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What does /b/ believe to be true?

Post your beliefs, ideology conspiracy theory, knowledge you acquired and wish to share with us. It can be anything you wish to share.

The goal of this thread is to pass on knowledge that would benefit anyone who reads it.

Keep arguing to a minimum and be open minded
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>keep arguing to a minimum
wot

God is real, just not the way Judao-Christianity believes God to be.
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Ignorance is bliss until it gets boring, then it's time to start adventuring.
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>>683559950
Describe your belief about your god in detail please?
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Desire for change is the only thing that holds us each back from being happy. Other's desires which disagree with our own creates all conflicts. Acceptance is key, but not necessary to just live through life as you wish.
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If she got a big booty, she shall be known as big booty.
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The only rights are natural rights, that is the right of your will and ability to make other's conform to it. Even when living in a social contract.
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>>683559763
Raised catholic turned into a devout atheist. In my 30s now and after discovering psychedelics I'm pretty sure there is something more to life and consciousness -- just wish there was some evidence.
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Praise Osiris!
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There is always something more powerful.
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>>683560827
I like the way weev phrased it: Rights are not given or taken, only respected or infringed upon, and the way to make other people respect your rights is through force.
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>>683561024
OP here.

There is more than what meets our eyes and minds. I recommend you start questioning everything and piece everything together. You'll notice patterns in your life and things will begin to make sense.
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I believe I hate you all
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>>683559763
We as beings here are bound to this planet, I am not sure how we came to be exactly or if that even exists as far as the real nature of time outside of our own feeble perception of it.... there are many dead planets whos spirits are trapped within who did not ascend from it and they cry out to us, longing to posses our freedom.. we are but one of countless living worlds scattered beyond what we could count. Life and death are not definite, there is a way around the whole cycle that we believe to be absolute.. simply because we perceive something does not mean we fully understand it.. I also believe that most people are stupid as fuck and unable to see past their own nose.. but what do I know
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>>683562368
Hate is a important feeling in our development of understanding. Funny thing is that a lot of people confuse love and hate a lot.
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>>683562559
The beginning of time is a complete mystery to us. Why are we trapped on earth? Simple, earth is both a prison and school, mostly a school in which we can learn to experience so we can expand and grow. Nothing is absolute in existence, cycles break eventually. Yes many people remain ignorant because they lack understanding, thank our education system and programming for that.
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Recently I've gone through a lot of revelations with my beliefs. I was raised Roman Catholic, but something was always missing. More recently I've turned to exploring if there was more to life. I feel like human consciousness is all linked to one another and that it truly continues after we die. I believe that maybe we go to another plane of existence and that everything on this world is linked to one another and that we should respect life for what it is. Universalism, I guess. Feel free to comment on my beliefs.
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>>683563641
The giant neon distraction that festers before us..
we are trained to live in it and to think only inside it by all those who already do and want us to be slaves until our bodes wither and fail.
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the only truth is this sentence.
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>>683563688
You're a faggot, as is everyone else in this cancerous thread.
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islam
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>>683563688
Life is sacred and one should respect it.

Here is a question I want /b/ attempt to answer.
What if every human was humble and nice to each other? Would you think we'd advance further or will it stun/slow our path to enlightenment?
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I believe that millennials are the cancer killing /b/

t. oldfag
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>>683563908 Do you find that to be sad or freeing?
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>that op is a fag
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>>683564516
Thanks for the reply. As for your question: I feel as if humans could never live in peace. I feel as if we are broken beings that are meant to live this life as a trial for more to come. As for true enlightment, I feel like that is a more personal achievement. Rising above everything and finding your own way.
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>>683564687
i believe /b/ was killed by porn a long time ago

-olderfag
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>>683564856
its both, and neither.
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>>683563877
We are slaves because we allow ourselves to be. A single human can become stronger than an entire nation.
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http://dudeism.com/
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>>683559763
I believe in nature and karma.
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>>683565146
you are seeing yourself projected onto humanities collective social consciousness

probably need absolute force to have absolute peace, simultaneously

this is why the arts and humanities are so important

social orderment, technocracy, epistemology, philosophy, who is allowed to live, who is allowed to die
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relative valuement of scale
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We live in a computer simulation, life is probably meaningless
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>>683561900
>>683563688
>>683565900
LIFE AND DEATH IS JUST A ROLL OF THE DICE

CHECK EM
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>>683565583
Be careful on how you perceive karma, that belief is known to cause fear.
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you dont win friends with salad
you dont catch bees with vineger
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>>683559763
Whatever is real is real.
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>>683559763

The universe is a digital simulation. All the evidence is here; Non locality of subatomic particles, time literally slowing down when the processing is tougher (like at planets that are really big, or things going really fast). Not to mention the guy that found error correction code in string theory.
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>>683559763
ALLAH HUAKBAR
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>>683566110
yes
http://www.simulation-argument.com/simulation.html
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>>683566110
We could be in a matrix. Our actual bodies being in stasis.
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>>683565591
I agree that arts and humanities are really important and I feel like public schooling (in the States at least) is killing our creative process. I looked up the terms you threw out to me and they seem interesting to say the least. I agree that we need more practicality with our government. Not just people that we elect. On another note, I'm a skeptic. I feel like any answer people have for me requires proof to back it up and not just faith alone. However, we will never have this proof. It's like I'm Tantalus and Im within the grasp of knowledge that I'll never get.
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>>683566110
Thanks Anon, I've heard about the possibility of simulation before but not with those (rather convincing) points.

>>683566110
Thanks for link, anon.
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>>683566302
I guess the questions are,
what is the purpose for the simulation?
And does that change our morality?
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>>683566524
start with axioms like self ownership as property rights

violence crossing the threshhold of your flesh organ defined as such and placed as the number 1 priority to be removed from society

the rapists
the murderers
the assaulters

there are no exceptions society is not a war it doesn't matter if you think you are and want to use the word government or king or whatever to label yourself violence is violence its the line in the sand else semantically its a meaningless & pointless nonarguement

insanity will believe what it wants it doesnt matter the pen is red just change the language be unhinged be ill be unanchored and pretend you are the opposite just know that for 800,000 years this type of person has been formatted and systematically bred out

slight hitch in last 100 years because of "government" prohibition (illegal laws are oxymoronic you cant say a victimless crime of nature is anything more then you being an embarressment and setting the precident for your own removal) - Ignorantia juris non excusat

most are retarded monkies and my mortality makes this quite confronting; frustrating
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>>683566524
You'll get what your looking for. We all do at one point.
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>>683566504
Why would that be any more likely than just our entire consciousness being digital? I don't see any evidence for that being the case.

>>683566641
No problem. There is a good documentary about it. When you start to really think about it, it all just seems more and more plausible.
https://youtu.be/VqULEE7eY8M
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from such a man is legally/lawfully entitled to the ownerment of his labor, his product of effort/work.

retard defined as delayers & inhibitors to progress

progress as peaceful voluntary cooperative trans-scarcity societies of want (anarchism - there is no substitute words for this)
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>>683566721 (not saying this as a truth) The simulation is a process to see if different sentient alien beings which live in different dimensions (the ones that created this) in order to see how a group lives with diversity on a planet. Both in terms of things very similar to them but also in terms of things very different than themselves (humans). We're probably not doing so hot so far if that is true.
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>>683566891
>>683566891
go
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>>683559763
The Anunnaki of planet Nibiru are on their way to reclaim humanity.

Glory to the primordial overlords, glory to the Anunnaki!
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I think (and I hope I didn't) that consciousness is just what an extremely powerful computer gets. That being said it follows that the human brain is nothing but a really powerful computer. It is indeed astonishing, and the whole complexity of life itself is so wonderful that is breathtaking. But when I'll die the light will just fade, and I will always be as I almost always been, except for a small period of time. And this is both painful and scary, and I wish I was wrong, but is indeed logical.
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All I see in this thread is a bunch of ants trying to understand anthropology.
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>>683566929
I completely get what you are trying convey. What is your belief on the human soul?
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>>683566721
From our perspective there is no purpose to the simulation, although whatever started the simulation probably did so to study "post-human" ancestors.
As for morality, go read nietzsche or something.
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>>683567131
I agree it is along those lines. I however, see it more as a mathematical and psychological experiment that they (what I have been calling "the level up") has been doing. I think the level up wants to learn about how life would function in a dimension lower than theirs. They could be in a 11 dimension universe, and they are interested in the idea of 3 dimensions.

The only think that is pushing me to believe we are in a real universe is irrational numbers. They don't make sense.
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The idea of an eternal return has always been interesting to me. Anyone else think it's possible?
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>>683567403
OP here.

