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convince me to vote yes to brexit
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eu seems to just be germany's way of fucking over the rest of europe to it's own advantage
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>>683579752
I think it doesn't matter what you vote for, your country won't really quit the EU. If Brexit wins they will say yes we do it and then debate for years and finally find some compromise to stay in the EU.
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>>683580186
Elaborate
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Convince yourself you arrogant fuck. Think for yourself - research, discover and consider to come to your own conclusion and don't come on here like some noble Lord asking us to feed him grapes.

Fuck your shit OP
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>>683580734
so I've heard. who else is doing well in europe? genuine question
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>>683579752
do it.less government is clearly better than more
its a no brainer
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>>683580186
Yeah right. Sorry for being successful and some shithole like your country.
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>>683580186
nah germany is fucking getting it so hard in places
the jews are behind the migrant 'crisis'
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44vzMNG2fZc

vote OUT retards
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>>683580938
my conclusion is to stay and i want to know why people think we should leave faggot
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>>683581389
>>683581365

are you a bit dim son? or is this b8
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>>683579752

Nope. I'm all for staying in.
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>>683581444
why?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44vzMNG2fZc
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>>683581490

I see no downside to membership and many benefits. I believe many of our issues with Europe stem from our 'half in, half out' attitude.
Adopt the Euro and get on board with Schengen actually be part of Europe.
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>>683581719
fuck that. I'm british
and all ready a minority in my own city.
what are these made up benefits you speak of?
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>>683581719
see
>>683581526
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>>683581833
>and all ready a minority in my own city.

Which city in Britain has a majority non British population?
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>>683581719
Fuck off slav
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>>683581926
London for a start? the capital? you know the one with the muslim mayor?
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>>683582002
this
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>>683582024
drink bleach
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>>683581926
London, you know the capital of the country with a muslim mayor?
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>>683581833
So vote for yes. Then you won't just be surrounded by pakis - you will be poorer and surrounded by poorer pakis.
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>>683582014

The Londoner, son of a London bus driver?
British mate. Like the majority of Londoners.

Is that where you live?
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>>683582108
Dodgy dave pls ...
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>>683582108
be serious you little cunt of fuck off
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>>683582063

No.
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>>683582136
>British

lol
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>>683582136
boarderline. but ill take your point
dont muddy the waters you know exactly whats going on
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>>683582214

Absolutely, by every legal metric.
Is he your new mayor?
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Just to mix shit up.
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>>683582310
so how many generations will you give the refugees coming over now until they are british?
1 - 2? how long before you are british in your eyes?
you're a fucking joke pal
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>>683582419

It need not take any generations at all. Nationality is a very fluid thing, if you think about it it's totally ridiculous to begin with.
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>>683582534
race is a beautiful thing you sad little man.
if you honestly believe that then you need help.
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>>683582614
>race is a beautiful thing you sad little man.

LOL Wut?
What does that even mean?

Such silly twaddle!
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OP here
im voting no cuz i want more riots this country can burn to shit and it would be so much fun
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>>683582760
do you not understand what i just said?
the fact that there has always existed many races is a great and special thing
europe will work towards ending this and you are a prime example of how that works
my british heritage is something to embrace but i guess not for idiots like you.
where are you from ? if your a british you should be fucking ashamed of yourself..
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>>683579752
Your leader is threatening war if you do exit.

>That should be trigger to do go against and vote out.

If a war arises, it's because you hurt EuroReich's feelings

>STAY STRONG UK
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>>683582833
no meaning stay in?
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>>683582934
hes talking war because the in vote is so desperately weak the gov needs to attack the weak minded with propaganda such as this
do listen to dave the talking snake anyway
hes a top cunt
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44vzMNG2fZc
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Anyone who doesn't vote out should just kill themselves.
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>>683583140
here here
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>>683582920

Being British is nothing to do with me, it wasn't my decision. I'm no more proud or ashamed of the fact than I am of having brown eyes. Being "proud" of where you happened to be squeezed out of a uterus is... Just laughable.

I don't know what races being great and special has to do with this issue. But based on your notions of pride in some arbitrary event, I don't suppose that should surprise me.
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>>683583140

I shall be voting remain and definitely won't be killing myself.
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>>683583286
>I don't know what races being great and special has to do with this issue

then you shouldn't be allowed to vote
for fucks sake wake up.
it won't effect you now but it may well do 20 years down the line and as for your children, forget it.
mind you, they will probably be weak little liberal wankers anyway with a father like you
good luck son, you disgust me.
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>>683583286
>>683583347

Jesus Christ you're fucking faggots. No wonder women go off with niggers with you cucks around.
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>>683583347
oh the irony
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Any Glasgow lassies wanna chill n smoke a few doobz?
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>>683583286
kys
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>>683583557
>kys
Oh look it's 2005 again
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>>683579752
As a medic, I can safely tell you that nearly all, if not all, medical professionals will be voting to exit the EU. If we stay in the EU the NHS will only be able to last for 5-10 more years max unless some majorly radical changes occur that will involve people paying for medical treatment.

The reason for this is due to the way EU laws work, it is extremely easy for EU nationals to get free medical care, despite not being British. This is causing a massive strain on the NHS as not only does this mean there is not enough staff to treat everyone and thus queues are building up and up, but it is also causing a lot of people to bring diseases not native to Britain, causing an even larger financial problem as we do not have the equipment to treat such cases and thus have to buy said equipment and medicine.

