You're barking up the wrong tree, OP. These faggots are so brainwashed you could literally show them the hundreds of videos on YouTube of high-altitude balloons which CLEARLY SHOW THE EARTH IS FLAT, and they would still come out with some NASA-tier brainwashed shit. Fuck 'em, let them live in their dream world.
I have yet to see an original valid point made. It seems my protip was correct
Nice to see a fellow non-sheep.
How is it going anon-san?
If you can't even be specific with your information then do not post. I can tell you do not know what the hell you are talking about. Also , don't through numbers out there. Actually gather evidence first , nigger.
>flew from south carolina to paris
>paris to moscow
>moscow to kyoto
>kyoto to California
>California to Texas
>Texas to south Carolina
>never fell off the edge of the world once
I'm not asking myself to prove myself wrong. Read the OP nigger. Unless you need me to read it aloud?
Magellan already proved you wrong. I refuse to to believe that a man with such an awesome beard would lie. If you can show me a path that he could have possibly taken (with available technology) to perpetuate a round earth hoax, I will conceed.
More importantly, does this mean hills are 2 dimensional because I can only see one side of them, or one dimensional since actually projecting upwards is impossible since earth is perfectly flat? How does the water stay on earth?
I personally believe that the earth is round and the great serpent constricting us has been misinterpreted as gravity. I mean if it wasn't round, how could the sun always rise in the east? How would the gods get the chariot that carries it back to the east every morning?
Transoceanic ships would encounter an edge when crossing the ocean, yet all they find "flat surface" and yet they manage to make a ROUND trip to the same harbor they left without reaching any limits.
>protip: flat earth theorists are fedora-loving autists.
Everybody who believes the earth is flat. kills yourselves
Let's systematically destroy every "Flat Earth" point you can make
People on two sides of the earth don't see the same stars
Ships go over the horizon, they don't stay on a flat plane
All the other planets are round
Satellites show that the Earth is round
Gravity dictates that the further away you go from the centre of the disk, it would be harder to stay still, it would be like climbing a steep hill, you would be pulled to the centre
The disk wound be smashed into a giant ball by gravity anyway
The magma underneath the crust (Which we know exists because we've observed the heat from it) is never shown on any flat earth diagrams
Flat earthers dictate that gravity pulls us down because this disk is moving upwards, that would mean that anytime you try to jump, you would be instantly pulled down with such a force, planes would be smashed into the ground. Gravity doesn't work that way for earth, since it doesn't work that way for anything else, things pull smaller things in, not down
Geology dictates that the earth was formed by shit being pulled into a giant ball, which logically makes sense, there is no way that a disk like structure made of a solid would be created naturally, also, why would it be moving up for no reason
If the earth is flat, that would mean that Antarctica would be stretched around the circumference of the disk, meaning there is no south pole, which there clearly is because the earth has a magnetic field
Am I suddenly not allowed to be bored before work? Is it a crime to have fun watching you people act like you have some special information that the world is oblivious to? I love you conspiracy nuts. It reminds me that I'm not as insane as I think
Ok, I'll go for the b8 you medieval inquisition chuck:
>IF the earth WAS flat, sky during sunsets and sunrises having different colours then e.g. noon would not make sense
>how can horizons be explained with the flat earth model
>how do sattellites stay in orbit?->flat earth no geostationary orbit
>come on dude, show me the end of the world
What's the point of nasa convincing people the earth is flat when it's not? Why would people want you to think the earth is a sphere when it's not?
Never ever does this question get answered in these shitty bait threads
orb means sphere, sphere means ball.
.. a flat earther just claimed the earth is flat, because it's round.
ho ho fucking ho
.. this is why I love /b/
More of these fuck-wads! I stumbled across one of their stupid as clips on youtube, and the comments were cancer. These are some insane, crazy-ass motherfuckers.
this is not true, have you ever experienced the wonders of magnets?
also: perspective, it is about the relative size of things, the earth below you have a far greater gravitational pull than your ball, kinda obvious, is it not?
OP Herr. Just gotta say. Wow. Y'all niggas still at it? I am very impressed. I'd expect nothing from /b/. You guys will continue to argue about a lost cause despite knowing full well that you are taking the bait.
Sorry for the late reply. In class atm.