Let me make it clear that this race is long gone and won't be coming back. They've been gone longer than what one might think.
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>>683566934
I hope so. I hope to obtain it through love and aging. Materialism doesn't really matter but just makes life more comfortable without having a solid foundation of answering our real questions.
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>>683565197
I will not stand by and let pedophiles ruin this sacred holy canvas this masterpiece of expression this world of art so beautiful and bold
this board is not your toilet paper to shit on

-not even a fag but a power bottom that's more alpha than you
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>>683559763
Ive pondered it a lot in my high school years, did a lot of soul searching, im in college now and I believe Islam to be true. It's the way of justice. These days, the difference between right and wrong has been blended together, what society has deemed acceptable, God calls mischievous.
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1. Odds are you won't die by 21 or 30 or even 40 so don't waste time fucking around
2. Someone has probably done or or thought about do it but that shouldn't keep you from doing it again.
3. Don't waste your life with someone you think you can change or you think can change you
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>>683566721
There is no "our morality." It's an opinion, there's no absolute basis for it like there is for stuff like electric fields or gravity. There are some things most people agree on, but that doesn't make it any more right. Something being morally right/wrong has the same strength as saying something like chocolate ice cream is good.
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>>683559763
Im agnostic but when a see those motherfuckers like rockefeller or another powerful people performing cult to some shit and making human sacrificies and think thta those mother fuckers maybe know something thta we ignore disturbe me so fuking much
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>>683567654
Personally, I hope that's it's true because death from the perspective of an atheist terrifies me. It only scared me because there are so many atheists anymore. However, eternal life/return sounds like a wonderful experience.
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>>683567602
>go read Nietzsche or something
I prefer Kierkegaard and Sartre

I think there is a purpose to the simulation. You don't do that much work to create a universe for no reason
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>>683567498 Well if god exists then it's basically out of the realm of time, in an outside perspective which could manipulate anything from any infinitesimally small point
and could change or put it's consciousness into a different simulation.
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>>683567838
Times change. What you find acceptable today might be a death penalty tomorrow.
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>>683568127
Death to poopers! Anyone found pooping will be hung!
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>>683567571
maximisation of individuals want as human potential, self actualisation etc

my personal subjetivity is live in peace with a monogomous pairing of a hot sassy sexy lady for 200 years ala bicentential man smoke as much cannabis and exercise as much as my body will allow including my mind body/brain in terms of intelligensia/intellectia

maybe eventually write something down, breed, pass something on but just happen-so-stance,

live as adam and eve and no more, no less

she basically has to be 100% subservient to my will and nothing must stand in the way of me being truthful and honest with myself in what that is, that discent must be formatted.

live a masculine max = human max
with a her at my side.

am capable from resource perspective, so i view, just need to find the right wench to coddle my dick in her mouth and buy the groceries and accept she is my 2nd, ying yang etc, accept her place, as helping me i mine, opposite in some respects, mutually fostering and beneficial (worded language free of hypocricy only for my own benefit really) for us (me again)

and her being happy in her place, to help me in mine

mostly deal with mortality, again

people are approaching 200 year life span capabilities and theres a fuck ton of books and psychadelic drugs and sex i want to do and have

COME ERE daints

anything excess will be driven into subversion of my environment to anything that could be a threat to my at non expense of anothers life as they an expense to mine

get like 20 free years to smoke bongs and play all the cool computer games like mortal kombats, doom, fallout etc

i owe society, the world, nothing, no rsponsibility, no obligation, just seperation as axiomatic, secondary as a partner with another, a main squeeze, engage in the backlog of culture i wish to, etc etc


these actions connotate my soul

its not for you
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>>683567956
I beg to differ. Just because something is always changing doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It's more like an art than a science, the new art can look like shit until you get used to it, the old art sticks around for about 50 years, and if you were recreating ancient art you would say what the fuck.
We choose our morality as a group, like art, that's what makes it interesting. Because it's the art of every action we all choose to do.
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The only thing that's true is the nothingness we come from and to whence we shall return when our feeble little spark is extinguished.

Tl;Dr, nihilism is cool or something
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>>683568127

Don't do the crime.
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I believe in veganism. I believe you shouldn't kill when you have the opportunity to not. Raising animals for food pollutes more than transportation does. This is our home. It's our planet, it'll be there for our kids, and we're completely fucking everything up.
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>>683568522
you're one of those retarded autistic cunts that thinks eating dieing plant matter is not actually dieing but alive and that eating dead meat is any different from this dieing plant matter that falls into the same catagory as non breathing, living, the second u seperate it from the soil
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>>683568378
Doesn't that mean there is also another truth, which is that things change. You have only ever experienced change. Does that lead to an uncertainty about the nothing once you have returned?
If the universe was infinite in time, at one point your atoms would reform life, and you may be conscious again.
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>>683568651
Learn how to spell dying and then get on my ass. Also learn priorities. An animal dying is not the same as a plant being eaten and you're a retard for even suggesting it.
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>>683568784
yes it is and language evolves stop being autistic double dosage
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>>683568784
fucking autist
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Believe in Islam. Reason is because of the things in this video: https://youtube.com/watch?v=V7eZ-r9o10Y&t=7m11s
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>>683568651
What? Did you even read their post?
They actually raised good points. Meat eating is worse for the planet, it takes more land that crops can be grown on.
But fuck not eating meat
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I believe liquor is the only way
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>>683569023
how fucking ignorant are you cunt to say that eating meat is what ur most worried about in terms of pretending like you fucking care what is or not "worse" for the planet jesus fucking christ

blacklisted
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>>683567403
This is the only kind of magical sky god I will ever accept.
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>>683568850
>>683568913
Why, because I have a basic grip on morality unlike you passive fuckers? You wouldn't even care enough to respond to me if you weren't feeling guilty over the things you're up to eating corpses.
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i fucking cant work out anymore if they are being trolls to rib me or if they actually beleive this shit or if its such in their heads, holy christ
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>>683568011
God does not exist. Consciousness isn't a thing, is just a consequence of high power computation (in my scheme of toughts)
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The Controllers. Incorporeal other dimensional beings feeding off our corporeal bodies.
They have always been.
We have not.
They did not make us.
But they can control us.

Basically we are meat batteries for beings I can't comprehend. They tend to favor negative experiences and emotions throughout someones life time.
Master manipulators and decievers, they feed in whatever ways suits the occasion. Some may enjoy feeding on us as we experience sadness, guilt or anger. Others may prefer death as the final meal.
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>>683569103
>calling me ignorant

If you have got any more points that are not ad hominems I would love to hear them
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God is real. But it is not a man in the sky who watches you. God is a combination of the following things:
The universe, as in the nature of the universe, the laws of physics, natural selection etc
The context of the universe at the time of your birth. basically all of history, all events leading up to now.
You. The voice in your head that you hear when thinking is God talking to you, YOU talking to YOURSELF.
God is different for everybody. But at its core God wants you to be happy, to be your best self.
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>>683569380
>ignorance as an ad hominem
>imposter complex
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You are not a body with a soul.
You are a soul that temporarily inhabits a body.
All life is connected, all is one and one is all.
All beings in the universe are connected through a joined consciousness that you are unaware of until death this is how your soul inhabits a new meat suit when your current one expires.
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>>683569387
Do you have any evidence? Or implications of evidence?
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>>683559763
i was raised a catholic. im 27 now but when i was 18 i had a good friend talk to me about buddhism. everything he said felt like i already knew these things my entire life and he was just reminding me because i somehow forgot. he told me that a persons own desires is the root cause of all misery and suffering. including my unmet expectations. and then he told me about how loving others is a happiness that cant be lost
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>>683569365
The dream I had with this revelation shook me quite a bit. As I don't really like to talk about or think about life and death, creation/why we are here... all that jazz.
But something struck me as so horrible, i cant begin to feel like the life I lead is real.
The illusion of free will, choices, etc, are all paths that lead to the same end. That end was going to happen one way or another. But... these things.. the eat away at us. And nothing fills them more than you thinking youve figured everything out. And thats what scares me most.
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I'm essentially a nihilist that believes Earth should be treated with the same respect as the native mericans gave it. Not taking more than what you need, carefulling on the carbon foot print etc.
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>>683565197
/b/ was killed by me.