Being out of the EU would allow the NHS to go back to helping British nationals and British nationals only. Not only would this save the NHS, pave way for the NHS being able to treat patients better, better educate the British public in medical care (e.g. it would be financially possible to educate everyone in the UK on basic first aid), and allow for better treatment of patients. Finally it would provide more money for medical research in which Britain is already one of the leading nations to provide us with possible future treatments and cures for various diseases.
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>>683583473
>then you shouldn't be allowed to vote

Because I don't agree with you? Aww bless.

It's the effect upon my children that I will be thinking of when I cast my vote to remain within our Union in June.

And, despite the noise, I firmly believe that we shall be retaining our place at the table in Brussels.

Vive la différence!
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>>683583686
jokes aside. you should do it mate.
people like you are the fucking worst
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I'm obviously voting to stay in because I'm not a retard chav or poor.
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>>683583791
That hurts dude.
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>>683579752
Britainistan
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>>683583945
>this
kek
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>>683583733
>As a medic, I can safely tell you that nearly all, if not all, medical professionals will be voting to exit the EU


As a current MCSR I can quite categorically state that you are not correct there.
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>>683583759
no because your must be blind to what is actually going on.
did you vote tory too?
i dont even know why i am bothering to argue with some one as closed minded as you so ill probably just stick to insults from here on in.
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>>683583793
>I'm obviously voting to stay in because I'm not a retard chav or poor.

But they want to straighten our bananas innit guv?
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>>683583793
please show your working
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>>683583733

Lol wat.

Medic here, voting to stay in along with all my colleagues. The only people who want a brexit are fucking hard right tories and racist nutjobs.

Theres no crisis of foreigners flooding the nhs, caring for foreigners who we could reasonably stop getting treatment if we werent in the eu amounts for about 60-80million a year, while we make about 50 million back from foreigners who come and pay from their treatment.

Brexit and youll immediately give the tory cunts all the power they need to finish privatising and turning the NHS into a PHS.
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>>683583793
>chavs vote
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>>683583733
This is something the government will never mention. Not even fucking Jeremy Hunt who is meant to be trying to save the NHS.

Leaving the EU is currently the most sure way of saving the NHS and making Britain once again the greatest country for medical care in the world.
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>>683584154
>>683584118
so who's lying here then?
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>>683584118
Jew detected
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>>683584031
LOL... No. No I didn't.
Nor have I or would I, ever. Well, not barring change in the direction of the party and a fundamental redefinition of the meaning of "conservative".

As for the insults.... Have at it. The "closed minded" bit gave me enough of a laugh to find you barely tolerable for a while.
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>>683584118
im raceist in a way that i would like to preserve my race.
i have nothing against others
you shouldn't use the word racist in 2016 - it has no meaning due to liberal retards, possibly like yourself.
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>>683583759
Good goy prep your bull
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If those edgy Brexiteers can give me one good reason to vote to leave thats not "hurr durr dem rapefugees" then maybe I'll listen
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>>683584332
ha you laugh at voting tory but will go along with david cameron euro dream?
whats up with that?
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>>683584477
thats the main reason though mate. its not a simple a racism its way more than that.
diversity does not work, not yet anyway
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>>683584477
Cap
Cfp
ttip

There's three reasons. Most people who want to stay in wouldn't even know about it.
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When they leave they still have to trade with EU to survive. But then the EU will choose the therms so they willl get fucked by eu. happening to norway right now
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>>683584703
so stay in? LOL
we must start somewhere
vote out
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>>683584574

So you'd rather sacrifice your nations economic and political clout so you can feel ethnically pure?

Also the "its not racism to be concerned about too many brown people" argument is dumb and essentially just narrow minded xenophobia
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>>683584703
if we leave others will surely follow
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>>683582614
>not merchant_vessel.jpg
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Switzerland is the best place to live in europe and isn't part of the eu and also has the strictest immigration laws. Are they racist?
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>>683584795
Well thats a real big gamble when your talking about a nations economics. wont convince me with that one
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>>683582014
If a dog is born in a stable it is not a horse
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>>683584795

That I very much doubt.
However, I'm also pretty certain it's a moot point.
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>>683584651

ttip would happen without the EU, especially with the Tories

At least with the EU, France, Sweden and the other borderline socialist states wont stand for the shit aspects of ttip so the uk wont have to
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>>683584757
start by fixing problems not ignoring them and keeping them out. Your just ignoring all the downsides to leaving which are far worse then staying
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>>683584773
thats not what i said, at all.
but its at a tipping point and WILL get worse.

also who said anything about the economic safety of Britain? thats a joke mate, stop watching the t.v for your facts eh..
i also didn't say your second point either...
you are mixing words very well which is why you can't be trusted.
race is there to be preserved and maintained along with all the culture that goes with it.
i dont hate brown people but i do love my own people. its only natural and currently we are under attack from liberals tories and pro euro loonies like you.
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>>683584919
doesnt make any sense, but still kek
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>>683579752
Vote for Brexit or go suck your muslims dicks
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>>683584924
>At least with the EU, France, Sweden and the other borderline socialist states wont stand for the shit
>Sweden
>Being this cucked
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>>683584985
i dont believe them to be true due to the people who are telling me them. this is only fair
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>>683584773
>openbordersofisrael
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>>683585112
Good job at the intelligent counterpoint and coherent response
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>>683585211
Why has achmed let you out of your cuck shed?
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>>683585140
ofcourse you can but that wont help you. Its really like fucking religious people against scientist.
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with jews you lose
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>>683585211

