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sup /b/

ask a real christian anything!
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>>683322202

name all apostles.
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>>683322564
>apostles.
Gospel of Matthew[Mt 10:1–4] Gospel of Mark[Mk 3:13–19] Gospel of Luke[Lk 6:12–16] Gospel of John The Book of Acts Greek transliteration
Simon ("who is called Peter") Simon ("to whom he gave the name Peter") Simon ("whom he named Peter") Simon Peter / Cephas Peter Sim(e)on Petros
Andrew ("his [Peter's] brother") Andrew Andrew ("his brother") Andrew ("brother of Simon Peter") Andrew Andreas
James ("son of Zebedee") James ("son of Zebedee") / one of the "Boanerges" James one of the "sons of Zebedee" James Iakōbos
John ("his [James's] brother") John ("brother of James") / one of the "Boanerges" John one of the "sons of Zebedee" / thought to be the "disciple whom Jesus loved"[13:23][20:2] John Ioannes
Philip Philip Philip Philip Philip Philippos
Bartholomew Bartholomew Bartholomew Nathanael Bartholomew Bartholomaíos
Thomas Thomas Thomas Thomas ("also called Didymus")[11:16][20:24][21:2] Thomas Thomas Didymos
Matthew ("the tax collector") Matthew Matthew not mentioned Matthew Matthaios (Levi?)
James ("son of Alphaeus") James ("son of Alphaeus") James ("son of Alphaeus") not mentioned James son of Alphaeus Iakōbos
Thaddaeus Thaddaeus Jude ("son of James") Jude ("not Iscariot")[14:22] Judas son of James Ioudas Thaddaios
Simon ("the Cananean") Simon ("the Cananean") Simon ("who was called the Zealot") not mentioned Simon the Zealot Simon o Zelotos
Judas Iscariot Judas Iscariot Judas Iscariot Judas ("son of Simon Iscariot") (Judas replaced by Matthias) Ioudas Iskarion

Here you go. Anything else?
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>>683322811
i hate you. you're fat. are you m or f?
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OP delivered??!!!!!
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>>683323245
ctrl-v
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>>683322811
name the twelve tribes of israel without ctrl-v this time
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>>683323245
yep
>>683323394
nope
>>683323120
yep
>>683323585
nope

Any serious questions?
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>>683323722
fine whatever have you read the whole bible cover to cover?
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>>683323722
What do you fap to
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>>683323930
Three times.
>>683323974
Not allowed in the book.
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Are you the beast
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>>683322202
Real as in an actual Christian? Also, what makes you more legitimate than any other self-professed 'real' Christian?
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>>683322202
are you a man or a woman
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how do you justify Gods immoral actions in the bible? such as Slavery (Exodus 21)
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>>683324292
Which domination are you Catholic morman Baptist
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do you eat shrimp? wear mixed fabrics? think that women should serve men?
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why are you believing in fairy tales
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do you work on the Sabbath?
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how old do you think the Earth is?
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is Jesus God?
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do rabbits chew their own cud? are bats birds?
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>>683324744
and genocide (joshua 6:21)
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>>683324517
Not some watered down liberal version of Christianity, also no version of Christianity that claims there is a loving or just god.
>>683324529
see pic
>>683324744
It was his will, and he has a bigger plan.
>>683324812
Correct, I'm a Catholic morman Baptist christian.
>>683324940
don't like it, maybe, yes
>>683325032
not even on the other 6 days
>>683324956
There is proof of every story in the book. Today, quantum physics does prove God's word.
>>683325128
~5000 yrs
>>683325200
Both God's son and God himself.
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favorite commandment?
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>>683322202
>>683322811
>>683323722
>>683324292
>>683325371
who let that filthy Hawaiian in?
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if are is and cant why but how then we don't are we then god is real?
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>>683325345
He commited genocide so a bigger genocide won't happen
>>683325481
The one that makes murder illegal because that improved the quality of life for humanity a lot
>>683325622
not hawaiian
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are you hate islam?
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>>683325371
what religion are your parents
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>>683325371
>It was his will, and he has a bigger plan.
what about children that die at birth?
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>~5000 yrs
how do you reconcile that the vast majority of science (geology, biology, astronomy and chemistry) shows that the Earth is vastly older than 5000 years
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>>683325371
Ok I had some serious questions but I guess the fat stored around your brain has clouded your judgment take the new hat mommy bought you and that shirt you will be wearing for a week cause you think it's cool but brings out you man tits and burn it no one but church people will accept you
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>>683325843
>He commited genocide so a bigger genocide won't happen