-moot
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>>683569387
Space and God . Hmm
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Man is so much more powerful then he thinks, oh boy there is a whole world our there that each and everyone of us is missing. Everyday i find out something new about the world, this reality, and it just goes to show how humongous this all is. Jumping from there, man the person (Christ Consciousness) not the unconscious/sub conscious can affect his reality from observation. Each and everyone of us puts into this grand machine, and each and every single one of us sows all the seeds they have planted. Look around, be aware, contemplate, and question everything, from here on out the enemy will be stronger then you, from here on out the enemy will be smarter then you.

>ask me anything
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>>683569716
I think that can be brought down to a value of sustainability and care for future generations, rather than have much to do with religion.
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>>683569533
It is simply what i like to believe. I am the God of my own life. Not me physically but God lives inside my brain, I am a part of god and god is a part of me. Ultimately i control my life because i control my perception of it. Ive always felt like a spirit "driving" my body and watching my life from behind my eyes, rather than simply being who i am in a physical sense.
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Nothing is real. Everything is subjective including your perception of reality.
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>>683569943
Yeah for sure. I'm not religious. I mean, there could be a creator (I'm 90% sure there isn't though) out there but I strongly disbelieve said creator cares about what individuals want and I don't believe any of the religions created by man would reflect accurately on any deity that could possibly exist.

Just don't be a dick to people, animals and the environment and be honest with yourself and you'll have a good life. That's my philosophy.
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>>683570147
Ill agree to this
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>>683559763
Farts are food ghosts
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>>683569789 how long have you been a time traveler? I stopped reading after maybe 15 pages, but some things even in that were helpful.
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GMOs are Fake and y'all needa realise mcdonalds has real beef trust me I work der
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>>683559763
I believe in a creator type figure inside which we all exist. I believe it is probably not aware of any individual actions instead it feels the universe as a whole. I don't believe in the Christian or Judaic God however I do believe there is something to it, just they limited it.
I believe a soul is malleable. It's like Bruce Lee said, be like water. A soul is like water it fills to become the shape of the cup and in that sense at our core we all have the same soul and our experiences are what give it shape.
I believe when we die we suddenly gain awareness of a completely different vessel. Be it human, alien, tree, insect. It makes no difference. It's all the same.
I believe in balance. Too much one way and the universe will drift into eternal cold, too much another and we face a big crunch. We need to help the universe as a whole find balance through finding the balance in ourselves.
I believe non existence is scary. This entire universe could be snuffed out with a blink and nothing would ever exist again. It's amazing we exist at all and I believe science is what will help us discover more.
I believe we are not fully evolved or evolved enough to even begin to comprehend the truth l, so it'd probably best to ignore everything I previously said and just live your life and have fun without any fear. You may fail a million times and die but eventually one of us will succeed and push existence to a better place.
So basically I believe in having fun and treating everyone as a brother or sister and realize wars while horrible are really nothing bad. I believe we all have dreams and too many of us settle for comfort rather than chasing what deep down we really want, who we really want to be, what we daydream about.
I believe drugs are fun occasionally but ultimately useless and par in comparison to actual experience.
I believe stoners are lazy and have given up on their dream so to cope they gain false feelings instead of real ones.
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Does the name Cyprian mean anything to anyone in this thread? What about dag?
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>>683569789
OP here.

There is no true "ally" or "enemy".

Ask you anything? Alright

What is a master? If there is such a thing.
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everythings like a spinning corkscrew

its always going in circles but never really moving anywhere. there are patterns that nobody lives long enough to see. we will never understand god because god is beyond human comprehension. god will always be more than what we are thinking.
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>>683570401 Ya he smoked my last joint by himself at a party once...
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>>683570401 Cyprian I mean in >>683570543
also dag is an asshole
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>>683570424
I dont know much but i do know a little, and i think thats good enough. Ive seen some shit man, as far as your question goes-A master can be anything that teaches you, so lessons would be the greatest masters of all-sons of life expierences, lessons are the best teachers as they are harsh and unwilling

>>683570539
I believe god can be "seen" by us. By which i mean we can get a good outline of him/her
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>>683570543
I'm sure you're being sarcastic but knowing him I wouldn't doubt it
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>>683559763
I'm agnostic. Political correctness is devolving us. Racism is stupid as shit, hating someone over their skin tone instead of hating them over what they do. Today's youth is brain dead and who they look up to are whores who dress up worse than porn stars at award shows. I don't fucking care if you are gay, bi, trans, or straight; black, white, green, yellow; Catholic, Jew, etc. I judge on weight, your actions, and some of peeps looks.
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would you fellas say hardship is inevitable?
people go through tough times regardless of their economic situations?
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>>683567403
good god I would instantly drop my knees in worship of that goddess
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>>683570374
OP here.

No feeling is false. Everything we experience is what life is about, even if you are a lazy stoner.
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>>683570872
Way to harsh of humanity man, we are all still learning

>>683570903
For the most part, we all have troubles in our life but the choices we make help us out, and if you follow the buddhist/hindu religions hardships are not only inescapable but inevitable
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>>683570966
All experience has value but feeling is not experience at best it's the feeling of an experience.

There'd a major difference between actually having fun and having fun through a drug. Drugs take the experience out and get you straight to the feeling. True enlightenment can never be reached through drugs, only through the experience of meditation.
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I believe this: Let teachers and priests and philosophers brood over questions of reality and illusion. I know this: if life is illusion, then I am no less an illusion, and being thus, the illusion is real to me. I live, I burn with life, I love, I slay, and am content."
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>>683562559
Couldn't have said it better myself
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>>683571222
This is correct.

Enlightenment CAN come from doing drugs but only through moderation and taking in the right drugs. There are many paths to enlightenment.
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Simply put, I used to be Hardcore Atheist. Through my studies of microbiology and chemistry I have concluded that there MUST be a creator. Not the way the bible dipicts him, no stupid angels or humanoids etc., but something, a being of high power. If you study biology you will learn that it can't be, it mustn't be by "chance" that we work like a clockwork machine. Everything perfectly calibrated, and fluidly working to create stuff. I don't want to go into too much detail cause this is 4chan after all, but there is no way life (on earth) exists by chance.
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This thread is some deep shit that I can dig yo
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I believe it's a good trait to be able to see the intents of people who've hurt you and to understand that they aren't evil, but forgiving everybody isn't good for your psyche. Martyrdom is not a good survival tactic.

If the afterlife, as some believe, is defined by the chemical for dreams being released just before brain-death, then wherever you most deeply believe you're going is where you will go.

We perceive and interpret infinitely more stimulae then we could consciously, logically piece together: Apparent premonitions, gut feelings, correct hunches, lucky guesses, and other '6th sense' level predictions are most likely formed by the subconscious putting all these pieces together.

If we have a divine creator that judges morality, this judgement is likely based on how truly and honestly a person wanted to help others and model their idea of a good person.

Even if you don't like or aren't proud of your background, the culture you grew up in may end up being the one you're most comfortable in as an adult.
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>>683571706
No at best it can let you look through the window. There is no quick fix to enlightenment. No short cuts in a bottle.
To walk through the door is only accomplished through meditation, prayer and serious contemplation with nothing less than a clear mind and all your faculties.
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>>683571760
OP here.

Nothing exists by chance. I suggest you take a look at sacred geometry.(Careful what you take in)
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We are living in a world akin to 'The Matrix' an elaborate simulation of the real world and 'God' is the being or beings watching and controlling it all.
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We are all unique, just like everyone else.
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>>683569789
>attempts to emulate advanced intelligence
>spells "than" t - h - e - n
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>>683567820
>a power bottom that's more alpha than you
doesn't that make you gay? like you love the penis gay
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>>683571760
But we're not flawless, we're super-shoddy handiwork.

I have sort of gone the opposite way than you; when I started my nurse studying I was a theist. Again and again, my faith was attacked by the frailty, the ugliness, and needless complication of the human body.

We're just good enough to squeeze by, but not in any way amazing enough to be cast in the image of a divine being.
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I am really digging this theory of when you die y are not supposed to "follow the light". The light or the beckoning of you dead loved ones when you die are just another coercion for your soul to stay bound to this earth without any choice of reincarnation. I have heard from so called "experts" (could be a crock of shit for all I know). When you die you need to allow yourself to "fully awaken" before choosing if you want to go "into the light" or else where.
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>>683572518
you're saying when I die I will have a choice to reincarnate or do something else?
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>>683572518
if that's true, then it's possible the theory that the light at the end of the tunnel is your mother's vagina and if you chose not to be born, you were basically an abortion. Now why would you have gotten aborted? The main reason is downs syndrome. So in this case, it may be true after all.
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If there is a creator, one singular entity; they would not necessarily see themselves as God as depicted in religion.
They created and then moved on. They're not sitting in the clouds monitoring our sins; they do not care if you masturbate rape murder or eat bacon.
Island natives worship the Americans that inhabited their islands as gods during ww2
If there is a god they wouldn't know they were a god nor would they care.
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We are here to disappear
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I believe Donald Trump is the right candidate at this time.
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>>683572518
OP here.

