Why don't manufacturers make cars like this anymore?
Some cars nowadays just look either shitty or just dull and forgettable. What happened to really unique concepts? Am I missing something here?
All cars past 1985 suck balls.
posting best car in the history of man
Pleb level non motorcycles faggots
Majestic and unforgettable car, 1959 Cadillac Eldorado
All things like Citroën Cactus, BMW i3 and Fiat Multiplay can eat a dick and die
its because the government outlawed those cars
only boring cars are allowed
boring cars go slower, therefore causign less accidents, therefore reducing insurance costs, therefore making wall street more money
wall street owns the government, ergo, boring cars
Auto design was dulled down into the generic boxes we see today. No imagination. No spirit.
This faggots just mad because he cant ride.
>boring cars go slower, therefore causign less accidents, therefore reducing insurance costs, therefore making wall street more money
Jesus fucking Christ, you're stupid. Just... wow.
Now here's a treasure: the Figaro. I think only 10K were manufactured and were all snapped up by collectors. From the late 80s I think.
Actually, slow cars have higher insurance premiums. Can't go merging onto the interstate at 30 mph. Although fucking morons stop on the fucking ramp so there isn't any point anyways.
You were probably conceived in the back of that majestic beast, you ungrateful faggot.
Fucking rednecks? What the fuck?
What you mentioned is "restomod." And this what companies like Singer, ICON and many others do. Not some rednecks.
Behold, one of the best cars of all time:
and yet this is factually incorrect, insurance premiums have continued to drop as fatality rates have come down; fatality rates have dropped steadily as the average top speed of cars has dropped; therefore proving that slow cars actually have lower premiums for insurance
all while guaranteeing wall street even more money
That's a pleasant-looking little car. Looks rather exquisite.
Someone past some dank 50s and 60s dashboards, those things were sick too. Now we just have fucking black plastic, it's like everything in the automobile industry just decided that cars couldn't be fun anymore.
>and yet its true,
Yeah, if you're a retarded ork in a fictional universe, where painting something red makes it go faster.
Seriously, how retarded do you have to be to think a "boring" design makes a car go slower? If anything, modern designs are far more aerodynamic, and because we have more efficient engines today than 50 years ago, they're also more powerful, and thus faster.
>MFW I'm white trash
>Live in trailer park
>Work on classics all the time
boring designs make cars go slower, just look at the facts
>2016: slowest average top speed of all car models available since 1965
>2016: cars are boring as hell, they all look like pills on wheels
>2016: lowest fatality rates in the history of the automobile
>boring = slower = safer
it's just facts guys
Also contriboot to the array of actually good looking cars, a '71 mach 1 mustang. Shame they don't look like this anymore
Not a great photo, but I sure like this car. This is a Tiger.
oh sorry, the $200,000,000 that wall street is pumping into elections this year is just because wall street is nice, they're not expecting anything in return, you're right
>mfw people are this naive
Shit. My gramps gave me a 1951 Ford Convertible. Thought I was in the gold.
I also thought there was a 25 yo car law or some shit that dictates whether or not a car is a classic.
I don't need google you nigger. I've had my nose in catalogs since I first started driving asshole.
BAM! Drop that into any old piece of shit you like and have an easy starting and reliable 500HP.
If you like autos, I would throw a 4l80e behind it.
And yes, rednecks do this shit. If a redneck wants a brand new ls7 all they gotta do is go through the gun collection and decide what they can live without.
Now do you want to talk about something stupidly easy like heat and headlights?
Get the fuck out you ignorant piece of shit.
Check this one out!!! Major attitude!!!
Gullwing MB. Not a great photo though.
Finally someone noticed, there must be a market for originally looking cars/full retro designs, it's just that the existing companies seem to be too lazy to tap into it.
Pic related, my dream car's shape (minus the specs).
Right after WWII in the US both cars and gas were cheap compared to today. Since one car was pretty similar to another changing the fashion of auto styling every year was incentive for customers to buy a new car even when the one they had was still perfectly good. Just so as not to look out of style.
Now that cars and gas are much more expensive people value economy, reliability and low maintenance over style. Today's cars are boring in terms of looks, but you don't have to spend hours under the hood every weekend to keep them running correctly. Pretty much any of them can make it over 60k miles with nothing more than oil changes. Few if any of the cars pictured ITT could do that.
Best I've ever had. 1977 F100 custom long bed. I paid 400 for it and built it to a point. Wish I had never gotten rid of it.
I've got a 180sl.
Let's talk about how fucking stupid it is to have two doors for a car with 3 passengers and a driver.