did he really have to kill the children as well?
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>>683325843
GET a hair cut loser
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how big is ur preachers weenor?
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favorite book/chapter of the bible?
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>>683326418
im guessing 4"
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why does God sanction laws that allow the purchase and selling of daughters?
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>>683322202
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0d1P77VkKA
THE BEAST
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>>683325371
"5000 years"
its retarded
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is Jesus a man or a divine being?
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>>683325622
hawaii is 99.9% democrat
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>>683325911
They are okay, but the q'ran is not God's word. Still better than atheists lol
>>683326038
Christian
>>683326081
>what about children that die at birth?
Hitler 2 is born -> BOOM! dies at birth -> problem solved
>>683326081
There is no scientific proof for any of this. Only emotional arguments.
>>683326252
see above
>>683326273
I keep my hair in a shape that is allowed by the Book.
>>683326493
Noah's arch story
>>683326418
see pic
>>683326664
because it improves society as a whole
>>683326761
He is the son of God
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when will Jesus come back?
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>>683325843
Post pics of your room OP
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>>683326915
I thought you were in prison
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>>683326915
I bet your hungry aren't you
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Where can I find the Sexybitch.rar file I downloaded years ago on my laptop that has since bit the dust? the chick in it was so hot and she had a zelda tattoo on her neck or ass, I don't remember which, the file contains 49 pictures and 3 videos, Mediafire has deleted it, do you think anybody else has it backed up?
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>>683326915
the bible says that long hair is bad
http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/11-14.htm
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>>683326915
>There is no scientific proof for any of this. Only emotional arguments.
nope

>Hitler 2 is born -> BOOM! dies at birth -> problem solved
then why didn't god kill Hitler 1, also that kid could have been Albert Einstein 2
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Favorite movie?
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>>683327262
it was all amature shit too, if that helps.
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>>683326915
how many times do you argue with atheist a day/week
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>>683326915
why would a christian like you be on 4chan? Isn't looking at this kind of shit a sin for you?
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was adam and eve real?
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>>683326915
why do you pray to jesus if there can be only 1 god and that is his father
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>real christian
>on 4chan
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>>683322202
why didn't god grant you a hexatruple get?
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>>683326921
It's actually illegal to claim to know when he will return (exactly), but most bible scientists and I do think that he will return during our lifetime (next 50 yrs probably).
>>683327262
>>683327757
no idea
>>683327662
The Memory Book
>>683327827
about twice a week, usually on Reddit/4chan
>>683327970
Because I want to offer something to people like you.
>>683328128
yes
>>683328256
Because he is God's son. And I primarily pray to God.
>>683328369
>muh edgy /b/
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>>683322202
Why do you workship a pedophile?
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>>683328678
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>>683328896
^
see matthew 19:14
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Was it your father's beating or your mom's abuse that lead you to the autistic route of thought?
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>>683329483
kek
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>>683328678
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Hahahah no scientific proof that the world is older then 5000 years, hahahahaha. Nigger you know them dinosaur bones at the smitsonian.
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Are gay people sinful?
Or are they "all brothers and sisters in the eyes of god"?
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>>683322202

Do you belive in a aliens
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Prove to me that there is a god.
The collective ramblings of old madmen called "the Holy Bible" does not count, as much of what was written can be disproven
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>>683330176
They are here to test our faith. Don't get fooled, m8.
>>683330200
I think the book is very clear about this.
>>683330475
If they exist, they were also created by God. But since they are never mentioned in the bible, I doubt their existence.
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>>683330123
I almost fell out of my chair reading this .lol
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>>683330687
Hahahahhahahaahhahahaha well ur gonna die in 2 years anyway so i wont bother anymore but you are one stupid idiot.
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I have no friends to watch MLP with, will Jesus be friend and watch it with me?
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>>683328678
>Bible Scientists
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>>683330176
forget that, we have living trees that are older than that, the Sumerians and Mesopotamian culture is older than that.
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>>683330945
I can watch it with you. Actually like it.
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why does god sent unbaptised babies to hell?
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>>683328678
>>683330687
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>>683322202
Hey OP just wondering where u got that sick DC hat!!
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>>683330687

Toasters were never mentioned in the bible either so how the hell did I burn my mouth with a pop tart, faggot?
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>>683330980
exactly, and THEY were in the bible.
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>>683322202
How much Greek do you know?
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>>683330980
Indeed beer alone is 6000 years old (invented by the mesopotamians)
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>>683322202
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how did Noah get every animal onto the ark? how did he keep penguins and lions in the same climate? how did he get the sloth to come to the ark when it travels 6ft per hour and lives in Brazil?
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If god loves the world and one of the commandment asks that we not kill eachother, then why did the Catholics go on the centuries long killing spree we call the "Crusades" and th e "Spanish Inquisition"?
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>>683330603
Modern science is built upon the bible. Nothing in it was ever disproven.

More proof?
If there is no God, then:
1) How was the universe created?
2) Where will you go after death?
3) From where do we get morals?