>mfw never expected this many people to take the bait
That's not entirely true. I first heard about flat Earth on /b/ and talked a lotta shit and had a good laugh about how dumb it was for a while. I was bored one day and decided to do some actual research, and now I can see that it's actually quite feasible and probably true.
never spoken to a single flat earther that was serious, that all turned out to be trolls, you seem to open strongly with the trolling, considering you deny the chance of your model being wrong, something no other scientific model have ever done, they actually go so far as to say "if you test X and does not get result Y then our model needs to be scrapped or redesigned because it clearly is wrong"
flat earth somehow does not have anything like this and thus resemble religion more than science
Have you physically gone to space to see Earth for yourself or do you just blindly believe what NASA (the govt) tells you to believe? Regular people who have gone as high as they can in the sky see a flat horizon, even from the tops of mountains. That shouldn't be possible.
> goes to space
> looks at earth
> holy motherfucking shit
> it's flat
> like a squashed tendie
> grabs nokia, the only thing tough enough to survive space
> go out into space, cord and suit included
> about to take a picture
> I feel a hand touch my shoulder
> it's Tom Cruise
> must be recording a new mission impossible
> "It's best kept a secret"
> he pushes me
> bastard cut my safety cord
> heading to Earth, erupts into fire
> hotter than mummy's hot pockets
> take a final picture on my nokia as i drift into the abyss
That should raise a red flag for you. It makes me think that there is something to this conspiracy and there are tons of "people" in here trying to shut it down as being stupid.
and you believe some even less believable bullshit someone else told you.
there is no difference between you and the person you criticize besides the fact you believe the crazier story with less supporting evidence
Proof that the earth is round: a sailor atop the mast of a ship catches sight of land before a sailor on deck. This because the earth is a sphere
Are you saying that's as far as we can see straight ahead because of the curve? If you look out at the ocean, you can see way more than 22 miles from left to right across the horizon, yet it looks completely flat.
Or that when you piss on something that a lot of people know the truth about, you actually get a lot of reactions?
If someone told me that water caused cancer so you should stop drinking it I would also react simply because it is the right thing to do
my dad and his dad have both been sailors, they would have been dead and stranded ages ago if they had navigated as they did, using the tools and knowledge they had, on a flat earth model, because it would not have worked.
not really though it does depend on perspective I guess.
to you it is subjective, to people who are able to understand the topic its not, its easy fact checking and basic testing
The rules of physics were established to justify why the things act the way they do. It's not like we understand everything, things change in science all the time. Who says we got it right the first time?
its not the right thing to do though, responding to crazy peoples theories often exacerbates the problem because in the mind of the crazy person, your response validates their theory - they see it as confirmation that they are right and that you are trying to suppress the truth. they wont listen to anything you have to say and will just assume that you are part of the conspiracy. literally the only way is to ignore them.
This. I trust the navigational knowledge established by thousands of generations of sailors, merchants, fishermen, and navies. Not some mouth-breather with a tinfoil hat and a laptop.
>Have you ever done this?
not him, but yes. I have circumnavigated the Earth in a boat. Never fell of any edge, the horizon stayed firm and put as you'd expect when navigated a sphere and I ended up where I started.
ok, it is evident you don't know shit about the topic.
let me try to explain it to you.
if we used our textbook physics, our current models, on a earth that was indeed flat, then they would fail, it would not be possible to use the math, because the math would be wrong.
it would fail us on a flat earth if we used the current formulas
that they are able to work are proof itself
If someone told me water causes cancer, I would research that myself and not just blow it off as nonsense. Thinking something is stupid because it sounds too crazy to comprehend doesn't mean it's your duty to tell everyone how dumb it is. Let the people who are actually interested have a conversation instead of adding literally nothing. You're probably the same faggot that posts banana pics in every thread.
ITT: tinfoil hat wearing shit bags with way to much time on their hands.
You're all calling us sheep, but there is plenty of scientific evidence supporting the round earth. How do you fucking rejects think the sun works?
What tests specifically? The tests Galileo used to prove the Earth was round also work on the flat Earth model. Plus how would he even know for sure without going into space himself? He just found some tests that worked with his theory and people started to believe it.
You can only "understand" things that people (not you) have already studied. You just have to trust they're telling you the truth.
then why the fuck do you blindly trust the flat earth theory?
Where is your extensive research?
btw, a cheap entry level telescope and basic math is all you need, to prove the earth is round.
The only thing that proves is that we base physics off a round Earth. If the Earth was flat, then we would have to restructure everything. Of course the same rules wouldn't apply.
we sailed a straight course, across the oceans, and never encountered "the end of the world" or "the edge of earth", and guess what... thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people have done just that.
but, you know what no one have done so far?
exactly, not one person has yet to encounter "the end of the world" or "the edge of earth".
person in the history of mankind's thousands of years of exploring the earth.
but you're a fucking idiot.
no, they do not work on a flat earth model.
star patterns do not turn upside down on the other side of the earth for example, because there is no other side of the earth.
the flat earth model is a series of different individual answer to one problem the model faces that is incompatible with the other models, no single flat earth model have ever come close to the completed good logical fit that the normal earth model have.
also: he found tests that would only work if his theory was correct, this is a little fact about science you morons always seem to forget, you test your theory to see if it works, if it does not work then the theory was the wrong one and you have to try again, until you find the right one, and the obviously it will fit.
you lack the very basic understanding on how this works, sorry.