The only 70's era Mustang I'd ever consider owning... 60's, 80's, and almost anything Roush or Saleen I wouldn't mind owning, but I'm not about to break my back to own a Mustang...
Yee Yee!! The Burt Reynold's special... A vehicle specifically designed to identify trailer trash everywhere... I hate this entire body generation; just looks like shit to me... Worse when they started putting the urethane bumpers on in the late 70's...
Also, contribootin', my '70 Roadrunner project that I inherited from Dad... Lack of time and money (mostly money) is why it's still in the shape it's in, but at least it's not too terribly rusty...
That's what I am talking about. If you want people in the back put on a fucking door.
I disdain cars like that. To my very core.
I like old cars, but that shit was for faggots. You are faggots.
Shit... sorry for the retarded positioning.
Yeah, I was in a car accident in one of those cars sitting in th back. Shit was fucking scary not being able to jump right out and struggling to move the seat forward. I had to push out a dead friend out of the passenger seat to get the chair out of the way.
Also, nice dubs.
Why, because I don't like Trans-Ams and am not the biggest Trans-Am fan? Suck my nuts, faggot.
Is that a Cutlass? I tend to get Buick Regal and Cutlass' mixed up. I wish cars of today had that boxish design. The only cars of today I see that has that is the Camaro or the Challenger.
>My redneck wagon is better than you're redneck wagon because burt reynolds drove one of a different year and bodystyle in a movie once
You belong in a mustang with the faggots and the spics.
So fucking say 2 door you fuck. >>683606897
It came from the factory with a boat anchor 305. Yanked that for a mildly built 350.
That's what I love about mine. The egg crate boxy front.
Don't forget niggers.
Black man will drive any Mustang and think it's the fastest car in the state, even if it's just a base. Even a shitty 90's-early 2000's Stang.
Maybe it's just like that here around Memphis, but it's true.
Cadillac V16 Hartmann from 1937
this was the good shit
>Jelly that your little TA can't hang with the built 440 in my hooptie.
>Jelly that my rusted up interiorless piece of shit is still worth more than your prettied-up trailer trash transporter....
>All this jelly...
Best truck I've ever owned. Sadly I sold it when I got married to buy appliances for my new house. It served it's purpose. And now I am saving to get another one if I can find the same kinda deal. Barely running, looks like shit, $300-600. I'm handy with tools and paint and as long as the glass is good I can work with everything else.
I miss that shit too.
I also miss flip up headlights.
They stopped doing both of those because supposedly, boxy cars are aerodynamically harder to turn than a rounder car and flip ups don't protect as well as set headlights.
>no proper Isuzu love....
>pic related, 1 of 800
Wow you're a faggot.
Get lost. Pic related, your chariot.
Now you gotta follow strict rules for you your car to be sold. Safety, ecology, prices, ergonomics... Just look at the concepts they make and how they turn out to be once they are really finished
Even you got it wrong.
I've always liked cars that look like that.
I don't dabble too much into 80s or older American cars, I'm more of a Japanese 80s+ kind of guy, but i always appreciate the older cars.
I don't know man....
Also I hate pop-up headlights. They don't look good on any car, but there are plenty of cars with them I would like to have, for example....
$16,400 - $62,500
Stupid nigger, definitley not even remotely true
The color tells me its straight from the early 80's. Cars of today don't have that color. Is it a Cutlass or a Monte Carlo? What year? I'm putting it on early 80's.
I actually like your car. The color is not my pick but its a classic car. My dad had a Cutlass Siera or whatever its called and this type of Cutlass back in the 90's.
I want this car so badly.
And that's why it's where you belong. With the spics, the niggers and the faggots.
>IM STILL GONNA SHIT ON ALL MUSCLE CARS THAT ARENT MINE BECUASE IM A HUGE REDNECK THAT LIKES COCK
late 90s is when the last interesting cars died.
Ill never own a post 90's car and all this horrible tech intergration that ages like crap since 2003 makes me sick.
>Touchscreen in meme teslacamry circa 202x breaks a day out of warranty
>Cant use a/c or even control the car
>that will be $2000+ for a new Central Car Control unit + screen and tuning please
$43k-$78k, same website.
>mfw: your GM junk still ain't worth shit...
At night there is no traffic - best time to double or maybe more the speed limit
>Said one bad thing about one car
>"SHIT ON ALL MUSCLE CARS THAT AREN'T MINE"
If I had the money, I can think of at least 25 different MUSCLE CARS I would have right now. I simply said I didn't like those Mustangs. I'm not the guy you were previously arguing with, I don't even have a muscle car, I drive a fucking Bonneville.