>>683330945
He is always with you. I can always feel his presence around me.
>>683331119
Walmart
>>683331173
God did inspire the inventor of the toaster. It doesn't have to be mentioned in the bible.
>>683331218
>>683330980
>>683331180
not true. Don't listen to distractors who say stuff like this.
>>683331320
with God's help
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What do you think of Stryper's latest album. 2013's "No More Hell To Pay"? Instant Christian Classic, am I right?
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why did Jesus kill children for throwing stones at him?
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>>683331574
Hahahahahaha distractors, thank (god?) you have diabetes and soon your foot will fall off.
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>>683330687
goatfuckers wrote a book 2000 years ago that the earth is old 6000 years and you believe that.
there are pedophiles in churches, yet you believe they are people of god. all i see is money grabing people.if god can kill babies who are gonna be hitler, then why does he let the evil people in churches live. don't tell me thats his plan
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I'm like 70% sure this fat fucker is a guy.
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Googled him.
Aspergers
Likes pepsi for some goddamn reason
Total Swag fag
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Joseph8276
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>>683331574
Judges 1:19
Iron Chariots crush armies blessed by god
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>>683331712
Because Jesus is a straight G, thugging ass street nigga.

real as fuck fam
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>>683331574
Holy moley there OP
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>>683331574
1: the universe as we know it was created by an event known as "the Big Bang" and before that, was a large mass of condensed matter
2:Nowhere/ ghost
3: the people who believe set the morals. The morals then impacted the society in Europe because the catholic faith was everywhere, and any non catholics where murdered. This then spread throughout aisa and the Americas.
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>1) How was the universe created?
it was created it rapidly expanded from a hot and condensed state

>2) Where will you go after death?
in the ground

>3) From where do we get morals?
from analyzing and understanding that my actions have consequences, where do you get your morals? from a God that sanctions slavery, genocide, infanticide, rape, sacrifice and eternal punishment for a finite crime?
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>>683331574
1) Big bang faggot , gravitational waves n' shit
2) nowhere the only reason you are you is because your brain is more evoluated than cats
3) ????
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>>683331574
What do you think about atheists?
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How dare you imposter the BEAST ,op? He will find you and dislike your post
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BURDEN OF PROOF MOTHERFUCKER!!!
CAN YOU MEET IT?
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OP is kill. Praise Allah
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Welp, i just saw this "Real Christian's" dick.
I'm going to go drink bleach now.
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>>683331566
>Catholics
That's a cult. Not real Christianity.
Source: http://www.eaec.org/cults.htm
>>683331712
He didn't. Don't make stuff up pls.
>>683331834
>goatfuckers wrote a book 2000 years ago [...]
But when goatfuckers write a book 150 years ago you start believing this evolution stuff?
>>683332010
?
>>683332174
>>683332302
According to atheist logic, we should kill retards as they serve no purpose and contribute nothing to society. But since we have morals from some very special source, we don't do it.
>>683332477
Then how did the big bang happen?? out of nowhere? or did someone 'start'/create it?
>>683332498
I want them to find their way to God, so they can enter heaven after death.
>>683332748
You can find all of the proof in the book
>>683332815
nah
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>>683332857
>>683325371
You fucked up OP
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>>683331574
You are implying, first, that morals derive exclusively from organized religion. Morals derive from popular culture.

Why would there have to be a god to explain creation? This is a loaded question. You are first suggesting that the universe had to be "created" and you are also suggesting that there had to be a "creator." This question is loaded because it attempts to limit the answers thereof.

Does your god inspire everyone to do what they do or do they, selectively, have free will?
For example: "Is genocide inspired by god?"

One more question: how does it make you feel that the Catholic Church regards much of the contents of Genesis as allegorical construction?
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>>683332857
>>683332748
Say the book had no truth whatsoever, where's your proof?
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>>683333111
OH HOLY FUCK I GOT TRIPS
And maybe quads?
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>>683332857
What do you mean "?" there a gigantic mole on your face do you not get the joke holy fat brain maybe you need to eat something I got you a cheezebuger
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>>683332857
you're autistic as Jehovah's Witnesses
> you only turn facts into non sensed questions
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>>683332857
>implying the largest religion in the world, that literally owns there own city, is a cult
>Implying that all other Christianity did not branch out from Catholicism
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>>683333432
> implying religions are society's cancer
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>>683333432
>Also Implying that christianity didn't branch out from Judaism
>And that christianity never started out as a cult
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>>683333622
>Implying that they totally are
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>>683333432
>Implying that all other Christianity did not branch out from Catholicism

Catholics actually believe this sort of thing.
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>>683333022
doing some gangbuster business there during dinner time
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>>683333111
its called the default position, the null hypothesis, you need to convince me of the claims
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Why do u allow yourself to be brainwashed by fairy tales?
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>>683333828
Op had said earlier that he was Catholic Mormon whatever.
Later he said Catholicism is a Cult
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>>683322811
An unchristian act to use someone else's list without crediting them fro their hard work.
You got this shit from here;
http://theinfolist.com/php/SummaryGet.php?FindGo=twelve_apostles
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we dont know what was 'before' the big bang, there probably was no 'before' because there was no time 'before' the big bang.
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2 funny things about the book of revelations

1. The book of revelations has been cited by various Pontiffs as being the theological basis for the Roman Catholic Church being the official Christian church.

