly, so the things they do actually progress them closer to their goal.
If you're truly good nothing is forced. That said, using lines and shit can work and if that is what gets you laid, you should just do it.
>I can maybe try and elaborate a little bit on this.
Please do. And please elaborate what can be done to change it. I've had some rhetoric courses paid by the university during my doctoral studies (and I never sucked more at anything than this).
Ok. well the above comment about conversation is mine. Try to operate from that state of mind.
One more thing. Just don't let the conversation die. For people who are bad at conversation, awkward pauses often come into play. There shouldn't be any awkward pauses. If a conversational thread has ended, you can't let the conversation die.
So if a conversational thread has died down, you can try using a transition like "and so, anyway", or "but yeah..." and just immediately start talking about something else. The more relevant the better, but anything is better than letting the conversation and the vibe die down, because it can be hard and in many cases impossible to get back.
For someone who is logical thinking they have to take a logical, tactical approach to social interaction. This is the difference to someone who is unintelligent, who doesn't really put too much thought into what they do.
People who are intelligent naturally analyze things and try and organize them logically. For something like general social interaction, (and women), which literally DON'T make logical sense in ANY way, this can prove inconvenient.
Another key to developing adept social skills and becoming good women, is to accept that NEITHER make any logical sense, and you have to start operating from a completely new outlook (ideally one that is much more tactical).
But that in itself is a logical decision.
OP, here's my advice for you.
Become passionate about something. Pursue that passion rigourously. Even if you're not good at talking to people, you'll have some cool stories and be interesting to be around, and probably make some new friends while you're at it.
Get yourself into a social circle where you can be around girls, and sooner or later you'll be losing your wizard powers.
You seem to be a good guy, so I wish you the best!
wtf i'd fuck you. very good bod for 30+
seriously man i think you just need ocnfidence, you sound like a great chap
plus you work in moleular oncology (medfag here) so that just makes you more cool
maybe you're not travelling in the right circles?
maybe you've made it into such a big deal that you're afraid to make a move and be rejected? social anxiety? fear of rejection?
So in the end, it comes to down to some rewireing which is outside of my direct control. That's not good to hear.
Furthermore, I am currently reflecting if I am too inhibited or too uninhibited in conversations. I think in conversations, I oftentimes go with the flow, say whatever comes to mind. Not because of a explicit I don't give a fuck attitude but because it's literally the only way to keep things running.
>maybe you're not travelling in the right circles?
>maybe you've made it into such a big deal that you're afraid to make a move and be rejected? social anxiety? fear of rejection?
no, it's because he speaks in a monotone, doesn't make facial expressions, and can't hold a basic conversation.
He already told us why.
Those things are literally how women communicate.
>Get yourself into a social circle where you can be around girls, and sooner or later you'll be losing your wizard powers.
Most of my friends at university were girls (courses where 60 - 70% female) and at this stage, I was at least still passionated about science. Did it help? No.
>maybe you've made it into such a big deal that you're afraid to make a move and be rejected? social anxiety? fear of rejection?
I've been rejected quite a few times in my life. It's really not that bad. What's bad is mixed signals.
I will just say it, you ABSOLUTELY will need soemetype of rewiring of your outlook (not impossible) because you are currently operating from an outlook that is not considerate (and probably not conscious of) the way women really are, behave, and how they communicate.
That sort of rewiring would occur when/if sufficient knowledge and experience is gained.
>I oftentimes go with the flow, say whatever comes to mind. Not because of a explicit I don't give a fuck attitude but because it's literally the only way to keep things running.
this is actually a good thing. That was what I was referring to. It's better to do whatever the fuck you want, and have it be bad, than to not do anything at all, or not even know what you want to do.
But where you want to be, is you want your natural urges to actually be in alignment with obtaining your goal (sex), and for you to naturally talk about things that are attractive in a way that communicates social value and creates attraction.
>I think in conversations
This is a bad thing. A good conversationalist ABSOLUTELY does not think about what they are doing, will it work, any of that bs.
Again, I want to try and say the things that nobody else will tell you because it is literally the ONLY way you will learn.
What you claim to be doing is called being in your head, which is bad. You can't be in your head, you have to be operating in consideration of what is going on around you, the girl, what she is saying, and simply respond in the way that is most fitting.
But it a reaction that is based on the way you feel, not what you consciously reason in your head to be best response.
That is NOT how you carry a conversation, and that is not how you talk to women/girls.
For example, if she complimented your shirt. According to you, you would be in your head trying to figure out how to respond.
What you should be doing, is looking at her face, how she said it, why she said it, and base your response more off that.
there are a lot of different manifestations outside of the classical picture that most people think of. it's possible he could have it and have slipped through diagnostic cracks bc he hasn't been in contact with an adequately trained specialist.
even a lot of psychiatrists don't realise how much variation there is in presentation of autism spectrum
Then why are the smartest guys oftentimes idiotic with women?
It's because they try and apply a purely logical approach to social interaction (because they're more logical), when social interaction isn't logical.
I would associate autism more with simply being unable to comprehend social interaction, but more intelligent people that have poor social skills, which there are many (it's such a stereotype there's a fucking TV show about it (Big Bang theory), are simply viewing it from the incorrect outlook.
>What you should be doing, is looking at her face, how she said it, why she said it, and base your response more off that.
So my response should be more focused on how she said it as opposed to what she said.But isn't that something which still needs to be analysed and rationalised?