The plus side is that's it's unlike said anon is actually old enough to vote.
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>>683585361
kek
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>>683585333
dont make me laugh. you think id trust the bbc and the tory spin machine?
I'm better than that
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>>683584703
If you go back 50 or so years ago, yes, this statement would be totally true. However we are now in the 21st century. The century of technology and easy travel. We don't really need to do any business with the EU anymore, we had to a long time ago as it was difficult communicating with the rest of the world as there were large seas preventing us. Now we can just go on the internet or get a cheap flight.

Leaving the EU will allow us to freely trade with the real superpowers of the world. Every continent in the world except Europe has grown their economy in the past decade. So why trade with a non-growing economy? People keep it under the hood but Britain still has it's own independent alliances known as the commonwealth. The EU is currently inhibiting our trade to these countries due to their laws but if we leave we can freely trade with them and get much better deals because we are closer allies to them than what we are to the European countries.
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>>683585361
>>683585395

How old are you guys?
In my younger days I was very pro eu but then I grew up.
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>>683585429
dont listen to them then. plenty of neutral information everywhere
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>>683585504
good man. fuck the EU
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>>683585504
That's funny cos i was the opposite
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>>683585552
i have already made up my mind on the key point that less government is better than more
I'm out, all day
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>>683585504
24. you?
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>>683585619
fine by me man. really
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>>683579752
Just do it. Please.
It will make Merkel this cunt even less powerfull.

the EU is shit! Worst idea ever!
Britannia rule the waves again! Let us be a Reich again!

With love, German Anon

>next time we fight, it's side by side
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>>683585587
If you want to be ruled by unelected politicians at the european council that's up to you but I won't stand for it.
Can you even name those people that rule us and make all the laws without google?
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>>683585651
Not surprised I was the same as you at 24.
I'm 36.
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>>683585724
>>next time we fight, it's side by side
i like this
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honestly oligarchy would be the best tho
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>>683585651
rekt
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>>683582024
Yea you know....you people are fucking idiots.
80% are not even real refugees...and mostly young men.

How can you cheer for these people? Are you retarded? You literally fuck the real refugees with that...but i guess thats the leftist logic

Just like Hitler was worse than Stalin
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>>683579752
I've heard UK labo(u)r has more worker rights now under the EU machine than otherwise. Enjoy that perhaps. Take heed of the gutting of the US workforce: rising workers' wages will simply be offset by more offshoring and automation.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gm9q8uabTs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dranqFntNgo

long live the king
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>>683585804
Its just sad to see people acting stupid, just whining about stuff while not really knowing anyhting about the subject. Like a baby who doestn know how fat he will get if he keeps eating. He will still cry for more food anyway
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>>683585488

>We don't really need to do any business with the EU anymore

That's stupid, of course we do, around a half of our trade is done with the EU, thats not going to change so adding tariffs after brexit is going to suck

>Leaving the EU will allow us to freely trade with the real superpowers of the world

Nah fam, China, USA, Japan etc trade with us through the EU, and thanks to the half billion consumers and fancy industries that the EU represents, we get a much better deal no than we could ever get as a tiny/insignificant island with only 60 million consumers and essentially no industry

>The EU is currently inhibiting our trade to these countries due to their laws but if we leave we can freely trade with them and get much better deals because we are closer allies to them than what we are to the European countries

see previous point

>Every continent in the world except Europe has grown their economy in the past decade

Actually, the EU as a combined economy (which it is nowadays) is growing faster than than the pre-2008 crisis
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You suck and we want you out.
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>>683581926
london and birmingham mainly i'd say, probably most citys though.

thank fully i live in the country in a small town, no colour here just polish and they aint so bad.
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>>683586006
its still shit and we dont want it
you dont benefit from any of that crap. big business does
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>>683585882
This. Hurting the people you're supposedly protecting all in the name of blind "justice" is certainly a thing in the left.
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>>683581833

Bullshit you english faggot. Fucking edl crybaby.
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europe and america bombs em and then a year later they are living in your town on benefits
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>>683586146
look it up mate, you be surprised
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>>683581833
>>683581926
>>683582014
>>683582136
>>683582214
>>683582310
>>683582419
>>683582534
>>683582614
>>683582760
>>683582920
>>683583286
>>683583473
>>683583759
>>683584031
>>683584332

This is so sad....I sure hope this guy is trolling or some paki.
How comes the brits are so fucked?

You didnt have to endure over 70years of propaganda to hate you and your country.
Greetings from Germany
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>>683586221
whats your point friend?
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>>683585739

Whats "unelected" about them?