2. The book of revelations has been cited by various Protestants as being evidence that the Pontiff is the Anti-Christ and that the Roman Catholic Church is a sinister force.
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>>683332857
You fucking imbicle, he's not asking for proof of God being real, he's asking for proof of the bible being a reliable source
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IS THIS THE ANON THAT KEEPS MAKING THOSE GOD DAMN WHY CAN"T GAYTHEISTS DEFINE GAYTHEISM CHILDLIKE EMPRESS THREADS??????


THIS IS THE MOTHER FUCKING PIECE OF NIGGER SHIT LICKING ASS FAGGOT SHITHEAD THAT KEEPS MAKING THOSE GODDAMN THREADS!
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>>683334073
>>683332827
Another unchristian act to speak of.
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Are you this guy? http://drunken-peasants-podcast.wikia.com/wiki/The_Beast
cause you sure look like him
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why did God make animals that have specific life cycles that require our death and suffering e.g. the Loa loa filariasis which can only live in human eyes and causes blindness
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>>683334185
that i am anon, why should i believe anything the bible says?
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>>683334259
What?
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>>683332857
If God is real, then why does he let this board exist?
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why did God make a world with suffering? hes all powerful right? why not make a world without Satan, sin and death?
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>>683334334
What's that crazy worm called?
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>>683333043
>This question is loaded
if you want to debate me, you have to answer difficult questions.
>Is genocide inspired by god?
Only if it serves a bigger plan, for example stop a bigger genocide.
>>683333043
>One more question: how does it make you feel that the Catholic Church regards much of the contents of Genesis as allegorical construction?
They are, as I already said, a cult.
>>683332857

>>683333111
It does.
>>683333432
>Implying that all other Christianity did not branch out from Catholicism
Not true at all, as other 4channers pointed out. Armenian and syrian christianity are older.
>>683333622
religion helps building a functional society (that we don't have nowadays)
>>683334002
That's what I want to know from you guys.
>>683334084
use 'genesis' instead of 'big bang' and you're correct
>>683334185
It being written by god is pretty fundamental proof, eh?
>>683334240
nah
>>683334529
Do you want to burn in the eternal flames of hell? You can try and use a lighter on your arm for a minute & see if you like it. If not, go read the bible.
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>>683334540
Showing your penis online comes to mind.
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>>683334693
that worm is a Bobbit worm, they grow to 11 feet in length and are toxic
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Okay, why is no one turning his/her fat ass into a meme? He/she is providing many opportunities.

No one is questioning OP's age.

OP thinks we can actually tell its gender from those pics.
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>>683334706
>>683334334
answer the question
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>>683334706
>written by god
That's great. Now, tell me of all the mountains built by jesus, and the Ark that was bigger than NYC built by Moses!
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>>683334862
holy shit, those things are scary

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eunice_aphroditois

proof there is no god
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>>683331566
>>683335104
And this. He just blew it off.
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>>683335171
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>>683324292
The fucking beast? No-one get this? Bahahah plebs. Watch Drunken Peasants. It's /b/ neckbeards, the podcast
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>>683334706
That was not the question, Where is any of your proof if the book is unreliable? and how do you know it is? is it because "the word of god" told you so? what if god isn't real? try getting that through your thick canadian skull.
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>>683334334
The bigger question is, why are you here and not reddit?
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>>683322811
Copy paste intensifie
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>Do you want to burn in the eternal flames of hell? You can try and use a lighter on your arm for a minute & see if you like it. If not, go read the bible.

i have no reason to believe that i will burn, the bible says i will burn if i dont follow it, the Koran says the same, so does the Torah, and the Vidas, why should i believe any of them?
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>>>683333111
>It does.
examples?
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This guy was arrested for being a pedo faggot.
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>>683322202
Where is your neck
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>>683334706
Wait a moment, how can you lecture anyone about morality when you were being convicted of possession of child pornography?

It would seem your morals are in question!
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>>683329442
>MOM LOOK IM TROLLING ON 4 CHAN LOL xD
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>>683335366
dont like reddit, always been a 4chan guy
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>>683334706
where is the proof your god had anything to do with bible.
what if words of your god were in some book, but the church edited it so they can gain power and money
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>>683322202
Gluttony is a sin obeseanon
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>ITT newfags
Bread is very old
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>>683322202
Is it hard being stupid?
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THIS IS A FUCKING TROLL. YOU, IDIOTS.

