The separation of men and women has always been to protect women and girls in public restrooms. A transvestite, someone basing their life on sexual deviance is the last person you want to be alone in restrooms with vulnerable women and girls. Simply put, if you're some sort of freak, just use the mens room. Hell we let fags use the mens room, why not freaks.
>>683682905 I am biologically male, but I like to dress as a woman sometimes when I go out, and it makes me very uncomfortable the looks I get and the things guys say to me in the men's room when I need to pee
Seems like being in a secluded environment with intoxicated men like that is a good way to be assaulted so sometimes I just try to hold it, but its hard when you've had a few beers
Yeah exactly. I'm not going to be molested by a female to male trans in the toilets any more than by a straight forward male. Same for male to female in a ladies toilet. Its a shitting station not a church to femininity
until someone actually changes their gender with corrective surgery they are still legally whatever gender they were born as just because you think you're something doesn't mean you are something if i sexually identify as the president of the united states that doesn't make me the president now does it
>>683683457 Trans people have a dramatically higher sex offender rate than normal people. And bathrooms are very high crime zones. Tons of murders, rapes, assaults, and drug use happen in public restrooms.
>>683683276 You realize a rapist wouldn't give a fuck that he's not allowed to use the women's restroom, right? It's like saying that a law outlawing people from wearing a bulletproof vests while committing a crime would keep them from wearing said vest.
>>683683644 I hate this because when you're at a bar at 11 pm on Saturday, men are in and out of their bathroom like a well oiled peeing machine. Women, on the other hand, go in and fucking take a shower or some shit the way they pile up outside and take hours. Fuck I'd hate to lose that to PC gender neutral bullshit
No, it's not. It's accepting a simple reality. No one is saying it's right, but guess what? When you dress like a chick as a man and you go into the men's room, you are putting yourself in that position and unless you're stupid, you know what you are going to get by doing so.
>>683684052 It's not illegal to be in the wrong restroom you stupid cuck. But if it's normalized then it's a lot easier to get away with it. Just like if in stores you were expected to put all your goods in your pocket and then walk up to the counter and pull them out to pay for them.
>>683684023 >>683683790 Statistically, you're an idiot. There is very little data on transvestites; most are closeted men. These are the same fucks you need to worry about. I'm a transsexual, and I'm not going to rape anyone -- but I meet plenty of men in dresses (who want to be treated as women -- hah!) who make my rapedar fly off the charts.
>>683684089 The problem is that men who pass as a woman are forced to use the mens restrooms under North Carolina law. Like the other poster said, that puts them at risk for assault. And isn't that the whole point of this law? To reduce bathroom assaults?
>>683684350 >http www cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/cdc_nisvs_victimization_final-a.pdf doesn't mention trans people once also, this report only concludes that 'bisexual women' are more likely to report sex crimes that may or may not have occurred did you read the damn thing at all
>>683682429 >this entire fucking thread >not knowing the difference between transvestite and transgender
Transvestite: Fetishist who's turned on by wearing clothing of the opposite sex. Often inexplicably straight and keeps their fetish VERY private (I should know) Rarely if ever goes in public dressed as the opposite gender, because subjecting other people to your fetish is poor fucking taste. "Passing" as the opposite gender is less important, making their dick hard is #1 priority. Comfortable with their assigned gender.
Transgender: Born with brain chemistry of the opposite gender, wants to be treated as the gender they believe they are. "Passing" as the gender hey believe they are is really fucking important; transgenders want to, for all intents and purposes, BE that gender in everyday life.
>>683684136 I understand trannies put themself in that situation but that's not an argument to discriminate against them. They go through a lot of shit anyway so why not let them shit where they want. We can just let people go to whatever bathroom they want, which never caused any problems before.
Yeah exactly, much more cases involve trans people being assaulted than vice versa. Either way though, people are fucked up and will hurt each other no matter what the law says, but 99% of trans people are just going to take a piss and leave
God this comic pisses me off because it's so stupid. I don't care what bathroom you use. I don't care who you fuck. I don't care how you dress. But with regards to the question of whether or not you're a woman, yes, having a vagina is very important. Women have women parts. Dress like a woman all you want, but I'm not going to pretend that you really are a chick just to make you feel better about yourself. I don't lie to myself, and I'm damn sure not going to do it for you.