I don't necessarily believe the Earth is flat, still doing my own research. I'm just saying that it's completely possible that it is. There are lots of things that don't make sense about a round Earth, so I'm personally torn on the subject. Only reason I defend it is because it's not that stupid of an idea and most replies are just shit talking and personal attacks.
What happens to ships when the sink, do they fall out of the other side of earth?
exactly, flat earthers somehow seem to ignore this fact, our current models that would only work as we need them to on a round earth model does indeed work, while the flat earth alternatives does not
But you don't really care about the truth anyway because you're a shill.
People have reached it, so you actually have no idea what you're talking about. "Antarctica" goes around the edge of the flat Earth model and is essentially the end of the Earth. In real life, Antarctica is heavily guarded by several countries' naval forces. What would be the point of patrolling a big block of ice?
I said this once, and I'll say it again. I'll add some color so that you can see better.
>IM THE MOTHER FUCKER DOING THE QUESTIONING. Y'ALL NIGGER SHEEP ARE S'PPOSE TO ANSWER. DO YU RVEN READ THE OP NIGGRR??
>mfw niggers don't read.
oh look.. some ice
how revolutionary, a breakthrough indeed. Fucking ice, man.
LOOK IT'S ICE GUYS
.. wonder what you'd say, if someone presented you with a picture of the earth, like...
all you did was post a picture of an ice-shelf in the south pole, brah. It proves shit all, and you damn well know it.
A glacier? Fuck off, people live in Antarctica for studies and shit. On those glaciers. Probably a shitskin only having this opinion because your monkey rapper Bob duesbt understand relative size.
>duuuuhhh these two cities are 16 miles apart
> why is there no curve duuuhhh
it is protected because countries are forced to in order to maintain their claim, the countries you do find protecting the place all have a claim to parts of it
the other reason is that they are trying to protect the environment so development is restricted to research purposes that does not do damage, it is not a area 51 type deal like you suggest/make it sound like, what parts you get to see depend on who you talk to and what they own/claim
>And what is there to gain by apperantly keeping it a secret that the earth isn't round?
That's a whole different discussion, and the main reason I see it as being completely possible.
whew lad, good eyes.
atleast you were able to dodge the bait.
hah, i almost got you there.
>People have reached it
>"Antarctica" goes around the edge of the flat Earth model and is essentially the end of the Earth
so, what's beyond it?
>Antarctica is heavily guarded by several countries' naval forces
oh, of cause. Catch 22 supreme edition. Except, no. It's not.
>What would be the point of patrolling a big block of ice?
idunno brah, what would be the fucking point of patrolling the end of the earth? You tell me.
I post a real picture, something that somebody actually took on a real camera. Your riposte is a CGI fake created by NASA so that they can continue to con people into funding their great illusion of space exploration. I think I know who is winning here.
here is the key issue, my side is one of fact, your is one of belief, making flat earth more a religion than science, fittingly enough flat earth model fits better with the biblical type world views, that are also strongly disproved and never proven
Nice CGI pic. How come every pic of Earth has different color schemes? I would imagine they're all taken with the same camera since there's only one organization that goes up there.
>I post a real picture, something that somebody actually took on a real camera.
no you don't, it's a shop. Prove it's real.
>I think I know who is winning here.
we both know, my enlightened kinsman. THE JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOZ
Toilot water would flow up, not down. 2016 and still with this shit.
>How come every pic of Earth has different color schemes?
wut is sunlight duuurrr
.. how come the pictures of THE GREAT WALL OF ICE, all have different hues and lighting?
YOU TELL ME
Ok, and what is indeed, under that sea floor?
Sheeple these days dont know shit.
If i wanted to build a building, i would need to use a plumb bob on the side of the building. Every few feet i have to level it off. If the earth was not flat, why are the top of buildings the same size as the bottom and not larger as you go up?
Look at light rays in the sky. If the sun were actually millions of miles away (like were told) wouldnt the rays be in straight lines?
Poeple already mentioned the ballon in the sky.
If we were a sphere traveling millions of miles through space, shouldnt the land go to the equater and away from the poles?