THE FATBOI IN THE PICTURE IS THE BEASTU JOE
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>>683334706
>God is real because the bible says so
>The bible is reliable because God made it
>Mfw this faggot belives what he's saying
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would you give away all of your worldly possessions and live in poverty and self sacrifice?
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This guy is under charges of possessing child porn.
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>>683334963
>No one is questioning OP's age.
24
>OP thinks we can actually tell its gender from those pics.
Shouldn't be too hard
<- here's a hint
>>683335104
they were worms created by god, but manipulated by the devil to be poisonous and attack humans. As you know, normal (God-made) worms don't do this.
>>683335127
>mountains built by jesus
no
>Ark that was bigger than NYC
Trees were bigger back then, so it's actually possible. There was some documentary that did prove this.
>>683335357
You're just a distractor. There's no point in debating you. Have fun in hell :)
>>683335366
I currently have negative karma there and have to create a new account to post again
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>>683322202
We know that a few ancient miracles were documented decades after their said occurrence.

After that, he decided not to be as nice stop being so helpful.

Do you really feel like this is a project worth organizing your life around?
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>>683335940
Gtfo BEASTU
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>>683335940
Still no answer about the crusades. They were long after Christianity was dubbed a real religion, and not a cult.
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if god has a special message for all of humanity he is by far the dumbest god ever, he is relying on copys of copys of translations of copys of translations of texts that were written by some country arab bumbkin who lives in the middle of nowhere 2000 years ago. that is not a pathway to truth
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>>683335940
but the devil was an angel, he's a good guy, he just torments evil people, why would he hurt good people. why would he need to manipulate others, when most people would alredy go to hell
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>>683335774
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>>683335940
Sooooo a female right?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bait_(luring_substance)
altho lurking here is pretty fun
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Just let this 404
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>>683322202
Why are you so fat?
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>>683325371
>It was his will, and he has a bigger plan.

Whatever god does or blesses, including murder,genocide and slavery are intrinsically good?

How can this maximize happiness among humans and animals?
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>>683335940

>As you know, normal (God-made) worms don't do this.
wut?
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Seriously?
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>>683336409
because instead of every sunday he eats body of christ every day
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Op god hates you beavouse you are a fag !
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I mean tbh I'm christian and this b8 is giving me dry heaves
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>>683335411
>>683335940
answer the question, why should i believe any holy book?
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>>683322202
What about the divine origin of certain holy books. How can you know they're of divine origin?

What about Hindu Vedas? They're said to have no been written by any human hand, and they predate christian writings by a thousand years.
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>>683336699
check em
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>>683335411
One of them has to be correct, and if I had to guess, I'd say it's the oldest one. Y'know, the holy Bible.
>>683335591
Not forbidden by the book
>>683335790
I would if there was 100% sure proof that it will help me in the afterlife.
>>683336091
Not landing in hell is a very important 'project'
>>683336139
The pope never represented real christianity
>>683336237
Nobody said he wants to make it easy to follow him. You have to put in some effort.
>>683336282
Read the entire bible pls. You will realize that everyone is a sinner in some way.

U guys post fast AF but I'm glad I can help you with your life choices.
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>>683336630
>I'm christian

9 million children under the age of 5 die around the world every year.

Given all that this god does not accomplish in the lives of others, how can you still believe in this mythology?
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>>683336753
and it is slightly more moral in some cases
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the next door neighbor's daughter says I can put it in her butt if I become a christian

so, how do I become a christian
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>One of them has to be correct, and if I had to guess, I'd say it's the oldest one.
the bible sure as shit aint the oldest kid
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>>683336896
>>683336896
>Not landing in hell is a very important 'project'

There isn't a shred of evidence to support that a heaven or hell exists. Even Orthodox jews do not believe in heaven or hell, and your religion is a branch off Judaism, then catholocism. The original religion doesn't believe in a personal creator god.
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>>683322202
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did Thor nail Jesus to the cross with his hammer?
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>>683322202
god is ded
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>>683323722
You posted >>683322811 two minutes after >>683322564 you expect us to believe that?
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>>683336896
I've been thinking about starting an online dating profile and showing a pic of my fat gut and micropenis. Are these good life choices?
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why didn't god make all boobs big? why? WHY GOD DAMMIT?
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>>683336987
Hurray for polytheists
Hindus can even just accept Jesus as another god too. It's sort of silly, but at least they're ready for a pluralistic society, unlike Islam and Christianity.
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Barbers exist why is there still people with long hair. Cops exist, still murders. Librarys exist - still dumbasses. Shit happens in the world. Faith in Jesus is your sorry asses salvation. Give props for op keeping his cool.
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>>683337436
thats my line
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>>683337436
>god is ded