I'm confused can someone explain how it matters. If you're a tranny and you look like a girl like a tranny should how is anyone going to know if you're going about your business in a stall? They're not. Unless you're floundering your dick around and sowing people. If you look like a girl use the girls nobody is going to know or care. If you don't look like a girl then obviously you're not a tranny
>>683684765 >BRAIN CHEMESTRY LOL NO. And PS. Transvestites live their life as the opposite sex. They get implants, they change their name the works. Wanting to change your sex is a sexual deviancy issue. Just like being a flamboyant gay.
Fact of the matter is you're born what you're born. Almost all men think about how great it would be to be female. To be cute, to get away with murder to be expected to do less. It's great. But the majority of us understand you can't fucking do it, just like no matter how hard I wished I couldn't be a different race.
>>683685403 >trans >and try explaining this shit to my friends, that >90% of 'trans people' are just fucking pervert men >they think I'm a monster >goddamn SJW's
I believe that dysphoria is a real thing and that some people do have fucked up hormones or whatever that make them feel like they're in the wrong skin.
However, I don't think it's a coincidence that the ones you hear about are ALWAYS male to female and that makes me suspect it's a lot of fetishists and that seems like it'd fuck things up for people with actual problems. Just like how %99.9999999 of people you see claiming to be asexual just straight up can't get laid or talk to people.
>>683684874 I feel like over time this will become the norm. In many newer buildings, especially hospitals I've noticed, gender-neutral toilets are already in place (speaking from perspective of the UK anyway)
Similarly inevitable is the fact that transpeople are just going to use the bathroom of their chosen gender regardless of what the law says. It's only going to beat down the already downtrodden unpassables really.
>>683684832 >be man >trannies can now use the restroom that corresponds to the gender they identify with >decide to pretend to be a tranny and rape someone >be surprised that the woman was able to recognize me and recall the time that I raped her >be surprised when people were able ro corroborate the evidence with other people witnessing me entering the restroom at the tome of the rape But I thought that I would become another faceless unrecognizable woman!
>>683685743 I'm trans and I agree. We call those old creepy fucks HONS, they ain't trans, they are just freaks with a mid life crisis and too much money on their hands. Real trans girls pass as girls duh.
>>683683277 This is clearly bait. No one can tell the difference if ypu go to a womens restroom if you dress like a gorl faggot. You close the fucking door and do your business. That being said I have seen dudes dressed as girls come into the guys restroom and you know what I thought? That must be a dude dressed as a girl, guess what, no one was fucking assaulted. Just another faggot seeking attention.
>>683682568 Pretty much. I'm indifferent either way, OP. Bottom line is I want to go in and piss or shit or whatever. Most people are going in there for the same reason too. The thing is, you don't know anyone in a public bathroom. Dude shitting next to me could be a hitman for all I know, or they could be a woman. Makes me no difference
>>683685900 Without hormones? You aren't passable. You probably have a shit voice too.
>>683686037 I didn't say 'hons' because these fags don't know what a hon is. But yeah, every time I talk about hons to my non-trans SJW friends they think I'm making up some bullshit. Like, have you ever been to a trans support group? A meet up? They're all goddamn hons, and it's disgusting.
>>683685103 Sure, I don't really give a shit about brains and studies and shit. You look like girl, you are girl. Whatever.
>>683685142 Crossdresser is a much more broad term that's been overused in recent years. Transvestic Fetishists, or Transvestites, get boners from wearing girl clothes. It's a thing. Source: I am one.
>>683685581 No. If a transvestite makes a life out of it, it's like a bondage fetishist wearing leather 24/7. Shit's in bad taste, but it does happen. >being a girl would be sweet because social perks Sure, but if you put on a miniskirt, would it give you a boner? Cause that's what I got.
>>683686061 I pass, I agree old fucking men in dresses ain't women. Also all of you morons have it wrong, real transgirls like myself don't identyfy as female, we just are, hell I wish I could have been born normal so I could have been okay being a boy but I wasn't and now I am happy. I wish you idiots would take a look at the real issue with the old fucking creepy men in drag and stop harassing real transgirls.