-You vote for your MEP (but you probably didnt/voted ukip who basically do nothing all day)

-The UK has a seat on the council, which is occupied by the PM

-The UK has a seat on the commission, which is usually a former British bureaucrat, appointed by the UK parliament

-The president of the EU Commission is the leader of the biggest group in the EU parliament (but hurr durr i dindnt vote fur him) guess what that the same way the UK PM is selected and i dont hear you moaning about his democratic illegitimacy
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>>683586212
>>683586212
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_London

I repeat, you're a fucking EDL crybaby.
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>>683585085
how does it not make any sense?

How can you be so delusional to think a black person for example can be swedish?
He never will be. He does not have anything in common with scandinavia!

He might be able to adapt to "swedish culture" but that doesn't make him swedish. (Besides that they don't even adapt, they act like apes and force their shit own sweden - rape is 86% commited by people from the middle east in sweden and the statistic has risen 300% since the imigrant policy)
He will never be swedish, even if he has swedish citizenship.

Jesus christ, here in china or in japan people would laugh at you if you would come up and say "I'm chinese" but you are actually white.
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>>683586461
dont be so fucking stupid
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>>683586006
Britain had the largest empire in history and was the most powerful country in the world by completely ignoring europe.
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>>683579752
The Frenchies and the Kauts will be fucking livid.
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>>683586497
lets face it we are both using websites for our information here. i believe my source and you believe yours
please stop calling me racist, you dont know me

where are you from, are you english? like proper english or what?
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>>683586221

>propaganda

Eh no mate, your nazi bullshit and commie east germany are responsible for that.

Nice attempt at dodging the blame again though like all edgy neonazi untermenschen though.
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>>683586322
You beeing a total ignorant person my "friend".

Next thing you gonna tell us is that a black person for example is swedish,british or german just because he got citizenship.
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>>683586508
because a fucking mouse is a different fucking species as a fish, this fucking arab is still the same species as a swedish guy. I ofcourse get the point but the comparison is utter nonsense
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>>683586660
ha I'm on your side mate. i was arguing for a leave vote. its the other guy who needs a good slap
thats why i didn't get your point, you replied to both sides of the argument
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>Jesus christ, here in china or in japan people would laugh at you if you would come up and say "I'm chinese" but you are actually white.

GG
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>>683586221
OF jEWISH/EUROPEAN PROPAGANDA
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>>683586654
>Eh no mate, your nazi bullshit and commie east germany are responsible for that.
Wtf are you talking about?
denazification - sounds nice at first but really isn't since it's as bad as what we had with hitler.
Look it up.

>Nice attempt at dodging the blame again though like all edgy neonazi untermenschen though.
neo nazi...youre cute. I'd be the first to get my head bashed in for beeing bi you twat

How can you be this butthurt anyway? I didn't say the UK made us hate ourself.
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>>683586645

The difference is, you're believing bullshit from stormfront/pol/britain first when a cursory glance at fucking wikipedia (and the sources) would prove that political propaganda 100% incorrect.

I'm English, from London actually which is exactly why I know you're talking drivel.
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>>683586977
im in london too
was born here
and just because your website says this does not mean my website is wrong.

when you say english do you mean you are an english paki for example or actually english?
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>>683586497
White British are a minority you fucking mong.
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>>683586732
Ah sorry lad...sometimes its a bit confusing, can't tell who is who - thought you are that ignorant fool.

My bad, sorry mate

>thats why i didn't get your point, you replied to both sides of the argument
I just wanted to show your text aswell, since you are obviously trying to tell some sense into him
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>>683586977
until you have counted them all yourself
how do you know you are telling the truth?
u can't.
i believe my source because when i leave my house in the morning and get on the london underground to go to work - i can see it. its believe able. ok?
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>>683586508
>>683586813
>Jesus christ, here in china or in japan people would laugh at you if you would come up and say "I'm chinese" but you are actually white.

ITS OVER!
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>>683587080

It's not just a website you actual spacker, LOOK AT THE SOURCES FFS!

God almighty the young in this country are fucking pathetic, no education worth speaking of. SMH
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>>683587170
i was shocked at home many (you's) there were!
but yeah, i was trying to kick liberal some ass.
:)
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>>683587096

Except when they aren't. Demographic data is easily searchable from official, non-EDL sources you fucking thick cunt.
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>>683587225
get the fuck out of here ahmed. you aint welcome
this is clearly a leave the eu thread now
sorry about that

look at the sources! look at the sources!!!
looool
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>>683587225
>wikipedia
>not just a website
>"God almighty the young in this country are fucking pathetic, no education worth speaking of. SMH"

This is either bait or my fucking god you can see why the west and far east outstripped the sand people in terms of technological development.
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>>683587191

Jesus christ you muppet, census data is taken from birth records and immigration records. It is accurate to a degree beyond your 'I see black faces on the tube'.

Your subjective anecdote =/= demographic fact

Honestly what kind of mongoloid are you? Top kek.
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>>683587594
go away mate. you reek
there are many issues to focus on here
dont get stuck on that particular one for too long
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>>683586461
Nobody in this country voted for the council or the commission and I don't want to be ruled to these people.
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>>683586558
Good enough for me
But get your slurs right Kraut
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>>683587410

I'm english and white you fucking asbo-case, tell you what though i'd take 10 ahmeds over any gluesniffing cabbage like your family shrub seemingly produces.
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>>683586654

That is exactly the case friendo.
Now I realise that you do not wish it to be so, but if wishes were horses everyone would ride.