Would imply that he was ever alive to begin with
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>>683337618
Wtf are librarys
Dumbass
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>>683322202
What makes your religion better than all the other thousands of religions out there?
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>>683336461
>How can this maximize happiness among humans and animals?
By stopping bigger acts of
>murder,genocide and slavery
>>683336515
Those that weren't manipulated by the devil
>>683336541
>>683336630
?
>>683336699
You don't have to. But don't come to me and complain if you are in hell.
>>683336954
billions of children live a long life because of god
>>683337061
you should start by reading the bible and talking to different priests in your town.
>>683337269
>There isn't a shred of evidence to support that a heaven or hell exists
Do you want to risk it?
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secular morality > christian morality
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>>683337269
Jesus Christ who was jew created Christianity.
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>>683337618
>Faith in Jesus is your sorry asses salvation

ahhh, the technique of scape goating. Jesus spends a bad weekend, and never went to hell to pay, he's alive and just fine. I see.
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>>683337843
do you want to risk believing in the wrong god
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>There isn't a shred of evidence to support that a heaven or hell exists
>Do you want to risk it?
sure, same as i will risk not reposting about some ghost girl that will kill me in seven days if i dont repost her picture to 4 different facebook friends
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>>683337818
Only this one can save you from the eternal flames of hell.
>>683337871
There is no such thing as 'secular morality'. It is derived from christian morrality.
>>683338056
No, that's why I believe in the right one.
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>>683337843
>How can this maximize happiness among humans and animals?
By stopping bigger acts of
>murder,genocide and slavery


But, he's not stopping it now with ISIS. They don't even slow down, yet christians are sure that god exists, and he's on their side.

Are you sure you're worshipping the right god? 1.7 billion Muslims can't be wrong, 1 billion Hindus can't be wrong. 300 Million Buddhists can't necessarily be wrong.
1.2 Billion catholics that worship mother mary could not possibly be wrong could they?
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>>683337985
hell being crucified for a day isn't even a 4/10 punishment
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>>683322202
Hey OP, would you be offended if I showed you my tattoo of the seven deadly sins?
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>>683338216
yes there is secular morality, it comes from the ancient atheist Greeks
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>>683338216

Morality is older than Christianity though.
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>>683337985
He descended into hell,the third day he rose again from the dead.
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>>683337843
>billions of children live a long life because of god

Which god? How can we know they're even praying to the right one?

>There isn't a shred of evidence to support that a heaven or hell exists
Do you want to risk it?

I'd say just by the ratios of other religions in the world, you're probably praying to the wrong god. It's only about a 1:7 chance yours is correct, all things being equal (like evidence) Are you sure you want to risk it?
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hes a pretty weak god if he has to sacrifice himself to save a bunch of people, why not just makes us all go to heaven anyway, if that's his goal that is?
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>>683337918
Yes, but even orthodox jews do not believe in heaven or hell, or a personal god.

Where is heaven?
Where is hell?
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tfw Odin is the true god
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>>683338814
ODIIIIIN!!!
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>>683322202
Do you believe the bible is literally true? (adam and eve, tower of babel, etc.)
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>>683338451
Like I said, a bad weekend. There are people that suffer torture for weeks then death follows. If the scriptures are correct, jesus didn't even have it that bad.

Why all the obsession with human sacrifice? What kind of father would sacrifice his son? Why do people think this is a good idea on the part of god or Abraham, or anyone?

Can you not see how repulsive the bible is?
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>>683336954
why does God necessarily have to make a perfect world?
youre saying that just because God doesnt do something he cant exist
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>>683338659
Its a gift. His goal is too see who will follow him. Its your choice which is another gift. And he suffered and died on the cross because he loved you that much.
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>>683338814
Skeggǫld!!
Skálmǫld!!
Skildir ro Klofnir!!!
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>>683337269
For the very reason Christianity split off is because they believed something different than the Jews, in the bible there are plenty of examples of the Jews rejecting prophets and the word of God
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>>683338216
>>683338216
If Jebus was a jew why are you not a jew? Why are you not following God's son steps?
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Why are you on /b/
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>>683339083
"hey i love my children, better hurt myself so i can let them into my house" wheres the fucking logic in that
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>>683322202
According to the bible, how many people raised from the dead?