Transgender is the PC term for Transvestite Transvestites are simply perverts. No one is going to demand to check someone genitalia just because "They look like they're trans" they might just be an ugly girl. There's no such thing as a feminine penis
It really doesn't need to be written in stone. If someone is in a bathroom that clearly doesn't belong in that one, they'll get told to fuck off. Watch Joey Salads video.
>>683686528 I would just think you're an ugly girl. I know plenty of girls that look like you, and I just don't know if they're dudes or just ugly. No one would ever demand to see your feminine penis because they thought you were in the wrong room.
OP's image is cringe as fuck. That's a man not a woman. Transvestite, transgenders whatever they are they're delusional, degenerate disgusting human beings and a severe minority in the world. So why should the world cater to a small minority group of sexually confused freaks? Most people don't agree with transgenders or transvestites, it's not normal.
>>683687094 Except the she is dressed like a woman, not wearing a pedobear suit. You are equating wearing a Nazi uniform with wearing normal, everyday clothes that women wear. False equivalence fallacy faggot
>>683687497 it is not normal for a man to wear womens clothing if you do not pass, it is not normal to wear those clothes if you do not pass, you do not belong in the womens restroom if I saw a bearded fat old man in a miniskirt and halter top standing up to pee in the stall next to me I'd feel very threatened.
>>683687561 It's just more practical. Whether it is or isn't a mental illness. Personally I believe it is but I say disabled for the simple fact it's their and hardly ever used. Trans aren't exactly a majority and they'll hardly ever be using a public toilet anyway. So go to disabled ones.
>>683687076 >>683687251 >Wherever you look, it's a case of "Blow you, Jack, I'm all right!" I've lived full time, never failing to pass once, for 6 years. Being concerned with others less fortunate doesn't make you a hon. Self-concern didn't get us anywhere.
>>683687963 >Just because you look like a girl doesn't mean you're a girl. well I have a vagina now so I don't even know what you mean, I pass 100% naked as a woman so why the fuck should I do what you tell me too you fat cheeto eating fuck
>>683683277 >I'm biologically male but I like to dress as a woman sometimes when I go out
This freedom thing in America is going a little too far. Certain degenerate males feel they're entiteld to dress like women and not get stare or rude comments. Honestly what the fuck do you expect? can you get real? Even in the women's bathroom you will probably get some nasty comments.
ATTENTION DUMBASSES my trans dick stopped working after just months of hormones. i couldnt rape anyone if i tried. quit talking like you know so much shit about our issues. yall acting like oh theres never been a problem with transgenders before, news flash we're out of here getting killed and living on the streets because of how you all treat us. i dont care if we're freaks to you but give us the right to a life like you would do for any other person.
>>683683780 The whole 'victim blaming' is a load of bullshit anyway because everybody with half a brain knows it isn't that simple.
Let's put it this way: If you are absolutely aware that if you go to a certain place, there is a high probability of you getting stabbed in the face. If you still decide to go, then I'm sorry, but you're partially to blame for what happened to you.
Would you put your hand in a scorching oven knowing full well it's going to give you third degree burns?
>>683682429 >Which restroom should a transvestite use, and why?
While I personally don't care, many people are uncomfortable with someone they consider the opposite gender. And if tumblr has taught me anything, it's that everyone has a responsibility to drop everything and do something once someone lets you know they are uncomfortable.
>>683688412 >If you are absolutely aware that if you go to a certain place, there is a high probability of you getting stabbed in the face. If you still decide to go, then I'm sorry, but you're partially to blame for what happened to you. That doesn't justify shooting them in the face, just because they knew it might happen
Listen, my brother is an mtf faggot. He's been on piss pills and estrogen for about a year and a half. He looks like a dude. He walks like a dude. And when he's not putting on his voice, he sounds like a dude >ps when he's putting on his voice he just sounds like a faggot not a girl It looks like a fucking dude in a dress.
He never once did anything during our entire childhoods that said that he thought he was a girl. Never once. I was more a girly faggot as a kid than him. I wanted the easy bake oven and I fucking always chose a girl character in games.
Trannies are fucking perverts. That's it. Stop letting your perversion take over your normal life you fucking retards.
This is my business when you sick perverts have a political group dedicated to the treatment of trannies and you are making your presence in the world more and more public despite being a tiny minority. you weird sick freak.