And you anon, are walking.
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>>683587575

Do the east not read sources for demographic data either? You polfags are beyond parody. Fucking lol
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>>683587756
assumptions the game huh?
shame on you
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>>683587707

Did you vote for the Cameron directly, in fact, did you directly vote for anyone in the cabinet?

Unless you happen to live in one of their constituencies then you have had as much democratic involvement with the UK government as you have had with the EU commission and council.
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>>683587989

But they're johnny foreigners, what what?
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>>683587684

>can't prove that whites are a minority
>still feels it's true
>proved my point about being uneducated
>go away muh feels!

Useless. Anything Britain once had to be proud of is gone, look at the piss-weak guttersnipes that come out of the English gene-puddle these days keeekkkk
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>>683586977
Fuck off jew
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>>683587348
talking about london you fucking jew
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>>683588183

Fuck off /pol/
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The EU is an undemocratically elected elite with no interest in your best interests.
They are so poorly managed they have 2 HQs (Brussels and Strasbourg) which they split their time evenly over at your cost.

Anything the EU does takes an extreme amount of time because all 28 member nations must agree, which means trade agreements take considerably longer than other countries.

They are expansionist which means they will be seeking to add new countriees to it's membership which will only further slow down it's ability to make agreements.

It's seemingly adding only poorer countries which means the burden which fall to wealthier societies to foot. When Turkey joins it will mean 79 millions people will be able to travel to any EU country to seek work. the average hourly pay in Turkey is £2.50. Benefits in the the UK far exceed that, what do you think will happen? House prices will go up, crime will increase, shortage of jobs, shortage of school places, longer queues at hospitals/doctors, tax increases to pay for people who have never contributed will be levied on everyone.

The EU isn't the good organisation they want you to believe it is. It's trade laws mean African farmers get hit with crap deals and we the tax payer pay more for food.

They subsidise Tobacco production. You literally contribute to ultra-wealthy tobacco companies.

Immigration is good.... when it is managed. Bringing highly skilled talent to your country is a net benefit eg doctors, programmers, financiers but bringing disenfranchised, angry young men who have a completely different set of values to the host nation is disastrous.

Search for happiness indexes and GDP's of countries, pay attention to those in Europe but not in the EU (Norway, Switzerland and Iceland). Look at the trends.
They are happier and getting richer.
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>>683588145
>Anything Britain once had to be proud of is gone

Like, for instance?
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>>683587756
>jew
>white
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>>683588145
shame. on. you
fucking captain cuck over here
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>>683581389
The people campaigning for leave are Trump tier shit heads. Just look at the blonde manchild who just lost his job or the Ukip Nigel Faggat. If you want to leave, do it. But don't think that anyone on the mainland will care (except for Netherlands according to some idiot on /Pol)
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>>683588290
dont listen to him. hes just mad that hes such a weak specimen.
a true british male wouldn't cry like this
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>>683588237

So am I , you fucking demonstrably thick cunt. Reading comprehension's not your strong suit, not surprisingly.

Top fucking kek, can't wait till your eventual damage control 'lolz i was trolling lolz' post.

Fucking mug.
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>>683588375
cry more faggot
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>>683587989
I have my issues with fptp but British elections are nothing but a shit show since were ruled by foreigners.
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>>683588524
this
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>>683588462
So you're saying white British are not a minority in london? If you believe that you're fucking retarded.
Gas yourself jew
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>>683588481
Enjoy your independence. Those arguments will surely keep Ahmed from raping your mom.
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>>683588524

Which is, in no small part, why I am committed to strive towards a fully federal Europe rather than the current pretence of it.

Stronger Together!
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>>683588269
jew detected
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>>683588367

>cuckcuckcuck

Cry of the /pol/fag. It amazes me how much time you lot spend thinking about foreign cock while claiming everyone else are the cuckolds.

Feral mongrel white betas projecting as always.
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>>683588660

Never say never, but we will not be seeing "independence" this June.
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>>683584477
Britain paid the EU £55M a DAY in membership fees in 2015.

Now imagine if we could spend it on ourselves instead.
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>>683588748
first time i have ever used the word.
i dont like it or its meaning but lets face it - if there is such a things - ITS YOU PAL LOL
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>>683588270
A good rational post. But the shills will ignore this.
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>>683588293

>damage control
>jewjewcuckcuck

Fucking summerfags
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>>683579752
Please?
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>>683588796
We are spending it on ourselves!
We're members.
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>>683588652

Yeah you muppet, the demographic data proves beyond a doubt that whites are the majority despite what you frightened daily fail autists believe.
>>
the EU is a terrorist organisation
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>>683588706
I'm not anti-european i'm anti eu, we can have strong ties without a eu superstate.
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>>683588712

>fag with no argument detected
>Hurrrr jew durrr

GB2 /pol/ you bentshot.
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>>683588889
>muh summerfag meme!
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>>683589147
you do sound pretty jewish tho
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>>683589034
lol ok stop shilling now you fucking pleb. How much do you get paid for this?
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>>683588838

>such a things
>i r rite gud

Spacker.
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>>683589063

No we can't. that has been made quite clear by our European partners. We're in or we're out and I shall be voting "in". I strongly suspect that we will carry the day too.
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>>683589219
hurting
you really do try hard dont you
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>>683589266
Oh we can't? Well that will make me want to stay in lol
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>>683581719
This is a joke right?
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>>683589469
are you being sarcastic or are you pathetic?
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>>683579752

Read this:
http://people.uncw.edu/kozloffm/glubb.pdf

We need to bring this monster down, so a new, non-socialist union can arise from its ashes.