In rare moments when your body is near dead. You are given a choice to die and move on or choose to stay alive. Some say that you've completed what you wanted to do in this life and no longer need to stay, or you can continue on.

Think of it as completing a RPG, once you finish and beat the game, you have no need to continue you playing. You can choose to continue and become even more stronger and unlock more things.
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>>683571874
>just before brain-death, then wherever you most deeply believe you're going is where you will go
so if I deeply believe I will get another chance at life as a man again it will happen?
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I believe college degrees are over hyped bullshit and work experience is more important in the work place.

I believe that each persons religion is a relationship with a higher being that they alone can comprehend understand and grow in and it's no one else's business to tell them how it should be.

I believe that people enter your life for a reason and leave it when that purpose is over.

I believe that no one can truly love.

I believe that every race has its own nigger to describe those that don't contribute to society.
>white trash
>nigger
>spic

I believe racism is dead in the modern world and people self segregate themselves and Blane it on others.
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>>683573103
But you wouldn't know it
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>>683573190
>and leave it when that purpose is over
how do you know when the purpose is over though?
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>>683572754

Yes, I am not expert but my understanding is that you have the choice to no longer be bound to this earth.

>>>>683573011
What OP said.
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ultimate cliche' but: Love
i made a promise with my best friend years ago that we would become enlightened together and spen the rest of existence looking over humans and just live in pure happiness forever.
sounds gay i know but its cool to think sbout
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>>683573293
It depends on the purpose.
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>>683573378
how does one know the purpose?
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science works and most magic is just misinterpreted science. there may be actual magic, but i have not seen it. silver helps. burning sulfur helps. st. benedict medals help. angels are real and not like in the bible. witches exist.
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Mythology is what we call other people's religions but it's all the same if there is a god they made everyone and not just the ones who worship him all the separation is pointless
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>>683573432
Listen to your inner voice.
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Trump for Prez. :D
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the mojave desert is a holy land and the sun is the one true god, fuck the moon
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>>683573432
You have to understand oneself and be accepting of yourself in order to begin to understand how you play apart as a whole.
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What we call 'reality' is holographic in nature, so we are in fact smaller versions of the whole (which you can call 'God', if you want). Every part of the whole contains the whole and, to be more accurate, IS the whole. And just as a drop of water contains the same qualities as an entire ocean of water, we likewise contain all that exists within us - but merely on a smaller scale.

"To see a world in a grain of sand
And a heaven in a wild flower
Hold infinity in the palm of your hand
And eternity in an hour." - William Blake

Not only did our ancestors know about the holographic nature of 'reality', but there is also scientific evidence for this paradigm.
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>>683573432
You'll never know the purpose til that person is gone. They'll teach you something and then they will move on.
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>>683573521
>>683573521
lol, my inner voice.
the source of all problems.
did you forget the inner voice is just a "what if" machine?
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>>683573702
This is parallel with Plato's city/soul anaolgy.
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>>683573712
yes but how do we trust in the lesson? what if its the wrong lesson? what if its not time for them to go yet?
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>>683573702

In the ancient Sanskrit language of India, the word 'siddhi' means 'perfection'. In its most common usage, the word 'siddhi' refers to an ability that is a natural and inherent faculty of our true identities as eternally alive souls. The soul is smaller than an atom and larger than the universe. The soul is infinitely small and infinitely large. The soul is ALL-PERFECT AND EVER-PERFECT. The soul is the storehouse of ALL ENERGY, ALL POWER AND ALL STRENGTH. The soul is PURE CONSCIOUSNESS. The soul possesses ALL siddhis and there are an INFINITE number of siddhis. Among all of these siddhis, there are considered to be eight major siddhis. Siddhis can be awakened through a variety of methods. In Patanjali's Yoga Sutras IV.1, it is stated:

"Siddhis may be attained through birth, the use of herbs, incantations, self-discipline or samadhi."

Here is a list of the eight major siddhis (in no particular order):

Laghima siddhi: Making your body and/or anything else as light as you want.

Garima siddhi: Making your body and/or anything else as heavy as you want.

Mahima siddhi: Making your body and/or anything else as large as you want.

Anima siddhi: Making your body and/or anything else as small as you want.

Prapti siddhi: Having unrestricted access to any and/or all places.

Prakamya siddhi: Fulfillment of whatever you desire.

Isitva siddhi: Control over any and/or all of the laws of nature.

Vasitva siddhi: Being able to control any and/or all beings.

"A man is a god in ruins. When men are innocent, life shall be longer, and shall pass into the immortal, as gently as we awake from dreams." - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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>>683573728
If you keep asking and searching you will probably start finding your answer. It takes time.
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>>683573812
People come exactly when they're needed and leave exactly when they're supposed to.
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>>683573728
What do you do when your history is full of shit? You clear it.

Same goes with your mind.
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>>683573822

Daily reminder that the ruling families are based in Europe, not America nor Israel. They are controlling America (and, indeed, the rest of the world) from Europe for its economic prosperity and military might via their secret society networks. These secret society networks hoard many things (like money - which they create anyway, natural resources such as gold and herbal medicines, and, most importantly of all, KNOWLEDGE). These secret societies hoard knowledge of TRUE history, TRUE mathematics, TRUE astronomy, TRUE health, TRUE physics, etc. and, most importantly of all, knowledge of the TRUE nature of 'reality' itself while teaching a false, incomplete and distorted version of those subjects to the general public, who usually unquestioningly accept all of it. They want people to point the finger of blame at America (and Israel, in the Muslim World), while not focusing on Europe in the belief that it is a faded superpower (which it is at the level of individual European countries, but that's not the point). The point is that these people are based in Europe (for historical reasons), but have set themselves up globally. They're found mainly in the City of London, Bavaria, Paris, Frankfurt, Rome and Geneva. The ruling families knew about the so-called 'New World' before individual European colonial empires even 'discovered' them, due to the ancient knowledge of geography hidden in their secret societies. The ruling families still control so-called 'former European colonies' via their secret society networks via the individual European countries that originally colonised those countries. (end of part 1)
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>>683574025

(start of part 2) There are secret societies controlling all of the major aspects of human civilisation, such as politics, the media (both mainstream AND alternative, yes, they have infiltrated the alternative media community too), international banking, corporations and entertainment. The secret societies have a FIERCELY compartmentalised, hierarchical structure and there is ultimately only ONE secret society that has ALL of the knowledge of the other secret societies, this secret society controls ALL of the other secret societies and thus, the whole world. (end)
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>>683573972
clearing your mind?
thats it? thats all it takes to know ones purpose?

>>683573872
takes time?
what if it wasnt time for someone to go and they left anyway? no lesson learned?
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>>683574070

Not only did our ancestors know about the holographic nature of 'reality', but there is also scientific evidence for the holographic nature of 'reality'.

"That is whole, this is whole.
From that wholeness, this wholeness comes.
Add the whole to the whole and the whole still remains.
Remove the whole from the whole and the whole still remains.
The whole remains the whole." - Isha Upanishad
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>>683574025
tl;dr
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>>683574070
Are these related to Masonics?
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nothing is true
believe conspiracies
believe everything
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>>683573972
OP here.

My ego is starting to kick in and I need sleep.

Thank you for participating in this thread and I hope we gave you pieces to the puzzle for those seeking them.