Do you not believe this trespasses on science, such as physiology? These facts we can count on to remain constant about the nature of humans, animals and the nature of death and rigor mortis?
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>>683338708
Christianity is not a jewish religion. It is different Jesus made that clear how are you not getting that. Its not even based on it. Idk where your getting that.
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>>683339002
just because the flying spaghetti monster is hiding from us doesn't mean hes real
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>>683339198
What caused a difference in belief? all evidence being equal, and all evidence that points to a supernatural being is zero.
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>>683322202
its funny,, the next time u go to the hospital to get something fixed just tell the doctor u dont need help cuz u have god. he is there for u.


ooh wait i forgot.. god and angels and shit only exists outside the hospital.
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>>683338428
greeks werent athiest dumbass
polytheistic dipshit
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>>683338965
Because he loved you.
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why cant science proof the existence of God? is it perhaps because he isn't real?
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>>683339229
Its public domain.
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>>683339392
Protestant christianity came from catholocism, which broke away from Judaism, just like Islam. They're all abrahamic religions. All but the jews have stuck with magical thinking.

Mormons believe in all the crazy things that christians believe in, and a whole nother set of crazy beliefs
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There is substantial proof that many other religions are real, as well as agnosticism and atheism. Whos to say they aren't real as well? What if all religions exist, yet only those who believe in said religion will gain access to its splendors? such as heaven or purgatory?
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>>683339240
because people needed to sacrifice animals to cleanse themselves of sin, Jesus sacrificed himself so that no more of those sacrifices had to be made as well as other things made easier for people to enter Heaven
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>>683339570
no but many Greeks and Romans (Epicurus and Marcus Aurelius) were Atheist and gave us the basis for secular morality
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>>683338297
>They don't even slow down
They do, because of God's help. By the end of the year, they will be gone.
>X billion Y can't be wrong
100 trillion flys can't be wrong, eat shit.
>>683338394
Not if it helps you to avoid them.
>>683338428
Yep. And where do you think did they got it from?
>>683338436
no. History is brutal af.
>>683338592
>by the ratios of other religions in the world, you're probably praying to the wrong god
see above
>>683338945
You either believe in everything that is in the book, or you're not a Christian.
>>683339225
He showed them how and why they were wrong
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>>683339848
why do you have to sacrifice anything to cleanse yourself from sin?
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>>683339847
>proof of agnostic and atheist "religion"
you fucking what mate? I hope you're being retarded on purpose.
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>>683339880

History is also moral as fuck.

Wars going on =/= Morality not existing

Morality outdates christianity, this is a fact.
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>>683339880
Hate to say it OP, but we commit them everyday
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>>683339439
Jesus happened nigga
said some shit them jew priest guys didnt like
shit was fucked up man
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>>683339404
never said god or fsm does/doesnt exist, you just made a shit argument lol
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>>683340072
Who is 'we'??
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>>683339539
did you know there are fucking hospitals where they just pray
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>>683339585
How can we know that he loves me? I want to believe there is a powerful creator god, but there simply isn't any evidence to support his existence.

Futhermore, the fact that he created gay people and gay animals, then suddenly hates them makes him sound capricious.

There is plenty of evidence to suggest how capricious and cruel the god of abraham is in the old testament.

The countless celebrations of cruelty in the old testament should be enough to turn an intelligent person away.
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>>683339651
the big bang cannot be scientifically proven either (not advocating for either but dont be a dipshit)
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>>683339880
Morality existed in other religions as well. Shinto budism for example
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>>683333333
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>>683339847
agnosticism isnt a "real religion" its just doubt or not caring
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>>683339880
>100 trillion flys can't be wrong, eat shit.

This is not an argument that proves that your god is superior to all the others. The fact that many people worship a said deity is often used as proof of its existance.

Do you offer any proof of your particular god's existence?
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>>683339853
o shit i cant wikipedia as fast as you can :P
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>>683339999
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>You either believe in everything that is in the book, or you're not a Christian.
so rabbits chew their own cud then? (Leviticus 11:3–6)
so the earth is flat then? (Genesis 11:1-9)
so women who wear mixed fabrics are witches? (Deuteronomy 18:9–12)
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>>683340447
Addon for my anon


Excluding the bible.
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>>683340353
cosmic background radiation bro
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>>683340004
or else you wouldnt be able to stand in the presence of God with all your sin or something like that idk maybe op can clarify
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>>683340202
You. Me. Anon above me. Anon below me. Unknowingly we all commit these sins every day.
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>>683340094
>Jesus happened nigga

How can we know this? What proof do you offer of the power of god?

If god is good, then how can he watch with indifference as 9 million children die around the world each year in misery and agony? Think of the parents of these children, many of which believe in your god.

How can you hover around such a crass god?
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>>683340491
its fine bro
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Are you really the beast? How did the kiddie porn trial go?
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>>683340675
so i have to kill something for god to accept me?
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>>683322202
WHO WOULD WIN IN A FIGHT
two jesus' or jesus with four arms and robot legs?
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>>683340215
you don't seem to have the whole picture, i would say talk to a christian but you might end up talking to one of those mormonfolk or a crazy baptist
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>>683340423
Now that we know morality deals with issues of human happiness, well being and health, we can safely disregard the bible as a source of ethics and morals.