Go watch the Big Bang Theory idiot
For people who aren't idiotic, the socially awkward smart guy is actually a FUCKING STEREOTYPE it's so common.
I actually don't give a shit about studies because the results of studies are oftentimes applied in situations that are not relevant, and not only that, sometimes are bs.
I think one day you'll learn how common the intelligent nerd type who can't get laid is
I mean, this makes no sense. You're an idiot
Referencing a show doesn't necessarily mean something, in my case, it was to talk about a stereotype in the show (what the show is about ??)
doesn't mean I like the show.
You're a fucking idiot
A conversationalist would think, but is paying attention to their surroundings. In OP's case, he is only thinking, not going off surroundings...
This is all over your head by now. Kys faggot
>good conversationalist ABSOLUTELY does not think
>A conversationalist would think,
>You're a fucking idiot
Whoa there cowboy, there's no need to get flustered. You took a shit position, own it and move on.
You're an idiot. You don't know what I'm actually talking about
You're probably 14?
You're worthless and probably won't lose your virginity any time soon or ever. Go back to your fucking furry hentai fag
No. I didn't
I'm right faggot you're just wrong you're an idiot.
You'll never get laid fag because you're fucking idiotic
You're an idiotic faggot, dumbass
Well, obviously I am a fucking stud
That may be true, but if someone wants to question my views, they will be discredited, and possibly insulted.
In this thread, they will be insulted.
In the context of /b/, anyone who questions things I say, or views of mine, will be continually and ruthlessly insulted.
I'm very similar to OP, but older. Nothing will change over the years, unfortunately. What I've noticed is that the problem is not you. The problem is that women categorize guys and will quickly segment some types out and avoid them. As the women get better at identifying people of this type they will asses you quicker and things only get worse. Women act more as a group and become normalized as that group congeals with fewer outliers. That may cause you to simply become more isolated as time goes on. I've analyzed this for years and believe it's a deep seated nature thing to isolate some types of people out so the group becomes more singularly focused.
So is that a no on being able to detect sarcasm or any other form of intelligence?
Congratulations, you've done it! You're officially a clown ripe for ridicule. Would you like to contact your friends and family to commemorate such joyous occasion?
It could be that, but it it could also simply be that women find certain characteristics attractive, just like men, and you simply have none of them.
From someone who routinely gets laid a fuck ton... women do operate on a group mentality. But are clearly attracted by certain aspects or characteristics that are concrete. Even if you don't fit into the mold, there would be a chance at getting laid.
>So is that a no on being able to detect sarcasm or any other form of intelligence?
Is sarcasm a form of intelligence? The way you phrase that sounds odd because you're a fuck
Whether or not it would be sarcastic, I can actually disregard your intent at sarcasm because you are THAT insignificant.
Now I will stop talking about things that only an intelligent person can understand because you are clearly a fucking dumbass
>Congratulations, you've done it! You're officially a clown ripe for ridicule. Would you like to contact your friends and family to commemorate such joyous occasion?
Since I'm not a little girl and faggot like you, I don't really care if I'm ridiculed because you (or any of the other faggots) are already inferior to me. Since you're less than me, I don't really give a shit. Actually, anything you say is stupid
The way you write indicates you have education. You went out. You did tandem sky-diving. You did things with your life.
Your body is fine, your face is fine. You're still young. You can do whatever you want now.
There are probably people that cared about you, and there will be more. You are suffering, but not a loser. A loser to what game anyway ? Sex ? It can feel alienating to know that so many people consider that a major part of their life and you didn't even had it once, but sex is not life's goal. You have to set your own goal. from the perspective of many anons here, and from the goals they set themselves, you're not a loser. You just have to find your goal. Good luck OP.
not op but mdma is the tits
haha i was think today 'man i wish i could just have an antidepressant PRN (pro re nata - as is needed)
and then i realised i already do. hooray alcohol!
you're a triggered fag idiot
I've also analyzed why women are attracted to men that beat and abuse thdm. This may go back the the caveman days where brutality rules. Women of that time wished to be with the strongest, most agressive men as they were likely to be more protective and therefore had a better chance to survive against neighboring raiders and carnivorous animals. Therefore the child would have a better chance to survive. So women, and men, will act in ways that don't make sense and cause some segemts of the herd to atrophy and die out. This has lots to do with the traits of early man's development.
or bc he handles himself too much
You're completely right about that. That is EXACTLY why
Humans are still wired off their caveman "urges"... our society has advanced at a much faster rate than our brains have... so psychologically we are more or less still there.
For the type of woman that is attracted to a dominant male, they are heavily responsive to their dominance, and if that dominance is manifested in the form physical abuse, and she is very comfortable (used to) the male, and even more so, if she relies on him for any purpose (survival, emotional support) then that would definitely be a factor.
There is also a known psychological phenomenon known as stockholm syndrome which would probably play a part. I have read enough about stockholm syndrome to know what it is, but I am unsure of any ability I would have to enact it (don't want to, but I'm saying, if I had to...)
Women are something that can be psychologically controlled. That is how nature made them because that particular aspect, happens to more effectively ensure the continuation and reproduction of the species.
A position of strong psychological control and emotional reliance from the point of view of the female is the position that I prefer to operate from in a relationship.
As an intelligent male, I don't see any reason why you couldn't do the same. You have to work the psychological angle.