Good bye.
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>>683574163
aka let's start
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>>683574125
It's harder than one thinks. It takes many hours of practice to even hear a single thing from your inner voice.
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>>683573103
You might dream out your new life, yes. Of course that doesn't mean you could consciously decide that. Maybe my disappointment with my upbringing will lead me to a second-chance reenactment of it in the afterlife. Maybe I'll live again as a spirit of something I like (shrug).
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>>683574125
my mind sometimes feelss like an untamed horse. im bucking this way, running that way. stopping all that feels really good
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Nothing is true. Everything is permitted.
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>>683574129

We open our eyes and think we're seeing the whole world out there. But what has become clear - and really just in the last few centuries - is that when you look at the electromagnetic spectrum, we are seeing less than 1/10 billionth of the information that's riding on there. We call that 'visible light'. But everything else passing through our bodies is completely invisible to us. Even though we accept the 'reality' that's presented to us, we're really only seeing a little window of what's happening.
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>>683574156

I doubt that the highest secret society calls itself 'the Illuminati' (it's a meme name anyway), it probably doesn't even have a name so that it's super-hard to know that they exist (let alone to research them). Only secret societies that are low in the hierarchy are semi-known in the public arena (like Freemasonry, for example).
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https://youtu.be/sEOKgjoxoto
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akala_(rapper)
Some people lurkin this tread might be into this dude...he talks some of this shit theorized here
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>>683574428

Reptilians have taken over and infiltrated every level of human society (including our governments) for many thousands of years. The reason they've gotten away with it for so long is that they can assume a human form. They don't come from another physical planet per se, but from another band of frequency that vibrates very closely to this one (which enables them to flit back and forth from their dimension to ours).
Credo Mutwa called this frequency band/dimension 'the heaven between heavens'.
Their 'food' is our fear, our hatred, our suffering, our anger and our despair.
Shifting into a human form and entering into our dimension takes a lot of energy for them, so they can't stay here for long unless they possess the body of a human who is in vibrational resonance with them.
These humans are of a hybrid nature, their DNA is different from ours in that it is compatible with the reptilians (which is what allows them to be possessed). These humans are your kings, your banking dynasties (like the Rothschilds, for example), your presidents, etc. They have certain traits in common, like a lack of empathy, an obsession with being in control, lack of imagination, etc.
Oh, and they love lolis and gold.
These reptiles are pedophiles.
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>>683574363
ignorance will not solve any problems though.
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Life is a lie. Everything we see and experience is just a simulation, and nothing really exists or has value other than that of which we have given to it. Death and life aren't real, but we will never know really know. God doesn't exist! And if death does exist then it'll be the only way that can we truly begin to understand what life is
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>>683574125
When someone goes, where do you think they go?

What do you think we are comprised of? Are we much different from what is around us?

There are theories as to what makes us. What is our Soul? Makes most sense that our Soul and our being is energy. When we die and our soul leaves/ aka our energy it doesn't disintegrate. It still exists.

Just because you go doesn't mean that it is the end. Time and existence is only tied into the physical. When that portion is ommited what was when and what was then and what is now is no longer a concern (this plays into string theory and energy, and existence all at once everyone but in a single location at the same time)....

TL:DR- A lesson you are learning now in this life time is not limited to a lesson learned throughout your entire existence. We are limited, we are mortals with a limited sensibility. So we can only understand our lessons now in this present time in our existence, but that doesn't mean you have not experienced not already starting from were you last left off.
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>>683574517
>the highest secret society
don't you think we would know who they are by now cause people can't keep there mouths shut about anything or someone gets mad in their secret group and decides to out them?
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>>683574653

Here is something that Christine Fitzgerald told David Icke:
"The Queen Mother..... now that's a serious piece of wizardry. The Queen Mother is a lot older than people think. To be honest, the Royal Family hasn't died for a long time, they have just metamorphosised. It's sort of cloning, but in a different way. They take pieces of flesh and rebuild the body from one little bit. Because it's lizard, because it's cold-blooded, it's much easier for them to do Frankenstein shit than it is for us. The different bodies are just different electrical vibrations and they have got that secret, they've got the secret of the micro-currents, it's so micro, so specific, these radio waves that actually create the bodies (holograms)."
What I think is interesting here is that Christine Fitzgerald said "They take pieces of flesh and rebuild the body from one little bit.". In the ancient Indian epic poem known as the 'Mahabharat', there is a group of one hundred royal brothers known as the 'Kauravas'. The Kauravas are the antagonists of the Mahabharat. Do you know how the Kauravas were born? The Kauravas were born from a piece of lifeless flesh which was cut into one hundred pieces and then each of these one hundred pieces of flesh were put into one hundred jars filled with oil. After two years, the jars were opened and the Kauravas were released from the jars. If Christine Fitzgerald does not know about this story from the Mahabharat (which the Mahabharat ITSELF claims to be an account of actual historical events), then in my opinion, that gives more credibility to the things that Christine Fitzgerald has said to David Icke.
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There are only two things in life that are true.

>1. The inevitability of death
>2. OP is a fag
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>>683574800

What we need is to raise our level of consciousness, both individually and collectively. If even one person raises his or her level of consciousness, it has a ripple effect that benefits EVERYONE ELSE, even if they don't believe any of this stuff - and this is because 'reality' itself is HOLOGRAPHIC in nature. One of the ways that they have manipulated us so deeply for so long is by suppressing our sense of the possible. What we call 'reality' is COMPLETELY ILLUSORY and thus MALLEABLE - and they KNOW THIS, while most other people do NOT. EVERYTHING is illusory, EXCEPT consciousness itself. NOTHING is impossible in a universe that is ILLUSORY to begin with. We have the power to transform this prison illusion into a PARADISE ILLUSION, so let's USE that power.
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>>683574780
u mean like how prince got angry and decided to out them?
too bad he mysteriously died out of nowhere before he could yap.
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>>683574517


What is your theory on this? Do you have any guesses?
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>>683574869

Meme magic is real because what we call 'reality' is holographic in nature. The late scientist Emoto used to put written messages next to containers of water, then freeze the water and examine the crystals that had been formed using microscopic photography. The water that had been placed next to positive messages like "I love you." turned into visually pleasing crystal formations, while the water that had been placed next to negative messages like "You make me sick, I want to kill you." turned into irregular crystal formations. In the ancient Indian poem 'Ramayana', a bridge to Lanka is being built with stones for Rama by an army of monkey-like humanoid beings. However, the stones don't stick together to form a continuous structure. Hanuman, Rama's devotee, suggests that Rama's name be written onto the stones so that they stick together. This is done and the stones then stick together to form the bridge that they want to build. In both Emoto's experiments and that story from Ramayana, it's not the mere act of writing that accomplishes those seemingly miraculous results but the VIBRATING ENERGY FIELDS OF INFORMATION of what was written. One of the COMPLETELY FALSE assumptions of modern mainstream science is that our internal world (i.e. our thoughts and our emotions) has NO EFFECT WHATSOEVER on our external world. But the truth is that there is NO BOUNDARY between our 'internal world' and our 'external world'. They're BOTH movies that originate from the SAME projector room.
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dogs are better people than most people
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>>683575035

>>683575035

The base state of all things is energetic wave-form information, which has been confirmed by quantum physics. This is why everything can be perceived in an infinite number of different ways, because nothing can exist without being perceived and to be perceived, there must be a perceiver. When you see a rose as being red, a bee sees that same rose in shades of ultra-violet and a bat perceives that same rose as vibrations of sound. It all depends on the way that the information is 'read' (so to speak).

"If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is - infinite." - William Blake
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>>683574920
I find reading about conspiracies entertaining but I always not believe cause everyone says they this and they that.
I'm like...who is they? and where are they, can they die, etc,
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>>683575209

Here is merely SOME evidence (though DEFINITELY not ALL of the evidence) suggesting not only a human presence on Earth BILLIONS of years ago, but also suggesting complex human civilisations on Earth BILLIONS of years ago:

* A human skull fragment from Hungary dated between 250,000 and 450,000 years ago
* A human footprint with accompanying paleoliths (stones deliberately chipped into a recognisable tool type), bone tools, hearths and shelters, discovered in France and dated 300,000 to 400,000 years
* Paleoliths in Spain, a partial human skeleton and paleoliths in France; two English skeletons, one with associated paleoliths, ALL at least 300,000 years old
* Skull fragments and paleoliths in Kenya and advanced paleoliths, of modern human manufacture, in the Olduvai Gorge in Tanzania, dated between 400,000 and 700,000 years
* Neoliths (the most advanced stone tools and utensils) in China of a type that indicate full human capacity, dated to 600,000 years
* Hearths, charcoal, human femurs and broken animal bones, all denoting modern humanity, in Java, dated to 830,000 years
* An anatomically modern human skull discovered in Argentina and dated between 1 million and 1.5 million years years (eoliths -chipped pebbles, thought to be the earliest known tools- at Monte Hermoso, also in Argentina, are believed to be between 1 and 2.5 million years old).
* A human tooth from Java yielding a date between 1 and 1.9 million years years
* Incised bones, dated between 1.2 and 2.5 million years, have been found in Italy
* Discoveries of paleoliths, cut and charred bones at Xihoudu in China and eoliths from Diring Yurlakh in Siberia dated to 1.8 million years
* Eoliths in India, paleoliths in England, Belgium, Italy and Argentina, flint blades in Italy, hearths in Argentina, a carved shell, pierced teeth and even two human jaws all bearing a minimum date of 2 million years (end of part 1)
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>>683575387