Greetings,
Belgium
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>>683579752
EU is so corrupt they have not had their books signed off as fraud free for 14 years.
>>
Watch this eloquent case for leaving:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMT7bOsRRdc
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>>683589266
weak limp wristed faggot detected
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>>683589599
>or are you pathetic?

Says the cuck
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>>683589794
that makes no sense. congratulations
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>>683589841
Retard alert you should be banned from voting
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>>683589919
why? explain yourself
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>>683589973
back to your cuck shed sven
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>>683590187
ok. GG fucking retard
>>
to summarise: vote out
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>>683589536

No. I am a supporter of a fully federal Europe and will campaign energetically to make it happen.
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>>683589646
>weak limp wristed faggot detected

One with a vote darling.

Stronger Together!
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>>683590543

to summarise: vote remain
>>
so to summarise then: vote out
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>>683590875

so to summarise then: vote remain
>>
in conclusion - vote to leave the bastard EU and we will all go from there, together.
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>>683591011
that has not seemed to be the general consensus of this thread though. why you always lying for
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>>683580186
>it's own advantage
I am not going to be taking advice on geo-politics from a cunt who doesn't even know how to use an apostrophe correctly.
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>>683591017
>in conclusion - vote to remain with our partners in the EU and we will all continue from there, together.
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>>683591203
fuck off mate.
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>>683591273

No.
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EU, Schengen and EØS would have been so much better if it wasn't for all the eurofags. Please kill yourselves.
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If the EU was so good, then the Pro EU lobby would be using a very positive campaign to convince you to stay. They would have lists and lists of amazing reasons to stay and how it benefits you.

They don't.

Instead it's fear tactics "They MIGHT stop trading with us" or "We POSSIBLY may be open to more terrorist attacks".

Bullshit.

Firstly they won't stop trading with us because we buy more from the EU than they do from us.

Secondly they won't have out net £11bn contribution and will need to find that money from somewhere and cutting trade ties and putting your people in unemployment is suicide for a nation.

Nobody is going to stop trading spy secrets with us to stop terror attacks because that's not what allies do.
Also, we have one of the most effective intelligence agencies on the planet, they need us and as much as them. Again, this would be profoundly stupid on their part.

Do you want to be part of an organisation that threatens you if you leave!?! That's not joint cooperation, that's the mafia!

Their whole case is built on "you'll be worse off if you leave" but the leave campaighn has produced figures showing what we'll save financially if we leave and where that can be spent.

Junior doctors went on strike because they are overworked and underpaid. Well that's not a surprise considering the NATIONAL Health Service is now the EU Health Service and we are paying for their care.
>>
Nobody knows exactly what will happen if we leave (that's the most honest statement you'kll hear).

However, you can make an educated decision based on facts based evidence.

If we leave, unknown things will happen, we must look at Norway, Switzerland and Iceland as our basis for measurement and they are doing well.

The things you do know though are that if we stay, we will continue down a path towards integration of the Euro currency and EU rulership.
So far the defacto leader of the EU (Merkel) has invited unchecked immigration into Europe with disastrous results, she did this without any mandate from other EU nations. She now expects you to take in your "fair share" of her mistakes.


We are beyond the EU now. We operate on a global scale. Why set limits on our abilities? Why tie ourselves to countries that have work fewer hours and retire earlier but expect us to subsidise their very existence?

It's not greedy to want to keep what you have rightly earned through hardwork.

It is greedy to be part of an organisation that you get to vote the richer countries must fund your lifestyles.
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We are but we pay more out than we receive. By £11bn a year.
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>>683591762

Hope you enjoy taking over Marcin's job at the box factory you shortsighted 20yr old poofter.

As for 'they won't stop trading' uh yeah they will when the deals with other EU countries, the banking agreements included make it far cheaper to do so.

Such a wall of text for such a limited understanding of HOW. SHIT. WORKS.

Vote remain.
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>>683591762

Nhs 'now EUHS'

Fuck off Farage, that is easily disproved drivel.
>>
I marvel at people who simultaneously maintain that leaving the EU will be good for trade because we will be able to strike agreements with other non EU nations AND the EU countries will continue to trade with us!

Schroedinger's Trading Agreement.
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>>683592332
>>683592427

How does it feel to be such fucking faggots?
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>>683592580

Very European.
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Explain to me how you think a highly regulated banking industry in the EU is going to be more expensive than the UKs?

You might like to consideri our corporation taxes are lowest in Europe at 20% and going down to 18% in a few short years.

Tried to incorporate how Banks like deregulation (see the 80's banking boom in the UK and New York) in your counter-argument.

No company is going to change banks to a more expensive option because they have a duty to shareholders, NOT the host nation.

If you think countries like Germany are suddenly going to try impose taxes on the UK banking trade, they will find they will be offset by taxes on BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, Audi, Nivea, Simens, Allianz etc etc etc

When those companies have to explain to shareholders why their dividends are taking a hit, they won't stand for it.