:D I was right with the car and close with the year. Your Cutlass is awesome. You better hold on to it and treat it good. Dat crank to roll up dem windows, I miss those. I'm not even old, we were poorfags and our parents drove 70's and 80's used cars back in the 90's.
>eurocuck car design
You said the ta i posted was worth less than yours. Based on condition, you're still a lying faggot.
>MY REDNECK WAGON IS STILL BETTER THAN YOUR REDNECK WAGON EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE COMPARABLE IN MANY WAYS
I can't believe you are still here. You will never finish that car, because you have no idea what you are doing.
compared to modern elegant american pushrod v8
I actually have that car. The chain problem is way blown over... The heads wearing out the block is way fucking worse - also a general issue for all aluminium alloy V-engines especially from the 00 era
Yep, >>683608193 is just a butthurt trailer park resident...
Also, if I hit the big lotto, I'd have a garage that would rival Jay Leno's.... But, of course, since my opinion doesn't follow his, it's vastly inferior and I must be stupid or something....
>mfw: I've sent more classic muscle to the crusher than he'll ever own...
When I have more money than brains, I want to do the following to something like this:
>take virtual imaging of the entire vehicle, top to bottom
>hire a car designer to tweak it slightly so the shape is more along the lines of my personal style
>manufacture an entire body frame out of high-strength components and pieces
>strip off the chassis, motor, battery and electronics of a Tesla and slap that sucker on top
>drive around with a massively awesome non-fuelsucking vehicle
>just for yukks, have the same guy do a version with the biggest modern engine conceivable
>have them painted identical colors with license plates one character/digit off
Why? Just to fuck with the car nerds who would try oh so very, very hard to identify what that was.
Also to prove DeLorean wasn't wrong.
Even modern headlights only let you see so far. If you are being a faggot and driving 100+ you will have no time to react if there's a hazard in front of you.
Don't get me wrong, I like misbehaving too, but I'm not stupid about it.
He is just bullshitting. They made 20.000 of them. There is nowhere near 20.000 collectors of weird little Japanese cars in the world. Since they were made for the Japanese market they were RHD. They have a cult following in the UK (where they, like the Japanese, drive on the wrong side of the road). One UK website has 28 of them for sale at the moment: https://www.gumtree.com/cars/uk/nissan/figaro
>heads wearing out the block
i only just got a LS1 and i dont know anything about that is it a euro thing or?
>Not a modern engine
Modernized pushrods are unkillable, Sure the new vette is a pos but the older ls1-3 are goat
If there's lets say a deer running 20m infront of you when your going 100+ (mph im guessing) then wont matter if its light or dark outside. The risk is ALWAYS there.
Actually, I'll never finish the car because she is a perpetual project; shit like that never gets "finished", only completed stages... Don't let shows like Ass Funky Garage twist your head; a $200 buff-job does NOT an expert restoration make....
Owned one of these for ten years. This year, this colour. Fucking loved it, and it was an awesome pussy puller. I don't mean awesome pussy, I mean good for pulling pussy. I couldn't pull the skin of a rice pudding without that car so the pussy it did pull was meh to middling but there was plenty of it.
Yeah, not familiar with other engines, but the Germans from the era with aluminimum alloy engines suffer from it - its caused by bad maintenance but 10+ years old cars are pretty much fucked thanks to that.
Get on my level. Best car than everyother jellopie posted here.
>But, of course, since my opinion doesn't follow his, it's vastly inferior and I must be stupid or something....
You're the one that started shitting on the TA I posted just becuase burt reynolds drove it in a movie, then acted superior because you have a rusted to shit road runner.
I turned down my fathers 70 monte carlo ss becuase i had no garage, no tools, and no money to treat her the way she deserved. https://www.hagerty.com/apps/valuationtools/1970-Chevrolet-Monte_Carlo-SS_454
Worst decision I ever made. Anyways, take your mopar garbage and get lost, king of the trailer park.
>I've sent more classic muscle to the crusher than he'll ever own
Causation does not mean correlation. Correlation does not mean causation.
The number of black voters has increased over the years. The number of kfcs has increased over the years.
Therefore, kfc causes black voters
because of the head lights and the chrome
I'd beat you in a straight-line drag, and probably beat you in fuel economy too....
Ok I'm gonna jump in here. Modern FAMILY cars are faster than many classic muscle/sports cars. So the fact that slower = safer is just stupid, because the cars are FASTER.
I will put up something stupid like a 4 door grocery getter up against an 80's corvette, and I will win.
In celebration of the first positive response of my car in one of these threads.. have another pic! From last week.