(start of part 2) Curiously enough, several of the very earliest artifact discoveries display a truly extraordinary level of sophistication. In Idaho, for example, a 2-million-year-old clay figurine was unearthed in 1912. But even this discovery does not mark an outer limit. Bones, vertebrae and even complete skeletons have been found in Italy, Argentina and Kenya. Their minimum datings range from 3 million to 4 million years. A human skull, a partial human skeleton and a collection of neoliths discovered in California have been dated in excess of 5 million years. A human skeleton discovered at Midi in France, paleoliths found in Portugal, Burma and Argentina, a carved bone and flint flakes from Turkey all have a minimum age of 5 million years.
How far back can human history be pushed with discoveries like these? The answer seems to be a great deal further than orthodox science currently allows. As if the foregoing discoveries were not enough, we need to take account of:
* Paleoliths from France dated between 7 and 9 million years
* An eolith from India with a minimum dating of 9 million years
* Incised bones from France, Argentina and Kenya no less than 12 million years old
* More paleolith discoveries from France, dated at least 20 million years ago
* Neoliths from California in excess of 23 million years
* Three different kinds of paleoliths from Belgium with a minimum dating of 26 million years
* An anatomically modern human skeleton, neoliths and carved stones found at the Table Mountain, California and dated at least 33 million years ago
But even 33 million years is not the upper limit. A human skeleton found in Switzerland is estimated to be between 38 and 45 million years old. France has yielded up eoliths, paleoliths, cut wood and a chalk ball, the minimum ages of which range from 45 to 50 million years.
There's still more.
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>>683575419

(start of part 3) In 1960, H. L. Armstrong announced in Nature magazine the discovery of fossil human footprints near the Paluxy River, in Texas. Dinosaur footprints were found in the same strata. In 1983, the Moscow News reported the discovery of a fossilised human footprint next to the fossil footprint of a three-toed dinosaur in the Turkamen Republic. Dinosaurs have been extinct for approximately 65 million years.
In 1983, Professor W. G. Burroughs of Kentucky reported the discovery of three pairs of fossil tracks dated to 300 million years ago. They showed left and right footprints. Each print had five toes and a distinct arch. The toes were spread apart like those of a human used to walking barefoot. The foot curved back like a human foot to what appeared to be a human heel. There was a pair of prints in the series that showed a left and right foot. The distance between them is just what you'd expect in modern human footprints.
In December 1862, The Geologist carried news of a human skeleton found 27.5 m (90 ft) below the surface in a coal seam in Illinois. The seam was dated between 286 and 320 million years. It's true that a few eoliths, skull fragments and fossil footprints, however old, provide no real backing for the idea of advanced prehistoric human civilisations.
But some other discoveries do.
In 1968, an American fossil collector named William J. Meister found a fossilised human shoe print near Antelope Spring, Utah. There were trilobite fossils in the same stone, which means it was at least 245 million years old. Close examination showed that the sole of this shoe differed little, if at all, from those of shoes manufactured today.
In 1897, a carved stone showing multiple faces of an old man was found at a depth of 40 m (130 ft) in a coal mine in Iowa. The coal there was of similar age.
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>>683575292
i obviously meant the illuminati when i said "them" dude.
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>>683575447

(start of part 4) A piece of coal yielded up an encased iron cup in 1912. Frank J. Kenwood, who made the discovery, was so intrigued he traced the origin of the coal and discovered it came from the Wilburton Mine in Oklahoma. The coal there is about 312 million years old.
In 1844, Scottish physicist Sir David Brewster reported the discovery of a metal nail embedded in a sandstone block from a quarry in the north of England. The head was completely encased, ruling out the possibility that it had been driven in at some recent date. The block from which it came is approximately 360 million years old.
On 22 June 1844, The Times reported that a length of gold thread had been found by workmen embedded in stone close to the River Tweed. This stone too was around 360 million years old.
Astonishing though these dates may appear to anyone familiar with the orthodox theory of human origins, they pale in comparison with the dates of two further discoveries.
According to Scientific American, dated 5 June 1852, blasting activities at Meeting House Hill, in Dorchester, Massachusetts, unearthed a metallic, bell-shaped vessel extensively decorated with silver inlays of flowers and vines. The workmanship was described as 'exquisite'. The vessel was blown out of a bed of Roxbury conglomerate dated somewhat earlier than 600 million years.
In 1993, Michael A. Cremo and Richard L. Thompson reported the discovery 'over the past several decades' of hundreds of metallic spheres in a pyrophyllite mine in South Africa. The spheres are grooved and give the appearance of having been manufactured. If so, the strata in which they were found suggest they were manufactured 2.8 BILLION years ago.
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>>683575473

(start of part 5) What are we to make of these perplexing discoveries? They cannot simply be dismissed. If even ONE of these discoveries is TRUE (and I believe that MANY if not ALL of these discoveries are TRUE), then it changes EVERYTHING that modern mainstream anthropologists THOUGHT they knew about the human species. (end)
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>>683575501

What the fossil record indicates to us is quite creepy.
Plants first appear in the fossil record about 450 million years ago. There is no indication of them having developed out of any earlier form. They simply appear. What's more, every major form of plant arrives together. This can only be explained in orthodox evolutionary terms if none of the millions of intermediate stages which led to this dramatic development ever fossilised. The chances against this are ASTRONOMICAL.
The first flowering plants also appear in the fossil record fully formed. Although we have an abundance of fossils of the earlier, non-flowering species, not a single one of these can be described as an intermediate form on the evolutionary path to flowers. At one point, there were no flowering plants. At another, flowering plants were all over the place.
You find exactly the same bizarre pattern in the animal kingdom.
The earliest fish with spines and brains appeared some 450 million years ago. In all the many curious lifeforms discovered in the sea, they had no apparent evolutionary ancestors. According to orthodox doctrine, the cartilaginous skeleton found in the certain fish - like the ray - gradually evolved into a bony skeleton. The fossil record shows cartilaginous fish appeared (without apparent ancestors) 75 million years AFTER bony fish.
Orthodox doctrine also insists fish with jaws gradually evolved from jawless varieties. The fossil record shows nothing of that sort. Fish with jaws suddenly appeared, with no discernible ancestry. Furthermore, these jawed fish somehow evolved into one jawless species - the lamprey - despite the fact that jawlessness is supposed to be a characteristic destined to be selected out of the life stream. (end of part 1)
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>>683575543

(start of part 2) Darwinian theory suggests that lung-fish, capable of breathing both on land and underwater, eventually evolved primitive legs out of their gills and crawled onto a beach to become the first amphibians. Amphibians certainly exist. What isn't known to currently exist is a single intermediate fossil tracing the famous lung-fish gills-to-legs evolutionary sequence. Some 320 million years ago, fossils of fully a dozen orders of amphibians began to be laid down. All had well-developed limbs, shoulders and pelvic girdles. None showed the slightest sign of having evolved from fish or even from anything else that evolved from fish.
Fish species themselves show no signs of evolution. The shark who terrifies swimmers today is the same beast he was 150 million years ago. Oysters and mussels have been around unchanged for even longer - they appeared in their present form and were arguably just as delicious 400 million years ago.
Mammals appeared suddenly as well. The orthodox theory suggests that they evolved from a single, tree-dwelling, shrew-like creature that expanded into the niche left when the dinosaurs perished. There was indeed such a creature, but the fossil record gives no indication whatsoever that it evolved into anything. Instead, 10 million years after the dinosaurs disappeared, a dozen or so separate and distinct mammalian species turn up without warning in the fossil record... in areas as distinct as South America, Africa and Asia. There are no intermediate fossils showing a connection between these mammals and the earlier shrew. There are no fossils showing any inter-species evolution either. Among the fossil mammals that appeared so abruptly at that time are lions, bats and bears that you would recognise IMMEDIATELY if you were chased by them today. What's going on here? (end)
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so I'm starting to think life and many other things are not that hard to figure out.
I'm not saying I have or will figure it out.