Equally so, having to lay people off because you introduced a punitive tax because another country doesn't want to be part of your club, is the surest way of losing your political power.
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>>683592332
get fucked
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>>683592427
the first few sentences made an excellent point.
you faggots got nothing yet there a billion reasons to leave
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>>683579752

>current year
>voting
>actually believing in the system
>thinking any of it matters

you're better of voting on Britains got talent m8y
>>
I marvel at people who believe a trade bloc that has made no progress in the last 10 years, economically speaking, is better than creating independent trade deals with powerhouses like India and China.

It's like having a shop on a side street and when someone offers you the chance to move it to the new westfield shopping centre, you say "no thanks, I think things will get better here".
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>>683589217

i grew up in east ham, i was one of only 7 white british kids in my school
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>>683594339
>i grew up in east ham, i was one of only 7 white british kids in my school

And? Is there a punchline?
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>>683594505
you can't be serious
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>>683594578

What's your point then?
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>>683594711
no come on, whats yours?
if you can't see how being one of only 7 white kids at your school in LONDON is in anyway not something of note.
like i said, you can't be serious
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>>683592580

I'll defer to your experience in faggotry faggot, you tell me how it feels.
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>>683594711
not >>683594339
that guy by the way
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>>683579752
Brits are a major pain in the ass for the union.

Britons are literially the gayest anarchists ever. Like how the fuck do you people even consider yourself anarchists - "texasians of eu". Considering everything that britain is, would some faggot please explain this to me?
Now, there's a bunch of reasons why you shouldn't leave the union, mostly related to briton being irrelevant. But I suppose after all this crying you have the right to choose - just like the scots had their right to choose. However; If you choose not to leave the union then you will shut the fuck up and row the boat just like everybody else.
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>>683594839

I don't see why the colour of the kids is in any way relevant to anything, so again, what was your point?

Is it some sort of joke or something?
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>>683594964
>If you choose not to leave the union then you will shut the fuck up and row the boat just like everybody else

Looking forward to it.
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>>683594998
oh your one of those guys. ok never mind.
we have already covered this
>>
The questions you should ask yourselves isn't "are we better off out?", it's "are we better off in?".

Why?

Is that worth £55m a day?

Should people who weren't voted for be creating laws and running our lives?

They want an EU army. Should people we didn't vote for have an army and access to nuclear weapons?
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>>683579752
just do it and get it over with. the rest of europe is tired of waiting for you cunts.
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>>683595113

That's right, I'm one of those guys.
British. With British values.

Where does your family hail from friendo and when do you think you will integrate with British society?

It's really quite worthwhile.
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>>683594290

I marvel at morons who think the logistics between india/china are sustainable compared to a nearer neighbour we already trade with.

Every time one of you faggots brings 'economics' into an argument here, I know i'm about to read a wall of utter bullshit based on the hokiest misunderstandings of a field that is based on pure nonsense and ideological horseshit.
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>>683595283
i was born in london. i am in london now. i have never left apart from a few nice holidays here and there.
what is it that you think you are getting at here pal?

you aint british cunt, you're european
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>>683595434

'Aint'

Yank spotted.
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>>683595197
there are better questions to answer before all that trivia
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>>683595197
lol just because YOU don't vote, doesn't mean everybody else doesn't
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>>683595434
>you aint british cunt, you're european

I'm European by virtue of being British. all Britons are European. It's to do with geography.
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>>683595538

Probably just a wannabe one.
There's a few about.
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>>683595538
wow.
you're pathetic. want to get back on point or you just here to piss about?
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>>683595697
not for all of us. its more than geography and you know it
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>>683595855

No. No it's not. And you know it, and it scares you half to death.
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>>683582014
It's 45% white British, and 60% white all added up. There are no single group larger than 45%, so you are not a minority in London.

The second largest group are Asians, having 18%

The third are blacks, with 13%

London is also an important global city, and will of course have a larger amount of foreigners than many other cities.
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>>683595765
1.how is aint an american word?
2. what suggests that i would want to be a 'yank' when i am clearly in this thread violently defending the true british people?

are you fucking retarded or just 14?
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>>683595973
er, no it dosent and that dosent really make sense to me. if you would care to explain why it should scare me?
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>>683579752
The whole country has been turned into a shithole by the eu migrants. OUT now and shut the borders.

Only a dirty nigger would want to stay in.
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>>683595987
>violently defending the true british people

Like London's new Lord Mayor?

I salute you sir! Well done!
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>>683595981
i heard you say 45% there. you did didn't you
what will it be in 10 years do you think
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>>683580556
This
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>>683596113
if thats the same guy. you need to get off 4chan.
please stay on topic and try to make sense
you are just shit posting now
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>>683584919
Nationality and species are different things dumbass. With that logic only American indians are Americans (and even they migrated to the continent)
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>>683596035

It's patent that your absolutely terrified of who you are, what you are and where you live.

Try and accept yourself and come to peace.
>>
"Logistics" of doing business on a global scale in the age of digital communications from a predominantly service industry.

Try again, idiot.

"Every time one of you faggots brings 'economics' into an argument here". Yes, it must be inconvenient when people have facts and history on their side in debates.

You clearly are a red flag waving socialist that has the simultaneous capacity for ignoring the rich history of capitalism and the poor and deadly history of socialism.