>mfw bought a 19 year old LS1
>makes 300rwhp even with 120k miles+ on it
Serious Europe makes some horrible fucking engines.
Ironic because my Dunnydoor has a Opel Omega B modified chassis and its solid as a rock even though it gets rallied every day
I loved General Mayhem, back when she was powered by the motor home 440.....
But once Dodge bought "Roadkill", the show went downhill fast, with the hosts unable to stop fellating FIAT and their Hellcat V8......
Don't get me wrong, it's a respectable engine.... But the show really makes me NOT want a Hellcat-powered anything... :S
> 1982 Corvette Collector Edition
>2016 Toyota Camry
>178 to 268 hp
Yeah, I'll take the camry.
I have to agree. I want that hellcat out forever. They didn't even do it themselves. What was the point?
In Holland four Moroccans in a stolen 2-doors car tried to rob a bank. They got overhauled when they tried to get in the car.
>MFW I saw it on the news
The 1970 VW beetle that I just got a month ago. Original paint.
Going to stuff a WRX engine in that puppy?
VW Bugs are the ugliest little cars in the world, but even at 6'4" I can totally fit in one and drive it comfortably. They are awesome.
Admittedly I'd never, EVER use it as a road trip vehicle, but that's why they're called daily drivers, right?
If you had any knowledge or love for those cars that roadrunner would already be on the road in a decent shape. Your dad probably died from disappointment.
Honda S600, my dad drove one when we lived in Japan in the mid 70's, he wanted to bring it back to the UK with us so bad but the import/shipping/tax costs were insane.
I can still just about remember him driving me to the beach or the mountains for days out, back then we were the only white person most rural Japanese had seen outside of a TV show.
I work at a tow yard.
Some guy got a dui and his vw bug got impounded. He never picked it up. Becomes property of tow company. Co-worker takes a gander and buys it for $80 .gets a 2017 sticker and it's such a fucking sweet ride.
>lot less practical
This thing has zero window visibility, a trunk like a mailbox, and unless you're a 5'9" manlet, will be incredibly uncomfortable driving it.
Practical got fuckall to do with it, toggaf.
I gotta ask - do people who don't work there ever come and ask if you have anything on the lot like that for sale?
I have wanted a 1970s VW for years but every goddamn asshole and their brother are snapping up all the Type 2s and Westfalias out there, and killing old Bugs for parts to sell online. I keep thinking maybe I'll find something, but a tow yard might be a good option. Or a junkyard, for the frame.
It has 23,000 miles with everything original, so I am going to leave the engine and everything alone. I have new chrome bumpers and I am going to order new hubcaps due to bubbling chrome. The only wear on the car is all of the rubber grommets are dried out, and the rusty brake springs. This car will not be a daily driver. I have an F150 for that.
>posts a super sportscar.
Quit comparing potatoes with bananas.
That car isn't owned by the common folk as much much as the one from OPs pic.
Both cannot be mass produced.
You said "80's Corvette", I said "late 80's"... Also, let's not forget, we're comparing the "grocery getter", "most common", i.e. base-model version Camry... ;)
^ 240hp, 345ft.lbs., ~3200lb
Camry, base model:
^178hp, 170ft.lbs., ~3200lbs
I win. ;)
My point was precisely that you would be better off if you shut down your computer and went doing something else. Is it because we're 40 years apart that it's hard for us to understand each other ?
cars can still be beautiful, they just have to not kill everyone.
My brother in law owns a tow yard, and selling the cars is a regular part of the business. They are a good place to check for old cars, and be sure to ask where else to check. They will be able to send you places that are not on the map.
actually you are proving my point
kfc nourishes niggers (aka black voters)
niggers who get nourished fuck each other like monkeys, making more niggers
the half of those baby niggers who dont end up in jail become voting niggers (aka black voters)
ergo, the increase in kfc franchise locations is a direct, if not the main, cause of more niggers (aka black voters)
>All bikes suck balls, AND they kill get you killed.
I rode a motorbike for an hour a day, 6 days a week, for about 5 years. Not dead. If you don't ride like a moron you'll be fine.
Plans were unfolding for her, but another possible project just popped up yesterday...
And I inherited the car when I was twelve, she was held hostage by a psychotic bitch of a "grandmother" because sentimentality, and I still don't have her in my garage just yet...
How about you go fuck your hat, and stop being a crybaby little bitch because your precious redneck rollerskate sucks compared to big B-body beauty...