Yes, because the earth, even though it is round, is an enormous sphere, and each little part of this enormous sphere, when it is looked at, appears to be flat. As that is the case, this will dispel what they mentioned of confusion.
>it's not that stupid of an idea and most replies are just shit talking and personal attacks.
It's very difficult to have a discussion about flat earth when there's not much to talk about past fundamental science. A flat earther doesn't have much to say beyond, "everything you know is wrong" because there is no actual SCIENCE to prove that the earth is flat. We even have photographic and video evidence of a round earth. There really is nothing to talk about because the origin of flat earth is a denial of concrete scientific evidence. If you're going to throw science out the window, then why bother coming to the table at all?
>wouldn't the Rays be straight lines
They are, retard
>if we were traveling millions of mph land bla bla
You are trying to say if the earth is spinning the land would settle at the equator? The continents are not floating on water. Plus the earth IS bulged at the equator because of centrifugal forces
See, I don't really care either way. I mean, call me a faggot, but I don't feel like it affects my life if it's flat or round.
I won't discard either side though, because its retarded to just throw something out without looking into it.
I just want to know, for a normie, would it change anything if it was flat or not? Or does it only really matter on a larger scale for humanity, and governments, and not really the normal everyday man?
The earth wobbles on an axis you fucking retard,
When viewed some pieces of land appear bigger depending on its location in the wobble.
>GIVE ME EVIDENCE
>here's the evidence
>THE EVIDENCE IS FALSE DUUURR
what is the problem with the images?
Sometimes we update maps too because we get new and better information, and in turn the maps end up slightly different but more accurate, why would this not be the case with our planet?
honestly, the most confusing thing about flat earth stuff is the inconsistency about when and where you should apply a certain logic or fact
this is what the earth looks like without image enhancement
the Himawari-8 satellite took this (that's not from NASA in case you didn't notice)
Wouldn't that mean that all other planets (provided that they are flat as well) are facing us? Like glow in the dark stickers on the ceiling. Wouldn't that also mean that there is nothing behind us. The entire physical universe is directly in front of us. The universe would be conical
Might wanna do a little more research than what your atheist forums tell you. Most stories in the Bible are proven possible that they could have happened back then even down to the great flood and Moses parting the Red Sea.
Stating facts? The fuck is wrong with you?
this photo was taken by voyager 2, but govt. always kept it a secret. which government? dont ask me.....
it got licked, i mean leaked when the cute boy Edward Snowden revealed the location of the holy grail.
>implying gravity is real
There is literally no prove for that.
The flat earth is just accelerating upwards.
When people started saying the Earth was round, everyone immediately shut them up by saying we would all fall off. That's when they came up with the theory of gravity, and since that was a scientific theory and extremely difficult for people at that time to comprehend, everyone just said fuck it we'll believe you.
because there is something called meta analysis, just because one odd ball here and there claim its probable does not translate into this being wildly accepted as truth on par with other scientific theories like gravity
>Implying there isn't scientific evidence of the seasonal tide recession
>implying a senior citizen tapped a staff and somehow, beyond the realm of physical reality forced an entire sea to divide
If it was, in the centre of the earth. People would feel a stronger gravitational pull on the person. therefore everything would be pulled into the middle. and no one could live on the outer parts. bcz the gravite would be so weak, (i think). you would be able to jump around, and if my theory is correct, you would start to see side effects on the body bcz of low gravity.
This may be the dumbest post in the thread
It's amazing how /b/ will come laze around and praise Hitler, lay out death threats to gays and blacks, but the second you step on science they form a massive ball of autism to attack these anti-science retards.
Good job, but I hope you all realize that even OP doesn't believe this . He just browsed a few bullshit articles from the flat earth society and thought it would be a funny way to fuck around this morning. Your rage is wasted in this kid.
OK I had a good laugh guys. Was fun.
Gonna 404 this thread in 5 minutes(when food is done heating)
Stay tuned for part 2!!!
Not the /b/ro you're talking to, but you are using "strawman" incorrectly. That word implies an attempt to distract from the first argument by introducing a second and attacking it. You don't have an argument an all and so aren't worthy of a strawman and only get simple mockery. Bye now.
He''s right though, I've yet to see one scientist explain to a satisfactory degree how gravity works. It's just like "uhh, yeah when something is big enough it makes stuff stick to it...but uhh we dont really know why..but that is TOTALLY what happens and if you question it youre a complete lunatic"
>scientific theories like gravity
The word theory does not equal the word fact. It's just their best guess and theories change all the time. The theory of gravity is too widely accepted now to be challenged even though it's still just a theory.