Safely disregarding the bible's rules for happiness is scant praise for it.
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>>683340672
suggests doesnt prove and why cant god cause a big bang bro
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>>683340202
Do you not commit sins anymore op?
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>>683322202
I'm sure there are lots of Christian Bale fans out there. How did you like his performance in Empire of the Sun?
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>>683340858
I have the whole picture; it's why I don't believe in any creator deity. Teaching people to hate others for no other reason that your imaginary god says it's bad, is not ethically right.
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>>683340724
hes not indifferent, he loves all but fucking niggers do shit and people get shot and die and /b/ and whatever
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>>683340957
or that Allah did it, or fsm, or that it just happened
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>>683322202
when you stuff your face with a doughnut every 5 minutes do you at least remember to save some crumbs for the homeless people who probably rummage through your trashcan for the fat pickings?
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>>683340818
no not anymore read the bible
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Why is there 270 posts on anything Christian?
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requesting timestamp from OP
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>>683340212
And they work better than mainstream hospitals (on average), proving my point.
>>683340510
It doesn't say that the earth is flat.
>>683340830
two jesus'
>>683340695
tru
>>683341202
not an argument
>>683341250
because they subconsciously know it will help them in their afterlife, even if they make fun of me & my /b/rothers here.
>>683341316
wait a sec
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>>683341057
have you read the entirety of the bible like some athiests do to argue against christians? have you read books on both sides of the spectrum? have you visited scholars or read their works on the matters? i do not believe you have the full picture quite yet. then again noone does but the closer you come, the higher likelyhood for you to understand. also dont be biased? theres no harm in trying out a mainstream religion (except radical shit)
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>>683341204
why was it ever a requirement that i would have to kill something so God accepts me?
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Why should I feel bad that Jesus died for my sins when he knew he was the son of God and wasn't REALLY going to die?
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>>683341200
so dont rely purely on science is what im saying
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>>683340215
Old teatiment is old testiment, not for us in the present. The new testiment is what your wanting. If your gonna take everything too literatly and out of contex then this shouldnt bother you. He dont hate gay people. He hates homosexual acts of sex, but not hating you for how you were born. Even scientist are backing down from the whole non creator thought. They even see carbondating as false. Since you know recently there are rocks that give off gas that are not to still exist today but they do. All that there is in the Holy Bible is to prepare you for today.
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ITS FUCKING B8
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>>683322202
Why did you delete your YouTube channel?
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>>683341434
it implys the earth is flat, what about the others?
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>>683341537
its been far more productive then religion
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>>683341434
>And they work better than mainstream hospitals (on average), proving my point.
can you give evidence?
and why can god not use and guide surgeons to do his work?
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>>683341434
how would two jesus' win exactly? explain how you came to this conclusion please?
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>>683340724
Shroud of Tora.
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>>683341458
more like so you dont incinerate or something
also times were different back then, war, slavery, sacrifice, etc was acceptable back then thats why jesus came to change it with changing times and cultures
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>>683341434
Are you proud to be a christian OP?
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Christians or any other religion for that example have not met their burden of proof, none of their holy books have any authority as they contain many error that are in direct conflict with the reality that we are experiencing, they have many false, nonfactual and immoral standpoints that are obsolete and simply not true.
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>>683341605
It is about the four 'corners' of the earth (north,west,south,east - go figure)
The other ones are correct, not literally, but kinda.
>>683341595
Too many trolls
>>683341719
I can go act like you guys and say
>HURR what if science is wrong??
>>683341725
>why can god not use and guide surgeons to do his work?
he always does.
>>683341897
yep. And thankful.
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>>683322202
What do you think of the LGBT community?
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>>683324292
Gluttony is not allowed in the book either faggot
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>>683341719
i didnt say throw it out the fucking window lol i said dont purely rely on it but certainly take it into account
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>>683341871
so God would punish me for eternity for not giving him a blood sacrifice?
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>>683326915
I just have to point out that not even the old time Catholic church believed in the young earth theory. That's quite a new theory and there is plenty of scientific evidence to support it. It's almost entirely emotional arguments for the young earth ridiculousness.
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Why is Christianity so unforgiving of other religions? If god tells us to love eachother, then why do the protestants, the catholics, and whateverelse hate eachother? Take hitler for example. Killing jews because he believed they were evil. Just like the muslims now, and the French, Roman, And Spanish catholics hundreds of years ago. Why do different religions hate, when their deitys tell them to love? I need to understand.
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>>683342220
>yep. And thankful

Hate to break it to you OP but pride is a sin.
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Where did god come from since everything has a beginning and an end and has his end already come
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>>683342220
will you see 40 ?
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