I'm the guy with the yellow Cutty. Before that I had this beauty. 88 Formula Fiero. That always brought out some hate in people too. In b4 fires.
but you're wrong, you are equating acceleration with top speed, and we both know that is not true
a modern family car can accelerate to 60 MPH from a dead stop faster than an F16, but that doesnt mean a modern family car can break Mach 2
acceleration =/= speed
>modern cars are slower, proveably safer, and arguably much more boring
I dated a girl who drove one of these.... For how laughable the Fiero in general really is, they've got a certain charm to them, and are most definitely a nifty car!! Far better than a Camry or some other banal bullshit....
And, tbh, sex with her was far better than sex with her Camry-driving friend...
What's laughable about it other than the factory engine choices? The 2.5 was a joke and the 2.8v6 was barely enough. Other than that.. I loved the styling and they're super comfortable. Even at 6'4" I still had plenty of room.
I have a '67 Gran Sport 400 and a 2016 Charger RT. Neither car would break the bank in their own era. I love the buick, I love old cars. Aside from shit ass compacts and economic rice burners, modern cars are faster 0-60 and top speed. The charger is astronomically faster than my GS, with a smaller motor and the weight is comparable. The modern Charger and challenger are the closest thing to modern muscle and the 3.6 liter V6 base models with 300+ HP will stomp most classic muscle cars with V8 power. I'm talking factory here.
The Fiero was GM's DMC-12; a "sports car for the common man"... And it was reflected in its lackluster performance... Thus why they made the Formula and GT variants... Also why people often do the '91 Sedan DeVille engine swap (I forget the specs, not really a Caddy guy)...
Thus, they were fairly laughable... As I said, though, they're quite nifty! For being a cramped little 2-seater, they did well with passenger comfort (as you stated, even for taller passengers), and all the nifty features like speakers in the headrests were what made the Fiero not -just- a laughable car... For how much I laughed at them, I did also like them to a degree...
New cars have to be reliable, filled with tech and work for many years without breaking down. Old cars are shit in every way compared to the standard production car today, except uniqueness and style.
New cars have to have to be safe, for both pedestrians and the users. Have to have good km/L below 20 km per litre today is low end. Tech, as in airbag, seat belts, ABS braking, traction control, AC, heat and so on.
The only thing old cars have are charm.
Honestly the 2.8 is a bigger joke than the 2.5 tech4. The tech4 was a great 4 cylinder for its time, durable and peppy. It's plenty powerful for the fiero. The 2.8 was not even worth the upgrade, it's heavy and sluggish with almost no difference in torque. Plus most of the 2M4's didn't have power steering which made them even more fun to drive. The fiero is an underrated sports car.
Formula and GT did shit for performance. All the Formula is is a stripped down coupe with power nothing options. The GT is just a fastback except for one year of the regular styling before it. The most common swap these days is a 3800 super charged. Great cars. Super easy to work on. Also very cheap.
Charm, value, and raw performance unhindered by computer-controlled and emissions bullshit... A car that sold for 2 grand off the showroom floor in 1970 is worth 25x that... Something you won't be able to say about the garbage they've produced since.... An '88 Pontiac 6000, in any kind of shape, in 30 more years, WON'T fetch that kind of price at auction... A '16 Camry will be the same thing, if any make it 50 years...
Worse, I fear with all the computerized bullshit, you won't even be able to run the bastards in 50 years, as the computers will be so out of date that you'll have to retrofit with a new electronic control system...
No Fiero had power steering. There were a handful of prototype electric steering cars, but none made it to the public. The iron duke is shit. Period. The best point of it is 40mpg with a 5 speed. The 2.8 does the job pretty well.. peppy enough for its cornering ability.
To answer your question in a shitposting kind of way
>muh cafe standards
>muh pedestrian safety
Car manufacturers are seriously designing cars these days so if you manage to actually hit a person it wont hurt them as much.
You're almost right.
Sure the value of the car is a lot higher, that's because it's a collector item.
Modern engines have variable valve timing along with electronic fuel injection and engine mapping; this means for the average Joe a cheaper engine that need less repair and maintanence.
If you want to, you can unleash the engines true potential by messing with the mapping.
Closed computer systems don't grow old. They work or they don't.
I had a '76 Duster for a while, had the poopy emissions-choked 318... I too looked at throwing a 440 in, but the engine bay is too small to do it without massive cutting.... However, the 360 found in any Chrysler pickup, SUV, or van from the 70's and 80's fits quite well, as I've been told.... Was going to do the 360 swap, but I ended up getting out of the Army, and couldn't take the Duster with me...
Honestly I'll never figure out why GM killed pontiac. Their aggressive styling and willingness to try new things was the gem of GM. They basically started muscle cars and even at the end were innovating. The supercharged GTP, the solstice and the WS6 birds were a cut Above the rest of the GM fleet.