>>683682429 The one with the gender you were genetically assigned you fucking twat. You have a dick, you piss with the others with dicks. You have a pussy, you piss with the others that have a pussy. It's not fucking hard, get the fuck over it.
>>683688760 this is exactly the problem these hons make up the vast majority of trans people it puts passable girls like me in a shit situation where we have to hate other trans people and hide ourselves to survive just kill the hons so the passable girls can live free
>>683682429 I was torn on this debate for a while but I see more pros with allowing trans people to use their preferred bathroom. For one, the main concern from the right about trans people using bathrooms is the fear of things that are ALREADY ILLEGAL so it still wouldn't slide right by if some fake tranny walks into the girls restroom or vice versa. Plus just look at some trans people. There are a good amount that have gone through hormone treatment and look like a cis man/woman. They're now being forced to use the opposite bathrooms in north carolina, that's more concerning to me than them using the preferred bathroom.
But then again, why should we believe that transgender people exist at all. SJWs claim that gender is a social construct yet also try to claim that someone can be born in the wrong-gendered brain. ????? It's a mental issue that shouldn't be encouraged but rather treated. If someone woke up one day and said they felt like they shouldn't have legs, would you encourage them cutting off their legs? WELL PEOPLE ARE CUTTING OFF THEIR DICKS FOR NO BETTER REASON.
>>683682429 serious answer: the one they identify as >countless beatings and hate crimes occur when they are forced to use the one they were born as >no one will know since alot of them look like the gender they want. >pedophiles pretending to be tranny and molesting girls in the womens restroom isn't a real thing thats happening you fucking niggers
What ever gender your birth certificate says why because this country is too liberal and too "progressive" to focus things that our actual important its thugs like this that make me want to put a shotgun in my mouth
>>683688335 As if trannies are being attacked and killed in the streets. As if banks won't give a loan to a transgender person. Can you fuck off. You fags and trannies are always piggy backing off of the black's civil right's movement.
>>683689271 Too right I am, because the world is full of absolute morons like yourself who somehow lost the sense to see logic. Sadly, the degeneracy is becoming more and more common. Please stop breeding.
A person with common sense who understands logic WOULD avoid danger. So what does that make people who don't?
>>683689247 source debunking gender dysphoria? There's a lot of science behind it >>683689063 Call it what you want, they still deserve respect >>683689096 There is evidence that gender dysphoria has a biological basis
Do you know how many people had to out themselves, exposing themselves to social isolation and violence, before your transition route and whoremoans become available? How many people had to live miserable lives untreated before the condition / illness was understood at all?
>>683689449 It's funny because the only things that don't have stalls are urinals, so women would be able to see dicks, but men wouldn't be able to see pussy unless they were being creepy fucks and peering over/under stalls
I live near Oxford, Al where the city council just revoked the birth certificate gender bathroom rule. Churches are all going nuts because city not protecting the children. Of course transgendered are known to be pedophiles. I suggest a no priest, tee-ball, or Cub Scout leader rule because those guys def fuck kids.
>>683689999 Yep. But in all cases they are either Sterile or their Male Genitalia works. So better of two evils.
In a Related note, has anyone ever complained when a female entered a Men's Toilet? I'm honestly curious if any male would even remotely care. Chicks I could see complaining when a neckbeard virgin creep walked in, but I dont see guys really caring about it.
>>683682429 Some places are now creating "All Gender Rooms" where anyone can use it (but only one at a time). In places like schools, the girls are happy, because they don't have to wait in ridiculous lines anymore. Guys don't care, because they can hold their piss and shit forever without bitching about it. Trans are happy, because they are self-centered enough to believe the change was for their own sake alone, when it's not.
Most places I know don't make this change, and I imagine the trans just uses whichever bathroom they want, or the one that fits most into what they're trying to "look" like.
The only time I've heard issues about this is in this school where the girls were getting really pissed off when they let trans men-into-women use the women's bathroom. Like, seriously? It's not going to rape you...just take a piss or shit.
Honestly I'm for anything that pisses off women the most.
>>683690530 No, some very conservative god fearing old man might. But the bathrooms are separated to protect women and girls. So of course it's only natural for men to not care if women are in their restroom.
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