It's just that there's so much mis-information out there that we can't get to the good parts.
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I am UTTERLY, UTTERLY CONVINCED that humans are NOT NATIVE to Earth. My theory regarding the origin of humanity is that the human species comes from elsewhere in the Milky Way galaxy and, at some point in the distant past, our earliest ancestors colonised vast swathes of the Milky Way galaxy (and are possibly still doing so) and both Mars and Earth were colonised by them along the way. There are pyramidal structures and a Sphinx-like object in various NASA photos of Mars. I also think that a fiercely destructive interplanetary war caused the destruction of a planet that used to exist between Mars and Jupiter, leaving only the asteroid belt that we know today. This war also sterilised Mars, turning what was once a lush, verdant, Earth-like planet into a cold, lifeless desert.
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>>683575740
did someone say utterly?
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>>683559763
- God was invented by the consciousness, but at the same time consciousness is god. (There is no need to insist on separate the terms)
- Humans have infinite potentiality, to awake it is the task of each soul.
- Energy channels
- Science and myth more often than not refer to same shit, just people like to argue about it and not get the main point of the stuff.

So far I've read about budism, hinduism, islam, christianity, mayan and egyptians.

About the sacred texts I think they basically give a positive message, if you're not a retard that would go stoning people and being an extremist.

Lately have been reading about the luciferian mindset, alchemy and mormons. Don't have any conclusions on those 3 yet.

It's not an easy task to try and understand the universe, I think is a quest meant to last all your life, and the key is to keep what is usefull and what you think is right from each culture that you jump into.
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>>683575740

The 'God' of the Abrahamic religions (i.e. Judaism, Christianity and Islam) is actually the Demiurge. Worshipping the Demiurge and praying to the Demiurge gives energy to the Demiurge. The Demiurge receives an energy bonanza from Muslims in particular, who pray to him five times a day. Energy flows where attention goes.

Human dynasties = Darth Vader

Archons = Emperor Palpatine

Demiurge = Dark Side of the Force
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>>683575993

God (the REAL God, not the Demiurge who is posing as 'God') created humans for the same reason that It created every other form of life - to experience Itself through those forms of life. God manifested this universe from Its consciousness, this universe is naught but God's dream. God is pure consciousness, hence everything in this universe (and in 'reality' in general) is consciousness. Everything is eternally alive and has an identity of its own, even so-called 'abstract' things like war and peace. When God manifested this universe, all that was not in harmony with the natural order of the universe assumed an identity that some people today call 'the Demiurge'. This identity is essentially a self-aware distortion. Although the Demiurge is conscious (like everyone else and everything else), it does NOT have a soul (actually, it IS NOT a soul, to be more accurate). This is why I like to call the Demiurge 'the Machine'. The Demiurge is cold, emotionless, sociopathic, relentless, exceedingly Machiavellian and PROFOUNDLY EVIL according to the conception of 'evil' that is accepted by the average person (although the Demiurge does not think of itself as being 'evil', because it considers itself to have transcended the duality of 'good' and 'evil'). The Demiurge has an important job, its job is to keep the machinery of the universe in perpetual motion. At some point in time, the Demiurge manifested a bad copy of the universe made of computer codes and now, due to the Demiurge's fuckery with our DNA, most people on this planet can only perceive the copy universe, not the more expansive original universe. Edgar Allen Poe was right when he said "All that we see or seem is but a dream within a dream."

Original universe = Original illusion

Copy universe = Demiurge illusion

Most people on this planet are perceiving an illusory universe nested in an illusory universe. The universe that most people on this planet are perceiving is a fake!
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life is fake and gay.
блять.
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>>683559763
Satan is not the lord of hell, he will burn with other sinners. Don't believe his promises for he lies always, and he hates the children of adam
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I'm going to tell you about a concept that I call 'conspiracy misdirection'. It's basically a type of misinformation/disinformation. Conspiracy misdirection is what happens when a conspiracy theory is propagated that is considered to be the truth about whatever that conspiracy theory is about, but actually is NOT the truth and hides an even GREATER conspiracy that is TRUE (and thus NOT a 'theory'). One of the MAJOR techniques that intelligence agencies such as the CIA, MI5, the Mossad, etc. use to deceive us is conspiracy misdirection, which is to make certain conspiracy theories popular in mainstream society that are used to push us further away from the truth. I'll give you an example: They'll tell us that the Apollo 11 Moon landing never happened, although I think that what most likely happened is that the Apollo 11 Moon landing not only happened, but they found more than they bargained for on the Moon like artifacts and ruins which CONFIRM that we are NOT alone in the universe. Eventually, we might have even been warned to never come back - which might explain why we've never gone back to the Moon since 1972. Even if we weren't warned to never return to the Moon, we DID land on the Moon and found WORKS OF INTELLIGENCE on it. I am UTTERLY CONVINCED that people on the NASA payroll are pushing the 'Moon hoax' conspiracy theory to push people further from the possibility that beings (possibly even ancient HUMAN beings) landed on the Moon a long time ago and built stuff there. The 'Moon hoax' theory might have even been CREATED by NASA employees. COME ON people, THINK. What do you think is the more paradigm-shattering secret?: The possibility that we DIDN'T land on the Moon or the possibility that we DID land on the Moon and found artificial stuff there? OBVIOUSLY it's the second possibility. (end of part 1)
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>>683576247

(start of part 2) You see, the REAL reason why the second possibility is being hidden from us is NOT because a loving government wants to prevent mass panic (that's just the cover story), but because they want to prevent us from asking 'too many' questions. If it were confirmed that we DID land on the Moon and found artificial stuff there but were lied to about such a historic discovery, then people (and LOTS of them) WOULD ask more questions about what else they've been lied to about. They'd say "Well, they lied to us about that, so what ELSE have they lied to us about? The origin and history of the human species? The pharmaceutical industry? Free energy? The banking industry?" It opens the door to EVERYTHING. EVERYTHING. And THAT'S why the 'Moon hoax' theory is FIERCELY promoted, while most people have almost NEVER heard of that second possibility (and, more worryingly, probably haven't even THOUGHT ABOUT IT). Another example of conspiracy misdirection is the sudden popularity of the Flat Earth theory. The sudden popularity of the Flat Earth theory is a CIA psyop designed to divide and distract people from the TRUE nature of Earth, which is that Earth is HOLLOW. Earth's crust is about 800 miles thick and there is a 'sun' at Earth's centre (which is actually a nuclear fission reactor) which is about 650 miles in diameter and the distance between a dweller in the Inner Earth world and their inner central 'sun' is only about 2,900 miles. (end of part 2)
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>>683576271

(start of part 3) Okay, this is a shorter version of what conspiracy misdirection is for people that don't like reading lots of text: Conspiracy misdirection is when a false conspiracy theory is used to hide a true conspiracy theory that has even more far-reaching implications than the false conspiracy theory. (end)
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>>683559763
I only believe in Karma.
I was a real asshole growing up and I feel like I'm paying the price now.
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>>683575993
You just want to blame abrahamic religions. Next you're gonna tell us xenu will save us right
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>>683576455

>Next you're gonna tell us xenu will save us right

No-one will save us but us. The choice is ours and ours alone.
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There is a "parent realm" that is the source of the entire multiverse.

This parent realm does not have physical or metaphysical laws like ours does.

A being from said realm has created our multiverse as an experiment.
It wants to answer the great questions that we ourselves struggle with:

1) what is the origin of existence
2) is there a "god"?
3) why can't anyone make a good superman movie?

Every human, animal, and other life-form shares the same soul.
This soul gathers data from every life it lives.

In essence, our multiverse and all dimensions/planes are the hardware and we (all life) are the software.

A single program with the simple task of experiencing as much as possible, and storing that information for later analysis.

The Entity hopes to find the answers to its questions within the microcosm of our multiverse.

I believe that this entity to be neutral to us.
While I'm sure it understands the concepts of empathy and sympathy, it probably doesn't feel them or care about them.

We are, after all, just a machine... a program to be modified and deleted as seen fit.

My suspicion is that we will not find the answer our Entity is searching for... and that eventually he will power us down and give up.

You cannot escape your programming.

You will experience all that is.

Every cow being led to the slaughter.
Every mother holding their baby son.
Every dictator and revolutionary.
Every squashed bug and loyal dog.
Every alien on every world in every circumstance.

Virus, bacteria, single cell, multi cell....

Past, Present, Future... every single experience that can be had.

And it doesn't stop there.
You have to relive every life... in every universe.
In every plane, in every dimension.
Horizontal, Vertical, Z axis...

An infinity of infinite lives.