Parasites.
>>
>>683595987
>the true british people

from an outside perspective you just lost. lol
never let your ideology take over an argument.
>>
I do. I will be voting out.
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>>683596220
hahah. get a load of this cunt!
what ever pal, keep reading fortunes on the internet for people you dont know rather than engaging in the discussion.
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>>683596325
explain?
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>>683596217
With that logic the whole world is Africans.
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>>683596217
You two are debating two different things.

There's nationality and ethnicity.
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>>683596191

No. I feel fine here, fellow European.
Tell me more stories of your defence of "true British people".
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>>683587096
White British are the single largest group in London you briefcase wanker. The second largest group are Indians with around 7%. White British are 45%
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>>683596379
nationalist goggles fail for complex current-day issues
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>>683595981
>white British is the largest minority

Well gee whizz that's ok then!
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>>683596417
im not falling for this but how ever many people i have just been talking to have avoid every point and question i have made. what do you really expect to get out of me?
i hate every single on of you anyway so theres no love lost.. i wish you could just stay on topic for a moment at least but alas, its has broken down to cryptic name calling.
fuck you europeans, I'm out of here.
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>>683596335

Okay friendo. I hope you can lose your fears and become a working part of British society rather than hiding on it's sidelines and condemning the values of your homeland.

Luckily we are a tolerant part of a tolerant Union!
You're rights, human and legal are secured by treaty friendo!
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>>683596560
way to keep it brief but yeah ok sure i see your point. but i feel it is one of the issues
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>>683596621

Don't say good bye, say au revoir my fellow Euro citizen!
>>
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-32793642
Come up with a decision yourself
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>>683596627
imply your way through life mate. the fuck do i care
your just wasting my time as I whole heartedly disagree with your vague nonsense points you try to make humorous.
whatever 'friendo' good luck to you
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>>683596704
this

Auf Wiedersehen!
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>>683596719
by using the BBC?
are you that retarded?????
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>>683596601
Don't see a problem with that. It's a global city, an economic hub and the capitol. There will always be a fair amount of different ethnic groups.

And it's not EU that brought in most of the British immigrants. Most of them are from the former British empire.
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>>683596704
thats french though isn't it?

>>683596832
this is german?

fools. you are proving my point here guys
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>>683586520
Except that isn't true, is it?
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>>683596921
i noticed you failed to respond to this?>>683596115
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>>683596877
Are you saying the arguments are wrong?
>>
The EU was a european experiment with an immense future scope. All the issues we're seeing at the moment are baby teeth compared to what issues we will be managing with a more mature union. Of course to get to the issues that matter, people need to stay on board for a bit longer, instead of crying for an "exit" once the first bump shows in the road.
The EU is a good excuse for mindless change, when you realise your national politics are fucked hard.

The EU is probably too optimistic an idea to ever work in Europe.
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>>683597157
I'm saying you can't trust the BBC
and yeah, it will certainly be biased towards staying
although it may be subtle
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>>683582534
>Nationality is a very fluid thing
And so is gender, amirite?
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>>683597048
It's the respond police. Shit.

I have no idea. I'm not a Britfag.

I was responding to a claim that white people were a minority in London.

A Brexit won't change the amount of non white immigrants in a large number anyway. Most of your immigrants are from former colonies and such.
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>>683596961
what was your point again?
the EU should speak english only?
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>>683597200
if the world needs anything its change mate. thats a fact
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>>683597321
no. there's two genders.
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>>683597325
if your not a brit fag then you need to pipe the fuck down in my opinion
especially when telling my what my own city looks like by using wikipedia from your home elsewhere.
i mean, really bro?

i can see why you didn't respond now.
another case solved by the response police
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>>683597342
go away dude, you aint up to this
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>>683597396
agreed. that's why i qualified it.
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>>683596961

Esto es Espanol!
Questo e Spagnolo!

Some of our partner languages, now which point was being proved for you exactly?
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>>683597321
i was gonna say the same. underrated.
fucking liberals
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>>683597280
I think it's good to know both sides of the debate anyways.

Could actually just listen to debates then
https://youtube.com/watch?v=uYTJGBBjkGo
>>
Too much EDL on this thread. Makes me glad I don't live there anymore. I can still vote though so fuck you EDL shills, I'm voting to stay in becasue I know the borders of the UK are bigger than the island nation on which we were all born. But then, I have a world view and not an inward Great Yarmouth inspired view

It makes me laugh
>>
>>683597569
>>683597597
you too
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>>683597601
that makes two retards, then.

don't believe nations are fluid? go read a single history book.
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>>683597545

But you're talking xenophobic shit you dribbling fucktard. Which is contrary to all good British cultural principles.
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>>683588270
Underrated post
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>>683597611
just vote out. its a lot easier and you won't waste any of your sweet sweet time.
i know exactly why i am voting out do not need any further education.
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The BBC receives funding funding from the EU. It cannot be impartial.

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2014/02/the-millions-in-eu-funding-the-bbc-tried-to-hide/
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>>683597696
i wasn't denying that but you guys are open to absolutely anything was my point
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>>683597741
You clearly do as you've forgotten to use punctuation.
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>>683597741

Nor I. Which is why I will vote to remain a part of our Union.
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