Until either an answer is reached, or Entity concludes that there is no answer.
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You were on your way home when you died.
It was a car accident. Nothing particularly remarkable, but fatal nonetheless. You left behind a wife and two children. It was a painless death. The EMTs tried their best to save you, but to no avail. Your body was so utterly shattered you were better off, trust me.
And that’s when you met me.
“What… what happened?” You asked. “Where am I?”
“You died,” I said, matter-of-factly. No point in mincing words.
“There was a… a truck and it was skidding…”
“Yup,” I said.
“I… I died?”
“Yup. But don’t feel bad about it. Everyone dies,” I said.
You looked around. There was nothingness. Just you and me. “What is this place?” You asked. “Is this the afterlife?”
“More or less,” I said.
“Are you god?” You asked.
“Yup,” I replied. “I’m God.”
“My kids… my wife,” you said.
“What about them?”
“Will they be all right?”
“That’s what I like to see,” I said. “You just died and your main concern is for your family. That’s good stuff right there.”
You looked at me with fascination. To you, I didn’t look like God. I just looked like some man. Or possibly a woman. Some vague authority figure, maybe. More of a grammar school teacher than the almighty.
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"Don’t worry,” I said. “They’ll be fine. Your kids will remember you as perfect in every way. They didn’t have time to grow contempt for you. Your wife will cry on the outside, but will be secretly relieved. To be fair, your marriage was falling apart. If it’s any consolation, she’ll feel very guilty for feeling relieved.”
“Oh,” you said. “So what happens now? Do I go to heaven or hell or something?”
“Neither,” I said. “You’ll be reincarnated.”
“Ah,” you said. “So the Hindus were right,”
“All religions are right in their own way,” I said. “Walk with me.”
You followed along as we strode through the void. “Where are we going?”
“Nowhere in particular,” I said. “It’s just nice to walk while we talk.”
“So what’s the point, then?” You asked. “When I get reborn, I’ll just be a blank slate, right? A baby. So all my experiences and everything I did in this life won’t matter.”
“Not so!” I said. “You have within you all the knowledge and experiences of all your past lives. You just don’t remember them right now.”
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I stopped walking and took you by the shoulders. “Your soul is more magnificent, beautiful, and gigantic than you can possibly imagine. A human mind can only contain a tiny fraction of what you are. It’s like sticking your finger in a glass of water to see if it’s hot or cold. You put a tiny part of yourself into the vessel, and when you bring it back out, you’ve gained all the experiences it had.
“You’ve been in a human for the last 48 years, so you haven’t stretched out yet and felt the rest of your immense consciousness. If we hung out here for long enough, you’d start remembering everything. But there’s no point to doing that between each life.”
“How many times have I been reincarnated, then?”
“Oh lots. Lots and lots. An in to lots of different lives.” I said. “This time around, you’ll be a Chinese peasant girl in 540 AD.”
“Wait, what?” You stammered. “You’re sending me back in time?”
“Well, I guess technically. Time, as you know it, only exists in your universe. Things are different where I come from.”
“Where you come from?” You said.
“Oh sure,” I explained “I come from somewhere. Somewhere else. And there are others like me. I know you’ll want to know what it’s like there, but honestly you wouldn’t understand.”
“Oh,” you said, a little let down. “But wait. If I get reincarnated to other places in time, I could have interacted with myself at some point.”
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“Sure. Happens all the time. And with both lives only aware of their own lifespan you don’t even know it’s happening.”
“So what’s the point of it all?”
“Seriously?” I asked. “Seriously? You’re asking me for the meaning of life? Isn’t that a little stereotypical?”
“Well it’s a reasonable question,” you persisted.
I looked you in the eye. “The meaning of life, the reason I made this whole universe, is for you to mature.”
“You mean mankind? You want us to mature?”
“No, just you. I made this whole universe for you. With each new life you grow and mature and become a larger and greater intellect.”
“Just me? What about everyone else?”
“There is no one else,” I said. “In this universe, there’s just you and me.”
You stared blankly at me. “But all the people on earth…”
“All you. Different incarnations of you.”
“Wait. I’m everyone!?”
“Now you’re getting it,” I said, with a congratulatory slap on the back.
“I’m every human being who ever lived?”
“Or who will ever live, yes.”
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“I’m Abraham Lincoln?”
“And you’re John Wilkes Booth, too,” I added.
“I’m Hitler?” You said, appalled.
“And you’re the millions he killed.”
“I’m Jesus?”
“And you’re everyone who followed him.”
You fell silent.
“Every time you victimized someone,” I said, “you were victimizing yourself. Every act of kindness you’ve done, you’ve done to yourself. Every happy and sad moment ever experienced by any human was, or will be, experienced by you.”
You thought for a long time.
“Why?” You asked me. “Why do all this?”
“Because someday, you will become like me. Because that’s what you are. You’re one of my kind. You’re my child.”
“Whoa,” you said, incredulous. “You mean I’m a god?”
“No. Not yet. You’re a fetus. You’re still growing. Once you’ve lived every human life throughout all time, you will have grown enough to be born.”
“So the whole universe,” you said, “it’s just…”
“An egg.” I answered. “Now it’s time for you to move on to your next life.”
And I sent you on your way.
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>>683577992
If only it stopped there.

But you'd have to live every 'god' life too.
And find that you've only hatched into an even larger egg.

And that it's eggs nested inside each other.
Forever.
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>>683577992
i've read that elsewhere...any sauce?
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>>683578325
http://www.galactanet.com/oneoff/theegg_mod.html
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>>683571992
so many daddy issues
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>>683574393
This.
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Golden Ratio is fundemental
Being is the product of Not - being
Resolution can only ever be relative
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I believe if you work 8hrs a day 5 days a week u an idiot
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>>683564516

>every human was humble and nice to each other
>nice to each other
>nice

Nothing is more dangerous to the advancement of strong and controversial ideas than being 'nice'. 'Nicety' implies refraining from being straightforward and honest.
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>>683580901
These are not mutually exclusive concepts. Right now, I'm politely asking you to reevaluate your argument. Which is both straightforward and honest.
You fucking fag.
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I had two psychosis in my life and it made me a believer.

God is real. That's the gist of what I know.
Not the abrahamic God of the bible/koran/judaism, just a merciful chill understanding God who "lives" inside all of us, but also everywhere on the outside.

I started out and was raised as an atheist, but psychosis made me understand things about this reality I couldn't comprehend otherwise. It's still hard to put into words, other than there is a God and we're immortal.. I guess I'm now what you'd call a mad prophet type person.. I'm still not sure if I should preach about it though, at least not in real life. I think my atheistic friends have to figure out shit on their own, and wouldn't benefit from me telling them how wrong they really are.

I long for this feeling of unity with God that I had during psychosis, and part of me is awfully curious about death, but I also enjoy living very much, we'll find out who's right soon enough I guess, and until then it doesn't hurt to at least try to behave like a half decent human being no matter what you believe.
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a single entity uses all life as probes to explore interactions on other planets. Upon death the probe is returned and recycled. Such is life. Such is death.
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At the root of everything we do we do it to make ourselves happy, even if we're doing something for someone else, we only do it because we know the emotional reward will be worth it, not because we just want to help someone. We are selfish creatures
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>>683559763
Satan created life
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I believe there is a advanced alien planet within the sun that disguises itself as a star, with a force-field the like we cannot comprehend.
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>>683581928
that doesnt make ANY sense.
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I believe they could have a gravity generating device to keep a stable rotation.
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>>683576585
The parent realm you speak of is hyperspace.

The biggest last question is how to reverse entropy.

Basically read this: (it's a really short awesome story by Asimov and describes partially what I believe)
http://www.physics.princeton.edu/ph115/LQ.pdf

This is the way God reproduces.

It has already happened infinite times, and it will happen again eternally.
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>>683582403
Bitch, you know how much coffee I've had? I'm as awake as it gets.
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Something created our laws of science.
There's more than one universe, they might or might not have different laws of science.
I'd like to believe there's a heaven because I cant conceivably grasp what being dead is like so I try to imagine that my consciousness goes somewhere.
Even if heaven isn't real I've seen enough paranormal shit firsthand to be convinced that there's SOMETHING after death.
"God" or whatever created science, probably doesn't give a shit about us unless he's bored.
All religions are equal parts awesome and stupid, there's always gonna be zealots. Personally I don't have the energy to spend my life worshiping a god that might not even know we exist because he's been busy in the Andromeda Galaxy for the last couple billion years.
I believe everyone has a soul and every decision we make leaves impressions on our soul, changing it.
I believe the soul is like a ticket stub to carry your conscious mind somewhere after death automatically (evidence pending whether or not certain animals have souls as well). This can explain paranormal things like ghosts in my mind because the transfer of a conscious mind got screwed somewhere during the process.

Rick and Morty said it the best.
Nobody exists on purpose.
Nobody belongs anywhere.
Everyone's gonna die.
Come watch TV?
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